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We invite industry leaders from across the world to talk about data sharing trends, multi-party workflows, and everything Baseline Protocol!
A
B
B
Was
somebody
saying
something:
okay,
I
thought
there
was
a
feedback,
Okay
cool,
so
on
today's
show
we
have
a
very
special
announcement
to
make,
which
is
about
the
upcoming
technical
steering
committee.
Elections
for
the
Baseline
protocol
very
exciting
times
are
indeed
and
2022
has
been
very
inventful
for
the
protocol.
We
grew
by
community
at
least
two
times
we
have
massively.
B
You
know
we
had
a
very
clear
road
map.
Some
of
the
work
has
been
already
completed
and
presented.
Some
of
the
work
is
out
in
the
open
for
companies
to
pit
for
and
make
some
dollars,
and
there
are
you
know
there
are
tons
of
exciting
announcements
and
Outreach
initiatives
that
we
participate
in
almost
every
week
now.
B
B
So
with
that,
I
would
like
to
invite
Claudia
here
to
from
Oasis
to
announce
the
announce,
the
elections
and
the
procedures
which
will
follow.
Following
that,
we
will
move
on
to
our
guest,
our
today's
guest,
which
is
srishti
from
settlement,
and
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
various
avenues
for
Enterprise
adoption
of
blockchain
and
explore.
If,
if
you
know,
Baseline
could
be
taken
to
multiple
places
with
with
settlements,
work
that
you're
already
doing.
Okay,
so
Claudia
over
to
you.
C
Hi,
everyone
I'll
make
it
short
and
hopefully
sweet
I
work
for
Oasis,
open
and
I'm
the
open
projects
program
manager.
For
those
who
don't
know
me
and
that's
why
I'm
here
to
announce
that
we're
opening
the
call
for
nominations
for
the
2022-2023
technical
steering
committee
for
the
Baseline
Community?
As
a
member
of
the
steering
committee,
you
would
be
able
to
lead
the
work,
the
technical
Direction
and
work
on
the
roadmap
for
the
Baseline
community
and
and
recommend
finished
work
to
the
project
governing
board
of
the
EA
Community
projects.
C
The
Baseline
Community
is
part
of
that
larger,
open
project.
I,
don't
want
to
bore
you
with
too
many
details.
Our
timeline
is
as
follows:
we
have
a
two-week
nomination
period,
four
candidates
for
the
technical
steering
committee.
There
is
a
form
on
the
OSS
open
website
I
will
we
will
send
an
email
to
the
Baseline
Community
mailing
list?
There's
a
couple
of
them.
One
is
the
main
Baseline
Community
mailing
lists.
We
will
post
the
link
for
the
form
and
the
Baseline
Community
slack
Channel
as
well.
C
So
if
you
want
to
nominate
yourself-
or
if
you
know
a
person
who
should
be
on
the
technical
steering
committee,
you
can
nominate
that
this
person
as
well.
You
need
to
ask
them
before
if
they
want
that.
Obviously,
so
the
nomination
form
will
be
open
until
the
14th
of
October.
C
So
that's
we're
starting
today,
that's
two
weeks
from
today
and
then
there
will
be
a
opportunity
to
meet
the
candidates
on
the
Baseline
show,
on
the
19th
of
October,
hopefully,
and
from
the
20th
of
October
to
the
3rd
of
November
will
be
a
two-week
election
period.
People
who
have
committed
to
various
of
the
Baseline
repositories
in
the
past
six
months
will
be
eligible
voters
on
this
no
elect
for
this
election.
C
All
of
the
details
are
published
on
the
Baseline
governance
site
and
I
will
also
put
all
these
details
in
the
emails
to
the
community
mailing
list
and
the
channel.
If
you
have
any
questions
you
can
reach
me
on
the
Baseline
slack,
my
name
is
Claudia
or
you
can
email
me
on
the
op
admin
op
admin
at
oasisopen.org
email.
If
you
have
any
questions
about
this
process,
yeah
I
think
that's.
It
for
me
for
now,
if
or
unless
any
of
you
has
anything
to
add
or
to
ask
at
this
point.
D
One
question
is:
how
long
do
people
have
to
submit
a
PR
that
gets
merged
and
become
an
eligible
voter?
Can
they
do
that
up
until
voting
starts
during
voting.
C
B
So
I'm
sure
a
lot
of
people
would
wake
up
and
comment
if
you've
not
committed
yet
to
the
Baseline
repository
I'm,
going
to
pay
some
links
on
the
chat,
as
well
as
on
the
description
of
the
video,
so
that
you're
all
able
to
access
it
and.
D
B
Know,
of
course
we
keep
posting
it
on
LinkedIn
and
the
slack
group
as
well
so
please
do
commit
become
a
legible
voter.
Have
a
voice
in
in
the
in
the
Baseline
ecosystem
by
becoming
part
of
the
technical
Sterling
committee
give
shape
to
an
upcoming
standard.
It's
it's.
It's
intellectual
property
work.
It
is
amazing.
It
will
give
you
lots
of
benefits
on
your
professional
as
well
as
personal
life.
Personal
satisfaction,
fulfillment
and
sense
of
contribution
to
the
society.
Do
that.
B
Okay,
I
I
can
definitely
talk
a
little
about
my
experience
of
being
involved
with
Baseline
over
two
years.
Now
there
are
tons
of
ogs
here
in
the
in
on
the
call
itself.
Of
course,
Andreas
has
been
since
the
beginning.
You
know
supporting
creating
the
standard
and
successfully
submitting
it
for
ratification.
