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From YouTube: The Baseline Protocol - October 2021 General Assembly
Description
Once a month, we use the time normally held for The Baseline show, our weekly office hours, to conduct our public community update. Find out more at https://baseline-protocol.org.
In this update, we will cover the following topics:
Agenda:
1) TSC Candidate Intros [02:30]
2) TSC Election Voting Details [10:26]
3) Standards Team Update [14:00]
4) Outreach Team Update [26:30]
5) Sponsorship Update [29:09]
6) Grants [35:26]
7) Core Devs [44:02]
8) Open Floor [47:10]
A
A
C
B
Having
our
our
october
general
assembly
meeting,
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
sonal
patel
who's,
the
well,
not
any,
not
new
anymore,
the
the
baseline
operations
coordinator
and
all
around
glue
in
the
in
the
system,
and
today
we
will
just
be
going
over
general
assembly
content
if
there's
quite
a
few
people
online,
but
the
the
streaming
does
not
show
anybody
who
doesn't
have
camera
on.
So
if
you
hear
disembodied
voices,
that's
because
they're
practicing
their
right
of
keeping
their
video
off.
D
All
right,
thank
you.
Welcome
to
another
general
assembly
meeting
that
we
have
broadcasted
to
youtube
for
visibility
to
everybody,
about
updates
from
different
teams.
So
we
have
a
few
of
our
team
leads
and
community
members
here
today
to
provide
some
updates,
so
I
will
start
cueing
them
up
and
for
anybody
speaking,
please
introduce
yourself
an
optional,
your
company
in
case
we
have
some
new
listeners
out
there
today.
D
So
first
we
first
I
have
some
tfc
candidates
who
are
on
the
call
today
who
were
unable
to
introduce
themselves
last
week
who
are
going
to
provide
some
brief
introductions
on
themselves
and
then
I'll
hand
it
over
to
claudia
to
give
us
the
official
details
for
the
elections
that
are
starting
as
of
right
now.
I
believe
so
she'll
give
us
the
the
guidelines
for
those
who
are
eligible
voters,
but,
first
and
foremost
we
will
have
our
introductions.
E
Absolutely
my
name
is
melanie
marsolier.
You
can
probably
hear
a
french
accent
and
a
french
last
name.
I
work
at
splunk,
which
is
a
data
to
everything
company,
so
everything
data
specializing
in
a
metric
logs
traces
to
understand
everything,
including
ledger,
analytics
and
what's
happening
on
the
blockchain.
E
So
to
answer
your
first
question:
what
I've
done
for
baseline
well
with
splunk
we've
contributed
to
br
i1,
which
is
an
implementation
of
of
the
baseline
protocol
and
in
the
ops
folder
you
can
see
you
can
spin
up
splunk
and
have
a
bit
of
insight
into
your
ledger,
analytics
to
be
fair.
It
hasn't
been
updated
in
a
little
while
and
I
think
dri
one
probably
needs
a
bit
of
love
too.
Just
generally
speaking,
not
only
this
one
functionality.
E
F
Sure
thing
thanks
so
now:
hi
everyone,
I'm
connor
svensson,
I'm
the
founder
and
ceo
of
web3
labs
web3labs
is
a
blockchain
technology
company.
We
work
with
protocols,
as
well
as
large
corporates
on
strategic
blockchain
initiatives,
so
we
do
things
like
ecosystem
development
and
open
source,
as
well
as
working
on
other
areas
like
cross
chain
and
interop.
F
I've
been
very
involved
in
the
ethereum
community.
Going
back
a
number
of
years.
I
wrote
a
library
called
web3j,
which
is
the
jvm
integration
library
for
ethereum,
my
roots
for
writing
that,
in
the
first
instance,
were
very
much
so
always
about
having
come
from
that
world
of
enterprise
development.
The
the
jvm
in
my
mind,
was
always
quite
pivotal
for
why
you
know,
as
there
was
a
way
of
ensuring
that
ethereum
was
well
catered
for,
because
you
know
it
runs
so
much
of
modern
enterprise.
