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The weekly office hours for the Baseline Protocol open source community, Wednesdays at noon in the US-Eastern timezone. And don't miss the show on Saturdays at 6pm in the Indian (IST) timezone. Learn more at https://baseline-protocol.org.
Date: March 2, 2022
Guest Speakers: Antoine Toulme (Splunk)
Theme: Data, InfoSec, Splunk & more!
A
A
Show
every
wednesday
at
noon:
u.s,
eastern
and
on
saturdays
at
was
it
still
8
8?
Am
us
eastern
in
india,
3.
C
D
A
Us
eastern
yeah-
I
I
can't
do
the
math
on
that
switch,
but
yeah
every
week
it's
good.
A
Here
we
are
with
our
our
our
illustrious
panel.
We
have
mark
haddle,
the
indomitable.
We
have
keith,
you
have
bitton
mark
rimsa,
the
the
latter
three
there
keith,
yov
and
mark
are
now
officially
on
the
baseline
team.
At
consensus,
mesh
welcome
came
over
from
general
motors
gm,
the
gm3
we
have
I'll
be
working
with
sonal
and
supporting
exclusively
supporting
the
baseline
protocol
and
watching
my
car.
We
have
charles
todd
money,
jane
natarajan,
jack
wiring,
the
the
the
inevitable
and
diego
vasquez.
A
Diogo
is
good
to
see
you
we'll
have
to
have
to
have
you
introduce
yourself
and
parthbot
as
well
and
and
our
illustrious
interviewee
today,
antoine
tulle,
who
is
from
splunk
and
sonal,
will
be
interviewing
him
today
and
we'll
be
finding
out
what's
going
on
with
splunk
before
we
do
that
diogo.
Would
you
like
to
say
a
few
words
about
what
what
you're
doing,
how
you
got
here
and
anything
else.
F
Yes,
so
hello,
everyone!
Thank
you
john.
I
had
spoken
with
with
sono
before
this,
but
I
joined
baseline,
based
on
some
work.
Conversations
that
I
was
having
where
I'm
working
and
then
I
decided
to
to
dive
into
blockchain
quite
recently,
actually
and
baseline,
was
one
of
the
ways
that
I
that
I'm
actually
deep
diving
a
little
bit
more
and
it's
it's
a
pleasure
to
be
here.
A
Pleasure
to
have
you
it's
good
to
see
you
hey
parth,
what's
up
what's
up
with
you,
how
do
you
want
to
say
anything.
C
Sure,
hello,
everyone
I
have
been
attending
baseline
meetings
passed
in
2020.
This
is
like
I'm
coming
back
so
nice
to
be
here
and
trying
to
basically
keep
myself
updated
on.
What's
going
on
in
this
blockchains,
please.
A
All
right
well
lots
to
get
updated
about
good
to
see
you
too
does
anybody
else,
have
any
announcements,
anything
to
say
anything
to
talk
about.
A
All
right,
well,
sonal,
it's
it's
your
show
and
antoine
it's
great
to
see
you
say
hi
to
all
of
our
friends
over
at
splunk.
B
E
Absolutely,
and
so
I
wanted
to
thank
you
for
inviting
me
over
to
the
show-
it's
it's
a
pleasure
and
another,
so
my
name
is
antoine,
I'm
originally
from
france.
I've
been
in
silicon
valley,
since
2008
2009
worked
mostly
in
startups.
I
finished
a
job
at
israel
cloud
in
2017.
E
E
So,
in
a
separate
life
over
10
years
ago,
I
used
to
work
for
a
company
called
intelio,
where
we
were
doing
all
sorts
of
interesting
things
with
digitization
business
processes,
and
I
find
that
the
baseline
protocol
has
kind
of
this
disperement
as
well.
It's
talking
about
some
very
basic
needs
from
a
business
perspective
that
I
feel
resonates
well
with
my
best
experience.
E
Yes,
that's
gonna
be
a
long
one,
so
the
baseline
framework.
I
had
this
this
discussion
with
john,
when
we
were
talking
about
how
would
you
pitch
the
baseline
framework
to
to
bystanders
people
who
don't
really
want
to
get
into
crypto
discussion?
They
don't
really
care
about
blockchain
they're
busy
with
business
right,
and
so
what?
What
john
was
trying
to
do,
which
I
found
it
is
the
ultimate
art
of
of
speeching
and
selling.
Something
is
that
we
don't
talk
about
the
tech.
E
We
don't
talk
about
how
blue
sky
it
is
or
revolutionary.
It
could
be.
We
talk
about
how
it
could
make
your
life
better
right
now
right
and
so
that
that
really
helped
me
understand
a
little
bit
more
about
what
he
was
trying
to
achieve
was
based
on
what
this
committee
was
trying
to
achieve
with
baseline
and
got
me
thinking
about
how
that
could
be
used
with
plant.
So
at
splunk
we
all
we're
all
about
one
thing,
which
is
we're
trying
to
help.
E
E
We
can
make
sense
of
all
those
disparate
sources
of
data,
and
we
work
across
all
the
industries
that
you
can
think
of,
especially
fintech
security
have
been
kind
of,
or
you
know,
daily
bread
in
a
sense,
and
we
at
splunk
think
we
could
use.
We
use
a
little
bit
the
the
baseline
stuff
to
correlate
and
make
sure
that
the
data
that
we're
seeing
is
trusted
between
parties
right.
E
So
there's
a
comment
in
the
spec
that
says
that,
if
you're
using
baseline,
then
it's
you
should
be
able
to
create
that
back
to
your
auditing
records.
Making
sense
of
your
systems
of
records,
making
sense
of
all
the
collection
of
data,
so
spun
can
integrate
with
that
and
make
it
possible
for
folks
to
directly
correlate
the
raw
data
to
what
they
see
in
the
hash.
E
That's
been
stored
on
ledger,
and
that
gives
us
right
away
the
ability
to
to
trust
the
data
that
we
see
in
splunk
right,
there's
another
use
case
just
more
of
a
personal
pet
peeve
of
mine,
which
that
I
see
that
we're
now
respond
in
year,
two
or
three
of
working
with
the
open
telemetry
project,
which
is
a
new
way
to
collect
data.
And
it's
not
just
you
know,
transactional
data.
E
It
could
be
logs,
it
could
be
metrics,
it
could
be
traces
and
that
very
rich
data
is
now
coming
from
a
variety
of
microservices
and
cloud
deployments.
