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From YouTube: The Baseline Protocol - January 2022 General Assembly
Description
The monthly meeting of the Baseline Protocol open source standards body community. https://baseline-protocol.org
Agenda:
1) Standards Team [00:51]
2) Outreach Team [04:03]
3) Sponsorship[ 07:05]
4) TSC / Roadmap [08:20]
5) Grants [14:54]
6) Core Devs [19:50]
7) Open Floor [21:03]
A
A
B
Oh
all,
right,
hi,
everybody
welcome
to
our
january
baseline
general
assembly.
We
have
a
pretty
big
group
here,
I'm
not
sure
if
you
can
see
everybody
who's
off
camera,
but
we
have
folks
from
different
companies
and
just
others
in
the
community
joining
us
as
well
today
and
we'll
go
through
our
normal
general
assembly
updates
and
then
we'll
have
an
open
floor
with
any
leftover
time.
C
Hello,
everyone
happy
new
year
hope
everybody
is
safe,
healthy
and
you
know
new
year
has
kicked
off
well.
So
as
far
as
the
standard
is
concerned,
we're
still
in
a
bit
of
a
cleanup
mode,
some
clarifications,
nothing
really
that
impacts
requirements.
The
anybody
wants
to
follow
along.
There
are
a
couple
of
open,
open,
pr's
and
issues
that
are
currently
being
discussed,
primarily
raised
by
by
or
raised
by
charles
from
from
the
ea
we're
working
through
those
again.
C
It's
it's
we're
we're
niggling
at
the
edges
here
we
have
our
next
call
on
tomorrow.
Actually
the
7
a.m.
Pacific
10
a.m,
eastern
3
pm
g
gmt.
So
please
join
one
of
the
things.
Besides
our
usual
pr
and
and
issues
review
is
going
to
discuss
next
work
items
that
we
that
we
should
be
should
be
should
be
looking
at
in
terms
of
either
improve
the
current
version
of
the
standard
or
slash
anything
that
that
we
should
be
adding.
D
D
As
far
as
how
to
you
know,
really
grab
the
audience
right
now
we're
working
on
everything
pretty
much
as
a
single
deck,
and
then
we
will
start
to
really
distill
it
a
little
bit
further.
You
know
to
kind
of
focus
on
those
areas
that
probably
need
a
little
bit
more
of
attention,
and
then
you
know
really
get
a
clear
picture
of.
You
know
what
it
is,
what
it
isn't
and
how
it
can
be
used
and
how
can
derive
real
value
within
a
real
world
application.
D
So
all
of
that
should
be
finished
by
the
end
of
the
month.
Really
and
we've
had
several
working
sessions
moving
along.
So
that's
really
where
we
are
as
far
as
enablement.
What
we
wanna
do
is
we
wanna
yeah?
You
only
get
one
chance
to
get
it
right,
and
so
we
wanna
avail
ourselves
of
getting
it
correct.
The
first
time
many
of
us
are
veterans
of
a
lot
of
blockchain
projects,
and
so
we
have
a
lot
of
well-meaning
mistakes
that
we
can
draw
upon.
D
B
Awesome
thanks
for
that
mark
and
just
to
piggyback
off
of
that.
If
anybody
in
this
group
or
watching
would
like
to
join
our
enablement
sessions
as
we
start
having
a
more
final
draft
ready,
it'd
be
cool
to
even
have
some
of
you
take
a
look
and
give
us
some
pointers
and
kind
of
tear
it
apart
for
us,
so
we
can
get
another
a
few
more
sets
of
eyes
on
it.
E
E
We're
also
excited
about
everything
the
outreach
group
is
doing
in
terms
of
the
website
with
get
baselined
in
the
use
cases.
I
think
that's
going
to
help
broaden
our
sponsorship
base
and
bring
in
some
more
companies.
I've
been
working
with
john
and
sonal
about
you
know,
reaching
out
to
the
channel
software
kind
of
companies
trying
to
re-engage,
get
salesforce
oracle.
B
F
Sure
so
I
think
you
know
we,
we
are
planning
a
tsc
session
and
then
the
roadmap
designing
sessions
for
right
is
the
first
matter
of
to
pick
up
in
2022..