F
You've
got
some
20
years
worth
of
systems
and
applications
that
have
been
built
on
that
platform.
So
still
believe.
It's
a
very
important
system
platform
to
support,
specifically,
though,
with
the
baseline
protocol.
What
has
always
attracted
me
so
much
to
it.
Is
that
it's
well
it
it's
it's
enterprise
focus!
F
It's
how
you
kind
of
overcome
that
obstacle
of
enterprises
going
to
you
know
creating
their
own
private
permission
chains
when,
in
fact
it
provides
an
opportunity
for
them
to
go
to
public
ledger
networks,
and
so
what
my
involvement
within
the
baseline
protocol
tfc,
thus
far
has
been,
has
really
been.
You
know
contributing
to
the
different
discussions.
You
know
where
I
can
around
perspectives
on
open
source,
as
well
as
when
people
have
been
submitting,
grant
applications,
scrutinizing
them
and
so
on
long
term.
F
I'll
definitely
send
out
some
free
books
anyway,
because
yeah
so
that
that
book's
gonna
drop
in
a
month
or
two,
this
blockchain
innovator's
handbook
so
yeah
yeah
again,
I
think
the
baseline,
the
baseline's
kind
of
got
a
good
play
into
that
side
of
things
too.
So
I
want
to
you
know,
just
try
to
talk
about
it.
There.
G
G
I
think
we
all
agree
that
increasing
transparency
is
one
of
the
most
important
features
of
any
blockchain-based
solution
and
on
the
other
hand,
I've
also
learned
that
importance
of
privacy
for
both
private
persons
and
entities
legal
entities
is
a
really
important
aspect
that
we
should
keep
in
mind.
So
personally,
I'm
interested
in
bridging
this
gap.
G
In
where
it
fixes
this
kind
of
missing
piece
in
the
puzzle,
so
yeah
for
me
baseline,
is
the
first
attempt
in
this
scale
that
tries
to
create
a
balance
between
transparency
and
privacy
and
that
that's
what
excites
me
and
you
know,
by
nominating
myself,
I
want
to
show
my
commitment
to
this
idea.
I
also
see
my
role,
understanding
and
mapping
between
technical
specifications
and,
of
course,
business
processes,
which
I
believe
it's
very
important
for
adoption
of
technology.
G
H
I
Okay,
all
right,
I'm
just
in
the
process
of
putting
the
final
touches
to
the
two
emails
that
will
go
out
to
all
of
the
eligible
voters
eligible
voters
are
those
who
made
a
contribution
to
the
master
branches
for
baseline
in
the
last
six
months.
I
think
we
have
39
eligible
voters
right
now.
They
will
all
get
one
email
with
a
call
to
vote
which
will
list
statements
for
most
of
the
candidates
that
they
have
sent
in
prior
to
the
election
and
an
explanation
of
how
to
vote.
I
The
second
email
will
go
to
all
of
the
eligible
voters
as
well
with
a
ballot
and
in
in
the
email.
You
will
yeah
understand
how
to
vote,
which
is
basically
putting
in
x.
You
have
next
to
the
candidate
names.
You
have
12
11.
Sorry,
we
have.
You
have
11
possible
votes
because
there's
a
maximum
number
of
11
people
on
the
technical
steering
committee.
We
have
19
candidates,
so
we
should
be
able
to
fill
those
votes.
I
The
election
will
be
remain
open
until
tuesday,
the
26th
of
october,
so
that
is
in
13
days,
and
so
it's
two
weeks.
We
will
then
tally
the
results
and
report
them
on
the
next
baseline
show.
When
we'll
have
the
new
tsc
and
yeah,
I
think
that's
it
basically
the
so.
The
emails
will
go
out
in
the
next
couple
of
minutes.
H
Just
just
just
one
other
quick
note,
please
vote
by
forwarding
the
ballot
email
to
claudia
and
and
copy
me.
