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Official office hours of the Baseline Protocol for the community in India.
Hosted by: Samrat Kishor
#baselineprotocol #baselineinindia #B2BBlockchain
A
A
A
Hey
everyone
hi.
This
is
sumrat
and
I
welcome
you
all
to
the
baseline
show
in
india
with
me.
I
have
mark
haddle,
he's
been
probably
with
me
on
every
show,
since
the
time
we
are
doing
this
so
baseline,
show
in
india
is
the
official
office
hours
for
the
baseline
protocol.
It's
a
community
driven
open
source
protocol
for
state
synchronization
being
developed
completely
open
source,
and
the
founding
members
are
some
of
the
big
ones.
A
Consensus,
cny,
microsoft
and
you
know,
as
we
talked
there,
are
more
sponsors
joining
the
group,
so
do
hop
on
the
baseline
bus
as
we
call
it,
and
we
do
these
shows
every
saturday
at
6
00
p.m.
This
is
for
inviting
guests
from
various
industries.
They
come
here,
talk
about
their
data
and
system,
synchronization
problems
and-
and
we
try
and
find
those
silos
which
baseline
protocol
can
potentially
address
this
has
so
this
baseline
protocol
at
times
is
taken
in
conjunction
with
blockchain.
A
So
this
is
not
a
blockchain
protocol.
You
know
here
is
something
which
you
know
today.
You
know
mark.
Let's
use
this
time
today.
So
we've
had
the
speaker
emergency.
We
had
a
fantastic
speaker
coming
on
board
this
week,
but
yesterday,
when
they
had
some
emergency
and
and
some
family
member
emergency
so
could
not
make
it.
But
you
know
we'll
use
this
time,
we'll
use
the
spot
and
we'll
talk
about
stuff.
A
You
know
there's
a
lot
of
stuff
happening
in
the
baseline
community
and
you
know
mark-
and
I
both
are
positioned
in
a
way
to
talk
about.
What's
going
on
within
the
baseline
community,
so
yeah
as
I
was
saying,
this
is
oftentimes
confused
with
being
a
blockchain
protocol,
especially
because
of
you
know
it
originating
from
the
companies
and
the
guys
involved
being
the
forefathers
so
to
say
of
blockchain
protocols,
but
yeah.
This
is
truly
the
bridge.
B
Go
ahead
actually
just
just
scratching
my
nose
but
yeah.
No,
it's
it's!
It's!
You
make
a
very
interesting
point
that
you
know
a
lot
of
people.
You
know
think
of
blockchain
as
really
the
the
the
main
technology
here
and
it's
not.
C
B
A
lot
of
us
have
been
in
blockchain
for
the
past
five
or
six
years,
really
as
it
started
to
gain
traction
and
become
a
lot
more
widespread,
or
at
least
well
known,
right,
and
you
know,
I
think,
with
every
technology.
You're
gonna
have
an
evolution
of
of
the
ideas.
B
As
far
as
you
know,
at
first
we
looked
at
blockchain
as
the
single
source
of
truth
and
that
it
was
going
to
really
displace
a
lot
of
the
current
architecture
so
that
all
of
the
participants,
you
know
everybody-
had
the
continuous,
updated
copy
of
the
ledger,
whether
it's
record
keeping
or
whether
it's
digital
assets,
everybody
you
had
complete
transparency
and
complete
visibility,
and
at
first
that
sounds
great,
but
in
practice
that
creates
a
big.
You
know
a
big
problem,
especially
from
a
security
standpoint.
Also
from
a
government
standpoint
I
mean
you.
B
Might
there
are
certain
people
you
don't
want
to?
You
know
necessarily
know
everything
that's
going
on,
and
so
really
you
start
to
look
at
instead
of
instead
of
it
being
the
dominant
architecture.
B
B
The
only
thing
that
is
put
on
a
blockchain
is
that
proof,
and
that
proof
is
then
encrypted
as
well,
and
you
know
it's
it's
highly
secure
from
a
practical
way,
because
if
someone
were
to
using
brute
force,
provided
they
would
have
the
horsepower
to
even
be
able
to
be
successful,
the
only
thing
they
would
get
would
be
the
plain
text
of
the
proof
which
really
isn't
useful.
So.
A
B
B
I'm
just
saying
that
I
can
prove
and
have
on
the
blockchain
that
proof
that
my
record-keeping
match
is
yours,
so
yeah
at
the
same
time,
you're
not
you're,
using
your
existing
systems
of
record
you're
using
your
your
same
process,
environment
and
business
logic,
and
what
this
is
doing
is
that
gives
you
the
confidence
to
know
that
your
record
keeping
matches
that
of
your
counterparty,
and
you
know
with
the
added
advantage
that
you
did
not
have
to
reveal
anything
to
be
able
to
prove
that.
