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A
Clock,
let's
get
started.
Welcome
to
the
october
7th
to
2021.
Meeting
of
the
baltimore
county
planning
board
is
now
called
the
order.
I'm
nancy
hafford
the
chair
of
the
board.
We
will
now
start
our
meeting
with
the
roll
call,
oh
and
then
we'll
first
and
then
we'll
have
a
roll
call
and
then
we'll
have
the
pledge
of
allegiance.
B
C
C
E
A
F
A
A
This
evening
we
have
an
opportunity
to
further
discuss
then
vote
on
whether
the
development
plan
for
the
davis
farm,
pai
1-0606,
presents
a
master
plan
conflict.
This
issue
was
introduced
to
the
board
on
september,
2nd
2021
at
the
september
2nd
2021,
mrs
jennifer
nugent
division,
chief
of
the
department
development
review,
presented
the
department
of
planning's
determination.
A
This
was
followed
by
comments
from
council
representing
the
developer
protestants
and
the
people's
council.
Members
of
the
public
were
given
opportunities
to
speak
on
this
issue.
Mrs
nugent,
mr
alterman,
mr
mckenn
mccain
and
mr
zimmerman
are
here
to
answer
any
further
questions
that
the
board
might
have
before.
We
take
a
vote
board
members.
H
A
B
Sure
be
it
moved
that,
for
the
reasons
stated
in
the
august,
23rd
2021
staff
report
and
reports
from
the
concept
plan
conference
and
development
plan
conference,
the
planning
board's
decision
to
the
administrative
law
judge
is
that
the
proposed
development
davis
farm
does
not
constitute
as
a
conflict
with
the
master
plan.
B
J
A
Mr
arie,
all
right
so
we
have
one
two,
three,
four,
five,
six,
seven
in
favor
one,
two
three
four
opposed
motion
carries
okay.
Next
on
the
agenda,
we
have
an
opportunity
to
further
discuss
and
then
vote
on
resolution,
46-21,
minimum
width
requirements,
town
homes
and
group
homes,
which
was
introduced
at
the
board
at
the
september,
2nd
2021
meeting
by
ms
nugent
division
and
development
review,
a
public
hearing
was
held
on
september,
twenty
third,
twenty
twenty
one.
Mrs
nugent
is
here
to
answer
any
further
questions
that
the
board
might
have
before
we
take
a
vote.
K
I
don't
believe
so
I
our
our
report.
Hopefully
everybody
still
has
it
and
our
recommendation
stands.
Thank
you.
A
A
Did
you
hear
that
kathy
turn
off
your
camera
that
we
might
be
able
to
hear
you
better
then
I.
H
Think
it's
this
200
year
old
tree
I
live
under
that
is
blocking
my
signal.
Is
this
better?
Yes,
much?
Okay,
miss
nugent!
I
see
that
something
you
that
the
planning
department
may
support
is
that
it
only
applied
to
growth
tier
one.
Could
you
please
tell
us
how
much
of
the
county
inside
the
urtle
is
subject
to
growth
tier
one
percentage-wise.
H
Yes-
and
this
isn't
this:
isn't
this
15-foot
house
aren't
they
already
permitted
in
a
pod.
H
Right
right,
so
I
just
I
have
to
question
why
it
should
apply
count
wide
without
the
pot
when
it's
already
permitted.
It's
it's
so
that's
my
opinion,
but
I
see
this
opening
a
flood
gate
and
I
see
just
adding
more
and
more
stock
to
the
low
income
or
as
workforce
communities
in
the
eastern
and
western
parts
of
the
county,
and
I
think
we've
we've.
I
know
in
district
four
we
have
enough
of
it.
So
those
are
my
comments.
B
D
D
We
are
going
to
price
ourselves
out
of
and
I
don't
want
to
call
it
low
we're
our
low
income
housing
this
this.
These
are
working
class
people
that
can't
afford
to
buy
a
house
in
our
county.
So
I
was
able
to
buy
a
house
for
98
000
bucks
in
parks,
food
trails.
When
I
first
moved
here,
I
love
the
community.
I
stayed
there.
D
I
can
afford
a
million
dollar
house,
but
I
stayed
there
and
I
love
the
community,
so
you
know
I
think
it's
a
bigger
problem
than
than
just
baltimore,
but
it's
a
huge
problem
in
baltimore
county
and
we
need
to
really
consider
this.
I've
driven
around
the
state
I've
been
to
pennsylvania
recently
and
seen
16
lives.
They
look,
they
look
great.
