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This is the India office hours hosted by Samrat Kishor | @samratkishor
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A
Okay,
so
we're
now
live,
hey
everyone!
Thank
you
so
much
for
joining
one
more
time
at
the
baseline
show
in
india.
We
do
this
every
saturday
at
6
pm
and
we
welcome
community
members
and
contributors
to
the
baseline
protocol.
A
I
am
samrat
kishore
part
of
the
technical
sharing
committee
at
baseline
protocol
and
also
the
head
for
india
community
with
me.
I
have
our
our
featured
speaker
today
for
for
for
today's
episode,
anais
or
frank,
we
have
mark
haddle.
We
have
mohan
all
all
very
well
established
members
of
the
baseline
community,
I'm
going
to
start
with
one
small
custom
which
is
playing
the
baseline
theme
song,
and
this
is
our
india
specific
theme
song.
So
so
here
it
goes.
A
So
yeah,
so
that's
that's
the
theme
we're
going
to
be
enjoying
going
forward.
So
so
here
we
are
everybody.
So
today's
agenda
is
is
is
very
clear.
We
are
while
we
are
leading
up
to
a
different
segment
of
episodes
coming
up
in
september,
where
we
are
lining
up
a
lot
of
external
featured
speakers
for
our
shows
we
are
currently
in
the
process
of
rethinking.
A
You
know
the
way
the
shows
are
are
being
conducted
and
the
way
the
community
is
being
built.
So
a
lot
of
organizations
had
shown
interest
in
the
past
and
and
we've
been
we've
been
talking
to
them
on
various
aspects
of
collaborating
their
marketing.
Teams
are
working
with
us,
we're
also
presenting
in
some
of
the
largest
events
which
are
coming
up
in
india
and
abroad.
A
Eth
atlanta,
for
example,
ether
atlanta,
we're
we're
going
big
on
either
atlanta
consensus
is
sponsoring
baseline
protocol
to
be
present
at
atlanta
and
and
a
lot
of
our
community
members
have
already
voted
positive
about
the
hackathon
prices
being
sponsored
from
the
from
the
fund
which
baseline
protocol
had
so
so
that's
a
major
major
update
for
for
every
every
community
member.
The
second
most
important
update
that
we
have
is
nasscom
natc,
nascom
annual
technology
conference
is
coming
up
in
september.
A
23Rd
to
22nd
to
24th
of
september
and
baseline
protocol
is
going
big
this
time
on
nascom
annual
technology
conference,
so
we're
going
to
be
participating
via
what
via
microsoft
accenture.
You
know
we're
currently
talking
to
folks
there
we'll
also
be
so
our
our
head,
our
dsc
chair,
john
walpert,
he'll,
be
speaking.
A
He
has
a
big
slot,
he'll,
be
speaking
about
a
lot
of
things,
baseline
and,
and
we
also
have
andrea's
friend.
We
also
have
kyle
who's,
taking
up
zkp
andres
speaking
on
dids,
I
am
speaking
on
cyber
security
on
blockchain,
and
I
have
I
have
another
co-speaker
in
my
session,
dr
mason
salahi,
he's
from
ec
council.
So
we've
got
a
power
packed
lineup
from
baseline.
You
know
a
solid
representation
from
baseline
community
into
the
nhtc.
So
so
it's
going
to
be
big
and
I
invite
all
contributors.
A
You
know
community
members
who
are
currently
associated
with
us
to
to
to
participate
in
this
event,
as
it
comes
up
oasis,
has
kindly
extended
their
support
in
promoting
this
event.
Both
these
events
actually
so
and
they've
already
started
so
so
I
think
it's
gonna
be
huge
pump
for
baseline
community.
We're
going
to
be.
I
think,
that's
a
that's
a
clear
point
of
validation.
You
know,
as
as
far
as
it
comes
to
two
companies,
you
know
come
joining
us
as
sponsors,
so
so
this
is
a
huge.
So
we
are.
A
We
are
actually
at
a
tipping
point
and
you
know
I'm
really
excited
about
it
and
over
to
you
guys.
You
know
the
others
have
been
very
others
have
been
quiet
so
so
yeah
I
want
to.
I
want
to
hear
your
thoughts
on
that.
B
B
I
don't
come
from
a
blockchain
background,
as
everybody
on
the
other
call
knows,
but
the
interiors
from
baseline
come
really
from
integrating
and
solving
real
business
problems,
so
going
the
extra
step
and
leaving
the
blockchain
focus
community
and
call
and
engage
with
the
wider
technical
profiles
and
decision
makers
on
the
business
side
to
articulate
the
business
value
proposition
to
really
explain
what
the
protocol
is
about,
what
the
standard
delivers
and
what
are
the
opportunities
for
both
software
and
service
providers
out
there.
It's.
A
C
I
would
say
no,
this
is
a
tremendous
opportunity
with
a
you
know:
hugely
expanded
reach,
as
you
had
said
before,
you
said,
india
is
the
back
office
of
the
world,
and
you
know
in
involves
many
of
the
people
that
would
actually
you
know
be
involved
in.
C
You
know,
thinking
all
this
out
and
then
implementing
it
and
then
actually
using
it
once
it
became
implemented
as
well
as
a
lot
of
people
you
know
coming
in
and
saying
you
know
this
is
this
is
so
much
easier
than
you
know
what
we've
been
trying
to
work
with
with
blockchain
for
the
past,
probably
five
or
six
years,
and
we
keep
running
into
these
persistent
problems
with
scaling
and
covering
the
last
mile
and
blockchain
is
detect.
C
I
mean
baseline
is
a
technique
that
really
you
can
achieve
so
much
of
the
use
case
intentions
without
having
to
completely
upset
the
entire
landscape.
C
A
Yeah
yeah,
so
that's
what
we're
working
towards.
So
I
think
the
first
we're
in
the
sixth
week
of
the
india
baseline
show
and
the
the
different
episodes
that
I've
done
and-
and
you
know,
mark
moan
you've
been
very
consistent
on
my
episode.
So
so
it's
these
are,
so
these
have
been
towards
educating
people
towards
motivating
them
to
to
come,
become
part
of
it
and
you
know
showing
them
the
bigger
picture.
We
also
had
some
industry
specific
episodes
right,
so
we.
C
A
Industry,
specific
episodes-
I
think
those
were
also
pretty
important
ones,
and-
and
I
found
a
lot
of
value
personally-
you
know
connecting
with
different
speakers
and
different
aspects
of
various
industries
which
were
discussed
on
our
shows
mohan.
You
want
to
come
in
your
thoughts
on
on
the
recent
updates
what's
happening,
I
think.
