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A
Crystal
yeah
you're
good
to
go.
Okay!
Thank
you!
So
much
all
right
good
evening,
everyone
and
welcome
to
the
april
21
2022
meeting
of
the
baltimore
county
planning
board.
It
is
now
called
to
order.
I'm
nancy
hafford,
the
chairwoman
and
now
we'll
now
start
our
meeting
with
the
roll
call,
and
when
you
hear
your
name,
please
say
aye.
B
B
C
D
D
I
could
hear
everybody,
but
I
couldn't
I
couldn't
talk.
A
A
A
B
A
A
G
Good
afternoon
madam
chair
and
planning
board
members,
the
land
use
article
in
the
annotated
code
of
maryland
requires
that
the
charter
charter
counties
prepare
the
annual
report
on
growth.
The
report
summarizes
residential
and
non-residential
development
in
baltimore
county
in
2021
and
analyzes.
Whether
the
new
development
is
consistent
with
the
county's
growth
management
policies,
master
plan,
2020
land
use
goals
and
state
smart
growth
principles.
The
report
is
due
to
the
maryland
department
of
planning
by
july
1st
next
slide.
G
In
2021,
there
were
28
development
plans
approved,
including
six
major
16
minors,
four
planned
unit
developments
and
two
limiteds.
The
total
number
of
residential
units
in
those
approved
plans
was
1904,
58
are
single
family
attached,
30
were
multifamily
and
12
percent
were
single.
Family
99
of
those
units
were
proposed
inside
the
erdl
next
slide.
G
In
2021
15
non-residential
development
plans
were
approved
for
commercial,
mixed
use
and
office
uses,
with
a
total
of
one
million.
Four
hundred
and
sixty
thousand
nine
hundred
forty
square
feet
of
space
approved.
Seventy
percent
of
the
approved
square
footage
is
located
inside
the
hurdle.
Next
slide.
G
So
99.69
of
all
non-residential
permits,
permitted
construction
was
situated
within
the
hurdle.
Occupancy
permits
for
non-residential
construction
indicates
that
the
industrial
development
represents
the
largest
use
type
accounting
for
45.58
of
the
total
floor
area
among
new
buildings
in
2021
next
slide.
G
Here's
a
map
that
shows
the
distribution
of
non-residential
occupancy
permits
for
2021.
next
slide
in
in
the
2020-2021
school
year.
The
full-time
enrollments
of
three
elementary
schools
and
three
high
schools
were
at
or
over
150
15
percent
of
their
state-rated
capacity.
The
full-time
enrollment
of
all
middle
schools
was
below
115
of
the
state
rated
capacity.
G
G
The
department
of
public
works
and
transportation
indicated
that
there
were
no
deficiency
deficiencies
in
public
water
known
to
exist
in
2021
for
sewer
sewerage
services.
The
department
of
public
works
has
continued
to
monitor
all
of
the
consumer
relief
point
locations.
In
addition,
public
works
has
projects
still
in
design
that
will
eventually
eliminate
these
areas
of
concern
next
slide.
G
There
are
12,
f
level
intersections
and
one
e
level
intersection
that
was
proposed
in
on
the
2021
basic
services
transportation
map
that
would
control
development.
These
intersections
are
listed
on
this
slide
next
slide
in
2021
14
road
projects
were
constructed
or
extended.
Totaling
one
point
three
miles
in
length:
fifty
percent
were
constructed
inside
the
ertl.
This
tip
table
shows
the
names
of
those
newly
constructed
roads
next
slide.
G
G
B
G
B
G
We
do
inside
the
hurdle.
Let
me
look
that
up.
I
think
it
was
in
that
the
main
report
that
I
sent
to
you.
H
You
know
table
table
18
because
I
was
at
the
same
issue
shows
the
development
capacity
it's
about
a
little
under
11
000
vacant
lots
at
moderate
capacity.
C
Follow.
What
you
want,
I
think,
is
it
becomes
even
more
heightened.
I
think,
in
my
conversations
with
ms
meacham,
before
we're
talking
about
less
than
20
years
to
full
build
out.
C
Unless
we,
you
know,
change
the
hurdle
or
change
some
of
the
other
dynamics,
and
I
think
the
focus
needs
to
then
be
on
what
we
do
within
the
existing
communities.
