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Hi
everybody,
this
is
John
walpert
with
the
baseline
show,
and
this
is
the
latest
episode
of
the
baseline
protocol
Q&A
weekly
session.
We
do
every
week
at
noon.
Us
Eastern
on
YouTube
live
streaming
and
also
on
zoom'
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those
of
you
who
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of
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which
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and
signing
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slacks.
A
We're
gonna
have
a
really
light
fast
show
today
and
in
fact
we
might
end
it
really
fast.
I'm
gonna
give
you
a
link
to
something
that's
happening
right
now
that
people
are
excited
about
and
honestly,
if
I
were
me
or
if
I
were
you
I'd
be
going
over
there
as
fast
as
I
can
to
see
person,
young
and
a
whole
bunch
of
other
cool
companies,
some
folks
from
Berkeley
around
a
thing
called
Z,
C
and
other
other
teams
working
on
baseline
oriented
protocols
around
zero
knowledge.
A
It's
a
great
show
and
I'm
going
to
put
the
link
in
in
the
chat
right
now.
I'll
hang
out
for
saying
and
find
that
link,
and
so
you
know,
if
folks
have
questions,
please
ask
them
this
show
you
know
we're
gonna.
Do
some
interviews
going
forward
and
in
future
weeks,
with
all
sorts
of
folks
and
that'll,
be
fun,
but
we're
also
always
here
to
answer
questions
about
anything.
You
need
to
know
about
getting
involved
with
the
baseline
protocol.
Getting
the
answers,
questions
answered
about
details
on
technology
and.
A
B
B
B
C
A
B
A
A
Apologies
for
that
Johan
ie
from
Jane
link
and
a
number
of
other
teammates
of
his,
and
they
are
quite
excited
about
spinning
up
this
project
on
using
Oracle
and
Jane
Lee
using
a
chain
link
Oracle,
it
could
be
weather.
It
could
be
another
variable
that
we
want
to
parameterize
into
something
Kyle
like
an
additional
conditional
statement
on
the
purchase
order.
A
A
And
that
might
come
over
like
the
chain
link.
Has
this
really
cool
public
knowledge
thing
with
Google
BigTable,
so
you
might
pull
that
off
of
Google
BigTable
and
that
would
be
pretty
cool,
but
bottom
line
is
they're.
The
reason
that's
important
is
if
you've
got
some
SAT
system
over
here
and
some
or
a
collapse
or
JD
Edwards
system
over
here,
your
Microsoft
Dynamics.
Here.
What
have
you
and
they're
all
baselined?
A
That
means
they're
all
gonna
execute
that
code
and
if
they
execute
that
code
at
the
wrong
moment
or
inevitably
they're
going
to
introduce
non-determinism
if
it's
a
variable
that
changes
route
well,
you
go
out
LIBOR
or
yeah,
some
yeah
I
suppose
like
perfect
currency
price,
which
right
yeah,
but
it
could
be
something
else
it
could
be.
You
know
some
real
world
thing
right,
which.
B
A
Anything
where
you
really
need
to
trust
that
nobody's
fooling
around
with
that
data,
but
you
also
need
to
be
sure
that
the
function
Jen
that
the
function
that
you're
calling
is,
if
it's
being
called
in
multiple
places
and
then
ultimately
has
to
generate
a
deterministically
saying
that
it's
a
synchronous
result
to
the
others.
Yeah
you're
gonna
have
mess
right
and
by
the
way
pal
I
mean.
A
A
I
mean
you
know
the
baseline
system
pretty
well,
like
maybe
one
of
the
best
most
knowledgeable
right
now
at
this
point,
which
folks,
if
you're
a
developer,
looking
to
really
make
a
name
for
yourself,
I
mean
you
know:
Kyle
Kyle
has
become
the
MVP
player
in
the
baseline
community.
Everybody
loves
him
and
you
know
there's
still
opportunity
to
make
a
name.
Your
name
for
yourself,
I
mean
Kyle,
I,
don't
know,
I,
don't
want
to
blow
sunshine
your
way,
but
people
call
me
all
the
time
going
hey.
Can
we
can
Kyle
join
our
team?
B
A
So
let's
talk
about
the
the
chain-link
notion
earth
at
the
Oracle
notion
here:
do
you
have
any
thoughts
on
the
design?
I
suspect
that
there's
going
to
be
a
little
bit
of
brain
surgery
that
we're
gonna
have
to
do
on
the
protocol
and
maybe
an
additional
part
of
the
specification,
the
standard
where
we
specifically
need
to
stipulate
hey?
If
you
you
know,
how
do
you
make
sure
that
you
don't
write
a
function?
