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From YouTube: The Baseline Protocol - May 2022 General Assembly
Description
The monthly General Assembly meeting of the Baseline Protocol open source standards body community. https://baseline-protocol.org
A
Hey
everybody
baseline
show
once
again
it's
noon
on
wednesday
may
4th
2022
the
year
of
block
of
baselining
and
we're
here
for
the
monthly
general
assembly
session.
We
have
samurai
kishore
in
the
house
co-chair
with
myself.
We
have
sonal
patel,
mark
haddle,
keith
salzman,
charles
todd,
anand
nataranjan,
yov
bitton,
and
a
cast
of
thousands
that
you
can't
actually
see
because
they
have
their
cameras,
turned
off,
but
they're
all
on
our
zoom
and
we'll
be
going
through
our
normal
monthly
agenda.
B
All
right,
thank
you
so,
as
usual,
we'll
go
through.
Standards
updates
outreach
team
updates,
sponsorship,
core
devs
tsc
and
then
we'll
have
an
open
floor
with
everybody
here
for
any
community
company
or
just
other
topics
that
we
want
to
chat
about,
and
with
that
I
will
first
hand
over
to
andreas
freund
for
standards
updates
and
he
may
have
stepped
away.
C
Okay,
well,
it's
been
a
fairly
active
past
two
weeks
in
the
enablement
team.
We
basically
put
together
a
presentation,
that's
translatable
across
several.
You
know,
different
domains
that
you
know
can
be
used
as
presentation
within
a
lot
of
the
call
for
papers
that
we're
getting
from
a
lot
of
these
events
that
are
now.
You
know,
having
been
virtual
and
now
going
live
and
they're
getting
overwhelming
support,
because
people
just
want
to
get
out
and
you
know,
see
people
and
interact
with
others.
C
You
know
in
a
real
life
environment,
so
we
put
that
in
and
submitted
that
to
one
already
and
now
should
have
a
second
one,
that's
a
little
bit
more
security
based.
But
what
we're
doing
is
really
you
know
getting
out
there.
You
know
talking
and
telling
everybody
you
know
this
is
what
baseline
is,
what
it
isn't,
and
this
is
how
it
can
give
real
value
to
what
you're
doing
and
so
into
that
list.
We've
got
a
lot
of
people,
you
know
getting
together.
C
You
know
kind
of
putting
together
a
lot
of
the
thought
pieces.
Mark
rimsa
has
just
put
together
a
blog
for
the
eiff
and
that's
been
very
well
received.
It's
really
cool,
you
know
how
he
kind
of
blends
the
technical
and
the
practical
real
world
together.
So
we
encourage
a
lot
more
of
that.
Anybody
that
wants
to
you
know
kind
of
you
know
jot
down
some.
You
know
just
some
free
associating
as
far
as
you
know
what
baseline
is.
C
We
certainly
encourage
everyone
to
get
involved
and
you
know
to
that
end.
We
want,
to
you,
know,
start
focusing
on
putting
out.
You
know
a
whole
slew
of
these
thought
pieces,
so
they
could
be
put
out.
You
know
on
all
the
different
channels.
You
know
to
reach
the
widest
audience,
as
as
we
can,
we
got
a
lot
of
people
that
have
a
tremendous
depth
of
knowledge
that
has
really
kind
of
been
within
the
community
here
and
we
want
to
expand
the
reach
to
get
to
everyone
else.
C
D
A
A
Basically
people
from
our
community
who
you
know
who
can
who
can
tell
the
story?
You
know.
Obviously
you
know
getting
that
story,
nice
and
succinct
getting
the
the
you
know.
Why
should
you
care,
you
know
the?
Why?
What
and
how
of
baselining
down
so
that
a
wide
array
of
us
can
do
it
and
then
lining
you
know
basically
booking
us
on.
You
know,
like
you
know,
just
getting
some.
You
know
a
few.
A
few
people
together
that
can.
D
D
A
A
Was
you
know,
you
know
joe
lubin
and
the
rest
of
us
would
go
around
to
you
know
sometimes
fairly
notable
organizations,
world,
bank
and
stuff
like
that
and
we'd
spend
the
day,
educating
them
on
blockchain
and
and
we
could
even
do
you
know,
I
think
we
did
like
like
many
hackathons
right,
where
the
it
wasn't
a
hackathon
like
many
companies,
it
was
just
a
single
company's
sort
of
thing
and
we
would
just
do.
We
would
basically
have
a
hack
day
within
the
company.
C
Yeah
and
that's
basically,
you
know
kind
of
the
nucleus
behind
you
know
how
we
started.
Looking
at
doing
persona
based
thought
pieces
out
there
that
really
speak
to
you
know
the
audience
you
know
from
sitting
in
you
know
standing
in
their
their
shoes.
You
know
what
does
this
mean
for
them?
I
mean,
I
think,
a
lot
of
the
content
that
we
see
out
there
I
mean
not
just
in
baseline,
but
in
blockchain
to
where
we're
so
passionate
about
it.
We
start
telling
everybody
about.
C
What's
so
cool
about
it,
and
we
really,
you
know
kind
of
ignore
you
know
what
value
does
this
bring
to
your
to
your
everyday
lives?
You
know,
how
does
it
make?
How
does
it
help
you
make
money,
save
money
or
stay
out
of
trouble?
