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A
So
good
evening,
everybody,
I
hope
everybody
is
doing
wonderful.
I
am
going
a
job.
I
am
the
western
sector
planner
from
baltimore
county
department
of
planning-
and
this
is
meeting
number
one
out
of
three
scheduled
meetings
to
discuss
the
liberty,
world
design
guidelines
and
the
drp
area
designation.
A
So
without
further
ado,
let's
review
the
agenda
for
tonight.
A
So
first
step
we'll
go
into
the
introduction.
We
do
have
new
members
today,
so
I
would
like
to
introduce
them
then
we'll
get
into
the
survey
results.
We
have
had
a
open
survey
for
about
10
days,
so
we
will
reveal
the
results
today,
then
we'll
get
into
discussion
on
how
to
you
know,
get
more
specific
design
element.
A
Then
we'll
get
into
meeting
date
proposal
you'll
see
that
the
next
meeting
dates
have
been
changed
or
I'm
asking
to
change
them,
and
I
would
like
to
hear
your
input
and
then
we'll
open
the
flow
to
question.
A
So
the
members
are
kelly
carter
from
liberty.
What
business
association
kelly
are
you
in
today
I
haven't
seen
kelly.
Maybe
she
wasn't
able
to
make
it.
We
also
have
shoelace
super
from
liberty.
What
community
council,
mildred
owen
from
liberty,
manor
community
association,
devon
parks
from
stony,
brook
community
association,
mr
aaron
plemer
from
combined
communities,
advocacy
council,
martin
nathanson
from
northwest
hospital,
justin
rosemore,
arla
properties,
llc
cesar
lee
bedwell,
baltimore,
county
drp
member,
and
we
have
our
members
of
the
liberty,
road,
clean,
safe
and
green
committee.
A
For
new
members,
we
have
five
new
members
that
have
joined
the
committee.
I
will
I
will,
I
will
say
their
name,
and
I
would
ask
them
please
to
introduce
themselves.
I
have
linda
dorsey
walker,
member
of
baltimore,
county
democratic
state,
thankful
committee.
A
B
Hello
good
evening,
everyone,
I'm
linda
dorsey
walker
and
I
remember,
as
she
said,
of
the
baltimore
county
state
central
committee,
six
terms.
I've
now
served
three
of
them
represented
the
tenth
legislative
district
and
three
on
the
11th
district,
and
I
look
forward
to
working
with
each
of
you
and
my
memory
goes
all
the
way
back
to
the
early
days
of
liberty,
road
in
randallstown
having
charrette
meetings
before
there
was
a
current
randallstown
community
center.
So
I'm
looking
forward
to
this
next
phase.
A
A
D
Yes,
good
evening,
everyone
thank
you
for
having
me.
Yes,
my
name
is
danny
blount.
I
am
on
the
baltimore
county,
democratic
state,
central
committee,
district
10..
I've
also
been
a
part
of
the
liberty
west
and
the
udac
committees
that
were
here
in
reynolds
town,
I
would
say
back
in,
I
guess
maybe
2010
2009
and
I'm
just
looking
forward
to
really
trying
to
get
these
things
implemented.
That
was
started
back
at
that
time,
so
looking
forward
to
what
you
guys
are
presenting
to
our
district
once
again.
Thank
you.
Thank.
E
Yes,
good
evening,
everyone,
my
name
is
this-
is
barry
chapman,
I'm
also
a
member
of
the
villanova
community
association.
I've
been
in
the
villa
community
since
1986
and
made
it
my
home,
which
is
a
wonderful
community.
I
I
hope
the
characteristics
of
it
never
changes.
E
F
Well,
good
evening,
again,
thanks
for
having
me
just
to
kind
of
add,
I
live
in
the
paul's
crossing
area
or
campfield
in
sudbury
area,
I've
been
a
county
resident
for
probably
over
over
30
years,
probably
less
than
most
I
enjoy
doing
community
work,
I'm
also
the
photographer
for
the
northwest
voice.
Newspaper
kenneth
brown
publisher
and
I
just
enjoy
doing
doing
what
we
do.
Thank
you
for
having
me.
A
F
A
A
A
A
So
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
go
question
by
question
and
then
we're
gonna
reveal
the
result.
So
the
first
question
that
was
asked
was:
what
is
your
relationship
to
the
liberty
world
focused
area,
so
before
I
get
get
into
the
result,
I
would
like
to
remind
you
about
the
pocket
area,
which
is
the
central
part
of
liberty
world.
It
goes
from
I-695
to
approximately
greens,
lane.
A
A
A
A
Examples
of
what
you
chose.
It
includes
terracotta,
brick,
red
color,
natural
stone
and
warm
thin.
Wood
such
as
tan
and
brown
color.
A
A
The
most
of
the
responses
were
that
they
would
like
to
see
the
which
african-american
culture
of
the
area.
A
So
question
number
seven
included
if
you
were
to
include
an
area
of
liberty,
road
on
a
postcard
which
area
would
that
be
so
we
had.