A
Absolutely
absolutely,
I
think
those
were
the
those
were
the
shiny
balls
that
people
went
after
when
we
were
all
working
on
blockchain
innovation
projects,
and
then
you
know,
eventually
we
were
able
to
analyze
the
potential
value
to
be
realized
and
and-
and
so,
but
I
think
it's
all
it's
all
part
of
the
game
right.
So
that's
that's
something
which
you
know
we
often
times
talk
about
when
we
are
doing
our
go
to
market
meetings
and
by
the
way
you
know,
let's
welcome
two
more
guests
who
just
joined
us,
hi,
sangeeth
hi,
welcome.
A
Welcome
to
the
show
I
think
you're
joining
us
for
the
first
time.
Oh
he
just
he
just
he
just
took
off
somewhere
and
hi
mohan.
Thank
you
so
much
for
making
it
crisis
situation
and
yeah.
Here
you
come
so
thanks
thanks
so
much
for
making
it
so
yeah
mark
back
to
back
to
our
conversation.
So
we
were
talking
about
why
people
have
been
slightly,
I
would
not
say
confusing,
but
mixing
it
up
with
with
blockchain
and
yeah.
We
were
presenting
our
views
on
what
was
happening
with
blockchain
and
where
does
it?
B
Well,
I
I
think
right
now,
blockchain
really
is
kind
of
a
it's
a
term
that
certainly
has
a
lot
of
baggage
attached
to
it,
just
because
and
even
from
the
beginning,
because
you
had
different
flavors
of
blockchain,
you
had
private,
you
had
public
and
each
has
different
advantages
and
and
its
own
shortcomings.
Neither
one
at
the
time
I
think
was
viable
as
a
solution.
B
If
you
looked
at
blockchain
being
the
entire
remedy
for
whatever
problem
that
it
is,
and
it's
just
no,
you
want
to
have
it
as
a
certain
component
of
of
of
the
problem
that
that
you're
trying
to
improve
upon-
and
you
know
it's
it's
very
common.
When
you're
you
know
presenting
the
idea
to
someone
you
just
the
minute,
you
mention
the
word
blockchain
you
go
down
a
rabbit,
hole
or
you've
even
lost
them.
B
You
know
it's,
it's
become
a
word,
that's
become
fairly
happy,
just
you
know
overused,
and
you
know
we
remember
when
blockchain
really
started,
you
know
generating
a
lot
of
widespread
awareness.
You
know
everybody
said
if
blockchain's
going
to
solve
world
hunger
and
make
us
all
taller
and
harder-
and
you
know
there
was
there,
wasn't
anything
blockchain
couldn't
do
and
yeah
you
know
once
that
comes
back
down
to
earth,
you
start
to
realize:
okay,
well,
what
process
environment
are
we
going
to
be
using?
B
B
You
know
you're
having
to
deal
with
people
that
are,
you
know
in
different
different
organizations
that
still
need
to
work
and
well
then
it
only
worked
if
everybody
joined
the
blockchain
and
not
everybody
is
going
to
line
up
and
join
the
blockchain,
and
so
you
know
because
there
were
legitimate
concerns.
As
far
as
you
know,
security
data,
privacy,
governance
or
you
know
you
just
didn't
want.
You
know
your
counterparties,
knowing
yeah.
B
You
know
that
was
going
on,
because
you
know
you
could
kind
of
figure
out
certain
business
intelligence
on
your
counterparties,
just
through
the
interactions.
A
B
B
And
you
know,
as
a
you
know,
dominant
dominant
portion
of
the
architecture
that
just
wasn't
going
to
be
practical
and
so,
but
at
the
same
time,
there's
a
lot
of
value
that
blockchain
technology
can
bring
to
the
table
in
the
form
of
middleware,
and
so
we're
starting
this
right
now
with
the
prolific
proliferation
of
d5,
to
where
you
and
and
nfts
non-fungible
tokens,
and
all
of
that
is
made
possible
only
the
you
know
by
by
two
things.
B
You
know
blockchain,
of
course,
as
that
immutability
and
transparency,
but
also
you've
got
smart
contracts
before
you
start.
You
know
certain
business
processes
and
you're
starting
to
see
these
evolve.
Even
more.
You
know,
smart
contracts
was
just
a
self-executing.
You
know
line
of
code
at
one
point.
Well
now
you
know
there
is
the
capability
that
has
really
been
realized,
that
you
know
they
can
do
confidential
computing
off
chain
and
then
also
you're
going
to
have
dynamic
data
when
it
comes
to
smart
contracts.
B
Now
that
that's
you
know
being
allowed
through
through
oracle's
and
also
as
part
of
you
know,
that
grew
out
of
out
of
smart
contracts
was
verified
randomness
to
where
you
could
prove
interesting,
interesting
you're,
having
a
an
auction
or,
if
you're,
having
a
a
contest,
and
you
want
to
prove
that
there
has
been
no
stuffing
in
the
ballot
box
or
you
know,
scales
or
anything
like
that
from
people
that
might
be.