And
how
do
we
strengthen
them
with
some
different
strategies.
B
B
That
would
allow
us
to
build
a
little
bit
more,
but
I
think
if
you
looked
at
those
11
000
lots,
many
of
them
would
not
be
what
I
would
call
desirable
lots
to
build
on
or
may
not
even
be
able
to
be
built
on
under
current
codes
and
whatnot
so
yeah.
That
would
be.
You
know,
I
think
that
number
smaller
and
it
it
drives
a
bigger
national
problem
that
we
have.
A
C
For
and
madam
chair
you're
correct
about
towson,
but
the
zoning
in
towson
is
different
than
in
other
parts
of
the
county
which,
if
you're
going
to
start
converting
commercial
property
into
residential
or
you
want
to
have
a
mixed
use-
development,
for
instance,
the
current
zoning
really
is
inhibiting
it,
and
one
thing
that
we're
taught
we've
talked
about
a
number
of
times
throughout
the
whole
master
planning
process
is:
do
we
need
to
re-examine
permitted
uses
within
certain
zones?
C
Because,
to
your
point,
you
know
people
often
want
to
either
live
closer
to
their
work
or
they
don't.
They
want
to
live
in
a
mixed
use,
environment
or
we
just
need
to
accommodate
more
residential,
which
is
more
likely
to
be
more
dense
and
not
all
single
family
detached
the
way
we've
seen
most
of
the
county
grow
out.
A
D
I
think
the
migration
is
a
two
and
three
step
approach
as
they
move
away
from
baltimore
city
into
the
county.
Then
the
next
step
is
they
will
move
further
away
from
the
dense
population
to
something
and
where
the
areas
where
housing
is
cheaper
and
land
is
cheaper
and
there's
not
as
many
people.
So
the
next
step
is
they
move
either
pennsylvania
or
harford,
county
or
or
carroll
county,
and
that's
a
natural
movement
of
people
as
one
area
becomes
more
dense.
D
They
move
to
an
area
where
it's
less
dense
and
I
think
that's
a
natural
migration
of
people.
H
H
It's
you
know
this
is
this
is
a
nationwide
problem,
as
they
were
saying,
you
know
which
we're
seeing
this
across
the
country
and-
and
there
are,
I
think,
steps
that
other
jurisdictions
are
taking
to
try
and
address
some
of
this,
without
necessarily
turning
everything
into
a
bunch
of
high-rise
communities.
I
Well,
but
I
think
that
that's
if
we
think
back
to
even
the
last
zoning
cycle
to
our
hearings,
you
know
there
was
a
developer
that
wanted
to
do
apartments
behind
some
of
their
shopping
centers,
which
would
be
mixed
use
and
we
pretty
much
turned
most
of
them
down.
You
know
if
I
hear
1300,
you
know
units
were
approved
last
year
or
had
use
and
occupancy
permits
done,
and
I
think
600
of
those
I
saw
quickly
on
the
screen
and
that's
why
I
still
like
to
have
the
meetings
there.
I
So
I
can
ask
the
questions
again
or
that
the
reports
stay
up
on
the
screen
and
I
can
be
looking
at
them
and
asking
questions
as
I
go
along,
but
600
of
them
are
multi-family.
Well,
that's
not
a
lot
of
units,
guys.
We've
continued
for
the
last
10
years
to
build
three
400
single
family
and
three
four
hundred
townhouses
and
that's
even
with
butt
approvals.
I
I
You
know
700
units
in
white
marsh,
but
that'll
be
built
out
in
two
years
and
I
just
don't
see
a
whole
lot
other
than
you
know
other
than
I
apologize
for
that
other
than
maybe
a
little
bit
on
the
east
side
back
river.
That
kind
of
area
there's
been
some
stuff
there,
but
you
do
have
all
the
wetland
issues
and
all
the
you
know
the
chesapeake
bay
issues
anything
closer
to
the
water
there.
So
there's
not
going
to
be
a
whole
lot
of
development
over
there.
You
know
it
is
a
concern.
I
You
know
people
are
moving
out.
I
will
tell
you:
there's
a
huge
amount
of
future
development
being
looked
at
in
cecil
county.