D
The
nasscom
thing
is
going
to
be
huge
because
in
all
of
this
it's
been
quiet.
You
know
we
haven't
had
too
much
chatter
on
the
india
baseline
right,
but
I
think
with
nascom.
If
we
follow
it
up
with
some
hackathons
in
india,
I
think
it'll
start,
you
know
really
heating
up.
I
think
the
momentum
has
to
be
maintained
and
I
think,
with
the
version
1.0
and
and
the
provide
implementation
kind
of
coming
out.
I
think
the
timing
is
all
right.
I
mean
it's
all
in
the
stars.
It.
A
All
I
think,
absolutely
so
so
yeah,
it's
it's!
It's
wonderfully
timed
20th,
22nd
24th
of
september
nasscom
event
and
first
to
third
of
october,
the
east
atlanta,
and
are.
D
A
Should
do
that
he's
he's.
A
B
A
So
we
should
yeah
we
should.
We
should
definitely
have
that
yeah,
that's
a
good
idea
to
give
an
indian
flavor
to
it.
So
coming
back
to
so
anna
is
over
to
you.
I
would
want
you
to
talk
a
little
about
your
motivation,
your
background,
your
motivation
to
join
the
the
community
and
and
how
you've
been
contributing.
You
know
all
of
us
know
that
you've
done
a
fantastic
job
on
the
standard.
So
congratulations
and
kudos
to
that.
Thank
you.
You
already.
You
also
won
a
recent
grant.
A
You
know
in
the
community,
so
I
think
you
should
talk
about
the
various
aspects
of
your
contribution
and
how
you
came
about
becoming
the
head
of
the
standards
committee
and
and
also
winner
of
the
of
the
recent
grant,
and
and
what
are
your
plans
in
future
plus.
You
also
have
some
slides
to
talk
about
right
on
on
the
basis
baseline,
so
go.
B
B
I
was
working
on
the
project,
a
large
financial
transformation
with
a
global
company,
and
it
was
a
significant
headache
looking
at
each
debt
and
trying
to
reconcile
and
add
a
best
practice
and
looking
at
sap,
and
they
were
going
through
an
acquisition
and
there
was
oracle.
So
it
just
spoke
to
me
like
that's
what
we
need.
Is
it
ready?
Let's
go
straight
into
it.
B
So
my
initial
desire
to
contribute
really
came
from
this
recognition
that
okay,
there
is
something
there
in
terms
of
solving
real
business
problems
that
enterprises
are
facing
and
if
there
is
an
efficient
way
to
do
so
in
a
cost,
effective
manner.
I
need
to
understand
so
I
reached
out
first
to
john
walper.
I
believe-
and
I
expressed
my
interest-
we
had
the
first
call.
He
explained
a
bit
the
whole
structure,
the
governance
and
everything,
and
I
had
done
some
reading
myself.
So
I
had
some
questions
about
it
and
straight
away.
B
I
decided
I
will
commit
the
time
and
to
get
deep
into
this
so
and
it
was
a
bit
of
a
good
coincidence.
I
would
say
in
september
there
was
the
first
technicality
in
committee
vote
yeah,
so
I
was
encouraged.
I
would
put
it
that
way,
based
on
the
different
contributions
that
are
done
on
the
ripple.
B
So
at
that
time
it
was
a
baseline
world
map,
people,
some
use
cases
and
some
documentation,
consolidation
and
other,
like
code
related
questions
that
had
put
to
to
apply
basically
and
to
see
yeah.
If
we
would
vote
based
on
the
content
of
this
contribution
and
they
did
so
at
the
beginning,
it
was
really
trying
to
understand
where
to
add
value,
and
I
think
for
each
contributor.
It's
always
the
same
question
based
on
my
skill
set
and
experience.
Where
can
I
have
the
most
impact
and
from
a
requirement
and
articulate
what
the
enterprise
needs?
B
I
would
say
it
was
kind
of
a
natural
fit
for
me
to
go
more
understand
outside
of
things.
I'm
also
part
of
the
mentornet
team,
but
it's
more
to
be
the
voice
of
the
standout
to
ensure
the
alignment
between
what
the
maintenance
team
or
codev
as
they
will
be
rebranded
very
soon,
and
the
standard
team
is
doing
so.
Yes,
that's
really
how
it
happened,
and
obviously
I
met
andreas
which,
for
me,
is
sensei.
Andreas.
B
I've
learned
a
lot
from
the
approach
to
standard
development
as
well,
so
we
are
all
familiar
on
the
call
with
a
business
requirement,
technical
requirement
and
all
of
those
things,
but
the
skills
in
for
writing,
standards
and
oasis,
and
all
that
comes
with
it.
It's
a
different
things
and
that's
something
which
is
which
I
find
right:
valuable
yeah.
So
that's
how
it
started
really
and
one
year
in
this
is
where
we
are
so
in
terms
of
what
we
have
done
over
the
last
year.
B
At
the
beginning,
we
really
focused
on
what
should
the
standout
include?
What
should
it
be?
And
then
we
went
and
we
decided
oh,
should
I
share
my
screen.
Maybe
it
will
be
easy.
A
B
So
when
we
speak
about
the
baseline
standard,
we
are
really
speaking
about
three
different
specifications,
so
the
baseline
core,
the
baseline
api
and
data
model
specification
and
the
baseline
ccsm,
so
a
consensus
control
cell
matching
specification.
B
Those
are
three
distinct
documents,
but
they
are
all
part
of
the
baseline
protocol
standard,
so
they
are
all
required
for
baseline
implementation
to
be
compliant
so
the
core.
Well,
I
won't
read
the
detail,
but
I
will
just
explain
that
I-level
is
the
function,
the
functional
and
the
non-functional
requirements,
so
that
enterprises
can
operate
confidentially
very
and
deliver
on
very
complex
business
processes,
so
they
can
collaborate
with
each
other
over
a
minute.
So
there
are
some.
There
is
some
technical
terminology
which
is
obviously
as
part
of
every
standout
included
at
the
very
very
beginning.
B
So
the
core
is
this
and
I
would
encourage
it
doesn't
matter
if
you
are
a
technical,
a
developer
or
not.
I
would
say
that
the
first
part
of
the
standard
understanding
why
to
are
we?
Why
do
we
even
need
the
baseline
protocol
and
the
design
architecture?
And
what
is
meant
to
deliver
will
be
a
good
value
to
anybody
who
is
interested.
So
you
don't
need
to
read
alzheimer's,
it's
a
big
chunky
document,
but
the
introduction
and
the
first
part,
which
is
design
and
architecture.