You
know
are
really
kind
of
the
the
three
pillars
on
that
and
you
know
what
we
want
to
do
is
you
know
you
know
put
out,
you
know,
content
that
is
focused
on.
What's
being
heard,
you
know
a
lot
of
times
we
want
to
be
able
to.
C
You
know
get
the
non-technical
audience,
you
know
and
we
don't
want
to
kind
of
chum
up
the
water
with
all
of
this.
You
know
technical
jargon
and
speak
because
you
know
they
don't
understand
it
and
you
know
you
kind
of
lose
their
their
their
their
attention,
so
we're
putting
all
this
stuff
together
with
that
very
you
know
intent
in
mind.
I'm
here.
A
I
think,
with
the
you
know,
we've
got
to
spend
the
the
we
have
more
coming
in
terms
of
grant
money.
If
somebody
at
least
I
for
one-
I
don't
know
summer
or
the
other
tsc
members
feel,
but
I
for
one
would
not
say
turn
vote
down
a
proposal
for
hey
we're.
Gonna
spend
some
money
traveling
to
this
event
or
we're
going
to
spend
some
money
as
long
as
it's
not
showing
a
particular
company
that
would
be
you'd
have
to
draw
the
line
there.
A
A
A
C
E
Yeah
we
we
have
to
do
a
better
job
of
empowering
everybody
as
an
ambassador
to
spread
the
word
right
and
john.
I
love
the
idea
about
making
the
rounds
at
the
you
know
on
all
the
the
talk
shows
what
why
not
it's
an
easy
way
to
spread.
The
word
I
mean
people
are
curious
about
what
we're
doing
what
and
they're
even
more
curious
when
they
find
out
how
we
do
it.
A
C
G
Well,
anything
referencing
those
things
you
know
it
just
shuts
them
off
right,
but
also
you
know
for
this
community
right.
It
would
be
good
to
hear
from
you
know
the
entities
you
know,
companies,
firms
etc
and
supply
chains,
and
so
on.
That
would
need
this
coordination
right
to
articulate
to
listen
to
them
are
typically
their
use
cases.
C
I
mean
that
are
just
so
unwieldy
and
you
know
when
you're
starting
to
reconcile
them
with
counterparties,
moving
that
large
of
a
file
becomes
so
problematic
that
wouldn't
it
be
better
if
they
just
stay
where
they
are,
but
you
can
prove
a
consistency
between
the
two,
that's
really
some
low-hanging
fruit
that
we
have
right
now.
You
know
that
goes
across
so
many
different
industry
domains.
I
mean
supply
chain,
yes,
but
I'm
even
supply
chain
has,
you
know
a
whole.
A
D
F
D
A
G
Was
an
article
in
the
stanford
law
journal
about
you
know
how
you
can
put
you
know
these
international
trade
flows
right
on
a
distributed
ledger.
So
when
a
cargo
moves
from
port
to
port
right
I
mean
you,
don't
have
multiple
forms,
you
have
one,
you
know
certificate
or
something
about
what
is
in.
Like
a
you
know,
shipment
or
something
like
that
right
that
can
be
referenced
by
multiple
authorities
across
borders
and
so
on.
Oh
yeah,.
E
E
G
F
A
I
still
I'm
I'm
still
reminded
of
all
the
times
I
was
talking
to
enterprises
like
that
and
and
or
when
we
actually
built
an
in
production
or
pseudo
in
production,
private,
blockchain
and
yeah.
I
think
I
think
some
people
I
know
and
some
of
my
old
team
you
know,
really
really
figured
out
how
to
how
to
use
the
word
production
liberally.
A
It
used
to
mean
something
in
the
80s
but
yeah
so
in
production,
blockchain
implementations
where
I'm
like.
Well,
where
are
your
nodes?
Oh
well,
they're
in
our
server
farm
and
I'm
like,
we
have
four
of
them
and
I'm
like
or
yeah
and
they're.
You
know
like
well
you're
serving
a
bunch
of
banks.
You
know,
do
they
want
their
own
nodes,
they're
like
yes,
we
we
all.
A
C
F
Yeah,
if
you're,
if
you're,
if
you're,
if
you're
in,
if
you're
an
l2
one
that
is
highly
sharded
aka
runs
in
parallel,
is
perfectly
fine.
There's!
No
there's!
No
there's!
No!
There's
no
issue
issue
with
that.
In
fact,
if
you
want,
you
can,
do
you
know
a
whole
bunch
of
fpga
boards
and
they
they
all
do
to
do
that
really
really
well,
and
you
know
you
can,
that
can
be
an
l2,
it's
like
as
long
as
as
it
as
it
executes
and
it
and
it
anchors
properly
on
on
on
the
l1.
F
That's
all
you
know
it's
like
it's
it's
it's
it's
there.
There
are
many
many
ways
to
to
skin
the
cat.
The
key
point
here
is
the
key
point
is
that
you
cannot
lock
me
out
ever
right.
That
is
the
main.
That's
the
main
point.
It's
like
that's!
Why
why
banks
are
problematic
because
they
can
lock
you
out,
but
if,
if,
if
you
have
a
bank
on
an
l2,
they
can't
lock
you
out,
because
you
can
always
take
your
assets
and
run.