These
are
the
areas
that
came
in
at
the
top
wendell's
town
stone
wall
and
the
welcome
sign
liberty,
reservoir,
the
life
which
health
and.
B
G
H
A
All
right,
so
I'm
gonna
start
the
postcard
again:
okay,
okay,
so
what
area
would
you
include
in
a
postcard
for
liberty,
road?
These
are
the
the
areas
that
were
included
in
the
responses.
A
Wendell
sounds
stonewall
and
the
welcome
sign
liberty,
reservoir
life,
bridge
health
and
surrounding
areas,
the
areas
between
brain
book
and
green
lane
and
mcdonough
pearlstone
community
and
the
historic
churches.
I'm
still
good.
Everybody
can
hear
me:
okay,
good
yeah,
so
for
question
number
eight,
which
is
the
last
question
that
was
asked
in
the
survey
we
asked:
how
do
you
picture
this
area
in
the
next
20
years?
A
So
most
of
the
responses
were
run
down
if
nothing
is
done,
and
then
vibrant
and.
A
So
I
would
like
to
devote
the
next
30
minutes
into
discussion,
the
first
10
minutes.
I
would
like
to
hear
input
about
specific
architectural
materials
and
colors.
The
following
10
minutes
will
be
dedicated
to
signage
style
and
then
the
last
10
minutes
specific
landscaping
idea.
A
So
I'm
opening
the
floor
to
everybody
and-
and
please
please
share
your
input.
Your
ideas,
suggestion.
I
A
So
the
the
survey
is
closed.
As
of
october
30th,
it
was
just
an
initial
survey
just
to
get
you
know
a
test
of
of
what
the
community
think
of
the
focus
area.
We
will
have
more
detailed
surveys
as
we
go
through
the
study
like,
for
example,
what
we
are
discussing
right
now
about.
I
just
wanted
to
hear
what
the
members
think
about
you
know
specific
materials
and
colors
signage
and
landscaping
that
will
fit
this
area.
B
Yes,
this
is
linda
dorsey
walker.
You
know
I
I
submitted
my
survey.
I
submitted
really
detailed
recommendations
of
what
I
thought
needed
to
be
done.
B
I
don't
know
if
I
can
stay
on
the
call
for
the
full
length,
since
I
have
another
meeting-
that's
going
on
at
this
time,
but
I
share
with
you
also
verbally
some
of
the
things
that
I
thought
were
current
drawbacks,
for
example
on
liberty,
road,
the
length
of
the
area
that
you're
talking
about
there
is
an
unusual
amount
of
overhead
wiring
that
remains
that's
very
unsightly
and
very
dated.
B
It
looks
like
a
throwback
to
the
1950s
and
60s,
whereas
in
the
neighborhood
I
live
in,
there's
no
wiring,
so
obviously
a
decision
was
married
made
to
bury
the
cable.
Why
is
it
that
more
of
the
cable
can't
be
buried
up
and
down
the
length
of
liberty?
Road?
Also,
I
shared
with
you
that
on
one
occasion,
driving
up
liberty,
road,
one
of
those
wires
broke
loose
and
spun
around
wildly,
while
several
cars
were
and
and
the
people
in
those
cars
were
almost
electrocuted.
A
Yes,
miss
linda,
we
did
talked
about
those
overhead
wiring
again,
since
we
are
working
on
the
design
guidelines
for
for
for
future
development.
A
Pt
is
part
of
the
of
the
element,
so
we
can
discuss
terms
of
like
future
development,
whether
you
know
those
why
we
should
be
underground
in
that
you
know
focused
area
because
that's
the
first
part
of
the
study,
so
I'm
writing
down.
I
I
have
put
a
note
over
about
overhead
wiring.
J
Hello,
this
is
sheila
lewis.
Can
you
hear
me.
J
I,
like
the
warm
color
palette,
particularly
the
natural
stone,
and
I
like
that.
I
gravitate
towards
that,
because
there
is
so
much
of
that,
of
course,
in
shieldstone,
and
also
if
you
drive
up
and
down
liberty
road,
you
will
see
like
the
church,
the
church
that
we're
talking
about
at
rolling
liberty
road.
It's
that
you
will
see
several
residential
houses
with
that,
and
even
when
you
go
to
the
intersection
of
liberty
and
milford
mill,
the
walgreens
and
I
think
the
milford
mill
center,
where
the
alco
is.
J
They
have
those
half
walls
with
that
kind
of
stone
feature
and
maybe
by
trying
to
use
that
palette,
not
overly
done,
but
in
a
tasteful
way,
so
that
some
kind
of
cohesiveness
comes
to
the
architecture
of
the
liberty,
road
area.
H
A
Yes
can
maybe
discuss,
because
I
know
like
in
honeygo
70
of
the
develop
of
the
fastad
of
the
fund.
Facade
has
to
be
break,
so
we
can
maybe
discuss
the
percentage
that
needed
to
be
on
the
facade
in
terms
of
natural
stone,
yeah,
okay,
and
would
you
like
to
see
the
natural
stone
michele
only
on
the
front
facade,
I
guess.