A
I
mean
when
you're,
when
you
put
the
business
logic
entirely
in
the
zero
knowledge
circuit,
which
is
an
expensive
way
to
go
good
thing
to
do
for
some
things?
But
if
you,
if
you
just
want
to
write
up,
you
know
some
Python
and
put
it
in
a
container
and
send
that
to
your
counterparties
and
make
sure
that
everybody
does
that
the
same
and
use
the
consistency
circuit.
Just
on
its
base
usage
rate,
you
know
just
say:
yeah
I,
don't
know
what's
being
consistent,
but
it's
all
consistent
right
and
now
you've
got
some
code
in
there.
A
B
A
In
the
documentation
and
I
would
I
would
think
in
in
anything
where
we
set
up
a
requires
right
and
say
requires
if
you're
gonna
do
yeah.
If
you're
gonna
call,
if
you're
gonna
promote
I
us
parameterize
certain
things,
you're
gonna
need
to
know
that
you
better
pull
that
from
an
Oracle
or
you're
gonna,
get
a
mess
or
you're
just
simply,
you're,
not
gonna.
Pass
that
proof
right.
A
C
B
Way
the
way
I
see
it
a
simple
microwave.
It
could
be
like
that.
The
workers
level,
where
you
can
say
you
know,
require
six
confidence
block
confirmations
from
New
York
from
this
Oracle
service,
and
then
you
basically
have
a
frame
of
reference
to
use
ours
and
six
block
confirmations.
You
know
in
the
past
values
sort
of
thing
and
then
it
definitely,
though
you
have,
you
still
have
similar
race
condition.
As
far
as
like
what
block
you're
currently
on
you
know,
there's
like
a
relative.
You
know
it's
nice.
We
could
work
around
that.
B
D
A
Me
let
me
go
find
I'm
not
sharing
my
screen,
but
I'll.
Just
I'll
just
grab
the
link
link
using
Oracle's
and
work.
So
here
it
for
anybody.
You
know
for
if
you're,
if
you're
watching
from
home,
then
you
can
grab
that
link
on
on
the
YouTube
channel.
I'll
go
over
to
I.
Do
see
that
we've
got
people
here
so
I'll
make
some
folks,
air
and
Kindles
and
and
it's
got
Stevenson's
alright.
A
A
I
think
will
probably
hold
to
exactly
a
half-hour
on
this
one
today
unless
we
get
a
bunch
of
people
coming
in,
but
we
always
want
to
be
here
at
noon
with
somebody
to
answer
questions
about
about
I
mean
that's
why
we
call
it
office
hours
to
begin
with
these.
These
are
getting
like
a
couple
hundred,
you
know,
and
sometimes
I
think
why
don't
we
got
a
thousand
or
more
views,
so
you
know
for
a
weekly
walkie
show
about
something
like
a
like:
a
back-end
protocol
for
business-to-business
system,
integration,
I
think
that's
pretty.
C
C
Variant
which
I
think
it's
cool,
but
that's
what
we're
working
on,
but
I
just
keep
reading
the
baseline
stuff.
You
know
eventually
it's
gonna
click
and
the
zouk
raids
and
the
night
light
that
they
announced
today.
I
love
it.
You
know:
I'm
gonna
dig
in
there
cuz
that's
what
I've
always
needed
is
that
encryption
messaging
back
and
forth.
So
finally,
I'm
gonna
dig
into
that
yeah.
A
I
think
that's
pretty
interesting
and,
as
I
said,
I
think
on
our
SSD
call
on
Monday
I.
Think
there's
a
real
business
opportunity
for
companies
like
yeah
I
mean
like
the
cloak
Socrates
like
Aztec,
like
like
ernst,
&,
young's
own
research
and
development
team.
They
providing
services
to
generate
libraries
comedy
thing.
This
right,
I
mean
so
yeah.
If
you're
just
doing
something
that
needs
to
have
consistency
from
you
know
between
different
systems
of
record.
B
So
I
think
the
the
zero-knowledge
stuff
with
the
more
complicated
stuff
is
like
definitely
a
problem.
You
know
we'll
start
to
see
some
sort
of
commercials
like
easing
or
like
easier
adoption
over
the
next
six
to
18
months.
You
can
absolutely
use
the
general
like
the
generic
circuit,
that
is,
shipping
with
Anik
or
two
to
get
the
ball
rolling
on
a
proof
of
consistency
between
you
know
between
two
systems
record,
something
that
were
you
know
that
were
focused
on
providing
us.
Actually,
how
do
we
take?
C
One
Binet
of
ipfs
is
throwing
and
there's
a
company
out
there
that
you
guys
maybe
know
about
called
Tech's
textile
textile
IO
and
they
are
allowing
for
encrypted
buckets
of
data
to
be
put
through
file
coin
on
their
node
system,
which
allows
maybe
an
alternative
to
the
ZK
snart's,
which
still
seems
a
little
complicated
to
me.
