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A
Hey
everybody:
this
is
john
walpert
and
we're
here
with
the
our
weekly
office
hours
for
the
baseline
protocol,
good
to
see
everybody
here
today
we
have
some
announcements.
We
have
some
things
to
discuss
and
we
are
here
to
talk
about
baselining
and
all
things
baseline.
A
If
you
are
not
familiar
with
the
baseline
protocol,
go
to
http
colon
baseline
dash
protocol.org
and
go
ahead
and
learn
all
you
can
about
that
join
us
on
our
slack
channel,
which
you
can
get
the
inviter
to
right
up
at
the
top
right
corner
of
the
the
page,
and
if
you
like,
these
videos
hit
the
smash
button
smash
the
hit
button.
A
Oh,
that's
good!
Yeah,
I'm
hip!
I'm
with
it!
It's
good
to
see
everybody
here:
tyler,
boris,
breslav,
dan
shaw,
hank
and
gardener
and
mariano
savage,
who
is
our
new
baseline
protocol
project
manager,
who's
going
to
whip
us
all
into
shape
and
make
sure
that
the
v1
version
version
one
of
baseline
protocol
gets
out
on
time
and
and
ready
to
go.
A
Hey
bob!
You
got
your
you're
off
mute
I'll,
I'll,
mute.
You
just
real
quick
just
for
samurai
kishore
is
here
to
talk
about
an
exciting
new
development
in
india,
around
baseline
protocol,
and
I
see
mohan
is
there
and
nick
our
cast
of
characters.
A
It's
good
to
see
you
guys
sam
stokes,
just
back
from
catch
and
fish
and
yeah.
So
let's
get
right
into
it.
Samurai.
We
want
to
talk
about
later,
I'm
hoping
that
we
we
get
our
illustrious
friends,
dan
burnett
and
guy
martin
on
the
call.
A
There
was
a
problem
with
the
scheduling
software
for
the
this,
for
the
youtube
side
of
the
earth,
of
the
the
the
zoom
side
of
this
of
this
event
and
it's
possible
that
they
never
got
the
the
prop
the
invites
properly.
So
if
that
is
the
case,
apologies
to
them
and
we'll
we'll
get
them
back
on
the
show
next
week,
I
guess,
but
in
the
meantime
samurai.
I
think
why
why
don't
you
give
us
the
news
about
about
the
baseline
show
in
india.
B
You
know
as
excited
as
I
can
be
this
week
has
been
very
very
amazing.
We've
got
fantastic
response
on
the
announcements
that
we
made
of
baseline
coming
to
india.
I
think-
and
all
of
you
have
been
very
supportive
within
the
tsc
within
this
group,
as
well
as
people
who
may
be
watching
us
on
youtube.
I
think
the
community
in
general
has
welcomed
and
welcomed
us
very
well.
We
are
going
live
with
the
first
india's
pacific
office
hours,
slash
baseline,
show
on
the
coming
saturday
at
6
00
p.m.
B
So
it's
been
kept
to
slightly
overlap
with
your
time
zone
as
well.
John.
So
you
know
thanks
so
much
you
and
nick
have
been
very
supportive
and-
and
of
course
you
know,
I
look
forward
to
welcoming
you
on
the
first.
You
know
maiden
episode
as
well.
As
you
know
the
responses
from
our
india
sponsors.
You
know
all
thanks
to
the
great
work
being
done
by
you
and
carol
that
has
been
fantastic,
so
so
yeah.
I
hope
to
start
off.
B
You
know
and
we
hit
the
ground
running
and
and
and
come
up
with
some
really
fantastic.
You
know
at
least,
let's
start
with
a
community
uses
which
is
working
on
their
versions
of
baseline,
and
what
are
they
doing
with
baseline,
so
really
excited
about
it
and
and
hope
to
bring
them
on
here
as
well.
A
That's
terrific
sunrise:
how
do
I,
how
does
anyone
get
an
invite
to
the
the
event?
How
do
they
find
out
about
it?
Where
can
they
learn
more.
B
Yeah,
so
so
for
the
on-ramp,
I
think
tom
leons
has
done
a
fantastic
job
on
the
documentation
as
well,
so
just
start
publishing
that
via
the
website.
So
I
think,
for
now
anybody
who
needs
to
on-ramp
who
needs
to
join
us
has
to
go
to
the
website,
which
is
baseline,
hyphen
protocol.org
from
there.
They
should
join
the
slack
channel
and
we
will
be
releasing
you
know
the
time
etc.
On
linkedin,
as
well
as
the
slash
channel
and
twitter
as
well.