J
Well,
I
think
it
would
depend
on
the
the
structure,
for
example,
if
you're
at
the
shopping
center,
where
the
rite
aid
is,
they
have
those
children,
support
and
they're
just
plain,
but
maybe
was
if
they
were
covered
with
that
stone,
it
will
bring
a
little
bit
more
warf
to
the
area
and
another
architectural
feature.
B
I
had
also
brought
that
up
as
well
that
we
should
try
to
well,
especially
since
there's
a
lot
of
properties
that
are
not
fully
occupied
at
this
time.
Let's
try
not
to
build
right
on
up
to
the
street
curb,
but
have
more
setback
and
in
part
of
that
setback
have
like
some
stone
planters
with
large
plants,
and
I
referenced
the
special
program.
B
This
special
initiative
started
about
12
or
15
years
ago
in
chicago,
where
it's
a
ecosystem
program,
where
they've
totally
beautified
the
northern
half
of
chicago,
by
putting
all
these
wonderful
planters
that
they
change
the
plants
and
seasonally
and
they
earn
money
to
buy
new
plants
by
selling
the
fully
developed
plants
back
to
the
members
of
the
communities
that
live
in
those
areas.
So
it's
a
self-sustaining
program
that
has
totally
changed
the
look
of
chicago
from
when
I
went
to
grad
school
there.
A
K
Is
this
india,
I
think
combination,
but
I
do
want
to
also
ask
a
question:
is
the
county
considering
looking
at
environmental
materials
such
you
know,
going
green
an
example
would
be
the
use
of
hemp,
creek.
D
A
I
mean
we're
here
to
discuss
those
options.
If,
if
you
would
like
to
see
those
options
in
the
focus
area,
now
is
the
time
to
to
discuss
those.
K
Yeah,
I
think
it's
important,
I
think
it
could
serve
if
we
were
to
do
it
right,
it
could
serve
as
a
model
for
other
communities
and
like
what
linda
you
know,
suggestion
that
she
had.
You
know
this
eco-friendly
planning
system,
and
you
know
also
it
goes
back
to
one
of
my
concerns
I
raised
before
is
you
know
we'll
do
this
beautification,
but
the
maintenance
of
it
is
so
important
because
you
know
that
it
can
get
overgrown.
Is
the
county
going
to
make
sure
they
maintain
this
stuff
and
keep
it
beautiful.
A
Well
see
this,
this
is
going
to
be
on
private
properties
on
the
shopping
spanners.
If
we're
talking
about,
are
we
still
talking
about
architectural
or
you
have
moved
to
another
topic
to
another
design
element?
Oh
no,
it
doesn't
matter
whatever
yeah
I
mean
for
architecture.
The
property
owner
is
responsible
for
for
maintaining
their
property
landscaping
in
math.
It
depends
whether
it's
on
county
right
of
way
or
if
it's
on
the
on
private
property.
A
B
B
That's
the
area
in
which
the
people
in
chicago
actually
put
these
giant
planters,
and
I
also
had
suggested
because
I
know
I
took
to
the
county
several
months
ago-
a
proposal
that
we
tried
to
do
a
solar
test
pilot
in
the
randallstown
area,
a
special
lighting
that
would
be
self-sustaining
and
other
kinds
of
elements
that
you
would
put
on,
windows
and
and
also
the
street
surface.
That
would
actually
allow
the
county
to
generate
revenues
from
the
the
solar
collectors.
B
That
would
be
part
of
all
of
that,
and
so
I
don't
know
if
you're
open
to
considering
that.
But
I
think
we've
got
to
come
up
with
ways
of
becoming
more
sustainable
communities.
Eco-Friendly
communities
and
the
county
still
has
over
its
head
a
requirement
that
at
least
25
of
its
power
generation
be
cut
back
and
become.
A
A
B
And
having
the
area
be
used
as
a
pilot
for
solar,
renewable
energy
efforts
just
along
that
strip
that
we
were
talking
about-
and
I
had
taken
that
to
the
county
a
while
ago-
and
there
are
some
incubator
programs
that
are
ready
to
testify
with
such
things
in
a
small
contained
area
such
as
that
that
would
save
tremendous
amounts
of
energy
for
just
self-sustaining
street
lights,
surface
smart
surface
on
the
streets
and
also
on
the
window
coverings
as
well,
of
special
glaze
on
the
window.
B
That
would
allow
these
things
to
become
solar
collectors
and
the
county
would
ever
actually
be
able
to
generate
a
new
energy
revenue
source.
So
I
think
we
need
to
be
considering
the
fact
that,
right
now,
braille
sound
has
not
always
had
a
special
image,
but
maybe
if
we
become
the
smart
community,
you
know
the
smart
energy
community
and
build
some
of
these
elements
into
it.