You
know
I'm
very
involved
with
lifebridge
health.
One
of
our
employees
bought
a
house
out
there
and
I
asked
them
when
I
did
this
settlement.
I
said
why'd
you
buy
all
the
way
out
here.
You
got
to
drive,
you
know
an
hour
and
10
minutes
to
work.
He
said
because
I'm
getting
better
schools
for
my
children
and
I
can
afford
to
buy.
You
know
the
house
that.
I
You
know
is
four
or
five
family
members:
that's
what
it
is.
It
really
comes
down
to
price.
You
know.
Anne
arundel
county
has
pushed
their
townhouse
prices
into
the
550
range,
the
white
marsh
project
that
I'm
talking
about
it's
going
to
start
in
the
450
range.
I
You
know
that's
going
to
now
be
our
affordable
housing
in
baltimore
county
and
if
we
have
become
and
are
a
somewhat
minority
county
here,
you
know
we're
going
to
find
our
problems
with
affordability
here,
whether
it's
city
people
moving
out
to
the
counties
or
whether
it's
just
young
people
trying
to
to
buy
their
first
home.
You
know
at
that
point.
I
You
know
we
have
a
huge,
more
expense
in
the
last
15
or
20
years
of
design
costs.
You
know
we
sat
and
looked
at
a
project
in
in
out
here
in
racers
town
in
glendon,
and
we
told
the
developer
he
had
to
you
know
make
the
back
of
the
house.
Fancy
basically,
is
what
it
came
down
to.
Well,
it's
nice.
I
If
you
want
to
put
that
on
put
the
gingerbread
on
the
back
of
the
house,
but
somebody's
got
to
pay
to
buy
that
gingerbread
and
then
install
it,
so
I
really
do
think
we
have
an
affordability
issue.
You
know
I've
seen
concerns
about
affordable
housing
in
general,
in
our
county,
with
our
consent,
decree
and
other
things
that
you
know
we
just
haven't
been
willing
to
accept
it
yet
throughout
the
county-
and
you
know
that's
when
federal
money
and
state
money
comes
in
to
help
with
that
kind
of
construction.
I
But
if
we're
going
to
turn
it
down
and
not
be
willing
to
approve
it
throughout
the
county,
not
in
one
area
or
two
areas
or
three.
E
I
think
to
nancy's
point:
I
don't
think
we're
taking
nancy's
point
seriously
about
this
about
the
office
space.
I
think
we're
going
to
have
to
be
realistic
about
transitioning
that
office
space
to
residential
space,
I
don't
think
continuing
to
build
out
into
open
space
is,
is
going
to
address
that
problem,
we're
just
postponing
the
inevitable
unless
we
just
want
these
huge
vacancies
in
our
commercial
areas.
E
J
Yes
nancy:
this
is
mr
johnson.
Is
there
any
way
that
we
can
get
some
kind
of
report
as
to
what's
been
built
in
or
what's
vacant
in
the
different
areas
of
the
county,
just
to
see
where,
where
we
are
and
what's
been
built,
what's
vacant.
A
B
I'm
a
big
advocate
of
redoing
some
of
these
commercials,
especially
shopping
centers,
as
I
as
a
banker.
I
know
that
they're
they're
underutilized
and
we
have
the
infrastructure
there,
but
I
I,
as
the
banker
I
just
have
to
get
like
a
statistical
or
a
financial
analysis
around
this,
because
I'm
I'm
very
passionate
about
affordability.
So
if
the
average
household
income
in
baltimore
county
is
slightly
under
a
hundred
thousand
dollars,
the
maximum
mortgage
that
a
person
can
get
is
around
three
and
a
half
times
their
household
income.
B
B
So
what
you're
saying
is
the
average
household
inc?
The
average
person,
not
the
poor
person,
the
average
person
in
baltimore
county-
cannot
afford
to
buy
a
house
baltimore
county
as
an
employer
as
a
member
of
the
community
that
that's
just
acceptable
and
the
only
way
to
do
that
on
a
simple
supply
and
demand
curve
is
to
add
supply.
B
You
know
if
it's
demand
stable,
which,
frankly
it's
gone
down,
because
we
just
don't
have
the
places
to
build.