L
Madam
chair,
I
did
send
an
email
to
board
members
and
my
question
is:
why
did
we,
why
are
we
skipping
from
20
to
16
and
what
happened
to
18,
which
could
be
a
compromise,
and
no
one
has
answered
that
question.
K
I
can
answer
that
question
mr
array:
it
they're
asking
for
to
reduce
the
minimum
width,
which
means
that
they
could
do
an
18..
If
we
reduce
the
minimum
width
down
to
16,
they
can
do
16
18
20.
They
can
do
any
what
they
want
down
to
now.
We
did
put
in
our
report.
If
you
all
want
to
consider
you
know
reducing
the
width
either
16
or
18.
We
made
some
recommendations
as
a
conditional
use.
J
J
We
don't
have
a
lot
of
land
left
within
the
urtle
or
the
metropolitan
district
to
be
developed.
There's
a
little
bit
on
the
east
side,
maybe
left
in
the
future,
but
the
rest
of
our
county,
as
others
have
said,
are
pretty
well
built
out
in
the
other
districts
going
from
the
first
on
the
west.
To
the
you
know,
the
sixth
pretty
much
with
what's
in
process
right
now
will
be
pretty
well
built
out
as
well.
J
J
That's
my
point:
okay,
that
that
they're
an
affordable
house-
maybe
not
the
prettiest
outside,
because
they
were
built
25
or
30
years
ago.
They
have
aluminum,
siding
and
maybe
some
brick
on
them
and
all-
and
I
did
that
development
for
the
builder
at
that
time,
but
that's
an
affordable
house
that
people
that
might
want
to
move
out
of
the
city,
people
who
might
be
working
in
the
city
at
one
of
the
hospitals
that
wants
to
have
a
house
rather
than
renting
and
rents,
have
going
up
very
substantially
through
this
pandemic.
J
You
know,
has
the
opportunity
to
buy
an
affordable
house,
that's
what
16
foot
homes
allow
us
to
do
and
have
allowed
us
in
the
other
counties
that
surround
us
and
arundel
howard,
prince
george's,
harford
county.
The
everybody
thinks
that
you
know.
Somehow
the
developers
are
going
to
just
you
know,
add
an
extra
200
houses
to
a
piece
of
land.
J
So
there
might
be
a
few
more
houses,
there
might
be
25
more
houses,
but
there's
not
going
to
be
hundreds
of
more
houses
on
these
projects
and
most
of
our
projects,
we're
going
to
find
are
going
to
be
smaller
redevelopment
projects
of
two
five.
If
you're,
lucky
10
acres,
maybe
a
shopping
center
that
no
longer
can
support,
is
not
supported
by
the
community
and
has
become
an
eyesore
and
probably
should
be
torn
down
and
we've
seen
housing
built
behind
foundry
row.
J
J
We
do
it,
but
we
do
it
generally
on
large
projects.
100
200
400
houses,
but
we
don't
have
the
land
to
do
that
anymore.
So
to
require
someone
that's
going
to
develop
a
smaller
project.
You
know
if
you
had
two
acres
and
you
were
doing
you
know
10.5
or
16
you're.
Only
talking
about
32
houses
to
spread
the
cost
of
that
pod
over
those
houses
is
expensive.
So
you've
defeated
the
purpose
of
trying
to
build
an
affordable
house.
J
J
J
We
have
plan
books
now
in
the
county
that
we
didn't
have
25
and
30
years
ago.
The
product
demands
it.
The
purchaser
demands
a
better
looking
outside.
If
that's
what
we're
concerned
with
there's
a
project
up
in
glendon
that
we
approved
a
year
or
two
ago
that
has
about
30
houses
and
we
made
them
put
gingerbread,
I'm
going
to
call
it
on
the
back
of
the
houses,
because
we
as
the
planning
board,
thought
that
was
the
right
thing
to
do.
So
they
still
need
to
go
through
the
process.
J
At
that
point,
but
we
showed
you
very
substantial
pictures
of
projects
in
howard
county,
an
upscale
community,
a
very
nice
county
to
live
in
where
the
16-footers
were
were
readily
accepted
and
did
allow
that
some
are
now
three-story
houses,
but
they
had
the
square
footage
and
you
know
many
years
ago
I
sold
townhouses
off
of
milford
mill,
road
liberty,
road
and
you
know,
I
would
admit
those
outsides,
the
the
siding
was
not
very
pretty,
but
as
I've
been
back
through
the
development,
it's
been
replaced
with
many
much
nicer
projects
and
the
project
still
looks
nice,
but
I
found
living
in
one
of
those
houses
myself
with
my
daughter
and
son
at
that
time,
that
it
was
a
very
small
bedroom
in
that
house.
