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From YouTube: The Baseline Protocol - February 2022 General Assembly
Description
The monthly meeting of the Baseline Protocol open source standards body community. https://baseline-protocol.org
Agenda:
1) Partnership update - Bloxmove, Concircle, Unibright [02:07]
2) Standards [20:00]
3) Sponsorship [22:38]
4) Core Devs [23:49]
5) Roadmap [24:09]
6) Outreach [26:37]
7) Open Floor [36:08]
B
Hey
everybody:
this
is
john
wilpert
and
the
the
big
baseline
crew
for
the
general
assembly
meeting
that
we
do
every
month.
Gonna
turn
promptly
over
to
sono
patel.
To
convene
this
meeting
and
we'll
be
back.
Did
we
decide
something
if
we're
going
to
do
next
week
or
if
we're
going
to
take
the
week
off
and
do
next
week
right.
C
All
right
so,
first
we're
going
to
discuss
a
new
partnership.
That's
going
on
in
the
baseline
community
with
a
few
companies
that
have
been
involved
for
a
while
and
then
we'll
go
through
our
normal
general
assembly
updates.
So
to
begin,
we
have
a
guest
joining
us
for
the
first
time
on
the
baseline
show
regarding
a
collaboration
of
blocks,
move
unibrite
and
con
circle
so
I'll
hand
over
to
stefan
from
unibright
for
an
introduction.
E
E
E
So
we
will
learn
from
from
harry
later
that
the
case
we
are
working
on
together
here
already
includes
a
decentralized
setup
of
network
participants.
It
already
includes
sap
systems.
It
includes
a
corda
based
solution
component,
and
this
is
also
personally
for
me,
the
exciting
thing
about
baseline,
that
it
now
adds
a
synchronization
layer
in
our
case
here,
base
ledger
to
synchronize
and
notarize
ongoing
data
exchange.
So
a
perfect
example
for
not
just
replacing
existing
technology
with
some
fancy
cutting
promises,
but
for
actual
integration
and
how
we
call
it
in
this
project
for
building
bridges
yeah.
F
Thank
you
very
much.
It's
a
pleasure
to
be
here
I
mean
and
yeah,
as
you
already
hinted
at
we've
already
been
working
with
you
and
your
colleagues
from
construct
for
quite
a
long
while
now
and
just
for
I'll,
keep
it
relatively
short.
So
blocksmove
is
a
company
that
has
a
background
in
daimler
financial
services
and
diamond
mobility.
F
So
I
found
it
and
headed
the
daimler
mobility
blockchain
factory,
which
is
the
first
and
probably
one
of
the
only
dedicated
team
that
applies
decentralized
technologies,
blockchain
among
them,
distributed
ledger,
but
also
very
much
decentralized
identifiers
to
tackle
strategic
markets
as
identified
by
domino
financial
services
at
the
time.
Daimler
financial
services
is
a
company
that
lives
off
the
life
cycle
of
the
vehicle.
So
within
this
daimler
group,
you've
got
two
big
blocks
that
manufacture
stuff.
F
It's
a
clear
trend
of
you
know:
the
transaction
gets
smaller
and
smaller
the
number
of
customers
gets
bigger
and
bigger,
and
the
whole
business
model
gets
more
digital
and
more
digital
and
therefore
with
higher
degree
of
necessary
higher
degree
of
automation
now
and
there's
a
and
this
market.
Now.
One
of
the
clear
trends
in
that
in
our
industry
is
that
mobility
is
not
perceived
mainly
anymore,
that
you
have
an
asset.
The
car,
but
rather
especially
the
urban
space
mobility
is
a
service
where
the
service
is
not.
F
This
scooter
or
that
bus
or
this
car,
the
services.
How
do
I
get
through
this
town
from
a
to
b
or
from
a
to
b,
to
c
to
d
in
the
most
convenient
and
appropriate
manner?
Depending
on
where
my
needs
and
demands
are,
I
might
be
walking,
I
might
cruise
along
with
an
e-scooter,
I
might
cycle
a
little
bit,
I
might
cut
across
town
in
a
trunk
subway
I
might
ride
hail,
but
my
purpose
here
is
not
this
and
that
vehicle.
My
purpose
is
just
to
move
mobility.
Urban
mobility,
mobility
as
a
service.
F
Now
I
come
back
to
this
whole
story
about
daimler
mobility,
blockchain
factory,
and
why
we
were
given
the
unique
opportunity
by
the
board
of
management
to
even
create
such
a
company.