B
A
B
So,
if
anybody's
hyper,
responsive
on
linkedin
and
twitter,
so
yeah,
anybody
who
wants
to
hook
up
contribute
just
please
come
over
and
and
we'll
have
a
chat.
The
and
I've
also
created
a
whatsapp
group.
You
know
that's
also
for
the
sponsors
there's
also
a
community
which
is
getting
associated
with
us
to
begin
with
it's
called
d
centrum.
They
already
have
some
serious
dev
community.
What
they
do
is
you
know
this
is
interesting.
B
You
know
I
want
to
bring
it
on
on
to
this
show,
and
you
know
for
all
of
you,
as
well
as
people
watching
on
youtube.
This
new
community,
which
is
getting
associated
with
us,
is
slightly
different
than
you
know.
The
kind
of
toastmasters
we've
seen
in
the
past,
where
every
week
is
a
new
thing
in
blockchain
they
are
bringing
news
news
and
new
protocols
et
cetera
every
week.
So
you
know
there
is.
That
is
one
segment.
B
I
I
appreciate
that
format
as
well,
but
this
community
has
been
operating
in
a
way
that
they
they
create
cohorts,
so
they
they
create
some
experts,
some
champions
within
the
founders,
so
there
are
seven
community
leaders
and
amongst
themselves
they
take
up
the
responsibility
of
a
protocol.
Let's
say:
they've
now
agreed
to
also
pick
up
baseline
protocol,
so
they
themselves
will
become
champions
first
and
then
they
will
push
a
whole
cohort
which
will
be
40
to
50
people
through
the
next
two
three
months
and
help
them
develop.
B
You
know
using
baseline
protocol
and
you
know
they
are
super
super
excited
about
the
grants
program
as
well
so
yeah,
let's,
let's
get
let's
get.
Let's
get
prepped
up
for
seeing
many
more
applications
coming
our
way.
A
That
sounds
great
yeah,
so
once
again,
for
anybody
that's
tuning
in
what
what's
the
time
frame
again
for
the
for
the
next
one.
B
A
B
B
No,
I
don't
think
anybody
in
tech
company
is
working
or
you
know
it's
the
other
way
around
as
well
with
the
lockdowns.
People
are
working,
24
7.,
so
I
think
having
it
having
saturday
is
more.
Like
you
know,
flights
are
in
the
in
the
hangar.
It's
more
like
maintenance
upgrades
happening
on
saturdays
five
days
of
the
week.
Are
you
know
they're
just
super
super
choked
for
for
most
of
the
people,
so
I
think
you
know,
since
you
also
have
to
attract
a
lot
of
you
know.
B
Besides
corporate,
we
also
have
to
attract
a
lot
of
individuals
to
the
community.
I
think
that's
why
saturday
works
out.
A
What
the
time
frame
is
so
wait,
so
6
p.m.
On
saturday,
in
ist,
is
8
30
a.m.
On
saturday,
us
eastern,
okay
yeah-
I
don't
know
why,
but
I
am
terrible
with
time
zone
math,
but
yeah,
okay.
So
that's
good.
It's
good
to
know
very
excited
about
the
show.
Samrat.
Are
you
gearing
up
with?
I
I've
seen
your
some
of
the
graphics
and
that
you
guys
are
putting
out.
So
it
looks
like
we're.
Gonna
have
to
lift
our
game
over
here.
B
Yeah,
the
designers
have
done
a
fantastic
job.
I
think
on
creating
the
graphics
there's
this
there's
a
cool
one.
You
want
me
to
show
it
right
now
and
sure
I
can
bring
it
up.
A
There,
the
baseline,
show
india
that's
great,
all
right
all
right.
B
Then
there
are
individual
invites
as
well,
which
I'll
be
sending
out
to
community
leaders
and
our
sponsors
as
well,
so
so
so
yeah.
I
think
it
gives
us
a
sense
of
you
know.
Being
more
professional
outgoing
with
our
sponsors
gives
a
sense
of
belongingness.
You
know
when
people
do
show
up
and
present
their
ideas.
You
know
present
their
projects.
What
they're
doing
on
baseline
I'll
be
featuring
them
on.
These
invites
as
well.
A
Right
now,
so
for
again
for
in
all
in
all
seriousness,
hit
that
subscribe
button,
if
you
want,
if
you
want
to
be
advised
of
the
time
frame
for
and
and
the
upcoming
events
for
the
indian
shows
as
well
as
ours,
I
think
some
right
you
and
I
should
both
commit
to
you
know
getting
the
booking
those
in
earlier.
