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A
B
B
We
are
vol,
we
are
your
volunteer
representatives
appointed
by
the
county
council
person
or
county
executive
and
entrusted
to
monitor
the
renovations
and
additions
to
our
baltimore
county,
historic
resources,
the
lpc
reviews
and
approves
nominations
to
the
baltimore
county.
Preliminary
landmarks
list
comments
on
national
register
nominations
and
reviews
all
exterior
alterations
within
county
historic
districts
and
is
charged
with
evaluating
baltimore
county
historic
tax
credit
applications
with
the
commission.
Please
introduce
the
commissioners,
please
introduce
themselves
by
name
and
count
county
council
district,
our
represent
representation.
A
F
Lily
mandruff
district,
one.
B
B
B
This
is
the
accepted
national
standard
for
historic
preservation
projects,
our
own
baltimore
county,
historic
preservation,
design
guidelines,
directly
reference
and
incorporate
the
secretary
of
interior
standards
for
rehabilitation.
We
have
important
preservation
issues
to
discuss
debate
at
each
meeting.
If
you
would
like
to
make
comments,
please
limit
your
comments
to
the
specific
application
or
proposal
proposal
submission
being
reviewed.
B
B
As
commissioners,
we
serve
on
the
commission
due
to
our
expertise,
interest
and
passion
for
historic
buildings
and
places,
and
we
review
the
submissions
based
solely
on
their
merit.
While
we
may
disagree
in
discussion
and
voting,
we
continue
to
be
a
collegial
body
that
respects
each
other
personally
and
professionally
with
the
staff.
Please
provide
us
with
our
virtual
meeting
reminders.
A
Yes,
thank
you.
First,
if
you
are
on
as
a
participant
and
would
like
to
offer
comments,
there's
a
couple
ways
to
do
so.
You
can
use
the
chat
feature
and
send
your
comments
to
the
host
or
to
everyone.
You
could
use
your
raise
hand
button
to
signify
that
you
would
like
to
speak
or
when
your
project
is
up
for
review.
If
you've
been
in
communication
with
staff,
we
will
unmute
you
when,
when
appropriate.
A
B
Thank
you
for
the
first
order
of
business
is
to
review
the
minutes
from
last
month's
meeting.
Do
I
have
a
a
motion
for
approval
for
the
minutes
of
last
month.
C
B
Any
do
I
have
a
second.
B
Thank
you
any
comments,
discussion,
corrections,
etc.
On
the
meeting
minutes,
yeah.
C
So
I
do
on
agenda
item
seven
at
the.
I
guess
the
bottom
of
that
page
six.
I
think
it
is
it's
just
awkwardly
worded
the
that
last
sentence.
Miss
otta
mamadov
explained
that
she
had
purchased
the
home
in
january
2022
and
was
flipped
it.
I
think
my
understanding
was
that
she
bought
it
with
the
intention
of
flipping
it.
A
B
Any
other
corrections
hearing
none
is
anyone
opposed
to
the
to
accepting
the
minutes.
A
All
right,
thank
you
and
before
we
move
on,
I
just
wanted
to
note
that
there
are
no
changes
to
the
agenda
as
published
last
week.
We
we
skipped
number
one
no
big
deal
but
just
want
to
let
everyone
know.
J
J
And
john
is
now
online
so
and
if
you
want
to
relinquish
your
chair
duties
to
him,
we
can
move
on
with
our
consent
items
all
right.
A
Perfect,
I
will
introduce
the
consent
agenda
items
first
up.
We
have
agenda
item
number
four.
This
is
the
moncton
hotel,
it's
the
otters,
hollow
property
properties,
llc
property
at
1900,
moncton
road
in
moncton.
This
is
a
contributing
structure
in
the
moncton
county,
historic
district
final
landmark
number
35
and
mip
number
ba116.
A
The
proposal
is
the
replacement
and
relocation
of
a
deteriorated
six-foot
wooden
privacy
fence.
Staff's
recommendation
is
to
vote
to
issue
a
certificate
of
appropriateness,
citing
baltimore,
county,
historic
design,
guidelines,
expenses
and
landscape,
page
4
and
county
code
section
327405
agenda
item
number
5
is
the
bear
property
at
4607
prospect
avenue
in
glendon.
This
is
a
non-contributing
structure
in
the
glendon
county,
historic
district.
The
proposal
is
the
addition
of
one
window
on
the
right
elevation
to
serve
as
an
additional
egress
to
meet
code.