I
think
that's
the
that's
the
biggest
thing
that
I'm
looking
forward
to
right
now
and,
of
course,
there
are
tons
of
enablement
sessions
which
are
which
have
been
on
our
agenda
for
for
up
for
a
while
now,
so
I
don't
have
any
other
updates.
As
of
now
john,
do
you
want
to
add
something
here.
A
F
A
A
A
I
even
want
to
see
us,
maybe
commission,
a
a
you
know
like
a
gardener.
Foresters
type
study
that
breaks
out
multi-party
workflows
from
just
workflow
management
in
general,
which
is
somewhere
between
a
6
billion
and
50
billion
dollar
industry
right
now,
depending
on
what
you
include
in
the
package,
so
how
much
of
that
is
multi-party
versus
hey
we
opening
we
need
to
integrate
some
systems
is,
is
is
sort
of
you
know.
G
A
To
find
and
even
yeah
richard
said
that
it's
hard
to
find
that
kind
of
data,
and
yet
we
all
know
viscerally
right.
I
mean
that
that
especially
in
the
world
of
supply
chain,
you
know
that
there
is
a
you
know:
a
real
need
to
get
away
from.
Just
you
know,
trading
email
around
and
slips
of
paper
and
phone
calls
yeah.
So
that's
that's
kind
of
where
we're
at
and
I
think
we're
going
to
see
a
lot
of
influx.
B
Thank
you.
So,
thanks
for
the
update,
john
and
xamarin
it'll
be
nice
to
have
our
road
mapping
session,
because
I
think
it's
going
to
feed
into
some
new
baseline
improvement
proposals
work
for
our
core
devs.
It's
going
to
be
the
ideas
for
more
grants
to
come
and
just
kind
of
pave
the
way
for
the
direction
for
2022.
So
looking
forward
to
those
lengthy
sessions
by
the
tsc
and
next
I
will
give
a
brief
update
on
our
grant
work.
So
we.
C
Can
just
step
in
here
for
one
second,
so
it's
like
it's
like
just
john
miner
correction.
Baselining
requires
a
zero
knowledge
proof
of
correctness,
so
that
that's
that's
you
can.
You
can
have
different
types
of
of
zero
knowledge
proofs,
but
it
does
require
that
is
r225
is
the
output
from
a
work
step?
Execution
must
be
a
valid
zero
knowledge
proof
of
correctness,
of
the
input
generated
by
the
ppi
executing
the
work
step.
A
A
A
B
A
Oh
yeah,
so
very
good
news.
I
I
think
there
is
a
party
on
this
call
who
can
confirm
it,
but
I
don't
want
to
out
them
unless
they
want
to
come
forward,
but
we
have
a
verbal
confirmation
of
a
50
50
000
match
to
the
grant
program
for
2022,
and
I
can
confirm
that
my
budget
has
been
approved
and
we
have
a
grant
we'll
be
putting
in
certainly
50
000.
A
If
and
if
not
more
going
forward
with
some
of
that
coming
in
in
january,
so
it
and
we
will
be
putting
to
the
pgb
tomorrow,
night
or
tomorrow
afternoon,
a
proposal
for
an
amendment
to
how
we
manage
the
grants
such
that
we
can
widen
the
grant,
funding
sources
and
sonal,
I
think,
is
working
at
this
is
not
a
promise.
You
know
this
is
live
stream,
so
I
got
to
be
careful.
A
This
is
not
assured,
but
we're
seeing
if
the
open
collective
system
that
we
use
for
this
is
ready
to
accept
a
crypto
that
is,
that
would
be
great,
but
it's
not
capable
yet
or
even
if
it
would
be
something
that
we
can
pass
through
the
pgb
as
a
policy.
That
said,
we're
working
on
it.
I
think
we
can
report
that
so
everybody
get
out
your
your
your
your
wallets,
it's
time
to
start
filling
up
the
grants
thing.
A
A
I
think
the
the
thing
that
we
haven't
nailed
quite
yet
is
the
packaging
of
the
outputs
of
these
projects
into
really
big
bangs.
So
I
think
we're
hiding
some
of
our
stuff
under
a
bushel.
As
some
might
say
you
know,
does
everybody
in
the
world
know
about
the
xl
projects?
Plural.
Does
everybody
in
the
world
yeah
know
about
the
wonderful
stuff
that
luis
and
and
boris
did
around
zk
libraries
for
bonds?