I
know.
Often
I
will
I'll
wait
till
just
the
last
minute
to
book
in
the
the
upcoming
upcoming
show.
A
A
Well,
that's
great
congrats
again,
so
I
know
that
there,
the
two
things
that
I
was
planning
on
having
a
conversation
about
today,
one
was
dan
burnett
and
guy
martin
coming
on
talking
about
the
new
combination
of
the
enterprise
ethereum
alliance,
as
well
as
the
with,
along
with
the
oasis
organization,
that
the
the
two
are
have
have
announced
that
they're,
that
everything
that
we
do
with
baseline
protocol
and
with
several
other
projects
are,
are
now
wrapped
up
in.
A
What's
called
the
enterprise
ethereum
alliance
open
projects
and
that-
and
that
is
administrated
through
oasis,
so
they
were
we're
hoping
to
get
them
on
the
show
to
talk
about
the
ins
and
outs
of
that
the
details
and
again
something
went
wrong.
I
think
with
calendaring
on
on
zoom,
so
we
don't
have
that.
I
don't
see
them
on
on
right
now,
but
there's
that
also
we
we
just
approved
our
first
grant
distribution
so
that
that's
exciting.
A
So
the
first
person
to
get
some
money
out
of
out
of
our
grant
program
has
has
been
approved,
so
they'll
be
getting
paid,
which
is
exciting
and
we
have
two
more
grants
that
are
being
completed
and
two
other
ones
that
are
just
being
finalized.
One
has
gotten
the
votes
to
to
be
approved,
and
one
is
still
one
vote
shy,
but
not
all
votes
are
in
so
congrats
to
all
of
those
folks,
and
I
believe
this
washery
day
is
going
to
come
on
either
this
week
or
next
jack.
A
Do
you
know,
I
know
that
she's
been
working
with
you
guys
over
provide
to
make
sure
that
she
can
deliver
the
excel
spreadsheet
integration,
which
I'm
really
excited
to
see.
C
Yeah
bishwashri's
been
doing
some
great
work.
We
were
working
with
her
late
last
night,
her
early
morning
getting
that
all
prepared
for
the
demo
of
that
next
wednesday.
We're
really
looking
forward
to
it.
Hopefully,
as
you
had
mentioned
in
the
past,
you
get
a
little
bit
of
eyes
on
it
from
the
microsoft
ecosystem
and
some
of
the
people
kind
of
you
know,
partners
and
community
members
within
the
microsoft
ecosystem.
C
You
know
just
to
get
some
eyes
on
it,
but
yeah
we're
really
looking
forward
to
those
that
are
following
along
we'll
be
able
to
follow
and
set
up
the
baseline
stack
locally
and
see.
You
know
some
of
the
insights
that
we've
been
able
to
gather
and
where
we
can
kind
of
apply
the
baseline
of
microsoft
itself
too.
A
Great
yeah,
I
don't
see
washroom
today,
so
I
guess
we'll
we'll
look
forward
to
that
next
week.
Yeah!
So
that's
that's!
So
we've
got
the
the
folks
on
again.
I
think
that
we
might
have
had
a
calendaring
thing.
Something
went
wrong
with
zoom
such
that,
like
everybody,
that's
that's
got
registration
to
this
event.
A
No
longer
has
it
it's
not
on
their
calendars,
so
I've
got
to
go
figure
out
what
that
is
and
and
we'll.
So
I
think
perhaps
some
of
the
people
who
are
planning
to
come
on
and
ask
questions
and
talk
about
things
that
are
missing
this
because
of
that,
so
we'll
figure
out
what
happened
with
that.
A
And
yeah
I'm
hearing
yeah,
I'm
seeing
on
the
on
chat
and
zack
saying,
send
another
invite
we'll
do
so
and
yeah
as
far
as
that's
concerned,
I
think
that
we're
we,
you
know
we
have
lauren
gibson
on
and
lauren
is,
is
on
our
team
working
on
one
particular
question.
So
I
guess
I'll
take
the
the
opportunity
to
discuss
the
question
that
we
have,
that
we're
posing
to
everybody
and
if
you're
watching
the
show
you
might
wanna,
you
know
ping.
A
My
my
twitter
handle
jaywalpert
or
otherwise
get
in
touch
with
us
over
our
slack
channel
and
talk
about
this
one
question.
The
question
is:
what
goes
wrong
when
you're
trying
to
get
paid?
Why
yeah?
A
What
goes
wrong
when,
when
companies
are
trying
to
pay
each
other
and
they
have
net
terms
of
you,
know,
30
60
90
days
and
the
the
purchaser
doesn't
pay
on
time
or
pays
incorrectly
or
pays
not
at
all
what
causes
it?