Mark
has
been
around
almost
about
the
same
time
when
I
also
came
in
and
and
yes
sonar
came
in
to
do
things
in
order.
B
There
was
a
lot
of
chaos
before
Circle
was
here
so
yeah
I've
been
I've,
been
very
thankful
and
grateful
this.
This
whole
team
has
come
together
really
well
and
we've
all
you
know,
taken
up
our
our
respective
positions
and
sort
of
played
our
roles
to
bring
Baseline
so
far,
and
then
came
the
GM
gang
Mark,
Keith
and
yoab
as
they
had
started.
They
had
started
as
individual
contributors,
who
are
now
the
leaders
of
something
called
as
Baseline
Labs
within
consensus,
interesting
stuff
right.
B
So
that's
a
clear
story
that
we
see
you
know
of
people
making
careers
or
potentially
making
careers
out
of
it.
There
are
also
companies.
There
are
contributors
and
sponsors
which
have
joined
Baseline
over
these
two
and
a
half
years
of
existence,
and
then
these
sponsors
have
actually
drawn
value
out
of
the
out
of
the
contribution
they've
renewed
their
their
their
commitment
to
Baseline.
There
are
also
there
are
also
companies
who
found
business
so
they've
made
real
dollars
doing
Baseline
work,
and
then
there
are
individuals,
who've
made
money
in
terms
of
Grants.
B
There
was
also
a
program
which
we
ran
called
blips,
it's
still
running,
which
is
Baseline
Improvement
proposals,
so
you
can
actually
come
and
start
contributing
anytime.
You
would
like
you
can
propose
improvements
to
the
standard
which
is
submitted
or
improved.
You
know
actually
improvements
to
anything
that
we
do.
The
grants
can
be
of
any
nature.
We
can
be
doing
Outreach
effect.
We
can
be
doing
Outreach
initiatives.
We're
going
to
be
doing.
B
You
know
you
can
be
doing
code
devs
work.
You
can
also
be
working
on
Research,
so
we
are
actually
investing
a
lot
of
effort,
variably
led
by
Mark
rimsa,
so
where
we
are
we're
putting
together
a
lot
of
research
so
that
there's
adoption
in
in
the
industry
tree-
and
you
know
people
have
a
basis
of
making
a
business
case.
We
are
also
making
a
big
investment
in
an
IDC
report,
so
IDC
has
been
brought
on
board
and
there
will
be
conducting
a
research
for
us.
B
We
are,
can
I
reveal
the
number
of
what
yeah
I
mean
it's
it's
it's
it's
it's
six
figures
interesting
stuff
happening
here.
So
so
we
are
so
so
once
that
report
comes
out,
there's
going
to
be,
you
know,
tons
of
webinars
tons
of
infographics,
which
will
also
be
floated
around.
That
will
all
give
a
lot
of
ammunition
to
companies
to
start
adopting,
Baseline
see
the
value
of
multi-party
coordination
using
gkps.
D
For
the
IDC
report,
we
are
still
looking
for
sponsors,
so
we
are
in
our
Outreach
phase.
Still,
we
have
not
started
the
study,
but
we
do
have
our
general
scope
planned
out
and
we
have
members
within
our
Outreach
work
group
contacting
organizations
in
the
space
who
have
been
watching
Baseline
contributing
or
have
relevant
focuses
on
multi-party
coordination.
B
Please
do
bear
in
mind.
You
can
also
nominate
others.
You
can
also
connect
us
to
others.
If
you
cannot
participate
or
or
sponsor,
you
can
become
a
participant
on
the
survey
so
they're
going
to
be
at
least
over
over
six
to
eight
hundred
companies.
We
would
like
to
reach
out
to
correspondence
we
would
like
to
reach
out
to
for
for
the
service.
B
Okay,
so
that's
on
the
IDC
report
and
the
exciting
work
that
we
do
in
the
technical
selling
committee,
the
the
more
important
one
which
is
which
is
coming.
You
know
the
planning
for
the
next
year.
That's
that's,
that's
very,
very
critical
and
it
is
coming
in
the
maybe
in
the
next
couple
of
years,
a
couple
of
months.
Okay,
so
with
that
I
would
like
to
invite
our
Our
Guest.
Today
we
have
srishti.
Srishti
is
currently
in
New
Delhi,
but
she
is
a
pretty
Global
person.
B
I
she's,
a
friend
from
the
industry.
We've
been
chatting
since
a
long
time
on
various
things
blockchain,
she
leads
the
she
co-leads.
The
India
chapter
for
hyperledger
she's
also
very
recently
picked
up
the
position
of
the
the
the
kosher
co-chair
of
the
Apec
boxing
committee
region.
E
B
I'm,
sorry,
you
have
so
many
you're
doing
so
many
things,
I
get
I,
get
confused
each
time,
I'm.
So
sorry,
but
you
know
this
is
actually
exemplary.
You
know
how
you
manage
how
you
manage
doing
open
source
work.
Your
present
work
with
settlement.
You
know
you're,
our
director
of
sales,
you're
handling
three
regions.
If
I'm
not
wrong.
E
B
Why
yeah
half
of
the
world?
Okay,
so
so
you're
doing
that
and
then
you're
also
you're.
Also,
you
know
you
publish
so
many
papers,
you
publish
research,
you
are
also
giving
so
many
talks
and
you're.
Also
a
working
mom
I
mean
how
do
you?
How
do
you?
How
do
you
manage
doing
so?
Many
things
especially
you
know
the
open
source
work
for
which
there
is
no
immediate
and
Center.