A
No
does
everybody
know
in
the
world
know
about
battleship
not
yet,
and
so
we've
got
some
work
to
do
on.
I'm
just
making
sure
that
each
of
these
is
well
publicized
and
you
know
that
you
know
we
bang
the
drum
when
these
things
happen,
but
so
I
think
that's
something
we
have
to
work
on.
I
will
find.
Finally,
I
will
report
that
I
made
a
mistake
when
solo
came
on.
A
I
did
not
inform
her
that
the
system
through
which
we
pay
money
for
these
grants
takes
a
surcharge,
and
so
we
spent
100
000,
but
we
did
not
have
exactly
one
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
spend
because
of
that,
so
we
went
over
a
little
bit.
We
got
it
covered,
but
in
the
interest
of
transparency
I
want
everybody
to
know
that
that
that
we
went
over
by
a
small
amount.
You
know
you
know
the
transaction
fee
amount,
and
so
it
it
it's
gonna
get
covered.
A
But
under
certain
conditions
like
you
know,
some
of
that
money
will
actually
go
to
sponsorship.
So
stay
tuned
on
that.
But
watch
in
the
chat
when
I
find
the
link
and
I'll
and
and
if
you're,
if
you're
on
here
and
you
guys
want
to
sponsor
and
you're,
not
sponsored
but
put
grant
money
and
you
you
would
be
able
to.
B
All
right,
thank
you.
So
next
I'll
just
give
a
quick
record
of
update,
so
we
have
about
50
core
devs
who
have
joined
sessions
in
the
last
few
months
with
about
15
to
20
in
each
session
and
in
our
last
session
on
monday,
we
closed
up
some
blips.
Some
baseline
improvement
proposals
where
work
was
complete
in
the
last
few
weeks,
and
then
we
started
opening
up
some
new
lips
and
ideas.
So
lips
are
open
to
anybody.
B
F
Yeah,
so
we're
gonna
be
having
shannon
gupta
he's
the
head
of
data
analytics
at
data
analytics
and
data
science,
and
of
course
not
one
person
should
be
heading
this,
but
here
he
is
so
at
apollo
tires,
which
is
a
very
very
large
time.
Manufacturing
company
they've
also
made
a
lot
of
acquisitions
so
yeah.
Finally,
this
is
a
guest
I
was
chasing
since
about
a
couple
of
months.
Finally,
we
have
him-
and
it's
also
going
to
be
my
25th
episode
here
so
yay.
F
B
F
Yeah,
so
it's
going
to
be
interesting.
In
fact,
you
know
one
very
interesting
discussion
came
up
this
afternoon.
I
was
talking
to
the
nascom
folks
about
their
upcoming
events,
and
you
know
a
general
catch-up
chat
with
the
head
of
the
nascom
north
north
northern
india.
So
she
has
now
taken
up
an
additional
responsibility.
She's
now
become
the
head
of
inclusion
and
diversity.
G
F
Incorporate
something
like
that
and
in
inclusion
diversity
I
said.
Oh,
you
know
what
this
is
connecting
to
very
far
off
subjects
but
yeah.
Why
not?
Let's
think
about
it?
Let's,
let's
brainstorm!
I
didn't
know
that
this
was.
This
will
intrigue
me
so
much,
but
after
that,
after
that
small
conversation,
it's
sort
of
clung
in
my
head
that
can
we
can
we
in
some
way
have
you
know
this
is
more
relevant
for
daos.
You
know.
F
I
told
her
that
on
the
call
as
well
that
it's
not
it's,
it
may
not
be
relevant
for
boards.
You
know
regular
bots.
There
are
so
many
regulations
controlling
regular
companies,
but
dao's.
On
the
other
hand,
it's
just
people
behind
wallets,
you
don't
know
it
can
be
companies,
it
can
be
individuals
behind
wallets.
So
can
there
be
any
regulations
around
or
can
there
you
know?
Is
there
any
way
that
that
we
could
have
inclusion
and
diversity
frameworks
implemented
on
dowels?
F
C
Gender,
not
sex
like
difference
between
sex
and
gender
right.
A
lot
of
people
get
that
confused,
so
yeah
yeah
that
that's
that's
that's
hard!
