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From YouTube: Basingstoke Gov - Licensing Sub Committee - 04/07/2023
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A
C
C
Okay
right,
so
what
we
move
on
now
to
is
that
all
representations
and
procedure
questions
need
to
go
through
myself,
the
chair
generally.
No
evidence
may
be
submitted
for
the
first
time
at
the
hearing
unless
all
parties
agree.
So
that
means
everything
that's
been
sent
in
already.
You
will
know,
and
those
who
are
speaking
we've
been
should
have
brought
their
names
forward
as
well.
C
C
So
the
next
bit
we're
going
to
do
is
we're
going
to
hear
the
application
and
then
the
representations
and
then
obviously
to
clarify
evidence.
That's
given,
but
we
won't
be
doing
any
cross-examination
of
any
party
on
their
case.
So
really.
This
is
about
everyone
being
able
to
have
a
chance
to
speak
and
express
both
sides
of
what's
going
on
and
then
once
we've
done
that
we
will
meet
as
a
subcommittee
in
private
to
go
through
and
make
the
decision.
D
D
D
The
event
takes
place
once
a
year
on
the
second
weekend
of
September
annually.
The
activities
will
only
apply
to
a
single
four
day
period
in
September
each
year,
during
the
28-day
consultation
period,
a
total
of
74
opposing
representations
were
received.
These
can
be
seen
at
appendix
4..
The
objections
relate
to
all
four
licensing
objectives,
which
are
the
prevention
of
crime
and
disorder,
Public
Safety,
the
prevention
of
public
nuisance
and
the
protection
of
children
from
harm.
D
D
D
D
D
Applications
must
be
considered
on
their
own
merits,
with
activities
and
conditions
needing
to
be
tailored
to
the
application.
The
section
182
guidance
includes
a
section
regarding
license
conditions
at
paragraph
1.16,
which
states
that
license
conditions
must
be
practical,
enforceable
related
to
the
licenseable
activities
of
the
premise
and
where
did
such
that
they
can
be
complied
with.
D
The
subcommittee
must
Focus
today's
hearing
on
the
steps
considered
appropriate
to
promote
the
licensing
objectives
that
have
given
rise
to
the
representation
and
avoid
straying
into
Undisputed
areas
determining
the
application
with
a
view
to
promoting
the
licensing
objectives
in
the
overall
interests
of
the
local
community.
The
licensing
Authority
must
give
appropriate
weight
to
the
following
steps:
the
steps
that
are
appropriate
to
promoting
the
licensing
objectives,
the
representations,
including
supporting
information
presented
by
all
parties,
the
guidance
and
the
council's
own
statement
of
Licensing
policy.
D
D
The
subcommittee
must
deter,
determine
the
application
and
provide
their
decision
notice
within
five
working
days
of
today's
hearing.
This
sets
out
the
application
and
procedure
to
determine
the
application.
Officers
are
now
happy
to
answer
any
questions
the
subcommittee
may
have.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
C
C
F
Good
morning,
councilors
residents
of
Basingstoke
and
Dean
today
we're
here
to
introduce
to
you
Cosmic
Roots
festival,
a
small,
independent,
Music
and
Arts
Festival
that
has
been
running
under
our
successful
management
since
2018..
Together
we
make
up
the
directors
and
Main
operation
managers
of
the
festival.
F
Before
we
get
into
the
details,
we
would
like
to
mention
that
we
have
had
a
productive
sag
meeting
on
the
19th
of
June
with
the
party
on
my
left.
It
was
great
to
re,
meet
all
the
relevant
authorities
and
we
are
in
ongoing
positive
dialogue
with
all
these
Departments
of
which
can
be
found
in
Pages
115
to
117
of
the
supplementary
agenda.
Also
minutes
from
this
sag
meeting
can
be
found
in
appendix
3
of
the
original
agenda.
F
F
During
the
statement,
we
would
like
to
focus
on
two
main
areas:
that
is,
noise
and
traffic.
We
will
also
touch
in
a
couple
of
areas
of
importance
surrounding
the
festival,
first
and
foremost
I'd
like
to
discuss
the
issue
of
noise.
We
understand
the
impact
of
noise,
the
impact
that
noise
can
have
on
the
surrounding
environment.
F
As
such,
we
have
Enlisted
the
expertise
of
Oz
Jeffries,
a
renowned
professional
in
the
industry.
Supplementary
details
on
Aussie's
expertise
can
be
found
within
page
79
of
the
supplementary
agenda.
Oz
heads
up
a
company
called
audiofeed
that
specializes
in
noise
management
strategy
and
implementation.
His
team
is
independent
of
the
festival
and
works
closely
alongside
the
council.
F
It's
worth
noting
that
audio
feed
produced
and
delivered
our
previous
noise
management
plan
and
their
previous
events
received
support
from
the
north
Norfolk
District
Council
on
the
basis
of
successful
noise
management
strategies,
as
well
as
positive
status
and
impacts
with
local
residents,
details
of
which
can
be
found
on
pages
51
and
52
of
appendix
3
and
Page
221
and
223
of
appendix
6..
I'm.
Now
going
to
pass
over
to
Oren
who's
going
to
discuss
the
issues
of
traffic
and
close.
This
statement.
G
G
This
dialogue
is
ongoing
and
can
be
seen
in
the
supplementary
agenda:
chronology
of
dialogue
under
traffic
management,
page
123.,
through
these
ongoing
Communications,
with
Ian
Ackerman
and
Lisa
Davies
from
the
highways
agency,
as
well
as
Ben
Jones
from
The
Last
Mile
we're
exploring
traffic
routes
and
management
options.