There's,
not
a
there's,
not
a
lack
of
people
wanting
to
build
houses,
they're,
just
not
houses
available
to
build.
B
I
So
it
might
be
worth
looking
at
a
10-year
plat
of
it
to
show
us
what
it's
been,
because
maybe
we
did
1300
this
year
because
of
the
white
marsh
project,
but
there's
been
an
awful
lot
of
years
that
just
haven't
had
the
density
that
you
would
think
even
over
an
older
county,
you
know
getting
older
as
we
as
we
speak.
You
know
there
really
is
not
a
lot
of
growth
potential
for
the
residential
side
in
our
county.
I'd
like
to
see
that
baby
at
a
future
meeting.
A
I'm
really
quite
fearful
for
some
of
our
shopping
centers
and
I
think
we
need
to
look
at
what
places
have
done
across
the
country
in
converting
them
to
mixed-use
buildings,
because
a
lot
of
stores
are
going
to
be
shutting
down
and
I
think
more,
when
their
leases
are
up.
I
I
think
that
trend
is
going
to
continue.
I
I
I
don't
see,
I
see
them
trading
also,
including
in
baltimore
city.
You
know
the
area
might
be
moving
a
little
bit
in
baltimore
city
over
towards
inner
harbor
and
at
harbor
point,
but
the
other
properties.
You
know
we've
settled
three
or
four
major
properties
in
the
last
month
that
are
being
converted
to
apartments
near
the
old
mechanic
theater.
You
know
301
north
charles
110,
north
charles.
I
mean
a
lot
of
it
there
being
converted
there
and
what
is
it?
I
It's,
affordable,
housing
apartments
that
people
can
afford
either
they're
getting
some
kind
of
grants
from
the
city.
The
city
has
a
program
for
their
apartments
to
lower
the
property
taxes
for
the
developer
for
10
years,
so
that's
helped
make
some
more
affordable.
You
know
things
there.
You
know
I
understand
amazon's
there,
but
10
years
from
now
there
could
be
a
new
amazon
and
a
new
something
else.
I
agree
that
people
are
shopping
online
and
the
packages
get
delivered
to
my
house
7
in
the
morning
11
in
the
afternoon
and
7
o'clock
at
night.
I
They
never
stop
knocking
on
the
door,
but
my
wife
and
family
still
go
to
the
grocery
store
three
or
four
of
them.
They
still,
you
know,
go
to
costco.
They
still
go
to
bj's
amazon's
gonna
build
a
freight
forwarding
place
at
the
old
walmart
knowings
mills.
Well,
you
know
there
still
is
going
to
be
a
retail
presence.
You
know
I'm
seeing
if
anything.
The
only
thing
I'm
seeing
in
shopping
centers
that
tend
to
be
closing
is
more
the
restaurants
and
that's
really
interesting
to
me
because.
I
To
think
we'd
all
like
to
get
back
out
into
restaurants
rather
than
eating
home,
as
we
have
for
the
last
two
years.
You
know
that
might
take
some
more
time
until
you
know
the
this
virus
is
really
contained.
I
tell
people
you
know,
and
I
continue
to
see
howard
and
his
wife
both
just
had
covered
two
weeks
ago.
I
A
I
have
howard-
I
haven't
seen
my
concierge
in
months
because
of
the
boxes
surrounding
him
from
from
amazon,
but
it's
all
good,
all
right
folks
does
anyone
else
have
any.
This
is
wonderful
discussion,
very,
very
good
discussion
and
for
any
of
our
newer
board
members.
Is
there
anything
else,
you'd
like
to
ask
any
questions
or
comments
you'd
like
to
make.
D
The
I
live
about
three
miles
on
the
pennsylvania
line
and
about
three
miles
from
the
harvard
county
line
about
six
miles
from
scott's
person
who
lives
there
in
stuttstown,
and
we
have
several
houses
on
and
around
the
farm
that
we
own
and
we
get
at
least
a
half
a
dozen
calls.
Each
week,
people
wanting
number
one
in
schools.
They
want
to
move
out
for
the
school
and
the
other
is
less
density.
D
They
want
to
get
away
from
all
the
density,
and
we
got
clear
this
constantly
and
land
taxes
are
cheaper
in
york,
county
and
in
other
counties
and
they're.