But
it's
gonna
be
great
for
UI
in
their
clients.
But
for
my
use
case,
which
is
you
know,
management
of
digital
evidence
for
court
systems.
C
It
seems
like
if
we
just
take
the
evidence
and
then
pre
encrypt
it
right
before
it
goes
out
to
ipfs
and
then
we're
using
the
etherium
chain
to
basically
put
that
in
a
721.
Then
we
can
use
the
721
to
go
out
and
look
at
the
encrypted
file
and
then
somehow
they're,
using
like
this
in
an
encryption
scheme
within
that
encrypted
bucket
that
if
you
don't
share
the
sort
of
the
algorithm
they're
using
to
encrypt
it,
which
gets
embedded
actually
in
the
ipfs
file.
That
you'll
be
safe.
C
B
C
C
A
We
we
have
a
hard
time
with
our
blotching
community
right
we've
had
this
shiny
toy
called
blockchain
and
decentralized
systems
like
ipfs,
of
course,
and
all
these
things,
and
now
we
want
everything
to
be
on
those
and
I'm,
like
you
know,
invented
this
thing
called
the
database
a
few
years
ago.
It's
kind
of
pretty
good
technology.
Maybe
we
could
still
use
that
sometimes
right.
B
A
C
Space
I
totally
agree,
and
that's
why
it
for
me:
I
have
to
get
this
evidence
in
front
of
the
judges
or
the
lawyers
or
the
defendants
eyes,
so
I
need
to
encrypt
that
content.
Actually,
some
of
it
can
be
unencrypted
if
it's
some
public
case,
but
most
of
that
court
documentation
of
its
volumous
and
it
has
to
be
encrypted.
So
it
has
to
be
for
your
eyes.
Only
so
I
have
to
do
kind
of
both
sides.
B
A
C
Oh
yeah
I'm
Scott
Stevenson
for
the
last
couple
of
years.
I
I
really
fell.
You
know,
I
fell
into
the
etherium
thing
in
2016,
I
realized
the
microtransactions,
and
the
persistence
here
on
a
public
blockchain
would
be
the
way
in
the
future.
I
thought
it
would
go
a
little
bit
faster.
It's
nice
to
see
the
integrations.
C
I
love
what's
happening
with
chain
link,
but
what
hasn't
happened
is
the
adoption
of
the
web
3
technology,
so
I've
taken
my
concept
of
you
know:
helping
real
world
court
systems
managing
all
of
this
volumes
of
digital
evidence
did
it's
stored
on
people's
cell
phones
and
and
body
cams
with
all
the
police
officers,
and
you
know
private
investigators
out
there
taking
pictures
with
their
phone
and
losing
them
on.
You
know
it's
like
I
could
just
go
on
and
on,
but
the
county
I
live
in
Orange
County.
C
The
Sheriff's
Department
just
lost,
like
this
a
case
with
some
of
their
investigators
that
weren't
properly
documenting
evidence
and
they
were
hiding
it
and
breaking
all
these
laws.
So
digital
evidence
we're
only
collecting
more
of
it
over
time,
so
I'm
just
trying
to
figure
out
a
way
to
use
the
blockchain
technology
of
theory
on
public
chain.
You
know
encryption
and
move
that
forward.
It
could
take
me
ten
years
to
do
it.
Oh.
A
But
again,
if
you're,
if
you
you
know,
if
the
data
is
sensitive,
then
I
don't
think
I'd
want
to
put
it
on
even
ipfs
right,
because
you
know,
let's
put
it
this
way,
I
don't
comment.
What
I
would
do
but
I
think
a
lot
of
enterprises
and
a
lot
of
government
agencies
are
not
gonna
any
time
soon
be
putting
those
things
full
out
on
a
fully
decentralized
system
where
anybody
running
a
node
has
access
to
the
bits
right.
Yeah.
A
Right,
yeah,
that's
right,
and,
and
you
of
course,
if
you
know,
if
you
can't
control,
who
has
it
and
and
GPR,
is
quite
clear
on
this
right,
you
know
if
you,
if
you
have
the
bits,
whether
they're
encrypted
or
not,
doesn't
matter,
you
need
to
be
able
to
terminate
those
bits
upon
request
right.
So
if
you
can
do
that,
because
they're
yeah
spread
out
all
over
a
bunch
of
nodes
that
you
don't
control,
that's
from
you.
C
B
I
think
it's
arguable
if
the
keys
are
controlled
by
biased
by
a
in
a
place
where
you
can
actually
delete
the
keys
and
do
that
with
a
user
like
books,
their
right
to
be
forgotten,
I
think
that's,
actually
it.
