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Yes,
we
can
hear
you
clearly
todd.
Thank
you
all
right.
So
first
I'd
like
to
welcome
mr
chris
davis,
who
you
all
can't
see.
I
don't
think
who
is
the
new
staff
person
for
the
baltimore
county
planning
board
miles
has
moved
on
and
chris
is
stepping
into
his
shoes.
So
welcome
mr
davis,
and
we
thank
you
for
providing
support
tonight,
challenge
on
your
very
first
night
as
a
planning
board
support
person.
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Okay
in
the
september
24th
email
you
receive
draft
minutes
of
the
september
17
2020
meeting.
Has
everyone
had
an
opportunity
to
review
the
drafts?
Yes,
we
had
an
opportunity
to
review
minutes.
I
see
head
shaking
nodding
very
good,
any
corrections,
additions
or
modifications
to
the
minutes
of
the
september
17
2020
board
meeting
any
suggestion
changes.
Okay.
If
not,
I
will
entertain
a
motion
to
accept
the
minutes
that
circulated.
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Okay,
mr
chairman,
there's
one
item
which
is
resolution
94-20,
which
is
for
the
maryland
agricultural
land
preservation
foundation,
and
it
is
a
resolution
to
approve
certain
applications
for
the
sale
of
development
rights
easements
on
property
located
on
farms
that
meet
the
state
criteria
for
application.
In
accordance
with
agricultural
articles,
section
2-509
of
the
annotated
code
of
maryland.
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So
I
will
welcome
everyone.
This
is
a
public
hearing
that
I
am
now
going
to
call
to
order.
My
name
is
scott
phillips
and
I'm
the
chairman
of
the
baltimore
county
planning
board.
Tonight.
The
planning
board
will
conduct
this
public
hearing
for
two
items.
First,
the
board
will
hear
testimony
on
the
baltimore
county,
water
and
sewage
plan.
2020
tri-annual
review
immediately
following
the
board,
will
hear
testimony
on
the
proposed
definition
of
dormitories
to
the
baltimore
county
zoning
regulations.
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Ms
wolfson,
mr
mcginnis,
here
mr
heckman
here
mr
heinel,
mr
erlo
I'll,
take
that
as
a
yes,
mr
perlow,
mr
warren,
yes,
mr
bear
very
good.
So
let
us
begin
at
the
boards
september
17
20
meetings,
miss
aaron
tennis
trial
and
miss
lisa
eichholt
from
department
of
public
works,
introduced,
the
water
supply
and
sewage
master
plan.
2020
tri-annual
review,
miss
mckenna,
strial
and
miss.
I
cults
are
here
to
further
present
the
2020
triannual
review
to
the
board
after
ms
mckenna,
strile
and
miss
icoats
have
finished
their
presentation.
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The
chapter
also
includes
information
about
the
round
9a
population
forecast
to
2045,
which
are
the
basis
for
the
projections
for
the
water
and
sewer
planning.
In
this
document,
the
physical
maps
remain
unchanged
from
the
2017
trinial
review,
but
the
population
forecast
density,
land
use,
zoning
and
institutional
maps
have
all
been
updated.
This
go
around
next
slide.
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Now
we
get
into
the
meat
of
the
document,
so
chapter
three
gets
into
the
water
supply
plan
and
it
doesn't
change
a
whole
lot
between
reviews.
The
three
main
just
to
give
you
a
brief
background.
There's
three
main
sources
of
water
in
the
county
areas
outside
the
urtle
are
generally
supplied
by
groundwater
for
individual
private
wells
and
small
community
wealth
systems,
which
are
mostly
private,
with
two
exceptions
noted
above
being
in
phoenix
and
sunnybrook.
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And
the
largest
source
of
water
is
provided
by
the
baltimore
metropolitan
water
system
or
the
public
system.
As
it's
commonly
known,
the
water
system
is
owned,
operated
and
maintained
by
baltimore
city,
but
the
county
is
responsible
for
the
rehabilitation
of
pipelines
and
water
storage
tanks
within
the
county
and
manages
the
engineering
and
construction
of
some
major
facilities
within
the
county.