A
Next,
we
have
agenda
item
number
9,
the
sobel
property
at
4704
butler
road
in
glendon.
This
is
a
non-contributing
structure
in
the
glendon
county,
historic
district.
The
proposals,
the
installation
of
wooden
fencing
along
the
rear
property
line
and
to
the
left
of
an
existing
detached
garage
and
the
in-kind
replacement
of
two
picket
gates,
staff's
recommendation
is
to
vote
to
issue
a
certificate
of
appropriateness,
citing
baltimore,
county,
historic
design,
guidelines,
fences
and
landscape.
Page
four
and
county
code,
section
327-405.
K
Thank
you,
taylor
and
let
me
apologize
to
everybody
again
for
my
technical
difficulties.
I'm
sorry,
I'm
I'm
joining
you
all
late!
Thank
you,
ed
for
capably
filling
in
so
we
have
before
us
the
consent
agenda
and
the
questions
or
discussion
motion
we'd
love
to
have
that.
K
F
F
I
guess,
if
it's
not
just
making
sure
that
it,
it
meets
egress
requirements
as
far
as
floor
to
sill
height
of
window.
Otherwise
we,
I
would
think
we
would
typically
do
match
the
head
heights,
not
the
sill
heights,
so
just
as
a
question
the
window
and
the
possibility
of
doing
a
casement
window
to
match
some
of
the
others,
so
that
it's
the
same
size
as
these
double
hungs.
A
So
the
whole
point
of
this
window
is
to
meet
egress.
The
a
building
inspector
was
out
there
a
couple
of
weeks
ago
and
determined
that
the
edition,
as
currently
constructed
and
approved
by
the
lpc,
did
not
meet
code.
It
sounds
like
what
we
want
to
do
is
pull
that
item
from
the
consent
agenda
so
that
it
can
be
discussed
further.
A
F
Okay,
can
we
so
that's
my
motion
to
remove
it
from
the
agenda
and
approve
the
others?
Okay,.
K
All
in
favor
do
we
need
to
do
a
can.
We
do
a
voice
vote
taylor
for
this
yeah.
K
A
Well,
lily's
version
actually
covered
both
it
covered
the
removal
of
five
and
the
approval
of
the
rest.
A
Good,
so
we
will
move
on
and
that's
actually
that
will
now
be
up
for
discussion.
So
moving
on
agenda
item
number
five,
the
bear
property
addition
of
one
window
on
the
right
elevation
for
some
background
in
fall
of
2018
staff
was
alerted
that
the
property
owner
4607
prospect
avenue
had
done
significant
work
without
lpc
approval
and
or
the
proper
building
permits
over
the
past
three
and
a
half
years
most
of
the
code
violations
and
lpc
issues
have
been
addressed.
A
The
technical
committee
found
the
addition
to
be
compatible
with
the
guidelines
in
the
structure
and
recommended
approval.
As
completed
on
march
14
2019
at
the
normally
scheduled
lpc
meeting,
the
commission
voted
to
approve
the
construction
on
february
10,
2022,
baltimore,
county
building
inspections
visited
the
property
for
the
final
inspection
and
to
officially
close
out
the
code
violation
and
found
that
the
addition
as
constructed
did
not
meet
code
as
it
does
not
have
appropriate
egress
directified
the
issue.
The
homeowner
must
install
a
new
window
on
the
right
elevation.
A
The
window
is
proposed
to
be
a
six
over
six
thirty
five
and
a
half
inch
by
fifty
nine
and
a
half
inch
double
hung
vinyl
window
to
match
the
windows
on
the
rest
of
the
home.
A
rough
mock-up
of
the
location
of
the
window
is
provided
in
the
meeting
materials
and
in
a
february
22nd
email
to
staff.
The
homeowner
provided
the
following
narrative
of
the
location.
We
would
like
to
come
in
three
feet
from
the
front
corner.
A
We
tried
to
match
the
distance
on
the
other
side
of
the
house
with
how
far
that
window
is
on
the
garage
which
is
two
feet
in,
but
the
bedroom
has
a
cathedral
ceiling.
So
we
need
to
allow
for
space
on
how
tall
the
window
needs
to
be
for
egress.
We
want
the
side
window
to
be
the
same
height
from
the
ground
as
the
other
window
with
the
bottom
of
the
window.
K
Thank
you,
taylor,
so
so
lily.