What
we're
looking
for
good
stories!
A
So
if
you've
got
a
story
like
that
feel
free
to
come
in
and
talk
about
it,
we
might
push
you
into
an
article.
E
Yeah-
and
I
would
just
say
that
if
anyone
has
any
stories
like
that,
you
go
onto
the
slack
channel
and
you
can
find
me
on
there
and
just
ping
me,
and
maybe
we
can
set
up
a
time
to
interview
that'd
be
great.
A
Right
on
thanks,
lauren
folks,
on
the
call
you
have
did
anybody
here
have
some
good
stories
about
payment
failures.
C
I
don't
personally
have
one
myself,
but
I
know
that
as
we're
exploring
some
interesting
use
cases
with
servicenow
and
servicenow
customers,
what
resonates
with
them
is
the
reduction
in
claims
disputes
and
the
opportunity
to
do
so,
and
so
that
is
something
that's
just
continues
to
kind
of
come
up
through
conversations
that
organizations
feel
would
be
hugely
impactful
to
remediate
and
reduce,
and
so
we're
at
the
forefront
of
some
of
these.
But
that
has
been
something
that's
been
really
interesting.
A
Yeah
right
now
jack,
I
mean
there's
some
pretty
interesting
statistics
out
there
on
the
subject.
For
example,
this
exim
bank
reports
that
60
of
invoices
are
paid
late,
although
interestingly
japan,
on
average,
pays
six
days
early,
the
us
is
seven
days
late,
yeah,
so
there's
quite
interesting.
Stats
on
that
things
that
cause
late
payment
or
non-payment
pricing
errors.
A
Invoice
was
paid
to
the
wrong
supplier
adjustment
to
the
quantity
of
an
invoice
rate,
change
adjustments,
some
of
the
obvious
things,
but
but
a
lot
of
things
that
most
people
would
not
think
about.
Volume
rebates
not
taken
duplicate
payments,
and
I
think
that's
one
of
the
things
that
baselining
properly
would
really
help.
Is
that
and
then
just
general
coding
errors,
if
you're
using
edi?
Or
what
have
you
get
the
codes
wrong.
A
Some
other
interesting
stats
are
that
yeah
errors
in
invoicing
and
problems
with
duplicates
costs
can
cost
small
mid-sized
enterprises
as
much
as
twelve
thousand
dollars
a
month
just
in
just
in
dealing
with
duplicate
payments.
F
John,
I'm
not
that
familiar
with
the
invoicing,
I
guess
in
the
purchase
the
purchase
the
pos
process,
but
in
finance
in
general
there
was
there
was
a
concept
of
counterparty
risk
which,
which
is
which
is,
I
don't
know,
what's
what
is
what
is
exactly
as
far
as
like
invoicing?
How
is
it
being
handled
or
does
it
exist,
but
but
in
finance
at
least
the
the
broker
dealers,
the
banks,
I
mean
there
is
such
a
thing
that
you
have.
F
You
have
a
risk
account
body,
credit
risk,
different
types
of
risk,
credit
risk
is
one
of
them,
and
maybe
I
mean
the
different
types
of
risk
that
you
encounter
with
the
counterparty.
So
it's
something
that
they
like
the.
If
you're
the
bank
and
you're
dealing
with
a
certain
counterparty
you,
you
kind
of
you're,
aware
of
it,
I
mean
there's
certain
measures
that
the
bank
itself
takes
and
then
they're
like
known
regulatory
measures
that
the
regulators
kind
of
put
on
you.
F
They
say
you
can't
be
exposed
to
certain
counterparties
more
than
like
a
certain
percentage
percentage
of
your
total
capital
right.
So
it's
yeah.
I
I
mean
invoices,
I'm
not
that
familiar
like.
I
never
in
the
bank-
and
I
never
like
dealt
with
the
like-
find
invoice,
financing
and
so
on.
But
it's
something
to
think
about,
especially
with
baselining.
A
That's
right,
yeah.
I
think
that
baseline
is
a
good
way
or
baselining
properly.
Between
companies
gives
them
the
ability
not
only
to
report
on
compliance
in
under
zero
knowledge
so
that
they
can
more
safely.
You
know,
report
on
you
know,
be
compliant
and
manage
regulation
without
exposing
all
their
data.
A
That's
a
really
good
thing
that
that
should
make
it
a
lot
easier
to
you
know
to
to
comply
without
without
sort
of
being
too
exposed
and
also
yeah
things
like
duplicates.