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The
system
is
shared
with
the
neighboring
counties
of
howard,
anne
arundel,
hartford
and
carroll,
and,
of
course,
baltimore
city,
baltimore,
howard
and
anne
arundel.
County
all
have
agreements
with
the
city
to
purchase
filtered
water,
while
hartford
and
carroll
county
have
agreements
to
purchase
raw
water.
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The
main
components
of
the
water
system
there's
three
raw
water
reservoirs,
including
pretty
boring
loch
raven
and
liberty,
which
are
all
owned
by
the
city.
We
also
have
access
to
the
susquehanna
river
as
an
alternative
for
raw
water
during
periods
of
drought,
and
that
was
last
used
in
the
90s.
I
believe
water
flows
by
gravity
in
large
tunnels
and
pipelines
from
the
raw
water
sources
to
one
of
three
water
treatment
plants
in
the
city,
missouri
montebello
one
and
two
in
ashburton.
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So
the
past
several
training
reviews
have
shown
that
water
usage
in
the
system
is
pretty
consistent
and
even
trending
downwards.
Slightly
with
population
increases
back
in
2011,
the
county
was
using
89
million
gallons
from
the
baltimore
system
and,
most
recently
in
2019
fiscal
report,
we
were
down
to
79
million
gallons,
but
overall,
it's
been
pretty
consistent.
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This
is
due
partly
from
a
loss
of
industry
in
the
county
residential
use,
not
picking
up
as
much
as
anticipated
and
consumers
being
more
aware
of
water
conservation
and
using
low
flow
shower
heads
and
toilets,
based
on
the
historical
data,
the
2003
central
system
report,
empowerment
and
safe
yield
data
engineering
judgment
and
that
the
service
area
is
generally
located
within
the
urtle.
We
believe
that
the
existing
facilities
should
be
able
to
support
future
growth
through
2045.
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The
last
big
chapter
in
the
trinial
is
about
the
sewage
plan
and
baltimore
county
is
comprised
of
septic
systems
and
the
baltimore
county,
sanitary
sewer
system
or
the
public
sewer
system.
As
it's
more
commonly
known,
septic
systems
are
predominantly
located
outside
of
the
urtle,
with
some
exceptions.
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The
main
components
of
the
sewage
system,
sanitary
sewer
system
is
comprised
of
120
pumping
stations
and
23
different
sewer
sheds.
A
discussion
of
each
sewer
shed,
including
its
location,
major
components,
pump
flow,
existing
conditions
and
proposed
projects
are
included
in
this
chapter
within
each
sewer
shed.
The
county
is
responsible
for
the
maintenance
and
rehabilitation
of
over
2
000
miles
of
gravity,
sewer
main
and
over
160
miles
of
pressure.
Sewer
pipes
next
slide.
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Table
9a
for
the
back
river
wastewater
treatment,
plant
and
9b
for
the
patapsco
wastewater
treatment
plant
depict
the
expected
flows
based
on
the
forecast
and
population
projections.
The
flows
are
expected
to
remain
relatively
consistent
based
on
historical
flow
data
and
both
treatment
plants
are
expected
to
support
future
growth
through
2045..
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Next
slide
just
to
kind
of
wrap
it
up.
The
last
two
portions
of
the
triennial
are
the
maps
and
appendices
the
maps
with
the
water
supply
and
sewage
plan
designations,
follow
the
aforementioned
chapters
and
they
cover
the
entire
county
and
reflect
changes
resulting
from
any
emergency
or
annual
cycle
amendments,
and,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
the
appendices
are
in
part
two
of
the
document.
The
content
remains
unchanged,
but
I
did
add
some
divider
pages
this
year
between
the
various
documents
just
to
make
them
a
little
bit
easier
to
navigate
next
slide.