Whilst
taking
into
careful
consideration
the
suggestions
from
the
local
community,
which
are
noted
within
appendix
for
other
party
representations.
G
G
We
are
in
ongoing
talks
with
Ross
Harvey,
who
is
the
Arts
and
events
manager
for
Basingstoke
and
Dean
Borough
Council,
discussing
how
we
can
collaborate
with
local
creatives
from
musicians
to
artists
alike,
details
of
which
are
noted
in
the
chronology
of
dialogue.
Again,
we
have
also
received
support
from
locals
who
have
attended
the
festival
in
Norfolk,
as
well
as
requests
to
work
at
the
kingsmore,
as
well
as
requests
from
them
to
work
at
the
Kingsmill
cops
event.
A
number
of
these
can
be
found
under
supporting
emails
again.
G
G
We
would
like
to
engage
in
future
Parish
Council
meetings
to
share
updates,
answer
questions
and
ensure
that
the
local
community
is
a
well-informed
of
our
plans
and
receive
this
information
directly
from
us,
rather
than
a
third-party
source,
to
give
some
visual
aid
on
what
the
festival
is
all
about
and
a
further
introduction
to
Who
We
Are
we
do
and
what
we
do.
I
urge
you
to
have
a
look
through
an
introduction
to
Cosmic
Roots,
which
can
be
found
within
the
supplementary
agenda.
G
In
fact,
right
of
the
day
beginning
together,
we
hope
to
create
an
unforgettable
experience
whilst
respecting
the
needs
and
aspirations
of
the
people
of
Beijing,
Stoke
and
Dean,
and
the
local
areas
we
hope
to
flourish
with
the
people,
communities
and
business
that
make
up
beijingstoke
and
Dean
and
be
an
important
part
of
its
prosperous
Future
Vision.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
C
C
H
H
H
H
I've
looked
at
the
off
psych
traffic
management
plan
and
Hampshire
highways
have
presented
a
number
of
options
for
the
the
main
volume
of
traffic,
which
would
be
obviously
the
public,
Ingress
and
egress
from
the
site
during
the
days
of
the
festival,
they've
discounted,
an
option
which
rooted
the
the
traffic
through
Clinton
and
passed
the
school,
which
is
obviously
very
valid.
It's
quite
a
dangerous
area
in
terms
of
of
narrow
lanes
and
blind
bends.
H
Then
I
can
tell
you,
despite
what
has
inferred
that
this
is
a
less
risky
route
in
terms
of
that
would
have
the
narrow
Lanes
with
lacking
of
passing
places
for
vehicles.
That's
that's
simply
not
the
case
after
you.
If
you
go
past
the
ad
plant,
which
is
where
the
heavy
gold
Goods
Vehicles
stop,
you've
then
got
a
straight
route
which
is
single
track.
So
you
there
are
passing
places
there
for
vehicles
to
move
over
into
the
Verge.
You've
then
got
single
track.
All
the
way
up
to
Church,
Lane
and
Churchill.
H
H
On
the
entire
route,
but
what
it
is
extensive
use
by
is
is
cyclists.
It
forms
part
of
the
route
23,
National,
cycling,
Network,
it's
used
by
Walkers,
Runners
and
I
would
highlight
that
the
time
the
festivals
proposed.
That's
the
peak
training
time
for
the
bases
based
on
so
half
marathon
runners
and
guess
what
it
goes
through.
Church
Lane,
that's
part
of
the
route.
H
You
also
see
people
riding
horses
and,
and
it's
quite
heavily
used
by
Walkers.
It's
a
nice
sort
of
rural
setting,
and
certainly
since
the
pandemic,
we
found
more
and
more
people
are
using
a
village.
In
terms
of
you
know
the
immunity
of
just
walking
in
in
a
rural
community,
so
so
I
put
to
you
that
700
vehicle
movements,
which
is
what
what
I
think
the
the
traffic
management
plan
is,
is
highlighting
because
we're
talking
350
Vehicles
over
the
course
of
the
two
days
potentially
accessing
the
site.
H
So
that's
in
and
out
you're
talking
about
700
vehicle
movements.
You've
only
got
to
have
one
OneDrive
who
doesn't
know
the
area
they're
going
to
be
lots
of
people
who
are
going
to
be
unfamiliar
with
with
the
narrow
Lanes.
It's
not
signposted
with
speed
limits,
so
potentially
you
could
have
somebody
driving
in
excess
with
this
bit
of
of
what
is
a
a
natural
speed
limit.
H
If
you
like,
colliding
with
a
group
of
cyclists
or
a
walker
or
a
horse
rider
or
a
runner,
and
as
I
say,
you
know,
re-emphasize
and
I
think
you,
you
risk
the
the
danger
of
a
serious
accident,
so
I've
seen
some
of
the
mitigation
steps
that
you've
highlighted
for
car
sharing
and
obviously
putting
signs
up
well.
Car
sharing
is
all
very
well
but
a
10
pounds.
H
Parking
toll
for
people
of
less
than
three
vehicles
in
a
vehicle
is
not
going
to
put
off
people
who
are
going
to
pay
ticket
prices
and
glamping
I
would
suggest
and
and
finally
signage.
Well,
signage
is
fine,
but
everyone
uses
Sat
Nav
systems
and
satellite
navigation
systems
tend
to
root
people
from
all
over
the
place
and
in
many
strange
ways
to
find
the
the
site
entrance.