And
I
would
like
to
be
able
to
trust
that
data
by
anchoring
it
into
a
ledger
right.
So
having
the
ability
to
say,
I'm
seeing
all
this
activity
coming
from
my
partner,
they're
sharing
their
logs
with
me,
and
I
have
the
ability
to
go
back
and
and
check
that.
That's
exactly
what
happened
and
there's
no
tempering
whatsoever.
E
So
that's
kind
of
where
we
are
we've
been
working
with
partners
of
the
baseline
protocol
they
specifically
provide.
I
think
we
made
a
big
splash
at
if
atlanta
we
made
a
dashboard
that
showcased
how
we
could
leverage
all
the
information
that
is
being
exported
from
from
this
type
of
systems,
especially
you
know
all
the
ins
and
outs
of
all
the
systems
of
records
that
are
being
interfaced
into
baseline
and
how
we
can
make
that
come
alive.
E
So
you
can
see
now
the
flow
of
all
the
information
coming
in
and
out
being
stored
in
ledger,
and
it's
it's
not
enough
for
you
just
to
know
that
there's
a
ledger
somewhere
with
your
data
did
it
make
it?
Has
it
been
confirmed?
Do
you
have
alerts
in
place
if
something
doesn't
work?
E
So
that's
a
little
bit
of
what
we
see
in
terms
of
a
baseline
integration.
B
B
F
Was
gonna
say,
is
this
something
that
splunk
would
be.
E
Okay,
so
let
me
talk
to
you
a
little
bit
about
how
we
look
at
blockchain
as
block
in
general,
because
I
think
that's
that's
going
to
be
very
helpful
for
you
to
to
frame
it
in
your
mind.
So,
first
off
we
have
already
made
contributions
to
the
baseline
protocol.
We
made,
I
think,
back
in
2020
in
my
early
days
at
splunk,
one
of
my
colleagues
pushed
a
number
of
dashboards
information
to
baseline.
Would
it
possible
for
you
to
get
all
this
information
sent
to
splunk
right
away,
and
then
we
kept
going?
E
We
worked
with
provide
on
additional
dashboards
in
matrix
for
that,
on
top
of
that,
so
the
the
strategy
of
our
team
at
splunk,
I
think,
is
interesting,
which
is
we
could
go
and
build
a
skew
for
blockchain.
We
could
go
and
build
a
complete,
separate
commercial
offering
for
blockchain
services
at
splunk,
but
we
find
out
that
there
is
really
no
limit
to
how
people
would
want
to
be
able
to
leverage
that
blockchain
information.
E
So
what
we
decided
instead
is
to
make
it
the
capability
of
the
splunk
platform
right.
So
all
the
offerings
are
free
of
charge.
They're
part
of
your
subscription,
that's
prompted
to
use
that
as
part
of
your
ingest
or
workload
or,
however,
you
you're
leveraging
splunk
right
now
and
we
don't
charge
a
separate
fee
or
ask
you
for
premium
on
top
of
that
for
your
usage.
E
So
this
this
helps
because
we're
not
in
the
sales
situation
where
we're
trying
to
you
know,
sell
you
a
very
different
offering
and
we
make
it
available
to
your
customers
in
two
ways.
One
is
we're
available
as
part
of
the
sales
system,
the
sales
process,
it's
funk
without
getting
into
too
much
details.
E
We
we
kind
of
enable
salesforce
to
to
be
extremely
precise
and
strive
hard
on
targets
and
show
that
we
have
a
blockchain
practice
at
splunk,
and
that
has
been
helpful
to
break
into
accounts
to
really
make
ourselves
a
separate
offering
from
you
know
every
other
data
provider
out
there
and
the
other
one
is.
E
We
are
a
part
of
the
added
value,
what
they
call
the
on-demand
services,
part
of
our
splunk
offering
and
any
splunk
customer
can
reach
out
to
us
and
ask
for
information
for
a
consultation
with
us
just
to
get
more
information
about
blockchain.
In
this
one.
G
How
are
you
getting
in
and
what's
your
feedback
loop
from
your
customers
and
prospective
customers
on
this
transformational
capability
and
and
how
are
you
getting
their
buy-in
to
say,
splunk's
doing
something
inherently
different,
that's
valuable
to
me!
I'd
love
to
have
our
audience,
help
understand
positioning
this,
this
type
of
transformation
to
business
stakeholders.
Can
you
can
you
talk
about
how
you're
doing
that
at
splunk.
E
Okay-
so
that's
that's
a
very
interesting
playbook
and
there.
So
there
are
two
parts
of
this
which
are
very
different
audiences
for
all
internal
sales
audience.
What
is
the
most
important
thing
for
our
cells
to
understand
is
what
I
just
said
earlier,
which
is
this
is
not
a
separate
capability.
There
is
not
a
forklift
upgrade,
you
know
involved.
You
don't
need
to
stop
what
you're
doing
and
rethink
your
strategy
with
your
customer
we're
here
to
help
with
your
account-
and
this
is
just
more
data
coming
in.
E
So
there
are
two
types
of
data
that
we
are
making
available
to
fund
customers.
We
can
splunk
ledger
analytics,
meaning
we
can
make
available
to
them
everything
that
happens
on
chain
from
transactions
blocks.
We
can
see
collection
traces.
Now
you
can
see
the
whole
detail
of
everything.
That's
been
called
in
a
contract
trace.
We
can
splunk
nfts.
We
can
get
all
the
erc20
data
you
want.
E
All
this
is
available,
just
install
our
toolkit
and
get
going
right
and
at
the
same
time
we
have
developed
infrastructure
monitoring
specialized
for
blockchain
right.
So
we
have
the
ability
to
really
monitor
gas
better.
For
example,
we
work
with
data
providers,
we
know
a
way
around
different
types
of
blockchains,
not
just
ethereum,
but
anything
enterprise,
we're
ready
for
it
and
and
that
makes
kind
of
our
approach,
no
brainer
in
a
very
like
low
threshold,
no
risk
approach
right
or
added
value.
E
So
that's
for
ourselves
and
ourselves
walk
away
from
this
thing.
I
should
just
have
a
chat
with
my
customers
and
my
prospects
about
this.
I
should
write
you
know
I
should
bring
it
up
now
for
customers
we're
seeing-
and
this
is
this-
is
where
I
think
you're
going
to
get
the
kick
out
of
the
discussions.
E
We
used
to
see
a
lot
of
I.t
folks
come
to
us
and
say
we
want
to
use
punk
because
we
have
over
10
different
tool
providers
right.
