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A
Hey
everybody,
john
wolford
here
it's
that
time
again
for
the
baseline
show
or
you
know
our
our
fancy
version
of
office
hours
here
at
the
baseline
protocol
community.
That's
baseline,
dash
protocol.org
go
there
to
get
involved,
come
on
in
the
water's
fine
baseline
protocol
baseline
dash
protocol.org.
A
It's
good
to
see
everybody
here.
In
fact,
a
special
welcome
to
summer
kishore.
Who
is
going
to
be
doing
this
doing
this
for
us
oops?
That's
for
us
yeah,
I'm
hearing
myself
guys.
A
We
good
all
right,
we're
gonna,
we're
gonna
be
doing
this
next
week,
I'll
be
off
and
samurai
kishore
is
going
to
run
the
show
we've
never
missed
a
show
in
over
a
year
and
and
and
here's
the
big
announcement
after
next
week,
samurai
will
be
running
a
show
at
the
the
baseline
protocol
office
hours
in
india
on
a
separate
time
zone
friendly
to
india,
so
welcome
samrat.
B
Hey
john,
before
we
go
too
far,
just
it
would
behoove
us
if
we
didn't
remind
viewers
on
youtube
to
smash
the
subscribe
button
and
hit
the
like
button.
That's
right!
Oh
yeah,.
A
C
A
We
tried,
we
tried
a
a
simulcast
to
clubhouse,
but
that
didn't
do
that.
Didn't
work
very
well.
C
C
E
Can
do
we
can
do
tick,
tock
live
as
well,
but
with
your
following
and
with
output
with
your
following
kind
of
your
overall
focus.
I
do
think
twitter
spaces
would
be
a
very
synergistic
pretty.
E
A
Almost
did
a
dummy
spit
right
there,
that's
good,
that's
wow,
all
right,
so
yeah,
samurai,
sorry
about
that.
Let's
go
back
to
let's
go
back
to
the
the
indian
baseline
show,
welcome
I'd
like
to
say
a
few
words.
F
Thank
you,
john
really,
excited
and
and
and
yeah.
I
think
the
first
support
I
need
from
you
guys.
All
of
you
here
is
to
nominate
speakers
hit
me
from
stars.
You
can
pull
the
cards
and
not
just
about
pulling
the
crowd.
It's
also
about
tracking
the
right
talent.
So
so
yeah,
you
know
hit
me
up,
send
me
emails
or
linkedin
anything
which,
which
is
workable.
I
need
speakers.
F
So
it's
going
to
be
it's
going
to
be
7
p.m.
India
time
I
did
a
lot,
I
did
some
asking
around
and
nobody
really
prefers
it
during
the
day.
So
it's
always
good
to
be
doing
it
towards
the
evening
when
people
are
done
with
work
coders
for
coders,
it's
just
the
days
get
just
getting
started
and
I
think
we
want
the
people
who
who
are
those
kind.
I
mean
I
myself.
I
am
that
kind.
F
It's
just
beginning
of
the
day,
so
seven
o'clock
is
something
which
I'm
thinking
and
there's
a
lot
of
in
this
sufficient
overlap
with
also
est
so
that
many
of
you
from
the
western
side
of
the
world
can
also
make
it
to
that
show.
So
that's
the
plan
so
thursday's.
B
G
A
If
we
can
do
it
at
that
time,
yeah,
let's
talk
about
it
and,
let's,
let's
yeah,
let's
get
the
times
worked
out.
We
definitely
want
you
know
it.
It
is
essential.
I
mean
I
I
think,
we've
we've
said
this
several
times.
You
know
you're
getting
to
be
a
thing
when
the
indian
developer
community
starts
cooking
and.
E
A
Starting
to
see
that,
and
it's
important
that
we
are
time
zone
friendly
to
india,
and
so
it's
great
that
you
guys
are
setting
that
up.
You
and
bishwa
shri
day
and
others.
D
A
Yeah,
as
I
said
before,
the
before
we
went
live
that
you
know
there
are
some
pretty
just
was
on
the
phone
this
morning
with
a
really
great
brand.
That
should
be.