H
C
I
I
This
is
also
a
boat,
so
it's
used
a
lot
by
cyclists
and
walkers,
and
all
another
thing
is
if,
if
a
high
vehicle
turned
how
the
festival
intent
and
monitor
this
entrance
for
the
duration
of
the
build
for
the
festival
and
then
the
breakdown,
because
you
will
they
have
a
man
in
a
high
of
his
jacket,
standing
there
24
hours
a
day
for
two
three
weeks
and
how
will
they
monitor?
You
know
check
the
safety
of
people
walking
up
and
down
it,
there's
also
another
boat
boat
and
single
track.
I
Lane,
that's
further
on
down
the
339,
which
goes
past
swallik
Farm
probably
can't
see.
How
does
the
cosmic
Roots
intend
to
monitor
to
not
to
monitor
that
one,
so
this
will
attract
traffic,
probably
trying
to
avoid
congestion
at
the
festival
and
on
the
339,
especially
as
this
site.
This
track
leads
to
within
5K
of
the
site.
I
I
Where
is
it
going
to
be
inaudible
after
11
or
as
it
says
in
the
meeting
minutes
the
meeting
or
not,
as
it
says
in
the
paper
sent
out
via
audio
feed
I,
just
like
say,
I'm
a
resident
at
in
the
within
0.5
of
a
kilometer
of
the
site
and
I've
received
no
communication
from
the
from
cosmic
Roots
at
all
on
this
whole
matter
found
out
about
it
Word
of
Mouth
Andrew
about
four
weeks
ago,
which,
considering
apparently
it's
been
on
The
Cars,
Since,
2022,
I.
Think
it's
a
bit
amazing.
J
J
J
So
the
applicant
is
effectively
asking
everyone
to
jump
on
board
on
trust
and
it's
I'm,
not
questioning
anyone's
Integrity,
but
they
thought
they
had
a
traffic
management
plan
when
they
submitted
the
initial
application
and
they
hadn't
checked
to
see
that
the
heavy
Goods
vehicles
for
the
two
biodigesters
either
side
of
the
site
are
not
allowed
to
root
through
the
villages.
Because
the
village
roads
are
not
capable
of
taking
sustained
heavy
traffic.
J
I'd
also
like
to
pick
up
on
the
emergency
incident
plan
and
from
what
I've
seen
and
read
of
it.
It
focuses
on
an
emergency
incident
on
the
site,
which
absolutely
makes
sense,
because
that's
all
the
organizers
can
control
with
the
amount
of
traffic
and
the
likely
congestion
and
disruption
that
that
will
cause.
J
What
is
the
emergency
incident
plan
for
a
999
call
to
one
of
the
hundreds
of
residents
in
and
around
Alice
Fieldstone
winslade
and
further
afield,
that
will
be
affected
and
the
last
point
I'd
like
to
make
and
again
Emma
touched
on
it
previously.
The
security
aspect
and
the
prevention
of
crime.
The
site
they've
chosen,
is
bounded
by
the
three
castles
path.
J
That
looks
after
all,
those
people
bearing
in
mind
I,
believe
tgro
deadline
has
probably
slipped
now
always
coming
up
very,
very
close
if
they
did
want
to,
as
has
been
suggested
previously,
do
things
like
legally
enforceable
speed
limits
legally
enforceable,
one-way
systems,
but
that
is
it.
Thank
you,
chair.
K
Thank
you
chair.
My
name
is
Alan
Tyler
I'm,
chair
of
the
Clinton
Parish
Council
and
I'm
speaking.
Obviously,
on
behalf
of
the
parish
council,
we've
submitted
a
full
objection,
but
I
won't
go
over
those
points
just
to
highlight
a
couple
of
points.
Many
have
been
made,
but
I
think
they're
worth
doing
again.
First,
one
is
about
protection
of
children
from
home.
We
talked
about
tradition,
Primary
School.
It
lies
on
Northgate
Lane,
which
is
halfway
between
ellisfield
and
clydiston.
K
It's
on
a
very
narrow
Lane.
There
are
111
children
there
and
it
will
be
operational
during
both
the
build
and
the
first
day
of
the
of
the
festival.
And
if
the
festival
goes
ahead
next
year,
it
will
be.
It
will
be
operational
on
the
day
that
they
all
come
out
now.
The
school
as
I
said,
is
very
narrow,
Lanes
three
millim
three
meters
wide
in
places
no
Pavements
High
Banks
a
few
passing
places.
K
We
already
have
problems
with
why
mothers
bringing
children
to
school
in
their
cars
and
we've
had
loads
of
small
incidents.
I
really
do
not
want
to
have
a
problem
where
we've
got
different
people
who
don't
know
the
roads
coming
through
there
at
speeds
or
whatever.
It
is
very
worrying
for
us
at
particular
that
particular
area
in
terms
of
health
and
safety
or
safety
of
the
public,
interesting
to
note
that
beijingstone
Danes
already
they
don't
allow
their
operatives
to
do
litter,
picking
around
the
narrow
roads
around
the
lanes
without
closing
those
Lanes.
K
So
if
it's
not
safe
for
operatives
to
work
in
there,
it's
hardly
safe
for
the
public
generally,
when
there
is
going
to
be
so
much
more
traffic
running
around,
though
we
did
have
a
worry,
we
still
have
a
worry
about
the
licensing
times.