A
I
Andreas,
that's
kind
of
one
of
the
most
key
points
to
all
this.
This
whole
movement
and
shift
that
we're
seeing
you
know
in
the
enablement
of
web
3.
I
mean
in
the
centralization
of
what
the
banks
do.
You
know
I.
I
think
that
that's
one
of
the
key
things
to
this
entire
movement
and
one
of
the
things
that
personally
fires
me
most
up
about
this
shift
that
we
are
all
part
of
in
in
producing.
B
All
right,
so
thank
you
mark
for
those
updates
and
all
the
conversations
that
came
afterwards
really
quickly.
I'll
just
provide
some
website
metrics
from
our
last
google
analytics
report.
So
from
april
5th,
through
april
24th,
we
had
914
users
on
the
site,
with
844
being
new
users
with
1131
sessions.
B
B
J
Sure,
unfortunately,
I
don't
have
any
new
sponsors
to
announce
this
month,
but
we
are
working
on
following
up
from
a
lot
of
good
leads
that
we
got
from
the
amsterdam
conference.
So
in
terms
of
attendees,
as
well
as
speakers
and
I'm
going
to
attend
the
next
go
to
market
group
and
try
to
see
how
we
can
put
together
some
campaign
ideas
to
go
after
some
companies
and
leverage
some
of
the
materials
that
that
group
has
just
produced.
J
That
mark
was
talking
about
and
we
have
a
couple
of
big
conferences
that
oasis
will
be
at
or
oasis
people.
We've
got
the
rsa
security
conference
next
month,
but
we'll
be
there
and
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
the
tc's
work
sort
of
spills
over
so
we'll
be
trying
to
promote
what
we
can,
and
I
know
the
open
source
summit
is
in
austin
next
month
and
sonal
and
perhaps
some
others
will
be
there.
J
A
I
got
one
question
there.
I'm
full
of
questions
today
carol
do
we
have,
I
think
the
next
pgb
meeting
is
is
coming
up
and
I
think
the
one
of
the
big
things
that
we're
finally
going
to
get
done
is
is
the
approvals
on
grants
coming
from
non-sponsors,
right
and
also
along
with
that,
the
you
know
it
is
now
possible
to
make
grants
in
crypto.
A
A
Great,
so
that
sonal
and
everybody
one
once
that's
approved,
we
can
light
up.
We
can
we
can
take
the
open,
collective
donation
page
and
surface
it
right
to
the
front
of
the
you
know
in
the
appropriate
place
and
way
on
the
website,
and
we
should
be
letting
people
know
that
they
can
actually
donate
in
in
various
kinds
of
crypto.
D
A
I
think
the
just
just
for
awareness
and
again
this
has
not
been
approved
yet,
but
this
is
the
language
that
is
going
to.
The
pgb
is
effectively
that
there's
a
percentage.
If
you're
not
a
sponsor
of
the
of
of
the
eea,
open
community
product
projects,
org,
then,
if,
then,
your
donation
will,
you
know,
I
think
some
some
percentage
of
it
will
go
to
effectively
sponsoring
sponsorship
funds
and
the
rest
of
it
will
be
used
for
for
for
grants.
K
K
This
was
our
kind
of
first
baseline
protocol
in-person
event
which
took
place
april.
20Th
we
sold
out
the
event
over
200
tickets
were
sold
or
given
and
at
the
event
we
had
four
speakers
from
various
sponsoring
companies
that
were
also
baseline,
related
and
their
speaks
were
all
kind
of
interweaving.
What
they
were
up
to
with
how
it
works
to
introduce
baseline
to
what
they
were
doing.
K
K
K
So
for
anybody
who
is
still
interested
in
getting
involved
in
baseline
and
hasn't
yet
seen
this,
it's
basically
an
event
that
allows
you
to
pick
up
these
open
blips,
which
is
a
baseline
improvement
proposal
and
get
to
work
on
them.
So
they're,
all
just
various
implementations.
Some
are
kind
of
looser
than
other.
K
The
idea
is
that
you
can
read
through
it
and
kind
of
carve
your
own
path
for
how
you
think
it
should
look
and
then
propose
a
grant
for
it
and
get
to
work
on
it,
so
that
may
11th
date
is
not
a
hard
cutoff.
That
was
just
kind
of
to
make
the
event
six
weeks
long
and
centered
around
devconnect.
But
in
no
way
are
these
blips
going
to
disappear.
K
Just
because
may
11th
passes
so,
if
you're
already
working
on
one
or
are
interested
in
picking
one
up,
don't
feel
like
that
is
a
hard
cut
off
for
you.
It's
okay!
If
you
go
any
time
past
that
so
yeah,
that's
amster-based,
I'm
going
to
cover
quickly.
Some
blip
updates
as
well,
and
these
are
all
things
that
were
discussed
in
our
core
devs
meeting,
so
blip
11
is
centered
around
cleaning
up
the
repo
and
the
docks.
K
The
initial
work
was
done
on
this
blip
to
determine
that
the
docks
were
the
main
focus
of
this
blip.
That's
where
the
majority
of
the
work
should
be
done
and
with
that
being
the
top
priority,
it
has
been
underway
to
consolidate
the
files
clean
up
the
docs
and
make
sure
everything
is
kind
of
a
good,
easy
source
of
truth,
and
that
project
is
nearing
its
completion.