J
J
So,
like
the
natural
stone,
you
see
not
like
that
you
that
has
stood
up
over
time
depending
on
how
it's
used,
but
I
would
be
cautious
about
using
what
I'm
seeing
is
that
sample
for
warm
stained
wood,
because
in
20
years
something
built
like
that
might
look
outdated
and
I
would
rather
have
something
that
would
stand
up
over
the
period
of
time.
A
I
A
That's
true
yes,
but
do
we
still
want
to
see
any
type
of
wood
for
future
development
or
just
brick
and
stone.
D
I
think
we
should
should
keep
all
options
open.
A
L
I'd
like
to
make
a
comment
who's
that
this
is
mildred
owens,
hi,
mildred,
hi,
oh
to
everyone.
I
the
comment
I
had
was
about
the
warm
stained
wood.
A
We
just
we
just
we're
just
talking
about
a
combination
of
colors
and
materials,
not
specifically
throughout
the
whole
focus
area,
but
for
the
for
the
warm
colors.
These
are
the.
This
is
what
was
identified.
A
L
It's
the
reason
why
I
was
asking
because
I
did
see
the
natural
stone
it's
similar
to
the
quarry
lake
and
it
it
really
looks
nice.
Looking
at
this
picture,
if
I
had
seen
this
natural
stone,
I
don't
know
if
I
would
have
selected
that
as
the
best
color,
but
after
seeing
it
in
person
and
going
a
few
times
and
looking
at
it,
I
really
liked
the
look
and
it
it
looked
distinguished
it's
friendly.
L
L
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Any
other
suggestions,
ideas
for
architecture.
I
would
like
to
move
your
assignment.
B
If
you
use
the
natural
stone
highlighted
by
cast
iron
railings
and
fencing
black
cast
iron,
it
looks
really
upscale
and
the
other
thing
is
architecturally
at
owings
mills.
What
is
it
founder,
danielle
here
and
I'll
see
towson
the
special
brick
on
the
on
the
ground
like
a
special
design,
so
there's
like
a
key
intersection
at
points
at
oakwood,
road
and
liberty,
road,
yes
up
to
the
hospital
and
library
and
so
forth.
B
A
Okay,
so
we're
talking
about
design
elements
for
for
the
for
future
development,
and
then
we
are
first
for
now
we
are
only
focusing
on
the
shopping
center.
A
G
We
also
have
some
additional
before
you
move
on
comments
in
the
chat
about
from
danielle
smith,
that
natural
stone
or
the
terra
cotta
brick
will
not
look
outdated
and
from
I
don't
know
if
it's
a
mr
or
mrs
nathan's
to
everyone
down
highlights
from
the
fieldstone
neighborhood.
G
H
H
I
think
I
agree
with
everyone
with
everybody
saying,
but
I
also
feel
that
we
need
to
set
ourselves
apart
from
the
owens
mills,
the
towson,
the
hunt
valley,
whatever
name,
we
need
to
find
common
ground
that
we
can
have
our
own
identity
and
be
different.
We
don't
want
to
look
like
the
other
neighborhoods
or
the
other
shopping
centers.
H
So
what
I'm
looking
at
is
something
that
makes
us
stand
out
and
makes
us
look
different,
so
that
when
people
do
come
to
randallstown
that
they
know
they're
in
randallstown
and
they
know
that
hey
they
haven't
seen
this
before.
Oh,
this
is
really
good.
You
know,
like
somebody
was
saying
earlier,
you
know
inviting-
and
you
know
that
makes
you
want
to
come
and
shop
and
that's
what
I'm
looking
for
in
the
area.
A
C
Hello
hi:
this
is
danielle
smith,
so
I
I
agree,
but
I'm
looking
at
longevity,
so
the
warm
stained
wood
is
beautiful.
It
looks
good
so
with
the
county
come
out
on
periodically
on
a
regular
basis
to
make
sure
the
upkeep.
The
wood
looks
good
if
it
starts
coming
out
if
over
the
years
with
the
weather
damage.
As
far
as
with
snow
and
the
winds,
you
know
you
just
don't
want
something
like
it's
going
to
tear
down,
because
I've
seen
that
in
other
communities
before
and
after
a
while.
C
If
it's
not
maintained,
it
doesn't
look
good
or
even
getting
a
combination
with
the
worn,
warm
stained
wood,
because
it's
beautiful
and
it
would
make
us
stand
out
and
look
a
little
different
from
what
you
see
in
baltimore
county.
But
at
the
same
time
we
have
to
think
about
how
it's
going
to
look
as
far
as
longevity.
How
is
it
going
to
look
over
10
15
20
years,
and
if
it's
going
to
be
maintained,
then
it
shouldn't
be
a
problem.
A
Well,
it
will
be
the
it
will
be
up
to
the
property
owner
to
maintain
their
own
facade,
but
we
do
have
programs
in
baltimore
county
that
helps
with
facade
improvement.