Maybe
that's
not
how
the
law
is
written
or
interpreted
today.
That
I
feel
like.
That
is
a
good
solution
to
our
problem.
B
A
Yeah
life-
good
life
is
long
right.
You
know,
maybe
maybe
in
the
future
and
I
like
to
live
in
the
future.
I
love,
usually
18
months
in
the
future
myself,
but
lately
I've
been
trying
to
kind
of
turn
new
leaf
and
be
here
in
the
present
and
say:
okay,
what
can
we
get
away
with
today?
What
will
enterprises
do
today
and
today.
A
I
mean
it's
got
this:
where
baseline
protocol
can
be
really
useful,
you
say:
look
you
know
see
so
at
the
you
know
at
the
police
department.
You
don't
have
to
worry
about.
You
know
where
that
date,
you
know
sending
that
into
data
into
a
new
threat
service.
Leave
it
where
it
is.
We
can
talk
about
whether
that's
a
good
place
for
another,
whether
you're
managing
it
well.
C
C
It's
also
why,
in
part
of
Lex
tau,
where
we're
a
bunch
of
lawyers
that
talk
about
this
type
of
stuff,
to
see
how
we
can
still
come
up
with
a
solution
without
creating
too
much
heat
for
ourselves
or
in
court
all
the
time
trying
to
fight
for
those
privacy
standards
or
it
gets
those
privacy
standards.
You.
A
Know
just
a
little
quick
plug
for
something
else
that
Kyle's
doing
common
so
much
man
he's
once
we
deliver
the
unit
Corley
later
this
month.
There's
a
thing
called:
there's
a
DocuSign
integration,
baseline,
DocuSign
love
it
agreements
right
so
and
then
what
I
think
is
really
cool
about
that
and
I've
said
this
before
on
other
shows,
so
people
probably
heard
it
before
is
and
I
wonder
Scott
if
this
isn't
something
that
would
be
really
useful
is
imagine
a
product
that
is,
you
know,
pretty
straightforward,
SAS
product
right.
A
You
know
you
effectively
a
database
on
a
cloud
or
a
set
of
clouds
or
databases,
multi
Taman,
where,
if
you're
a
small
company
that
doesn't
know
anything
about
IT
and
you
get
a
DocuSign,
you
click
it
and
you
and
you
sign.
You
know
you
sign
some
agreement
now.
The
data
from
that
agreement
that
map
to
a
keysight
p
is
for
actual
data
from
those
things
using
in
part
using
a
company,
a
friend
of
mine
that
runs
called
clause.
A
B
A
Syrups,
don't
have
time
for
option;
we've
got
time
for
one
thing,
so
you
got
to
choose
sometimes
anyway,
but
the
bottom
line
is
you
know
that
imagine
just
being
able
to
click
a
button
and
say
now
for
995
in
a
month,
you've
got
a
system
of
record
that
can
be
baselined
with
somebody
else's
very
complicated,
expensive,
ERP
system.
You
have
to
worry
about
that.
A
You
just
know
that
you
know
you
can
go
into
like
a
web
interface
or
an
app
and
see
that
you
know
what
documents
are,
what
agreements
or
what
processes
you
have
baseline
with
other
parties,
so
that
you
know
what
your
obligations
are
and
and
what
their
obligations
are
to
you
in
one
easy,
easy
view.
I
think.
C
That's
what
I've
been
trying
to
do?
That's
why
I
started
the
web
3
VM,
which
stands
for
web
3
vending
machine
and
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
just
find
the
best
little
smart
contracts
that
do
some
basic
functionality
and
we're
gonna
create
you
you
eyes
on
top
of
it
and
you
know,
lead
people
there
and
go
well.
What
is
it
that
you
need,
and
then
you
know
that
the
solidity
contract
is
exposed
to
them.
We
kind
of
explain
what
it
does
so
can
be.
C
You
know
it
can
be
reviewed,
but
it's
just
some
does
some
basic
functions,
taps
the
etherion
blockchain
and
the
most
primitive
way.
Maybe
we
tag
a
you
know
a
data
blob
in
it.
Maybe
we
follow
the
7:21
standard.
I,
don't
really
know
exactly
how
it's
gonna
spin
out,
but
that's
what
I
like
about
Radice
34,
also
it's
what
we
can
get
in
there
and
go
well.
C
This
is
pretty
complicated
and
if
we
had
to
overlay
all
these
smart
contracts,
it
might
be
too
complicated
for
what
we
need,
but
what
I
started
with
is
just
on
one
of
the
little
applications
I
made
on
my
website.