We
we
we're
we're
trying
to
you
know,
keep
the
votes
themselves
confidential
and
not
broadcast
them
back
out.
So
please
make
sure
you
forward
the
ballot
to
claudia
and
select
up
to
11
11
choices
off
of
the
list.
That's
the
maximum
number
of
tsc
seats
that
will
be
open.
So
please
vote
for
up
to
11.
B
D
All
right,
there
aren't
any
other
questions
if
you're
an
eligible
voter,
just
keep
an
eye
out
for
that
email
and
if
you
have
any
questions,
feel
free
to
reach
out
to
myself
or
claudia
or
chet,
I'm
on
the
baseline
slack,
and
now
we
will
move
forward
to
standards
andreas.
If
you
would
like
to
provide
an
update
on
the
standards
work.
B
Chet
it
I'm
gonna
assume
this
is,
would
follow
you,
but
perhaps
claudia
and
solenol
as
well.
Perhaps
we
need
to
work
with
andreas
like
today
or
tomorrow
to
make
sure
that
the
pgb
has
is
sure
to
have
all
the
material
they
need
and-
and
we
nag
them
a
little
bit
that
hey
if
you're,
if
you
show
up
on
wednesday
without
having
read
the
thing,
that's
on
you.
J
Yeah,
so
that
that
actually
brings
up
a
question
is,
is
is,
and
that
is
more
of
like
a
general
question,
but
one
that
I
have
been
pondering
across
multiple
standards
orcs,
but
chet.
Your
your
wisdom
is
always
greatly
appreciated
because
you
have
you
have
done
a
few
more
rodeos
here.
You
know
the
the
point
of
people
not
not
coming
quote-unquote
prepared
is
that
is
it
still
okay
to
say
to
basically
say
what
john
just
said:
it's
like
tough
luck,
which,
for
example,
in
w3c.
That's
there
there's!
No
such
thing
right.
J
H
Well,
the
the
the
obvi.
Obviously
the
pgb
has
to
be
given
sufficient
time
right,
I
mean
can't
drop
it
in
their
laps
the
day
before
and
say,
hey
read
this
overnight
because
you're
going
to
vote
on
it
tomorrow.
So
a
week
is,
I
would
say,
like
the
minimum
acceptable
window
to
provide
to
provide
to
them.
That
said,.
H
I
it
really
depends
on
the
complexity
of
the
piece
right
I
mean
if
you're,
if
you're,
if
you're
proposing
you
know
a
a
a
25
page
profile
spec,
you
know
seven
days
more
than
enough
time.
You
know
if
you're
suggesting
that
they
review
the
next
iteration
of
you
know
universal
business
language
uvl,
which
is
well
over
a
thousand
pages
at
this
point,
that'd
be
a
little
unreasonable.
So
I
think
you
know
it's
it's
really.
H
B
J
B
Pgb,
I
I
certainly
don't
mind
you
know
letting
people
know
that
we're
going
to
review
it
again
to
next
wednesday,
but
perhaps
it
would
be
the
following
wednesday
that
we-
and
we
would
just
say,
hey
you've-
got
to
get
really
serious
about
it.
Now
that
doesn't
really
answer
andreas
question,
so
I
might
have
cut
you
off
on
that
chat
is
right.
No
I'm!
I'm.
H
H
It's
then
in
the
pgb's
hands
and
their
decision
on
on
timing
and
how
to
move
forward.
You
know
now,
it's
not
like
one
person
can
throw
a
yellow
flag
and
stop
the
play.
You
know
if
you
know.
Basically,
you
know
the
chair
of
the
pgb
can
say:
hey
we've
got
this.
How
should
we
proceed?
Should
we
have
a
formal
presentation
on
it
and
a
discussion
first?
Do
you
all
feel
confident
that
you
know
it
well
enough?
H
E
B
H
J
It
adds
her
with
regard
to
to
you
know
what
the
what
the,
what
the
majority
rule
is.
That's
that's,
that's
fine.