Do
you
have
a
specific
recommendation
that
we
might
add
into
emotion
to
them.
F
So
maybe
I
was
unclear,
but
it
seemed
that
the
window
that
is
being
proposed
is
taller
than
the
existing
front
elevation
windows,
and
my
question
was
whether
the
a
consideration
was
made
to
have
a
six
or
a.
I
guess,
12
light
casement,
instead
of
a
larger
double
hung,
and
it
seemed
that
the
the
sill
height
was
based
on
just
matching
the
existing.
But
typically
we
match
the
the
the
wall
header.
So
I'm
just
curious
what
you
know
the
relationship
between
the
windows.
C
A
J
I
thought
it
was
the
same
window
for
the
one
that's
on
this
side
of
the
garage
that
they
put
in
when
they
remove
that
garage
bay.
Okay.
I
Can
we
just
stipulate
that
the
head
heights
align.
B
I
Yeah,
we'll
just
let's
do
that,
let's
just
say
a
line
proposed
window
head
with
existing
window
heads.
B
B
F
Casement
but
it's
on
the
other
side,
and
maybe
they
don't
want
to
put
two
different
windows
at
the
within
the
same
room,
which
makes
sense
caitlyn.
I
don't
think
it's
the
same
window
height,
because
otherwise
the
front
windows
would
act
as
the
escape.
K
F
Yes,
yes,
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
to
approve
the
double
hung
window
as
proposed
aligning
the
head
heights
with
the
front
windows.
K
Thank
you
one.
Second,
a
second
okay,
and
I
assume
we
need
to
do
a
vote
by
person
by
person,
taylor.
E
A
Yep,
I
was
taking
notes
chris,
yes,
ed.
D
D
E
D
E
D
A
A
A
During
the
meeting,
the
commission
raised
additional
concerns
and
offered
additional
recommendations,
including
recommending
that
the
addition
be
inset
recommending
that
the
drawings
be
redone,
as
they
did
not
make
sense,
exploring
the
option
of
doing
a
crawl
space
and
reviewing
the
recommendations
offered
by
the
lutherville
advisory
committee
in
their
september
7th
letter
to
staff
opposing
the
project.
Ultimately,
the
homeowner
stated
he
was
okay
with
the
commission's
feedback
and
that
he
would
resubmit
new
drawings
addressing
the
information.
A
The
proposal
has
now
been
reworked.
The
addition
is
still
proposed
to
be
20
foot
long,
one
story
and
off
the
rear
of
the
home.
The
addition
has
been
inset
six
inches
from
the
right
facade.
The
upper
half
of
the
addition
is
proposed
to
be
vertical
party,
hearty
plank
board
and
batten,
siding
to
differentiate
the
addition
from
the
dwelling.
The
lower
half
is
proposed
to
be
cedar,
shakes
shingles
to
match
the
existing
home
and
tie
the
addition
in
with
the
home
below
the
cedar
shape
will
be
wooden.
Lattice
degrade.
A
The
windows
are
proposed
to
be
trim
line,
one
over
one
wood
windows
painted
blue
to
match
the
windows
and
doors
on
the
rest
of
the
home.
The
rear
door
is
proposed
to
be
a
trim
line
wooden
full
light,
exterior
door
also
painted
blue
to
match
the
windows
and
doors.
The
roof
is
still
proposed
to
be
a
horizon
metal
roof
in
polar
gray
to
match
the
existing
second
story.
Bay
window,
roofs
and
the
gutters
are
proposed
to
be
metal
to
exit
the
edition.
A
rear,
landing
and
steps
to
grade
are
proposed.
A
F
A
A
As
a
note,
the
lutherville
advisory
committee
did
submit
a
letter
of
support
for
this
project,
which
was
shared
with
you
all
last
week.
Staff's
recommendation
is
to
vote
to
issue
a
certificate
of
appropriateness,
studying
baltimore,
county,
historic
design,
guidelines,
additions
and
info
pages.
Two
through
four
and
county
code,
section
327-405
and
we
do
have
the
homeowner
on
mr
michael
deluca,.
M
E
A
Thank
you,
chris.
I
A
B
D
E
A
E
K
A
Agenda
item
number:
seven:
the
walmeyer
property
at
206,
west
seminary
avenue
in
lutherville.
This
is
a
contributing
structure
in
the
lutherville
county,
historic
district
myth
number
ba
343.