You
know,
if
you,
if
you're
properly
baselining
your
invoices,
then
you're
you're,
gonna,
you're
gonna,
reduce
duplicates
you're
gonna
reduce
disputes.
A
I
know
that
you
know
way
back
in
the
day
we
we
did
a
project
in
2015
that
reduced.
You
know
at
any
given
time,
and
this
was
publicly
shared
in
the
at
the
time
ibm
ibm,
global's
finance
had
at
any
given
time.
A
I
remember
the
exact
numbers,
but
it
was
a
hundred
million
dollars
or
more
in
disputed
invoice
in
disputed
payments
that
were
tied
up
in
disputes
and
the
average
amount
of
time
that
it
took
was
something
like
40
days
or
more.
Maybe
it
was
60..
Forgive
me.
I
don't
remember
the
numbers
exactly,
but
they
it
was
a
lot
and
just
using
a
centralized
or
semi-some
centralized
system,
but
but
you
know
getting
all
of
the
payers
onto
that
same
on
the
same
page,
reduced
disputes
by
a
huge
amount.
A
But
the
real
question
is
how
much
does
counterparty
risk
account
for
bad
debt?
Bad?
You
know
companies
just
going
going
going
bust
or
you
know
fraud.
What
have
you
right?
The
real
stuff
versus
confusion,
because
where
baseline
applies,
is
confusion,
it's
where
my
information
and
your
information
are
not
in
a
state
of
sync.
A
What's
really
interesting
to
me,
and
I
think
lauren
you'd
agree
perhaps
is-
is
that
kind
of
failure
right?
I
think
that's
kind
of
the
the
dark
matter
of
these
failures,
the
or
the
the
the
last
mile
of
of
counterparty
risk
is.
A
Not
only
are
you
going
to
go
out
of
business
or
you
know,
are
you
going
to
go
bankrupt
or
you're?
Just
not
gonna
pay
your
bills
because
you
can't,
but
rather
I
you
didn't
even
know
you
had
a
bill
or
you.
You
know,
there's
a
one
extra
zero
on
that
bill
and
you
don't
know
why.
E
And
that's
something
that
some
of
my
clients
used
to
experience
in
the
past
in
these
issues,
with
the
invoice
such
as
the
data
not
matching
up
correctly
and
a
collector
having
a
problem
trying
to
understand
what
how
how
why?
Why
did
this
happen?
A
Yeah
yeah
bob.
You
got
any
good
good
old
stories
about
about
companies.
Not
you
know,
we'll
pay
their
bills
correctly.
G
It's
it's
an
a
it's.
As
you
know,
it's
an
age-old
problem
right
and
I
think
the
one
of
the
challenges
is
that
big
companies
tend
to
stretch
it
out
longer
and
make
the
little
companies
wait
to
get
their
money.
G
G
A
Seen
it
I've
seen
it
successfully
happen
even
with
private
blockchains,
but
the
problem
is
you've
got
to
set
them
up
every
time
you
might
as
well
have
just
done
it
traditionally
right
right
right.
That's
why
yeah,
I
think,
that's
where
baselining
can
come
in
right
is
to
say
yeah.
We
don't
have
to
set
it
up
every
every
time.
You've
got
the
you
know,
we've
got
synchronicity,
that's
tablet,
or
you
know.
We've
got
data
sync
and
and
workflow
sync
without
having
to
set
up
that
middleware
every
every
single
time.
A
G
A
Right,
it's
not
the
story,
isn't
blockchain
here
right.
The
story
is
verified,
multi-party
workflows,
it's
bpm
across
companies
that
we're
really
talking
about
it.
Just
sounds
too
boring
to
call
to
talk
about
it.
That
way,
right
correct,
but
that's
that's!
What's
really
going
on,
is
the
the
the
movement
of
automation,
not
within
a
single
company,
which
is
what
we've
been
playing
around
with
for
the
last
30
years,
but
within
it
within
multi,
across
companies
in
a
consistent
way
which
doesn't
expose
data
to
each
other
inappropriately,
which
is
kind
of
the
trick.
H
The
impression,
by
the
way,
john,
that
government
is
catching
up,
we're
involved
in
a
number
of
cases
where
there's
business
models
of
companies
that
actually
thrive
on
delivering
reporting
to
the
government
and
then
changing
it
later
on
or
do
dual
reporting.
H
Governments
are
catching
on
and
understanding
that
it
would
be
possible
using
this
sort
of
technology
to
actually
get
correction
or
corrections
out
of
the
loop
out
of
the
process,
basically
providing
them
with
more
text.