We
have
a
license
for
the
village
hall
and
it
closes
at
12
o'clock
and
it
closes
because
it's
harmful
to
them,
or
it's
going
to
cause
nuisance
to
the
general
public
or
the
local
public.
Why
does
this
one
go
until
dawn
question?
K
The
final
point,
though,
is
that
the
traffic
one-
and
that
is
to
say,
should
you
wish
to
Grant
this
license?
Can
we
only
have
one
safe
access
into
the
site
and
that
safe
access
is
available?
It
should
be
off
Junction
7,
going
up
to
the
on
a
bike
digester
or
garlic
Lane,
which
is
due
for
heavy
Vehicles
anyhow.
K
It
then
goes
straight
up:
Garlic
Lane,
through
Farley,
Wallop
and
down
to
the
site.
Now
those
roads
are
all
possibly
could
all
be
made
one
way
if
necessary,
because
they
do
not
serve.
You
know
they
can
all
be
used.
Other
lanes
could
be
used
in
to
to
serve
this
up
to
serve
the
local
population,
so
it
will
be
a
safe
route
in
and
out
it's
the
only
route
that
doesn't
go
through
any
of
the
villages.
It's
the
only
route
that
does
not
go
past
the
school.
C
C
And
last
but
not
least,
Lucy
Kendall,
oh
she's,
not
here,
sorry,
okay,
thank
you
right,
I!
Think!
That's!
Oh!
She
is!
Oh
sorry,
oh
okay!
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Sorry
Lucy,
just
thrown
me
now
right
so
I
think.
If
the
applicant
would
like
to
comment
on
any
of
those
questions
on
those
points,
people
have
raised
and
possibly
respond
to
any
questions
as
well.
That'd
be
lovely.
Thank
you.
F
Sorry,
Mark
Gordon,
Emma,
Simon
and
Alan.
Thank
you
for
raising
those
concerns
and
representations
I'm
going
to
do
my
best
to
sort
of
run
through
the
three
main
points
that
have
been
raised
and
I'll
start
with
noise,
seeing
as
that's
where
I've
begun
last
time.
The
definition
of
inaudible
that
Gordon
you
mentioned
has
since
been
discussed
with
Sonia
the
eho
and
Oz.
F
Now
Oz
is
going
to
conduct
a
24-hour
noise
survey
to
get
a
background
noise
check
and
from
that
we
will
then
get
our
inaudible
definition
and
in
inaudible
it
is
a
it's
slightly
up
in
the
air
and
based
on
the
jurisdiction
of
the
site,
and
it
is
a
measure
taken
from
the
nearest
property.
So
that
would
be
the
north
gate
category,
which
is
on
Northgate
Lane
at
the
entrance
to
the
festival,
site,
Alan
yeah.
F
Moving
on
to
the
traffic
I,
it
sounds
like
you
guys
might
not
have
seen
the
updated
traffic
management
plan
that
does
not
involve
any
route
through
Clifton
or
ellisfield
the
Scots,
as
I
mentioned,
there
are
no
routes
through
Clinton
or
Ellis
Fields
And.
Since
you
know
the
SAG
meeting,
we
have
had
further
discussions
with
the
last
mile
at
a
professional
event.
F
Traffic
management
company
who
are
going
to
sort
of
verify
and
help
us
ensure
that
the
right
signage
is
in
place,
potentially
speed
limits,
traffic
light
systems
and
yeah
we're
working
with
them
to
get
that
done
as
soon
as
possible.
We
have
a
meeting
with
them
later
this
week
to
finalize
those
plans,
Simon
and
Emma
I,
believe
you
kind
of
touched
on
the
incident.
F
Emergency
plans
and
sort
of
what
we
have
in
place
in
terms
of
the
security
plans,
the
litter
and
I'd
like
to
go
back
to
the
SAG
meeting
minutes
where
the
police
have
raised
no
concern
for
the
event
I
would
assume
they
would
only
do
this
if
they
are
happy
with
the
management
of
their
roles
outside
of
the
festival.
If
they
believed
there
to
be
a
concern,
they
would
have
maybe
suggested
that
they
can't
handle
the
pressure
that
the
festival
brings
to
them.
F
So
hopefully
that
uses
the
concern
and
anxiety
for
their
involvement.
The
security
plan
is
detailed
within
our
EMP
eror
private
reasons
to
us.
We
don't
want
to
share
that
document
publicly
with
everyone,
but
you
can
see
the
contents
and
index
of
that
document.
The
EMP
is
our
key
to
operations,
let's
call
it
and
if
we
share
that
document
publicly,
anyone
can
take
it
and
know
exactly
how
to
run
a
festival,
and
we
like
to
think
we
do
that
pretty
damn
well.
F
The
letter
comment
totally
understands
that
it's
hard
for
people
to
litter,
pick
on
single
narrow
streets,
totally
understandable.
We
have
a
dedicated,
24-hour
litter
picking
team
on
site,
so
the
latest
bill
from
our
site
and
kind
of
onto
the
local
area
is
going
to
be
very
minimal.
If
not
none
these
guys
are
amazing.
We
run
on-site
on-site
recycling
facilities
and
try
and
include
the
event
public
who
come
to
the
to
the
event
to
share
with
them
recycling
initiatives
that
we
put
in
place.
F
F
I
should
have
looped
this
into
the
traffic
comment
and
it
not
going
through
the
lilston
or
Ellis
field,
so
the
protection
of
children
we're
trying
our
best
we're
moving
it
away
from
the
school
lanes
and
putting
all
the
measures
in
place
to
try
and
mitigate
any
sort
of
problems.