E
So
I
think
it
comes
more
from
Fashions.
First
of
all,
thank
you
for
inviting
me
to
this
session.
I
think
this
has
been
long
due.
We've
been
chatting
for
a
while
and
on
various
topics
like
you
mentioned,
and,
and
it's
been
like
over
seven
eight
months
and
I've,
seen
the
tremendous
work
that
you've
been
doing
with
Baseline
protocol,
so
yeah
and
and
then,
of
course,
to
your
question,
is
I.
E
Think
it's
more
from
the
passion
actually
samrat,
because
I
started
my
journey
in
2020,
who's
working
more
in
the
real
estate
sector
and
and
I
was
more
in
the
technology
side,
where
I
was
helping
my
clients
on
the
solution,
engineering-
and
this
was
one
of
the
technology
which
you
know
I
I
run
through,
and
it
really
got
my
interest
so
much
so
that
I
got.
You
know,
moved
full
time
into
this
and
and
then
of
course,
I
I
started
with,
of
course,
settlement
starting
its
India
presence.
E
So
one
was
one
of
the
early
founding
members
with
settlement
along
with
our
CEO
and
but
yes,
I
think
the
engagement
is
more
from
the
passion
which
I'm
having
and
and
how
it's
evolving.
The
and
and
more
so
that
you
know,
there's
so
much,
there's
so
much
question
around
the
technology,
so
much
objections
actually
about
the
potential
of
the
impact
to
business
models
or
impact
to
customers.
But
it's
so
in-depth
like
for
me.
E
You
know
getting
into
more
from
the
protocol
angle
how
the
player
ones
or
layer
tools
have
been
designed
and
how
the
Cross
communications
can
happen,
something
something
like
what
we're
working
in
Baseline
is
multiple
multi-party
coordination
and
then
zkbs-
and
this
is
so
much
amazing
work
happening
and
I-
think
it's
the
responsibility
of
the
industry
peers
to
contribute,
especially
when
this
technology
is
at
a
stage
where
it's
moving
towards
mature
d.
I
I
see
that
another
five
to
six
years.
E
We
would
be
one
of
the
chosen
technology
and
not
evangelizing
for
Solutions
enough.
B
E
So
you're,
like
you,
know
the
same
thing,
I
think
our
Founders
like
Matthew
and
Roderick.
They
they
were
history
and
they
realized
that
the
Enterprises
are
actually
facing
a
lot
of
trouble
in
adopting
the
technology,
because
it's
it's
a
very
complex
technology,
where
even
putting
a
simple
application
in
place
requires
multiple
modules,
multiple
interactions
and
querying
and
and
application
which
would
Implement
a
business
logic
would
mean
a
lot
of
cost
and
and
huge
timelines.
And,
as
we
know
that
you
know,
the
impact
in
terms
of
Roi
was
not
certain.
E
So
so
that's
how
we
started
settlement
as
a
low
code,
low
code
platform,
where
essentially,
we
are
solving
the
problem
for
Enterprises
to
deliver
the
applications
across
multi-chains
in
the
shortest
period
of
time
and
and
that
two
Enterprise
grade
applications.
So
the
platform
is
SOC
type,
1
compliant.
E
So
so
yeah,
that's
that's
what
we're
doing
and
we
are
you
know
wanting
to
work
with
Enterprises
as
well
as
public
sectors,
positioning
ourselves
more
of
like
the
AWS
of
clouds,
so
be
the
middleware
where
people
can
come
on
to
our
platform
and
build
various
applications,
irrespective
of
the
sector,
irrespective
of
the
chain
So.
Currently
we're
supporting
eight
protocols,
including
permission
networks
as
well
as
public
networks.
So
so
that's
what
that's,
what
we're
doing,
essentially
with
with
settlement
and
how
we
are
engaging
with
different
customers.
E
A
Could
you
could
you
explain
to
our
to
our
listeners
and
viewers
how
you're
different
from
Bridges
and
how?
How
that
how
you're
you're
managing
one
one
question
that
I
definitely
have
is
how
how
you're
managing
your
your,
your
liquidity
positions,
because
that's
that's
critical
and
I
presume
you're,
not
trustless
right!
Your
your!
Your,
your,
your
your
interop
network
is,
is
fully
permissioned.
E
Okay,
so
I'll
I'll
take
it
one
by
one.
First,
we
are
an
application
provider
like
in
an
implementation
service
provider.
When
you
talk
about
Bridges,
that's
something
which
we
can
essentially
do,
because
when
you
talk
about
bridges
or
interoperability,
it
means
more
of
an
interaction
between
two
networks.
So
we
are
not
a
network
layer.
As
such,
we
are
in
middleware,
which
is
going
to
leverage
protocols
bit
underneath
them,
so
it
can
be
ethereum,
it
can
be
binary
and
smart
chain.
E
It
can
be
polygon,
it
can
be
based
on
hyperledger,
it
can
be
called
any
of
those
so
and
if
you
want
to
build
an
application,
so
let
me
give
you
an
example
of
a
recent
work.
We
have
done
with
the
Central
Bank
of
India
right,
so
what
they
require
was
an
interoperable
Network
between
two
Banks,
where
essentially,
an
issuance
of
letter
of
credit
is
being
done.
E
So
we
have
developed
the
application
on
our
platform
and
we
have
also
ensured
the
interoperability
between
the
two
networks
enforcing
the
business
logic
involved,
which
is
the
issuance
of
LC
right.
So
there
is
an
advising
Bank.
There
is
an
issuing
bank
and
there
is
a
negotiating
back.