Basically,
so
I
I
see
a
lot
of
movement
in
government
and
customs
and
that
sort
of
sort
of
area
at
this
point
in
time,
and
it's
all
to
do
with
with
billing
self-building
that
sort
of
thing.
A
Didn't
didn't
the
was
it
the
g7
or
yeah
they.
They
are
requiring
in
18
months
that
all
trade
be
fully
digitized.
So
well,
even
if
it's
18
years,
it's
actually
at
least
it's
a
it's
a
it's
progress
right.
A
Yeah
and
that's
another
statistics-
that's
quite
interesting-
is
that
in
non-automated,
payables
88
of
them,
according
to
one
study,
had
errors.
A
Another
study
we
know
of
out
of
idc
has
it
at
33
percent
errors
and
that
you
know
30
of
the
largest
companies
in
the
world
still
do
manual,
pdf
or
fax
or
email
document
transfers
and
yeah
33
of
those
have
an
error
and
it
costs
50
cents
per
error.
Just
to
find
the
error
not
including
the
massive
disruptions
that
occur
from
those
errors.
A
H
But
we
also
see,
because
we
do
a
lot
of
sap
customers
that
the
sap
customers
actually
for
the
internal
stuff
they
like
sap
and
then,
when
it's
going
outside
to
the
bank
or
to
reporting
of
of
counterparties,
that
sort
of
stuff
that
want
to
have
a
manual
intervention.
It's
sort
of
okay,
doesn't
sound
logical
to
me.
I
mean
at
the
end
of
the
day,
whenever
you
lie,
you
have
to
have
a
very
good
memory
of
the
stuff
that
you
put
out
there.
It's
it's
as
old
as
the
world
really.
H
A
We
you
know,
we
we
really
like
the
the
sap
team,
and
you
know
I
can't
think
of
a
company.
I
ever
worked
in,
that
didn't
wasn't
using
sap,
but
they,
I
think
that
what's
really
an
opportunity
for
baselining
is
that
you
can
go
from
not
just
baselining
the
not
just
knowing
what
you
know
about
you
about
yourself,
which
is
what
sap
will
give
you
out
of
the
box.
A
Right
is
a
lot
better
control
over
what
you
know,
but
that
without
leaving
sap,
if
it's,
if
you've
properly
baselined
your
sap
system,
with
your
counterparties
that
that
now,
that
system
can
tell
you
not
only
what
you
know.
But
what
reliably
your
counterparties
know
when
you're
supposed
to
know
it.
E
And
that
was
an
issue
with
the
previous
accounts,
receivable
software
that
I
used.
Because
what
would
happen
is
they
would
take
the
information
from
an
sap
and
if
it
was
wrong
there
would
be.
E
We
could
correct
it
in
the
accounts,
receivable
software,
but
that
wouldn't
correct
the
issue
in
sap
and
and
that's
just
another
example
of
data
inconsistency.
E
Absolutely
because,
when
the
data
refreshes
every
night,
because
what
would
happen
is
the
data
would
come
into
the
system
around
2
a.m,
every
night
and
once
it
would
refresh,
you
would
have
to
talk
to
the
it
department
at
the
at
the
large
company
to
tell
them
to
actually
also
change
it
in
their
erp
system
like
sap
and
it
would
just
take.
It
would
just
have
a
take
a
long
time
to
on
both
sides.
For,
for.
D
Yeah,
this
is
a
slightly
different
kind
of
problem,
but
you
know
I
just
want
to
bring
it
up.
Years
ago
I
mean
I,
I
come
from
the
enterprise
integration
space
and
you
know
part
of
the
platform,
and
I
think
about
20
years
ago
or
20.
Just
over
that
we
were
dealing
with.
You
know,
luggage
tracking
for
delta,
and
you
know,
obviously
had
different
airports
and
their
own
systems,
and
you
had
delta's
internal
systems
and
basically
the
problem
was:
how
do
you
go
about
tracking
luggage
as
it's
going
between
different
ports
and
and
and
air?
D
You
know
sort
of
getting
transferred.
You
know,
how
do
you
track
it
right
and
the
way
we
used
to
do
it
was
we
had
a
a
messaging
system
which
was
pub
sub
messaging
system
and
we
had
various
adapters.
We
had
sap
adapters,
we
had,
you
know
adapters
for
pretty
much
everything
that
was
built
out,
and
so
you
know
so
if,
if
they
were,
if
as
delta
was
using
sap,
their
adapter
would
basically
take
the
responsibility
for
for
synchronizing
the
information
that
came
from
other
systems.
