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A
A
A
A
A
B
Thank
you
chair.
This
is
the
routine
report.
We
provide
to
committee
each
time
it's
a
very
short
report,
which
is
quite
a
positive
thing,
because
you'll
see
in
paragraph
3.1
that
we've
only
had
one
new
complaint
since
the
last
meeting
in
July
2022,
and
that
was
on
the
27th
of
September
last
year.
There
are
no
undetermined
complaints
and
no
new
complaints
have
been
received
since
that
time.
So,
although
short
I
would
consider
it
quite
positive
that
we
haven't
had
many
complaints.
A
Any
questions
yes
country,
slimming.
C
Thank
you
well,
I
suppose
this
is
to
be
for
the
fact
we've
adopted
the
new
code
of
conduct
might
make
things
a
bit
clearer,
maybe
and
I'm,
hoping
that
the
parishes
are
all
I
know
later
in
the
report.
You've
actually
been
some
of
the
parishes
that
only
about
half
of
them
have
actually
adopted
the
new
code.
C
So
I'm
I'm
surprised,
pleasantly
surprised
that
the
parishes
are
also
perhaps
not
coming
forward
with
so
many.
But
maybe
if
we
do
a
bit
more
training,
they
might
come
some
more
who
knows,
but
I
think
we
must
welcome
this
and
I.
Don't
know
you
know
if
we
can
put
any
reason.
Our
other
places
having
similar
experience,
that
the
numbers
are
dropping
or
are
we
unusual.
B
A
Is
a
very
welcome
that
the
way
that
we
have
got
adherence
to
our
code
of
condor,
yes,
counselor
McCormick.
E
A
mischievous
question,
I
guess,
are:
we
allowed
to
know
which
parish.
B
I
can't
tell
you
off
the
top
of
my
head,
but
I
can
provide
you
with
that
information.
It
shouldn't
be
really
in
the
public
domain.
I,
don't
think
so.
I
can
provide
you
with
it
outside
of
the
meeting.
F
Is
the
we've
also
got
elections
coming
up?
Is
that
likely
from
previous
history
to
set
up
a
spurt
of
complaints.
B
So
in
the
couple
of
years,
two
or
three
years
I've
been
here,
it
does
so
usually
May
June.
We
do
get
a
it's
things,
do
pick
up
a
little
bit,
but
so
we'll
see.
A
B
Thank
you
chair.
Yes,
it's
come
to
that
time
again
when
we
need
to
commence
a
recruitment
process
for
both
independent
persons
and
independent
standards.
Assessors,
it
is
a
bit
complicated
so
and
the
council
approved
three
independent
persons
and
four
independent
standards.
Assessors,
and
these
are
for
terms
of
two
years
plus
an
extension
of
two
years.
We
currently
have
two
independent
persons
after
one
resigned
last
month,
and
the
term
of
one
of
the
independent
persons
expires
at
the
end
of
the
year.
So
we
need
the
remaining
independent
person.
B
Can
their
term
can
be
extended
for
two
years
from
October,
so
there
will,
in
effect,
be
by
the
end
of
the
year
two
vacancies
for
independent
persons
in
terms
of
independent
standards.
Assessors,
we
currently
have
three,
as
we
were,
unable
to
recruit
a
fourth
on
the
last
occasion,
two
of
the
three
independent
sons
and
assessors,
including
Verity.
At
the
end,
her
her
term
expires
at
the
end
of
the
year
and
it
can't
be
extended
any
further.
B
So
we
will
have
three
vacancies
for
independent
standards,
assessors
Again
by
the
end
of
the
year,
so
I'm
seeking
the
committee's
approval
to
commence
the
recruitment
process
Just
for
information.
The
audit
and
accounts
committee
has
also
approved,
recruiting
and
independent
for
that
person
for
that
committee.
B
So
it
is
possible
we
might
look
at
how
we
recruit
the
posts,
but
it
obviously
it
will
be
post-election
once
we
know
who
will
be
on
the
committee-
the
standards
committee
at
that
time,
as
the
interviewers,
the
interview
panel
consists
of
two
Borough
councilors
and
one
Parish
Town
councilor
and
myself,
or
the
deputy
monitoring
officer
as
advisor
to
the
panel.
B
So
once
the
panel
has
taken
these
matters
through
the
appointments
process,
the
actual
appointment
has
to
be
referred
to
council
for
approval.