It
was
because
you
have
fragmentation
at
all
levels,
so
the
transactions
are
getting
smaller
and
smaller,
and
more
and
more
the
market
and
the
product.
F
You
have
now
not
one
car
and
one
brand,
but
you
got
this
mode
and
that
mode
that
scooter
mult
micro
mobility,
buses,
several
companies
for
each
for
each
city,
you
got
multiple
cities,
so
it's
splintering
and
fragmenting
all
over
the
place.
And
if
you
have
an
ecosystem
which
you
analyze
to
be
fragmented,
then
decentralized
technologies
are
probably
a
good
fit,
because
fragmentation,
decentralization
they're,
essentially
yin
and
young
they're
very
similar,
but
fragmentation
sounds
negative.
It
broke
it
broke
decentralization,
sounds
more
freedom,
style
and
positive,
but
in
essence
they
expressed
the
same
thing.
F
So
that
is
what
we
did.
We
applied
decentralized
technology,
decentralized
design,
principles
to
build
a
shared
platform,
a
transaction,
a
shared
transaction
platform,
including
obviously,
a
shared
ledger
to
plug
to
allow
transport
operators,
the
ones
that
are
doing
the
physical
moving
and
mobility
providers,
the
ones
that
handle
the
customer
relationship
the
apps
roughly
to
plug
in
into
this
shared
network
and
conduct
business
such
that
each
of
these
mobility
providers.
F
They
can
bundle
the
services
that
are
available
present
them
to
their
customers,
sell
them
to
their
customers
and,
through
the
smart
use
of
decentralized
identifiers
and
verified
credentials.
Give
the
necessary
ticket
and
credential
to
this
customer
once
and
then
those
customers
just
go
cheek
cheek
check,
qr
code
style
check
into
the
scooter
check
into
the
bus.
Those
credentials
are
verified
like
sim
cards
and
voila.
F
Now
I
can
do
seamless,
smooth
roaming
across
services
in
all
aspects
of
mobility,
only
having
been
onboarded
once
just
as
each
one
of
you
is
only
onboarded
once
when
you
buy
a
sim
card,
and
then
you
roam
whenever
you
travel
you're,
actually
roaming
through
separate
mobility
providers.
So
what
we
realize
is
service
world.
F
So
we
apply
this
to
urban
mobility.
But
another
thing
that
came
out
of
this
by
sheer
nature
of
how
we
combine
decentralized
identifiers
for
verification
of
physical
facts
for
verification
of
physical
parties,
because
on
a
blockchain,
a
blockchain
is
a
tamper-proof
record
which
you
can
then
afterwards
say
nobody
tampered
with
it.
But
it
is
not
the
source
of
truth
and
will
never
be
because
I
can
put
a
record
in
there.
Harry
baron's
is
just
has
become
a
billionaire
boom.
The
moon
is
a
green
cheese
that
doesn't
make
it
true.
F
So,
in
order
to
conduct
meaningful
business
with
real
world
asset,
you
actually
need
to
ascertain
the
physical
truth
of
things.
Meaning
has
there
been
constant
agreement?
Has
this
charging
station
really
delivered
x
amount
of
kilowatt
hours
at
this
and
that
time?
Does
the
customer
really
have
a
contract
with
the
supplier?
Yes
or
no?
F
Has
the
ticket
or
the
access
rights
for
this
vehicle
really
been
provided,
and
is
the
customer
who's
presenting
that
ticket,
actually,
the
customer
it
was
issued
to
so
those
are
physical
facts,
and
this
is
where
decentralized
identifiers
and
the
associate
protocols
called
verified
credentials
come
in
beautifully
to
solve
that
and
in
the
combination
of
the
one
crypto
set
of
protocols.
It's
also
crypto
protocols
like
based
on
centralized
identity
and
blockchain
to
do
the
secure
transaction
and
then
a
shared
ledger,
which
in
our
case
is
a
quarter.
F
There
is
a
number
of
once
you
couple
the
cpo
and
bring
them
into
the
mobility
sector,
and
this
is
by
the
way
why
we
call
power
and
mobility,
because
we
see
ourselves
as
the
company
that
brings
the
necessary
technology
to
combine
power
and
mobility.
And
the
touch
point
is
the
electric
vehicle
with
the
battery
inside
and
the
charging
station
once
you
hook
them
up
together,
then
the
electric
vehicle
is
actually
a
physical
part
of
the
power
grid,
while
at
the
same
time
being
contained
in
a
physical
asset,
which
is
a
mobility
asset
and
also
here.