You
know
you
want
to
have
that
and
prove
that
verified
randomness
yeah,
that's
also
been
so.
B
A
Something
more
appropriate
so
true,
and
I
think
you
you
brought
up
some
really
interesting
perspectives
on
confidential
computing
and
verifying
transference.
You
know
mohan,
you
know
at
this
stage
I'd
like
to
invite
you
in
and
sort
of,
I
hope,
you're,
not
driving.
You
know
you.
A
A
B
C
That
was
like
there's
great
points
mark
actually
I'd
like
to
hear
more
about
randomness.
You
know
that
I
mean
just
to
have
more
of
a
thought
on
randomness.
You
know
just
to
dig
deeper
into
that,
because
I
wanted
I'm
curious
to
find
out
more
of,
for
example,
how
we
can
bring
you
know
baseline
into
elections,
for
example,.
C
But
yeah
before
that,
what
I
wanted
to
touch
upon
was
two
things
that
mark
brought
up,
which
is
the
erp
and
with
one
thing
that
mark
brought
up
which
is
erp
and
talk
about
how
I,
what
I
think
is
the
positioning
and
the
challenges
blockchain
has
and
how
one
how
they
should
be
positioned.
If
you
look
at
erp
and
nfts
right,
erp
is.
C
A
C
Kahuna
they
had
to
lift
with
erp
and
they
sort
of
say
if
you're
trying
to
approach
the
end
users
and
the
customers.
Sometimes
it's
tough,
like
it's
like
saying
you
know
going
to
another
analogy:
it's
like
messaging
right.
So
if
you
went
when
and
I've
been
selling
messaging
for
you
know,
you
were
selling
messaging
for
years,
and
you
know
when
you
go
into
a
bank
or
whatever
they
don't
they
don't
care,
it
doesn't
really
matter,
and
you
talk
about
that,
they
get
lost.
They
think
it's
too
much.
It's
it's
disruption
of
business.
C
They
don't
understand
it.
The
point
is
it's
necessary
but
necessary
somewhere
else.
So
the
question
here
is:
if
you
have
an
underlying
platform
that
you're,
using
like
erp
or
or
some
trading
floor
software
and
you
put
in
the
messaging
underneath
that
and
achieves
a
goal,
and
you
can
express
the
goal
that
that
you
can
achieve
out
of
using
this
technology,
then
they
buy
into
that.
But
again,
the
question
is:
who
is
your
customer?
Is
it
the
platform
vendor
or
the
end
user?
And
I
think
that
may
be
where
the
blockchain?
C
That
was
the
problem
right,
you're
kind
of
just
pushing
everything
as
though
you
know
you
know
hey.
This
is
blockchain,
you
should
use
it,
and
people
are
kind
of
concerned
about.
You
know,
start
thinking
about
problems
and
what
it
is
and
what
it
isn't
and
so
on,
and
I
think
nfts
do
it.
When
you
do
like
nfts,
you
have
residuals
guaranteed,
you
know,
so
whoever
gets
buys
it
from
you
and
how
whoever
they
sell
it
to
get
residuals.
That's
it.
C
Everybody
understands
that
they
don't
care
what
you
use
underneath
it,
and
so
nfts
today
are
not
pushing
blockchain
as
they're
pushing
the
value
of
blockchain.
I
think
that's.
What
we
need
to
do
is
push
it
to
the
right
audience
and
push
in
any
language
that
needs
to
trickle
into
the
end
users
it
trickles
in
in
their
speak
yeah.
That's
all.
I
have
to
say.
A
A
You
know
there
are
people
watching
us
on
youtube
and
there
will
be
people
watching
us
in
future.
So
I
want
you
guys
to
to
come
to
our
website
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protocol.org
and
also
subscribe
to
our
youtube
channel
and
smash
the
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button
so
that
you
keep
getting
our
updates
and
yeah
mark
sorry
go
ahead.
B
Oh
no,
I
mean
nfps
are
really
a
good
illustration
of
that
evolution
of
blockchain,
where
you're
only
using
it
where
it
plays
to
its
strengths.
You
know
within
nfts,
non-fungible
tokens.
You
know
the
problem
that
you
know
you
would
have
under
you
know
a
non-blockchain
type
architecture.
Is
you
don't
really
know
that
you
know
you
have
the
one
golden
copy.
B
You
have
the
one
singular
representation
of
whatever
it
is
you're
going
to
try
and
tokenize
whether
it's
going
to
be
a
digital
asset,
or
you
know
proof
of
ownership
or
something,
and
what
that
does
is
uses
blockchain's
capabilities
of
immutability
and
tamper
resistant
and
what
bloc?
What
that
allows?