C
So
another
question,
then,
since
you
said
that
if
it's
up
to
the
property
owner,
because
we
all
know
how
that
is
as
homeowner
association
individuals,
would
there
be
any
any
thing
put
on
individuals
as
far
as
if
they
don't
take
care
of
the
property
or
if
they
don't
keep
it
up.
That's
the
only
problem
because
everyone
else
or
every
other
house
or
every
other
building
or
office
or
community
could
look
good.
So
that's
my
only
thing.
A
Yeah
I
mean
we
have
called
enforcement
to
enforce
those.
You
know
if
if
a
property
is
dilapidated
or
like
you
know
like
dangerous
for
the
community,
we
do
have
good
enforcement
and
we
can
fight
you
know
huge
citation,
but
other
than
that
it
would
be
up
to
the
property
property
owner.
L
But
is
is
it
is
this
something
that
you
can
maybe
bring
up
to
see
if,
if
there
is
another
alternative,
because
as
such
as
if
when
they
have
get
a
contract
for
to
become
a
tenant,
that
should
be
part
of
their
contract
to
have
the
beautiful
flowers
in
the
in
the
big
bars
and
and
they
that
should
be
something
that
you
know
should
be
discussed
to
see
if
they
really
want
to
keep
up
the
community
they
have
to
every
every
tenant
has
to
have
one
of
those
big
pots
of
beautiful
flowers
and
maintain
it
or
you
know
that
way
there
that's
already
in
their
contract.
L
L
L
But
when
you
look
at
a
lot
of
the
other
shopping
areas,
you
don't
you
don't
they,
they
evidently
have
someone
that's
doing
this
because
it
seems
as
though
it's
done
for
it.
All
of
it
is
consistent
and
all
of
the
the
nice
clean,
beautiful
plants
and
flowers
of
a
well
kept.
A
Yeah
yeah.
That's
that's!
That's
really
good
good
ideas,
but
I
would
like
to
move
on
to
signage
now
just
to
make
sure
that
we
cover
everything
in
the
next
time
that
we
have
left.
I
would
like
to
open
the
floor
for
signage
discussion
as
part
of
the
survey.
A
62
percent
of
the
participant
says
that
the
signage
in
the
focus
area
is
dated.
Eleven
percent
says
that
it's
out
of
character
and
ten
percent
says
that
it's
overdone.
What
would
you
like?
What
type
of
signage
would
you
like
to
see
in
the
focus
area?
J
This
is
sheila
lewis.
One
thing
I
noticed
about
this
signs
when
we
took
the
tour,
I'm
not
certain.
All
the
signs
are
in
compliance,
some
of
them
seemed
overly
large
and
there
was
a
lot
of
inconsistency,
especially
when
you
came
to
the
shopping
centers.
Sometimes
you
didn't
know
you
were
going
into
a
shopping
center.
You
just
go
with
a
group
of
stores,
and
sometimes
it
was
just
a
group
of
stores,
but
the
signage
on
it
was
so
the
colors
were
so
loud
and
you
know
disjointed,
and
it
was
kind
of
offsetting.
J
So
I
think
that
to
have
some
some
some
guidelines
or
some
specific
guidelines,
of
how
the
sinus
should
be
maintained,
we
taught
the
sizes
whether
it's
going
to
be
illuminated
those
type
of
things.
I
think
there
needs
to
be
some
some
consistency,
because
it's
all
over
the
place
only
right
now.
L
A
You
can
y'all
hear
me,
I'm
trying
nothing.
Somebody
is
not
muted.
L
L
Okay,
but
I
don't
anyway
what
I
was
getting
ready
to
say.
That
was
a
great
idea,
but
in
addition
to
that,
I
like
the
what
I've
seen
in
the
idea
of
when
you
turn
in,
and
you
have
the
island
in
the
turn
in
into
the
the
mall
or
the
shopping
center.
L
Rather,
you
you,
you
see
what's
there
and
then,
and
even
in
addition
to
maybe
liberty
plaza
just
say,
for
example,
you
see
liberty
plaza,
and
then
you
see
the
name
of
the
other
stores
in
the
shopping
center
and
and
in
some
cases
you
have
the
ones
that's
on
the
left
of
the
turn
in
there's
a
right
on
in
front
of
the
street.
There
is
a
list
of
all
of
the
ones
on
the
left
and
then
just
before
you
turn
in
on
your
right.
L
You
see
the
list
of
all
the
ones
on
your
right
of
the
shopping
center
and
it
really
it
really
lets
you
know
what's
there
and
you
can
see
it
real,
good
and
and
plus
the
the
island
when
you
turn
in,
if
you
have
those
beautiful
plants
around
it,
it
it
looks
beautiful
and
you-
and
this
looks
inviting-
and
you
know
like
opening
up
your
arms
to
come
on
in
you
know.
We
have
something
here
you
like
that.
That's
that's
what
my
my
comments
are.
D
One
of
the
questions
that
I
have
is,
I
know,
we're
talking
about
entering
into
shopping
centers,
some
and
some
of
the
businesses
on
liberty,
road,
for
example,
there's
a
muffle
place
just
before
we
get
to
often
in
liberty,
road
and
they
have
like
homemade
signs.