You
need
to
identify
yourself
in
order
to
be
to
be
all
right,
so
I
think
that
that
that
the
goal
of
of
taos
is
to
to
because
of
the
pseudonymity
or
anonymity
is,
is
that
is
that
there's
not
going
to
be
discriminatory
behavior,
because
you
simply
don't
know
who
you're
interacting
with.
G
So
summaries,
let
me
give
you
the
flip
side
to
that
right:
okay,
anonymity
of
pseudonymity,
so
you
don't
really
know
if
you're
being
inclusive
or
not,
because
you
don't
know
who's
behind
a
public
key
right
and
two
in
a
democracy,
everyone
gets
one
vote,
every
individual
gets
in
a
dog.
First
of
all,
is
there
an
individual
behind
a
public
key?
G
Is
there
one
individual
with
many
public
keys
and
tokens?
You
buy
your
way
in
with
tokens.
So
more
difference.
You
have
the
more
votes
you
have,
so
there
is
inherent
limitations
to
democracy
and
inclusion
in
dallas.
So
I
mean
you
hear
a
lot
about
the
things
that
for
impulsivity-
and
these
are
the
things
that
I'm
giving
you
that
are
fundamentally
against
inclusivity
right.
The
caveats
you
know
from
the
same,
you
know
qualities
of
those.
It
goes
both.
Yes,.
F
F
F
Anyway,
but
just
that,
just
that
thought
came
up
and-
and
she
was
super
keen
on
discussing
that
for
me-
she's
been
watching
the
show
by
the
way
john
and
my
boat
shows
so
they
are.
They
are
still
following
our
they're
still
following
our
our
progress,
you
know
and
I'm
sure
we'll
get
slots
in
this
year's
nascom
events
as
well
and
by
the
way
they're
open
to
sponsorships
anytime.
G
Yeah
well,
and
also
like
one
thing:
let's
remember:
dolls
are
probably
the
first
iteration
of
organizations
you
know
on
on
the
blockchain
right,
but
there
could
be
many
more.
You
know
so
again,
it's
it's
an
open
field.
Right
I
mean
you
can
have.
You
might
have
to
dispense
with
some
aspects
of
surrounding
to
address
to
inclusion
right
which
some
people
might
find
very
uncomfortable,
especially
in
the
crypto
community.
C
Interesting
and
for
what
it's
worth
a
person
an
organization
can
be,
can
be
a
legal
person,
that's
that
which
is
which
isn't,
which
is
an
interesting
concept
there
is.
There
is
in
in
depending
on
the
jurisdiction,
of
course,
but,
for
example,
the
us,
the
u.s
supreme
court,
in
its
in
its
decision
about
about
election
funding,
has
ruled
that
organizations
are
a
legal
person.
C
C
No,
no,
no
sorry,
there's!
There's
there,
workers
in
the
in
the
house.
I
just
wanted
to
bring
up
one
point
around
grants.
So
it's
it's
like
there
are
some.
You
know
it's
like
everybody
again
going
around
with
a
tin
cup.
It's
important
because
there's
there
are,
there
is
work
that,
as
you
know,
we're
work
with
has
been
discussed
to
be
sponsored,
especially
around
wallets
and
the
integration
of
of
of
the
the
current
sort
of
like
open
source
wallets
around.
C
However,
there's
great
work
within
the
w3c
that
that
has
focused
on
on
on
creating
wallet
interfaces
for
things
like
the
ids
and
and
for
credentials
on
the
one
hand,
so
that
that's
that's,
that's
an
interesting
piece
of
piece
of
work
that
we
should
be
doing
because
we're
you
know
baseline
we're
for
focusing
on
organizations.
There
needs
to
be
some
some
identity
management
in
there
that
that
that
that
goes.
C
C
We
have
to
deal
with
another
family
of
of
of
curves,
namely
the
edds
acres,
which
are
very
different
from
ecdsa,
so
that
is
also
a
a
that
is
also
an
interesting
challenge.
So
we'll
look
out
for
for
for
some
rfps
around
that
once
once
we
have
established
a
certain
certain
bucket
of
grand
money-
and
I
know
it's
it's
very
near
and
dear
to
ori,
ori
ori,
steele's
heart
from
from
from
transmute
they've
done,
he's
done
excellent
work
in
the
w
three
three
three
c
here.
Maybe
he
could
talk
two
minutes
about
that.