We
have
acquired
this
company,
we
came
with
xnx
provider.
We
have
this
little
legacy,
app,
that's
running
it
back.
We
don't
know
exactly
how
it's
working,
but
it's
supporting
critical
capability
and
guess
what
now
we're
doing
blockchain.
E
So
we
would
want
to
have
one
platform
provider
that
can
make
sense
of
all
our
data
at
once.
We
cannot
train
everybody
on
all
those
different
sources
of
data.
We
also
want
to
move
to
the
cloud
right,
so
we're
going
to
have
a
variety
of
use
cases
from
legacy,
apps
that
run
on
bare
metal
to
stuff.
That's
going
to
be
kubernetes
in
gcp,
for
example.
Right
and
all
this
variety
of
use.
E
Cases
is
extremely
difficult
to
capture,
and
on
top
of
that
guess,
what
we're
doing
an
nft
drop
tomorrow
and
we
need
to
ingest
discord
data
because
we
use
that
as
a
support
system.
So
we
support
all
those
use
cases
right.
We
have
now
the
amplitude
of
supporting
all
the
traditional
I.t
logs
elements
all
of
this,
and
we
can
go
all
the
way
to
showing
you
real
time,
who's
buying
your
nft
for
how
much
what
is
the
current
ceiling
what's
current
floor?
E
We
can
help
you
with
making
sense
of
of
this
by
the
minute
and
we
can
set
alerts
for
all
those
elements.
We
can
really
help
your
team
sleep
at
night,
better,
it's
not
new
right.
This
is
this
has
been
the
mission
of
splunk
from
day.
One
is
how
do
we
gather
more
insight
from
all
this
data
and
how
do
we
make
it
actionable
for
people,
so
they
can
get
ahead
and
they
can,
you
know,
go
home
early,
that's
that's
a
slogan
from
splunk,
so
hopefully
that
answers
some
of
your
questions.
E
What
we're
seeing
is
blockchain
capability
is
a
differentiator
already
in
some
of
our
early
discussions
and
we
want
to
be
crypto
forward,
meaning
that
we
see
it
coming
up
more
and
more
often
I'll.
Give
you
an
example
out
of
nowhere.
We've
had
a
very
revealing
discussions,
one
with
with
a
company,
that's
crypto
native,
and
I
was
telling
them
hey.
You
know
you
could
you
could
you
could
get
some
more
insights
and
you
just
need
to
run
this
additional
software
and
they
said
well,
we
don't
have
an
aws
account
anymore
right.
E
We
don't
need
one
we're
completely
crypto
native,
so
we
want
to
rely
also
on
cloud
providers
and
data
providers,
just
plonk
that
don't
force
us
to
have
ups
that
won't
force
us
to
have
so
much
leverage,
and
so
there's
there's
a
tweet
that
nate
mccurvey
likes
to
refer
to
in
our
team,
which
is
that
we're
seeing
companies
also
move
away
from
the
the
point
of
view
of
being
monolithic.
E
You
know
complete
warehouses
to
becoming
protocols
and
have
a
very
lean
way
of
interfacing
with
others,
and
this
is
where
bislan
just
makes
a
ton
of
sense.
You
have
the
ability
now
to
remove
all
the
choke
points
between
your
partners
and
yourself.
You
can
really
integrate
at
the
smart
contract
level
to
really
create
composable
interactions
between
all
those
different
companies.
E
So
a
long
answer.
Hopefully
that
was
helpful.
G
No
super
helpful
and
I
have
another
follow-on
one.
That's
that's
pseudo
related
to
the
innovation
cycle
that
splunk
is
undertaking
to
embrace
decentralized
technologies,
a
lot
of
major
enterprises
and
even
small
startups
that
I
I
work
with
cost
is
of
a
real
big
concern.
G
You
know
you
highlighted
that
splunk
is
providing
this
baseline
service
as
a
value.
Add
to
your
customers.
Can
you
talk
us
through
the
the
the
cost
basis?
Analysis
that
that
you
went
through
to
determine
how
you're
you're
able
to
achieve
that
without
increasing
price
points,
because
you
know
there's
a
lot
of
fluidity
and
concern
around
gas
prices
and
compute
I'd
love
to
to
look
a
little
behind
the
scenes
as
to
how
splunk
is
approaching
to
you
know,
bundle
in
revolutionary
capability
without
increasing
your
your
cost
basis.
E
Well,
okay,
so
I'll
go
with
the
joke
that
you
may
have
heard
that
splunk
is
extremely
expensive
or
so
is
the
reputation
that
we
have
early
gotten
over
the
over
the
course
of
years
right
and
I
think
that's
that's
kind
of
a
misnomer.
E
E
You
have
to
remember
that
splunk
started
as
a
very
nimble
box
that
you
would
put
in
your
data
center
on
prime
right,
and
so
I
like,
when
I
was
doing
interviews
with
folks
to
kind
of
get
them
into
the
the
mold
of
what
splunk
can
be
for
them
in
their
life
when
they
joined
the
team.
Is
that
said?
Well,
you
know
splunk
started
as
a
small
boxing
data
center
then
started
to
grow
more
and
more
storage
people
didn't
want
to
get
to
let
go
of
that
data,
so
you
start
clustering.
E
So
now
it's
becoming
a
cloud-based
system
right.
All
this
information
is
is
vital
for
the
company,
and
so
we
don't
need
to
make
you
pay
more
for
this
than
what
you
would
already
pay
at
your
splunk
subscription.
We
believe
that
the
data
that
you're
getting
is
completely
worth
your
your
subscription
or
cost
of
ingesting
it
so
to
back
up
a
little
bit.
E
There
are
two
ways
right
now
you
can
buy
splunk
one
is
based
on
how
much
you
ingest
per
day
right
and
the
other
one
which
is
becoming
increasingly
popular
is
based
on
workloads.
How
much
you
search
every
day,
so
yeah
there's
there's
a
lot
of
that
going
on,
and
I
we
don't
need
to
have
a
completely
different
sales
strategy
just
for
blockchain
we're
well
equipped
with
our
existing
approach
to
make
everybody
successful.
So
we
don't
need
to
go
into
a
separate
sales
discussion.
Does
that
mean
that
make
sense.
A
I
think
otto
has
got
a
question
up
there.
I
know
so
now.
You've
got
them,
but
I
have
to
ask
before
before
we
leave
charles
I've
been
trying
to
figure
out.