F
The
products
that
we
are
developing
are
all
based
on
verification
on
credentials,
on
proving
that
things
happen
on
collecting
the
billing
records
and
then
putting
them
into
the
shared
ledger.
Now,
when
that
brought
us-
and
now
I
can
hopefully
give
back
that-
brought
us
in
close
contact
with
this
group
here,
because
we
are
not
owned.
We
are
not
a
pure
pure
crypto,
just
crypto
for
the
crypto
say,
but
our
customers,
especially
in
europe,
will
be
corporates
and
the
source
of
truth.
F
The
final
place
where
things
hit
the
road
is
year-end
closing
tax,
auditing
balance
sheet
and
profit
and
loss
is
not
counted
in
cash
and
most
definitely
not
in
some
kind
of
token.
It's
counted
in
your
erp
general
ledger.
So
as
long
as
you're
not
able
to
you
can
do
this
beautifully
shared
distributed
transactions
where
transactions
are
completely
counted
and
transacted
and
proven
and
put
into
a
transaction
record
or
even
a
sub-ledger,
but
until
they
find
their
way
into
the
downstream
general
ledger,
they
will
never
find
their
way
into
the
profit
of
loss.
F
They
will
not
be
recognized
as
revenue.
They
will
not
never
find
their
way
into
the
general
ledger.
So
if
you
do
not
combine
that
which
is
downstream
and
will
stay
downstream,
the
source
of
truth
for
many
years
to
come,
oftentimes
sap,
but
any
type
of
general
ledger
accounting
system,
you
cannot
claim
to
be
providing
a
service
that
is
truly
seamless
to
integrate
by
corporate
corporate
entities.
And
this
is
what
brings
us
together
here,
because
we
saw
based
on
what
we
you
know.
F
We
got
to
know
each
other,
and
this
is
where
the
match
is
where
we
believe
that
using
coda
as
an
intermediate
sub
ledger
to
share
le
financial
data
among
the
participants
in
this
sub-ledger
level.
We
also
now
need
to
make
sure
that
each
party
can
first
easily
exchange
it
down
to
the
general
ledger
where
we
see
this
integration
with
sap
as
the
first
step.
E
No
thanks
perfectly
perfectly
fine.
I
mean
that's
also
the
interesting
part
of
what
we
call
bridging
or
what
I
call
bridging
in
the
introduction,
because
you
clearly
showed
that
there's
not
only
a
bridge
needed
between,
let's
say
concepts
or
yeah,
perhaps
even
visions
when
you
come
when
you
look
at
it
from
from
a
product
level,
but
there's
so
much
bridging
into
the
current
state
of
the
world.
E
If
we
think
about
the
sap
systems
and
the
yeah
still
the
the
hurdle
hurdles
that
have
to
be
that
have
to
be
taken
until
you
can
combine
these
two
systems
and
as
as
you
said,
I
totally
agree
it
will
be.
It
will
still
be
for
years
to
come
that,
for
example,
an
sap
system
is
the
the
ultimate
source
of
truth
from
an
inter
enterprise
view.
G
Maybe
also
stefan,
if
I
want
to
comment
on
that,
I
want
to
comment
on
that
just
to
keep
the
domain
models,
the
data
structures,
everything
was
built
up
on
blocks,
move
level,
just
let
them
keep
their
world.
You
know
and
therefore,
also
this
investigation
with
superior
comes
in
place.
How
to
handle
different
domain
models.
F
F
So
we
actually
in
a
way
it's
point
to
point
or
its
ring
to
its
hub
to
its
ring
to
downstream,
where
we
basically
integrate
now
into
sap,
but
one
thing
that
we
see
ultimately
being
very,
very
relevant,
and
I
believe
that
is
something
that
the
baseline
protocol
seems
to
be
approaching
in
a
very
nice
way.
Is
that
corporates?
F
And
if
you
look
at
decentralized
world,
obviously
that
will
not
change
it
will
just
be.
You
need
more
bridges
for
your
workflow,
because
it's
not
running
internally
anymore,
but
you
need
essentially
a
I
don't
like
the
word
universal,
very
much,
but
you
need
a
public
or
general
generally
accessible
workflow
to
really
process
transactions
in
the
commercial
world.
F
And
if
somebody
comes
and
says
not
only
do
we
give
you
a
shared
consensus,
but
we
actually
give
you
a
way
which
is
very
convenient
to
model
very
convenient
to
talk
about,
which
is
the
bpmn
world,
the
workflow
mode.
Then
that
is
very,
very
powerful,
because
I
can
tell
you,
for
instance,
internally,
when
we
develop
anything.