There
I'll
pass
it
over
to
any
of
the
boys
if
they
want
to
say
anything
extra.
Thank
you.
Yeah.
G
We've
got
stuff
like
tented
structures,
hay,
bales
stage
directions,
they're
all
factored
into
his
sound
mapping
as
well
as
topography
and
even
at
a
later
stage
weather
conditions.
On
top
of
that,
he
uses
very
advanced
technology
such
as
SPL
tracking,
and
this
is
a
method.
Well,
it's
like
an
industry,
state-of-the-art
method
of
tracking
noise,
on-site
and
off-site
and
ensuring
that
any
fluctuations
in
decibel
readings
at
any
places,
are,
are
kind
of
proactively
managed
during
the
whole
duration
of
the
event.
G
G
I
think
that's
all
I
wanted
to
say
on
noise,
just
to
touch
on
on
traffic
and
kind
of
go
back
to
that.
We've
got
on
top
of
all
the
kind
of
methods
of
implementation
and
the
comprehensive
signage
that
that
Alan
spoke
about
which
I
totally
agree
with
and
there's
a
great
Point.
We
react.
We
have
a
few
initiatives.
A
B
B
This
will
alleviate
pressure
on
the
roads.
It
will
help
us
get
cars
into
sightwood
because
there'll
be
less
of
them
and
also
the
drivers
of
the
buses
will
be
well
informed
of
the
directions.
So
it's
something
that
we're
really
pushing
for
we're.
Also
touching
on
about
the
10
pound
car
parking
fee
that
was
used
at
our
last
site,
but,
as
was
spoken
about
the
it
wasn't
so
hard
for
the
vehicles
to
get
on
site
straight
from
the
a-road.
B
So
we
are
looking
at
increased
ticket
prices
for
vehicles
and
reduced
ticket
prices
for
traffic
coming
into
site,
VIA
trains
and
bus
shuttle
buses.
All
the
parking
fee
goes
to
a
local
charity.
As
was
spoken
about,
we
donated
to
Norfolk,
Wildlife
trust
children
in
nature
fund.
We
have
been
doing
that
for
the
last
three
years.
The
events
we're
looking
for
Charities
and
we'll
take
considerations
so
yeah.
That's
all
I
want
to
say
thank
you.
C
A
Well,
I'll
quickly
touch
on
the
batteries,
so
we're
already
in
contact
with
the
company
who
are
looking
to
reuse,
London,
electric
bus
batteries
and
there's
a
sort
of
circular
economy
approach,
which
is
a
bit
of
a
green
initiative
and
beyond
the
10
years
of
a
battery.
They
are
no
longer
allowed
to
be
used,
and
so
there's
about
1
billion
yearly.
Investment
on
the
circular
economy
approach
to
reusing
these
for
different
purposes
such
as
providing
energy
sources
in
a
green
way.
F
I
believe
these
batteries
are
actually
hydrogen,
not
lead
acid,
so
they
are.
These.
Are
these
are
ongoing
conversations
we're
having
to
try
and
create
a
Greener
environment
for
our
Festival
I
can't
promise
you
that
we
are
going
to
use
London
bus
batteries
to
run
the
event,
so
in
a
most
likely
event,
it's
going
to
be
a
diesel
generator.
We've
been
doing
it
for
years.
F
A
lot
of
events
in
across
the
country
use
diesel
generators.
It's
been
a
standard.
Sadly,
we
have
we.
We
were
allowed
to
use
red
diesel
the
price
of
we're
not
allowed
to
use
red
diesel
on
sites
anymore,
so
we'd
have
to
use
white
that
has
increased
our
prices
dramatically
of
running
events,
so
we
do.
We've
got
to
start
looking.
There's
solar
options
out
there
at
the
moment,
I'm
trying
to
put
solar
on
my
house
it's
expensive.
F
G
Having
said
that,
we
we
do
have
a
lot
of
green
initiatives.
We
use,
compost
lose,
which
again
is
a
major
expense
to
us,
but
we
believe
it
should
be
quite
important.
We
also
have
a
reusable
cup
system.
We
actually
came
up
with
the
idea
of
attaching
a
carabiner
to
these
cups
so
that
people
wouldn't
lose
them
around
the
festival
site
and
that's
actually,
we've
seen
a
significant
reduction
in
litter
across
site
and
yeah
I.
Think
that's,
that's
a
real
positive
I'd.
F
C
C
L
C
And
how
that
is
managed-
and
there
was
another
one
around
I
believe.
Obviously
the
SAG
has
highlighted
that
there's
no
concerns
around
fire,
but
I
was
just
wondering
what
the
policy
you
had
was
on
disposable
barbecues,
because
people
don't
obviously
carbon
monoxide
and
obviously
the
risk
and
then
again.
Well,
that's
not
part
of
this,
the
environmental
impact
and
also
looking
at
our
loads
of
the
supplementary
stuff
and
looking
at
the
actual
toilet
facilities,
which
potentially
could
have
an
impact
on
public
nuisance
compost,
toilets
great,
nothing
wrong
with
them,
but
I
just
wonder.
C
F
So
we
have
a
strict,
no
barbecue
disposable
value
policy
that
is
found
in
a
detailed
event:
management
plan,
campsite
noise
we
allow
no
one
to
bring
on
any
supplementary
speakers
of
personal
use,
so
noise
that
is
kept
in
a
campsite
will
be
sort
of
murmurs
of
voices,
and
hopefully
people
sleeping.