If
that
background
is
a
background
or
your
real
office.
If
it's
your
real
office,
I'm
moving
in
with
you
come
on.
G
All
right
antoine,
a
very
interesting
thanks
for
you
know,
taking
the
time
to
talk
to
us,
you
were
you
know
just
explaining
a
little
bit
about
you,
know
your
involvement
with
with
baseline
and
so
on
and
and
sort
of
splunk's
ability
to.
You
know
like
analyze,
these
large
set
of
logs
from
various
systems
right
and
and
make
sense
of
it
right,
but
it
occurs
to
me
right.
That's
that's
a!
We
could
like
enhance
that
capability
and
say
all
these
events
that
are
happening
in
these
systems.
G
You
could
prove
things
about
that
right
without
necessarily
revealing.
You
know
proprietary
or
confidential
information
about
these
systems
and
then
just
use
baseline
for
that
and
enhance.
You
know
that
that
ability-
and
then
you
could,
you
know
just
use
baseline
for,
like
you
know
a
use
case
around
that.
I'm
sure
you
probably
thought
about
something
like
that.
It
sounds
like
you
have
and
if
so
are
you
at
liberty
to
maybe
share
an
example,
or
you
know
just
a
cool
use
case
that
you
might
be
considering.
E
You
leverage
your
knowledge
absolutely
and
I
will
not
oh
well,
okay,
so
let
without
going
into
zero
knowledge,
for
that
means,
is
more
involved
and
there's
so
much
more.
You
can
get
out
of
this,
but
let's
maybe
let's
go
to
boil
it
down
to
the
most
basic
cheesecake
that
I
can
think
of
with
baseline,
and
I
will
yield
here
also
to
my
team
right.
E
So
this
is
from
before
my
time
this
has
been
pioneered
by
nate
mccurvey
by
ryan,
moore
by
siegfried
by
you
know,
steven
and
team,
and
when
I
joined
the
team
they
were
already
really
hard
at
work
on
proving
one
thing
which
has
been
instrumental
to
to
spawn
customers,
which
is.
Can
I
trust
that
data?
That's
in
my
splunk,
you
know.
The
data
that
is
stored
in
splunk
is
can
be
modified
or
attacked
right.
E
There's
a
there
were
multiple
hacks
where
you
know
the
the
hackers
didn't
just
come
in,
they
came
in
and
then
they
removed
themselves
from
the
logs
and
then
good
luck.
Finding
out
that
they've
been
here
right,
that's
the
first
move.
They
don't
come
in
to
steal.
They
come
in
to
stay
right,
so
splunk
is
a
great
target
for
this
type
of
of
of
attacks,
so
we
have
with
prompt
they
teach.
You
guarantee
integrity
of
the
data
that
is
stolen
from
that.
E
It's
something
that
you
turn
on
in
your
logs,
that
you
know
when
you,
whenever
you
store
a
bucket
that
makes
it
available
to
you
and
the
team
you
can,
you
can
look
online,
we
have.
We
have
been
working
on
something
called
data
integrity
that
has
become
actually
available.
E
I
think
we
have
even
now
received
a
patent
for
it
and
the
idea
was
for
us
to
be
able
to
secure
all
the
data
that
is
being
stored
in
our
buckets
and
make
sure
that
it's
not
being
manipulated
very
simple,
very
straightforward,
very
easy
for
our
customers
to
understand
right
and
then
you
want
to
be
able
to
use
a
separate
source
of
truth
from
what
splunk
is.
So
you
can
go
back
to
it
and
say
this
is
the
hash
of
the
data
that
I
stored.
E
I
did
not
manipulate
that
and
therefore
it's
good
to
go
I'd,
love
to
tease
you
on
one
thing:
that's
I
was
reading
the
spec
of
baseline.
I
noticed
that
one
of
the
use
most
of
the
use
case
actually
between
different
parties
different
different
customers,
but
I
would
actually
wager
that
there
is
immense
need
to
build
trust
even
inside
one
party
across
time.
E
So,
for
example,
I'm
currently
working
on
the
opponent,
telemetry
project
and
I've
been
looking
at
finding
a
way
to
add
these
type
of
identifiers
and
kind
of
batch
and
hash
all
the
data
of
a
particular
set
of
records
that
are
being
sent
to
splunk
right.
So
you
can
go
back
and
say
on
that
machine.
I
collected
all
those
logs.
E
They
were,
they
were
tagged
by
the
machine
and
then
I
stored
the
hash
of
it
on
the
ledger.
And
then,
when
I
get
that
data
in
sprout,
I
can
always
go
back
and
say.
Yes,
the
data
has
not
been
tempered
in
transport
between
that
machine
and
the
last
block
environment,
and
I
can
look
at
it
three
months
later
and
still
say
this
is
still
true-
has
not
been
modified.
E
Since
right,
so,
I
believe
that
the
baseline,
in
this
case,
of
trusting
the
data
making
it
available,
sharing
it
with
others
and
giving
it
actual
value,
would
make
a
ton
of
sense
for
us
to
be
alone.
Hey.
A
Antoine,
I
got
a
question
about
that
and
you.
A
I
mean
clearly
I
mean
we've
had
you
know
state
hashing.
For
a
while
I
mean
there
was
a.
What
was
that
company
called
that
was
early
in
the
day
they
would
yeah,
they
would
have
basically
state
hash
any
database
or
system
you
had
onto.
E
E
D
I
remember
I
remember
they
actually
had.
I
think
erickson
was
an
investor
in
it.
I
I,
what
was
the
name
again
yeah?
I
know
they
were.
They
were
doing
like
state
hashing.
They
were
doing
like
like
like
like
hash
chains,
and
it
was
basically.
D
Instead
of
they
came
out
of
lithuania,
they
came
and
lithuania,
latvia,
no
estonia,
sorry
they
were
they,
they
did
it
for
the
estonian
government
with
the
with
their
with
their,
but
that
that
was
the
blockchain
that
they
used
for
for
for
for
for
issuing.
You
know,
passports
and.
A
A
D
Yeah
yeah
yeah,
you
can
you,
can
you
can
yeah
my
question?
Actually
antoine
would
be
it's
like
it's
like.
Would
it
make
sense
to
to
to
to
give
the
servers,
even
even
though
they
might
be,
you
know
virtual,
basically
an
identity,
you
know
issue
you
should
did
and
they
they
they
can.
They
can
do
vcs
and
then
and
then
you
can.