I'm
hopeful
will
be
helpful
in
the
matter
yeah
and,
as
you
said,
you
know,
I
think,
one
of
the
things
that
we
as
as
I've,
been
getting
more
and
more
busy
starting
this
new
company
based
on
baseline.
A
And
jack
is,
is
building
his
company
and,
and
you
know
kyle,
you
know
the
the
spirit
is
willing,
but
the
man
is
busy,
and
so
you
know
he's
always
like
I'm
gonna
be
on
the
call.
I'm
gonna
be
I'm
gonna,
be
there
this
week
and
then
you
know
something
gets
pulls
him
off.
That's
a
sign
of
success
for
a
standard
protocol
in
a.
E
A
Source
community,
but
it
also
means
we've
got
to
shift
gears
right.
The
new
blood's
got
to
come
in
and
we've
got
to
get
a
lot
more
rigorous.
So,
as
I
think
some
some
folks
have
heard
already
we're
hiring
a
new
project
manager
that
will
be
dedicated
baseline
in
our
company
to.
F
A
Getting
us
to
v1,
you
know,
just
like
we
have
a
new
project
manager
internally
to
our
company,
that's
managing
the
jira
and
doing
all
that
stuff.
We're
gonna
we're
gonna
kick
in
for
that
and
the
one
of
the
things
that
I
want
them
to
do
is
I
mean
I
I've
gotten
to
the
point
where
I
have.
I
barely
announced
the
show
right
like
people
show
up,
because
they
they
do
it
every
week
and
god
bless
you
all
out
there.
But
you
know
if
we
just
were
it
wasn't
we're
announcing
regularly?
A
What's
gonna
happen,
what
the
agenda
is
who's
coming
and-
and
I
think
one
of
the
things
we've
lost
if
I'm,
if
I'm,
if
I'm
honest,
is
this-
was
about
answering
people's
technical
questions
and
and
helping
them
get
their
systems
baselining
and
and
getting,
and
also
contributing
to
community
and
without
prep
and
without
an
agenda
and
without
you
know
specific
things
that
we're
teaching
people
on
the
show
it's
fun,
but
it's
and
it's
great,
but
I
think
we
can
lift
the
game.
A
B
We
have
a
lot
of
like
off,
not
offline,
but
you
know,
meetings
with
big
companies
that
are
baselining,
don't
necessarily
want
to
come
out
and
talk
specifically
about
what
they're
doing
yeah
really
for
them
or
what
have
you.
But
if
we
can
identify,
maybe
sub-topics
or
little
things
in
those
meetings
that
would
be
beneficial
to
the
greater
community
and
then
urge
them
to
come
and
talk
specifically
about
that.
You
know:
yeah
yeah,.
F
F
So
I
think
that's
very
important
for
for
all
of
us
and
anybody
jumping
on
the
bus
now
so
so
yeah.
Let's
do
that
and
you
know
ryan
and
I
we
had
a
very
interesting
chat
before
so
so
yeah
a
lot
a
lot
of
stuff.
Looking
up
and
yeah,
I
I
had
a
designer
we've
got
some
fantastic
announcements
for
baseline
coming
to
india.
C
Well
well,
someone
is
is
doing
that
quick
question.
I
I
can
understand
that.
Maybe
companies
don't
want
to
be
named
by
name,
but
what,
even,
though,
that
I
completely
don't
want
it's
not.
C
It's
it's
like
it's
like.
There
is
no
competitive
disadvantage
for
for
for
for
saying,
oh
we're
exploring
baseline,
it's
like.
Oh,
we
are
exploring
the
internet,
it's
like
or
or
whatever
you
know.
It's
like
it's
that
that
is
something
that
is
is
is
there.
There
is
no
trade
secret.
There
are
no
competitive
advantages
compared
to
others,
because
it
takes
two
to
tango
right.
So.
A
That's
true,
but
but
I'll
tell
you
you
know
I
was
on
the
phone
with
a
vp
of
pretty
notable
brand
and,
and
you
know
we,
you
know-
we've
been
hanging
out
and
you
know
I
I
really
like
this
guy
and
we're
like
hey.
You
know
you,
why
don't
you
come
on
the
show
and
he's
like
look?