The
proposal
is
the
rebuild
of
a
demolished
garage
following
a
february
10
2022
lpc
decision
for
code
enforcement,
correction
notice,
cb2100502.
A
206
west
seminary
avenue
is
a
contributing
structure
in
the
lutherville
county,
historic
district.
The
main
house
is
a
shingled
american
four
square
style
home.
With
colonial
revival,
details
constructed
around
1910..
Last
month,
the
property
owner's
representatives
came
before
the
commission
seeking
approval
for
the
expos-facto
demolition
of
a
contributing
detached
garage
on
the
property.
The
commission
voted
not
to
approve
the
demolition
as
completed
and
required
the
property
owner
to
submit
plans
for
rebuilding
the
structure
by
april
11
2022..
The
property
owners
have
now
submitted
the
application
for
the
rebuild.
A
As
a
note,
the
property
is
currently
pending,
sale
and
set
to
close
march
31st
or
possibly
april
15th.
The
potential
buyers
requested
that
the
date
be
pushed
back,
but
they
are
aware
of
the
active
code
enforcement
case
and
have
been
in
contact
with
staff
multiple
times.
A
The
rebuilt
garage
is
proposed
to
be
12
foot
2
inches
by
17
foot,
1
inches,
we'll
refer
to
that.
As
the
mean
garage
with
an
18
foot
2
inch
by
nine
foot,
nine
inch
lean
to
rear
addition.
This
is
consistent
with
measurement
staff,
determined
based
off
of
aerial
photos
on
county
gis
software
and
the
arcmap
measure
distance
tool.
Staff
found
the
garage
should
be
approximately
those
those
measurements.
A
The
main
garage
is
proposed
to
be
five
and
a
half
by
five
and
a
half
inch
exposed
face,
cedar,
shake
shingles
painted
to
match
the
home
dimensions
for
the
shakes
were
pulled
from
the
existing
home
and
a
photo
of
the
measurements
is
included
on
the
elevation
drawings.
The
garage
is
proposed
to
have
an
eight
foot
wide
painted
white
bead
board
center
panel
over
plywood
swing
doors
on
the
south
elevation
facing
west
seminary
avenue.
A
The
main
garage
is
proposed
to
have
an
asphalt,
shingle
roof
which
matches
the
roof
on
the
garage
when
it
was
demolished
in
july
of
2021.,
the
east
and
west
elevations
are
proposed
to
have
one
cedar
board
window
casing
with
a
glass
window.
The
rear
addition
will
also
be
five
and
a
half
by
five
and
a
half
inch
exposed
face
cedar
shake
shingles
painted
to
match
the
home
with
an
asphalt,
shingle
roof.
A
The
west
elevation
is
proposed
to
have
painted
white
eight
foot
six
inch,
two
by
four
wood
panel,
sliding
doors,
the
east
and
the
east
and
north
rear
elevations
are
each
proposed
to
have
one
window
with
window
trim
and
glass
for
the
historic
review
application.
The
structure
is
proposed
to
be
located
in
the
previously
existing
spot
and
we'll
use
the
remaining
foundation
and
slab
overall
staff
is
accepting
of
the
structure
as
proposed.
A
The
structure
looks
like
the
original
garage
and
rare
edition
matches
the
photos
on
file
and
uses
the
same
materials
as
on
the
structure
when
it
is
demolished.
As
a
note,
letters
from
the
lutherville
advisory
committee,
charlie
davis,
who
lives
behind
the
property
and
marianne
wittelsberger,
the
previous
property
owner,
were
submitted
and
received.
Those
were
shared
with
you
all
yesterday
and
today
those
letters
came
in
after
staff
did
our
review.
A
So
it's
new
information
to
us
as
well
staff's
recommendation
is
to
vote
to
issue
a
certificate
of
appropriateness,
citing
baltimore,
county,
historic
design,
guidelines,
fences
and
landscape
pages,
one
and
five
and
county
code,
section
327,
405
and
327
403,
and
we
do
have
their
team
online.
So
if
you
guys
have
any
questions
for
them,
mr
sanders,
mr
brezza
and
mr
wirick,
you
are
all
unmuted.
E
K
You,
gentlemen,
would
like
to
add
to
the
application.
L
Great
guys,
hello,
my
name
is
tim
sanders
sanders
designs,
project
architect,
who
is
on
a
here.
The
rest
of
the
team
is
dr
potter,
who
is
the
owner's
executive?