So
it's
really
kicking
off
the
process
and
seeking
your
approval
to
commence
it.
Okay,.
C
Thank
you,
chair
I,
think
it's
important
to
note
that
we
we
should
select
a
chair
from
the
Independent
person.
Yes,
no
yeah.
We
get
very
confusing
because
we've
called
them
some
of
the
names
apologies.
C
So
it's
important
that
we
do
have
people
who
are
prepared
to
take
on
the
chair
as
well
as
obviously
do
all
the
assessments
and
I
do
think
whether
we
should
perhaps
reduce
the
numbers
but
I
think
we've
got
a
little
bit
of
give
and
take
with
people
leaving
and
whatever
otherwise,
I
think
it's
important
we
try
and
recruit
as
many
as
possible
and
I
know
that
we've
got
vacancies
and
I
know
it's
quite
difficult
again
to
recruit.
Independent
people
I
suspect
we're,
not
the
only
Council
doing
it
because
I
think.
C
Last
time
we
had
people
from
quite
a
distance
away
and
we
agreed
that
we
would
pay
travel
costs
for
somebody
to
come.
So
obviously,
if
we've
spread
our
net
wisely,
I
think
the
process
that
we
had
last
time,
which
I
was
involved
with,
was
very
fair
and
fine
and
I
think
we
managed
to
recruit
some
people
that
obviously
have
stayed
with
us.
So
that's
good.
So
I
would
suggest
that
we
continue
with
the
same
process
as
last
time
and
continue
with
it
as
it
is,
and
that's
that's
my
personal
view.
A
But
before
yes
thank
you,
ice
counselor.
D
I'm
I'd
just
like
to
query
the
publicity
adverts
in
the
local
newspaper
and
on
the
website
is
feels
to
me
a
bit
restricted
and
if
we're
looking
to
recruit,
are
we
allowed
to
use
other
media.
B
Yes,
absolutely
so
we
have
to
do
it
in
the
local
newspaper
because
the
the
law
says
we
have
to
but
we'll
use
any
means
if
there
are
other
ways
of
getting
the
news
out,
we're
I'm
quite
willing
to
do
it.
So
if
you've
got
any
ideas
where
I
can
advertise
as
what
anywhere
else,
that
would
be
helpful.
But
we
do
we
try.
We've
done
some
recruitment
for
other
independent
sort
of
panels
which
haven't
been
very
successful.
So
we
have
used
sort
of
Partnerships
that
we
know
as
well
to
try
and
get
the
best
people.
A
Yeah
counselor
Paris,
counselor
slatford.
A
C
Thank
you
last
time,
I'm
pretty
sure
we
had
somebody
from
Yorkshire
yeah
and
somebody
we
actually
recruited
from
Cambridgeshire
or
Norfolk.
So
we
obviously
did
do
some
wider
advertising
last
time,
so
we
did
actually
get
some
applicants
from
other
places,
but
yeah
you're,
right,
National,
Association
local
councils.
Obviously
the
LGA
presumably
have
a
means
of
advertising,
as
well
so
yeah
as
wide
as
possible
to
get
hold
of
people.
That
might
be
aware
of
what
we're
doing
I
mean
there
is
a.
C
There
is
a
payment,
it's
not
a
great
deal,
but
if
we're
prepared
to
pay
some
travel
expenses-
and
we
did
an
awful
lot
on
Zoom
anyway,
in
some
instances
we
don't
make
decisions,
but
obviously
some
of
it
can
be
done
that
way,
so
it
might
allow
people
and
they
can
make
it
put
it
on
their
CV,
which
they
were
quite
happy
to
do,
because
I
think
some
of
them
became
a
bit.
Professional
and
people
understand
this
community
across
the
country.
That
was
my
feeling
that
there
were
quite
a
lot
of
people
who
were
looking
for.
A
Thank
you
I.
Thank
you.
I.
Do
remember
that
and
I
do
think
that
we
have
to
really
recruit
from
elsewhere.
Councilor
Bastian.
G
Thank
you
chair.
It's
just
a
couple
of
questions
on
one
was
on
the
allowances.
Actually
independent
persons,
members
allowance,
2034
pounds,
independent
standards,
assessors
who
come
to
these
meetings,
correct
678
pounds
is
that
I'm
not
proposing
that
we
change
it
here
and
now,
but
is?