D
You
can
using
like
using
the
vc
http
api
from
from
from
like
w3c
you
can
you
can
you
can
you
can
do
you
can
start
to
be
interoperable
because
it's
like
the
reference
implementation
everything's
there
and
then
you
just
you,
just
put
a
pointer
to
where,
whatever
you
know
where
your,
where
your
storage
is
of
that
of
that
of
that
of
that
of
that
log
right,
that
that
people
can
access
and
then
they
can,
and
then
you
have
put
that
you
know
into
the
credential
subject
or
as
a
as
a
link
relation
to
in
the
vc
and
you're,
basically
done
right
as
long
as
the
as
the
data
is
accessible
exactly.
A
Exactly
I
mean
to
me,
you
know,
there's
there's
three
parts
of
baselining
that
that
matter,
there's
proving
that
we
have
the
same
information
right
in
in
traditional
systems,
right
like
like
splunk,
proving
something
about
that
information
and
doing
so
to
occasionally
you.
G
A
We've
been
doing
this
with
with
sap
who
has
been
leading
this.
This
study
on,
where,
where
do
you
need
baseline?
Where
do
you
not
need
baseline?
It's
quite
useful
and
there
are
a
couple
of
cases.
A
The
battleship
game
is
a
good
example
of
where
you
know
two
parties
can,
you
know,
be
find
a
useful
use
of
baselining,
but
most
of
the
time
it
you
know
it
gets
interesting
when
you
get
third,
fourth,
fifth
and
end
number
of
parties,
because
two
of
the
parties
or
more
need
to
prove
something
to
a
third
party
and
information
security
practice
would
very
very
much
like
to
not
have
to
give
the
clear
text
to
that
third
party
in
order
to
coordinate
and
the
third
part
that
that
that
really
sings
to
me
and
the
one
that
I
think
we
haven't
been
as
focused
on
and
I
I
think
to
our
detriment,
because
I
think
this
is
where
you
can
get
into
some
really
interesting
machinery,
and
I
think,
was
worth
splunk
is
huge-
is
using
it
a
dare
I
say,
as
fancy
kafka
right
to
say.
A
You
know
you
know
in
in
to
your
point
about
internally.
In
a
company
you
can
just
use
kafka
right,
have
all
the
machines,
you
know,
look
at
you
know
the
central
state
machine
and-
and
you
know,
drop
things
and
pub
sub
to
it,
and
you
know
watch
for
key
value
pairs
and
key
off
of
that
right
and
as
long
as
you
have
a
company
with
a
cio,
I
don't
I
don't
know
why
you
would
need
to
get.
You
know
get
into
doing
that
under
zero
knowledge
with
fancy.
A
If
it's
valid
do
the
thing
that
we
agreed,
you
would
do
right.
So
it's
it's
really
about
it's
about
process
management
from
there
and
and
it
looks
like
a
general
loose
coupling
design
pattern
from
there
so
that
those
three
attributes
of
baselining
seem
to
be
the
the
thing
that
kind
of
sings
to
me,
and
I
have
to
think
that
splunk
could
do
crazy,
cool
things
with
that
to
say
yep.
Our
log
file
says
this.
This
counterparty's
log
file
says
this.
We
have
consistency,
we
have
something
about
that.
That
is
going
to
trigger
an
event.
A
That's
going
to
go,
you
know,
and
we
want
another
party
to
do
something
as
a
result
of
that
log
file
state.
You
know.
A
E
I'm
happy
to
give
you
a
couple
examples:
if
you're
again,
so
we
have
with
open
telemetry
a
new
concept
called
tracing.
Have
you
heard
of
that
at
all
that
changed
a
little
bit
of
my
view
into
into
this
type
of
systems?
E
So
traces
are
very
simple
to
just
add
an
id
to
to
a
message
right
and
it
can
be
any
message
it
could
be
http.
It
can
be
anything
else,
but
the
interesting
part
of
it
is
that
you
start
chaining
those
ids,
so
you
can
actually
say
this
trace
has
multiple
spans.
It
went
to
five
different
systems
and
you
can
see
the
propagation
of
the
traces
and,
what's
really
interesting,
is
that
let's
say
you
have
microservices
with
kubernetes.
All
of
a
sudden.
E
You
can
find
out
that
your
database
is
a
hotspot,
because
there
are
three
different
http
endpoints
that
are
hammering
it
all
the
time
you
should
have
a
cache
in
the
middle,
etc,
etc.
Great
for
your
own
devs
great
for
your
own
apps.
Now,
let's
make
this
more
general
you're
working
with
a
partner
and
they
make
those
traces
also
available
to
you.
There's
a
stream
of
data
that
is
coming
from
that
partner,
who
you
know
from
a
commercial
agreement.
E
You
barely
have
any
idea
how
their
ops
are
actually
working,
but
you're
getting
trace
data
from
them
and
that
trace
data
contains
quite
a
bit
of
confidential
information.
Some
of
it
may
be
actually
edited
out,
but
you
can
see
that
it's
been
signed
by
them
and
that
there's
a
baseline
record
that
shows
that
this
trace
has
not
been
manipulated
and
not
lying
to
you
right
and
that
baseline
ledger
is
helpful
because
you
can
always
go
back
and
say:
yes,
we
are
operating
on
their
set
of
rules
and
you
can
even
go
toward
that
for
billing.
E
A
Japan,
that's
a
great
example.
It
also
it
struck
me.
I
mean
andreas
and
I
are
working
on
treetrunk.io
treetrunk.io
shameless
plug
yeah.
With
with
tree
trunk.
We
have,
I
just
counted
the
other
days,
it's
like
a
dozen
and
a
half
like
almost
two
dozen
services
that
we
are
knitting
together.
I
mean
I
remember
flywheel
when
I
ran
that
company
we
had
14
different
web
services
running
and
I.
A
A
a
guy,
john
john
sheehan
sheehy,
who
was
really,
and
he
had
a,
I
don't
think,
the
company's
running
anymore,
but
he
was
really
into
you
know.
Web
services
as
distributed
systems
and
and
how
we
have
to
be
able
to
you
know,
have
a
greater
insight
into
the
state
and
and
healthiness
of
our
web
services
without
being
inside
those
web
services.
Because
they're,
not
our
company,
you
know,
but
more
than
just
you
know,
am
I
getting
a
ping
off
of
them
right.
You
know
so.
A
C
A
Need
to
be
able
to
know
that
stuff,
but
I
shouldn't
know
that
stuff
right.