D
Right,
I
mean,
and
so
there
was
a
ability
to
keep
the
silos
kind
of
connected.
If
you
were
on
a
bus,
but
the
problem
was
everybody
had
to
you
know
there
had
to
be
an
adapter
for
for
every
system,
and
people
would
have
to
agree
to
use
this
common
platform,
and
that
was
always
a
challenge
right,
and
you
know
this
was
being
done
20
years
ago,
and
you
know
various
iterations
now
you've
got
companies
that
are
doing
enterprise
integration,
like
workato
zapier.
D
You
know
they
provide
adapters,
but
I
find
that
it's
probably
simpler
to
be
able
to
say
whatever
your
system
is
there
are
these
adapters
there's
this
platform,
which
is
not
any
particular
company's
platform?
It's
based
on
a
standard
and
therefore
it
is
it's
democratic
and
all
your
contract
is
is
that
you
need
to
have
a
plug-in.
If
you
will
that
allows
you
to
kind
of
engage
with
this,
but
the
advantage
to
baseline,
I
would
say
versus
traditional
enterprise
integration.
Is
you
don't
have
a
contract
right?
The
contract
is
embodied
within
a
system.
D
You
don't
really
have
a
way
of
sort
of
saying.
I
will
pay
you
or
I
will
pay
you
a
penalty
if
I
don't
have
the
luggage
available
by
a
certain
time.
Right
I
mean
there's,
there's
no
contract,
so
I
can't
say:
oh
there's
a
contract.
So
if
I
comply
I'm
guaranteed
to
get
you
know
some,
you
know
I'm
going
to
guarantee
to
get
my
luggage
or
I'm
guaranteed,
to
get
my
penalty
right.
So
you
don't
have
a
way
of
of
enforcing
contracts.
D
So
when
I,
when
I
looked
at
baseline
when
I
came
in
from
from
my
integration
perspective,
the
thing
I
found
about
this
is
yeah
there
are,
you
know
you
need
the
excel
adapter.
You
need
the
sap
adapter.
You
need
to
integrate
with
service
now,
yeah,
all
of
them,
similar
to
what
any
integration
platform
would
have
to
do,
but
the
ability
to
disclose
only
what
you
need
to
disclose
the
ability
to
set
up
contracts
and
enforce
them
and
have
you
know,
payments
and
and
obligations
enforced,
is,
I
think,
a
unique
win.
D
I
mean
when
I
talked
to
carl
first
about
this,
and
I
told
him
this
is
what
I
see
as
essentially
a
different
approach
to
enterprise
integration
with
baseball.
So
I
see
what
I
wanted
to
say
was
it's
a
larger
opportunity,
perhaps
than
just
invoice.
A
Oh
yeah,
thanks
for
for
saying
that
I
mean
I
obviously
I'm
kind
of
focused
on
the
invoice
thing
right
now,
but
there's
you
know
you
can
baseline
anything
right.
You
can
baseline
any
any
corporate
or
any
data.
For
you
know
that
needs
to
be
shared
between
counterparties
in
a
complex
way,
especially
when
there's
complex
workflows
involved
right.
D
Right
and
then
the
timing
right
now
is
that
obviously,
with
this
we
went
public
back
in
2000
and
you
know
it
was
a
it
was
it
was.
It
was
a
field
of
players
back
then,
but
then
again
in
2017
2012
to
2017.
We
have
now
a
new
crop
of
integration
players
based
on
the
cloud
back.
Then
it
was,
you
know,
enterprise
software.
It
was
on
the
cloud,
but
now
based
on
decentralized,
you
know
d5
decentralized.
D
A
Well,
I
think,
even
if
it's
a
different,
even
if
it's
not
even
if
there
was
nothing
different
between
baselining
and
general
multi-party
enterprise
integration,
the
fact
is
we're
in
the
throes.
Now
of
that
move
right.
I
think
cloud
was
an
important
important
predicate
for
that
you're.
You
needed
you
needed
cloud
before
we
got
into
serious
integration
cross
company.
A
I
I
I
just
the
fact
that
I
have
to
say
cross
company
over
and
over
again
says
a
lot
about.
If
you
say
just
integration,
most
people
that
have
been
in
the
field
are
assuming
that
you
meant
yeah.
I
just
bought
it.
We
just
merged
it
with
a
company
or
we
bought
a
company.
We've
got
to
integrate
their
systems
and
that's
a
very
that's
bpm.
That's
that's
a
very
different
kind
of
animal
than
then
yeah.
The
what's
what's
begun.
With
things
like.