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At
the
board
september
17
2020
meeting
mr
joseph
fraker
from
the
department
of
planning
presented
an
overview
of
a
follow-up
staff
report
on
the
definition
for
dormitories
to
the
baltimore
county
zoning
regulations.
Mr
fracker
is
here
to
further
present
on
the
proposed
definition
of
dormitories
to
the
board.
After
mr
fracker
has
finished
his
presentation.
I
will
call
on
those
who
have
registered
to
testify
on
this
topic.
Please
join
me
in
welcoming
mr.
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The
resolution
cited
expanding
enrollment
at
towson
university
and
other
nearby
colleges,
resulting
in
an
increase
in
demand
for
housing.
As
justification
for
the
request
to
this
board,
the
council
requested
the
planning
board
report
back
its
recommendations
in
the
previous
report
to
the
planning
board
that
was
directly
in
response
to
that
resolution.
Staff
recommended
that
a
definition
for
dormitory
be
added
to
the
baltimore
county
zoning
regulations.
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By
reading
the
report
in
front
of
you
and
attending
this
meeting,
the
planning
board
will
learn
how
baltimore
county
currently
regulates
dormitories
examine
how
other
jurisdictions
regulate
dormitories
in
student
housing
and
get
a
sense
for
what
was
discussed
in
the
stakeholder
sessions
and
how
the
stakeholders
came
to
their
recommendations.
Next
slide.
Please.
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In
addition,
we
had
multiple
planning
staff
members
in
attendance.
It
should
be
noted
that
student
housing
developers
and
students
from
nearby
colleges
were
not
able
to
join
the
sessions,
despite
efforts
to
obtain
those
voices.
Next
slide,
please
to
maximize
participation
staff
held
webex
meetings
on
wednesday
evenings
for
approximately
one
hour
each.
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Staff
introduced
a
list
of
priority
themes
for
the
stakeholders
to
consider
like
neighborhood
compatibility,
property
management
and
parking
through
the
initial
discussion,
stakeholders,
added
accessibility,
affordability
and
conversion
of
ground
level.
Retail
space
to
the
list,
security
and
having
convenient,
pickup
and
drop-off
locations
were
also
mentioned,
but
not
included
as
specific
themes.
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All
of
these
locations
have
large
student
populations
with
students
living
in
off-campus
buildings.
Some,
including
auburn
and
cobb
county,
have
developed
precise
regulations
for
regulating
privately
owned
and
operated.
Off-Campus
student
housing,
while
arlington
and
college
park
have
not
madison,
has
strict
regulations
for
dormitories,
but
only
for
buildings,
organized
and
owned
by
principal
institutions.
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Overall,
what
the
case
studies
show
is
that
there
is
not
one
way
to
regulate
off-campus
housing
and
that,
while
dormitory
is
defined
in
many
of
the
jurisdictions,
it
is
not
the
principal
term
for
regulating
more
modern
off-campus
student
housing
buildings
in
many
of
the
jurisdictions
like
arlington
and
college
park.
Off-Campus
housing
is
regulated
as
just
multi-family
development,
potentially
limiting
the
ability
of
these
areas
to
regulate
the
use.
Next
slide.
Please.
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After
looking
at
these
variations
staff
examined
cobb
county
more
closely
for
how
it
regulates
purpose-built
student
housing,
cobb
county
is
similar
to
baltimore
county
in
some
respects,
in
that
it
is
located.
Just
outside
of
atlanta
has
a
population
of
just
under
800
000
as
a
large
public
university
and
kennesaw
state
university,
as
well
as
several
downtown
centers,
similar
to
towson.
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Overall,
it
is
suburban
character.
This
slide
shows
how
cobb
county
defines
this
use.
They
have
additional
supplemental
regulations
that
address
many
of
the
attribute
cultures
mentioned
as
being
important
these
these
included
in
appendix
one
of
these.
These
are
included
in
appendix
one
of
this
report.