So
I
think
that
that's
an
interesting
case
where
you
know
where
could
you
know
stuff
that
splunk
is
generating
lead
to
better
coordination
with
companies
that
are
using
each
other's
web
services
without
exposing
internals
that
they
shouldn't
be
exposing
to
each
other
man?
I've
actually
not
had
a
serious
thought
about
that
until
now,
so
interesting.
E
Yeah
we,
I
actually
felt
the
rfc
with
fabric
old
flame
of
yours,
to
enable
distributed
tracing
between
all
the
participants,
and
this
is
also
something
that
we've
I've
been
working
on
with
the
basic
community
suggested.
The
the
json
rpc
endpoint
right
now
is
able
to
get
all
the
traces
working.
So
you
have
basically
that
you're
able
to
report
which
method
you're
calling
right-
that's
part
of
their
traces.
D
E
A
D
D
Yeah,
so
so
I
I
I
wanted
to
quickly
so
before
I
before.
I
would
like
ask
a
question,
make
a
comment
I
wanted
to
like
give
a
special
shout
out
in
kudos
to
antoine
for
actually
going
through
the
biggest
one
of
the
three
baseline
protocol
standards
documents.
You
still
have
two
to
go.
My
friend,
you
still
have
two
to
go.
D
Okay,
yeah
has
been
it
has
been,
has
been
really
helpful.
I'm
so
sorry
that
I
have
not
like
responded.
It's
like
it,
but
it
has
been
a
bit
bit
crazy,
but
I
I
will
I
will
get
to
it
in
time
and
and
and
we
can,
it
has
been
extremely
helpful
and
we'll
we'll
it
will
make
it
significantly
better
because
we'll
add
a
lot
of
more
explanatory
text
that
is
like
is,
is,
is
sort
of
like
assumed
and
is
not
explicit.
So
that's
going
to
be
added
explicitly.
C
D
D
I
think
that
will
make
it
make
it
much
more
we'll
we'll
make
it
such
that
john
reads
has
to
read
more
text
when
he,
when
he
does
does
his
does
his
audio
book
of
the
of
the
of
the
baseline
protocol
and
it
will
it
will
I'm
sure
it
will
make
it
much
more
understandable,
especially
such
that
you
know
it's
like
it's
like
keith
and
josh
and
mark
don't
have
to
scratch
their
head
all
the
all
the
time
because
they're
like
going
what
the
was
he
thinking
about-
hey
family,
oh
please
so,
but
my
my
the
the
actual
thing
so
after
this
this
those
kudos.
D
So
it's
like
it's
like
talking
about
tracing
if
you
look
at
dipcom
right
did
come
did
come
to
come
messaging.
That
actually
has
that
has
that
in
it
and
because
you're
using
you're
using
signatures
and
everything
you
have
that
built
in
so
for
asynchronous
tracing,
especially
privacy,
preserving
it
is
it
it's
it's
it's
completely!
It's!
It's
it's
completely
built
in
and
now
I'm
throwing
in
a
plug
for
for
for.
C
D
Integrated
trust
network
which
we,
which
is
going
to
be
launched
sometime
this
year,
probably
around
the
middle
of
the
year
as
it
is
a
federated
ca,
using
divs,
nbc's
and
and
and
so
forth.
It
is
actually.
D
It's
like
it's
like
it's
like
splunk,
hey,
if
you
guys
want
to
want
to
I
mean
you're
splunk
is
a
is
a
member
of
meth
right
memphis
is
is,
is
part
of
the
itn
and
meth
members
are
part
of
the
itn
integrated
trust
network.
So,
if
splunk
wants
to
run
a
node
on
the
itn
like,
let's
go
right
so
yeah,
it's
like.
E
Yeah,
and,
and
by
the
way
I
mean
this
is
bigger
than
splunk
right.
This
is
our
customers
is
our
community.
This
is
the
people
who
are
trying
to
leverage
open
telemetry
for
good,
and
this
could
be
beneficial
to
the
whole
ecosystem
of
people
trying
to
do
tracing
and
really
doing
better
at
standardizing
collection
of
metrics
and
logs
and
tricks.
This
stuff
has
been
going
on.
It's
it's
in
the
word
of
our
own
open,
telemetry
folks.
It's
been
a
shame
that
this
space
has
been
so
fragmented
for
years,
so
we're
coming
together.
E
Finally
to
make
this
so
much
easier
for
our
customers
to
adopt
one
technology
as
vendor
neutrals
need
to
help
them
get
their
job
done,
and
this
is
the
type
of
integration
that
will
10x
their
investment,
and
so
I'm
I'm
going
to
to
try
to
build
something
around
that.
It
won't
be
a
big
lift
because
you've
done
all
the
work.
If
you
have
did
come
ready.
D
Not
only
do
we
have
ditcom
ready,
we
have
a
digital
twin
ready
that
has
that
has
that
is
standard
compliant
has
it
has
a
w3c?
Universal
wallet
has
an
ed
as
w3c
edv
built
in
has.
Has
we
see
http
apis
as
data
sharing
in
it
and
has
the
the
the
core
services
it
apis
for
itn?
So
you
can,
you
can
create
it
update
dates.
You
know
you
can
you
we
can
issue
membership
credentials
as
identities.
D
You
can.
You
can
do
it,
we
have.
We
have.
We
have
the
universal
resolver.
We
have.
We
have
raw
vocationalist
2020
optimized
with
sparse
merkle
trees.
So
it's
like
it's
all
there.
It's
it's
ready
to
go.
You
want
to.
D
So
so
anyway,
so,
but
it's
it's
it's
it's!
It's
all
ready
to
go
test
nets
up.
If
you
guys,
if
you
guys
want
to
want
to
join
like
ping
me,
it's
like
splunk
is
a
map
member.
So
you
can
you
you're
you're
automatically.
You
can
easily
slide
into
the
club.
E
All
right
so
andreas,
let
me
back
up
please.
I
want
to
explain
this,
for
maybe
people
who
are
less
technical
than
you
and
me,
and
I
usually
don't
do
this
right.
I'm
a
gage
I
like
to
go
into
typical
stuff,
but
I
feel
like
this
isn't
important
enough
that
we
need
to
explain
it
for
the
english
speakers
out
there.
So
you're.