Simple
UI,
you
go
there,
you
encrypt
a
file,
it
goes
to
ipfs,
you
either
return
hash
and
in
the
next
exact
step,
it
fires
off
the
etherium
transaction.
With
that
hash
of
the
encrypted
data,
and
now
you
know
it
cost
10
cents
or
depending
on
the
gas
price
$1.
C
But
now
you
have
at
least
that
starting
point
encryption
over
to
this
other
thing
that
you
can
parse
on
the
chain
go
get
the
data.
Hopefully
somebody
gave
you
the
decode
key,
and
now
you
decode
it
ignoring
all
of
those
other
things
you
talked
about
as
far
as
privacy
concerns
at
G
PDR
and
all
of
that,
but
at
least
it's.
C
A
Let
me
let
me
intervene
here
and
by
the
way,
wonderful
conversation
that
Aaron
feel
free
to
dive
in,
if
you'd
like
or
if
you're
lurking
or.
D
I'm
generally,
a
lurker
yeah,
that's
kind
of
what
I
do
so
I
hope,
I,
don't
sound
weird
on
his
head,
said:
I'll
just
say
one
thing:
real
quick
I
met
Kyle
last
week,
or
maybe
it
was
with
one
of
the
and,
if
you
remember
that
that
conversation,
but
there's
a
I,
mentioned
the
separatist,
okay,
so
yeah
yeah,
basically
yeah
I,
just
I'm
curious
about
how
to
you
know,
extend
or
give
the
ability
for
developers
to
kind
of
plug
in
their
own
functionality
into
baseline,
especially
with
rules
like
if
I
want
to.
D
Is
there
a
standardized
way
to
like
you
know,
somehow
provide
an
interface
that
gets
called.
You
know
at
some
point
in
the
baseline
protocol,
so
yeah,
because
I
the
reason
I'm
interested
is
I'm,
crazily
or
I.
Don't
know,
yeah
I
think
it's
somewhat
a
little
crazy
trying
to
create
a
rules
engine
in
solidity.
So
obviously
that
you
know
got
its
own.
D
You
know
design
design
choices
that
are
that
are
hard
to
make,
but
so
I
created
something
basic
that
works
and
I'm
trying
to
refine
it
with
the
diamond
implementation,
but
but
yeah
I
guess
I'm
more
curious
of
how
could
I
possibly
integrate
that
with
the
basement
protocol.
So
I'm
just
kind
of
listening
and
you
know
lurking
hey.
A
That's
good,
Karen
and
I
would
say
Kyle.
Would
you
agree
that
I
mean
you
know?
What
that's
sort
of
the
point
is:
if
you
put
rules
engines
on
the
blockchain,
it's
pretty
expensive
way
to
do
it.
It's
using
the
blocks
you
as
a
lifestyle,
back-end
state
machine
block
chains
are
not
terribly
good
at
that.
C
A
Probably
never
will
be
I.
Think
here,
I
can
say
this.
Any
state
machine
that
in
requires
consensus
of
any
kind,
will
be
less
performant
than
a
similar
state
machine.
That
does
not
require
consensus,
so
it
will
always
be
less
performant
than
something
that
doesn't
require
it.
So
you
want
to
use
it
where
performance
is
less
important
than
other
things,
and
also.
D
D
It
and
that
could
be,
you
know
you-
could
fire
off
some
rules
that
simply
validate
something
and
it
would
not
be
so
cost
prohibitive.
So
that's
actually
more
aware.
I'm.
If
this
is
gonna,
have
any
sort
of
possibility,
it
would
obviously
just
be
for
that
and
but
it
it
works.
At
least
the
initial
implementations.
D
B
C
B
This
is
usually
an
opportunity
for
baseline
is
in
a
contract
package.
You
know
we're
definitely
looking
at
having
we
make
things
more
upgradeable
right,
obvious,
there's,
obviously
like
the
encephalon
approach,
which
is
sort
of
like
that.
The
standard
like
the
standard
way
to
do
it,
you
know,
has
its
right.
You
know,
there's
there's
trade-offs
and
you
know
for
it
for
the
for
the
young
or
the
nicety,
you
get
it
set
up
and
step
one.
You
know
you
don't
have
as
much
extensibility,
so
I'd
love
to
see
your.
D
B
D
A
D
Yes,
so
it's
just
a
c-sharp
bridge
to
the
etherion
blockchain
so
that
you
know
if
you
wanted
to
write
some
c-sharp
code,
that
does
all
the
goodies
of
you
know,
firing
up
the
transaction
or
just
pulling
off
values
on
the
contract.
So
you
can.
It
does
all
of
that
or
it
gives
you
the
ability
to
see
sharp
developer
to
do
that
so
just
yeah
another
another
Avenue,
another
bridge
to
a
theory,
oh
cool.