B
Yes,
I'm
almost
I'm
pretty
much
done.
Actually,
I
went
through
all
the
doc
pages,
with
keith's
help
on
the
technical
components
and
the
final
step
based
on
my
conversations
with
the
oasis
team,
is
any
major
material
changes
which
there
aren't
any
really,
but
anything
that
removes
governance
that
is
not
being
followed
anymore,
like
stuff
about
the
previous
bootstrapping
period
or
just
outdated
material,
that's
being
removed,
I'm
just
putting
it
into
a
document,
so
the
pgb
can
review
and
sign
off
on
that
change
occurring.
B
So
our
docs
will
be
refreshed,
hopefully
next
week
and
they'll
be
completely
up
to
date
with
how
our
org
functions,
as
well
as
the
technical
resources
that
exist,
what
the
status
of
them
are
and
they'll
just
still
remain,
as
the
one-stop
shop
for
those
visiting
the
baseline
page
and
wanting
to
read
up
on
how
everything
works.
So
almost
done
super
excited
for
that.
H
K
Yeah
for
sure,
so,
yeah
I'll
put
a
link
in
the
youtube
chat,
but
all
information
regarding
amster
based
our
event,
both
online
and
offline,
can
be
found
at
baseline-protocol.org,
amsterdam,
there's
a
link
in
the
youtube
channel
and
also,
if
you
check
out
our
github
repo,
there
is
a
blips
repo
in
the
oasis,
org
and
there
you
can
find
the
issues
tab
and
find
all
of
the
open
blips
that
are
available
to
be
picked
up.
Reviewed
worked
on.
K
So
yeah
with
that
I'll
move
on
to
blip
six,
which
is
the
monolithic
test
suite
this
one's
been
discussed
in
the
past
as
well.
The
work
is
still
wrapping
up.
Just
a
couple
more
loose
ends
that
the
team
are
kind
of
working
towards
and
as
that
wraps
up
and
is
fully
completed,
it's
going
to
transition
itself
into
the
simple
reference
implementation
or
the
sri,
which
is
kind
of
the
priority
one
of
the
baseline
roadmap
for
the
year.
K
So
that's
the
two
blips
I
wanted
to
discuss.
I
also
wanted
to
cover
something
else.
We
talked
about
in
the
core
dev
meeting,
which
is
the
future
of
our
dev
events.
I
think
the
bounty
hunt
was
a
success.
I
think
it
was
a
good
idea
and
I'm
glad
we
got
to
toy
with
all
of
these
blip
ideas
and
and
really
get
the
kind
of
community
involved
in
coming
up
with
different
implementations.
K
So
the
idea
was
for
future
events
to
create
some
sort
of
baseline
workshop.
That
would
allow
users
to
go
kind
of
step
by
step
and
follow
a
guide
that
you
know
by
completing
this
workshop
would
allow
them
to
create
some
sort
of
implementation,
something
like
maybe
battleship.
We
could
have
them
walk
through
step
by
step
or
whatever
the
sri
becomes
could
be
a
pretty
good
baseline.
Maybe
basically
it
could
be
a
pretty
good
kind
of
starting
point
and
then
the
idea
is
from
there.
You
finish
the
workshop.
K
A
Like
can
we
just
get
that
done,
I'm
getting
frustrated
with
with
people's
legitimate
reaction
that
this
is
complicated,
that
they
don't
understand
it.
What
is
this
I'm
just
getting
tired
of
it
and
it's
unnecessary.
I
wrote
a
tweet.
It's
still
at
the
top
of
my
twitter
thing.
There's
six
things
involved,
four
of
them
solidly
and
maybe
five
you.
If
you're
an
I.t
professional
you
do
every
day,
it's
not
hard.
A
The
one
thing
that
you
have
to
kind
of
get
your
head
around
is
zero
knowledge
circuits
and
you
don't
even
need
those
for
every
single
particular
use
case.
That's
baselining,
you
know,
and
and
if
you
do
need
them,
you
know
here's!
Here's,
here's,
the
black
box
that
you
just
you
know
put
inputs
and
outputs
from
you.
Don't
have
to
actually
know
zero
knowledge,
cryptography
math.
A
So
I'm
I'm
I'm
getting
weary
of
the.
This
is
complicated
story.
It's
not!
I
mean
if
you
yeah,
I
mean
it's
complicated
in
that
it's
computer
science,
but
you
know
in
in
engineering,
but
if
you're
an
engineer,
you
should
not
be
sitting
there
going.
Oh
wow.
This
is
too.
This
is,
this
is
daunting
and
if
that's
the
case,
then
we're
doing
a
terrible
job
explaining
this
stuff.
So
yes,
let's
please
fix
that.
Now.
K
A
Underlying
need
for
some
some.
It
is
a
natural
thing
if
you're,
if
you're
making
something
to
say
hey,
this
is
really
complicated,
but
try
yeah,
but
here
use
my
thing
because
it'll
make
it
easy
right.
No,
it's
not
it's
not
hard.
It's
not
complicated.
You
know
you
can
still
use
the
thing
that
makes
it
even
easier,
but
don't
be
scared
off
by
somebody
saying
hey.
You
know
you
need
me,
because
this
is
hard.
Let's,
let's
make
sure
that
that's
not
a
story
that
gets
out
there.