It
gives
you
a
digital
asset
singularity
and
it
gives
it
permanence
so
that
you
know
that
you
have
the
one
and
it
hasn't
been
copied
and
you
know,
replicated
and
sold
multiple
times.
B
You
know
that
there's
the
one
true
copy
and
only
blockchain
capability
can
achieve
that.
B
A
I
think
you
know
that's
what
brings
this
to
life,
the
the
singularity
and
permanence,
so
so
yeah,
absolutely
amazing
stuff,
and
you
know,
tell
us
a
little.
You
know
tell
us
your
perspective
when
you
were
in
each
atlanta.
So
what
were
the
discussions
around
permanence
and
and
and.
B
There
was
really
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
excitement
around.
You
know
the
whole
concept
of
tokenization
to
where
you
know
these
you're,
basically
giving
it.
You
know,
you're,
creating
a
token
you're,
basically
locking
up
the
value
in
a
representation
that
it
can
be
that
that
can
be
exchanged
for
value.
You
know,
if
you
look
at
it
from
a
banking
standpoint,
you
can't,
you
know,
lend
off
a
pdf
file.
B
You
need
to
know
that
there's
representation
of
something
that
you
know
that
can
be
counted
upon
and
you
know,
can
then
represent
the
physical
aspect
of
it.
You
know
when
it
comes
to
trading
when
it
comes
to
buying
and
exchanging,
and
so
and
that's
really
what
led
to
you
know
nfps,
because
you
know
they're
starting
to
tokenize,
artwork
and
they're,
starting
to
tokenize
sports
collectibles,
which
then
opens
up
the
door
for
fractional
ownership
of
something
which
yeah.
B
When
you
start
to
have
a
high
value
item
you
can,
then
you
know,
have
a
fraction,
you
know
part
of
an
ownership,
and
you
don't
do
that
just
for
the
utility
of
it,
so
that
you
can
actually
say
you
have
a
rare
piece
of.
I
don't
know
a
handbag
or
something.
Oh,
I
get
to
use
it
on.
You
know
every
third
weekend,
you
know
it's,
no,
it's
it's!
B
Basically
something
that
is
going
to
be
held,
or
at
least
maybe
you
know
found
to
where
you
can
then
sell
your
fraction
for
more
than
what
you
paid
for
it
and
thank
the
profit,
and
so.
A
Yeah
yeah
yeah.
No,
I
I
met
somebody
in
india
who
was
working
with
a
team
they
and,
and
they
are
creating
scotch
and
they're,
creating
nfts
linked
to
portraits
of
scotch,
and
you
can
buy
it
now
and
then
you
can
claim
it
later
so
very
interesting,
stuff
happening
and
applications
evolving
in
that
area.
Definitely
so,
and-
and
you
know
if,
if
at
all
bring
in
you
know,
let's
try
and
bring
this
back
to
baseline,
so
how
is
how
is
baseline
augmenting?
A
And
you
know,
let's
spend
maybe
a
couple
of
hours,
a
couple
of
minutes
and
maybe
five
minutes
on
on?
What's
what's
blockchain
doing
and
what's
baseline
doing
in
the
in
the
enterprise,
you
know-
maybe
maybe
let's
just
talk
about
that.
So
yes,
one
on
one
side
is
the
the
tokenization
and
nfps
nftization
of
I
would
say,
but
you
know
that's
one
side
where,
where
I'm
saying
you
know
there
is,
there
is
new
opportunities
to
be
explored
for
the
enterprises,
and
then
there
are
these
conventional
businesses
that
the
that
the
enterprise
are
involved
in.
A
So
so
what
happens
to
those
guys-
and
you
know
how
is
how
is
blockchain
and
and
baseline?
In
your
view,
you
know,
I
have,
I
have
a
view
and
of
course,
we've
been
synchronizing
on
that.
So
so,
let's
give
you
know,
because
today's
show
is
different.
So
let's
give
out
people
these
talking
points
on
and
and
convincing
points
you
know
these
are.
These
are
the
points
that
they
can
sell
to
their
management.
A
B
Exactly
no,
when
the
when
it
comes
to
the
enterprise
setting,
you
know,
you've
got
you
know
any
any.
B
You
know
even
smaller
medium
sized
enterprise
is
going
to
have
you
know
within
their
it
architecture,
just
really
a
landscape
of
different
platforms
and
software
packages
that
are
either
incompatible
or
at
least
non-communicative
with
each
other
you're
going
to
accounting
is
going
to
have
their
software,
and
that
will
probably
also
work
on
a
payroll
platform,
and
then
logistics
is
going
to
have
its
dispatch
and
there's
going
to
be
warehousing
is
going
to
have
inventory.
All
of
these
are
different,
separate
silos
that
are
maintained
by
their
own
gatekeepers.