J
As
I
said
a
couple
weeks
ago,
to
have
two
16-foot
bedrooms
can
be
better
than
having
two
small
eight-foot
bedrooms
at
that
point
you
know
I
believe
in
it,
I
believe,
our
county.
You
know,
with
all
of
the
issues
that
we've
had
with
our
consent,
decree
and
all
has
to
look
to
provide
affordable
housing
to
the
community,
and
that's
what
I
see
us
doing
here.
The
home
builders
association
provided
us
information
that
it
would
save
forty
thousand
dollars,
even
if
it's
only
thirty
thousand
dollars.
J
That's
ten
percent
of
the
value
of
a
house
and
you're
able
to
provide
and
have
the
ability
to
buy
that
house
easier
because
you
don't
need
as
much
down
payment.
Your
settlement
costs
are
something
less
and
it's
something
I
think
we
need
to
provide
to
our
county,
which
has
gotten
to
be
very
close
to
a
50-50
minority
county.
M
Yes,
madam
chair,
I'd
like
to
echo
the
comments
of
mr
warren
and
mr
perlow
on
this
front
and
taking
it
from
a
different
perspective
here,
I'm
30
years
old
and
I'm
very
lucky
that
my
wife
and
I
are
both
attorneys
and
are
able
to
live
in
a
single
family
home
in
the
towson
area.
But
for
a
lot
of
the
people
in
my
age,
cohort
buying
a
home,
especially
in
baltimore
county,
is
becoming
less
and
less
of
an
option,
and,
as
mr
warren,
mr
perlow
noted,
we
have
to
be
creative
with
solutions
for
that.
M
We
have
the
erdl
in
place.
It's
a
great
feature
of
our
county,
that
it
limits
development
of
rural
and
agrarian
areas,
but
in
order
to
balance
both
the
hurdle
and
also
meet
the
needs
of
the
county,
meet
the
needs
of
young
families
and
of
people
who
don't
necessarily
have
the
savings
or
income
to
be
able
to
afford
a
larger
home.
We
need
to
create
more
options,
and
I
think
this
does
that
now
it
does
it
does
that
without,
I
think,
really
doing
anything
detrimental.
M
What
what
I've
seen
is
that
there
are
certainly
concerns
about.
As
mr
perlow
noted,
the
sightings
of
these
homes,
but
but
the
appearance
has
improved
over
time
and
also,
I
think
you
just
simply
need
a
range
of
options
if
we're
going
to
meet
the
housing
demands
of
a
new
generation
and
if
we're
going
to
avoid
a
scenario
where
baltimore
county
sort
of
ages
out
where
young
families
choose
to
move
to
carroll
or
hartford,
where
there
are
more
new
housing
developments
being
built
up
that
are
more
affordable.
M
N
L
K
K
I
mean
I
can't
answer
that
for
certain
we
are
doing
a
recommendation
or
a
report
back
to
the
council
as
to
whether
this
is
a
good
idea.
We've
already
made
our
position
known
that
we
don't
recommend
it.
If
it
were
to
change
the
zoning
code
would
have
to
be
rewritten
and
I'm
sure
there
would
be
discussions
about
how
to
accommodate
the
parking,
because
even
without
reducing
the
whiffs
today,
everybody
does
recognize
that
parking
is
an
issue
with
townhome
communities.
K
You
know
you
more
people
have
more
cars
per
family,
it's
not
as
when
these
regulations
were
put
into
into
law
that
you
know
that
that
statistic
has
changed.
People
didn't
have
as
many
automobiles
per
family
as
they
do
now.
I
You
want
to
jump
in
if
I
may,
piggyback
on
what
miss
nugent
said.
One
of
the
comments
that's
been
made,
and
I
think
some
of
the
images
even
from
mbia
is
that
you
do
not
have
a
front
parking
pad.
If
you
have
a
16
foot
wide
house,
you're
not
going
to
have
a
front
parking
pad
you're
not
going
to
have
a
front
garage,
but
they
could
accommodate
a
garage
in
the
back
of
the
property.
I
It
doesn't
change
the
on-street
parking.
You
know
the
widths
of
the
roads
and
those
things
are
are
looked
at
by
our
department
by
planning,
as
well
as
public
works.