A
You
know
I've
I've
been
tagged
before
by
you
know
by
going
because
they're
big
enough
brand
that
you
know
if
they,
if
they
come
out
with
any
kind
of
indication
that
they're
going
in
a
direction
before
they're
ready
to
go
all
in
you
know,
he's
like
you
know,
I've
I've
suffered
the
consequences
of
that
before
so
yeah.
That's
that's!
That's
the
thinking.
A
F
F
A
Yeah
so
that
yeah,
I
think,
that's
that's
kind
of
the
the
tricky
bit
there,
but
I
think
it's
getting
better
and
as
we
get
more
and
more
into
the
mainstream,
which
we
are
because
why
wouldn't
you
I
mean
baselining
is
a
pretty
mainstream
idea.
A
It
it'll,
you
know,
you'll,
start
to
see
those
those
announcements
for
folks
tuning
in
there
are
some
big
announcements
coming
and
very
frustrating.
We
can't
say
what
they
are
yet,
but
they
are
there.
I
think
jack's
team's
got
some
big
announcements
too.
A
I
know
that
base
ledger's
cooking
up,
I'm
starting
to
get
kind
of
excited
about
base
ledger
so
we'll
see
how
that
goes,
certainly,
probably
not
going
to
be
the
only
way
to
place
blockchain
or
baseline
proofs
on
a
on
an
l2,
but
I
think
it's
first
of
all,
it's
a
good
brand
name.
So
we'll
see
how
that
that
cooks
out
any.
Do
you
want
to
talk
about
that
at
all
jack.
E
Development
currently
in
development,
there's
some
there's
some
things
from
based
on
your
perspective.
That
should
be
announced
here,
I
would
say,
within
the
quarter,
that'll
be
pretty
exciting
for
the
community,
there's
a
number
of
organizations
that
and
customers
that
we
are
marching
down
the
path
of
partnership
with
and
working
more
closely
with,
and
they
are
certainly
warming
up
to
the
warming
up
to
the
idea
of
how
we
can
effectively
leverage
a
base
ledger
in
what
we're
effectively
accomplishing
here.
So
it's
been
a.
E
The
sentiment
has
been
quite
welcoming
because,
because
I
think
for
a
lot
of
people,
some
have
thought
that
it
was
going
to
be
something
that
would
be
quite
different
than
the
way
in
which
we
had
already
intended
to
kind
of
build
up
this
overall
strategy.
But
it's
very
much
in
line
with
kind
of
where
we've
been
going
from
a
provided
staff
perspective
for
some
time
now,
and
so
it's
been,
it's
been
well
received
by
some
of
the
clients
that
were
marching
down
the
path
more
closely
with
at
this
time,.
A
Yeah
I'll
admit,
I
wasn't
sure
what
I
thought
about
it
when
I
first
heard
about
it,
but-
and
I
and
I
still
haven't
seen
it
all
so
I
can't
really
pass
judgment
as
personally
right.
I
I
can
only
speak
for
myself,
but
I'm
starting
to
like
what
I'm
hearing.
I
have
to
I'll
say
that
I'm
you
know
I'm
very
excited
to
see
how
it
all
plays
out.
In
the
end.
E
A
E
Been
anything
in
particular,
that's
been,
it's
been
exciting
or
interest.
That's
kind
of
piqued
your
interest
more
recently,
john
well.
A
I'll
dodge
that
question
by
by
noting
that
sam
would
like
to
talk
so
sam,
would
you
wanna.
G
E
That
is
something
that
I
would
need
to
come
back
to
the
community
on
to
give
an
update
on
where
that
stands
and
when
there
could
be
an
expectation
for
that
to
be
public.
E
A
A
Yeah
we'll
be
we'll,
be
you
know,
keeping
an
eye
on
on
that
I
mean
clearly
we're
gonna
need,
I
think,
what
jack
to
answer
your
question
before
I
think
what
what
we're
seeing
is
this
you
know,
there's
things
that
are
kind
of
fetish,
like
you
know,
buying
a
piece
of
art
with
as
an
nft
the
way
some
people
have
been
doing.