Sorry
off
my
soapbox,
now
sorry.
K
L
L
Up
like
the
the
space
like
our
space
to
build,
you
know
to
have
our
own,
like
you
know,
kind
of
steps
course
difficult
implementation
and
then
anybody
else
who
has
their
you
know
steps
to
build
an
implementation.
They
can
add
it
into
and
you
look
at
all
the
different
ones.
It's
like
a
like
a
space
in
which
you
can
build
things.
L
K
That
sounds
what
an
excellent
idea
yeah.
Definitely
I
think
there
are
a
lot
of,
especially
with
you
know,
the
community
that
we
have
here.
I
think
there
are
a
lot
of
ways
we
could
get
a
lot
of
very
talented
people
involved
and
create
something
pretty
quickly.
That
would
add
a
lot
of
value
to
the
protocol
awesome.
Another
thing
I
wanted
to
touch
on,
or
another
thing
that
should
be
discussed
is
zero
knowledge
in
general
and
c
prize
and
keith.
If
you
wanted
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
that.
L
L
If
you
just
go
to
zprize.io,
you
can
check
it
out
millions
of
dollars
in
funding
from
all
kinds
of
different
partners
like
galeo
and
oma,
polygon,
mina,
aztec,
everything
and
if
you
just
go
and
check
it
out,
go
to
the
different
prizes
they
have
like,
for
example,
I'm
on
there
right
now.
If
I
go
to
like
one
of
the
things
they
want
is
like
accelerating
wasm
you
hit
more
info,
and
it's
just
like
pretty
simple.
This
prize
is
awarded
to
the
fastest
web
assembly,
prover
implementation
for
the
planck
up
proof
system.
L
F
F
Hackathon
and
you
know
if
you
want
to
sharpen
your
zkp
skills
and
and
learn
from
from
the
best
of
the
best
and
I'll
go
there.
I
I
I
can
only
encourage
participation
there,
even
if
it's
just
for
for
learning.
I
think
it's
it's
it's
great.
So
this
is
a.
This
is
a
follow-on
to
the
to
the
reddit
bake-off
from
last
year.
What
was
it
2020.?
H
H
H
B
I
was
just
going
to
mention
we
we
kicked
that
back
off,
I
think.
Originally,
we
didn't
have
a
super
clear
focus.
We
do
have
a
really
good
group,
though,
and
it
keeps
expanding
some
others
have
reached
out
to
me
and
now
our
objectives,
at
least
to
start,
are
going
to
be
compiling
a
repository
of
just
topics,
so
it
could
be
anything.
It
doesn't
have
to
follow
certain
guidelines,
but
it
could
be
just
like
what
about
researching
this
exact.
D
B
Related
to
baselining,
as
well
as
starting
to
collect
any
research
materials
that
aren't
baseline,
focused
but
they're
baseline,
adjacent
they're,
revolving
the
same
technologies
or
the
same
problem.
So
now
we're
going
to
have
an
objective
of
the
group
as
well
as,
as
we
start
working
together,
we
can
form
the
next
steps,
one
of
the
baseline
community
members
kaushik.
B
He
is
with
massari
now
and
he's
a
research
analyst,
so
he'll
be
joining
us
on
yeah
he's
super
cool.
I
met
him
through
the
iu
blockchain
club
when
I
spoke
there
and
he's
taking
a
gap
year
to
just
research
defy
and
things
full
time,
and
I'm
he's
loving
it
so
he'll
be
helping
lead
our
research
group
and
on
thursday
he
will
cover
just
kind
of
the
an
overall
walk
through
on
formulating
good
research
topics,
finding
good
resources
and
just
like
how
to
start
from
square
one.
So
super
excited
for
this
group
now.
H
Yeah,
that's
awesome,
that's
awesome,
so
that
was
something
which
I
wanted
to
mention
about
today.
I
don't
have
any
updates
from
the
tse
perspective.
We
we're
really
looking
at
some
rules
in
the
in
the
in
the
in
the
rule
book
but
yeah
once
once
that
is
ratified,
we
will
really
release
it
for
everybody
and
john.
I
liked
your
proposal
about
about
setting
aside
some
points
for
conducting
focus
groups,
and
you
know
those
sessions.
H
I
think
I
think
that
I
I
love
that
idea,
because
that
is
something
that
was
sort
of
the
missing
link
and
that's
I.
I
have
personally
tried
calling
a
lot
of
people
on
the
show
or
even
if
you
know
they
have
been
on
the
show
and
they've
sort
of
maybe
10
15
understood
what
baselining
is
we,
where
we
lack,
is
really
following
up
with
them
and
and
sort
of
seeing
it
through.
You
know
to
the
to
the
extent
that
they
allocate
resources
and
start
baselining
in.
A
The
early
days
we
had,
we
had
some
really
great
players
that
were
very
focused
on
education
and
on
yeah
there
were
consul,
consulting
firms
right.
They
were
based
on
they,
they
they
did
back
in
the
first
year.
You
know
all
these
educational,
but
we
we
weren't
ready
for
that
right.
We
were
still,
or
rather
we.
You
know
it
was
great.
We
were
ready,
but
we
weren't
it.
Wasn't.
It
wasn't
mature
enough
for
them
to
turn
that
into
deal
flow.