Is
that
right?
G
A
B
So
the
member
allowances
scheme
was
reviewed
at
the
last
council
meeting,
so
we
had
to
appoint
an
independent
remuneration
panel
to
look
at
them
all
and
that's
those
were
the
sums
that
they
came
back
with
I.
Think
because
the
independent
person
is
a
statutory
appointment
and
there's
also
a
dual
role:
that
if
there
was
a
looking
at
disciplinary
or
dismissal
of
any
of
the
statutory
officers,
then
that
person
takes
that
role
as
well.
So
I
think
that's
accounts
for
the
higher
the
higher
rate.
G
G
Of
the
further
just
not
question
just
an
observation,
page
25,
independent
person,
eligibility
criteria,
we
say
they
cannot
be
a
a
counselor
captive
member
Etc,
I.
Think.
The
second
bullet
point
should
be
the
third
bullet
point
relative
or
close
friend
of
either
of
the
above
I
think
they're,
just
in
the
wrong
order.
Yeah.
Thank
you.
You're
welcome.
F
Hi
a
couple
of
comments.
Firstly,
if
there's
anything
I
can
do
to
help
with
the
recruitment
process,
including,
for
example,
giving
a
an
insight
into
whether
I've
enjoyed
it,
which
I've
got
to
say.
I
have
and
also
there
are
other
I'm
I'm,
still
obviously
involved
in
quite
a
few
networks
in
across
the
border
in
bunks
here,
and
there
are
various
sort
of
community
newsletters
and
things
and
it
might
be
worth
tapping
into
some
of
those
because
you
get
some
quite
civic-minded.
People.
A
F
Those
in
terms
of
the
issue
of
payment
I
mean
I,
don't
do
it
for
the
payment
I
mean
I've
got
to
serve,
found
it
fascinating
and
enjoyable,
and
worthwhile
and
I
think
that's
probably
the
reason
that
people
will
be
interested
in
doing
it.
The
little
bit
of
money
is
just
a
little
extra.
C
G
B
G
A
Already
got
him
remember,
yeah,
and
hopefully
that
will
I'm
not
asking
for
volunteer
at
this
meeting,
but
maybe
after
the
election,
because
we
have
to
make
sure
that
we
are
all
here
and
so
that
we
can
choose
members
and,
as
we
know,
that
the
constitution
says
that
we
have
to
have
two
Borough
councilors
and
one
Parish
councilor.
And
then
the
monitoring
officers
are
going
to
be
there
for
advice.
A
A
Secondly,
to
interview
panel
consists
of
two
Borough
councilors
and
one
Parish
or
town
councilor,
and
the
monitoring
or
Deputy
monitoring
officer
to
be
present.
As
advisor
to
the
panel,
the
standard
committee
agrees
that
the
interview
panel
recommend
to
counsel
the
appointment
of
up
to
two
independent
persons
and
up
to
three
independent
standard
offices.
A
B
Ire,
thank
you.
Yes,
we
present
a
annual
report
to
Council
in
July
of
this
year
for
noting
reporting
on
the
work
of
the
committee
over
the
last
year.
It
has
been
a
light
year
as
the
heavy
lifting
I
think
with
the
code
of
conduct
and
social
media
guidance.
Etc
was
done
in
the
previous
year,
so
it
is
a
light
report.
I'm
just
seeking
and
I
noticed
a
spelling
error
under
no
code
of
conduct.
Well
so
I'll
change
that.
B
So,
if
there's
anything
else,
anybody
thinks
we
can
include
in
that
or
if
there's
any
amendments
you
wish
me
to
make.
I
should
just
point
out
I
suppose
that,
in
terms
of
looking
over
the
complaints
over
the
the
last
year,
there
have
only
been
three
complaints
which
again
is
very
positive
as
far
as
I'm
concerned,
but
yeah,
it's
been
a
quite
to
quiet
year
on
the
standards
front,
yeah.
C
Thank
you
chair
in
the
first
part
of
the
paragraph
which
is
from
the
chair.
I
know,
and
you
still
mentioned.
Town
Council
I
was
the
term
Council
representative,
but
obviously
at.
D
C
Current
moment
we
haven't
got
time:
Council
Representatives,
because
I
became
the
Borough
Council
representative,
so
I
swapped
hats
and
became
the
borough
I
wonder
if
we
ought
to
put
the
names
of
the
independent
persons
in
the
list
of
people
at
the
bottom,
because
we
haven't
mentioned.