The
intermediate
language
of
choice
is
a
bpmn,
a
swimlane,
because
everybody
understands
a
swimlane.
F
You
go
to
a
business
man,
they
understand
the
swim
name,
of
course,
but
the
developer
understands
the
swim
lane
it's
a
piece
of
cake
to
transform
it
into
a
sequence
diagram
and
for
the
business
person
it's
a
piece
of
cake
to
map
it
to
their
business
processes.
So
that
very
pragmatic
approach
is
one
of
the
things
we
believe
has
future.
We
only
hope
it
will
gain
acceptance.
It's
not
always
the
best
ideas
that
win,
but
the
idea
is
definitely
powerful
and
very
valid.
C
F
C
B
B
We're
still
on
track.
I
think
we've
slow
rolled
a
little
bit,
the
you
know
moving
you
know
pushing
to
you
know
the
the
final
ratification
of
the
of
the
draft
standard.
It
is
in
draft.
It
is
it's
all
set
it's
with
oasis,
but
it
you
know.
I
think
that
we
want
to
see
more
implementations,
so
it's
very
heartening
to
hear
about
things
like
that.
B
There's
some
other
news
coming
out
about
people
requiring
baseline
or
or
you
know,
coordination
under
zero
knowledge
capabilities
and
the
more
we
can
get
clients
to
come
clean
and
say
that
they're
using
it
the
better
because
that's
important,
that's
part
of
the
standards
ratification
process.
If
a
standard
is
not
being
used,
it
cannot
be
ratified,
so
really
encourage
everybody.
I
mean
you
know
some
of
the
companies
involved
here
were
very
early
too.
B
You
know,
maybe
even
a
year
or
so
too
early
or
more
early
than
you
know
normally
is
normal
in
enterprise.
You
know,
because
it's
we've
had
those
stories
out
for
a
while,
and
you
know
they're
still
in
development,
but
I
also
know
there
are
companies
out
there
that
are
practically
in
production
and
aren't
telling
anybody
about
it.
So
if
your
client
is
like
that,
then
you
know-
maybe
maybe
it's
time
for
them
to
at
least
let
us
know
yeah
so
that
we
can
get
them
into
the
standards
ratification.
C
Awesome
and
I'd
just
like
to
add
that
the
standards
group
is
working
closely
with
the
core
devs
now
to
complete
a
standards,
implementation
guide
and
start
discussing
the
test
harness
and
test
net.
So
the
groups
will
be
collaborating
there
coming
up
all
right
and
next
up.
Sponsorship
updates
from
carol.
A
Hey
everybody.
We
are
super
excited
to
have
the
new
website
and
I
think
that's
going
to
help
a
lot
with
sponsorship
recruiting
as
well
as
educating
the
world,
but
just
attracting
people,
and
it
gives
me
a
much
better
place
to
point
perspective.
Sponsors
too.
So
congratulations
to
the
go
to
market
team
and
sonal
for
really
getting
that
launched.
A
It
will
feature,
as
I
mentioned
last
time,
a
special
section
called
get
baselined,
which
will
connect
prospective
buyers
with
our
sponsors
and
we
will
just
connect
them,
provide
the
information
for
them
to
get
together
and
let
people
who
are
looking
for
help,
whether
it's
tools
or
services
on
baseline,
to
connect
them
with
our
sponsors,
so
we're
trying
to
collect
information
from
sponsors
right
now
to
go
on
that
page
and
I've
tried
to
reach
out
to
every
sponsor.
But
if
anybody
watching
this
has
questions
about
that.
C
H
Thank
you
sonal,
so
I
think
I
I'm
very
excited
about
the
activity
that
you're
carrying
out.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
all
the
time
that
you're
taking
and
conducting
those
one-on-one
sessions.
So
we
do
expect
you
know
very
interesting
inputs
to
come
out
and
I
think
everything
is
on
the
table.
You
know
we're
thinking
of
how
do
we
better
utilize
grants
funds
to
developing
sdks
to
developing
a
test,
harness,
etc,
getting
more
and
more
friendlier
with
developers
as
much
as
we
can
and
yeah?
H
B
No
samurai,
I
think
that's
I
mean
all
of
us,
who've,
had
the
pleasure
of
going
through
that
those
sessions
with
sonal.
I
thought
it
was
brilliant
idea
that
sonal
just
went
one-on-one
with
or
went
on
some
with
people.
It
brought
out
ideas
that
wouldn't
have
happened
if
we'd
been
on
a
big
group
meeting
and
yeah.
B
C
Yeah
each
session
was
super
unique.