L
We
have
glenda
sanders
sanders,
design,
partner,
brandon,
weirich
project,
captain
savannah
blakely,
cad
tech,
scott
brisa
attorney
and
bill
castle.
The
realtor.
L
I
think
he
was
but
anyway
good
evening.
Thank
you
for
having
us
on
this
this
evening
and
I'd
like
to
revisit
the
last
meeting
that
we
had
or
that
I
that
I
viewed
on
the
when
you
were
talking
about
this
and
taylor.
You
brought
off
the
fact
that
this
was
I'm
sorry.
L
L
Yes,
yes,
taylor,
taylor.
You
noted
that
the
style
of
architecture
is
four
square
shingled
american
style,
four
square.
Coming
from
the
fact
that
the
floor
plans
has
four
equal
rooms
in
each
corner
of
the
house,
is
it
derived
from
the
prairie
style
of
architecture
which
emphasized
horizontality
and
simplicity?
L
The
elements
like
flat,
roofs,
flat
planes,
I'd
like
to
revisit
the
conversation
of
not
reconstructing
the
shed
in
the
back?
I
think
the
shed
violates
all
practical
disciplines
as
far
as
the
code,
and
so
you
know
you
could
you
could
buy
this
house
sears
roebuck
catalog.
L
L
All
those
principles,
so
I
would
like
to
open
that
up
and
oh
also,
I
I
failed
to
mention
where
we
are.
As
a
team
dietz
survey
has
been
commissioned.
They
are
going
to
be
doing
the
survey
on
march
17th,
jack
wotel
is
the
structural
engineer
and
I
have
the
project
out
to
four
contractors
to
price
they're
they're,
pending
they're
waiting
for
the
decision
of
this
meeting.
Based
on
what
I
was
just
saying,
so
I
would
like
to
revisit
that
issue.
If
you
don't
mind,
taylor.
K
A
That
would
be
the
commission's
decision.
If
you
all
tim,
I'm
gonna
tim,
I'm
gonna
meet
you
just
because
there
was
some
feedback
on
me.
A
That
would
be
up
to
the
commission.
If
the
commission
was
comfortable
not
with
the
lean
to
addition
not
being
rebuilt,
then
you
could
still
issue
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
that
work.
The
one
thing
I
will
say
is
that
obviously,
elevation
drawings
of
the
rear
of
the
garage
would
need
to
be
submitted,
since
it
would
be
different,
since
it
would
not
include
the
need
to
edition,
but
ultimately
it's
the
commission's
decision
on.
If
that
needs
to
be
rebuilt,.
C
K
I
We
did
do
that.
I
I
do
support
what
mr
sanders
has
to
say.
This
has
all
appearances
of
something
that
a
homeowner
built
at
some
later
point
in
time
after
the
original
car
barn
was
built.
So
I
don't.
I
don't
think
that
this
is
less
good
without
the
shed
piece
of
it.
L
Can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
okay,
yeah,
you
have
a
photograph
when
this
shed
was
demoed
and
you
can
see
the
band
boards
were
applied
right
over
the
shingle
shingles
in
the
back.
I
I
would
bet
that
this
did
not
have
a
permit.
I
don't
know
if
you
all
reviewed
this
in
the
in
the
history,
but
this
violates
all
the
principles
of
foursquare
architecture
which
emphasize
simplicity,
horizontality.
L
So
I
I
know
you
voted
the
last
time,
but
we're
here
now
again
to
vote.
You
know
we
had
when
I
was
given
the
notice
to
proceed.
I
had
72
hours
to
get
this
project
into
you
so
as
to
be
at
this
meeting
after
living
with
this
monstrosity.
F
L
It's
not
because
of
economics,
it's
purely
architecture,
and
I
think
that
the
neighbors
would
appreciate
not
having
this
monstrosity
in
you
know
in
their
backyards,.
K
Commissioners,
any
other
remarks
or
comments.
I
I
L
K
Are
we
comfortable
with
out
seeing
a
technical
drawing
of
the
back.
L
Will
mimic
the
side,
the
windows
that
are
on
the
side?
I
think
it's.
What
is
it
it's
18
by
one
foot,
eight
by
one
for
eight.
B
Do
we
have
any
concerns
with
the
fact
that
this
has
been
fairly
contentious
with
the
neighbors
and
we've
accepted
letters
from
all
of
from
lots
of
neighbors
and
community
associations,
and
we're
we're
sort
of
part
of
our
input
has
been
their
approval
of
the
plans
as
drawn?