D
C
B
I
haven't
received
any
it
might
be
that
Council,
Mahoney
or
council's
African
come
back
on.
That
I
was
actually
quite
glad
to
see
that
over
half,
because
when
I
looked
like
on
the
last
occasion
that
it
was
significantly
less
than
half
of
the
parish
councils,
that
adopted
it
and
I
was
I
was
quite
nicely
surprised
that
over
half
now
have
adopted
it
I
think
Council,
Mahoney
and
I
were
going
to
do
a
push
again
weren't.
We,
which
is
times
timetable
slipped
a
little,
but
we
need
to
do
that.
C
We
did
have
some
councils
who
had
adopted
a
code
of
conduct
which
meant
that
we
couldn't
actually
take
what
action
we
might
have
done
if
they'd
adopted
the
then
code
and
with
a
new
one,
so
I
think
it's
important
that
all
the
towns
and
parishes
do
actually
adopt
them.
My
own
Town
Council,
with
my
Town
Council,
had
adopted
it
before
the
borough
did
so
I
think
we
should
be
pushing
very
hard
and
I
hope
you
can
help
to
do
that.
E
Yes,
so
Fiona
and
I
did
speak
at
length
actually
following
the
last
basis
to
Oak
District
association
meeting,
where
we
had
representation
from
the
parish
and
town
councils
there.
It
was
our
original
idea
to
pull
together
a
Workshop
sort
of
a
full
day
sort
of
training
session
for
the
Clarks
to
wrap
our
hands
and
arms
around
the
clocks
to
give
them
a
little
bit
of
TLC,
because
a
lot
of
them
feel
that
they're
isolated
in
the
role
that
they
do
gut
feel
is
that
I'm
afraid
you
know.
E
A
lot
of
the
communications
that
are
sent
out
are
that
it
is
down
to
the
Clarks
in
the
parishes
whether
they
bore
that
on
to
the
rest
of
the
team.
So
I
think
one
of
the
things
we
did
discuss
as
well
was
to
ensure
that
when
we
do,
when
you
do
send
out
Communications
about
things
like
this,
you
should
be
also
addressing
it
to
the
chair
as
as
opposed
to
just
the
collapse.
E
Only
so
there's
some
sort
of
visibility
due
to
personal
circumstances,
I've
not
been
able
to
progress
that
sort
of
training
day
with
the
Clarks,
but
once
the
elections
are
out
of
the
way
we
could
just
move
it
into
June
to
make
it
a
little
bit
of
a
it
would
probably
be
quite
good
actually,
because
then
we
would
have
a
lot
of
new
councilors,
potentially
and
we'll
be
able
to
offer
you'll
be
able
to
produce
some
support
for
the
new
training
from
her.
So
there's
quite
a
lot.
We
can
do.
E
I've
also
got
support
from
Hulk
to
actually
come
down
and
support
that
day
as
well
and
I
spoke
to
Allison
zareki
in
the
in
the
sustainability
section.
She
was
you
know,
desperate
to
come
out,
and
you
know
so.
It
could
be
like
quite
a
good
day
for
a
networking
event
for
the
for
the
Clarks,
but
also
a
targeted
one
for
us
to
explain
why
it
would
be
beneficial
to
to
do
that
and
become
a
little
bit
of
training
and
a
bit
TLC,
but
I'll.
E
Just
reiterate,
I
think
a
lot
of
the
communications
that
are
sent
out
not
just
from
advantage
and
stuff,
but
just
generally
are
what's
the
word
I'm
looking
forward.
C
E
Of
them
are
just
selectively
forwarded
on,
and
some
of
them
probably
don't
appreciate
why
it's
that
important
Etc
and
that
might
be
due
to
an
experience
of
the
Clarks
and
and
that's
why
we
just
need
to
get
them
all
together
and
share
the
love.
Basically,
so
that's
the
proposal
and
if
we
can
put
that
in
the
agenda
and
try
and
get
it
in
for
June
before
the
summer
holidays,
that'll
be
quite
quite
good.
A
And
counselor
slutfield.
D
If
I
could
add
on
this
one
that
we
we
did
offer
training
as
the
carrot
and
I've
heard
nothing
more
about
that
training.