A
B
You
are
a
administrator
or
someone
that
is
really
tasked
with
needing
to
for
your
own
reporting
purposes.
You
need
to
pull
data
from
all
the
different
areas
and
stuff.
You
know
it
can
be
a
really
slow
process,
and
you
know,
and
within
the
enterprise
making
sure
that
everybody
is
at
least
on
the
same
page
and
using
that
blockchain
element.
B
As
that
proof
that
you
know
that
you
are
synced
up
with
all
of
your
other
counterparties,
and
you
know
you
don't
have
to
spend
a
lot
of
time
you
know
having
to
make
having
to
reconcile
and
make
sure
that
you
have
the
most.
You
know
up-to-date
piece
of
data,
and
you
know
it's
really.
One
of
those
things
to
where
you
know
being
able
to
access
that.
You
know
in
in
real
time
is
actually
you
know
quite
compelling
and
something
that's
really.
B
It
sounds
it's
simple,
but
it's
not
easy
to
try
and
you
know
achieve
it
and
what
baseline
does
is
it?
You
know
makes
it
a
lot
more
easy
to
do
it
because,
instead
of
putting
an
entirely
different
layer
onto
the
entire
problem,
you're,
basically
just
tying
it
all
together
and
proving
it-
and
it
almost
seems
so
you
know
so
so
simple
yet
yet
elegant
that
something
like
that
can
work,
but
I
mean
really
that's
that
that's
how
it
works
right
now
and
where
you
start
to
uncover
a
lot
more
value
is
external.
B
You
know
when
you
have
external
counterparties,
you
know
you're
going
to
have
suppliers
and
you're
going
to
have
shippers,
and
you
know
any
other
number
of
people
outside
of
your
organization
that
you
don't
really
have
any
type
of
operational
control
over
and
you
know,
but
you
don't
want
to
reveal
your
data
or
you
can't
because
of
you
know:
privacy,
compliance,
privacy
and
compliance
regulations.
B
You
know
how
do
you?
Actually?
You
know
you
need
to
be
synchronized.
How
do
you
achieve
that?
And
you
know
right
now,
it's
done
through
messaging,
but
it's
still
a
friction
process,
because
the
other
person,
you
know
kind
of
goes
back
and
forth
to
say,
okay.
Well
I
have
this.
Do
you
have
that?
Yes
and
then
and
forth-
and
if
you
have
you
know,
maybe
a
document
or
a
checklist
or
a
flow
chart,
or
something
that
has
a
lot
of
elements
to
it,
absolutely
are
comfortable
enough
that
you
are
close
enough.
B
So
you
have
that
confidence
built
in
that
what
your,
if
your
records,
are
baseline
with
your
counterparties.
You
know
that
they
are
on
the
same
page,
so.
C
C
C
It
was
initiated,
and
similarly,
when
it
completes
the
you
know
on
a
certain
and
they
will
have
daily
completions
of
whatever
shipments
are
done
right
now,
the
there's
a
if,
if
that
is
a
good
way
to
pre
sort,
if
it's
a
good
use
case,
how
do
you
kind
of
prevent
the
gas
fees
from
escalating
because
there's
so
much
reads
and
rights
or
or
writes
particularly
into
the
public
blockchain,
and
so
therefore,
it
no
longer
is
just
being
used
selectively,
but
it's
been
used
for
a
lot
of
you
know.
C
You
know
status
updates
if
you
will
and
therefore
it
just
tends
to
bloat
the
gas
fees
for
every
other
application.
That's
on
the
public
blockchain.
How
do
you?
How
do
you
deal
with
that
issue?.
B
Okay,
well
and
right
now
that
we
already
have
a
within
the
protocol
we
work
on,
so
it's
called
base
ledger
and
what
that
does
is
through
hedging
and
through
you
know,
aggregating,
and
you
know
basically
kind
of
massaging
the
batching
of
the
techniques.
You
can
actually
keep
the
gas
price.
I
mean
very,
very
low,
I
mean
it's
still.
You
know.
Ethereum
right
now
is
at
forty
two
hundred
dollars.
I
think
it
is
per
unit
of
ether,
and
you
know
I
I
remember
when
it
was
around
seventy
nine
dollars.
B
As
far
as
gas
prices,
you're
still
you're
not
consuming
a
lot
of
gas
just
by
putting
a
storing
a
proof
on
on
a
in
a
block,
and
so
yes,
it
is
higher,
but
you're
talking
about
grains
of
sand,
and
it's
costing,
you
know,
probably
three
four
or
more
grains
of
sand.
But
when
you
look
at
it
from
the
context
of
the
beach
or
the
sandbox,
you
know
it's
not
each
individual
grain
is
not.
It
is
not
that
much.
B
I
guess
what
I'm
trying
to
say
is
gas
prices
really
for
within
a
baseline
application
are
still
so
small
because
they're,
not
representing
you,
know
a
large
payload.