It
really
looks
bad
when
we
start
getting
the
shopping
centers
to
repair
their
signage
and-
and
things
like
that,
are
we
also
looking
at
the
businesses
that
are
on
liberty,
road
that
have
signages
that
are
really
look
bad
and
really
detrimental
to
our
community.
A
Yeah
so
phase
one
is
the
central
part
with
only
shopping
centers.
This
study
will
require
additional
phases
to
you
know
to
cover
the
west
of
liberty,
hood
and
also
look
at
all
the
youth
on
liberty
world.
But
for
this
time
we
are
only
focusing
on
central
part
of
liberty,
world
and
just
shopping
center.
J
I
have
a
question
for
alumna
with
that.
If
there
was
a
code
enforcement
suite
for
the
business
on
liberty,
road,
because
I
mean
if
a
sign
is
out
of
compliance,
it's
out
of
compliance-
I
mean
to
me
the
the
fact
that
we're
trying
to
do
this
and
in
steps
it
might
be
helpful
and
if
there
was
a
coding
suite
to
bring
all
the
signs
down
that
shouldn't
be
there
to
blink
of
compliance.
J
A
M
I'm
thinking
about
the
eight
shopping
centers
within
the
design
that,
within
the
configuration
that
we
have
right
now
about
each
one,
is
different
in
terms
of
size
and
number
of
stores
and
the
one
sign
that
that
really
captures
my
attention,
which
is
rather
attractive,
is
the
one
at
mifra
mill
shopping
center
because
of
the
height
the
color,
the
list,
the
names
of
businesses
delineated
on
that
sign
and
I
think,
among
those
other
shopping
centers
the
one
where
the
library
is
at
writing.
That's
probably
the
largest
one,
with
the
greatest
number
of
stores.
M
So
when
mildred
owens
talked
about
a
sign
that
can
show
to
the
right,
let's
say,
for
example,
external
stores
to
the
left,
xml
stores
that
could
be
a
guideline
for
larger
shopping
centers.
But
I
think,
in
terms
of
height,
we
all
should
probably
consider
height
no
matter
what
the
shopping
center
is
located.
But
then
beyond
the
height
of
it.
That
would
be
the
color
and
the
number
of
stores
and
how
they're
displayed.
But
the
one
at
memphis
mill
shopping
center
is
quite
attractive.
A
And
is
that
the
one
where
alco
is.
M
M
Yeah
but
but
I
think,
in
terms
of
height
you
know,
the
height
is
really
great,
where
it's
not
too
tall,
not
too
short,
and
the
only
other
different
one.
That's
different
from
everybody
else
is
the
one
where
walmart
is
because
walmart
sits
way
back,
but
then
it
has
a
sign
where
the
island
is
at
liberty
road,
so
that
that
makes
it
quite
unique.
A
Yeah-
and
we
also
have
to
keep
in
mind
that
with
signage
height
is
being
regulated
by
baltimore
county
zoning
regulation.
A
A
Okay
yeah,
but
we
can
bring
that
up
in
another
meeting
as
we,
you
know
specifically
focus
on
one
element.
J
I
think
that
signage
was
also
attractive,
and
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
made
us
so
was
that
it
was
built
of
the
same
type
of
materials
as
the
buildings
in
that
shopping
center
was,
and
I
think
that's
might
be
why
it
might
seem
very
attractive
because
it
was
a
cohesiveness
to
that
shopping
center.
A
M
Really
nice
to
reinforce
ms
lewis's
observation.
There
too,
is
right
near
that
sign,
for
the
shopping
center
is,
is
the
third
and
final
of
the
nodes
when
jim
smith
was
got
an
executive,
he
had
a
program
called
renaissance
and
other
communities
and
he
came
to
our
area.
He
went
down
to
lockhart
and
called
that
one
node,
one
up
by
croydon
inside
the
beltway
is
the
second
node
and
the
third
one
is
right
near
wells,
fargo
bank.
But
if
you
look
at
that
building
material,
that's
that
natural
stone
and
miss
lewis.
M
G
Let
me
go
through
the
chat,
real
quick.
Let's
say
there
were
some
comments.
There
was
some
conversation
there,
but
just
for
folks
who
haven't
looked
at
it,
I
think
cicely
commented
back
to
danielle
that
regarding
maintenance,
you
know
trying
to
make
sure
that
we
look
at
alternative
materials
to
wood
for
exterior
that
are
more,
that
hold
up
longer
and
and
require
less
maintenance.
G
G
G
At
this
time
you
know,
there's
no
set
budget,
there's
a
variety
of
options
for
funding
available
or
assistance
from
the
county
or
the
state,
but
you
know
at
this
point:
there's
no,
you
know
kind
of
big
pot
of
money
sitting
out
there
to
hand
over
folks
concurring
that
the
signage
should
have
an
identify,
a
unified
look,
and
I
think
that
is
it
for
the
chat
about
sonnage.