I
noticed
in
the
report,
which
will
go
out
in
July
that
we're
waiting
until
we
see
whether
we've
got
any
more
people
signing
up
but
I
think
actually,
where
people
have
signed
up
to
adopt
the
code
of
conduct.
D
I
agree
totally
reported
points
about
the
means
of
accessing
parish
and
town
councils,
in
that
a
lot
of
Clerks
are
very
selective
on
topics
they
don't
understand
as
to
what
they
forward,
because
we're
actually
relying
on
the
clocks
to
sell
the
concept
to
their
parishes
and
the
fact
that
some
other
organization
that's
run
by
Basingstoke
might
have
some
problems.
If
they
don't.
If
we
don't
change,
our
code
of
conduct
is
not
enough
reason
for
a
parish
to
want
to
change.
I
think
we
need
some
examples.
D
We
need
something
that
is
factual,
that
we
can
use
to
encourage
people
to
do
so.
I
think
Lynn.
Sorry
Joe
made
the
point
about
problems
that
have
been
occurred
in
the
past,
because
if
you
do
have
a
complaint
well,
what
were
the
rules
under
which
that
councilor
was
operating?
We
don't
know,
and
if
half
you
can
take
it,
a
cup
half
full
or
cup
half
empty.
If
half
the
councilors
are
operating
to
some
different
rules,
it
does
make
things
expensive
and
difficult
for
this
organization.
D
C
Just
like
to
that,
there
might
be
a
selling
point
for
Clarks
to
be
more
interested,
because
this
current
code
of
conduct
covers
things
that
might
happen
to
them.
If
they've
got
harassment
or
bullying
concerns,
it
does
protect
them,
because
the
cancers
obviously
have
Judicial
Code
of
Conduct
means
that
they're
not
going
to
be
suffering
from
that,
so
it
will
help
them
in
any
employment
issues
as
well.
So
it
isn't
just
the
councils
that
are
projected.
C
It
is
also
the
clerk
and
the
officers
any
officers
they
employ
and
similarly
the
Borough
Council
offices
are
protected
under
our
code
for
the
borough,
so
I
think
it's
important
to
sell
that
that
Clarks
might
feel
they
haven't
got
anywhere
to
go.
But
at
least
if
they've
got
our
current
code
of
conduct
adopted,
there
is
some
basis
in
which
they
can
make
a
complaint
and
which
will
be
heard.
A
E
There
not
a
way
of
having
a
Cascade
where
you
just
get
all
the
clerks
to
join
a
call
and
present
this
to
them.
I
mean
I,
don't
know
what
this
and
how
it
works,
but
is
it?
Is
it
not
possible
to
do
that?
If
it's
urgent,
you
know
getting
everyone
on
the
Call
Mandatory
call.
You
know
it's
at
the
end
of
the
day,
it's
very
important
and
it's
it
would
be
good
just
to
do
that.
B
Thank
you,
chair,
I,
just
wanted
to
come
back
actually
because
my
recollection
was
back
in
July.
2022
we'd
put
the
training
for
Parish
councils
slightly
on
hold,
because
not
many
of
the
parish
councils
had
actually
adopted
the
code
of
conduct
the
new
code
of
conduct
at
that
point.
So
now
that
we've
got
over
half
of
them,
there's
a
much
better
number
to
actually
go
out
and
offer
the
training
too.
So
I'm
I'm
perfectly
happy
to
do
it
for
Clarks
as
well.
We
can
we
can
organize
that
and
for
the
parish
councilors
as
well.
B
A
D
Sorry
to
press
the
point,
but
this
is
a
report:
that's
going
to
go
out
in
July
published
in
July.
Surely
we've
got
time
between
now
and
July
to
have
actually
put
in
some
of
the
things
that
we're
talking
about
such
that
the
report
doesn't
say
we
haven't
done
it
yeah.
The
report
needs
to
say
we
have
done
it
and
therefore
we
should
be
discussing
now
what
the
July
report
is
going
to
say
because
it
has
achieved
not
the
situation
as
that
February
yeah.
E
D
Civility
yes,
civility
now
civility,
to
my
mind,
is
something
that
forms
exactly
within
what
we
see
in
code
of
conduct
and
what
I've
heard
of
code
of
conduct
has
been
council
is
acting
in
an
uncivil
or
an
unprofessional
way
and
I
feel
that
probably
this
report
ought
to
include
that
National
civility
campaign
to
be
referenced
within
it.