When
they're
reviewing
the
plans-
and
I
know
that
ms
nugent
and
I
both
heard
comments
from
traffic
engineers
and
public
works
about
their
concern
not
to
reduce
road
widths
in
order
to
address
more
cars,
as
ms
nugent
said,
as
more
and
more
people
have
two
or
three
or
four
cars
in
their
household,
but
the
parking
is
a
factor
in
reviewing
any
development
plan.
I
Whether
the
unit
is
16,
foot
wide
or
20
foot
wide.
So
that's
looked
at
as
the
code
requires
or
zoning
regulations
required.
But
it's
not
it's.
It's
looked
at
in
conjunction
with
it,
but
the
width
of
the
house
itself
would
impact
front
parking,
but
not
necessarily
parking
on
the
property
in
the
back.
Mr.
J
I
G
This
yeah
this
is
mark
heckman
as
an
architect
who
has
designed
a
whole
lot
of
multi-family
projects
all
throughout
maryland
and
mid-atlantic.
I
have
to
say
I'm
not
sure
why
we're
concerned
about
18-foot
town
houses,
16-foot
town
houses,
just
about
every
jurisdiction
allows
it
by
right
and
I
would
suggest
and
they're
very
nice.
We
do
it
all
the
time
they're
very
nice
townhouses
I
would
submit
and
then
the
reason
is
is
because
not
everybody
needs
a
2,
800
square
foot,
you
know,
house,
you
know
not.
Everybody
can
afford
a
28
square.
G
G
I
would
also
suggest
that
there's
no
market
rate
developer
that
I
know
of
that
will
want
to
do
anything
less
than
what
the
county
is
going
to
require
for
parking,
that
they
just
won't.
Do
it
for
anything
less
than
two
or
two
and
a
half
parking
spaces
per
unit.
Unless
it's
like
right
up
against
a
transit
station,
or
something
like
that,
so
I
I
would.
I
would
encourage
all
of
us
to
look
at
the
six
allowing
the
16
and
18
foot
ten
houses
without
going
through
the
process.
A
O
William
mcginnis,
I
I
understand.
I
appreciate
the
fact
that
the
developers
and
the
bankers
want
to
have
more
density
where
they
can
make
more
money.
However,
every
new
person
that
they
bring
in
does
necessarily
pay
more
in
taxes
than
they
receive
in
benefits
in
the
county
and
those
who
are
looking
for
more
affordable
housing,
less
cost
housing.
They
can
do
what
thousands
of
people
have
been
doing
in
the
last
30
years
and,
like
one
said
earlier,
they
moved
to
carroll,
county
or
harford,
county
or
adams,
county
or
york
county.
G
F
N
O
They
said
that,
well,
that's
that's
their
option
when
they
they
they
away
all
the
factors
and
the
less
taxes
less
costs
out
in
the
other
areas,
and
that's
why
they've
moved.
B
I
think
if
you
look
at
the
the
sort
of
cost
per
house,
I
mean
you're
going
it's
just
it's
going
to
be
more
economical
for
the
counties
to
have
denser
housing
where
you've
got
more
and
I
think
what
you're
seeing
in
some
of
these
outlying.
You
know:
carroll,
county
york,
county
et
cetera,
they're,
still
relatively
early
in
the
process,
wait
another
decade
or
two
and
see
what
happens
when
they've
gotta
repay
for
their
infrastructure
and
what
that
happens
to
the
tax
rates.
I
think
we're
seeing
that
some
in
harford
county.
B
As
to
the
other
issue,
I
mean
I,
I
take
the
point
that
you
know
we
need.
We
need
to
figure
out
how
to
get
more
housing
in
the
county.
The
one
concern
that
I
have
is
it's
one
thing
to
say
that
you
need
that
that
a
16-foot
wide
house
would
make
it
more
economical
to
build
housing
in,
say,
towson,
where
land
is
really
expensive,
but
in
parts
of
the
county
east
side,
southeast
side,
the
southwest
side,
where
you
don't
have
is
where
the
homes
aren't
as
affordable.
B
My
concern
is
that
you'll
get
developers
who
decide
they're
going
to
build
the
16
footers,
because
they're
only
going
after
the
low
end
of
the
housing
market,
that'll
further
concentrate
sort
of
the
the
the
lower
income
households
in
parts
of
the
county.
You
won't
necessarily
disperse
them,
which
I
think
is
also
part
of.
The
goal
of
the
consent
degree-
is
to
figure
out
how
to
get
affordable
housing
throughout
the
county.
So.
B
K
L
C
A
J
Take
a
vote
see
if
there
is
any.