D
A
I
think
that's
changed
now.
Unfortunately,
they
they've
kind
of
they
kind
of
petered
out
from
that,
so
maybe
companies
like
envision
could
can
and
others
can,
and
frankly,
tcs
and
accenture
and
and
and
other
majors
at
this
point
yeah.
If
if
they
don't
see
a
direct
path
from
a
session
with
a
with
a
company
about
how
to
how
to
do
better
information
security
for
multi-party
automation,
then
you
know
anybody
that
doesn't
see
that
should
probably
be
replaced
with
somebody
that
does
because
they're
they're
leaving
money
on
the
table.
F
A
There's
always
somebody
in
a
company
in
a
major,
you
know
consulting
firm
that
says:
well,
we
it
when
our
customers
ask
for
it,
we'll
do
that
and
then
there's
somebody
else.
Thank
god
in
that
same
company
that
says,
I'm
gonna
get
the
customer
to
ask
for
that
and
if
it
weren't
for
those
guys,
the
other,
the
former
guys
wouldn't
have
a
job.
D
B
Yeah,
what
I
think
is
going
to
be
really
interesting
is,
with
some
of
these
work
group
efforts
that
are
really
going
to
kick
off
and
we
have
some
key
leaders
in
the
community
who
will
be
leading
them.
But
I
mentioned
this
in
the
outreach
work
group
is.
Some
of
us
here
are
part
of
an
eea
work
group,
I'm
the
co-chair
of
I'm
the
chair
of
it.
B
Heather
flannery
was
there
and
she
was
mentioning
what
really
resonates
when
she's
having
these
talks
with
the
ceos
and
how
just
all
these
different
personas
and
I'm
really
excited
to
bring
some
of
those
findings
to
the
enablement
work
group,
because
one
of
the
outcomes
is
like
currently,
some
of
these
pitch
decks.
We're
making
you're
not
going
to
show
a
20
slide
deck
to
a
ceo
you're,
going
to
show
a
one
pager
that
has
the
numbers.
How
much
will
you
save?
How
does
it
work?
B
What
is
what
are
the
security
concerns
or
benefits
and
like
that's
it
and
for
these
consulting
firms,
if
you
show
them
we're
going
to
help,
you
meet
your
revenue,
metrics
and
here's
a
way
you
can
provide
this
solution
to
your
clients,
so
super
excited
to
kind
of
piece
together.
Some
of
these
different
efforts.
H
F
The
consulting
firm,
sorry
on
the
consulting
firm
side
find
a
client
partner
right
who's,
a
little
bit
innovative
and
make
him
a
rock
star
by
by
by
increasing
his
or
her
deal
flow.
That's
it
and
and
then
everybody
is
going
to
hop
on
that
on
that
bandwagon,
because
everybody,
because
everybody's
bonus
is
tiled
to
to
to
deal
flow
and
if
the
other
guy
takes
off,
they
don't
get
the
bermuda
vacation
because
they
they
they
weren't
the
one
with
the
with
the
biggest
deal
flow,
and
they
do
want
that
bermuda.
Vacation
I'll
tell
you.
I
That
and
there
and
there's
such
an
opportunity
for
some
of
these
consulting
partners
to
be
at
the
forefront
of
the
enablement
of
like
a
particular
connecting
system,
whether
that's
sap,
whether
that's
servicenow,
there's
such
a
massive
opportunity
for
these
partners
to
be
like
the
consulting
partner
that
is
driving
that
forth.
For
these
major
platforms.
B
And
actually
with
that,
I'll
also
add
an
update.
We
talk
about
this
in
our
outreach
group.
There's
a
lot
happening
there
for
anyone
who's
interested,
but
we
are
working
on
that
analyst
report
with
the
idc
and
I've
been
kind
of
maintaining
that
relationship
and
they're,
putting
together
the
proposal
for
this
study
that
they
would
do
that
highlights
the
problems
that
baseline
would
solve
and
also
that
other
solutions
or
companies
might
be
interested
in,
because
I
think
the
path
forward
will
be
having
a
multi-party
funded
report.
B
So
any
of
the
companies
watching
or
people
here
who
represent
their
companies
could
be
part
of
this
study
and
hopefully,
by
the
end
of
the
summer,
we'll
have
a
really
solid
piece
that
has
all
the
numbers
behind
it
on
cost
savings
and
such
and
that'll
be
a
huge
driver
with
the
enablement
content.
It'll
be
kind
of
the
missing
link.
A
F
F
F
How
do
you
want
to
spend
the
five
grand
right
you
want
to
spend
the
five
grand
and
get
featured
or
spend
the
five
grand
afterwards
right
and-
and
it's
like
it's
like
that's-
I
mean
that's,
basically
it
right,
because
that's
what
the
reports
cost
right
when
you
go
to
idc,
there
are
like
three
four
or
five
grand,
depending
on
the
on
their
on
their
on
their
size
and
size
and
size
and
effort.
So
you
know
it's
it's
literally.
F
B
So
it's
going
to
be
a
joint
effort
with
the
idc
team,
something
that's
super
exciting
and
john.
You
know
you've
been
in
these
meetings,
but
they
have
multiple
idc
execs
from
all
sorts
of
departments
across
the
organization
like
analytics
information
management,
financial
insights
data
as
a
service,
geospatial
intelligence.