I
believe
yes,
it's
worthwhile.
B
If
you
are
really
interested,
it
definitely
worthwhile
having
a
look
at
this
and
obviously
the
api
and
data
models,
all
the
set
of
interfaces
and
the
data
schemas
and
everything
and
the
ccsm,
because,
as
we
know,
the
premise
of
the
baseline
protocol
is
that
we
operate
over
a
main
net.
So
but
what
is
a
main
net?
And
can
we
abstract
to
be
more
exclusive
and
to
be
more
future
proof?
So
we
started
with
mainnet,
we
went
to
dlt
and
we
settled
on
the
terminology.
Consensus
control,
state
machine.
B
So
those
three
drafts
are
on
the
repo
and
they
are
very
distinct
in
their
intent
and
their
purpose,
but
they
are,
each
of
them
are
required
and
basically,
when
we
talk
about
baseline,
called
v1,
we
talk
about
the
compilation
of
all
of
those
three
specifications,
but
also
the
source
code,
so
v1.
What
is
on
the
core?
So
if
you
go
to
the
github
ripple
baseline,
not
the
baseline
standard,
just
baseline,
you
have
the
core.
So
all
those
interfaces
compliant
with
this
api
and
data
model.
B
A
I
was
just
gonna
say
that
people
should
also
you
know.
If
people
are
going
through
these
these
documents,
they
should
also
pay
a
lot
of
attention
to.
I
think
the
the
the
definitions
that
we've
included
there.
B
A
I
think
all
of
that,
coming
together,
we
it's
been
through
a
lot
of
hammering
and
now
the
definitions
which
are
now
published
that
they
are
they're
they're
super
cool.
You
know,
especially
you
know,
cc
the
the
ccs.
A
B
Ahead
with
the
stream
okay,
so
I
will
just
go
and
provide
at
eye
level
the
different
components
of
each
specification
so
for
core
and
for
api.
So
for
the
core
there
are
really
seven
building
block.
I
would
say
everybody
go
redesign,
an
architecture,
it's
very
it's
very
interesting,
it's
very
childhood
and
it
doesn't
go
into
technical
detail,
it's
very
accessible
because
it's.
What
is
what
is
it
about
what
we
are
trying
to
accomplish
and
what
is
our
thought
process
behind
it?
Basically,
then
we
have
everything
related
to
identity,
so
decentralized,
identity,
federated
identity,
etc.
B
So,
which
is
a
big
topic,
because
one
of
the
key
I
would
say
goal
would
be
for
each
enterprise
participating
in
baselining
to
be
to
own
their
own
identity
unless
they
choose
to
delegate.
Obviously,
then
we
have
abstraction
layers
and
that
which
I
will
show
a
bit
later
to
make
it
more
concrete,
so
the
dpi,
so
a
baseline
protocol,
implementation
and
basically,
let's
say,
there's
a
magnet
to
simplify
then
the
middleware
communication
and
enter
intel
operability,
because,
let's
not
forget
at
the
end,
it's
all
about
integration
right,
we
want
to
come.
B
We
want
system
of
records,
of
each
participant
to
baselining,
to
be
able
to
stay
in
sync
to
data
synchronization
and
workflow
continuity.
Then
we
have
everything
related
to
a
workflow,
exe
transaction
transaction
life
cycle,
the
storage
and
cap
storage
capabilities
requirement
and
a
big
big
thing,
which
is
where
compliance
comes
into
conformance.
B
What
are
the
test
clauses,
the
different
level
of
compliance,
etc,
etc?
So
I
would
say
the
core
specification
is
not
for
the
developers
to
go
through.
It
is
for
the
auditors
and
for
all
you
know
those
people
within
enterprise,
the
legal
side,
and
that
needs
the
insurance
that
okay
is
there
a
standout
that
exists
and
if
I
need
to
dig
into
it,
okay,
I
can
justify
this
is
the
document
for
them.
So
now,
when
we
go
into
the
api-
and
there
is
a
swagger
api
already
published
it-
I
think
it's
99
percent.
B
There
is
all
about
the
different
interfaces,
so
we
have
the.
I
believe
it's
called
the
ibs
line
rpc,
but
let's
refer
to
it
as
baseline.
So
it's
everything
related
to
the
middleware
interfaces
for
baselining
the
different
system
of
records.
Then
we
have
a
registry.
So
everything
related
to
the
management
of
war
groups,
the
organization
etc,
then
volts
for
digital
authentication,
credential,
ccsm,
again
mainnet,
okay,
if
you
see
cssm
thing,
mainnet
and
all
everything
related
to
privacy,
so
the
interface
is
for
zero
protocol
cryptography
and
the
different
aspects
of
that
as
well.
B
B
B
Whoever
wants
to
implement
does
not
need
to
go
through
that
inc,
because
there
is
a
very
thorough
implementation
guide
that
goes
requirement
by
requirement
to
explain
what
those
are
and
how
they
could
be
implemented.
So
that
would
be
the
document
a
most
appropriate
document
for
implementers,
but
whoever
is
interested
in
understanding.
Okay,
what
this
is
about
a
glossary
and
introduction
design
and
architecture
will
help
from
a
business
analysis
again
for
a
business
point
of
view
commercially.
Regarding
binding
the
document
all
of
those
are
covered
within
that
document.
B
B
B
B
Have
a
published
standard,
let's
say
early
20,
so
q1
2022..
I
will
put
this
like
like
this.
A
Okay,
yeah,
but
I
think
you
know
one
thing
which
I
can
definitely
say
out
of
our
internal
meetings
that
we
that
we
recently
had
that
people
from
oasis
did
mention
that
this
was
one
of
the
fastest
groups
which
came
up
with
the
standard
and-
and
you
know
now
on
the
path
to
be
ratified
and
and
and
becoming
a
iso
center.
I
think
that's
something
commendable,
and
I
so
you
should.
You
know,
give
yourself
a
pat
on
the
back.
A
D
A
D
Yeah
the
question
I
had
was
so
the
gratification
will
probably
occur
early
in
2022.
What
about
the
requirement?
Is
there
requirements
for
open
sourcing?
Anything
that's
built
like
including
connectors.
B
Easier
in
general
to
show
where
everything
sits.
So,
let's
start
from
the
very
beginning.
So
when
you
go
under
the
ea
community
project,
you
have
baseline
standard,
which
is
where
all
the
drafts
for
the
specification
sits.
But
if
you
want
to
see
the
code,
the
open
source
code,
you
will
go
under
that
repo
baseline
under
this
baseline.
There
is
a
core
here,
and
this
is
where
all
the
open
source
will
be
released.