It
was.
It
was
also
more
of
an
etiquette
thing
in
terms
of
in
terms
of
because
I
mean
I
personally
have
no
no
issues
like
steam
steamrollings
like
get
with
the
program
right,
it's
like,
but
you
know,
knowing
that
people
are
busy,
and
this
stuff
is
not
exactly.
You
know
your
your
your
coffee
coffee
table
book
right.
J
Would
you
recommend,
maybe
just
you
know,
opening
the
ballot
and
then
just
leaving,
leaving
it
open
for
a
certain
period
of
time
that
allows
individuals
to
ask
them
questions
or
reach
out,
because
one
of
the
things
that
I
found
is
that
presentations
do
not
answer
the
the
pertinent
questions
right.
It's
like
they.
They
answer.
What
does
it?
What
what
is
this
about
right
level,
question
right
right
at
this
point
in
time
you
know
if
you're
on
the
pgb
board
and
you're
like
what
is
this
about.
J
If
you're
at
that
level,
then
you're,
probably
not
shouldn't
be
on
the
on
the
on
the
board.
Therefore,
it's
more
of
a
question
of
of
like,
if
you're
on
the
board,
you
should
be
reading
it
and
then
come
with
specific
questions
right
and
and
if
you
feel
that
that
they
deserve
a
larger.
You
know
it's
like
audience
to
discuss.
J
Do
so,
but
otherwise
it's
like
it's
like
work
with
the
with
the
with
the
either
the
tsc
or
the
standards
working
group
directly
to
result
to
to
resolve
those
questions
because
they
could
be,
you
know
big
or
they
could
be.
You
know
fairly
technical
and
and
and
were
pretty
much
no
one
else,
but
you
cares
about
it.
So.
H
Well
again,
it's
the
pgb's
choice,
how
they
want
to
run
it,
but
I
would
say:
hey
make
that
suggestion
to
them.
You
know
I
mean
maybe
maybe
suggest
that
that
the
you
know
that
an
issue
can
be
opened
in
the
baseline
standards,
repo
specifically
for
q,
a
you
know
for
members
of
the
pgb
so
that
people
can
can
come
there
as
they
go
through
it
and
and
and
provide
you
know,
provide
a
window.
H
B
B
We
can.
We
can
put
them
on
notice
as
early
as
today
or
tomorrow,
chat,
but
but
we'll
give
them
until
the
following
pgp
meeting,
at
which
point
the
the
the
sitting
chair
of
that
time
me
or
somebody
else,
and
as
I've
said
before,
I'm
very
much
encouraging
other
chairs.
I
I
will
continue
to
do
everything
I
do
for
the
community,
regardless
of
chairmanship
but
yeah
the
we
can.
B
B
J
H
Right
and
that's
a
more
that
that's
a
higher
bar
to
pass
so
yeah,
so
this
one
is
is
pretty
low
key
and
in
fact,
if
it's
a
quarter
project
governing
board
meeting,
somebody
can
make
a
motion.
You
know
right
then,
and
there
you
know,
call
for
objections
to
approving
this
as
a
project
specification
draft.
H
D
All
right,
thank
you
for
that
update
and
now
our
outreach
team
that
is
led
by
melanie
we'll
get
some
updates
from
her
and
also
I
will
say
that
our
sign
ups
are
up
and
running
to
join
teams
like
the
standard
and
outreach
team
and
our
last
outreach
meeting
on
monday.
We
had
a
whole
bunch
of
new
people
join
us.
So
please
join
those
groups
and
we'll
make
sure
to
have
you
added
and
over
to
you
melanie.
E
E
I
think
the
hackathon
was
definitely
a
great
success
in
socializing
baseline
with
with
students
and
university
university
students
and
just
all
kind
of
students,
and
we
saw
that
in
the
outreach
committee
seeing
fresh
faces
fresh
ideas.
So
that's
exciting
in
terms
of
other
updates
from
if
atlanta
I
didn't
attend
myself,
but
the
the
overall
message
is
great
for
hack.