B
All
these
different
areas
coming
together
and
interested
in
this
report.
So
it's
really
cool
because
I
think
this
level
of
customization
and
what
we're
asking
for
or
hoping
to
find
there
was
a
kind
of
a
slim
chance
I
reached
out
to
other
companies
as
well
and
they're
like
we
have
no
idea
what
you're
saying,
but
we
got
together
with
idc
and
they're
really
interested
in
this
effort.
So
I
think
it'll
be
a
a
big
win
for
the
community.
H
That's
awesome,
awesome.
Awesome
updates.
I
think
one
last
thing
which
I
wanted
to
highlight
is
also
our
intent
to
you
know
allocate
some
budget
for
social
media
management.
You
know,
that's
that's
again,
a
key
outreach
activity.
You
know,
writing
the
right
blog
post
at
the
right
time,
posting
on
social
media.
You
know
having
consistent
messaging
and
that's
it.
That's
key.
Consistent,
timely
messaging
is
very
key,
so
we're
going
to
have
something
on
that
on
those
lines
as
well.
H
F
Cool
yeah.
What
one
one
last
point:
the
the
integration
of
ditson
vcs
into
into
into
digital
asset
wallet,
which
is
important.
That
is,
is
that
that
grant
has
been
approved.
Please
put
in
your
proposals
and
so
that
that's
that's,
really!
That's
really
important.
It's
useful
beyond
the
ecosystem,
so
just
from
a
tsc
point
of
view,
so
that's
good
to
go.
Let's
I
will
so
sonal
just
really
quick
moving
on
because
I
need
to
drop
in.
F
Like
you
know,
two
minutes,
I
apologize
that
I
didn't
wasn't
there
to
give
standards
update.
There
was
a
bird
that
flew
in
the
house
and
my
daughter
had
had
us
had
a
screaming
fit
that
was
after
discovering
bugs
in
the
pantry
this
morning.
So
it
was
it
was.
It
was
a
slightly
slightly
emotionally
riven
riven
morning
at
my
house,
so
I
apologize
for
being
late.
Do
you
want
me
to
like
give
you
the
give
the
30
seconds
update
on
that?
F
Yes,
please,
okay,
so
30
second
update,
pgb,
still
hasn't
hasn't
figured
out
what
the
requirements
are
to
become
a
let
alone
draft
standard
project.
Draft
standard
is
like
a
specification,
let
alone
project
specification.
What
we're
getting
there
you
know
as
standard
bodies
take
their
time.
This
takes
also
time.
F
So
you
know,
I
presume,
in
about
three
months,
we'll
be
ready,
given
everybody's
calendar,
so
hopefully
we'll
we'll
by
then
we'll
be
able
to
have
the
current
release
at
a
level
where
we
need
where
we
can
move
this
to
to
a
project
specification
draft.
We
have
been
working
on
that
issues
have
been
addressed
in
prs.
F
There's
still
one
open
pr
for
improvements,
please
guys
read
and
comment
and
raise
issues
you
know
because,
because
the
the
we
we
need
to
get
those
ready
and
if
you
have
any
reference
syllable
implementations,
please
let
us
know
so
we
can.
We
can
put
that
in
because
that
is
a
requirement
for
the
project
specification.
We
need
to
have
two
at
least
production
implementations
that
are
provably
standard,
compliant.
F
D
K
E
B
D
C
Just
one
thing
that
I've
you
know
just
noticed
by
watching
everything:
it
is
astonishing
how
much
money
is
being
thrown
at
web3
nfb.
You
know
type
enabled
projects
that
really
do
not
have
that
much.
I
mean
I
can't
see
a
path
to
success,
but
these
things
are
being
raising
obscene
amounts
of
money
at
these
you
know
lofty
valuations
and
I'm
like:
where
are
they
getting
all
of
this
I
mean
I
just
thought
yuga
labs,
which
is
the
one
you
know
behind
board
aches,
and
you
know
various
different
projects.
H
G
D
G
Yeah,
but
actually
the
I
think,
the
point
to
what
mark
said
is
basically
that
you
know
baseline
and
projects
like
baseline
are
far
more
important
than
the
typical
nft
project
out
there,
but
the
nft
projects
can
raise
billions
of
hundreds
of
millions
of
dollars,
but
we
are
looking
at
a
few
ten
thousand
here
hundred
thousand
there
so
on.
So
why
why
that
disconnect?
You
know
it's
kind
of
like
an
inversely,
it's
inversely
proportional
to
the
importance
of
your
work,
your
ability
to
function.
I
Because
enterprises
are
slow
to
move
just
bottom
line,
it's
a
much
longer
tailwind
with
these
enterprises
that
we're
building
these
relationships.
With
I
mean
you
can
see
it,
I
I
say
this
often
there's
still
so
many
long-standing
enterprises
that
haven't
even
modernized
their
clout,
their
their
data
into
the
cloud
yeah.
I
G
And
that's
probably,
why
john's
so
keen
on
this
education
thing
right
and
and
that's
a
good
point
you
made,
because
one
of
you
know
like
I've,
been
working
on
project
management
right
and
that's
kind
of
like
a
important
multi-party
workflow,
which
a
huge
you
know,
amount
of
inefficiency.