B
B
That's
one
of
the
requirements
of
the
grants
everybody
that
has
been
allocated
the
grant
has
to
publish
their
source
of
their
work
open
source
so
under
which
repository
I
believe
it
will
be
on
the
baseline,
maybe
not
example,
so
example
under
we
under
examples,
we
have
the
different
reference
implementations,
so
we
will
have
to
ask
actually
a
good
point
where
maybe
we'll
we
should
add
another
another
directory
for
connectors,
for
example,
and
just
but
I'm
not
too
sure
where
it
is
at
the
moment.
Yeah.
D
So,
given
that,
given
the
fact
that,
if
you
get
a
grant,
you
should
require
to
publish
whatever
connector
or
component
or
anything
that
you
develop
as
an
open
source,
what
happens
if,
right
now,
for
example,
there
is
no
grant
money
available
right
for
now,
apart
from
the
atlanta,
there
is
no
more
ground.
So
if
someone
is
developing
a
connector,
so
what
is
the?
What
is
the
requirement
there
if
they
are
doing
it
on
their
own,
for.
B
Example,
there
is
no
requirement
to
open
source
or
you
can
do
like
provide
if
you
go
under
the
provide
reference
implementation,
which
is
bri
one,
you
will
see
that
some
components
are
fully
open
tools
and
some
components
are
just
black
boxes.
You
use
profile
components,
but
you
cannot
change
or
access
them.
So
there
is
for
a
contributor
point
of
view
and
of
course
there
is
the
economic
and
element
to
it.
B
B
You
know
as
a
faster
or
more
complete
way
to
open
source
that
could
be
the
way
to
go,
but
it
could
be
perceived
as
as
well.
Oh
I'm
building
a
product.
My
brother
deck
is
a
connector.
Why
would
I
want
to
open
sources
it
so
it
depends.
There
is
no
strict
requirement
on
what
should
be
open
source
or
not,
and.
B
So
we
are
in
the
process
of
building
all
those
test
classes,
so
part
of
the.
If
you
remember
in
the
call
the
last
section
is
conformance,
so
all
those
test
clauses
and
test
classes,
so
the
process
when
the
standard
will
be
published
will
be
to
go
to
a
third
party.
We
will
see
who
that
third
party
will
be
and
to
have
the
code
yeah
go
through
all
those
conformance
clauses
and
yeah
will
be.
B
It
will
be
determined
if
they
are
compliant
to
the
standout
or
not
and
to
what
level,
because
the
standard
has
different
level
of
requirement
there
are,
must
have
requirements
so
the
minimum.
You
have
to
do
it
whatever
implementation,
but
there
are
optional
requirements
as
well
and
conditional
requirements
as
well,
so
every
implementer
will
be
free
to
you
know
it
could
be
a
competitive
advantage
to
say
we
have
implemented
all
the
requirements
so
must
haves.
I
should
have
the
food
app,
so
thank.
D
A
So
so
you
know,
this
is
really
interesting
so
and
I
used
to
just
walk
us
through
one
individual
trying
to
join
the
community.
Now,
how
do
they
go
to
the
standard?
How
do
they
adopt
it?
How
do
they
start
stuff,
which
we
want
them
to
do?
You
know
just
quickly,
maybe
five
minutes.
Let's
talk
about
that
and
a
newbie
individual
joining
today.
Okay,.
B
What
will
I
say
first,
we
need
to
understand
that
there
are
different
onboarding
paths
if
you
are
a
developer,
technical
or
if
you
are
more
interested
in
the
community,
marketing
or
business
development,
or
if
you
are
more
interested
in
just
standout.
So
there
are
like
the
three
clear
paths:
if
you
are
a
developer,
I
would
say
first
resource
or
go
to
the
dev
channel
on
slack
engage
actively
with
some
stock,
who
is
leading
the
maintenance
code,
f
team
and
get
familiar
with
the.
B
I
would
say
from
a
developer
point
of
view
and
the
open
issues,
the
first
step
to
get
involved
will
be
want
to
see
if
you
can
tackle
any
of
the
open
issues
and
there
are
issues
which
are
attack
which
are
labeled
as
good
first
issue.
I
believe
that
the
label
so
try
to
get
into
those
good
first
issue
and
see
if
you
can
add
value
there,
but
it
could
be
as
well
that
I
believe
there
is
a
new
contributor
who
started
this
week
or
who
joined
storage
this
week
and
he
asked
question
and
he
realized.
B
Oh,
when
I
deployed
on
my
windows
machine,
there
were
some
steps
missing
from
the
from
the
tutorial,
so
it
will
put
a
pr
to
address
those
and
help
others.
So
I
would
say
just
getting
there
and
see:
well,
you
can
add
value,
identify
the
like
low
and
get
fruits
that
you
can
just
pick
and
say.
Okay,
I
can
do
this.
I
can
do
that
so
now,
if
you
are
not
a
developer,
so
you
may
be
more
on
the
business
architecture,
enterprise
architecture
or
even
even
further
away
business
side.
B
I
would
definitely
say
to
reach
out
to
the
outreach
team
to
understand
more
about
what
they
have
been
doing
to
date
and
it's
melanie
somalia,
I
believe
who
is
still
leading
that
team.
So
I
would
definitely
go
to
her
and
engage
with
the
outreach,
the
artist
channel
on
slack
yes,
and
if
you
are
interested
in
standard
yeah,
you
go
to
andre
to
me
and
so
in
under
chairs.
Those
will
be
the
three
always.
A
B
A
So
people
are
on
youtube
and
watching
us
later,
the
website
is
baseline,
hyphen
protocol
dot
org
go
to
the
website.
You'll
find
links
to
all
our
different
community
channels.
The
youtube
channel,
the
slack
channel
once
you've
joined
in
and
there's
a
lot
of
documentation
also,
which
is
available
now
and
anais,
is,
has
also
taken
up
the
mammoth
stars
to
bring
order
to
chaos
and
and
set
all
the
documentation
right.
A
So
so
now
there'll
be
a
clear
on-ramp
path
for
for
various
people
joining
us
to
be
it
sponsoring
organizations
or
beat
individual
developers.
Good
part
is
that
on
the
website
through
the
website,
you
you
then
go
to
various
channels.
I'll
also
be
posting
with.
You
know
how
to
how
do
people
get
involved
I'll
be
posting
on
on
linkedin
right
after
the
show
yeah,
you
guys
were
saying
something.
B
Yes,
I
was
about
to
say
that
those
onboarding
paths
are
not
clear
yet
on
the
on
the
website,
but
this
is
one
part
of
the
documentation
that
we
are
updating.