Do
we
have
any
concern
that
we're
now
changing
that
for
the
for
the
res
for
the
neighbors
and
community
association.
H
H
H
C
Exactly
when
it
was
added,
but
it
is
part
of
the
history
of
this
property.
K
And
so
that
would
include
a
new
letter
from
the
neighborhood
association
mr
sanders,
since
they
approved
the
full
project,
but
they
have
not
given
their
approval
to
the
to
the
reduced
project
that
you're
suggesting.
L
K
Yes,
I
understand
when
you
were
saying
that
that
solves
a
separate
problem
for
you,
that's
not
part
of
our
our
purview
right.
M
K
A
Do
if
you
the
option
with
that,
would
be
that
either
they
could
receive
approval
from
the
lutherville
advisory
committee,
and
then
staff
could
approve
it
administratively
or
you
could
deny
the
application
before
you
with
the
understanding
that
they
need
to
seek
approval
before
the
lutherville
advisory
committee
and
then
and
then
come
back
before
you
all
in
april.
K
K
G
Yeah
this
is
glenda.
I
would
like
that
opportunity.
If
we
could,
I
would
like
for
the
owner
to
be
able
to
make
that
decision.
The.
G
As
you
all
know,
the
owner
right
now
has
been
fairly
poor
health
and
he
has
a
a
dr
bonner
who
is
representing
him
and,
and
so
I
would
like
to
have
you
have
to
let
them
make
that
call
dr
potter,
I'm
sorry,
I
know
tim's
heart
is
in
the
architecture
and
he
wants
it
to
look
and
be
beautiful,
but
they
might
be
in
a
financial
situation
where
they
may
say.
Let's
just
do
it,
we
need
to
move
forward
on
this
project.
G
So
if
we
can
have
this
approved,
if
we
do
this,
as
is
that
would
be
great
if
they
decide
as
a
team
that
no
we're
not
then
we'll
know,
we
need
to
go
through
the
next
steps
again,
and
we
can
inform
you
probably
within
a
week
of
that
decision
from
the
owner.
K
You
need
to
approach
the
community
association
and
tell
them
that
you
would
like
to
rethink
your
proposal
and
see
what
they
say.
Okay,.
L
M
L
K
L
Okay,
that's
great
yeah!
I
will
discuss
this
with
dr
potter
and
scott
brisa
tomorrow
morning
and
that
that's
great,
if
you
could
send
to
me
and
and
then
let
them
say
now
tim
just
let
it
go.
But
again
it's
it's.
The
style
is
which
violates
me.
Did
you
guys
ever
review
this?
Do
you
recall
having
a
submittal
of
this
no
yeah,
so
it
was
built
without
a
permit.
B
M
K
It's
a
little
off
the
off
the
subject.
That's.
C
C
What
can
can
we?
There
were
some
items
I
wanted
to
discuss
about
how
this
was
proposed.
I
mean
I
do
have
a
question
about
the
windows
that
the
the
drawings
don't
show
any
pains.
They
just
show
an
opening
and
you
do
we
need
to
specify
that
I
believe
those
were
six
pane.
You
know
windows.
L
L
D
I
K
Yeah,
okay,
so
so
chris,
would
you
accept
that,
as
an
amendment
to
your
proposal
that
the
windows
be
what
was
it
tv
six
six
pages
there.
C
F
I
have
some
questions
about
the
materials
in
general,
just
the
the
rafter
exposed
rafters,
whether
or
not
they're
going
to
be
cedar
and
just
the
construction
of
this
whole
thing,
whether
or
not
it's
replicating
the
existing.
Only
the
existing
construction
or
if
there
are
any
changes.
M
M
If
these,
if
cedar,
is
the
preferred
wood
choice,
we
can
amend
our
our
construction
to
include
cedar
rafters.
D
D
Why
don't
you
why
don't
you
make
them
pressure
tree
suddenly,
yellow
upon
it.
D
D
I
would
solve
a
concern.
People
had
with
its
durability.
L
Yeah
great
okay
yeah
we
will.
We
will
replicate
that
they're
they're
one
by
twelves
on
their
on
the
sides
right.
So
we
intend
to
replicate
that.
K
So
our
proposal,
then,
with
the
other
suggestions
chris,
would
be
amendments
for
the
six
main
window
three
over
three
and
for
materials
that
more
closely
represent
the
original
structure
set
of
fair
supplements.