E
B
E
E
Sounds
great
and
then
there
is
opportunity
to
issue
quality
press
release
with
the
support
of
the
eea
that
we
haven't
really
leveraged
yet
there's
a
continuous
call
during
our
our
go-to-market
meeting
to
to
leverage
this
opportunity
so
extending
this
to
the
general
assembly.
If
you
want
to
join
the
go
to
market
committee
and
have
have
opportunities
there
to
to
to
do
some
brand
marketing
and
press
releases,
there's
there's
there's
resources
for
us
to
leverage.
A
Okay,
well,
I
don't
have
any
new
sponsors,
but
we
are
talking
to
all
of
the
candidates
for
tsc
if
you're
not
already
employed
by
a
sponsor
like
melanie,
is
with
splunk
and
with
john
with
consensus,
but
I
have
been
reaching
out
to
the
other
companies
to
try
to
see
if
we
can
get
your
company
to
also
support
baseline
as
a
sponsor.
The
dues
are
really
modest
and
they
were
set
that
way,
so
that,
in
expectation
that
everybody,
every
company
who's
really
involved,
you
know
pays
a
fair
share
of
the
money.
A
Years,
yeah
yeah.
Sorry
we're
also
looking
at
some
other
sponsorship
benefits.
Adding
sponsorship
benefits
that
could
actually
drive.
Sales
leads
to
the
sponsors
and
we're
interested
in
in
offering
those
to
companies
more
companies
as
well,
and
we
have
the
all
things
open,
we're
meeting
with
some
people
at
all
things
open.
Some
companies
we've
been
talking
to
a
while.
We
finally
will
have
a
chance
to
have
a
face-to-face
meeting,
so
I'm
going
to
try
to
maximize
john's
time
there.
B
Yeah
I'd
like
to
say
something
about
that,
if
you
don't
mind
carol.
First
of
all,
I
think
that
what
is
what's
really
crystallized
is
that
baseline
is
front
and
center
on
the
the
wave
of
business.
I
think
it's
the
next,
it's
it's
the.
If
basel,
if
blockchain
was
a
hype,
wave
nfts
with
a
hype
wave
or
is
a
hype
wave,
I
think
the
next
wave
of
utility
and
and
maybe
hype
is
is-
is
there
is
collaboration
or
coordination
under
zero
knowledge?
You
know
we
need
to
work
together.
We
can't
share
information.
B
We
can't
we
can't
just
go
fully
fully
naked,
and
so
we
are,
we
need
zero
knowledge.
Zero
knowledge
is
the
is
really
the
thing
and
given
that,
if
you,
the
the
deal
flow
opportunity
is
enormous
on
that
way
more
than
it
ever
was
on
blockchain
blockchain
presented
real
issues
for
commercialization
for
for
industrial
production
use.
B
J
J
J
Right
exactly
or
I
use
use
an
alternative
all
right,
it's
like!
Don't,
don't
don't
don't
don't
give
me
the
details,
I
don't
care
right,
so
the
ease
of
use
is
absolutely
critical
and
there's
a
huge
opportunity
there,
because,
because
you
know
it's
like
it's
like
you
literally
have
a
multi-billion
dollar
company
is
saying:
oh,
you
know
what
transport
layer
security
is
enough
for
my
api.
70
of
all
breaches
happen
because
of
misconfigured
web
servers.
J
B
J
B
B
Gilchrist,
oh
jack,
gilchrist,
I'm
so
sorry
I
say
publicly.
I
apologize
for
that
jack,
gilchrist
and
team
who
were
at
the
hackathon
building
the
battleship
game,
whether
it's
jack's
team
or
somebody
else
that
picks
up
the
work
from
there.
I
think
it's
quite
appropriate
that
we
allocate
some
grand
money
to
our
hello
world.
I
mean
it's
no
question
that
that
ought
to
be
the
hello
world.