The
documentation
is
very
clear
and
there
are
a
lot
of
information,
but
we
want
to
make,
as
you
said,
easy
for
people
to
identify
based
on
my
profile
or
my
background,
what
would
be
the
most
appropriate
path
and
what
steps?
So
what
are
the.
C
B
For
me
to
engage
so
that's
something
that
hopefully
by
september,
I
would
say
end
of
september.
The
latest
will
be
available
clearly
yeah
on
the
website.
A
You
know
it's,
it's
yeah,
it's
the
aligning
of
the
starts
sure
honey.
So
so
what
is
your?
What
is
your
amaze?
What
is
your
recommendation
for
baselining
amongst
industries?
So
you,
you
are
yourself
a
consultant
you've
seen
finance
transformation,
project,
you've,
seen
digital
transformation
projects
so
which
ones
do
you
think
are,
are
clearly
ripe
for
baselining.
B
And
I
will
be
a
bit
provocative
here,
because
we
all
know
that
baselining
when
we
started
discussing
the
use
cases
is
amongst
different
companies.
B
But
what
we
are
seeing
with
conversation
is
that
large
enterprises
who
may
have
different
as
a
acquired
company
or
they
are
going
through
merger
wool
benefits,
and
I
think
that's
something
that
we
may
have
surprises
at
some
point
on
the
different
type
of
implementations
that
we
are
seeing.
So
yes,
obviously,
we
have
the
supply
chain,
procurement
and
those
use
cases,
but
I
would
expect
that
we
will
see
something
different.
B
D
B
A
B
Step
and
to
increase
adoption
would
be
once
understandable
is
published
to
have
the
right
tool
to
be
able
to
deploy
those
projects
in
an
efficient
way.
So
we
already
know
the
value
proposition,
but
we
need
to
really
look
at
the
practicality
of
managing
such
a
project.
B
It
involves
in
terms
of
resources,
skill
sets,
etc.
So,
in
terms
of
industries,
the
protocol
is
industry
agnostic.
So
I
would
say
whoever
is
listen.
Listening
if
you
do
see
a
use
case
where
there
is
a
cost
either
in
terms
of
financial
cost
efficiency
productivity,
where
the
discrepancy
between
the
data
of
your
organization
and
the
and
another
organization
that
your
company
is
collaborating
with.
B
D
So
the
case
use
case
that
you
were
talking
about.
Specifically,
I
guess
towards
this
is
the
sort
of
the
mergers
and
acquisitions
thing
where
you
want
to
have
you
know,
so
it's
venture
capital
as
well
right
when
you're
looking
to
either
invest.
You
know,
you're
looking
for
certain
collateral,
documentation,
etc,
so
compliance.
B
Yes,
is
that
that's
one
use
case?
That's
one
use
case
of
this
as
well
yeah,
oh,
it
could
be
that
you
have
different
legal
entities
and
that
needs
to
report
to
the
investor
company
and
they
have
they
may
not
use
the
same
erp
or
the
same
system
of
records.
If
you
look
at
crm
and
they
may
have
some
client
base,
which
are
overlapping
different
theorem
can
baselining
help
with
this.
You
know
those
are
the
questions
we
need
to
ask.
I'm
not
saying.
B
Oh,
let's
go
and
do
it
I'm
saying
that
if
the
pain
points
have
been
identified
and
baselining
as
a
technique
has
been
identified
as
a
potential
answer,
the
business
case
needs
to
be
developed
for
sure
yeah.
D
I've
got
a
question,
so
this
is
more
for
people
who
want
to
start
participating
going
forward
right.
Yes,
so
the
people
who
are
interested
so
the
people
I
think
on
this
forum-
are
volunteers.
Yes,
coming
from
different
organizations
in
your
particular
case.
How
much
time
do
you
put
in
so
that
people
can
know
what
it
is
to
participate
effectively
at
a
high
end?.
B
Okay,
so
factually
in
my
case
it's
a
bit,
maybe
specific.
So
because
I'm
part
of
the
mentor
team,
there
is
a
one
hour
call
every
two
weeks,
so
let's
say
two
hours
three
hours
a
month
depending
on
the
number
of
weeks,
because
I'm
part
of
the
tsc
team.
When
we
started
we
add
tfc
called
we're
one
hour
per
week,
then
we
move
to
every
two
weeks,
so
that's
another
and
because
I'm
part
of
the
standout
team
and
until
then,
because
we
really
really
wanted
to
push
things
through.
We
were
doing
it.
B
Every
week
is
an
an
hour,
so
I
would
say-
and
maybe
me
and
some
other
sam
stoke
andreas
people
who
contribute
the
most
from
that
point
of
view.
So
I
don't
know
if
we
we
are
not
the
average
contributors.
So
I
don't
know
if
it's
fair,
we
don't
want
to
scare
people
and
say
you
have.
You
will
have
so
much
work.
It's
not
true!
If
you
want
to
you,
can
if
it's
justified
for
you
based
on
commercial
interest
or
other
things,
the
research
and.
B
Or
whatever,
of
course,
do
it
100?
However,
an
individual
who
would
want
to
contribute
could
decide.
There
is
no
requirement,
except
if
they
are
part
of
the
tsc
team,
because
then
you
have
obligation
as
part
of
the
tfc
to
attend
to
contribute
to
vote
for
the
grants,
for
example,
or
if
there
are
events.
Of
course,
we
will
want
the
tfc
to
kind
of
what
should
be
the
event
and
all
of
those
things.
So
I
would
say
reasonably.
B
Yes,
I
would
say
fairly,
but
at
the
same
time,
if
we
look
at
from
the
standard
team,
because
this
is
the
one
that
I
a
lot
of
work-
we
do
working
sessions,
we
work
during
those
sessions.
The
goal
is
once
we
are
not
in
the
session.
There
is
meaningful
to
no
work.
That
has
to
be
done.
So,
of
course,
we
went
through
a
phase
at
the
beginning,
where
we
well,
we
had
to
find
out
what
is
it
that
we
are
going
to
do?
B
This
require
asynchronous
work
and
everybody
to
do
their
own
thing,
but
then
we
will
throw
cadence
and
we
had
the
frequency
right.
We
had.
The
right
set
of
the
agenda
was
clear,
so
we
could
do
that
now
that
we
are
reaching
the
end.
We
are
reaching
the
end.
We
went
through
our
face
like
okay.
We
need
to
do
some
reading
outside
of
the
hours
as
well.
So
I
think
it's
understanding
the
different
cycles
or
stages
once
the
standard
is
published.