D
E
That
with
your
technology,
we
can
now
create
identities
on
demand
for
anyone
who
wants
to
participate
in
an
ingest
of
any
sort
that
would
allow
us
then
to
authentic
authenticate
and
sign
any
message
say
a
log,
a
metric,
a
trace
coming
from
any
one
of
the
members
of
the
network,
then
then
can
go
to
splunk
and
then
splunk
can
use
this
technology
to
verify
the
authenticity
departments.
The
signature,
the
you
know
that
everything
makes
sense
and,
and
that
you
know
using
baseline,
also
make
sure.
E
D
Yeah
we
just
ran
a.
We
just
ran
a
performance
test
with
the
european
commission,
around
tailpipe
admissions
for
280
million
cars.
D
So
we
can
do
we
can
process
issuance
of
of
of
vehicle
registrations
for
a
million
vehicles
in
about
three
minutes,
and
we
can
we
can.
We
can
do
tail
pipe
admissions
and
then
sending
it
over
to
the
ec
as
vcs
with
verification
and
everything
with
firefox
presentation
in
like
doing
a
million
a
million
of
those
in
about
five
minutes
that
includes
that
includes
itn.
That
includes
the
universal
resolver
lookups.
Everything,
including
did
com.
You
know,
authentication,
did
off
and
everything.
D
C
D
They're
presenting
you,
the
registration,
they're
they're,
the
the
the
fairfabra
presentation
that
is
going
to
the
ec
has
the
vehicle
registration
and
it
has
the
the
and
it
has
the
the
the
tailpipe
emission
credential
in
it,
so
it
in
and
so
the
ec
receives
it
validates
the
the
did.
Does
the
does
the
does
the
does
the
authentication
validates
all
the
vc,
validates
the
verifiable
presentation
and
and
and
and
validates
the
the.
D
C
Okay
and-
and
it
still
manages
to
hide
the
identity
of
the
vehicle
outside
of
the
you
know,
the
authorities
or
whoever
it
is
that
need
to
be
looking
at
it.
D
A
D
No,
no,
no,
no!
No!
No
it's!
This
is
this
is
like
this
is
this
is
now
it's
like.
It's
like
these
are
self-issued
credentials
right.
The
ec
report
is
actually
going
to
come
out.
Hopefully
sometime
q2
they're,
just
writing
it
up
the
the
it's
just.
It's
just
to
prove
out
that
you
can
that
that
you
can
process.
D
You
know
you
can
do
authenticate
full
authentication
round
trips
and
fairf
and
and
and
for
proper
prudential
at
scale.
It
just
happened
to
be
tailpipe
admission.
It's
like.
C
C
D
So
so
it's
like
we've
proven
that
we
can.
We
can
scale
that
up,
but.
A
A
You
reset
the
room
a
bit
and
sonal
if
you
have
other
things,
you'd
like
to
talk
with
bring
up
with
antoine
and
also
I
don't
want
to
miss,
we
we
want
to
talk
about
a
couple
of
things
that
are
happening
in
the
baseline
community.
Please
everyone
go
and
check
out
the
battleship
game
that
has
been
released.
It's
super
super
cool,
battleship
baseline,
is
on
the
website.
Baseline
protocol.org
go
and
check
it
out.
A
It's
a
great
way
to
learn
baselining
in
its
simplest,
simplest
form,
and
then
you
can,
you
know
and
come
and
propose
new
grant
new
new
proposals
for
improving
it,
and
maybe
we
can
give
you
a
grant
for
doing
that.
A
So
you
know
we
said
we
have
a
big
war
chest
right
now
of
grants,
grant
money,
you're,
gonna,
wanna,
you're,
gonna
wanna,
take
advantage
of
that
and
get
creative,
and
then
you
know
propose
a
grant,
just
go
to
baselinedashprotocol.org
and
the
grants
data
repo
is
you
can
propose
a
an
improvement
proposal
and
we
can
turn
into
a
grant
and
yep.
So.
B
So
I
will
have
one
last
question
for
antoine
that
was
on
twitter
and
then
we'll
spend
the
last
minute
or
so
on.
Some
community
updates,
but
somebody
on
twitter
asked
for
baseline
to
be
widely
adopted.
Enterprises
need
low,
slash,
no
code
solutions.
What
tools
are
needed
to
move
past
these
bespoke
implementations
and
allow
enterprises
to
build
baseline
patterns
in
their
systems
internally,
I.e?
How
can
splunk
customers
get
baselined.
E
Yeah
actually
have
a
great
answer
to
this,
because
I
thought
about
it.
I
think
consensus.
F
F
Yeah
I
mean
I
I
mean
just
as
we've
talked
about
how
splunk
is
so
much
of
so
much
of
the
engine
to
data
analytics
strategy
within
many
of
these
enterprise
organizations.
F
There's
a
huge
opportunity
for
us
to
apply
all
the
logs
and
analytics
that
are
transpiring
through
splunk
with
the
various
other
systems
that
have
been
part
of
this
greater
baseline
protocol
conversation.
You
know
whether
that's
things
that
are
transpiring
within
microsoft
dynamics
365,
whether
that's
a
settlement,
that's
happening
through
the
sap
portal
or
platform.
F
Excuse
me,
there's
so
much
opportunity
for
us
to
apply
the
the
benefits
that
customer
environments
get
in
their
leveraging
of
splunk,
which
is
so
so
many
already,
and
to
tie
that
in
with
these
other
systems,
and
so
we've
yeah,
that's
something
that
certainly
has
been
exciting
to
us
and
we're
coming
across
more
customer
environments
that
are
looking
to
tie
these
together.
At
this
juncture,.
A
It
provides
definitely
one
really
the
the
most,
maybe
the
only
one
right
now
that
is
really
going
after
low
code
no
code
and.
F
It
is
our
goal
within
by
q2
to
have
splunk
as
one
of
the
one
of
the
connectors
that
are
right
out
of
the
box
incorporated
into
shuttle.
It
is
one
it
is
one
of
the
key
ones
that
are
on
the
docket
right
now,
we're
very
close
to
find
the
fine
tuning
of
that
to
have
that
relatively
plug
and
play
and
to
be
able
to
configure
those
worksteps
right
out
of
the
box
through
shuttle
with
splunk.
E
Awesome
yeah
yeah
exactly
this
is
the
type
of
things
is
when
baseline
becomes
almost
part
of
your
background.
You're
not
using
provide
you're
using
value
and
baseline
is
the
tricky.
The
mechanism
in
the
back
is
allowing
you
to
go
10x
faster,
to
create
partnerships
and
create
very
intense
collaboration
with
your
partners,
and
you
know
that
that's
what
you
want.