I
Oh,
I
motioned
that
we
approved
the
drawings
as
submitted
with
the
edits
that
they
used
three
over
three
windows
or
replicate
the
original
windows
and
that
the
outriggers,
the
visible
component
of
the
rafter,
be
made
of
cedar.
I
don't
really
care
what's
what
it's
made
out
of
on
the
inside,
but
the
part
that
we
could
see
on
the
outside
needs
to
be
cedar.
M
K
K
C
A
If,
if
you
guys
choose
not
to
do
the
lean
to
edition
yes,
the
commission
is
requesting
that
you
have
that
signed
off
by
the
lutherville
advisory
committee
and
the
deadline
for
the
next
lpc
meeting
is
march
31st.
The
next
meeting
of
the
lpc
is
april
14th
and
I'll.
Send
you,
the
community
contacts
information
tomorrow.
L
Be
an
yeah
I
need
to
counsel
with
dr
potter
and
scott
breeze
tomorrow.
I
A
E
K
A
Right
agenda
item
number
eight
valley,
inn
brooklynville
house:
this
is
the
valley,
improperties
llc
property
at
one,
zero,
five,
zero
one
falls
road
in
timonium.
This
is
final,
landmark
number
198,
mip
number
ba218,
it's
a
contributing
structure
in
the
green
spring
valley,
national
register,
historic
district
and
they're,
proposing
three
work
items
for
the
exterior
of
the
building
located
at
10
501
falls.
Road
is
valley,
inn
a
circa,
1832
tavern,
also
known
as
the
brooklynville
house.
A
Work
item
one
involves
the
request
to
replace
the
existing
three-tab
asphalt,
shingle
roof
on
the
historic
slope,
sections
of
the
structure,
with
certainty
landmark
pro
fiberglass
shingles
in
the
color
colonial
state
slate
for
the
historic
review
application
the
roof
is
leaking
in
multiple
spots.
Staff
is
accepting
of
this
work
and
recommends
approval
as
proposed
work
item.
2
involves
the
request
for
a
new
19
foot
by
33
foot
gable,
roof
structure
on
the
non-historic
flat
roof
over
the
existing
bar.
A
The
structure
is
proposed
to
have
a
standing,
seam,
metal
roof
and
white
aluminum
spouting
western
red
cedar.
Shingles
are
proposed
for
the
ends.
The
t-111
vertical
cladding
siding
on
this
section
of
the
building
is
proposed
to
be
removed
and
the
structure
and
the
section
of
the
exterior
are
proposed
to
be
clad
with
stained
sheet
or
shingles.
Instead,
all
ex
all
existing
windows
will
be
maintained
and
kept
in
their
place.
No
alterations
are
proposed
to
them.
A
The
purpose
with
the
work
is
to
create
a
new
vaulted
ceiling
over
the
bar
inside
and
to
break
up
the
modern,
long
box.
Look
that
faces
the
north
parking
lot
and
falls
road.
A
set
of
concept
renderings
for
the
project
have
been
included
in
the
meeting
materials.
A
The
baltimore
county,
historic
design
guidelines
state
that
addition
should
be
appropriately
located,
relate
visually
to
the
size,
scale,
massing
and
materials
of
the
historic
structure,
not
destroy
significant
historic
historical,
architectural
materials
and
should
not
imitate
the
historic
structure
in
such
a
way
that
it
is
overall
indistinguishable
from
the
original
fabric
staff
finds
this
project
to
be
appropriate
and
meeting
the
guidelines.
It's
an
improvement
to
the
space
and
breaks
up
the
length
of
the
flat
roof
edition.
Therefore,
staff
recommends
approval
as
proposed
work.
A
Item
number
three
involves
the
request
to
replace
the
three
tab:
asphalt:
shingle
roof
on
the
entry
gable
with
a
standing
seam
metal
roof
in
order
to
tie
in
the
entrance
with
the
new
gable
roof
structure.
Staffs
find
this
proposal
to
be
appropriate
and
recommends.
Approvals
proposed
overall
staff's
recommendation
is
to
vote
to
issue
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
all
three
work
items
all
is
proposed,
citing
baltimore
county
historic
design,
guidelines,
roofs
pages
6
through
10
and
additions
and
info
pages
1
through
4,
as
well
as
county
code
section
327-405.
A
H
Hi
everyone
thank
you
for
taking
your
time
tonight,
I'm
here
to
answer
questions.