H
One
of
the
most
important
factors
regarding
wallet
interoperability
is
is
the
ability
to
use
keys
in
multiple
different
contexts,
but
from
a
consistent
experience,
so
the
cryptocurrency
community
is
familiar
with
the
mnemonics
andreas
mentioned
some
of
the
standards,
the
bitcoin
improvement
protocol,
bib
44
bit
39
the
use
of
mnemonics
inside
of
the
ethereum
community,
and
at
transmute
we've
been
working
with
those
same
technologies
and
the
decentralized
identity
and
verifiable
credential
spaces,
and
all
of
that
that
work.
You
know
it's
all
open
source,
it's
apache
too.
A
A
A
They
don't
have
to
be
already
baselining
a
lot
of
topics
around
multi-party
workflows
that
we
could
be
talking
to
people
about,
there's
just
a
whole
world
of
people.
We
could
be
lining
up
to
get
on
the
show
and
yeah.
I
think
we
do
a
better
job
that
if
we
had
somebody
really
focused
on
it,
I
could
probably
find
some
some
money
for
it,
but
in
general,
it'd
be
great
to
have
somebody
just
kind
of
being
a
czar
for
that
and
just
spending
a
little
bit
of
time.
G
A
F
Research
as
well,
I
think,
that's
something
which
I
probably
spent
15
minutes
on
before
shows
on.
You
know
particular
industries
that
we're
picking
up,
and
you
know
any
key
news
or
data
that
could
be
used
for
conversations
while
we
are
chatting
with
the
guys,
I
think
it
will
just
add
more
depth,
you're
right,
john.
I
I
totally
agree
with
that.
A
I
think
it
would
do
way
better
than
20..
You
know,
there's
you
know.
Kona
and
and
earth
now
were
very
very
very
early
with
statements
of
work
about
what
they
were
doing.
I
think
we
have
to
find
a
systematic
way
as
a
community
to
find
and
report
on
baselining
activity.
You
know
it's
not
for
me
it's
not
about
whether
my
company
is
doing
the
project
or
not,
although
we
will
report
on
those
that
we
are
doing.
A
Certainly
baselining
is
the
is
the
general
approach
that
we're
using
to
build
tree
trunk
dot,
io
tree
trunk
dot
io
go
do
tree
trunk,
I'm
sorry
we're
shilling,
but
you
know
and-
and
I
think
that
other
company
spinouts
like
enbridge
have
a
lot
of
baselining
in
them,
but
I'm
just
as
interested.
If
you
know
accenture
gets
a
new
gig
that
was
based
on
baselining
requirements
or
some
other.
You
know
any
other
service
providers.
A
A
You
know
why
you
know
what
whether
it's
you
know,
adding
that
requirement
set
to
transformation
projects
that
they're
working
on
or
ideas
that
that
they
could
become
transformation
projects
under
themselves
at
the
enterprise
level,
supported
by
enterprises
I'll
be
adding
that
person
to
my
team
and
I've
we've
already
gotten
calls
from
major
service
providers
who
are
saying
we
you
know,
would
we
like
to
at
least
well?
No,
I
should
I
should
say
that
we
had
a
long
call
with
a
service
provider.
A
A
B
Gave
us
a
lot
to
think
about
there,
but
in
the
chat,
jack
leahy
said,
he'd
be
willing
to
lead
the
effort
on
planning,
future
baseline
shows
and
coordinating
with
the
group
and
samrat,
and
I
also
replied
and
said:
we'd
work
with
him
on
that
to
start
planning
ahead
of
time
and
having
helped
me
always
thank
you
mark
to
just
start
lining
speakers
up
but
go
ahead.
Samurai.
F
B
D
F
A
A
I
don't
think
he's
for
sale,
but
but
I
don't
think
he's
interested
in
the
job,
but
you
know
getting
getting
people
like
that
right.
You
know,
you
know
somebody
who
can
can
make
the
call
to
a
c-level
executive
at
gm
or
ge,
or
any
of
these
kinds
of
companies
would
be
good
just
to
basically
yeah
it's
what
I
used
to
do
and
others
used
to
you
know
people
like
nitin,
gower
and
others
used
to
do
in
the
early
days
of
enterprise.