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Overall,
though,
design
and
neighborhood
context
were
important
with
things
like
lighting
and
noise
abatement
required
location
and
proximity
requirements,
requirements
were
also
important,
which
include
ensuring
buildings,
have
principal
access
to
arterial
or
major
collective
areas,
and
that
buildings
are
located
in
regional
activity,
centers,
which
is
similar
to
a
mixed
use.
District
or
business
district
auburn
regulates
this
use
similar
to
top
county.
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Has
locational
requirements
and
designate
which
zoning
districts
private
dormitories
are
permitted
in?
They
also
subject
all
private
dormitories
to
special
development
standards,
although
there
are
not
dormitory
specific
requirements
with
both
of
these
jurisdictions,
the
definitions
give
regulators
a
more
precise
way
to
regulate
the
specific
use
next
slide.
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Please,
as
you
can
see,
the
current
regulations
are
fairly
permissive
regarding
locations
where
dormitories
are
allowed
at
present
time.
The
orange
areas
on
the
map
are
where
dormitories
are
allowed
by
special
exception
and
the
green
areas
in
the
more
highly
traveled
business
sections
of
the
county
allowed
voluntary
spy
right
next
slide.
Please.
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That
the
stakeholder
is
focused
on
what
falls
under
the
purpose-built
student
housing
category,
even
though
the
exact
term
at
that
time
had
not
been
chosen
the
net.
The
definition
on
this
slide
is
the
one
under
recommendation
three
on
page
10
in
the
report
and
a
staff's
recommendation
based
on
our
interpretation
of
the
stakeholder
sessions
and
the
needs
of
baltimore
county.
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By
creating
a
new
definition
for
purpose-built
student
housing
zones
will
need
to
be
identified
for
where
this
use
should
be
permitted.
The
stakeholders
discussed
this
in
detail
in
the
sessions
overall.
They
did
not
like
the
idea
of
having
strict
locational
requirements
like
putting
a
radius
around
an
institution
like
what
was
done
in
madison
wisconsin,
where
they
put
a
quarter
mile
radius
requirement
from
the
principal
institution
for
these
buildings,
but
they
wanted
to
make
sure
they
were
in
accessible
locations
in
the
county.
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It
is
our
intention
that
this
report
can
help
provide
the
planning
board
and
the
county
council
with
an
understanding
of
these
important
stakeholder
sessions
and
the
conclusions
they
come
to
next
slide.
Please-
and
thank
you
for
your
time
and
we
can
now
take
any
questions
that
you
might
have.
Thank
you
very
much.
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So
as
we
and
we
could
discuss
that
this
evening,
where
we
can
discuss
it
together
on
the
15th
after
everybody
had
an
opportunity
to
digest
what
mr
fraker
has
presented
to
us
and
to
read
the
report,
but
we
have
a
number
of
options.
We
can
forward
the
report
to
the
council
just
as
it
is,
or
we
can
ask
the
planning
board
to
add
additional
clarification
as
to
the
desires
of
the
planning
board.
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This
is
pete,
yes,
that's
that's!
Basically
it
I
mean
it's
almost
dormitory
becomes
an
accessory
used
to
the
institutional
uses
that
are
on
those
campuses.
So
that's
what
we're
clarifying
and
and
that's
why
we
specifically
identified
zoning
classifications
where
the
purposely
built
units
would
be
versus
you
know
where
dormitories
otherwise
identify
throughout
the
zoning
regulations.
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That's
what
the
purpose-built
student
housing
definition
is
for,
that
that
would
apply
to
private
investors,
owning
their
own
land
or
releasing
space
and
then
building
a
a
dorm.
Well,
it
wouldn't
be
called
a
dorm,
it
would
be
student
housing,
and
in
that
case
I
I
don't
know
if
we've
still,
we've
cleared
up
the
retail
aspect,
the
desire
was
that
in
in
a
more
business
oriented
location,
we
would
want
retail
on
the
first
floor,
to
fit
in
with
the
where,
where
the
building
is.