B
B
Okay,
so
I
guess
by
the
next
time,
we'll
or
probably
well
before,
like
in
the
next,
probably
by
the
next
pgp
meeting,
we'll
we'll
lock
that
number
down
further
but
yeah.
We
have
at
least
yeah
six
nine
thousand
dollars
six
to
nine
thousand
dollars
to
to
allocate
for
that.
So
I'd
like
to
put
out
a
general
call
for
bids
on
that
and
so
and
and
aggressively
lock
in
a
person.
B
B
J
No,
but
it's
like
even
more
generally
speaking,
it's
like
it's
like
it's
like
identity
means
very
different
things
from
for
different
for
different
people.
They
just
have
a
very
different
definition
because
everybody
defines
it
for
themselves.
It's
just
like
it's.
It's
like
liberty,
right,
it's
like
it's
like
you
ask
two
different.
Two
different
people
they'll,
give
you
two
different
answers.
They
have
nothing
to
do
with
the
actual
actual
oxford
dictionary
definition.
That's
actually
a
problem
right,
so
it's
like.
J
So
that's
why
having
these
two
projects
is
really
important
because
we're
now
normalizing
what
it
what
identity
means
within
the
baseline
context
and
we're
normalizing
it
to
a
well-defined
standard.
That
is
that's.
Those
are
those
are
the
key
things
so
normalizing
within
the
baseline
protocol,
normalizing
to
a
to
a
to
a
well-known
standard.
Those
are
the
two
key
things
and.
A
J
You
know
standards
compliant
method,
to
identify
entities
and
to
assign
credentials
to
them
so
that
that's
the
that
which
is
again
based
on
the
standard
which
is
which
is
critically
important
for
for
for
enterprise
adoption
without
a
stand
without
a
standard
in
a
standard.
It's
not
it's,
not
it's
not
gonna
happen.
J
Yeah
everybody
can
track
the
progress
of
those
of
those
of
those
grands
publicly
in
the
in
the
issues
photo
there
they're
they're
issues,
number
45
number
46
and
the
grants
github
repo
are
or
the
or
the
monthly
tracking
issues
for
that
everybody
can
see
what
the
projects
are
reporting
back
and
what
their
issues
are.
If
they,
if
any.
B
Yeah,
I
think,
that's
all.
I
think
the
bishwashri
day
completed
her
excel
project,
and
I
see
that
that
is
still
not
merged
to
maine.
So
we
will.
We
need
to
see
that
and
then
I
I'd
like
to
say-
and
I
think
I've
got
agreement
with
the
provide
team
and
other
folks
who
have
been
supporting
that
excel
project.
B
That
is
a
huge
huge
deal
to
have
the
excel
integration,
because,
if
you
think
about,
if
you
want
to
start
to
like
work
out
in
the
gym
on
baselining,
what
do
you
want
you're
going
to
want
to
like
baseline
a
couple
of
excel
spreadsheets
right,
maybe
baseline,
an
excel
spreadsheet
with
with
sap,
but
you
know
just
to
get
it
get
it
going
quickly.
What
are
you
gonna?
Do
you're
gonna
throw
up
a
couple
of
excel
spreadsheets.
B
That's
one
fast
way
to
do
or
an
excel
spreadsheet,
and
then
we
really
need
to
revive
the
the
google
sheets
connector
as
well,
which
is
already
done,
but
I
think,
is
deprecated
on
the
old
bri.
So
that's
another
project.
We
could
probably
fund
a
grant
on
yeah
right
so
that
excel
we
want
to
make
a
big
deal
out
of
that
so
melanie
and
team.
On
the
outreach
side,
I
think
that
one
deserves
press
release
or
at
least
a
blog
release.
A
D
Okay
and
my
last
official
update
is
about
the
core
devs
kickoff
that
happened
on
monday.
We
had
great
success,
I
do
say
so
myself.
We
had
about
23
new
attendees
in
the
call
well
23
total,
who
will
serve
as
our
core
devs
team,
given
that
they
want
to
stay
committed,
and
we
had
people
who
came
from
all
different
backgrounds.