That's
that's
that,
that's
being
you
know,
stored
in
the
transaction,
it's
just
a
a
hash
of
the
of
the
zero
knowledge
proof.
C
B
Within
a
multi-party
environment,
so
there
we
have
techniques
on
how
to
do
that
as
far
as
hedging
it
and
stuff.
But
gas
price
really
has
not
been
so
far
that
much
of
a
concern
just
because
it
is
a
little
bit
more,
but
the
costs
are
still,
you
know
considered
negligible.
C
One
because
of
the
fact
that
the
payload
that
you're
putting
out
there
is
just
a
hash
and
it's
aggregated
hash,
meaning
it's
for
the
base
ledger,
you
actually
accumulate
and
you
write
it
say
once
a
day
or
whatever
it
is.
And
so
you
really
you
don't,
have
you
don't
have
the
frequency
and
you
don't
have
the
bulk.
B
Right,
well
I
mean,
and
you
can
I
mean
if
you
have
something
that's
going
to
be
moving
back
and
forth,
but
that's
going
to
be
very
few
applications
that
still
probably
are
going
to
be
locked
in
a
purpose-driven
process.
Environment
that
you
know
someday
baseline
should
be
able
to
you
know
and
actually
baseline.
Could
it's
just
right
now.
You
know
when
you
have
such
a
high
throughput
proof
of
consistency
becomes
less
and
less
important.
B
Just
because
if
someone
were
to
try
and
do
something
untoward,
it
would
be
noticed
almost
immediately
just
in
the
change
in
the
process
environment.
If
someone
were
trying
to
try-
and
you
know
inject
something.
A
B
A
C
A
Yeah
yeah
very
interesting,
very
interesting
stuff,
so
in-
and
you
know,
there's
this
there's
this
one
more
and
yeah
I
mean
there
are
tons
of
tons
of
different
discussions
that
we've
been
having
across
you
know
across
industries
and
across
geographies.
C
A
Yes,
cool,
so
diffusion,
so
I
don't
see
the
camera
now
so
yeah
just
just
follow
my
follow
my
thing,
so
the
fusion
of
innovation
model.
Now
this
is
something
which
I
see
you
know
having
spent
years
and
years
on
consulting
work,
and
this
is
the
way
my
mind
operates
when
I'm
seeing
something
new
where,
where
in
the
wedge,
are
they
so
I
call
this
the
wedge,
which
is
the
which
is
the
starting
point
of
any
innovation
up
until
here.
A
So
you
have
the
innovators,
you
have
the
early
adopters,
you
have
only
majority
and
then
there
is
late
majority,
which
is
you
know
just
following
the
early
majority
and
the
laggards
who
may
may
not.
You
know
jump
over
at
all.
So
so
you
know
any
innovation
is
sort
of
built
for
for
the
wedge,
which
is
up
until
here
and
and
then
there
are
the
adoption
you
know
the
late,
adopters,
etc
and
the
laggards
who
may
may
not
know
companies
never
never
even
touched
this
segment
generally.
A
So
where
we
are
currently
with
baseline
is,
is
this
this
small
segment
of
probably
2.5
people
who
are
innovating
in
this
in
this
ecosystem?
Who
are
talking
about
it?
Who
are
listening?
Learning
evolving
as
the
protocol
evolves,
so
so
yeah
kudos
to
you
to
us,
you
know
being
in
the
in
the
call
today
and
of
course,
people
who
are
watching
us
on
youtube
today
and
in
future
as
well.
A
If
you're
watching
us
early
enough,
I
would
still
call
you,
innovators,
you're
you're,
in
this
first
2.5
off,
seeing
this
innovation
through
to
adopt
adopted
adoption.
The
next
wave
is
going
to
be
the
early
adopters
and
and
following
that
will
be
the
early
majority,
so
the
early
adopters.
I
what
I
have
seen
in
the
conversations
I've
been
having
with
you
know,
with
with
potential
sponsors
or
with
people.
Potentially
you
can
join
the
community
start,
you
know
drawing
codes,
etc.
You
know
they
see
it.
A
As
you
know,
I'm
part
of
something
really
innovative,
I'm
going
to
be
I'm
going
to
be
going
through
so
many
you
know
so
many
new
evolutions
and
that's
what
that
that's.
When
we
saw
real
people
step
up
and
do
some
absolutely
fantastic
things
when
we
run
the
grants
program,
you
know
so
you
know
you
all
have
seen
how
the
grant
program
shaped
up
and
people
created
some
really
fantastic
things.
In
fact,
they
are
currently
also
working
on
those
things.
A
In
fact,
if
any
of
you
who's
watching
today
wants
to
see
what's
happening
with
the
grants,
you
can
go
to
our
github
and
and
check
it
out
for
yourself,
so
so
yeah.