B
We
wouldn't
expect
to
have
even
this
meeting
recruiting
on
a
weekly
basis,
for
what
I
wouldn't
be
too
clear.
What
we
want
to
achieve
unless
we
want
to
make
significant
improvements,
but
so
fast
it
means
that
we
wouldn't
have
done
our
job
properly
in
the
first
place,
no
so
yeah!
So
I
I
would
say
everybody
is
welcome.
You
can
put
as
little
or
as
much
effort
as
you
want
so.
A
Yeah
yeah
yeah.
Now
a
lot
of
people
ask
me
that
question
as
well,
when
I
talk
to
them
about
contributing
in
the
indian
community
as
well.
So
so
there
have
been
two
or
three
conversations
which
I
have
very
interesting.
You
know
I
I
you
know
it's
good,
that
we
are.
We
you
brought
this
up
on
so
so
one
thing
which
I
tell
people
is
that
yeah
it's
up
to
you,
it's
all
voluntary!
A
It's
all
open
source,
it's
up
to
you,
how
you
want
to
contribute
and
and
become
part
of
the
community,
and
and
where
do
you
exactly
want
to
sit?
You
want
to
be
in
one
of
the
organizing
communities
or
you
want
to
just
be
you
know
a
contributor
to
the
code
or
you
want
to
be
an
absolutely
silent
listener.
Part
of
the
community
just
keep
listening,
updates
and
and
then
use
it
whenever.
C
A
Is
useful
for
you
so
and
then
somebody
said
you
know
this
is
happening
on
saturdays
at
6
p.m.
My
evening
is
ruined.
My
my
stuff
is
gone
and
stuff
like
that.
No
you
know,
I've
got
a
all
sorts
of.
B
A
And
you
know
let
this
be
a
clear
message
to
those
those
people.
If
you
want
to
do
different
things
in
life,
you
have
to
act
differently.
You
know
this
is
all
of
us.
I
have
have
our
own
day
jobs.
All
of
us
do
things
which
which
earn
us
money,
but
this
is
earning
us.
A
status
is
earning
us
knowledge.
First,
a
great
thing.
A
C
C
B
For
opportunities
as
well,
if
you
are
employed
or
business
opportunity
in
terms
of
partnership
to
materialize,.
C
B
B
And
say
that
but
yeah
we
we
have
an
interest
and
motivation.
We
have
our
own
incentives
and.
A
A
Yeah
yeah
yeah,
so
so
hearing
all
this
you
know
I
I
once
had
to
move
the
show
from
weekdays.
You
know
I
was
deciding
fridays
earlier
and
then
moved
into
saturday,
but
then
I
said
you
know
nothing
doing
now.
We
have
to
stick
to
saturdays.
I
can
understand,
weekdays
may
be
busy
because
of
you
know
working.
You
know
your
working
conditions,
your
jobs
and
and,
of
course,
working
from
home,
has
its
own
pedals
people
sitting
at
home.
A
There
are
no
boundaries
between
the
work,
life
and
personal
life,
but
you
know
baseline
has
to
sit
somewhere
and,
and
it
is
doing
good
for
people.
You
know
who've
taken
on
this
journey
who
who
put
in
that
extra
effort?
So
so
I
think
you
know.
I
think
this
is
where
we
are.
This
is
this
is,
and
this
is
the
tipping
point
where
people
have
to
take
a
call
in
their
life
that
if
they
want
to
do
this
yeah,
this
is
a
life
decision
yeah.
I
I
call
it
like
that.
A
You
know
that's
one,
one
hour
of
your
life,
you
do
you
you're
the
best
judge
of
what
you
want
to
do
with
that.
One
hour
of
your
life,
you
want
to
spend
it
on
netflix
or
you
want
to
come
to
this
show
or
don't
even
come
to.
This
show
go
to
go
to
the
website
and
the
repo
and
and
then
start
coding.
You
know
whatever
suits
you,
but
but
you
know,
if,
if
people
have
to
make
a
difference
in
their
life,
they
have
to
do
some
things.
C
A
A
B
D
I
think
you
know
the
this
is
yeah
you're,
amazing,
exactly
right
right.
When
you
want
to
do
anything
and
you're,
you
know
new.
You
have
to
actually
spend
if
you're
going
to
learn
a
class.
You
got
to
do
it
outside
of
your
thing
right.
Yes,
here
the
there's
a
benefit
in
that
it's
all
recorded
for
you.
So
if
you
miss
a
session,
go
back,
get
build
the
context
and
go
to
the
next
session.
You
can't
get
it
easier
than
that
right.
A
D
A
And
you
know
people
are
spending
money
on
this.
You
know
the
zoom
subscriptions
and
everything.
So
everything
is
on
the
cloud
as
well
as
on
youtube.
People
can
go
back
anytime
and
and
go
through
it.
That's
a
great
point.
Mohan
you
brought
up
so
so
a
lot
of,
but
but
you
know
there
has
to
be
this.
This
sense
of
urgency
to
join
in
and
then
start
contributing
because
there
are
tons
of
people.
Who've
mentioned
various
things.
A
You
know
one
thing
which
you
know,
maybe,
as
a
group
we
can
address
this
today.
People
are
waiting
for
companies
to
join
and
companies
are
waiting
for
people
to
join.
Now,
that's
a
conundrum
which
we
see
not
just
in
india,
but
otherwise,
otherwise
in
the
west
as
well.
You
know.
The
first
group
that
we
came
up
with
was
highly
motivated.
People
who
came
in
you
know
you
look
at
john's,
shows
from
the
beginning.
A
They
were
like
a
couple
of
guys
showing
up
and
and
and
having
fun
on
on
those
calls,
and
then
eventually
people
started
showing
interest.
Eventually
people
joined
in
as
sponsors.
So
so
so
what
do
you
think?
You
know
what?
What's
our
what's
our
message
to
this
to
these
guys
who
are
waiting
for
companies
to
join
and
companies
waiting
for
people
to
join,
how
do
they?
How
should
they
look
at
it.
B
I
wanted
to
say
that
a
lot
of
companies
will
not
work
in
public
like
this.
We
are
very
lucky
to
have
the
flagship
coca-cola,
but
most
companies
will
not
do
that
will
so
it's
having
an
understanding
as
well
of
how
do
we
assess
the
work
that
is
being
done
because
those
are
private
profit
generating
cooperation?
B
There
is
work
and
there
is
competition
and
things
like
that.