I
think
there
was
at
least
one
point
in
every
call
where
I
was
just
like
wow.
That's
a
great
idea
whether
or
not
it's
from
the
road
map.
I
know
many
people
would
be
a
fan
of
this,
so
it
was
really
nice
to
get
each
member's
flavor
of
thoughts
on
how
we
should
focus
efforts
this
year.
So
that
was
really
awesome
and
looking
forward
to
publishing
that.
D
D
As
far
as
you
know,
we
want
to
look
at
it
from
you
know
the
perspective
of
the
person
that's
going
to
actually
visit
the
website
to
find
out
more
and
that
we
can
really
spoon
feed
them
and
hand
hold
them.
As
far
as
saying
hey,
this
is
a
very
elegant
solution
to
a
problem
that
you
may
be
experiencing,
and
one
thing
that
we're
running
into
is
you
know
a
baseline
implementation
compared
to
other
of
the
type
of
platform
installations
is,
is
just
so
simple.
D
D
D
We
have
a
new
member
kit,
that's
gonna
be
coming
out
this
week,
we're
still
you
know,
putting
a
little
bit
of
the
finishing
touches
on
it,
but
it's
focused
on
community
members.
You
know
who
join
and
you
know
really
want
to
kind
of
get
some
clarification
so
that
they're
very
you
know
very
well
versed
and
very
just
aware
of
everything
that
needs
to
be
done
on
their
baseline
journey.
D
We're
also
taking
a
new
expanding
that
idea
and
having
a
behind
the
baseline
segment,
and
this
is
where
we
back
actually
have.
You
know
informational
interviews
with
people
who
are,
you
know,
work
in
industries
that
really
could
sorely
benefit
from
using
baseline,
and
you
know
we're
also
doing
some
internal
refinements
as
well.
You
know
we
want
to
get
our
internal
communications,
you
know
really
nice
and
nice
and
clean
and
concise.
D
So
we're
doing
a
lot
of
you
know
a
lot
of
housekeeping
items,
as
someone
mentioned
earlier
within
the
core
devs
we're
trying
to
you
know,
make
sure
everything
is.
You
know
nice
and
clean
and
easily
consumable
from
someone
that
says
you
know
I'm
yeah.
I
want
to
find
out
a
little
bit
more
about
this,
but
I'm
naturally
skeptical
we
want
to
be
able
to.
You
know,
break
that
down
pretty
quickly.
D
At
the
same
time
we
are
putting
together.
You
know
breaking
down
the
outreach
teams
into
a
little
bit
more
granularity
so
that
we
can
so
we
don't
have
too
many
people
having
to
wear
too
many
hats
because
it
starts
to
dilute,
I
think,
the
effectiveness
and
the
overall
output.
So
we're
going
to
be,
you
know,
kind
of
subdividing
the
people
on
the
team
they're
going
to
be
working
on
marketing,
collateral
and
sales
enablement.
D
D
So
you
know
we.
We
have
a
open
request
to
anyone
that
wants
to
come
and
get
involved.
You
know
we
could
certainly
use
your
your
experience
and
your
mindset
and
and
your
input
you
know
sodom
and
I
you
know
we
sit
there.
We
tell
everyone,
we
stand
on
the
shoulders
of
giants
and
we
need
you
know
as
many
giants
really
helping
us
as
possible.
So
that's
really
what
we
had
going
on
right
now.
So.
B
Hey
mark
you
know
this
is
pretty
exciting.
I
can't
wait
to
get.
You
know
be
able
to
have
that
deck,
especially
as
there's
a
couple
of
of
more
than
a
couple.
You
know
solutions,
vendors
that
you
know
are
just
kind
of
chomping
at
the
bit
to
build
baseline
practices
and
they
you
know
they
got
to
start
with
a
deck,
so
they
can
convince
their
colleagues
and
their
clients
to
go
that
way.
But
I
wonder
how
are
we
approaching
and
and
how
and
how?
B
How
forcefully
are
we
approaching
really
bringing
on
and
appealing
to
any
company?
That's
doing,
multi-party
transformation
projects
and
any
party
that's
doing
cryptography
and
infosec,
especially
around
zero
knowledge?
I
should
think
that
you
know
over
the
next
20
years.
Baseline
is
where
all
of
those
folks
are
going
to
want
to
be
they're
going
to
want
to
be
heavily
involved
even
more
than
blockchain
companies
and
people
like
that
right,
I
mean,
if
you're
in
zk,
you're
going
to
want
to
be
on
the
baseline.
B
B
D
Well,
we
basically
use
a
multi-pronged
approach.