A
I
think
that
that
jumped
the
shark,
maybe
in
record
time,
but
but
things
like
l2s,
are
really
not
a
flash
in
the
pan
idea
and
they're
coming
up
and
now
they're
becoming
they're
maturing
at
a
very
rapid
rate
and
as
I've
said,
I'm
not
going
to
buy
any.
You
know
an
invoice
that
isn't
doesn't
have
a
baseline
proof
that
is
anchored
to
the
ethereum
main
net.
A
That's
my
perspective
on
things,
but
now
I
don't
have
to
have
all
of
those
proofs
loaded
onto
the
actual
ethereum
main
net
to
get
that
to
get
that
security
or
that
that
tamper
resistance
from
the
main
net.
You
know.
So
as
long
as
you
know
things
are
you
know,
so
I
like
what's
happening
with
arbitrarium,
as
you
know,
and
optimism,
and
the
nice
thing
about
baseline
proofs
is
that
we're
not
trying
to
manage
tokens
with
them.
A
They're
just
proofs
on
a
merkle
tree
they're
already
as
private
as
you
need
them
to
be
so
the
l2
doesn't
have
to
do
much
other
than
keep
the
cost
down
in
the
in
the
and
the
through
and
the
throughput
up
and
then
anchor
the
main
net
right.
Exiting
is
not
a
big
deal.
You
don't
have
to
wait
two
weeks
for
stuff.
It's
it's
a
proof.
You
can
read
it
right.
You
know
you,
don't
you're
not
worried
about
getting
your
money
out
of
it
right.
A
So
from
that
perspective
I
think
optimistic
roll-ups
for
the
baseline.
You
know
for
an
l2,
that's
serving
baseline
community
or
multiple
l2s
different.
You
know
I'm
sure
that
base
ledger
won't
be
the
last
thing
out
there
as
long
as
they
can
interrupt
right.
What
I
would
hate
to
see
is
balkanization.
Yet
again
right,
I
don't
want
to
see.
Oh
I've
got
my
workflow
and
you've
got
your
workflow
and
your
workflow
is
anchored
to
this
thing,
and
mine
is
anchored
to
that
thing
and
therefore
we
have
to
do
another.
A
Damn
integration,
that's
the
whole
point
of
baseline.
Is
you
don't
have
to
do
that?
We
need
the
world's
you
know
business
to
business,
workflows
to
be
more
plastic
right
more.
You
know
it's
more
more
slack-like
and
less.
You
know
here,
let's
spend
two
years
getting
a
consortium
up
off
the
ground
kind
of
the
thing.
Yeah.
C
Can
I
can,
I
ask
a
a
very
stupid
question
sure
if
you're
doing
baseline,
why
are
you?
Why
would
you
use?
I
mean
what
what's
the
advantage
of
like
an
optimistic
roll-up
or
ck
roll-up
versus
just
providing
a
content,
addressable
anchor
hash
right
that
points
to
merkle
tree
where
the
leaves
are
the
proofs.
I.
C
So
so
the
the
my
question
is
is
like
it's
like:
it's
like
anything
that
has
to
do
with.
Rollups
is
you're
doing
a
roller,
because
you
want
data
on
chain
right.
You
want
a
proof
on
chain.
You
need
data,
aliveness
right
data,
aliveness,
your
only
end
its
history.
Your
only
need,
if
you
have
a
double,
spend
problem,
if
you
don't
have
a
double
spend
problem,
why
the
f
are
you?
Are
you?
Are
you
even
worrying.
A
About
that,
no,
you
make
a
good
point.
I
would
say
that
there
are
some
double
execute
problems
like
I
don't
want
the
same
invoice
going
to
multiple
different
places
to
get
bought,
but
I
don't
think
that's
exactly
the
same
problem
as
a
double
spend
problem.
In
a
token
that
is.
C
That
is,
that
is,
a
that
is
is,
is,
is
similar,
but
there's
there's
there
again,
you
you,
you
have
you're
you're
talking
about
a
very
pertinent
question,
which
is
pled
pledging
of
collateral
right
to
it
to
to
to
a
token,
so
you
don't
want
to
have
the
same
collateral
pledged
to
two
financing
instruments:
aka
tokens
at
the
same
time,
correct,
which
means
you
need
to
be
able
to
validate.