If
anybody
has
them,
I
think
it
was
pretty
straightforward
what
we
were
proposing.
The
one
thing
I'd
like,
I
guess.
The
one
thing
I'd
like
to
add
is
that
the
new
gable
structure
would
also
serve
to
act
as
an
equipment
screen.
If
you
are
driving
south
on
falls
road
and
you
look
over
at
this
portion
of
the
building.
Currently,
you
can
see
a
pretty
heavy
amount
of
outside
hvac
units
which
are
located
on
the
flat
roofed
area.
K
Thank
you
in
a
second
steve.
K
I
A
I
K
A
A
It's
finally
marked
number
19
myth
number
ba
636.
The
proposal
is
the
installation
of
memorial
monuments
and
associated
hardscaping
replacement
of
missing
fence
gate
section
and
the
replacement
of
existing
light
poles.
As
a
note,
this
project
would
typically
be
on
the
consent
agenda.
However,
the
property
is
owned
by
baltimore,
county
recreation
and
parks.
So
it's
up
for
discussion.
A
A
It
was
initiated
and
received
maryland
grant
funds
during
the
bicentennial
commemoration
of
the
war
of
1812.
phase,
one
was
successfully
implemented
with
guidance
from
maryland
historical
trust
phase.
Two
is
finishing
up
what
wasn't
completed
during
phase
one
work
item
number
one
is
the
installation
of
hardscaping
for
the
display
of
memorial
monuments,
two
sections
of
gray,
paving
stones
to
match
those
on
site.
A
Each
section
will
be
adjacent
to
the
existing
sidewalk
sections
are
to
be
symmetrically,
placed
and
provide
appropriate
surfaces
for
visitors
to
stand
upon
while
viewing
the
new
memorial
stones,
while
not
blocking
the
main
walkway.
The
installation
of
two
granite
memorial
stones
will
be
engraved
within
with
the
names
of
the
american
soldiers
who
fell
in
the
battle
of
north
point.
The
face
of
the
stones
measure
approximately
36
inches
wide
by
24
inches
tall.
A
The
proposed
design
and
placement
of
the
pavers
complement
the
existing
monument
design.
The
monument
memorial
adds
to
the
interpretive
value
of
the
site
and
staff
recommends
approval,
as
proposed
work.
Item
number
two
is
for
the
installation
of
a
new
gate
structure,
anchored
by
two
new
granite
posts
to
fill
in
an
existing
gap
in
the
park
fence
line.
The
gap
is
at
the
rear
of
the
park
and
with
the
newly
installed
functioning
gate,
it
will
remain
a
necessary
point
of
vehicle,
ingress
and
egress.
The
gate
will
be
constructed
of
steel
and
painted
black.
A
The
design
will
match
the
existing
gate
style
at
the
front
entrance.
The
gate
replicates
what
exists
to
help
secure
the
border
of
the
site
and
staff
recommends.
Approval
is
proposed
finally,
work.
Item.
Number
three
is
for
two
new
pole
mounted
light
fixtures
to
replace
existing
light
poles.
A
third
lighting
element
element
will
light
the
flag
at
the
center
of
the
park.
The
proposed
light
fixture
offers
an
aesthetic
design
to
complement
the
site
and
it's
an
overall
improvement
to
the
existing
light.
Poles.
Therefore,
staff
recommends
approval,
as
proposed
as
a
note.
A
The
application
also
includes
notes
on
plantings.
However,
this
is
outside
of
the
lpc's
purview.
This
project
has
been
reviewed
by
mht
in
compliance
of
state
law.
Due
to
the
project's
grant,
funding
and
mht
found
that
the
project
had
no
negative
impact
to
the
historic
resource.
Staff's
recommendation
is
to
vote
to
issue
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
all
three
work
items
as
proposed,
citing
baltimore
county
historic
design,
guidelines,
fences
in
landscape
pages
3
and
4,
and
county
code
section
32745.
K
A
We
have
mr
david
odell
and
mr
j
doyle
online.
If
you
guys
have
any
questions
for
them.
K
Commissioners,
any
questions,
thoughts,
anything
we
need
to
discuss.
I
think.
D
B
K
B
I
E
I
K
Yes,
yes,
one
further.
A
Item
right,
yes,
one
tax
credit
report
on-
and
this
is
the
wales
property
at
31,
dunkirk,
road
and
rogers
ford.
They
received
emergency
approval
for
the
replacement
of
the
boiler
and
that's.