I
mean
certainly
on
the
website.
I
mean
there
is
a.
There
is
a
a
button
on
there
that
we'll
go
ahead
and
you
know
join
the
community.
You
know
we're
only
as
strong
as
the
community
and
we
want
to.
You
know,
make
it
as
easy
that
you
can
sign
up
and
come
in
and
contribute,
and
if
you
have
a
lot
of
companies
that
are
really
starting
to
you
know,
take
a
serious
look
at
it.
It
would
behoove
them
to
have.
D
B
B
D
Yeah
well
and
zero
knowledge
really
has
made
an
enormous
amount
of
strides
within
the
l2
space.
You
know
anyway,
because
it's
starting
to
distill
into
almost
two
different
approaches.
If
you're
going
to
be
scaling,
you
know,
especially
if
you're
ethereum,
based
how
you're
gonna
be
scaling
your
solution.
D
Well,
but
zk
and
but
you're
starting
to
see
you
know
it's
starting
to
distill
down
that
you
have
zk
roll
ups
and
you
have
optimistic
rolex
and
each
yeah,
it's
two
different
flavors
and
each
would
probably
you
know,
have
some
strengths
in
some
use
cases
and
you
know
be
useless
in
in
others
and
so
doing
the
laps
around
the
track.
You
know
really
is
a
way
of
finding
out.
You
know
which
one
works
for
each
so,
but
anyway,
yeah
moving
forward.
You
know
definitely
watch
this
space.
D
We
want
to
get
as
many
people
involved
as
possible,
we're
having
a
lot
of
content
that
is
starting
to
come
out
and
hit
the
social
forums,
a
big
shout
out
to
jack
wearing
who
had
this
really
cool
little
video,
showing
a
moonlock
by
an
astronaut
on
the
moon
so
kudos
to
that
one.
This
it's
it's
really
cool,
but
I
mean
it's
one
of
those
we
want
to
have
the
awareness
out
there
and
we
want
to
anticipate
whatever
questions
people
are
going
to
have.
D
You
know
about
it
because
you
know
people
say
you
know.
Why
is
this
not
a
more
complex,
expensive
implementation?
We're
like
because
we
designed
it
not
to
be
you
know:
you're
gonna,
you've
already
spent
enough
money
on
on
your
own
infrastructure.
You're,
definitely
gonna
want
to
keep
it
and
so
yeah.
D
This
is
a
way
of
making
it
better,
and
this
is
a
way
of
actually
creating
value
not
only
to
yourself
but
also
to
your
counterparties,
and
so
everybody
you
know,
does
not
need
to
worry
about
data
reconciliation
or
the
data
sharing,
and
all
of
that
they
can
just
go
ahead
and
go
throughout
whatever
their
works.
Workflows
are
so,
but
that's
what
I
had
you
know
basically
within
enablement
and
go
to
market.
C
All
of
the
community
members
are
heads
down
working
on
various
things
and
looking
forward
to
the
march
updates.
Hopefully
there
will
be
some
exciting
improvements
in
the
things
you
mentioned
today
and
with
that
I'd
like
to
open
the
floor
to
everybody
else
on
the
call
any
questions,
topics
updates
or
things
you'd
like
to
mention.
D
Well,
the
only
thing
that
I
would
have
to
say
that
maybe
you
know
coming
on
the
heels
of
what
I
just
said
is:
I
am
getting
a
lot
of
inquiries.
You
know
for
specific
type
of
collateral
that
we're
starting
to
work
on
together
and
say
you
know
most
commonly.
Is
you
know,
can
you
show
us
really
an
easily
consumable?
D
B
I'm
sure
I
understand
that
though
I
I
saw
that
on
the
slack
the
other
day,
what
does
it
mean
to
be
baseline
value
versus
not
baseline
value?
The
value
is
the
same
right.
You
still
need
you
need
to
coordinate
with
other
companies,
but
just
you
know
you
just
want
to
do
it
with
better
security
and
less
leaking
of
information.
B
Have
a
baseline
use
case
in
a
not
baseline
use
case
you
you
either.
You
know
you
can
apply
baseline
as
a
technique
to
a
use
case
or
not.
So
I
I
wasn't.
I
was
hard
pressed
to
think
of
how
you
would
draw
a
venn
diagram
in
that
way
I
mean
there's
other
kinds
of
diagrams
you
could
draw,
but
a
venn
diagram
was
harder
for
me
to
think
about.
D
D
D
B
D
B
Yes,
although
you
know,
if
you,
if
you
don't
want,
if
you
don't
need
non-repudiation
and
you
don't-
I
mean
you
can
do
reconciliation
without
baselining
right,
I
mean
you
know.