A
To
be
able
to
use
what
sam's
been
building
right,
sam
stokes
has
been
building
a
really
nice
cool
approach
to
avoiding
yeah
that
double
execute
or
the
you
know,
yeah
that
you
want
you,
you
want
to
make
it
real
hard
for
somebody
to
sell
their
invoice
to
more
than
one
people.
One
person
at
the
time.
C
Well,
would
you
would
you
the
really
key
thing?
Is
it
needs
to
be
public
and
it
needs
to
be?
Everybody
needs
to
put
their
stuff
in
there
right,
otherwise,
otherwise
you
can't
and
it
needs
to
be
small
and
it
needs
to
be
efficient
to
validate
otherwise
you're
you.
You
really
have
a
problem
right.
Imagine
you're!
You!
You
have
your
your!
You
have
at
any
point
in
time
you
have
10
million
100
million
invoices
that
are
that
are
that
are
used
as
collateral
or
orders
right.
C
It's
like
it's
like
you
can't
put
10
or
100
million,
even
proofs
on
unchained,
absolutely
impossible
right,
you're,
you're,
gonna,
kill
everybody.
I
mean
people,
people,
gonna,
throw
rocks
and
and
other
nasty
things
at
you.
A
C
A
Man
don't
give
people
ideas,
we're
on
live
tv
all
right.
All
right
you
made
me
you
made
me,
feel
scared.
Now,
hey
tim
you've
got
a
question
that
you
put
up
there.
Lauren
lauren
gibson
says:
that's
why
I
tune
in
thanks
lauren
tim,
you
wanna,
ask
your
question.
H
Yeah
hi
john
hi,
everyone
hope
you're
doing
well.
I've
been
sort
of
out
of
things
for
a
little
bit,
so
it's
it's
quite
nice
stepping
back
in
after
not
being
surrounded
by
the
language.
It
kind
of
gets
you
out
of
the
rabbit
hole
and
then
sort
of
helps
you
to
take
a
fresh
perspective.
But
one
of
the
things
that
vitalik
often
spoke
about
with
rollups
is.
G
H
They
can
be
used
for
scaling
or
for
privacy,
so
I'm
sort
of
quite
interested
in
how
to
get
one's
head
around
that
and
one
of
the
other
things
that
sort
of
one
of
the
other
things
that
came
out
of
a
few
conversations,
the
other
day,
which
I'd
be
sort
of
interested
in
hearing
some
thoughts
on
regarding
sort
of
the
language
you
used
here,
is
that
you
know
when
you
store
something
on
a
blockchain.
H
In
my
mind,
it's
either
publicly
verifiable
versus
human
readable.
So
something
that
is,
you
know
like
like
a
rollup
is
publicly
verifiable,
but
it's
not
human
readable,
but
the
bitcoin
blockchain
is
human,
readable
and
publicly
verifiable.
I
suppose,
because
it's
but
it's
sort
of
how
does
sort
of
the
baseline
roll-ups
system
sort
of
fit
into
that
sort
of
scaling
versus
privacy
debate
and
like
can
you
unwind,
or
can
you
recreate
the
state's
current
state
from
fees?
H
If
you
download
the
blockchain,
can
you
sort
of
go
back
and
sort
of
view
the
state
at
any
point
in
time,
or
is
it
once
it's
committed?
It's
it's
there
and
it's
publicly
verifiable,
but
it's
never
able
to
be
sort
of
reused
to
recalculate
the
state
at
any
one
point
if
that
makes
sense,
maybe
my
misunderstanding:.
C
A
H
A
Perfect
sense,
yeah,
I
mean
obviously
the
first
the
first
point
about
baselining.
Is
you
don't
you
don't
you
don't
put
anything
on
chain?
That's
gonna,
get
gonna,
give
you
away
right
so
already.
If
that
chain
is
an
l2
and
that
l2
doesn't
have
privacy
protocols
like
say
zkck
rollups,
and
that
sort
of
thing
right
we're
really
going
all
in
you.
H
Nice
yeah-
I'm
it's
probably
a
point
for
talking
about
offline
from
this,
but
I'm
sort
of
london's
opening
up
again
and
we're
starting
to
put
on
some
events.
So
we
get
to
chat
to
someone.