A
So
I'd
like
to
let
me
let
me
cut
off
the
conversation
here,
because
I'm
mindful
of
the
time
and
I
also
want
to
make
sure
that
we
get
to
some
of
the
questions
in
the
in
the
live
stream.
We've
got
50
people
watching
this
thing
right
now.
You
know,
even
when
I
told
everybody
to
go
over
to
the
e
NY
thing,
so
you.
C
Could
mention
because
I
haven't
been
in
many
of
the
meetings?
Are
there
a
little
sort
of
likely
user
interfaces
that
are
getting
created,
so
we
can
sort
of
like
overlay,
some
of
the
baseline
34
smart
contracts
and
start
playing
with
them,
or
do
we
just
have
to
go
to
remix
and
sort
of
like
recompile
them
and
it?
You
know
the.
B
B
So
so
I'm
going
to
take
a
look
at
the
core
branch
and
there's
there's
basically
an
example,
app
that's
coming
together.
Still,
the
label
is
work
in
progress,
however,
which.
A
B
Yeah
we
can
put
a
link
in
this
a
bit
there.
There's
there's
a
core
package
that
has
the
contracts
in
it.
You
can
take
those
you
can
you
can
like
flatten
them,
you
can
run
make
flat
I
think
it
is
it'll.
It'll
jump,
flattened
version
that
they
need
to
take
to
remix.
Do
you
want
to
you
to
play
around
that's
one
option?
B
The
other
option
is
there
is
an
example
app
which
is
labeled
work
in
progress
for
their
examples,
/
explain
up
and
that
that
one
will,
if
you
run
it
into
end,
you
know,
will
deploy
all
the
contracts,
and
so
you
can
and
there's
going
to
probably
put
it
in
line
to
the
box
or
in
line.
So
you
can
actually
not.
You
know
not
stumble
around
in
the
console.
There's.
B
You
can't
go
there
and
see
that
working
the
block
explores
not
enter
yet
there's
also
something
that's
coming.
A
little
bit
works
there.
Currently,
if
you
enable
a
few
certain
flags
and
be
added
to
the
documentation,
if
you
add
a
few
parameters
on
the
inviting
environment,
when
you
run
the
tests,
the
in
didn't
test
suite,
it
will
enable
the
roxton
test
note
and
all
the
transactions
will
actually
go
into
the
public
blockchain
using
using
keys
but
it'll
be
document.
B
So
then
you
just
need
a
couple
of
parameters
to
essentially
enable
the
faucet
so
to
pay
the
gas
for
all
your
transactions
that
get
admitted
underneath
the
you
know
test
me.
So
that's
actually
a
pretty
cool
a
bit
of
functionality.
That's
that's
in
a
nick
or
or
you
can
just
run
in
the
integration
suite
for
the
example
app
and
see
it
on
the
public
watch
rate.
A
A
Dpd
says
that
you
know
the
top
is
baseline,
focusing
on
certain
it
and
ER
by
tasks
as
baseline,
focusing
on
certain
industries
to
start
out.
Is
there
a
game
plan
which
companies
are
being
approached,
and
the
answer
is
I
mean
a
game
plan
is:
is
it
again
because
baselining
is,
is
a
standard
by
the
oasis
foundation?
Oasis
is
bringing
a
lot
of
companies.
A
I
get
a
call
kind
of
like
every
day
by
Oasis,
saying
hey
this
new
company
wants
to
consider
joining
the
standards
body
and
for
baseline,
and
then
I've
got
to
go
pitch,
explain
what
baseline
is
all
about
to
them.
So
we
get
that
like
every
day.
Something
somebody
is
some
pretty
notable
company
is
asking
to
get
the
brief
and
usually
along
the
lines
of
hey.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
our
fingerprints
are
on
this
standard,
which
relates
to
another
question.
Somebody
asked:
what
are
the
competitors
to
baseline?
A
Are
there
other
approaches
so
obviously
as
a
standard
and
as
a
as
a
as
a
reference
implementation
and
is
not
a
platform,
not
a
product,
not
a
coin
token
or
scheme,
as
we
often
say,
there's
no
real
competitors
from
a
commercial
perspective.
In
fact,
the
kind
of
the
point
is
to
remove
the
need
for
competing
on
this
particular
subject
right.
A
Just
like
the
same,
you
know
we
don't
have
a
bunch
of
competitors
about
tcp/ip,
there's
no
profit
in
in
Datagram
transmission
unless
you're
selling
routers,
but
that's
a
whole
different
game
right,
you're,
not
tariffs
in
websites.
You
know,
and
that's
really,
the
power
of
the
Internet
is
to
say
hey.