A
D
We
know
that
here
we
are
six
years
later
and
you
know
we're
still
distilling
even
more
so,
but
you've
got
a
lot
of
the
capabilities
that
are,
you
know,
ready
for
prime
time
that
are
ready
to
go
to
market,
and
I
think
a
lot
of
us
have
been
dealing
in
the
theoretical
for
a
long
time
that
you
have
to
kind
of
pivot
a
little
bit
to
say.
Okay,
how
do
we
actually
make
this
happen
on
the
ground?
D
G
G
You
know
under
conditions
of
zero
knowledge
proof,
if,
if
that
is
you
know,
indeed
what
you
want
right,
but,
but
I
think
that's
that's
one
of
the
big
issues
is
in
trying
to
get
people
to
understand
is
getting
off.
The
cryptocurrency
fan
dragon
right,
trying
to
talk
about
what
blockchain
can
do
as
a
technology.
F
Yeah,
I
agree
and
with
the
new
page
I
think
that's
that's
something
very,
very
important,
and
then
you
know
our
transition
from
and
not
to
use
the
b
word
anymore
or
use
it
to
the
minimum
possible
extent.
I
think
that's,
that's
that's
that's
what
for
john,
I
think
john.
You
were
talking
about
last
time
right.
A
Yeah
I
I
was
looking
at
the
ssb,
simple
yeah.
I
mean
it's
just
a
clear
story.
Today
I
mean.
Sometimes
you
know
it
takes
a
while
and
standards
aren't
standards.
Bodies
is
andreas.
Will
the
test
and
our
pgb
members
like,
like
dan
burnett
and
and
charles
neville.
You
know
their
old
hands
at
this
and
you
know
I
was
discussing
this
with
them.
The
other
day
you
know,
standards
aren't
the
standards.
Bodies
are
about
longevity,
not
intensity,
right.
A
You,
you
you
some
days,
you,
you
know
you're
moving
fast,
some
days,
you
know
it's
it.
You
know
some
years,
it's
slower
some
years,
it's
faster
and
you
have
to
look
the
law.
You
have
to
play
the
long
game
to
determine
whether
or
not
you've
really
made
an
impact
on
history,
but
I
think
that
there
are
moments
when
things
crystallize
and
I
feel
like
that's
where
we've
got.
I
feel
very
buoyed
up
by
the
story,
how
we
tell
it
some
of
the
materials
that
are
coming
out.
Those
slides
slide
decks
can
matter.
A
So
I
mean
having
that
slight.
You
know
having
a
slideshow
that
really
tells
the
story.
Simply
I
mean
to
be
honest
that
you
know
the
tree
trunk
work
that
we've
been
doing
just
killed
it
with
the
slide
deck
and
I'm
getting
people
calling
saying
hey.
I
saw
your
slide
deck
on
the
internet.
This
makes
a
lot
of
sense
to
me
and
we're
getting
a
lot
of
traction
from
that.
A
As
long
as
we
position
well
in
there,
and
also,
I
think,
there's
a
lot
more
money
coming
into
the
into
the
community
here
that
we
can
use
to
expand
operations
and
make
sure
that
we're
you
know
that
baselining
is
the
word
people
use.
I
still
like
the
idea.
Yeah
send
me
that
invoice
but
make
sure
to
baseline
it
right
yeah.
That's
that's!
D
We
did
have
someone
in
the
chat
on
the
youtube
that
was
a
andrew
m
thoughts
on
baselining,
the
medical
industry,
for
example.
You
know
he's
using
the
the
national
health
services
in
the
uk,
which
certainly
is
right
for
for
baseline,
especially
when
it
involves
the
you
know
being
able
to
align
different
parties.
D
You
know
process
environment
for
just
settling
and
closing
a
health
care
plan.
There
is
so
much
you
know,
data
and
paperwork,
really
that
has
to
go
back
and
forth
and
really
there's
no
other
way
to
actually
do
it
except
make
a
correction.
Send
it
back,
you
know
receive
it
again,
make
any
other
corrections.
You
know
back
and
forth
until
you're.
Finally,
synced
up
and
baseline
takes
that
down
and
virtually
eliminates
it.
So
I
would
say:
definitely:
healthcare
is
a
huge.
D
You
know
invasive
potential
for
baselining
on
that,
mainly
because
it's
it's
a
different
approach.
You're
not
putting
in
an
entirely
new
software
package,
you're
not
putting
in
an
entirely
you
know:
healthcare,
erp
system,
you're,
taking
your
existing
plumbing
and
you
know
you're
running
what
you
brought,
and
this
is
just
a
way
of
synchronizing
everybody
that
is,
you
know,
in
a
multi-party
environment.