The
question
is:
do
you
need
to
prove
things
about
share
information
to
others
without
sharing
the
actual
information
right.
H
B
G
H
And
then
there
are
all
sorts
of
counterparty
risk
management,
audits
and
compliances
and
just
goes
on
so
so
I
think
it
avoids
all
that
so
I'm
in
talks
with
the
company
called
dc
council
to
to
do
that
report.
Maybe
we'll
present
a
grant
proposal
very
very
soon.
For
that,
and
I
think
what
comes
out
of
that
report
is
going
to
act
as
ammunition
for
the
next
wave
of
people
who
are
going
to
jump
onto
the
baseline
bus.
That
is
something
which
I
truly
believe.
D
Well
and
what
we
want
to
do
within
enablement
is
we
want
to.
You
know,
of
course
convince
that
one
person
who
is
the
interested
party
but
give
them
the
tools
that
they
need
to
then
go,
take
it
to
their
team
and
convince
them.
We
want
people
evangelizing
we
want
to.
You
know
we
want
to
mint
cheerleaders.
You
know
and
storytellers.
H
Toastmasters,
so
you
know
just
like
last
time
you
know.
Last
week
we
had
this
gentleman
from
hcl
join
us,
so
he's
he's
been
talking.
I
mean
he's
he's
made
two
introductions
since
then,
since
last
saturday,
within
fcl,
and
that
is
a
big
company
to
have
right
to
on
on
baseline,
I
would
say
so
so
yeah.
Let's
hope
you
know
things
go
in
the
right
direction
and
yeah
a
very
big,
a
very
big
layer
to
protocol
is
also
interested
to
to
to
be
participating.
H
C
So
I
mentioned
to
that
individual
that
one
of
the
most
useful
things
they
could
provide
back
to
the
baseline
community
on
that
encounter
is
exactly
what
their
questions
were,
what
words
and
things
tripped
them
up.
Did
they
have
like
that,
the
pointer
at
blockchain
in
the
first
opening
statements
or
what
it
was?
I
think
that
would
be
huge
at
this
stage
to
understand.
B
There's
a
two-edged
sword,
the
word
baseline
is
the
is
both
the
word
good?
It's
good,
because
you
know
you
focuses
the
attention,
but
it
also
creates
all
those
questions
because
it
seems,
like
you
know
it.
You
know
I
gotta
unpack
this
product
or
this
thing,
if
you,
if
you
know
it's
almost
like
you
should
go
in,
you
know.
Okay,
this
is
baseline.
The
first
thing
you
say:
isn't
the
word
baseline,
you
just
say,
look
forget
about
baseline.
This
is
about
zero
knowledge.
B
You
know
coordination
under
you
know
under
high
information
security
and
then
people
like
okay,
I
get
that
and
then
you
say
and
they're
the
following
techniques
for
doing
that
and
they're
going
to
absorb
it
right.
But
somehow,
when
you
try
to
pack
concepts
into
this
into
a
single
word,
people
get
very
confused
right,
yeah,
and
so
I
think
that
might
be.
It
is
they're
like
well,
I've
never
heard
of
baselining.
So
it
must
be
complicated
and
hard
for
me
to
understand.
But
if
you
just
say
look,
there
are
some
techniques
for,
for
you.
B
D
B
G
B
D
They
don't
really
accomplish
what
we
think
baseline
could
do,
and
they
don't
do
it
as
elegantly
just
because
I
think
they
contemplate
displacing
part
of
the
architecture.
You've
got
to
you
know,
tear
out
you
know
and
and
replace
it
with
this
new
solution,
which
is
always,
you
know,
a
tricky
thing,
but
you
know
at
the
same
time
I
think
they're
trying
to
go
on
it
with
too
much
of
a
robust.
I
mean
it's
almost
like
you
know,
you're
trying
to
water,
your
flower
garden
with
a
fire
hose.
D
B
D
B
D
And
the
big
thing
is:
is
the
bonding
company
in
order
to
properly
price
the
bond
needs
an
enormous
amount
of
information
that
you
would
not
want
your
competitors
or
anybody
sniffing
around
you
know
becoming
aware
of
you
know
not
only
what
you're
doing,
but
even
your
presence.
We
don't
want
you
knowing
that
hey
we've
got
something
that
we're
you
know
requesting
a
bond
for.
Well,
what
are
you
doing
for
and
if
it's
a
large
amount
hey,
you
must
be
doing
something
big.