You
know
we
don't
have
to
pay
every
time
you
send
a
packet
to
somebody,
and
so
that
removes
the
profit
motive,
which
also
removes
the
need
for
multi.
You
know
if.
A
In
something,
then
somebody's
going
to
say,
hey
well,
use
mine,
no,
no
use
mine,
no
use
mine
balkanization.
So
if
you
say
look,
baselining
is
not
a
product.
It's
about
something
you
profit
from
directly,
but
can
I
have
lots
of
profitable
activities.
If
everybody
has
a
standard,
then
that's
the
point
right.
So
that's
why
it's
not
a
platformer
product
or
solution.
It's
simply
a
it's!
It's
it's,
not
a
cell.
It's
just
a
piece
of
RNA
that
you
can
it's.
C
A
C
I
got
to
tell
you
this
John.
It
was
really
funny.
A
couple
years
ago,
I
was
watching
some
executive
and
one
of
the
offshoots
from
Microsoft
talking
about
etherium,
and
he
I
could
see
it
on
his
face.
He's
like
we
just
haven't,
figured
out
how
to
turn
profits
on
this
thing
yet
and
I
think
they're
still
trying
to
figure
it
all
out.
I
was.
A
On
the
Internet
team,
at
IBM,
in
the
90s
there
John
Patrick
and
the
great
John
Patrick
and
the
great
Aaron
wallowski
Berger
and
the
and
the
great
Lou
Gerstner,
and
so
many
other
wonderful
people
and
nobody
knew
how
to
make
money
on
the
internet
either.
It's
like
how
do
we
sell
this
thing
and
when
you
realize
no,
it's
not
about
the
internet,
it's
about
commerce
and
the
internet
just
makes
commerce
suck
less
and
that
you
use
focus
on
commerce.
It
change.
You
know
suddenly.
A
Clearly
we
we
were
not
wrong
to
be
interested
in
the
Internet
in
the
mid-90s.
Same
thing,
I
think
with
blockchain
in
general
and
I.
Think
baselining
baseline
is
not
about.
Blockchain
baselining
is
about
business
process,
automation
between
multiple
between
multiple
parties,
so
we've
been
spending
millions
and
billions
of
dollars
on
business
process,
management
inside
single
companies
and
ERP
systems
inside
single
companies,
and
now
we're
saying
no,
no,
no!
No!
No!
A
C
C
Or
something-
and
he
said
we
owe
it
to
each
other-
you
know
being
fed
ex
and
DHL
and
ups
to
have
this
public
thing,
even
if
it's
just
for
finding
out
the
open
shipping
lanes.
You
know
whether
you
know
things
that
we
all
know
that
we
all
need
to
have
to
make
our
own
companies
more
efficient.
We
need
to
do
that
and
that's
when
I
was
like.
You
know,
that's
when
I
knew
that
eventually
we'd
get
there
when
we're
all
gonna
tap
off,
there's
public
thing,
but
it's
gonna
be
private.
C
A
Now
and
so
there's
a
question.
Another
question:
I
any
I
said
you
know.
Maybe
I
should
already
know
this,
but
is
there
a
cooperative
co-op
with
the
inter
work
alliance
and
I
think
the
inner
work
alliance?
Is
this
thing
that
a
guy
I
know
Ron,
Resnick
is
and
and
Marley
gray
and
folks
from
Microsoft
are
are
getting
behind,
which
is
sort
of
the
you
know,
building
standards
around
tokens
and
you
know
I
think
that's
you
know,
there's
that's.
You
know
good
work,
I.
A
Think
yeah
I,
don't
know
that
it's
so
much
a
standard
is
it
sounds
like
it's
a
tool
where
you
put
in
some
parameters
and
it'll,
give
you
a
token
template,
and
that
sounds
like
a
little
nice
little
tool
to
have
I.
Don't
know
where
the
standard
is
in
that.
But
it
sounds
like
a
nice
tool.
Maybe
they'll
sell
it
I
don't
know,
but
yeah
Ron
was
the
former
executive
director
of
the
venture,
the
EEA,
which.
A
Is
now
being
as
the
let
me
make
some
well
a
little
bit
of
news.
It's
out
there
in
the
public
dan
Burnett
who
will
have
on
the
show
in
coming
days.
Is
the
new
executive
director
of
the
EEA
the
way
I
like
to
call
ye
and
I?
Think
Dan
wouldn't
disagree,
although
I
don't
put
words
in
his
mouth,
I
like
to
call
it
the
enterprise
ecosystem
Alliance,
because
I
don't
think
it's
just
about
an
enterprise
right,
it's
about
everybody!
A
So
that's
that's
an
exciting
piece
of
news.
So
no
we
don't
have
an
official
coop
with
the
interwork
alliance,
but
you
know
it's
all
in
the
family.