D
So,
yes
to
your
point,
andrew
of
course,
there's
been
a
lot
of
thoughts
being
put
in,
especially
when
it
comes
to
healthcare.
It's
just
trying
to
figure
out
okay.
Where
can
you
get
that
toehold?
That's
gonna
create
the
most
ripple
effects
to
where
people
can
say
yeah.
You
know
what
this
has
legs
and
we
can
actually
use
this.
So
finding
that
particular
nut
to
crack
you
know
requires
a
lot
of
persistence.
A
Yeah
I'd
say
that
consensus
health
is,
you
know,
bill
cline
isn't
on
anymore.
I
don't
think
I
don't
see
him
but
yeah
they're,
a
contributor
from
the
very
beginning,
they've
got
a
lot
of
zk
people
built
built
notable
among
them.
You
know
my
point
earlier
about
how
I
think
you
know
we
might
consider
a
little
more
liberal
view
on
the
note.
A
Should
or
contextualizing
that
or
creating
cases
where,
where
baselining
could
be
applied,
but
not
necessarily
requiring
ccsm
or
zk?
Strictly
speaking,
that
point
aside,
which
I
will
hold
you
know,
I
think
zk
is
very
much
a
solid
foundation
for
what
we're
doing
just
simply,
maybe
not
the
only
thing
that
would
would
be
inside
the
the
the
nomenclature.
A
A
I
don't
know
unbundling
is
a
big
word,
but
I
I
again
you
know,
and
we
are
in
discussion.
So
why
not?
You
know
it's
transparency.
Yeah.
I
think
that
there's
been
I've
been
I've
been
monitoring
a
lot
of
sort
of
bubbling
conversation
about
2zk
or
not
to
zk,
and
it
it
seems
to
me
that
it's
a
legitimate
conversation
to
have
about
what
constitutes
baselining
and
is
that
it
is
a
is
it
a
set
of
things.
A
set
of
techniques,
certainly
zk
has
is,
is
notable
in
our
current
iteration.
A
There's
nothing
wrong
with
that
at
all
and,
like
I
said,
consensus,
health
is
really
big
into
zero
knowledge.
I
should
think
zero
knowledge,
especially
and
andreas
will
point
this
out
when
you're
doing
bilateral
things,
you
can
do
it
with
signatures
and
hashes
very
often
and
putting
the
those
on
on
a
ccsm
like
base
ledger
is
a
convenience.
Perhaps
it's
not
strictly
necessary.
A
C
One
key
thing
is
that
is
his
is
availability
right.
So
the
the
the
big
question
is
when
you're,
when
you're,
relying
when
you're
when
you're,
relying
on
a
on
a
a
a
approver
to
be
online
for
the
verifier
for
that
to
work.
That
is
a
big
ask
and
might
not
always
be
true
right.
So
it's
like
it's
like
that's
why
it's
it
that's
why?
What
one
of
the
things
is
is
that
is
that
the
the
the
non-interactive
nature
of
those
of
those
proofs
becomes
becomes
becomes
key
and
that's.
Why
also?
A
A
I
think
there's
a
now
there's
a
thing
there,
I'm
going
to
use
that
as
a
trigger
for
something
I
have
to
do,
and
so
you
know
if
you
have
like
three
banks,
and
the
third
bank
needs
to
know
that
these
other
two
banks
did
a
thing
without
getting
the
actual
data
of
that
thing.
For
free.
That's
that's
good
for
security
yeah.
They
can
watch
for
a
proof
when
that,
when
proof
gets
dropped
they
can
run
it
validate
it
and
then
do
what
they
whatever
they're
supposed
to
do.
A
B
All
right,
thank
you
all
who
joined
this
call
from
different
companies
different
parts
of
the
community,
we're
very
happy
to
have
you
here
and
hope
you
join
the
baseline
show
as
often
as
you
can,
and
thank
you
to
our
normal
studio
audience
as
well
as
our
viewers
on
youtube
and
that's
a
wrap
on
our
january
general
assembly
for
baseline
and
we'll
see
who
we
can
start
queuing
up
for
future
shows.
Thank
you
all.
So
much
have
a
great
week.