I
want
to
think
make
sure
that
everybody
does
understand
the
motion
that,
if
they
vote
for
it
it'll
stay
20
feet.
We
can
defeat
the
motion
which
would
allow
us
to
bring
another
motion
to
the
floor,
something
that
we
all
might
agree
with.
So
I
want
to
make
sure
we
all
understand
that.
K
B
C
J
K
Okay,
sorry,
it
doesn't
matter
but
miss
wolfson
was
trying
to
say
aye.
She
raised
her
hand.
A
A
C
A
N
J
C
L
I
We'll
just
we,
if
there's
no
motion
that
the
board
will
pass,
we
will
advise
the
council
just
that.
Okay
planning
board
has
taken
no
position
on
this
request.
D
I
So
I'm
up,
we
can
present
it
that
way.
There's
no
agreement
on
whether
this
reduced
width
should
be
adopted
by
the
county
council.
I
The
issue
could
come
back.
This
was
a
reference
from
the
county
council
to
the
planning
board
for
our
our
advice
or
our
recommendation,
your
recommendation
and
if
the
council
decides
to
re-refer
it
to
us
at
another
time,
they
certainly
could
do
so.
G
I'm
wondering
if,
if
there's
an
opportunity
to
find
some
middle
ground,
that
would
be
acceptable
to
some
of
the
people
that
are
hesitant
to
adopt
this.
That
would
put
some
sort
of
condition
that
planning
department
couldn't
make
sure
gets
enforced
so
that
it
would
alleviate
anybody's
concerns
about
the
16
or
the
18s.
I
Well,
mr
heckman,
we
had
indicated
that
if
there
was
support
that
we
we
would
support
conditional
use,
which
would
then
establish
certain
conditions,
and
that
may
be
an
alternative
or
an
alternative
as
well.
I
Even
though
we
indicated
the
council
that
we'd
report
back
at
this
point
in
time,
if
the
board
decided
to
table
the
matter
and
take
it
up
at
the
next
meeting,
but
in
all
due
respect,
it
would
be
incumbent
upon
board
members
to
come
up
with
some
other
option.
We've
presented,
you
know
our
positions,
and
so,
if
there's
other
options,
we
would
defer
to
the
board
to
come
up
with
some
alternative,
and
that
would
be
an
option.
H
I
The
the
request
from
the
county
council
was
for
the
planning
board
to
review
the
request
by
mbia
and
to
make
a
recommendation
back
to
the
council,
and
it
is,
it
is,
as
you
said,
miss
wolfson.
It's
a
recommendation
to
the
council
that
can
then
either
accept
or
reject
any
recommendation.
We'd
provide.
M
I
was
going
to
say
that
I
think
in
some
respects
the
the
two
votes
sort
of
do
provide
some
context
for
the
county
council
when
they,
when
they
review
the
issue,
I
mean
it
seemed
to
me
that
the
planning
board's
pretty
split
and
there's
some
takeaways
there
that
are
somewhat
indicative.
So
I
mean
I
don't
think
it's
really
the
lack
it
doesn't.
It
doesn't
say
nothing.
It
just
says
that
we
didn't
adopt
a
position
that
that
I
think,
is
somewhat
telling
and
it
fulfills
our
role
in
the
process.
A
B
I
Sir,
no
conditional
use
would
require
a
hearing
and
determination
whether
or
not
the
conditions
can
be
met
in
order
to
grant
the
opportunity
to
build
16
foot
units.
So
someone
mowing
my
their
lawn
outside
here.
B
B
Then
I
guess
a
slightly
different.
I
mean
I
know
that
the
county
has
an
affordable
housing
task
force
going
on,
but
is
there
anyone
looking
at
the
sort
of
broader
issue
that
I
think
howard
and
todd
and
others
have
raised
we're
sort
of
running
out
of
developable
space,
and
so
how
does
the
county?
You
know?
How
do
we,
this
part
of
the
master
plan
process?
B
How
are
we
going
to
address?
I
mean
to
my
mind:
we
either
have
to
allow
denser
housing.
We've
got
to
change
zoning
we've
got
to
train.
We've
got
to
do
something
if
we're
going
to,
or
we
just
say
we're
not
going
to
build
anything,
but
is
there
anyone
with
you
know
within
the
administration,
who's
who's?
Taking
a
look
at
this
issue
right
now,
because
it
seems
bigger
than
just
this,
whether
it's
a
16
foot.