G
A
You
amy
sure
next
10
minutes.
I
would
like
to
talk
about
landscaping,
landscaping,
ideas
for
the
focus
area
83.
I
have
to
say
that
with
the
survey
83
percent
say
that
landscaping
was
inconsistent
and
sparse.
J
One
thing
one
of
my
observations
about
at
the
shopping
centers
was
the
liberty
crossroads
shopping
center.
It
might
be
one
of
the
newer
centers,
but
it's
also
one
of
the
more
attractive
ones,
and
I
think
the
reason
why
is
because
they
have
that
wide
area
of
greenery,
a
grass
between
the
sidewalk
and
the
actual
parking
lots,
and
I
think
the
shopping
centers
that
are
more
attractive
are
ones
that
have
that
10
to
15
feet
of
grass
or
some
type
of
greenery
between
the
sidewalk
and
the
parking
lots.
J
I'm
adding
that
green
natural
texture
to
the
community
enhances
the
the
streetscape
and
also
when
you
get
to
the
parking
lots,
some
of
them
most
of
them
have
no
trees
or
shrubbery
of
anything,
and
they
need
to
be
broken
up
with
more
tree
islands.
That
will
only
also
make
it
attractive.
It
would
make
the
areas
cooler.
J
It
would
be
an
ecological
thing,
because
trees
will
help
to
you,
know
clear
the
air
and
that
kind
of
thing,
and
I
think
it's
really
really
important
to
start
requiring
more
trees
and
tree
islands
and
landscaping
in
the
parking
areas
to
break
up
all
that
asphalt.
Not
just
along
the
edges,
as
we
see
with
so
many
parking
lots.
H
Sheila,
along
that
same
line
that
sister
bond
you
know
it
also
depends.
It
also
helps
to
get
the
right
kind
of
trees,
because
you
don't
want
a
bunch
of
trees
that
you
know
shed
the
for
leaves
and
requires
more
work.
I
guess,
if
you
have
a
bunch
of
leaves,
because
there
are
plenty
of
different
types
of
trees,
that
don't
you
know.
J
Ideas,
one
more
thing.
L
I
have
I
I
wanted.
I
was
talking
and
I
forgot
I
was
muted.
I
just
wanted
to
add
in
addition
to
the
ideas
that
were
mentioned.
I
think
that
making
certain
that
we
have-
I
I'm
just
a
circular
for
those
those
flowers
for
each
in
each
area-
colorful,
flowers
or
either
all
greenery.
L
It
should
be
something
like
an
association
fee
for
people
to
pay
to
have
to
pay
somebody
to
get
it
done,
but
that
that
will
help
beautify
it
and
it
will
give
it'll
give
you
a
good
feeling,
especially
if
you're
at
a
restaurant
and
you're
sitting
outside
having
a
snack
or
just
talking
to
a
neighbor.
L
L
Maybe
we
have
some
stone
road
areas
in
certain
places
and
and
that
that
even
keeps
people
from
driving
too
fast
over
it,
but
it
it
and
it
keeps
a
calm
roads
for
people
who
who
might
be
in
the
shopping
center
yeah.
L
L
I
I
think
that
where-
and
maybe
it
might
have
to
be-
where
whatever
I'm
saying,
but
I
think
where
shoppers
is
right
now
we
need
a
hotel,
because
many
of
us
have
family
reunions
and
we
always
have
to
send
our
family
to
security
rises,
town
owens,
mills
or
somewhere
near
for
them
to
stay.
L
But
all
of
when
you
come
off
of
any
of
the
corridors
exits
off
of
6.95,
they
got
three
or
four
hotels,
yeah.
A
So
you
know
miss
owens.
The
goal
of
this
study
is
to
is
to
draft
design
guidelines.
We
are
not
really
discussing
the
use
on
liberty,
world,
which
I
I
mean.
I
do
understand
that
it's
a
very
important
topic
to
all
of
you,
but
I
think
we
need
to
keep
in
mind
that
the
goal
is
design
guidelines.
J
Okay,
I
know
this
is
on
landscaping,
but
one
of
the
things
about
the
shopping
centers
and
this
might
work
in
landscaping,
because
these
this
might
be
near
some
of
the
landscaping
designs-
is
a
bench
for
sometimes
for
people
to
sit
and
relax,
not
just
relax,
but
sometimes
people
might
need
it.
I
think
this
was
one
of
the
things
we
just.
J
We
talked
about
doing
a
tour,
and
I
think
we
were
at
the
library
we
talked
about
how
there
were
benches
at
the
library
and
and
appropriately
they
did
have
some
bushes
near
it,
which
make
a
defective
area,
but
those
benches
all
across
that
whole
parking,
lot,
yeah
and
possibly
somewhere,
incorporating
with
the
landscaping
design,
is
a
bench
or
two
for
people
who
might
have
to
take
a
sit
down
from
you
know
doing
while
they're
there.