It
would
be
very
surprising
if
the
noise
of
the
campsite
override
the
inaudible
noise
at
the
Cattery
toilets.
Yes,
you're
right
it.
Probably
you
can't
see
exactly
where
all
the
toilets
are.
F
The
amazing
thing
about
compost
Blues
is
you
need
less
of
them
compared
to
the
traditional
portaloos?
They
are
able
to
hold
a
lot
more
waste
and
and
be
a
manageable
thing,
sounds
ridiculous,
but
they
use
them
at
a
wide
range
of
festivals,
Glastonbury
house
and
got
words
wireless.
You
name.
It
you're
pretty
much
seeing
a
compost
Lou
at
all
of
these
places
now
and
less
of
them
in
comparison
to
poor
to
lose.
They
smell
less
than
portaloos.
F
I'd
also
like
to
mention
on
that
nice
thing
we
haven't
actually
touched
on
sort
of
the
locations
of
these
sound
monitoring
systems.
Oz
is
in,
as
I've
said,
in
direct
con
contact
with
the
eho
and
if
any
Resident
would
want
a
sound
monitoring
system
put
in
at
their
house,
so
we
can
actively
record
it
there
throughout
the
weekend.
F
C
Thank
you.
There
was
also
another
Point
around
if
you
could
be
clarify
the
actual
route
of
traffic.
I.
Think
because
there's
been
a
lot
of
talk
about
what
the
actual
route
is
and
saying,
where
you're
not
going
and
all
the
rest
of
it.
So
just
for
everybody
here
they
can
understand
that
one
and
I
think
somebody
also
in
their
talk,
mentioned
comment
about
the
actual
site,
security
monitoring
and
how
that
would
be
done
for
entrances
and
potential
breach
points.
C
F
Sure
I'll
maybe
touch
on
the
traffic
and
then
pass
over
to
Harry
to
run
through
security
accreditation
and
that
sort
of
aspect
how
it
runs
throughout
the
weekend.
So.
Currently
we
have
traffic
turning
off
the
M3
at
Junction,
7
onto
the
a30
Northbound
towards
Basingstoke
they'll,
then
be
going
off
the
roundabout
onto
Woodbury
Lane
over
the
bridge
onto
garlic
Lane
through
Farley,
Wallop,
gramerson
lane
and
then
onto
the
Northgate
Cattery.
This
route
is
used
from
Farm
traffic
for
the
estate
and
through
the
biodigester
traffic
that
comes
off
the
M3.
F
We
are
in
discussion
about
making
this
a
on
the
Ingress,
a
one-way
system
and
then
on
the
egress,
making
it
a
one-way
system,
the
other
way
again
at
the
moment.
These
are
preliminary
plans
that
we
have
passed
through
the
highways
agency
and
The
Last
Mile
and,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
we
have
a
meeting
later
on
in
the
week
with
them
to
finalize
this
plan
and
ensure
that
all
parties
are
happy
through
throughout
these
routes.
F
F
I
am
going
to
attend
a
festival
on
the
weekend
and
I
know
that
they
have
had
a
very
similar
problem
with
traffic
management
and
they
specifically
in
their
pre-pre-event
documentation,
State
very
clearly
that
you
are
to
avoid
X
and
Y
Villages
and
it
is
of
utmost
importance
and
they
will
have
specific
signage
in
those
locations.
To
ensure
this
happens,
we
can
hope
the
best.
B
Thank
you,
Angus
touching
on
security.
So
when
we
write
our
security
plan,
we
will
agree
it
with
the
estate
and
ensure
that
they
are
happy
from
their
side.
We
will
also
agree
with
the
council
and
ensure
that
they
are
happy
on
their
side
too.
Once
all
three
parties
are
happy,
we
will
Implement
our
security
plan
using
Sia
licensed
officers.
H
F
These
guys
are
searching
for
all
the
substances
that
we
ban
from
the
festival.
This
includes
drugs,
laser
pens,
speakers,
disposable,
barbecues,
so
on
the
list
is
listed
in
our
EMP
and
we
we
ensure
that
this
is
a
tight
operation
and
there
is
no
trouble
brought
in
or
Contraband
bought
in
from
outside
of
the
festival
to
put
people
at
home
within
the
festival,
and
then
those
people
that
Harry
mentioned
are
in
position
and
patrolling
to
ensure
that
the
general
safety
and
observation
is
kind
of
carried
out.
F
We
also
have
on-site
dedicated,
Medical
Teams,
which
previously
we've
had
two
ambulances
on
site,
two
registered
doctors
and
we
set
up
individual
I.
Think
previously,
we've
had
four
individual
Bays
to
deal
with
any
incident
on
site.
We
have
a
very
good
proven
track
record
of
no
incidents
leaving
the
site.
We're
able
to
deal
with
most
of
them
on
the
site
and
we've
had
been
very
lucky
that
all
of
these
have
been
minor
incidences
and
nothing
major.
A
Just
to
add
to
that
funny
in
three
years
of
the
operation
that
we
ran
up
in
Norfolk,
there
was
only
one
incident,
one
water
incident
in
which
it
was
actually
a
product
of
our
additional
Red
Band
scheme,
which
is
where
elected
individuals
by
us.
We
give
an
LED
wristband
to
provide
an
additional
layer
of
communication
between
a
festival,
attendees
and
the
organizers.
Should
they
encounter
any
kind
of
problem
and
we
run
a
strict
policy
of
node
transphobia,
no
racism
and
no
layering
a
good
list
goes
on.