I
The
within
the
affordable
housing
work
group
that
that
has
been
put
in
place
by
the
county
executive
there's
been
more
discussion
about
whether
zoning
class
different
zoning
classifications
should
allow
units
to
be
built
as
opposed
to
widths
or
different
types
of
units
now,
one
that
has
been
presented
as
a
accessory
dwelling
unit.
I
But
beyond
that,
there's
been
no
to
my
knowledge,
maybe
in
at
least
the
other
subcommittee.
There's
been
congress,
no
conversation
about
widths
heights
or
any
of
those
bulk
regulations
that
are
in
place.
It
like.
I
said,
a
lot
more
discussions
been
about
opening
up
other
zoning
classifications
to
allow
housing
to
be
used,
and
some
proposed
or
thoughts
about
changing
some
of
the
processes.
B
Thank
you.
Well,
then,
actually,
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
which
is
to
approve
the
use
of
to
recommend
that
to
the
council
the
approval
of
the
16
foot
width
with,
can
you
know
with
conditions
as
developed
by
the
planning
staff.
A
C
B
C
I
Madam
chair
just
to
clarify
and
make
sure
that
I've
captured.
I
A
I
J
I
I
Not
it's
not
only
by
a
putt,
it's
it'd,
be
by
conditional
use
and
on
page
13
of
the
report,
we
identified
various
conditions
that
we
would
recommend
be
adopted
as
part
of
the
conditional
use,
determination.
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair
members
of
the
board
recent
county
legislation
of
interest
to
the
board.
A
first
is
resolution:
125-21
maryland
agricultural
land
preservation
foundation,
easements.
It's
a
resolution
to
approve
certain
applications
for
the
sale
of
development
rights
easements
on
properties
located
on
farms
that
meet
the
state
criteria
for
application.
In
accordance
with
the
agriculture
article
section,
2-509
of
the
annotated
code
of
maryland,
the
county
executive
and
the
department
of
planning
with
recommendation
of
the
baltimore
county
agricultural
land
preservation.
F
Advisory
board
has
provided
the
county
council,
the
ranking
of
applicants
which
were
approved
next
resolution,
129-21
amending
the
boundary
of
the
perry
hall,
commercial,
revitalization,
district,
a
resolution
for
the
purpose
of
amending
the
boundary
of
the
perry
hall,
commercial,
revitalization
district.
The
amendment
includes
an
extension
along
bel
air
road
to
south
avenue.
F
Each
of
these
areas
mentioned
in
the
resolutions:
dundalk,
essex
and
liberty,
road
set
forth
guidelines
that
will
be
incorporated
into
the
appendices
of
the
comprehensive
manual
of
development
policies
abbreviated
as
cmdp
earlier
this
year.
The
planning
board
voted
to
approve,
updates
to
the
cmdp
section,
4
special
areas
and
procedures,
appendix
updates,
as
well
as
the
design
review
areas
and
design
guidelines
that
completes
the
report.
A
A
It's
five
o'clock
and
we're
going
to
be
starting:
the
baltimore
county
planning
board
public
hearing
for
the
pikesville
commercial
revitalization
action
plan.
The
public
hearing
is
called
to
order.
I'm
nancy
hafford,
I'm
the
chairwoman
of
the
baltimore
county
planning
board.
We
will
start
with
the
roll
call
accounting
for
all
our
board
members
that
are
present
for
this
meeting.
When
you
hear
your
name,
please
say:
aye,
mr
switzer
hi
miss
pinero,
mr
hartman
aye,
mr
halipta.
N
N
A
Thank
you
all
the
baltimore
county
planning
board
meeting
of
september
23rd
2021,
mr
william
zabanski
baltimore
county
department
of
planning,
community
planning
western
sector
coordinator,
introduced
the
pikesville
commercial,
revitalization
and
action
plan.
Mr
sabinski
is
here
to
further
present
on
the
pikesville
commercial
revitalization
action
plan
to
the
board.
A
R
R
I
also
want
to
thank
members
of
the
community
that
I
see
here
this
evening.
I
just
like
to
say
that
this
really
is
their
plan
and
reflects
the
feedback
gathered
over
the
past
four
plus
years,
along
with
a
lot
of
other
work
that
has
gone
into
revitalizing
price
bill.
You
know
even
prior
to
that
study,
beginning
in
2017.
F
R
Very
good
before
we
get
into
some
of
the
meat
of
providing
a
summary
of
of
the
action
plan,
just
wanted
to
give
a
couple
of
recap
slides.
Firstly,
here
again,
as
you
saw
during
the
introduction,
is
the
action
plan
timeline
which
highlights
some
of
the
major
timeline
events.