So
that's
the
first
part
of
your
question
when
you
come
to
the
second
talk.
When
you
talk
about
the
liquidity.
E
Liquidity
happens
more
in
protocols
right
when
you
have
your
tokens
and
when
you
maybe
have
a
CDP
in
case
like
you,
some
someone
like
me
go
down
or
in
anyone
who's
who
has
a
defy
app.
We
are
an
application,
Builder
So
when
you
say
when
you
come
to
us,
and
you
say
that
okay
today,
I
want
to
build
a
text
and
I
want
to
start
with
reading
multiple
tokens,
so
not
only
usdc
usdds.
E
So
then
we
will
help
you
build
that
we
will
build
the
application
for
you
and
also
ensure
the
liquidity,
so
liquidity
will
be
insured
using
liquidity
pairs
against
their
smart
contract
logic.
So
that's
all
programming,
so
we
will
do
that
for
you
and
you
can
you
make
it
easy,
because
we
have
certain
tools
and
service
offerings
as
a
part
of
the
platform
which
is
going
to
simplify
the
workflows,
whether
it's
hosting
of
nodes,
whether
it's
writing
of
the
smart
contracts,
whether
it's
integration
with
external
applications
like
crms
or
auric
goals?
So
we
will
simplify
that.
A
No
I,
you
know
it's
like
it's
like
when
you
say
settlement
and
you
say
interoperability.
You
know
you're
you're,
you
know
I
immediately
go
to
Bridges
right
I
mean
that's,
that's
that's
a
natural!
It's
like
if
you're,
if
you're,
if
you're,
if
you're,
basically
a
messaging
layer
between
between
between
chains,
yes
and.
D
A
Pure,
your
your
you
know
like
Kafka,
on
steroids,.
E
Yeah,
so
so
how
I'd
like
to
Envision
this
for
you
to
make
it
simple?
So,
for
example,
you
say
that
I
want
to
do
sandbox,
POC
for
say
across
border
payment
right.
That
would
involve
interoperable
networks.
That
would
involve
liquidity.
If
you're
doing
tokens,
we
would
be
using
our
platform
to
build
that
for
you,
starting
from
the
micro
Services,
the
the
hosting
of
the
cloud,
the
platform,
the
node
involved
and
the
business
logic
and
then,
of
course,
integration.
E
A
As
I
was
I
I
just
wanted
to
to
to
to
to
to
understand
how
that
is,
is
how
that
is,
is
how
that
is
achieved,
especially
for
a
letter
of
credits
where,
where
you
have
TVP
right,
so
you
need
to
you
need
to
to
to
to
to
to
ask
for
the
funds.
A
So,
anyway,
all
good,
no
I,
just
out
of
pure
curiosity,
just
wanted
to.
B
D
B
And
you
know
this
may
be
a
more
question
but
which,
which
Protocols
are
people
mostly
using
while
you're
doing
this
work.
E
E
D
Yeah,
so
so
sorry
I've
got
a
quick
question.
Do
you
have
any
of
the
you
know,
potential
Partners
or
prospects
that
you're
looking
at
that
right
now
are
using
EDI
and
just
manual
processes
on
either
end
but
EDI
for
messaging.
Are
you
running
any
of
that?
Just
because
I
have
a
lot
of
people
saying?
Oh,
what
would
you
guys?
It's
fancy?
Cap
guy,
you
know
it's!
It's
almost
like
you
know,
messaging
and
stuff
and
how's
that
different
from
EDI
and
I'm.
Like
how
much
time
do
you
have.
E
D
E
Also
get
that
question
we
when
we
talk
to
our
clients
with
the
supply
chain,
ecosystems
I,
think
what
we
need
to
tell
them
from
an
ecosystem
standpoint
is
that
if
you
will
weigh
out
a
traditional
or
distributed
Tech,
not
a
traditional
one,
a
distributed
Tech
with
the
blockchain
ecosystem,
more
from
the
cost
and
the
scalability
perspective.
Blockchain
would
be
an
idle
business
case,
because
you
know
even
even
from
a
simple
math
point.
E
If
there
are
more
than
four
to
six
participants
in
in
a
use
case,
then
the
interactions
in
a
peer-to-peer
would
be
much
more
streamlined
than
if
you're
having
a
distributed
interactions
with,
even
even
if
you're,
ensuring
API
interactions,
the
cost
would
be
much
higher
and,
of
course
it
would
not
be
that
scalable.
Now,
when
you
move
to
a
peer-to-peer,
not
only
do
you
streamline
that
that's
number
one.
Secondly,
of
course
there
can
be
so
many
varied
features
to
the
application,
which
of
course,
are
limited
right
now,
because
of
regulations
not
being
there.
E
But
if
we
are
able
to
actually
do
that
in
a
couple
of
two
years,
I
mean
I've,
also
written
about
U.S
regulation
moving
towards
the
digital
assets.
So
we
are
able
to
tokenize
the
supply
chain
assets
and
you
know
move
it.
So
we
are
already
doing
that
in
applications
with
respect
to
tokenizing
an
instrument
or
an
asset.
E
B
Okay,
super
and
interesting.
You
know
there
were
some
really
interesting
projects
that
you
were
talking
about
when
we
were
having
a
sync
up
call.
So
would
you
like
to
educate
on
some
of
the
some
of
the
work
that
you've
done
with
settlement
and
elsewhere,
which
which
you
feel
it's
sort
of
leading
towards
Enterprise
adoption
and
why
people
will
have
you
know
data
data
sharing
on
multi-party
coordination
issues,
I
mean
we'll
come
to
the
issues
part,
but
first,
let's
hear
some
interesting
implementations
that
you've
done
recently.