A
J
M
Yeah
after
The
Advisory
Group
meeting,
there
was
positive
commitment
from
all
the
agencies
to
work
with
the
directors.
We
want
to
be
updated
with
all
the
progress
of
that
there
will
be
a
pre-event
sort
of
site
inspection
as
well.
The
fire
officer
was
was
positive
in
that
with
the
access
the
I.
Don't
think
we
went
into
the
detail
of
the
point
that
you've
raised
regarding
the
the
batteries
and
we're
quite
happy
to.
M
Obviously
you
know
work
with
them
on
that
as
well,
so
we
can
take
that
back
to
it.
The
members
is
something
I
wanted
to
clarify
as
a
point
in
that,
if
the
members
were
minded,
if
the
members
were
granted
to
Grant
the
application,
you
can
include,
as
licensed
conditions,
approved
policies,
four
matters
that
are
relevant
to
the
license
and
objectives.
M
C
F
So
it's
a
it's
a
periodic
thing
where
we
arrive
on
the
site
two
weeks
before
the
commencement
date
of
the
live
event.
This
is
with
a
low
volume
of
production,
crew.
Myself
and
probably
two
of
the
other
directors
here
will
join
from
the
very
get-go.
This
will
slowly
increase
to
no
more
than
say
40
people
for
this
year
before
the
event
starts,
and
then
we
we
have
a
strict
with
the
estate
contract
day
to
be
out,
which
is
one
week
after
the
event.
F
Yes,
I
actually
met
your
sister
and
we
we
believe
that
the
one-way
system
on
the
north
gate
category
still
allows
an
entrance
into
that
business
and
an
exit
through
Clinton.
We're,
not
you,
you
guys,
can
still
do
the
Clinton
route,
we're
just
not
taking
our
event
traffic
through
there.
So
you
can
come
in
through
ellisfield
as
well
and
you
can
come
in
through
Farley
wallet.
F
G
That
will
be
traffic
past
the
category
yes,
but
basically
with
our
with
our
car
park.
What
we
do
is
we:
we
create
a
system
that
allows
cars
to
go
round
the
car
park
and
then
Park.
This
actually
leaves
alleviates
pressure
on
the
road.
So,
if,
if
you
imagine
you've
got
almost
like,
we
call
them
Disney
Lanes,
which
wind
people
around
this
actually
means
you
can
get
a
lot
of
cars
into
the
car
park
and
off
the
road
before
actually
parking
them.
So
the
the
actual
Road
itself
should
be
clear
of
traffic.
N
Why
sorry,
yeah
I
was
just
wondering
you're
going
to
use
garlic,
Lane
you're
suggestion
to
use
that.
Well,
if
you
come
past
a
Farley
estate
house
on
your
when
you
get
this
right
on
my
right,
then
you
come
past
the
house
which
is
being
renovated
by
Lord
limited
on
your
left.
If
you
turn
directly
left
there
past
his
old
barn,
there
is
a
track
down
there
and
I.
N
G
E
M
Yeah,
thank
you
very
much
chair.
Just
a
couple
of
points
of
clarification
really
as
the
licensing
Authority,
we
would
want
to
be
able
to
identify
who
the
people
person's
responsible
for
the
license
for
activities
are
so
I
really
just
wanted
to
know
about
your
sort
of
presence,
your
individual
Presence
at
the
event
and
kind
of
a
bit
about
the
life
decision-making
process.
So
if
they
were
an
incident
or
if
it
was
yeah,
there
was
a
noise
management
issue
that
was
identified
Outsource.
M
G
Yeah,
thank
you
for
that
yeah.
We
are
all
on
site
there.
We
probably
will
work
in
shift
patterns
because,
as
you
can
imagine,
there's
a
lot
of
hours
to
cover,
but
yeah.
We
we
generally
set
up
an
office
and
that
office
is
generally
manned
24
hours
a
day,
that's
kind
of
our
Central
Hub.
Where
everything
goes
through
it.
We
have
a
radio
system
that
keeps
us
in
contact
with
all
of
the
kind
of
relevant
managers
across
the
site.
G
So
that's
from
security
to
noise,
to
Stage
managers,
medical
the
list
goes
on
and
I.
Think
a
great
example
is,
is
a
noise
related
issue
that
happens
off-site
someone
is,
can
hear,
can
hear
it
it's
above
an
inaudible
level
and
what
we
do
provide,
or
actually
what
the
independent
noise
management
company
provides
is,
is
a
direct
line
of
contact.
G
So
systems
like
that
that
actually
allow
residents
a
direct
line
to
man
been
is
yeah
is
something
that
that
we
definitely
promote
and
it's
the
same
same
with
medical
and
fire
Services.
We
have
Medical
Teams
they're
in
direct
contact
with
us
any
instance
that
happen
will
will
get
filtered
to
us
straight
away.
C
G
M
You
know
looking
at
the
complaints
working
with
the
complaint,
with
the
talk
the
applicants
seeing
what's
happened,
why
it
happened,
how
it
happened,
Etc
and
then
we
would
look
to
work
with
the
applicant
to
see
whether
you
know
we
can
amend
the
license
without
having
to
go
through
formal
hearings.
They
can
do
a
variation
application,
it
can
add
conditions.
C
M
I
just
wanted
to
raise
those
two
points.
So
I
did
raise
my
first
point
and
then
I
know
it
stimulates
another.