R
You
can
see
some
of
the
other
milestones
going
back
to
april
2017
when
the
pikesville
study
began
and
then
moving
into
april
2019
when
that
study
was
presented
and
to
the
community
as
well
as
published
online,
which
led
into
a
great
deal
more
community
input,
as
well
as
the
drafting
of
this
bikesville
commercial
revitalization
action
plan.
R
Pikesville,
is
also
within
the
also
has
adopted
commercial
revitalization
guidelines
which
further
steers
quality
redevelopment
and
improvement
in
the
pikesville
crd,
as
well
as
also
having
being
a
part
of
the
commercial
design
review
panel.
R
R
R
They
like
area
that
attracts
local
residents,
as
well
as
regional
visitors,
more
open
gathering
space
for
the
community
to
enjoy
more
local
events
for
the
community
to
enjoy,
as
well
like
to
see
a
trail
network
developed
that
interconnects,
the
various
neighborhoods
and
the
commercial
revitalization
district,
as
well
as
improved
truck
traffic
and
parking
and
looking
at
ways
to
bring
in
more
mixed
use
or
live.
Where
you
work.
Development.
R
Along
with
that,
there
is
the
creation
of
a
action
plan
committee
that
will
focus
on
the
goals
and
action
items
that
we'll
discuss
shortly
and
that
will
also
bring
in
more
engaged
leadership
and
stronger
advocacy
towards
revitalizing.
The
district
we'll
also
provide
much
greater
business
outreach,
as
well
as
collaboration
with
groups
such
as
the
chamber
of
commerce
and
as
well
as
various
baltimore
county
agencies,.
R
R
I'm
just
going
to
go
ahead
and
read
these
out
loud,
so
goal
number
one
is
to
create
a
pikesville
identity
and
marketing
campaign
goal.
Two
is
to
have
improvements
to
streetscape
facades,
streamline
and
promote
revitalization
programs,
goal
four
monitor
and
improve
transportation
and
parking
goal.
Five
update
design
guidelines
and
evaluate
zoning
classifications.
R
R
So
all
revitalization
faces
challenges,
but
within
those
challenges,
opportunities
are
always
present.
R
R
Seeking
out
developers
to
reinvest
into
the
area,
there
are
challenges
with
traffic
and
parking
and,
of
course,
reisterstown
road
or
maryland
140
being
a
state
highway
just
adds
another
layer
of
complications
and
then
also
being
able
to
work
with
the
revenue
authority
is
not
so
much
a
challenge,
but
can
be
an
opportunity.
R
R
We
then
have
the
central
business
district
highlighted
in
red,
which
is
that
high
impact
area
where
we're
really
going
to
focus
on
a
lot
of
these
revitalization
goals
outlined
in
the
plan
and
then
moving
down
from
sudbrook
avenue
down
to
the
city
line.
We
have
in
green
the
neighborhood
commercial
area.
R
R
And
that's
all
I
have
for
this
presentation.
Does
anyone
have
any
questions
before
we
get
into
the
public
testimonies.
A
Thank
you,
mr
at
this
time
I
will
call
on
you
call
on
those
of
you
that
have
completed
the
online
registration
posted
on
the
board's
website
to
speak
on
the
topic
in
order
that
you
did
register
for
those
who
wish
to
provide
written
testimony
during
the
hearing,
you
can
do
so
by
typing
your
comments
to
the
host
in
the
chat
box
and
the
comments
will
be
read
to
the
board
members
during
this
meeting.
A
E
E
E
Okay,
thank
you.
I've
got
a
couple
of
machines
going
here,
the
computer
and
the
phone.
I
couldn't
get
my
hear
you
through
the
computer,
so
I
represent
a
thousand
friends
of
pisceville
inc,
which
is
a
is
a
group
that's
been
around
for
almost
ten
years
now
and
represents
a
large
block
of
of
the
pikesville
presidents
and
community
leaders.
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
board
members
and
planning
staff,
especially
bill
skibinski,
who
has
carried
through
over
difficult
times,
but
has
always
been
engaging
with
us,
and
so
I
thank
him
for
his
efforts
and
everyone
who
has
put
their
effort
in
to
see
this
action
plan
for
the
revitalization
of
pipeville,
adopted
into
the
current
2020
county
master
plan,
so
that
it
will
carry
over
to
the
2030
county
master
plan
currently
being
formulated.
E
Thank
you
all
on
including
the
county
executive
and
certainly
councilman
patoka,
for
their
efforts
towards
this
important
task.