D
B
B
Maybe
on
the
website
like
the
first
thing
is
hey.
You
want
to
figure
out
a
baseline
first
thing.
You
do
go
and
play
battleship
right,
so
maybe
we,
I
would
be
very
good
to
really
promote
the
hell
out
of
the
battleship
game
and
then
from
the
battleship
game.
You
want
to
get
serious
about
it
in
a
business
perspective,
bonds
right,
you
know,
there's
the
bond
thing
right
and
so
kind
of
get
people
on
a
progression,
a
train
so
that
we
aren't
having
the
I
don't
you
know.
B
What
are
the
examples
right
well
here
are
the
examples
of
the
very
right
in
the
middle
of
the
website.
It's
the
very
first
thing.
You
see,
go,
try
battleship!
You
know,
I
think,
we're
still
a
little
anemic.
If
I'm,
if
I'm
honest
about
promoting
these
projects,
although
we're
getting
better
and
better
every
day,.
D
Well,
and
what
we
do
is
we
want
to
really
also
kind
of
you
know,
put
a
lot
of
stuff
that
you
know
being
mindful
of
the
non-technical
audience.
You
know
the
people
that
generally
are
going
to
be
controlling
the
budgets
and
have
the
operational
authority
to
say
hey.
I
need
you
to
do
this.
You
know
they
understand
different
language
than
the
technical
audience
and
in
fact,
if
you
try
and
do
some
cross-pollination
of
that
technical
jargon,
it's
an
easy
way
of
actually
kind
of
losing
your.
A
B
That's
that's!
That's
the
that's
the
what
you
were
talking
about
before
I'm
talking
about
making
sure
that
these
technical
projects
get
in
the
hands
of
new
technical
people
and
that
you
know,
and
it
smooths
the
smooths
the
road
for
developers
to
go.
Oh,
I,
okay.
That
gives
me
ideas.
Okay,
now
I've
got
code
in
my
hands.
C
And
there's
a
few
ideas
on
how
to
execute
that
in
these
road
mapping.
Sessions
happening
so
angle
have
a
clear
path
forward
on
that
and
one
of
the
previous
companies
I
was
mentioning
who's
using
or
looking
into
baseline,
actually
said
that
they
really
utilized
the
battleship
example
and
what
they
were
doing
and
how
are
they,
how
they
were
presenting
it
to
people.
H
B
H
D
B
B
Could
I
I'd
like
to
make
one
plug
next
week,
denver
if
anybody's
going
lots
going
on
please
if
you
have
anything
going
on,
you
should
announce
it
here.
I
will
say
that
we
will
be
unless,
unless
andreas
calls
me
tomorrow
in
the
morning
and
tells
me
that
it's
too
broken
to
to
launch,
we
will
be
launching
it
on
friday,
at
I
think,
10
40
or
10
15
denver
time
on
the
temple
stage
at
east
denver,
and
this
is
using
zero
knowledge
proofs.
B
The
art,
that's
a
pretty
neat
trick
in
the
world
of
ones
and
zeros,
where,
if
you
have
access
to
a
file-
and
you
can
see
it-
you
can
copy
it.
I
I
think
it's
brilliant.
I
think
the
work
that
andreas
and
envision
did
on
it
is
amazing
and
it's
a
great
use
of
a
demonstration
of
recursive,
zero
knowledge,
proofs
and
the
use
of
a
deposition
of
of
zero
knowledge
proofs
onto
a
public
substrate
in
our
current
beta.
That's
on
ipfs,
for
reasons
of
trying
to
keep
things
simple,
but
there's
no
reason.
A
C
Awesome
all
righty,
I
know
some
people
in
the
chat
were
saying
the
grant.
The
grandfather
clock
is
coming
soon,
john,
but
I
think
we're
we're
ready
to
wrap
up
this
february
general
assembly.
Thank
you
all
for
joining
us
and
providing
updates,
and
thank
you
all
for
viewing
and
following
along
see
you
all
in
a
month
yeah
one.
B
Last
thing
is,
we
probably
did
kind
of
blow
it.
We
could
have
probably
sent
an
army
of
baseliners
to
ethember
this
year
and
and
got
them
at
the
at
the
hackathon.
I
don't
know
why
it
didn't
occur.
To
me
I
mean
you
know,
I'm
just,
but
I
feel
like
a
knucklehead
for
that.
Let's
make
sure
next
time
and
and
for
the
ones
that
are
coming
up
in
the
spring
and
summer
that
that
we've
just
got
armies
of
you
know,
people
like
keith
and
mark,
and
they.