Companies
industries
who
are
interested
in
helping
drive
baseline
going
forward.
So
looking
forward
to
working
with
all
of
the
great
core
devs,
where
joining
the
community.
D
Yeah
super
exciting,
so
we'll
be
staying
in
close
touch
with
the
core
dabs
we'll
be
hosting
some
learning
sessions
and
the
next
chord
abs
meetings
going
forward
to
make
sure
everybody's
comfortable
with
the
code
base
the
architecture
and
pretty
much
anybody
can
join.
So
please
feel
free
to
still
sign
up
and
we'll
make
sure
you're,
you're,
welcomed
and
acclimated
to
the
group
and
with
that
I'll
say
one
more
time
that
our
sign
ups
are
open
and
I'm
tracking
them
and
making
sure
everybody's
added
to
meetings
going
forward.
D
J
J
B
J
That's
sort
of
what
we've
been
following
is
would
be
my
recommendation
to
do
that
because,
for
example,
a
9
a.m,
pacific
at
noon,
eastern
is,
is
just
not
in
my
cards.
It's
like.
I
can't,
even
if
I
wanted
to,
I
can't
participate
so
at
6
a.m.
I
can
because
typically
I'm
you
know
no
one
dares
to
schedule
a
call
at
6
a.m.
Pacific.
J
A
C
B
There's
a
there's,
a
government
thing
that
is
calling
for
baselining.
If
I,
I
don't
feel
that
liberty
to
call
it
out
on
the
on
a
public
channel,
although
the
you
know
it
is
a
public
rfi,
but
just
out
of
respect
to
the
organization,
that's
doing
it.
If
there
are
solutions
providers
out
there
in
the
qual
in
the
community
that
are
on
this
call
that
want
to
be
sure
that
they
have
a
chance
to
bid
on
that.
I
think
I
think
the
window
is
closing.
C
C
Great
question
so,
while
I
had
some
some
chat
with
with
officials,
but
that
was
more
of
personal
interest,
they
expressed
in
understanding
what's
going
on,
and
that
was
fairly
early
in
in
in
my
journey
in
the
indian
chapter
as
well.
So
but
yeah,
I
don't
see
any
project
as
such
coming
out.
Yet
do
you
think
that's
part
of
the
I?
I
suppose
part
of
the
reason
is
just
the
lack
of
understanding
and
knowledge
of
the
potential
of
blockchain
in
general
and
of
you
know,
baselining
more
specifically
right.
C
B
C
B
So
I
just
don't
use
the
word
blockchain
much
anymore,
because
I
don't
want
to
get
them
into
that
mental
model.
Of
course
there's
blockchain
involved,
but
the
minute
we
say
it.
Certainly
if
you
do
it
early
in
the
conversation
or
if
you
market
it
as
a
blockchain
solution,
then
they're
immediate
and
you
and
then
you've
talked
to
them
about
public
blockchain
they're
into
the
oh.
I
don't.
B
I
don't
want
to
put
my
data
on
a
public
blockchain,
I'm
like,
of
course
you
don't
that's
the
point,
but
at
that
point
they're
locked
in
and
you
know
how
hard
it
is
to
keep
to
change
people's
mental
models.
So
just
don't
don't
sign
up
for
that
problem
say:
hey
look!
This
is
about
collaboration
under
zero
knowledge.
B
B
And
then
yes,
and
then
when
they,
when
they're
really
into
that,
you
say,
oh
by
the
way,
public
good
infrastructure
that
keeps
the
costs
down.
It's
the
internet.
You
know
it's
the
internet,
stupid
as
it
were
and-
and
I
think
that's
the
way
to
sell
it-
it's
not
about
you
know
at
that
point.
Technically
speaking,
you
could
put
a
private
blockchain
or
you
could
even
put
an
arduino
in
your
closet
up
as
the
sea
as
the
kind
of
frame
of
reference
state
machine.