I
wanted
to
congratulate
everybody
who's
participating
in
this
that
you're,
your
innovators.
A
You
know
build
something
on
it
and
and
baseline
protocol
community
needs.
People
from
all
backgrounds
are
doing
all
sorts
of
stuff.
It's
not
only
coders.
We
need.
We
need
people
for
go
to
market.
You
know.
Mark
has
been
doing
a
fantastic
job
on
the
go
to
markets
team
as
well,
and
we
are
we
are.
We
are
collaborating
on
certain
things:
okay
and
then
there
is
a
whatsapp
notification
which
just
shows
up.
So
there
is
so
there
is
tons
of
stuff
happening
in
various
segments.
A
We
need
people
who
can
talk
to
talk
talk
about
sponsorships.
We
need
people
who
are
who
can
create
beautiful
designs?
You
know
jack
waring,
he's
currently
on
youtube
he's
not
here
on
the
studio,
but
he's
mostly
in
he's
been
doing
some
videos
on
you
know,
explainer
videos
etc.
So
we
need
people
from
all
skills
to
come
on
board
to
make
this
a
big
community.
A
C
B
So
evident
you
know,
I
would
say
it's
you
know
it's.
You
know
you,
it's
similar
to
really
kind
of
a
a
timeline
that
I
remember
reading
about.
You
know
event
back
in
university
and
stuff
to
where
anytime
you
have
something
new,
it's
immediately
rejected
and
it's
it
is
then
ambitiously
fought
by
the
status
quo.
Then
it
is
grudgingly
accepted
and
then
it
is
treated
as
self-evident.
B
You
know
and
you
have
to
go
through
those
different
ones.
I
mean
and
it's
it's
aggravating
because
you
know
human
beings
are
flawed
creatures,
I
mean
very
resistant,
you
know
I
I
commonly
tell
people
they're,
like
you
know,
we
know
that
our
process
environment
is
horrible
and
everything,
but
right
now
we're
just
too
afraid.
To
I
mean
we
have
this
learned
helplessness.
We
have
this.
We
think
this
is.
B
This
is
the
only
thing
that
we've
ever
known
and
we've
achieved
a
certain
amount
of-
I
guess,
maybe
not
comfort
but
painless
way
of
just
enduring
it
and
stuff,
and
I
commonly
you
know,
would
say
you
know
you're,
preferring
the
known
demon
as
opposed
to
the
unknown
angel.
Absolutely
it
really
is,
I
mean
that's.
B
Yeah
I
mean
it's
when
you
start
to,
you
know
have
to
you
know,
change
something
people
you
get
immediately,
you
know
fearful
and
stuff,
and
I
mean
you
can
kind
of
you
know
you
know,
take
them
by
the
hand
and
lead
them
gently
down
the
path,
but
you
know
even
then
you
know
you
still,
you
know
everybody
mentally
is
setting
themselves
up
for
failure
just
because
they're
like
this
is
something
I
don't
know
and
I'm
not
comfortable
with,
but
you
know
I
know
I
need
to
do
something
and
you
know
someday,
and
you
know
that
someday
may
never
come
and
or
you
know
I
promised
myself
or
my
team
that
I
would
do
this
by
now
and
oh
now
is
now
and.
A
It's
absolutely
so,
I
think
I
think
we
had
a.
We
had
a
great
chat.
I
hope
we've
been
able
to
address
a
lot
of
people's
questions,
apprehensions
second
thoughts
about
baseline
and
where
does
it
fit
in
into
the
enterprise,
and
why
are
why
are
three
people
coming
on
every
saturday
and
trying
to
evangelize
something
which
is
which
is
non-existent
so
so
it
is
very
much
existent
it
is.
It
is
being
built
up.
B
One
thing
to
point
out:
is
this:
isn't
just
you
know
three
guys
on
a
saturday
you
know,
but
really
kind
of
cute?
There
is
some.
There
has
been
going
on
over
two
plus
years
of
solid
work
being
done
right
in
global
organizations
such
as
ey
such
as
microsoft,
such
as
consensus
service.
Now
and
then
we
are
starting.
A
B
Sap,
microsoft,
you
know,
of
course,
has
dynamics
and
oracle
is
actually
starting
to
pay
attention
to
this
as
well.
B
A
B
Would
not
require
a
lot
of
pain
to
implement
and
would
not
require
a
huge
capital,
upfront
investment
and
really
you
could
put
up
and
operate
with
any
competent
development
team
that
you
may
have.
I
mean
two
or
three
developers
on
there
who
could
you
know
really
set
it
up
and
at
least
administer
it
yeah.
This
is
something
you
know
that
people
need
to
start
paying
attention
to,
and
you
know
it's
always
a
very
slow
glacial,
I
mean
march
toward
trying
to
have
the
ultimate
adoption.