E
Absolutely
I'd
love
to
talk
about
one
in
detail
actually
and
that's
very
close
to
my
art,
because
I
have
not
LED
that,
and
you
know,
from
the
point
of
conceptualizing
to
delivery
and
now
moving
towards
production
Network.
So
we've
worked
with
uttarakhand
State
and
in
the
medical
colleges,
essentially
in
India
in
a
lot
of
them,
even
majority
of
them.
Digitization
is
also
missing,
so
you
have
equipments,
which
are
of
very
high
value
in
the
medical
hospitals
and
those
assets.
E
The
record
keeping
and
the
issuance
is
is
not
happening
right
in
a
in
even
digitally.
So
what
we
did
was
we
actually
with
for
a
POC,
not
only
will
be
digitized,
we
use
blockchain
technology,
what
we
did
and
and
with
a
larger
vision
of
providing
the
benefit
to
the
End
customer.
So
so
I'll
go
in
detail.
What
happens
is
in
uttarakhand
state?
E
There
are
seven
medical
colleges
right
and
each
college
has
their
own
hospitals
and
there's
a
lot
of
equipment
which
is
towards
which
includes
the
critical
equipments
like
X-rays
and
scanners,
but
also
the
consumables.
So
the
issuance
the
consumption
and
the
Redemption
of
any
kind
of
asset
is
being
marked
on
a
blockchain,
so
so
we're
removing
eradicating
the
silos,
something
which
would
be
you
know
very
beneficial
with
Baseline,
also
because
there
are
multiple
participants
within
a
Medical
College
ecosystem.
Only
where
you
are
having
a
central
repository.
E
B
Issuance
as
well
yeah,
yeah
I
remember
those
similar
work,
which
you
know
we
were
conceptualizing.
I
can't
reveal
these
that
Department
of
the
of
the
government
of
India.
But
there
was
this
huge
Workshop
which
we
did
as
part
of
Accenture
strategy.
When
I
was
there
it's
that
was
like
the
most
phenomenal
Workshop
that
I
did.
B
While
I
was
in
an
Accenture
that
you
know
the
whole
day
we
did
design,
thinking
and
and
yeah
I
mean
these
were
the
issues
with
and
and
particularly
with
them
and
I'm
sure
you
would
have
also
faced
similar
things
so
for
perspective
of
people
on
the
college,
it's
one
of
the
one
of
the
largest
states
it
has.
It
is
very
resource
rich,
but.
D
B
A
lot
of
Greenland
as
well
a
lot
of
Hills
mountains
Etc,
so
connectivity
is
an
issue
sometimes
to.
E
So
when
we
started
this
POC,
this
is
really
funny
samrat,
but
I.
Think
the
first
request,
which
came
from
the
secretary
and
the
department
of
medical
equation,
where,
where
the
people
who
were
using
the
Technologies
are,
please
give
us
computers
and
give
us
a
network
line.
So
so
you
know
with
this
implementation
of
this
POC
before
that
they
ensured
that
there
is,
they
are
having
the
PCS
and
the
connectivities
mentioned.
E
The
web
directly
and
it's
such
an
amazing
solution,
what
they've
done
actually
they're
going
to
integrate
it
with
a
hospital
management
system,
so
the
recording
of
patient
data,
the
prescription,
everything
would
be
linked
with
the
assets.
So
not
only
is
it
preventive
maintenance
of
assets,
but
with
a
larger
vision
of
helping
the
end
user.
The
citizens
where
the
citizen
can
within
the
state
have
go
ahead
and
data
of
health
record
management,
so
so
yeah.
E
So
that's
one
of
the
very
interesting
use
case
which
which
we
have
which
I
have
worked
on
and
six
eight
months.
We
have
worked
on
that
and
now
we
are
going
for
a
production
Network.
Hopefully
that
should
be
approved
by
the
government.
That's
that's
one,
of
course,
and
and
like
I
mentioned
for
rbih,
that's
another
use
case
that
we've
done
then
also.
E
We
have
worked
with
Trident
group
with
one
of
our
partners,
where
we've
done
a
traceability
solution
for
yarn
to
fabric,
so
something
something
like
where
you
know
these
typical
scenarios
of
data
silos,
even
within
the
organization's
authorizations,
Missing
authorizations
validations
within
the
organizations
and-
and
these
were
checks
that
can
which
which
we
have
actually
delivered
in
the
pilot.
So
it's
it's
a
3M
validation.
Actually,
as
we
call
it,
it's
a
man,
material
machine
validation.
So
who
is
the
person
who's
working
on
the
the
transformation
of
the
fabric?
E
How
much
material
is
being
consumed
and
which
machine
is
being
used?
All
that
data
is
is
being
recorded,
and
then
there
is
an
end-to-end
traceability
with
the
sales
order
to
the
SKU
which
will
be
produced.
So
that's
a
small
POC
that
that's
that
we
have
done
in
the
supply
chain.
Realm
many
others
actually.
B
The
seed
program
as
well
for
the
government,
so
I
mean
when
you,
when
you
talk
about
government
projects,
I
think
it's
particularly
interesting,
because
any
government
project,
however
small
it
may
be
in
India
it
can
still
cover
a
country.
You
know
as
well.
So
so
so
you
know
what
was
the
scene?
What
was
the
scene
yeah.
E
So
I
think
that's
that's!