I
mean
trillions
of
dollars,
lost
et
cetera,
right,
massive
problem,
but
the
thing
is
these
guys
are
just
starting
to
go
to
the
cloud
I
mean
you
know
so
they're
kind
of
behind
by
so
much.
You
know
that
you,
you
kind
of
have
to
leap
from
them.
G
G
I
I
We
can
kind
of
enable
that
right
out
of
the
box
and
organizations
you
know,
there's
all
that
investment
pooling
into
you
know,
nfts
and
all
these
other
different
facets
of
the
web
3
ecosystem.
But
this
is
the
opportunity
for
enterprises
to
get
you
know
to
really
get
involved
and
start
driving
some
significant
change,
because
personally,
I
do
believe
that
this
is
going
to
be
the
most
significant
evolution
within
web3
across
the
enterprise
that
we
will
come
to
see.
But
time
will
tell.
G
Well,
let
me
kind
of
frame
it
this
way
right.
So
basically
I
know
so
many
companies,
you
know
big
companies
that
are
investing
hundreds
of
millions
of
dollars
each
year
to
move
legacy
systems
into
the
cloud.
Now
we
need
to
kind
of
short-circuit
that
and
get
them
into
web
three
right,
because
you
know
these.
G
These
guys
are
already
behind
the
curve
you
know
by
trying
to,
and
they
have
a
lot
of
reservations
about
the
cloud
in
any
case,
because
they're
really
afraid
of
moving
the
data
into
systems
that
they
do
not
control
and
often
that
is
quite
well
justified
as
well.
So
we
need
to
kind
of
tell
them.
You
don't
need
to
move
fully
into
the
cloud.
G
You
know
I
mean
the
cloud
has
its
space,
but
you
can
still
retain
a
lot
of
your
systems
and
we
will
allow
you
to
coordinate
across
you
know,
company
organizational,
whatever
boundaries
without
having
to
get
to
you
know,
move
all
of
your
data
into
the
cloud.
I
think
that's
kind
of
a
key
thing
we
need
to
you
know,
focus
on.
C
C
I
guess-
and
this
is
for
metaverse
you
know
mainly
because
I
don't
think
you
could
really
build
an
effective
metaverse
on
ethereum
just
because
of
the
transaction
cost
so
they're
looking
at
these
light
layer,
ones
that
decouple
the
consensus
from
the
transaction
environment
that
sort
of
stuff-
and
I'm
wondering,
if
that's
going
to
start
to
kind
of
drive
a
lot
of
the
you
know,
projects
going
forward
saying.
Why
do
we
need
to
use
ethereum
and
I'm
like
that's.
I
The
whole
value,
because
it's
going
to
it's
a
settlement
layer,
that's
where
these
d
defy
assets
are
ultimately
going
to
settle
within
within
the
ethereum
network.
I
mean
that's,
why
provide
has
been
so
focused
on
the
evm
and
within
the
ethereum
ecosystem,
because
most
of
the
enterprises
that
we're
building
with
are
focused
on
looking
to
settle
these
assets
within
within
within
ethereum,
and
that
goes
to
the
you
know
the
whole
premise
of
this
roll
up,
centric
architecture.
You
know
it
from
a
provided
perspective.
I
We
use
provided
network
as
the
layer
three
we
roll
up
from
there
to
polygon
roll
it
from
there
and
then
settle
on
ethereum,
it's
a
way
of
which
to
offsetting
the
high
computational
and
transaction
costs
that
will
arise
with
by
the
many
processes
that
are.
Ultimately,
you
know,
based
on
in
synchronized
utilizing
this.
Oh.
I
E
Yeah,
but
I
I
think
that
this
is
a
worthwhile
conversation
for
the
group
that
we
should
have
a
very
clear
narrative
on
importance
to
moving
proof
of
stake
and
the
impact
of
economics,
because,
as
mark
pointed
out,
the
economics
at
the
transaction
layer,
especially
for
an
enterprise
that
adds
up
really
quick
when
you're
talking
about
billions
of
transactions
between
an
erp
system
and
a
front
office
crm.
For
example
right.
We
have
to
have
a
very
clear
message
around
being
able
to
contain
that
cost.
Regardless
of
the
settlement
layer.
Jack
like
this.
D
E
I
And,
within
the
provide
network,
we
just
introduced
our
new
gas
token
or
native
gas
token
to
the
network
prvg
to
provide
gas
net
token,
and
that
will
be
leveraged
to
effectively
do
exactly
that.
Charles
and
you
know
it's
a
way
of
we've
talked
about
this
time
and
time
again,
it's
a
way
of
which
to
give
them
a
forecastable,
predictable
monthly
bill
that
will,
you
know,
kind
of
t-shirt,
size,
small,
medium
large.
As
far
as
this
is
what
you
can
expect
on
a
monthly
basis,
just
like
an
aws
bill.
E
Maybe
that's
maybe
that's
part
of
the
genesis
of
this.
We
need
to
have
a
better
clarity
on
the
things
that,
like
you,
guys,
have
been
working
on
in
in
isolation,
because
the
more
that
we
all
understand,
you
know
the
alternate
approaches
and
are
on
the
same
page.
With
this,
the
better
we
can
effectively
communicate
and
attract
people
into
using
the
right
technology
and
the
right
partners,
given
the
the
right
job
at
hand.