B
Those
of
us
that
are
veterans
of
blockchain
are
are
no
stranger
to
that.
So
you
know,
and
it's
a
big
thing
right
now
is
a
lot
of
us.
You
know
that
have
been
around
the
blockchain
is
we're
paying
attention
to
the
message
that
we're
putting
out
is
that
you
know
we
want
to.
B
You
know,
definitely
consider
what's
being
heard
as
opposed
to
what
we're
just
being
what
we're
just
telling
you
know
you
know
so
many
people
say
we're
so
wrapped
up.
You
know
in
what
we
want
to
say
because
we're
the
true
believers,
we
are
the
you
know,
people
that
have
really.
You
know.
We
understand
it
and
we're
really
excited
about
it,
and
you
know
some
people
can
say.
Well,
that's
great,
I
don't
know
anything
about
it.
Oh
you
said
blockchain.
B
A
Absolutely
so
I
was
just
setting
out
the
baseline
song,
so
I
was
just
looking
up.
You
know.
Where
did
I
place
it?
We
have
some
active
chats.
Let's
look
at
those
some
issue
with
sound
echo,
yeah
yeah,
that
that
happens
all
the
time.
Okay,
new
trend,
private
blockchains.
What's
what's
jack,
saying
private
blockchain
is
working
on
new
privacy
features,
oh
fantastic,
okay,
so
jack
made
a.
A
A
You
know,
okay,
oh
so
somebody
says
you
got
to
hear
new
announcements,
fantastic,
so
so,
of
course
the
tsc
elections
have
concluded
and
I
got
re-elected
in
the
trc
and
also
yesterday,
the
tfc
voted
for
me
and
john
to
become
co-chairs
for
the
next
year.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
the
community
support
and-
and
I
really
love
doing
what
I'm
doing
and,
of
course,
building
the
community
here
in
india
and
and
of
course
you
know,
apac,
you
know
I've
been
talking
to
a
lot
of
people
outside
of
india
as
well.
A
So
so,
let's
see
how
it
goes
and
yeah.
But
but
you
know
I
do
have
you
know
one
thing
which
is:
it
comes
with
a
lot
of
responsibility.
You
know
this.
We
have
to
have
solid
plans
for
the
next
year
and
and
and
of
course
it
means
more
work
for
me,
but
but
yeah
I'm
up
for
the
challenge,
and
and
and
and
thank
you
so
much
and
mohan
and
mark
you
are
with
me
today
to
celebrate
this.
So
thanks
thanks
a
lot
we'll
keep
doing
this.
A
You
know,
and-
and
you
know
with
that-
there's
one
more
thing
I
would
like
to
wish
since
people
are
in
india-
do
watch
this
show
sometimes.
So
I
would
like
to
wish
everybody
a
happy
diwali
diwali
is
coming
up
in
the
coming
week
and
because
of
diwali
I
was
not
getting
any
good
speakers
for
the
next
week,
so
I
thought
that
you
know
what
we're
going
to
give
people
a
rest.
A
So
next
saturday
we
won't
be
doing
this.
We
will
be
doing
it
on
the
following
saturday,
which
is
the
13th
of
november
and
and
yeah
so
and,
and
that
show
and
trust
me
on
this-
that
that
show
is
going
to
be
huge,
we're
getting
the
global
head
of
data
and
analytics
from
a
very
large
company,
extremely
extremely
large
company,
so,
and
that
guy
is
going
to
tell
us
real
world
problems
and
real
what
applications
of
baseline
he's
excited
about
about
baseline
he's
he's
gone
through.
Most
of
our
literature
he's
seen.
A
You
know
the
way
it's
happening.
It's
building
up.
I've
sent
him
some
videos
of
our
shows
as
well.
So
he's
he's
probably
watched
some.
I
don't
know
how
many,
how
and
how
long,
but
but
that's
very
interesting,
you
know
capturing
the
interest
of
somebody
at
that
stage
and
and
he's
he's
he's
sitting
with
the
the
biggies
of
the
world
already
so
yeah.
That's
that's
the
announcement
from
my
side.
Thank
you!
A
So
much
and-
and
you
know,
jack
thanks
so
much
for
for
being
on
youtube
and
and
still
contributing
to
the
show
so
mark
mohan,
any
any
parting
parting
thoughts.
A
Absolutely
keep
baselining,
we
should.
We
should
start
saying
this
john
says
all
the
time
keep
baselining
right.
So
we
should.
We
should
start
saying:
yeah
keep
baselining
so,
and
can
you
hear,
can
you
hear
the
baseline
song?
So
now
is
the
time
for
baseline
song,
and
let
me
also
just
put
up
just
one
very
important
thing:
there
you
go
follow
us
on
youtube,
smash.
C
A
Up
the
I
had
set
up
a
new
speaker
today,
but
seems
to
be
some
issue.
Can
you
can
you.