So
it's
having
the
understanding
it
all
starts
from
seeing
the
value,
the
value,
proposition
and
understanding
the
work
that
is
being
done
and
when
there
are
a
demonstration
and
the
use
cases
from
the
big
company
attending
those
to
see
that
things
are
happening
in
production,
so
things
if
it
happens
for
this
large
organization,
it
is
happening
for
another
large
organization.
You
may
not.
A
B
You
may
see
it,
but
it
is
happening.
So
it's
understanding
what
is
not
being
said
and
it's
open
source.
Yes,
this
is
why
we
are
having
this
very
open
conversation,
but.
D
B
A
D
My
perspective
on
this
is
you
know,
you
have
a
lot
of
blockchain
implementations,
you
know
addressing
either
some
applications
vertical
applications
or
some
hardware
infrastructure.
Some
of
those
baseline
blockchain
implementations
go
nowhere
right.
We
know
that,
since
for
2015
percentage,
since
2017
there've
been
a
number
of
ones,
this
is
different.
This
is
a
standard
that
is
supported
by
the
big
players.
Right
I
mean
you've
got
the
ethereum.
You've
got
consensus,
you've
got
you
know,
microsoft,
so
all
coming
from
different
perspectives.
D
A
D
Waste
their
time,
okay,
so
and
so,
both
their
their
investing
time.
The
people
who
are
providing
the
implementation
are
investing
time
and
both
parties
won't
waste
time.
I
mean
bottom
line
the
therefore,
given
that
I
look
at
this
very
simply,
as
think
of
it
as
a
startup.
This
is
a
startup
that
actually
has
legs.
If
you
get
in
and
if
you're
a
developer,
you
now
become
a
early
developer.
D
Building
things
around
this.
You
know
and
and
therefore,
when
this
thing
picks
up,
you
are
now
really
skilled
in
this
platform.
It's,
like
you
know
when
you
say
when
python
came
about
in
the
late
90s,
if
you're
one
of
the
early
guys,
you
are
hot
commodity
right
so
from
a
developer
from
a
person
involved
in
the
standards.
D
What's
the
scope
of?
This
is
what
the
opportunities
I
mean
is
you're.
Talking
about.
You
know,
business
cases
right
use
cases.
There
are
use
cases
that
are
going
to
be
documented.
Those
are
like
someone
is
throwing
out.
Startup
ideas
there
yeah,
essentially
that
so
I
think,
if
you
don't
get
involved,
you
gain
nothing.
If
you
get
involved
in
such
a
small
contribution
of
time,
there's
so
much
potential.
A
A
Absolutely
absolutely
so
mark,
and
I
we
we
were
discussing
on
one
of
our
episodes,
that
what
are
these
base?
What
are
these
blockchain
projects
doing,
sitting
on
shelves
and
and
and
who's
who's?
The
custodian
of
those
those
blockchain
projects
which
did
not
yield
a
lot
of
value
for
corporates
were
invested
in
them
in
the
first
place.
So
so
those
can
be
picked
up,
revived
and
looked
at,
for
you
know,
is
this
something
which
is
which
is
implementable
using
baseline
and
what,
if
we
now
realize
the
value?
A
So
a
lot
of
you
know
for
companies
a
lot
of
that.
A
lot
of
that
dead
weight
could
be.
You
know
salvaged
in
in
some
sense,
so
for
a
lot
of
that
for
the
so
that's
the
value
I
see
for
companies
being
early
doctors
for
individual,
of
course,
man.
You
articulated
very
very
correctly
that
you
know
if
you
want
to
be
ahead
of
the
curve,
you
want
to
be
the
first
one
in
the
line
to
to
attract
the
best
of
employers.
A
You
know
people
have
to
be
adept
with
technologies
like
then
this
is,
and
this
is
initiative
which
is
not
going
to
fail.
You
know
just
look
at
the
size
of
companies
involved
in
this
and
an
investment
which
is
gone,
so
it's
not
just
the
100k
which
has
gone
into
grants.
It's
also
the
collective
time
investment
that
all
of
us
are
putting
in,
and
that
is
huge.
That
is
even
beyond
way.
You
know
orders
of
magnitude
way
beyond
100k,
so
so
so
that's
the
that's.
The
value
people
should
be
looking
at.
D
And
I'll
throw
one
more
thing:
john
wolpert
is
the
architect
for
hyperledger
fabric,
which
is
the
first
blockchain
for
enterprises,
so
he's
the
guy
who's,
like
you
know,
sort
of
pushing
the
cart
here
right
I
mean
everybody
else
is
also,
but
he's
a
guy
who's.
Pushing
the
cart
here
so
take
heart
that
the
guy
knows
hyperledger
fabric,
which
everybody
knows
all
the
enterprises
first
glance
at
blockchain.
So
he's
saying
forget
that
that's
old
hat
this
is
going
to
go
right,
so
yeah.
A
Therefore,
those
players
who
succeed
some
of
them
may
have
a
use
case
of
of
implementing
baseline
with
hyperledger,
and
that
is
a
notion
which
we
want,
which
we
want
to
put
out
in
the
world.
I
think
that
is
something
which
not
a
lot
of
people
are
still
realizing
that
this
is
not
competing
with
hyperledger
or
ethereum.
This
is
augmenting
those
implementations,
yep
and
is
you
want
to
say
something.
B
A
B
C
C
A
B
Are
if
you
are
into
marketing
business
development-
and
you
have
worked
with
in
large
enterprise
reach
the
outreach
team?
So
it's
not
only
the
developers
because
we
keep
saying
issuer
developer
comes
no.
This
is
a
very
exclusive.
I
would
go
as
far
as
to
say
from
any
business
analyst
to
the
enterprise
architect.
A
B
Most
technology
profiles,
but
also
the
pure
business
side.
You
have
a
problem
that
you
need
your
you
know.
Your
team
has
to
face
reconciliating
data
again
and
again
and
again
and
again
and
again
or
having
those
manual
processes
going
back
and
forth
with
two
or
three
partners
all
the
time.
It
doesn't
matter.
If
you
don't
know
what
blockchain
is,
I.
D
B
D
D
So
that
is
the
similarity
to
in
my
mind
to
to
to
to
to
this
in
the
baselining,
in
that
that
is
dealing
with
certain
documents.
There's
so
many
other
things
that
are
going
outside
of
documents
right.
The
documents
refer
to
some
set
of
actions
that
happen.
The
documents
don't
capture
those
actions.
You
don't
know
if
those
actions
were
done
right.
The
documents
are
promises.
D
Sometimes
they
are
subsequent,
you
know
attestations,
but
they
don't
really.
Trans
correspond
very
tightly
to
actual
processes.
Now
imagine
docusign
for
actual
work.
That's
done.
I
did
this,
you
did
that,
etc,
etc.