Maybe
who's
really
involved
in
the
baseline
in
london
about
potentially
putting
on
something,
because
I
hope.
C
A
Yeah,
very
cool,
okay,
so
yeah
so
samurai.
Let's
talk
about
like
let's
get
more,
I
think
that
the
indian
community,
the
independent
developer
community,
is
gonna,
be
really
wanting
to
have
practical
how
to
do
stuff
sessions
each
week,
and
I
think
if
we
can,
if
we
can
help
each
other,
do
those.
I
think
that'll
be
a
big
deal
and
we
should
have
those
much
more.
You
know
planned
and
programmed
and
announced
every
week.
F
A
And,
and
for
for
things
like
this,
like,
how
does
an
l2
you
know,
what
do
you
need
to
do?
What
is
the
right
way
to
implement
an
l2
or
baseline
proofs
that
will
be
compliant
for,
and
let
me
let
me
make
a
couple
of
psas
here:
one
is
that
we
will
be
we
are.
We
are
now
officially
into
planning
the
final
planning
for
the
version.
One
production
rollout
of
a
production
version,
one
of
baseline
and
specifically
the
specification.
A
The
standard
is
in
final
development,
as
well
as
the
the
so
that
that's
being
fun.
You
know
the
final
writing
of
the
of
the
specification
for
v1
and
the
the
interfaces,
the
apis,
the
core,
as
we
as
we
say,
the
core
interfaces
for
baseline.
A
A
You
use
the
core
interfaces
and
you
and
you
adhere
to
the
standards
document
and
you
are
baselining,
so
those
are
going
to
be
done
and
we
are
pushing
to
the
version
one
implementations
of
that.
So.
E
E
A
A
We're
gonna
have
we're
gonna,
be
making
some
final
plans
and
get
the
road
map
up
and
and
then
parse
out
the
stories
and
the
tasks
and
and
and
get
writing.
So
it's
gonna
be
a
summer
of
writing
and
a
fall
of
of
getting
getting
a
v1
out.
A
Yeah
and
making
money
hey
sam
has
a
question.
General
l2
question:
can
zk
roll
ups
optimistic
roles,
be
used
to
bundle
new
contract
deployment
transactions
and
targeting
of
many
different
smart
contracts,
or
are
they
only
useful
for
combining
small
atomic
state
updates
targeting
the
same
contract
onto
a
single,
larger
state
update,
sami?
You
want
to
say
more
about
that.
I
know
lucas
is
on.
G
Yeah,
I
guess
I
I've
seen
zk
rollups
used,
for
example,
combining
many
eth
transfer
transactions
into
one
bundle.
So,
instead
of
instead
of
updating
balances
on
the
ethereum
network,
atomically
like
one
at
a
time,
updating
account
balances,
just
bundling
them
all
up
together
and
then
making
one
one
large
state
update.
So
I
was
wondering:
could
you
apply
zk,
roll-ups
or
optimistic
roll-ups
to
if
I
wanted
to
deploy
a
bunch
of
small
smart
contracts?
A
So
so
give
a
use
like
what?
What
would
you
want
to
do.
G
H
So
some
you
mean
doing
taking
transactions
from,
for
example,
several
different
tokens
issued
on
ethereum
and
rolling
them
all
up
in,
as
opposed
to
just
doing
it.
For
one
token,.
G
H
So
do
you
mean
like
taking
all
the
transactions
done
on
your
uni,
swap
for
one
token,
as
opposed
to
yeah
stretching
my
knife
and
doing
bundling
one
inch
transactions
and
uni
swap
tokens
at
the
same
time,
or
do
you
have
to
do
it
just
for
you
squat?
Is
that
what
you're
saying.
D
I'm
not
I'm
not
entirely
sure
some.
I
would
have
to
look
it
up,
but
my
first
instinct,
based
on
what
I
know
is
that
they
have
to
share.
They
have
to
have
something
in
common
meaning.
You
can
update
a
bunch
of
your
c20
tokens
that
belong
to
the
same
contract.
At
the
same
time,
you
can
you
can
update
a
bunch
of
ethereum.
D
Ethereum
holdings
for
a
bunch
of
the
same
accounts,
but
I'm
not
sure
that
you
can
deploy
several
different
contracts.