We
are
cognizant
that
the
professional
staff
of
the
planning
department
included
so
many
of
the
recommendations
previously
presented
during
the
comment
period
by
thousand
friends
of
pikesville
inc.
The
collaboration
between
the
county
and
the
community
to
produce
this
action
plan
is
exemplary
and
we
appreciate
it
and
the
entire
community
does.
E
At
the
end
of
the
sentence,
please
consider
adding
after
district
utilizing
the
concept
of
context,
sensitive
design
number
two
under
goal:
three
page:
two
at
the
end
of
the
sentence
add
after
the
word
station
and
to
the
surrounding
neighborhoods
in
number
three
in
goals:
eight
and
9,
page
16
under
the
column
of
partners
and
contributors
ad,
the
revenue
authority,
which
I
think
bill
just
referred
to
to
both
of
those
as
partners
and
number
four
on
page
17
of
goal.
11.
E
there's
only
10
goals
right
now,
but
we
would
like
to
add
an
11th
goal:
develop
the
historic
lifestyle
arm
rate
finance
program
and
implement
development
of
the
historic
vice
army,
in
accordance
with
the
mission
statement
established
by
the
governor's
commission
to
study
the
future
of
the
pikesville
armory.
E
Further,
our
traffic
and
safety
committee
for
thousand
friends
of
pikesville
looked
at
long-range
actions
that
would
further
enhance
the
viability
of
reisterstown
road
corridor
as
not
not
as
just
a
path
through
pass-through
convenience,
as
it
is
now,
but
a
highly
desirable
shopping
destination
for
local
residents
and
visitors
alike.
Mr.
B
Q
Evening,
I'm
science,
that's
all
right.
I
apologize
that's
okay,
madam
chair
hilford,
and
director
lafferty.
My
name
is
mel
mintz.
Thank
you
for
your
attention
to
this
plan.
The
professional
planning
staff
has
created
a
very
good
document,
while
it
does
not
include
every
jot
that
has
been
suggested
by
me
or
everyone
involved
in
this
process.
It
is
a
very
good
document.
Q
Q
Q
County,
executive,
oshevsky
and
councilman
patoka
are
to
be
commended
for
igniting
the
current
increase
in
activity
to
get
this
document
before
you,
the
planning
staff,
particularly
bill
skibinski,
has
diligently
kept
at
this
process,
utilizing
every
bit
of
community
input
and
compiling
this
former
plan.
Q
Today,
you
just
heard
from
the
thousand
friends
of
pikesville,
delivered
by
the
revitalization
committee
chaired
by
dean
rondell,
the
transportation
committee
was
chaired
by
neville
jacobs.
The
beautiful
pikesville
committee
was
chaired
by
dara
brady.
The
hype
bike
and
pike
committee
was
chaired
by
amy
rubino.
Q
The
armory
committee
was
chaired
by
howard
needle
billy
chase
on
the
redevelopment
committee
and
shelley
moorheem
as
president
plus
neighborhood
associations
throughout
the
community
have
all
weighed
in
all
have
contributed
mightily
to
this
effort.
I
trust
that
there
will
be
an
appropriate
time
to
explore
some
additional
refinements
again,
congratulations
to
all
contributing
to
getting
this
plan
produced.
A
Thank
you
miss
mr
mintz,
for
your
comments.
I'm
going
to
give
this
one
last
time,
mr
neville
jacobs,
are
you
able
to
get
in.
S
Okay,
very
good.
What
I'd
just
like
to
do
is
read
the
second
part
of
mr
rondell's
presentation
that
he
was
timed
out
for,
if
I
may,
and
that
is
that
further
the
traffic
and
safety
committee
for
the
thousand
friends
of
pikesville
looked
at
longer
range
actions
that
would
further
enhance
the
viability
of
the
racist
and
corridor
as
not
just
a
traffic
pass
through
convenience,
as
it
is
now,
but
as
a
highly
desirable
shopping
destination
for
local
residents
and
visitors
alike.
S
Similar
successful
action
was
taken
by
chasemansville
a
few
years
ago
in
order
to
enhance
that
downtown
and
increase
rental
retail
activity
and
investment
by
improving
the
visual
quality
of
the
community
core
make
number
three
is
make
crosswalks
safer
with
the
possibility
of
providing
traffic
islands
along
racist
down
road
in
the
area
of
the
central
business
district.
This
could
be
made
possible
by
the
widening
of
reisterstown
road
once
the
utility
poles
have
been
relocated.