Another
question
I
mean
I,
just
really
wanted
to
make
the
point
that
Communications
for
me
seems
to
be
sort
of
key
and
I
think
that
the
way
that
the
event
is
is
planned
and
when
it's
all
finalized,
it's
really
key
to
the
engagement
with
the
customers
and
and
how
sort
of
the
code
of
conduct
or
the
or
the
arrival
you
know
the
the
traffic
system,
the
ticketing
system.
M
You
know
the
the
code
of
conduct
on
the
campsite,
for
instance,
all
of
those
things
is
really
it's
really
important
that
those
things
are
made
clear
within
the
ticketing
information,
I
suppose,
which
now
because
of
the
internet
I
know
you'll,
get
a
physical
ticket
or
you'll,
get
a
barcode
or
scan
or
whatever,
but
there's
so
much
that
can
be
made
clear
so
that
people
come
into
the
event
know
in
advance
the
way
that
they
have
to
come
into
the
event.
The
way
they
have
to
leave
the
event.
M
L
G
For
raising
that,
all
of
our
all
of
our
plans
for
food
and
drink
are
within
our
EMP
again,
don't
really
want
to
give
people
keys
to
the
castle,
but
what
I
would
say
is
that
I'm,
actually
a
chef,
professional
chef
and
I
definitely
look
into
the
food
and
drink
side
of
things
quite
deeply,
so
there
will
be
Provisions
for
people
and
more
information
on
that
we'd
be
happy
to
discuss
at
Parish
meetings.
If
it's,
if
it's
something
of
of
importance,
if
you'll
have
us.
F
G
G
P
Peter
and
I
live
in
ellisfield
from
time
to
time.
The
a339
is
closed
because
there's
an
accident
on
it
as
a
result
of
that
traffic
comes
through
the
village
I
wonder
what
contingency
plans
have
been
made,
should
the
exit,
or
should
the
traffic
from
the
a339
come
through
the
village
because
of
an
accident.
G
C
Q
Yeah
I
wasn't
very
clear
about
the
shuttle
bus
aspect
of
your
of
your
plan.
It
seemed
to
be
a
bit
very
fairy
within
talks
with,
but
there
didn't
seem
to
be
any
definite
answer
there.
I
would
like
more
detail.
Is
there
how
frequently
it
would
be,
for
instance,
and
are
you
expecting
most
of
the
people
to
arrive
at
the
beginning
of
the
festival
and
go
at
the
end
or
do
people
excuse
me
come
and
go
in
between
times,
including
from
their
cars
and
I'm
thinking
about
the
traffic
on
the
roads?
There,
foreign.
G
It's
something
that
that
we
are
looking
into.
We
can't
confirm
this
before
we've
got
a
license
or
because
otherwise,
this
event
can't
can't
go
ahead.
So
we
are
looking
into
this.
The
our
main
area
is
looking
at
a
shuttle
bus
service
from
Basingstoke
train
station
and
and
timing
it
with
the
train
times,
especially
from
London.
G
This
allows
a
lot
of
people
to
get
on
a
bus
at
once
and
come
to
the
site
in
one
one
vehicle,
thus
alleviating
pressure
on
the
roads.
We
have
further
meetings
with
them.
We
have
a
dialogue
with
them
in
in
our
in
our
email
chain.
We've
added
the
chronology
of
dialogue,
yeah.
It
can
be
found
in
the
chronology
of
dialogue
yeah.
Obviously
we
can't
we
can't
confirm
booking
them
until
we
have
the
premise
license
and
therefore
can
go
ahead
with
the
event.
F
On
that,
to
answer
your
other
question
about
the
egress
of
people
over
the
weekend,
or
do
they
come
at
the
beginning?
Most
of
our
crowds
are
committed
to
coming
on
the
first
day
and
staying
and
remaining
on
site
until
the
last
day.
This
makes
traffic
management
actually
a
lot
easier
for
us
because
they
come
in
one
day
and
we
don't
have
to
worry
about
it
being
staggered
all
the
way
over
a
weekend
and
deal
with
build-ups
kind
of
over
a
weekend.
F
C
D
Thank
you
chair,
so
I,
don't
propose
to
repeat
my
introductory
points.
After
hearing
from
all
parties,
it
is
now
for
the
licensing
subcommittee
to
to
determine
the
application.
By
taking
the
steps
they
consider
appropriate
to
promote
the
licensing
objectives.
The
options
come
under
Section.
Eighteen,
four
of
the
licensing
act,
2003
shown
in
paragraph
5.3
of
the
report.
D
The
subcommittee
must
determine
the
application
within
five
working
days
of
today's
hearing
and
publish
a
decision
notice.
The
decision
notice
must
include
reasons
behind
the
determination
and
include
justification
to
depart
from
the
council
statement
of
Licensing
policy.
If
they
decide
to
depart
from
the
policy,
members
are
entitled
to
include
approved
event
management
plans
such
as
a
traffic
management
or
noise
management
policy.
As
part
of
a
licensed
condition.
D
R
L
C
Okay,
so
the
last
bit
I
have
to
read
out
is
that,
pursuant
to
section
100
A4
of
the
Local
Government
Act
1972,
the
public
now
need
to
be
excluded
from
the
remainder
of
the
meeting
on
the
ground
that
the
public
interest
in
maintaining
the
exemption
outweighs
the
public
interest
in
disclosing
it,
and
therefore
that
exempt
information
is
likely
to
be
disclosed,
as
defined
in
paragraph
one
of
schedule.
12A
of
the
act.