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A
It
so
so
I
think
the
answer
once
again,
if
you
read
the
purpose-built
student
housing,
the
the
answer
is
maybe
right:
you
have
to
go
through
a
process
to
to
develop
purpose-built
student
housing
right.
It
is
clear
that
the
desire
is
to
maintain
retail.
On
the
first
floor,
however,
there
is
a
method
for
you
to
have
approved
something
different
than
that.
That's
that's
the
way
I
read
it.
D
I'm
looking
at
it
and
I
hope
I'm
looking
at
the
right
version.
It's
that
1017
2020
and
on
page
10
under
purpose
built
student
housing.
It
says
if
located
in
a
commercial
zoning
district
the
ground
floor
shall
include
retail
and
or
coffee
space.
If
the
majority
of
the
rest
of
the
street
has
ground
level
office,
rent
retail.
H
A
L
I
guess
because
kathy
so
on
that
same
page
regulation,
four
says
all
billings
shall
have
a
transit
stop.
Does
that
mean
at
the
building
specifically
or
within
some
approximate
I
mean
if
you
had
two
buildings
each
other.
Would
each
of
them
have
to
have
a
stop?
I'm
not
quite
sure
how
to
translate
that.
K
Well,
I
think
that
might
be
up
to
the
county
council
if
they
choose
to
act
or
to
act
on
this.
This
document
they
you
know
they
may
choose
to
not
do
anything,
but
they
could
put
the
the
wording
in
as
far
as
what
that
transit
stop
means.
You
know,
I
think
it
would
be
person
perfectly
reasonable
to
have
one
transit
stop
if
it's
next
to
two
different
buildings.
You
know,
but
I
think
that's
a
detail
that
the
council
would
have
to
write
the
the
legislation
for.
B
B
K
That
that
stop
at
multiple
apartment,
building
private
apartment
buildings,
not
just
their
their
own
and
the
intent,
was
to
reduce
the
need
for
the
tenants
to
own
cars,
and
if
they
could,
you
know,
you
know,
use
bikes
or
hop
on
a
shuttle
bus
of
some
sort.
You
know
the
the
towson
circulator
bus
is
coming
maybe
later
next
year.
So
you
know
we
would
rather
not
have
a
huge
influx
of
cars.
L
C
A
A
B
M
I
H
I
C
M
A
A
L
A
H
H
As
we
said
earlier,
dormitories
are
not
currently
defined,
so
this
task
originally
was
kind
of
set
out
to
define
dormitories,
but
that
that
was
as
a
result
of
that
previous
staff
report,
which
was
a
result
of
the
council
resolution
that
original
council
resolution
was
not
not
entirely
clear
with
its
language.
So
this
was
our
interpretation
of
where
to
go
and
part
of
this
report.
A
A
Further
defined,
we
have
further
defined
what
purpose-built
student
housing
is,
which
is
the
area
for
private
development,
which
would
then
suggest,
if
you
are
a
private
developer
and
right
now
we
did
not.
We
don't
have
anything
in
the
code
that
describes
purpose-built
student
housing,
and
so
there
is
no,
we
wouldn't
be
restricting
or
reducing
the
opportunity,
we're
redefining
or
we're
defining
the
opportunity.
C
This,
mr
phillips,
I
have
to
disagree
that
it
does,
because
by
special
exception
they
could
build
apartments,
that
students
are
dwelled
in
and
anywhere
inside
the
hurdle,
with
a
special
exception,
and
with
this
they
will
not
be
able
to
do
so.
It
is
not
it
is.
It
is
a
reduction
in
people's
land
rights
that
it
is
what
it
is.
I'm
not
saying
that's
wrong.
I'm.
G
F
F
C
A
K
I'd
like
to
make
one
comment,
please
sure
I
would
just
like
to
thank
mr
fraker
and
also
laurie
haye
for
facilitating
these
sessions
to
discuss
the
dormitories.
I
think
it
went
very
well
and
they
they
really
have
summarized
the
discussion
in
the
this
draft
document
very
well.
So
I
want
to
thank
them.