We
all
know
each
other
guys,
which
industry
do
you,
expect
transition
blockchain
technology
first
and
which
do
you
think
yeah
so
which
industry
I
think
Kyle
check
my
math
here,
but
I
think
you
know.
Baselining
is
all
about
it's.
It's
kind
of
like
a
horizontal
use
case
right.
It's
not
health
care
or
you
know,
I
mean
it's.
A
It's
any
company
set
of
companies
that
need
to
do
process
automation
between
them
right,
so
it's
kind
of
like
back
in
the
day
everybody
needed
a
website
or
web
page
right
and
then
they
say:
hey,
let's
I
want
a
spinning
logo
on
my
web
page.
So
you
got
you
know
they
tell
you
to
do
that
and
then
after
that
they'd
say
hey.
A
We
I
want
a
catalog
on
my
webpage
and
then
somebody
finally
said:
hey
I
want
to
sell
that
catalog
on
my
web
page
and
then
we
had
a
business
and
e-commerce
and
all
that
stuff
same
kind
of
thing
right.
It's
not
that
you
know
you
could
be
in
any
industry.
But
if
you
need
to
have
verified
processes
where
you
have
consistency
and
continuity
of
workflows
between
multiple
entities,
then
you
know
that
you
know
that
would
be
I
don't
know.
Maybe
we
should
call
it
be
commerce
right.
It's
it's
a
baseline
commerce
right!
A
You
need
to
be
able
to
baseline
with
other
companies.
We
need
a
standard
for
that
now,
just
like
we
needed
standards
around
e-commerce.
So
it's
a
it's
a
horizontal
requirement,
but
it's
very
specific
I
got
a
workflow
or
I
got
two
or
three
steps
in
a
workflow.
I'm
gonna
buy
something
from
you
or
I'm.
Gonna
move
some
stuff
from
me
to
you
or
I'm
gonna
ship.
A
My
thing
that
you
shouldn't
know
about
whose
shipping
it
to
somebody
else
and
they
should
know
only
about
what
they
know
or
I've
got
some
pharmaceuticals
and
I've
got
a
contract
with
you,
the
wholesale
them.
But
then
you
know
we
also
have
to
track
it
all
the
way
through
to
the
pharmacy.
But
the
pharmacy
shouldn't
know
much
about
me
all
this
kind
of
compartmentalization
requirements.
That's
where
baselining
shines.
It's.
B
Cool
because
it's
is
like
that's
an
enterprise
computing
standard
meets
a
very
specific
sort
of
targeted
business
process.
Automation
used
case
in
the
in
each
circuit,
so
there's
actually
a
cut
like
it's
really
a
really
specific.
It's
like
the
most
specific
and
large
abstraction
I've
ever
seen
like
it
playing
the
same
in
the
same
context,
you
know
it's
kind
of
interesting.
A
Crypto
or
Dolphus
I'm,
it
says
the
same
it
would
we
need
with
CAD
drawings,
having
the
newest
one
on
the
cloud.
Now
we
must
select
a
drawing
by
hand.
Then
you
have
to
the
danger
of
taking
an
older
one
out
and
I'll
be
honest:
I,
don't
I'm
missing
context
on
that
one.
So
if
anybody
is
figuring
that
one
out
please
chime
in.
A
So
our
baselines
competitors,
yeah
I,
think
that
they're
I
know
that
sa
P
just
published
something
called
I,
think
it's
BBS
or
BSS
Kyle,
which
I
think
looks
a
lot
like
baselining
years
ago,
BBS
for
VSS.
It
was
announced
the
other
day
and-
and
we
know
a
lot
of
those
guys
over
in
s
AP
and
liked
them
a
lot.
Oh
yeah.
B
B
B
B
A
B
B
A
A
Alright.
I
think
that's
will
stay
on
for
just
a
couple
more
minutes
that
there
are
questions
we
really
missed,
feel
free
to
reiterate
them,
but
well.
This
is
this
week
we
were
on
longer
than
I
expected
I
thought
we
were
going
to
just
jump
on,
tell
everybody
to
go
to
ey
and
jump
off,
but
there's
just
so
many
people
watching
the
thought
we'd
better,
give
a
good
show.
So
thanks
everybody,
and
if.
A
A
A
Everyone
thanks
for
a
great
show
for
coming
Wow
on
a
day
that
we
did
not
have
a
celebrity
guest
and
we
told
everybody
to
go
away.
Just
have
50
people.
Still
you
know
hanging
out
with
us.
That
makes
me
feel
really
good,
so
we're
not
going
anywhere
we'll
get
over
to
that
EMI
thing,
because
there
are
some
they're
dropping
some
real
knowledge
there.
It's
really.