That's
a
phenomenal
win
for
us,
because
that's
the
harken
state
has
been
the
first
state
in
India
which
has
rolled
out
a
seed
traceability
application
to
the
end
Farmers.
So
the
problem
statement
here
is
which
we
are
aware
that
there's
a
lot
of
you
know
corrupt
counterfeit
happening
on
the
seats.
There's
no
traceability.
Farmers
are
the
one
who
actually
have
to
face
the
root
of
you
know
all
the
disruptions
in
the
supply
chain.
So
how
so?
What
we've
done
is
that
we
will
Mark
two
applications
here.
E
One
there
is
a
traceability
on
the
blockchain,
where
the
Ministry
of
Agriculture
is
involved.
So
from
the
time
the
agriculture
Department
moves
to
the
district
officer,
then
there
is
a
movement
to
the
warehouse,
A
supplier
and
distributor.
Then
it
moves
to
the
farmer.
So
the
entire
traceability
is
marked
on
a
blockchain
and
the
farmer
has
been
provided
with
a
mobile
app
where
the
farmer
will
be
onboarded
within
OTP
validation
linked
to
the
other,
and
then
it's
very
easy
for
him.
E
A
That's
interesting:
can
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
data
privacy
in
that
in
that,
in
that,
in
that
context,
especially,
you
know,
in
light
of
of
of
the
recent,
you
know,
Indian
Supreme,
Court
rulings
about
about
data
privacy,
rights
of
of
in
in
individuals,
vis-a-vis
that
traceability
and
also
I
I
just
be
curious.
You
know
the
rationale
for
for
for
tracking
all
that
stuff
on
chain,
which,
which
is
is
a
priori,
doesn't
doesn't
make
a
whole
lot
of
sense
to
me.
But
that's
just
me,
you
know.
E
No
I
think
that's
quite
experience,
because
your
questions
are
quite
relevant.
So,
of
course,
when
we
architect
the
design
for
any
problem
or
any
solution,
we
we
have
two
kind
of
investigate.
What
are
the
application
components
which
would
be
put
on
chain
and
which
would
be
put
off
chain
when
we
say
off
chain.
E
We
essentially
would
not
use
a
database,
but
we
use
decentralized
system
like
ipfs
into
interplanetary
file
systems
where
data
is
is
recorded
in
in
a
very
secure
Manner
and
then
the
movement,
the
proof
of
record,
is,
is
stored
on
the
blockchain,
so
the
movement
and
would
be
your
marked
on
the
blockchain.
So
of
course,
it's
supplemented
with
the
web
application,
which
is
user,
authenticated
and
the
access
control
would
be
in
in
that
manner
and
with
respect
to
the
data
privacy.
E
Second
part
of
your
question:
what
we've
ensured
here
is
that
for
the
date
the
data
would
be
encrypted
and
would
be
stored
in
the
ipfs
and
and
the
hash
would
only
be
present
over
there,
so
so
that
those
those
are
the
measures
that
we
have
taken
for
the
data
privacy
perspective.
A
So
how
do
you
ensure,
then
the
right
to
be
forgotten
for,
for
for
individuals
that
are
that
are
withdrawn,
consent.
A
A
Correct
me,
if
I'm
wrong,
but
it's
very
similar
to
gdpr
it
has
this
right
to
be
to
be
to
be
to
be
forgotten,
and
then
it
also
has
the
same
question
of
of
data
correlatability
and
if
an
individual
withdraws
consent,
you
know
you
have
to
provide
proof
that
the
data
has
been
removed.
Now,
if
you're,
if
you're,
if
you're,
if
you're,
if
you're,
storing
it
I
presume
on
a
private
ipfs
instance
not
on
on
a
on
a
public
one.
E
So
so
one
is
that
the
network,
of
course
the
ipfs,
is
a
private
instance
which
is
hosted
by
our
platform
and
with
respect
to
consent
of
the
participant
we
you
know,
while
onboarding
them.
That's
that's
a
that's
an
approval
kind
of
thing
that
we
have
taken
from
there.
No.
A
I'm
just
saying
I'm,
just
saying
this
is
really
really
really
really
really
really
really
tricky,
because
because
using
that's,
why
I'm
saying
it's
like?
Why
is
going
on
on
shade
and
why
you're
doing
stuff
that
is
like
that
is
is
is
is
like
fully
persistent
because
of
that
issue
because
of
the
correlatability
and
like.
A
A
E
E
Yeah
with
respect
to
transparency
in
the
supply
chain,
as
well
as
a
lot
of
counterfeit
happening
within
the
movement
of
goods,
from
the
supplier,
to
the
distributor,
even
from
the
warehouse
to
the
distributor
and
recording
that
at
each
level
on
a
blockchain,
a
record
which
would
not
be
tampered
is
the
problem
statement
we
are
trying
to
solve
for
the
extension
of
it
where
your
most
of
the
objections
are
focused
is
is,
is
actually
been
provided
because
of
the
users
not
being
crypto
native
and
those
the
farmers.
E
Of
course,
you
know
they
if
they
want
to
see
an
and-
and
that's
just
a
user
experience
right,
it's
more
of
a
customer
experience
so
that
they
can
have
an
insight
into
where
the
supply
is
and
what
are
the
payments
both
of
the
things
are
there
right,
because
for
them
it's
very
difficult
to
even
understand
how
many
kgs
of
seed
I
had
taken
before
and
how
much
payment
did
I
get
and
what
is
the
next
slot
which
which
would
be
coming
to
them.
So
for
them,
it's
it's
it's
a
blessing.