A
You
know,
that's
that's
something
we
should
talk
about
before
we
close
here,
and
so
I
talked
we're
talking
about
it
last
night
or
yesterday.
Actually,
yesterday
morning,
it's
it,
it
strikes
me
that
it's
time
for
the
community-
and
you
know
all
of
us
splunk
ey
consensus,
everybody,
microsoft,
sap
I
have
not
found
and
I'm
I'm
putting
on
an
apb
officially
right
now.
A
I
have
not
found
a
study
that
specifically
carves
out
the
what
is
quite
easily
deduced
billions
and
billions
and
billions
of
dollars
untold
numbers
spent
by
companies
to
do
transformation,
projects
or
improvement
projects,
I.t
projects
across
multiple
parties,
and
if
anybody
has
such
a
study,
let
me
know
I
haven't
seen
it
we're.
Looking
at
gartner,
we
look
at
forest
or
idc
haven't
seen
it.
One
found
one
on
workflow
management,
but
it's
a
lot
of
that's
going
to
be
conflated
with
internal
single
company,
workflow
management.
A
So
you
can't
even
look
at
that
number,
so
we
want
to.
If
we
don't
find
it
we're
going
to
commission,
or
at
least
I
I
intend
to
rally
some
money
around
commissioning
some
original
research.
A
I
want
to
you
know
one
or
more
of
the
majors
pestering
the
majors
to
say:
hey,
you
know,
because
we,
I
think,
there's
a
lot
of
companies
that
need
this
data
now,
not
just
baselining.
I
think
that
you
know
what
richard
kennedy
brown's
doing
is
the
same.
You
know
it's
targeting
the
same
problem:
multi-party
compute,
it
all
comes
down
to
you
know
improving
how
we
interact
and
can
work
together,
and
we
all
know
you
know
ever
since
certainly
covet
intensified
the
need
for
companies
to
work
together.
E
That's
it
right,
john.
I
know
you
want
to
close.
I
know
you
have
a
lot
of
stuff
to
go
ahead
and
I
just
want
to
give
you
a
hint
of
who
you
should
invite
next
after
me,
because
that
person
has
the
answer
of
the
question
just
asked
and
that's
the
answer
to
that
twitter
question:
it's
actually
a
guy
who
works
for
consensus.
His
name
is
marwan
zelig
he's
been
a
consensus
for
four
months
and
he
was
prior
to
that
working
for
odd
systems
which
is
specialized
in
local
zero
code
environments.
E
We
used
to
work
together
long
time
ago.
I
know
he's
made
some
great
strides
in
apec
and
he's
been
very
good
at
really
going
deep
inside
customer
use
cases.
I'd
love
for
him
to
come
on
your
show
and
for
you
to
ask
him
pointy
questions
about
how
he
could
make
his
life
better
as
a
sales
person
at
consensus,
selling
baseline.
B
A
E
Oh
it
is
it's
been
going
on
forever.
Oh
yeah,
I
mean
remember
web
services.
I
used
to
have
like
the
the
wisdol
stuff
by
microsoft.
Back
in
2002,
when
microsoft
sat
down,
everybody
in
the
conference
said
web
services
are
the
path
of
future.
You
may
not
like
xml.
This
is
happening
to
you
now
right
and
everybody
in
the
conference
like
cringing
like
oh,
no,
this
is
terrible,
but
you
know
what
that's
how
financial
systems
will
integrate
now
we
have
a
shot
of
doing
it
all
over
better
and
stateful
and
so
much
more
interesting.
E
So
we
I
was.
I
was
there
for
the
service.
Sorry,
you
know
so
wave
mamwen
was
there
too.
For
that?
It's
it's
our
shot.
We
need
to
get
back
into
where
the
action
is
yeah.
My
best.
A
Friend
at
ibm,
rachel
ryan
has
got
her
her
de
on
on
the
soa
movement
yeah.
D
A
D
C
John,
I
have
you
know,
I
know
I
know
you
know
someone
who's
got
data
on
a
lot
of
transformation
projects,
both
in
terms
of
spending
and
also
in
terms
of
the
overruns
and
failure
rates,
so
I'll
reach
out
to
them
as
well.
You
know,
basically,
the
oxford
mega
projects
out
of
state
business
school
right,
so
I'll
reach
out
to
them
as
well.
A
Okay,
any
last
words
sonal
and
team.
Again
welcome,
keith
and
you'll
have
and
and
mark
it's
gonna
be
really
fun
and
and
by
the
way
everybody
two
things
we
ought
to
add
to
the
show
one.
A
We
should
have
more
more.
You
know,
code
reviews
right
and
maybe
that's
something
that
marking
up
and
and
and
keith
can
can
start
doing,
is
like
saying,
hey.
F
A
Here
we're
playing
with
this
kind
of
code
or
here's,
this
piece
of
the
battleship
game
that
you
might
not
have
known
so
every
every
show
ought
to
have
a
little
segment.
You
know
the
the
code,
don't
lie
segment.
You
know
which
I
won't.
I
won't
play
right
now,
just
because
we're
at
the
end
of
the
meeting
and
and
then
we
ought
to
have
a
little
segment
that
you
know
like
andreas.
A
We
ought
to
call
it
andreas
standards
corner
right
where
we
go
through
like
one,
you
know
one
little
tiny
piece
of
the
standard
each
show-
and
you
know,
and
and
then
and
we'll
do
that-
we'll
finish
that
in
about
10
years.
A
D
A
A
B
I
would
just
like
to
say
that
next
week
will
be
our
march
general
assembly,
where
we'll
have
updates
from
all
the
working
groups
and
we'll
also
start
circulating
a
form
for
any
members
in
the
community
to
send
some
questions
our
way.
I
know
I've
been
getting
a
lot
on
twitter
and
linkedin
just
about
the
status
of
the
standard,
the
standards
of
other
work
going
on
so
we'll
make
that
part
of
our
monthly
general
assemblies
and
quickly
over
to
samrat
to
tell
us
what
will
be
coming
on
the
baseline
show
india.
This
saturday.
C
C
I
think
that's
really
important
for
tomorrow's
discussion
and
and
yeah
on
saturday
we
are
going
to
have
keith,
you
have
all
of
the
gym
gang
once
again
mark
and
and
I
what.
C
Keith
is
that
they're
more
prepared
this
time?
So
so,
let's
hear
it
from
from
you
know:
core
devs
are
reading
it
from
the
front
yeah
back
to
you
soon,.