At
the
same
time,
it
seems
to
to
to
violate
the
principle
of
ck
roll
ups.
But
that
being
said,
I'm
not
entirely
sure.
I
will
look
it
up
and
I
will
get
back
to
you.
D
Okay,
same
type,
yeah,
but
again
do
let
me
let
me
double
check
that
it.
It
does
make
sense
in
my
head
as
a
use
case.
Some.
I
think
that
would
be
gonna
be
really
cool.
Actually,
I'm
not
sure
it
can
be
done
with
ck
roll-ups.
I'm
sure
there's
a
way
of
doing
it,
though,.
A
Well,
in
my
experience,
some
of
the
coolest
stuff
we've
ever
come
up
with
is
resulted
from
sam
and
lucas
banging
their
heads
together
on
something
so
yeah.
A
Continue
that
conversation
offline,
yeah,
yeah,
hey
clemens,
it's
good
to
see
you
there
been
a
while,
since
I've
talked
to
you
hope,
paul
as
well.
The
I
think
yeah,
but
once
again
I
mean
I
think,
andreas
made
an
interesting
point
which
is
yeah.
Why
do
you
need
to
zk
roll
yeah
as
a
product
person?
I
know
what
my
requirement
is
my
requirement
is,
I
want
supremely
good
tamper
resistance
and
I
don't
and
I'm
not
going
to
trust
a
poa
for
that
right
or
not
not.
You
know
not
a
small.
A
A
Or
you
know
it
can
be
nullified,
but
you
know
it's
not.
There's
no
shenanigans
on
the
tampa
resistance
right,
my
privacy
resistance,
I'm
going
to
use
traditional
systems
of
record
for
right.
My
privacy
is
that
I'm
not
giving
out
any
data.
The
data
stays
in
my
database,
and-
and
so
you
know,
I
don't
have
a
privacy
problem
on
the
public
blockchain
when
it
comes
to
baselining,
because
it's
already
private,
all
I'm
putting
is
a
bunch
of
nonsense
proofs
on
something
all
right.
A
A
Principle
all
right:
what
was
this
mark?
What
was
the
south
park
reference.
C
It's
just
that
clint
went
in
there
and
it's
like
hey.
It's
simple
roll.
Your
own
chain
list,
your
token
step,
three
profit.
We
just
don't
know
what
step
three
is
yeah.
A
F
A
Indeed,
indeed,
yeah
sometimes
I
I
I
see
yeah
business
plans
or
token
designs
or
white
papers
and
yeah.
I
think
they're,
based
on
predicated
on
yeah.
The
basic
economic
engine
is
the
assumption
that
coin
goes
up
and
and
if
it,
if
it
doesn't
go
up,
the
whole
economics
of
the
system
would
just
fall
apart.
A
Okay,
so
and
at
step
step
three
would
be
spent
a
lot
of
money
and
technical
resources
maintaining
a
protocol
instead
of
building
applications.
Nice,
I
miss
you,
man,
I
haven't
talked
to
you
in
a
while.
A
A
So
really
things
are
going
to
start
to
really
accelerate
now
and
they
already
are
and
yeah.
I
think
that's
that's
it's
kind
of
a
slow
news
week,
given
that
we've
got
all
this
news
cooking
that
isn't
ready
to
be
announced.
But
here
we
are
every
week.
A
Anybody
like
to
give
any
last
words
sam,
you
lucas,
you
have
any
anything
you
want
do
people
to
know
about
in
terms
of
you
know
what
what's
high
on
the
list
of
maintainers
issues
or
anything
like
that
or
you
wanna
wait
for
the
coming
weeks.
For
that.
D
A
Okay,
I
think
that's
that's
not
a
problem,
no
worries
at
all
yeah.
I
think
I
think
that's
it.
So
it's
good
to
see
everybody
we'll
take
you
out
on
my
favorite,
music
and
and
we'll
we'll
see
everybody
real
soon
I'll
be
off
next
week,
as
I
said,
and
samurai
will
be
running
the
show
and
and
and
stay
tuned
for
announcements
about
the
india
time
zone
office
hours
and
with
that
yeah.