E
Actually
so
all
the
data
is
coming
to
him
through
through
the
mobile
app
which
they
are
using
so
yeah.
D
B
In
you
know,
because,
I'm
sure
to
see
the
project
contributes
into
the
prime
minister's
larger
vision
of
doubling
or
quadrupling
Farmers
income.
That
was
something
which
is
announced.
The
I
think
couple
of
years
back.
E
B
Sure
this
this
will
go
a
long
way
and
bring
them
on
board.
You
know
to
digital
initiatives
and
and
driving
cemeteries
in
their
in
their
actually
bringing
transparency
right.
They
get
they
get
what
they
deserve.
Right,
I
think
that's
something
which
has
been
missing
and.
E
There's
a
lot
of
other
work
actually
Simrad,
because
recently
I
was
also
at
a
conference
in
Mumbai,
and
our
finance
minister
had
also
mentioned
so
there's
an
rbih
has
also
introduced
so
the
green
bonds
and
and
the
kisan
initiatives
which
which
are
being
done
specifically
for
the
farmers,
because
these
are
the
people
actually,
who
are
you
know,
the
benefit
should
definitely
reap
down
to
them.
B
B
Know
at
some
point
I
was
also
thinking
of
you
know,
booking
a
ticket
and
going
there
and
because
you
know
everybody's
calling.
Where
are
you
where
you
are
so
so
it's
yeah
so
yeah?
Why
don't
you
share
some
learnings
from
there?
You
know
what
what's
happening,
how
what
was
the
you
know
top
three
things
that
you
that
you
think
were
most
interesting
and
we
should
all
know
about.
E
I
think
for
the
global
fintech
phase.
One
is,
of
course
this.
The
the
kind
of
work
which
we
have
heard
from
the
finance
ministry
for
the
green
Bond
second,
is
the
work
which
npci
is
doing.
Mp
is
doing,
MCI
is
doing
phenomenal
work.
They
they
already
have
a
platform
where
they
are
going,
collaborating
with
the
banks
for
different
use
cases,
and
this
is
in
separate
with
with
the
ibic,
which
is
happening
right.
So
this
is
a
separate
initiative.
B
D
B
Created
one
of
the
world's
cheapest
Payment
Systems,
you
know
cheapest
operational
costs
across
the
world.
Now
we
can
operate
in
other
countries
as
well
right
to
see
yeah.
E
I
have
heard
of
two
other
I
think
France
has
they
have
started
UK,
they
have
started.
Breast
I,
don't
know,
but
it's.
E
Months
some
other
countries
adopting
the
UPS
yeah.
B
Yeah
so
so
yeah
npca
is
doing
wonders,
especially
with
the
with
the
no
to
zero
cost
sort
of
payments.
You
know
that
they've
enabled
within
the
country,
so
so
yeah
phenomenal.
So
if,
if
anybody
is
watching
us
who's
from
NPC
or
can
connect
us
with
NPC
do
that
we
want
to
get
somebody
from
NPC
on
the
Baseline
show.
As
soon
as
we
can.
There
are
tons
of
use
cases
which
can
be
enabled
with
within
this.
B
We
would
love
to
interface
with
you,
okay,
so
coming
back
to
you
since
you've
seen
so
many
Industries,
you
know
you
spoke
about.
Actually
you
spoke
about
Supply
chains.
You
spoke
about
very
high-tech
stuff
as
well.
So
what
has
been
your
experience
in
terms
of
data
silos
and
data
sharing?
Friends?
Where
do
you
see?
You
know
any
pick
up
any
industry
which
you're
comfortable
with,
but
you
know
where
do
you
see
the
you
know?
B
E
Yeah
so
so
I
think
samrat.
The
first
thing
is
that
that
is,
we've
all
realized
that
you
know
data
is
the
new
oil
I
mean
that's,
that's
why
everybody
is
is
working
towards
that,
and
and
that's
why,
when
we
say
that
you
know
with
with
blockchain
we're
actually
digitizing
money,
a
sense
value.
So
so
so
that's
that's.
That's
definitely
one
thing,
but
when
we
talk
about
data
silos,
simrat
I
think
across
Industries
there's
there's
a
lot
of
potential.
E
We've
we've
spoken
about
Supply
chains,
where
it's
it's
an
inner
available
use
case
of
data
not
being
shared,
and
there
can
be
various
reasons.
Of
course,
there
are
not
ecosystems.
There
are
privacy
concerns.
There
are
trust
issues
and
also
scalability
issues
which
are
there,
which
leads,
and
if
we
are
able
to
solve
for
this
problem,
of
course,
there
can
be
multiple
benefits.
Right
Roi
would
be
a
very
small
thing.
There
could
be
a
linking
for
retractability,
of
course,
so
they're
already
working
for
that.
E
E
So,
like
we
were
talking
in
our
chat,
something
like
Freight
forwards
and
the
downstream
supply
chain
right,
where
you
have
your
transport
and
Distributors,
and
that
this
is
such
a
common
problem
that
we
have
discussed
with
great
Logistics
players
in
India,
whether
it
be
the
big
names,
the
startups
black
Park
Ecom
I
have
discussed
with
all
of
them,
and
this
is
like
a
pain
Point
if
we
are
able
to
actually
solve
for
this
problem
in
a
scalable
way,
which
would
also
be
secure
like
an
Enterprise
grade
application,
which
has
set
of
Standards
right,
like
what
Baseline
has
which,
which
is
following
a
set
of
a
framework.