Just
looking
at
all
the
amenities
of
life
when
they
want
to
move
and
and
the
first
generation
moves
the
farther
away
and
the
second
generation
moves
even
further.
A
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
mcginnis,
and
one
thing
that's
really
come
out
in
this
conversation
tonight
is:
we
all
represent
different
thoughts
and
philosophies
and
experiences,
and
that
really
represents
the
community
that
we
serve.
So
it's
really
good
because
people
all
of
our
our
community
members,
some
want
to
live
in
the
suburbs.
Some
want
to
live
in
an
urban
environment
they're
all
different.
So
that's
why
this
is
a
wonderful,
wonderful
board
and
I'm
very
grateful
to
be
able
to
serve
on
this
board.
Thank
you.
H
A
A
C
Madam
chair,
if
I
may
just
to
compliment
jen
and
her
team
and
in
previous
years,
quichal
had
done
these
annual
growth
reports
and
so
with
qui,
leaving
jen
and
chris
and
miles
and
austin
just
jumped
in
feet.
First
and
really
did
a
terrific
job
and
really
appreciate
not
only
having
them
on
staff.
But
I
think
their
true
assets
for
all
of
you,
as
you
need
more
information.
A
H
B
G
B
K
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Their
march
10
2022
meeting
the
landmarks
preservation
commission
voted
to
issue
seven
certificates
of
appropriateness
for
the
following
properties:
the
moncton
hotel,
located
at
1900
moncton
road,
the
bayer
property,
located
at
4607
prospect
avenue
in
glendon
the
deluca
property
located
at
212
west
seminary
avenue
in
lutherville.
K
K
At
their
april
14
2022
meeting
the
landmarks
preservation
commission
voted
to
issue
six
certificates
of
appropriateness
for
the
following
properties:
the
taylor
property
located
at
703
woodland,
drive
and
relay
the
pot
spring
farm
house
located
at
2201
hot
spring
road
and
timonium
the
plano
property
located
at
320
morris
avenue
in
lutherville
the
keras
property
located
at
504
sunbrick
lane
in
sudbury
park,
the
all
fault
back
home
and
property
located
at
1018
windsor
road
in
sudbrook
park
and
the
savage
property
located
at
911
adonai
road
in
fedbrook
park.
And
that
concludes
the
report.
A
F
bill
10-22
zoning
regulations
uses
permitted
in
the
business
major
zone
for
the
purpose
of
permitting
a
class
7
brewery
under
certain
circumstances.
In
the
bm
zone,
provisions
include
the
location
within
the
boundaries
of
the
ruxton
rider
wood,
lake,
rolling
community
plan
area
and
within
a
specific
distance
from
the
falls
road
light
rail
stop
and
to
the
west
of
falls.
Road
bill.
F
6-22
review
of
pud
the
heights
at
hunt
valley
a
resolution
of
the
baltimore
county
council
to
approve
the
review
of
a
proposed
plan
unit
development
in
accordance
with
county
law.
The
site
for
the
pud
is
located
in
the
third
councilmanic
district
and
is
approximately
31.74
plus
or
minus
acres,
zoned
ml
and
rc-6,
and
within
the
hurdle
the
application
was
submitted
by
hv
holdings
llc
and
is
now
eligible
for
county
review.
F
The
county
council
has
identified
an
area
of
land
and
certain
properties
on
the
eastern
side
of
the
800
block
of
bel
air
road
that
has
excellent
redevelopment
potential
and
has
been
added
to
the
boundary
resolution
14-22
amending
the
boundary
of
the
woodlawn
commercial,
revitalization
district,
a
ris,
a
resolution
for
the
purpose
of
amending
the
boundary
of
the
woodlawn
commercial
revitalization
district.
The
county
council
has
identified
an
area
of
land
near
the
intersection
of
interstate
695
and
interstate
70
adjacent
to
the
current
boundaries
of
the
woodlawn
commercial,
revitalization
district.
F
A
Thank
you
so
much
miss
tracy,
and
that
concludes
our
meeting
for
this
evening.
So
if
I
can
get
a
motion,
then
we
will
adjourn
if
there's
no
other
discussion.
If
there's
anything,
someone
would
like
to
talk
about.