G
A
With
things
like,
zapier
and
and
mulesoft,
and
that
sort
of
thing-
that's
that's
the
only
the
beginning
of
cross-company
integration
efforts
and
yeah.
That's,
I
think,
where
baseline's
at
all
right
we're
getting
close
to
the
the
top
of
the
hour
and
jack,
I'm
seeing
some
questions
about
unibright
and
bass
ledger
anything
you
any
updates!
You
want
to
give
these
guys.
I
know
that
they're
always
looking
for
news
about.
What's
going
on
there.
C
So
much
I'd
say:
there's
a
lot
of
good
things
going
sincerely,
there's
a
lot
of
good
things
going
and
yeah
nothing.
A
All
right,
tough
luck!
You
you!
You
chat
people,
but
I
think
we'll
keep
we'll
keep
reporting
on.
What's
going
on
there
anything
else,
anything
nick
dan,
hey
dan
shaw,
did
you
were
you
on
when
we
mentioned
that
the
first
grant
is
going
out.
A
Yeah
so
and
four
more
in
the
in
the
pipe
so
we're
doing
well.
G
A
Yeah
and
we,
we
should
probably
mention
that
we've
got
a
video,
that's
in
production
right
now,
we're
starting
the
script
writing
on
the
video
for
for
the
baseline
protocol
to
really
kind
of
an
explainer
on
it,
so
that
people
can
really
very
quickly
understand
that
you're
not
putting
data
on
the
blockchain
with
bl
with
baselining,
so
that
I
never
have
to
answer
that
question
again.
A
Yeah
yeah,
let's,
let's,
let's
just
repeat
after
me:
data
for
databases,
hashes
and
proofs
for
blockchains-
you
can't
you
don't
have
to
be
scared
of
the
public.
Blockchain
really
and
you
know,
join
us
in
the
21st
century,
everybody,
the
the
other
thing
that
that
is
very
exciting.
Andreas
had
some
technical
difficulties.
He's
pinging
me
on
slack,
but
he's
now
in
the
middle
of
of
of
section
five,
if
you're,
following
along
with
the
super
boring
standards,
writing
that
we're
doing
the
standards
are
supposed
to
be
boring.
A
Apparently
they
there's
a
new
section
that
andreas
is
working
on
that
will
be
submitted
soon,
section
five,
which
will
be
about
workflow
integrations,
which
is
quite
an
interesting
topic
right.
So
if
you
have
a
workflow
one
of
the
problems
with
blockchain
in
private
or
public
is
that
if
you
set
up
a
workflow
of
some
kind
on
some
kind
of
state
channel
or
something
it's
kind
of
rigid
and
say
somebody
else
is
setting
up
something
of
their
own
at
exactly
the
same
time.
A
You
don't
know
about
each
other
and
then
later
on,
you
realize
that
the
two
of
you
should
be
integrated.
Well,
now
you
have
this
argument:
who's
blockchain,
are
you
going
to
use
or
whose
mq
series
are
going
or
whose
integration
bus
are
you
going
to
use,
and
it
just
becomes
an
over
just
a
silo
war?
Well
with
with
this
new
spec,
if
you've
got
you
know,
a
20-step,
workflow
and
step
number
15
needs
to
yeah
is
able
to
integrate
with
you
know
or
be
input
into
step.
A
Number
12
of
somebody
else's
workflow
you'd
have
that
you'd
be
able
to
have
that
discoverable?
You
could
pass
the
pre-image
in
the
and
the
proof
location
to
the
new
to
the
new
to
the
other
workflow,
and
you
can
have
integrations
of
various
kinds.
So
it's
a
lot
more
kind
of
neural
plastic
than-
and
this
is
an
interesting
part
of
the
spec,
if
anybody's
interested
in
that
reach
out
to
andreas
again
on
our
slack
channel,
which
you
can
get
to
from
baseline
dashprotocol.org,
so
join
us
there.
A
I've
noticed
that
the
stats
are
going
way
up
on
both
committers
and
and
participants
in
the
channel,
we're
growing
again,
and
I'm
not
surprised
because
you
know,
with
all
the
work
towards
version
one
I
think
and
and
the
tools
around
that
and
the
completion
of
the
standard,
probably
in
this
quarter,
will
be
well
under
our
on
the
way
to
production,
environment.
A
All
right
good
to
see
you
all
and
hopefully
next
week,
we'll
have
our
our
calendaring
issues
that
worked
out.
We'll
have
the
have
our
friends
on
talking
about
all
these
new
announcements,
thanks
everybody
and
keep
on
baselining.