That's
what
baseline
is
so
if
you
are
a
believer
in
e-signature,
this
is
e-signature.
If
you
want
to
call
it
that
of
all
systems
of
record
signing
their
thing
saying
I
did
this,
I'm
signing
it,
it's
not
about
humans,
signing
it.
It's
about
processes
signing
themselves.
A
B
It's
I
think
it's
yeah
yeah.
C
Well,
no,
and
it's
a
really
interesting
way
of
putting
it,
because
we
were
guilty
of
this
within
the
blockchain
space
to
where
we
were
looking
at
it
as
a
technological
puzzle
to
be
solved,
and
it's
we
we
were
incorrect.
I
mean
we
were
flat
wrong,
that
you
know
it's
a
business
case
or
a
real
world
application
to
be
realized,
and
when
you
look
at
about
what
it
is,
you
want
to
do
and
the
why
you
want
to
do
it.
You
start
focusing
on
the
how
yeah
I
mean
it's.
C
Basically,
you
know
if
it
is
intuitive,
if
it
is
seamless,
you
know
without
having
to
explain
a
lot
of
concepts
and
introduce
a
whole
host
of
new
vocabulary.
C
A
C
D
I
mean
mark
to
your
point.
I
I've
been
floundering
in
the
same
thing
that
you're
talking
about
lost
to
the
technology
right,
but
I
remember,
I
remember
john
always
kind
of
just
referring
to
the
hash.
He
could
just
hash
it
and
he's
talking
about.
In
fact
he
referred
to
dark
side
quite
some
meetings
ago.
It
didn't
settle
in
till
today.
That's
what
I'm
trying
to
say
for
me.
The
epiphany
came
today
after
all
this
time
message.
C
Yeah
yeah
and
you're
seeing
a
lot
of
people
that
are
really
you
know,
blockchain
for
a
long
time
was
the
you
know
the
shiny
new
penny,
everybody
wanted
one,
and
you
know
even
myself,
we
would
have
people
that
would
come
up
and
say
we
want
a
blockchain.
You
know,
can
you
help
us
out
and
I'm
like?
What
do
you
want
to
use
it
for
and
they
would
be
like
we
don't
know?
C
You
know
it
doesn't
it's
in
the
background.
You
don't
have
any
ideas,
it's
really
only
relevant.
You
know
whenever
you
need
to
have
query
or
if
you
need
to
have
dispute
resolution
or
if
you
have
audit
yeah,
otherwise
you're
not
going
to
know
so
I
mean
you
know
if
there
were
any
implementations
that
had
come
in
and
said:
yes,
we're
we're
now
blockchaining.
C
D
Wouldn't
you
reckon
that
ethereum
was
probably
very
boring
back
when
you
know
like
six
seven
years
ago
I
mean:
what
did
it
really
do?
Nothing?
I
mean
it.
Didn't
it
sat
in
a
long
time
right
I
mean
today
it
is
what
it
is.
It
just
takes
a
breakthrough
application
right.
The
nfts
have
kicked
it
into
gear
when
stock
price
you
know,
took
off
right.
So
it's
just
that.
B
Application
is
a
key
word.
We
need
to
apply
we're
just
not
having
technology
for
the
sake
of
technology
and
of
course
there
are
a
lot
of
technology
for
technology's
sake
from
an
innovation
point
of
view,
but
because,
as
mark
said,
we
are
talking
about
network
based
learning
is
relevant
if
there
are
at
least
two
companies
working
together.
So
it's
not.
A
B
For
vanity
projects,
that's
not
how
we
want
to
approach
it
at
all,
so
focusing
on
application
problem,
solving
cost
reduction
and
all
of
those
things
all
developing
new
revenue
opportunities
on
top
of
baselining.
B
So
within
a
network,
if
we
have
a
key
operator,
those
are
the
use
cases
that
I
think
the
next
step,
and
I
think
a
lot
will
be
done
in
q4-
will
help
a
lot,
the
community
and
the
future.
You
know
customers
of
the
different
companies
involved.
A
Yeah
absolutely
absolutely
well.
I
think
that
was
a
pretty
amazing
discussion
we
had
today.
I
I
think
you
know,
as
we
get
ready
for
the
for
the
major
releases
and
and
the
upcoming
events.
I
think
it's
also
important
to
keep
clearing
up.
You
know.
All
of
these
are
these
small
points
which
may
be
holding
people
back
from
participating,
and
then
you
know
them
thinking
yeah.
A
You
know
it's
just
another
blockchain
protocol,
I
think
where
we
really
get
mixed
up
with
different
blockchain
protocols
is
because
we've
got
this
and
and
people
are
not
used
to
seeing
a
lot
of
protocol
stuff
happening
online
and
people
promoting
it
and
stuff
like
that,
unless
it's
a
blockchain
protocol
where
they
are
trying
to
promote
some
coin,
you
know
tons.
D
A
Coins
are
built
like
that,
so
I
think
so
I
think
that's
where
we're
getting
mixed
up
and
then
that's
what
you
know.
I
sort
of
keep
pushing
in
every
episode
that
we
do
here
that
you
know
it's
not
it's
not
it's
not
competing
with
blockchain
protocols.
It's
it's
something
which
is
next
level,
which
is
something
which
is
going
to
be
bringing
classic
systems
if
you,
if
you
will
call
them
classic
systems
now,
starting
to
interface
with
blockchains.
A
You
know
those
classic
systems
of
record.
How
do
they
get
transformed?
You
know,
overnight
into
into
you
know:
consensus
control,
state
machines,
how.
D
C
B
And
if
we
think
of
it
that
way
and
we're
positioning
to
both
sea
level
technical
profile.
B
And
how
can
you
integrate?
Oh,
we
can
integrate
with
your
network
of
partners
and
we
follow
the
same.
I
would
say
approach
that
system
integration
has
been
for
x
years.
So
not
we
need
to
demystify
and
we
need
to
remove
the
hype,
because
I
would
fairly
say
that
it's
not
justified.
We
want
to
really
go
there
and
deliver
value.
A
A
A
A
Be
secondary,
yes,
absolutely
absolutely
well!
Thank
you
so
much.
I
think
we
are
the
top
of
the
hour
any
closing
any
closing
thoughts,
any
parting
thoughts
guys
or
are
we
good?
Should
we
play
the
music
again.
D
A
Okay
with
that
everybody,
thank
you
so
much
for
making
it
today.
I
am
simrad
signing
off.
Do
join
us
next
week,
again
six
o'clock
at
six
o'clock
on
youtube
every
saturday.
Thank
you
so
much.