It's
just
that.
B
I
would
laugh
at
you
for
that.
But
that
way
you
don't
have
to
worry
about
that
thing.
I
mean
you
know
people
I've
had
I've
done
two
hour
sessions
with
companies
and
they
come
back
a
week
later
and
say:
oh,
we
loved
it.
We
loved
it
but
here's
the
problem.
We
really
don't
want
to
put
our
data
on
a
public
blockchain.
Were
you
in
the
room
right
so
yeah,
that's
my
point.
C
Yeah
I
can
I
can
attest
to
that.
You
know:
that's
the
first
thing
that
when
you
say
putting
data
on
a
blockchain,
you
know
they
just
think
it's
there
for
everyone
to
see
right,
yeah,
but
I
think
to
answer
your
specific
question
on
the
understanding.
I
think
blockchain
understanding
is
phenomenal.
Indian
government
they've
done
some
massive
they've
taken
some
massive
steps
on
adoption
of
blockchain
in
various
things.
C
In
fact,
the
largest
board
in
india
is
issuing
degrees
already
using
blockchain
they've
gone
public
with
that
announcement
and
there
are
a
lot
smaller,
which
is
in
the
works
bay.
Signing,
of
course,
will
need
a
lot
of
understanding.
Evangelism
I've
been
doing
these
saturday
shows,
and
the
format
has
been
that
I
might
somebody
talk
about
a
particular
industry
and
or
use
cases
and
sort
of
deep
dive
or
talk
in
general.
C
J
Would
I
would
disagree
with
you
that
that
there's
a
phenomenal
unders
or
that
there
is
a
high
understanding
of
blockchain
or
of
public
blockchain
in
general
right?
It's
just
it's
not
it's
like
it's
like,
and
why
is
that?
Because?
Because
if
you,
if
you
know
if
you,
if
someone
is
really
well
educated
on
on
on
that,
you
ask
them
what
are
the
four
main
characteristics
of
a
of
a
of
a
blockchain
and
they
don't
start
with
with
with
with
a
a
a
a
a
provable
time,
linearization
aka,
stamping
service,
then
they
don't
understand
it.
J
J
If
you're
talk,
if
there,
if
there's
a
there's
a
trend,
very
large,
transnational
or
organization
that
I
had
to
convince
to
to
to
not
do
performance
testing
of
a
blockchain,
because
it's
irrelevant
for
the
use
case,
they
were
they
were
using
because
they
were
trying
to
use
it
as
a
as
a
as
a
as
a
shared
database.
I'm
like
yeah,
you
just
use
mongodb
or
use
postgres.
Whatever
you
have
the
same
thing,
it's
like
why
it's
like
it,
the
the
uneducation
piece
that
john's
talking
about
is
like
it's
like
it's
like.
J
C
G
C
G
C
C
I
I
haven't
listed
it
yet
I
mean
I
it's
not
complete
yet,
and
that's
one
of
the
things
I
was
talking
to
you
about
is:
we
could
probably
do
do
a
roll
out
as
part
of
the
three
trunk
thing,
because
this
is
obviously
not
our
code
thing
right.
It's
just
something
that
I
did
on
the
side.
So,
let's
play
with
it.
You
know
maybe,
along
with
tree
trunk
and
see
where
it
goes
and
by
the
way
john
tolkien
right.
He
drew
those
graphs.
C
B
D
No,
that's
all.
Thank
you
all
for
joining
and
providing
updates.
Thank
you
to
those
in
the
community
who
joined
the
call
as
well
and
we'll
have
our
next
general
assembly
in
a
month
from
now,
but
we
will
have
our
normal
baseline
show
next
wednesday
and
last
call
for
those
who
are
eligible
voters
claudia
sent
out
the
emails
so
make
sure
you
review
that
and
forward
the
responses
as
she
mentioned.
So
your
votes
stay
anonymous,
but
get
your
votes
in
and
join
the
community
and
see
you
all
next
time.