A
You
know,
since
you
mentioned
settlement
data
privacy,
so
I
would
be
and
because
base
the
Baseline
protocol
right
is
is,
is
about
you
know:
multi
privacy,
preserving
multi-party
coordination
or,
as
it
says,
multi-party
coordination
under
zero
knowledge.
So
can
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
you
know?
How
have
how
have
you
employed,
zero
knowledge,
Technologies
and,
and
and
what
are
you
seeing
currently
in
your
in
your
work
in
terms
of
adoption,
or
is
that
still
where
people
are
gonna
go?
Is
that
something
can
I
eat
that
or
is
or
is
there?
A
E
There
are
very
few
people
who
would
actually
know
about
zero
knowledge,
proofs
and
and
how
they
can
be
employed
even
in
Solutions
right,
because
there's
there's
a
lot
of
work
like
we
are
having
W3
standards
dids
and
in
these
self,
where,
where
you
know,
we
are
having
SSID
Solutions,
which
are
being
used
where
we
are
able
to
share
partly
the
information
and
and
those
those
are
Frameworks
which
we're
using
for
privacy
standards
where
we've
also
worked
and
and
delivered
Solutions
for
trade
Finance
use
cases
with
the
one
of
our
clients
in
a
back
region,
but
I
might
be
wrong
here,
but
this
is
from
my
experience
in
my
client
interact
interactions
that
in
this
business
applications
there
is
less
usage
of
zero
knowledge
groups
happening
currently,
but
of
course,
technology
it,
technologically
even
from
the
perspective
of
privacy.
E
This
is,
of
course,
a
better
solution,
and
we
would
definitely
like
to
explore
this.
We
are
in
talks
with
polygon,
for
the
Hermes
also
trying
to
understand
the
Frameworks
and
how
we
can
utilize
this
and
help
our
clients
and-
and
definitely
this
would
definitely
have
a
requested.
Some
rat
also
that
we
would
like
a
technical
demo
of
absolutely.
B
Absolutely
I
think
that
was
one
commitment
to
sristi,
which
I
made
before
before
I
invited
her
here
that
we
should.
We
should
do
a
you
know.
We
should
pick
statistic
that
why
she
should.
Why
should
we
get
involved
with
Baseline?
You
know
we
would
definitely
want
to
have
a
leader
like
yourself,
history,
on
on
board
with
us
and
also
you
know,
you're
so
close
to
clients.
You
can
get
us
the
first
production
implementation.
I
am
very
hopeful
of
that.
A
B
A
Cannot
do
Global,
Supply,
Chain
traceability
without
their
knowledge
proofs
and
not
violating
WTO
regulation.
That's
basically,
basically
in
in
one
statement.
If
you
want
to
have
supply
chain
traceability
compliant
with
WTO
regulation.
Your
needs
are
knowledge
proofs.
There's
there
there.
If
you
can
show
me
how
you
can,
how
you
can
verify
the
trace.
Trace
everything
without
violating
WTA
to
rules
go
ahead.
A
If
you're,
not,
then
it
will
sit
on
a
ship
forever
and
and
never
or
will
will
be,
will
they
will
not
let
that
in
and
that's
like
a
timeline
of
three
to
four
years,
so
it's
like
it's
like
this
is
this
is
going
to
come
to
add
very
very
very
soon
and
unless
Logistics
providers,
you
know
companies
are
not
actively
engaging
that
you
will
have
a
global
show,
because,
because
CBP
is
pretty
hard
they're
like
you,
don't
have
that
you
didn't
register
your
product.
E
And
it's
not
only
supply
chain.
I
would
definitely
suggest
that
also
work
on
the
insurance
sector,
because
in
even
in
the
insurance
sector,
the
multi-party
validation
is
very
strong
use
case
and
if
we
have
zika
circuits
taking
care
of
the
privacy
concerns.
So
it's
it's.
It's
I
think
a
very
good
solution
for
our
clients.
B
Awesome
awesome
and
well
I
think
it
was
a
pretty
amazing
discussion
we
had
today
Christy
do
you
have
any
closing
thoughts
for
us
or
any
comments
on
the
Baseline
protocol
in
general.
E
I
I
I
think
it's
it's
an
amazing
architecture
and
the
problem
we
are
trying
to
solve
is
is
I.
Think
the
first
thing
which
I
shared
to
you
on
the
phone,
also
that
you
know
this
is
something
we
are
doing
for
our
clients
day
in
day
out,
and
this
is
a
protocol
that
you've
made
and
I
was
not
aware
of
what
I
mean,
of
course,
I
I'm.
Seeing
you
doing
a
lot
of
work.
E
Can
we
chat
but
We've
not
gone
in
depth
into
the
value
that
you're
adding
to
the
ecosystem
and
what
you're
actually
doing
is
we?
We
spend
hours
of
work
with
our
developers
in
coding
that
identifying
and
and
just
before,
this
call
also
I've
worked
on
something
similar
for.
E
B
Awesome
awesome
you
know
for
for
our
viewers.
You
know
we've
recently
done
baselining,
for
actually
we
did
Baseline
for
Excel
last
year.
We've
recently
done
Baseline
currently,
and
we
did
a
game
for
explaining
people
zero
knowledge
proofs
a
few
days
back
called
battleship.
B
Okay.
So
with
that
you
know
we
are
good
to
close
today's.
Today's
episode
guys
any
other
questions
before
we
let
her
go.
D
E
B
Super
awesome.
Thank
you
very
much
Steve
once
again
for
taking
time
out
and
speaking
to
us
today,
we
look
forward
to
our
interactions
in
the
in
the
future.
Thank
you.
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for
watching
us
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