A
L
L
When
night
comes
it's
dark
in
some
of
those
areas,
and
then
it's
dark,
and
especially
some
of
the
areas
that
have
you
know
where
you
you
can
you
can
you
have
the
disability
areas
of
park
and
if
we
had
the
lights
that
were
just
about
the
same
height
of
a
little
over
a
car
height,
those
lights
would
be
shining
closer
because
some
of
them
now
I
noticed
that
some
people
are
trying
to
make
it
more
convenient
for
people
with
disabilities,
but
they
they
put
more
spaces,
but
it's
dark
for
them,
and
we
had
those
beautiful
lights
to
kind
of
hang
over,
look
look
like
they
almost
have
a
skirt
around
it
or
something
you
know
just
with
the
it
enhances
the
shopping
areas
plus
it
protects
the
people
with
disabilities
more
and
make
them
feel
more
comfortable,
especially
those
that
are
in
wheelchairs
and
whatnot.
M
M
Yes,
I'm
thinking
about
the
the
buildings
that
we
looked
at
last
week
when
you
gave
us
the
scrap
footage
of
each
of
the
shopping
centers
and
within
the
square
footage
of
the
shopping
centers.
We
we're
going
to
see
different
numbers
of
parking
spaces
on
the
parking
lots.
So
we
are.
M
We
might
want
to
consider
some
guidelines
that
would
say
that,
for
those
shopping
centers
with
x
numbers
of
thousands
of
square
feet
with
a
certain
number
of
parking
spaces,
then
the
guideline
might
say
that
within
that
parking
space
we
can
create
some
islands
with
some
trees
and
now
miss
orange
talked
about
lighting.
So
within
that
island,
where
there's
some
trees,
we
can
also
have
some
lighting
there
to
me.
That
would
be
a
guideline
to
consider.
A
M
So
the
guideline
could
also
attach
itself
to
benches.
G
Still
have
some
comments
in
the
chat
related
to
landscaping.
Let's
see,
I
think
cecily
was
just
trying
to
point
out.
You
know
that
we
do
typically
try
to
look
at
native
and
adaptive
plant
species
try
to
encourage
using
those
instead
of
invasive
they
typically
hold
up
better
and
they're.
You
know
kind
of
better
for
purposes
of
water
filtration
and
that
type
of
thing.
She
also
noted
about
trees
near
sidewalks
or
in
front
of
retail.
G
G
Let's
see,
planning
areas
can
help
with
stormwater
management,
which
I
think
goes
back
to
some
things
I
was
mentioning
earlier
about
the
native
species
and
and
you
can
design
them
as
rain
gardens
and
bio
swells.
So
it
kind
of
looks
like
a
landscape
strip,
but
it
has
different
purposes
and
you
know
can
can
help
also
touch
on
some
of
the
things
you
guys
were
mentioning
earlier
about.
G
Environmentally
friendly
practices
and
sustainable
practices
throughout
the
the
corridor,
let's
see
what
else,
and
then
india
artis
noted
about
encouraging
evergreens,
so
that
there's
some
level
of
green
in
the
area
all
year
round
and
then
I
believe
devon
mentioned,
displaying
the
history
of
randallstown
or
quotes
from
the
people
around
this
town
in
sitting
areas.
So
that
is
something
where
you
know.
If
you
want
to
encourage
some
public
art,
those
kind
of
landscape,
sitting
areas
or
gathering
areas,
you
know
are
definitely
good
a
good
place
to
do
that
and
I
think
that's
it.
A
Those
are
very
good
ideas.
I
think
we,
we
got
great
ideas
out
of
this
meeting
today,
great
ideas,
so
it's
about
7
10..
I
would
like
to
move
on
and
I
want
to
discuss
the
next
meeting,
so
we
do
have
some
suggestions
for
some
of
the
members.
A
The
scheduled
meeting
date
that
we
had
do
have
some
conflict
with
their
with
their
schedule,
so
I'm
proposing
instead
of
tuesday
december
8th,
I'm
proposing
wednesday
december
9th
same
time
from
6
p.m,
to
7,
30
p.m,
and
then,
for
the
january
meeting
instead
of
tuesday,
I
am
proposing
wednesday
january
13
from
6
p.m,
to
7
30
p.m.
A
They're
good
for
me
too,
thank
you,
so
I
will
send
out
a
new
meeting
invitation
with
the
new
date.
Please
this
and
delete
the
the
scheduled
meeting
day,
the
old
date.
I
will
delete
those.
So
it's
out
of
your
calendar
off
of
your
calendar.
A
I
think
this
was
a
very
good
meeting.
I
would
put
down
all
the
ideas
that
we
heard
today
and
I
will
email
it
to
all
of
the
members
and
feel
free
to
send
me
emails.
You
know
if
you
get
more
ideas,
don't
hesitate
so
the
next
meeting
I
would
like
to
specifically
dedicate
that
meeting
to
maybe
just
architectural
styles
and
then
the
meeting
for
january.
We
can
discuss
signage
and
and
streetscape
and
landscaping.