I
don't
know
what
anyone
else
feels.
A
A
B
On
that,
the
issue
that
Council
slatford
just
raised,
I'm
I
can
I
can
make
reference
to
it.
I
don't
know
how
much
how
it's
been
taken
up
within
the
parishes,
because
that's
not
really
a
Borough
Council
issue,
but
I
can
make
reference
to
it
in
the
in
the
text
of
the
the
report
and
I
can
also
amend
it
to
to
reflect
a
training
being
offered
over
the
coming
year.
Okay,
yeah.
A
No
other
comments,
so
I
would
like
you
all
to
join
me
in
reiterating
the
thanks
to
former
Paris
counselor
Les
fryer
for
his
long
service
on
the
standard
committee.
I
know
him
as
long
as
we
had
standard
committee
and
I
I
think
councilor
geography,
slimming
as
well
the
same
so
I
think
we
would
like
to
add
our
thanks
to
his
Service
Long
service
and
now
what
we
have
is
to
approve
subject
to
any
amendments
so
made
by
the
committee.
D
A
B
A
A
The
committee
is
asked
to
note
and
review
the
work
program
and
Fiona.
Please
advise.
B
Given
the
discussion
just
now,
I
wonder
if
I
add
on
to
the
June
work
program
and
update
on
parish
councils
and
training
as
well.
B
Oh,
actually,
we
could
bring
the
I've
just
noticed.
We've
got
a
June
meeting
this
year.
Haven't
we
I
can
bring
the
yes
the
final
report
to
that's
all
right.
It's
usually
in
July,
I'd
forgotten.
It's
in
June.
C
Okay
and
by
then
we'll
have
some
new
Borough
councils,
because
there's
elections
in
May
and
we
might
need
to
review
the
training,
I'm
I'm,
not
sure
how
successful
take
up
the
training
was
with
the
borough
councils
last
year.
Even
although
there
were
a
lot
of
new
ones
and
some
of
them
attended,
but
I
don't
know
that
all
of
them
did
I
think
it
again.
It's
important
that
Borough
councils
understand
what
the
standards
committee
does
and
why
they
should
not
do
certain
things,
especially
at
the
moment.
I
think
social
media
is
moving.
C
It's
all
in
the
news.
I
think
we
all
suddenly
thinking
well,
you
know,
should
we
make
sure
that
our
rules
are
still
keeping
Pace
with
all
the
social
media
changes
that
are
going
across
the
across
the
the
world,
but
obviously
the
local
government
Association
have
produced
that
and
I
know
people
are
supposed
to
know
about
it,
but
I
don't
know
that
everybody
is
and
understands
what
their
obligations
are.
C
B
Sorry,
just
to
say
that
I've
had
discussions
with
the
group
leaders
about
about
a
month
ago
and
recommended
that
this
be
made
mandatory.
The
training
on
training
code
of
conduct
be
made
mandatory,
so
as
licensing
and
planning
is.
E
A
B
So
yes,
it
will
be
this
year.
It
hasn't
previously
been
mandatory.
There's
only
been
two
mandatory
course
training
sessions,
so
it
will
going
forward.
E
Yes,
Martin's
just
come
up
with
that
belief,
so
I'm
not
going
to
take
the
credit
for
it,
but
What.
Why?
Why
don't
we
have
something
similar
in
the
parishes
for
new
councilors?
There's
like
an
induction,
you
know
a
base.
Joke
is
a
is
the
red
the
suggested
induction
for
a
new
counselor
and
have
it
listed
in
one
of
those
in
the
document
and
as
part
of
the
overall
training
and
stuff,
so
yeah
I'm
not
sure
it
could
be
doing
without
because
it's
more
of
a
localized
thing
here?
E
D
E
E
B
Instead
of
just
trying
to
so
in
relation
to
code
of
conduct,
presumably
not
everything
include
yes,
if
it's
wider
than
that,
I
think
we
need
to
have
further
discussions
really
as
because
it
won't
be
within
my
remit,
necessarily
so,
but
let's,
let's
take
it
offline.
If
you
like
and
we'll
have
a
look
at
it.
A
Yes,
any
other
comments.
You
know
questions
nope.
C
Like
can
we
put
then
in
November
that
we
review
progress
because
you
can
put
that
in
there
and
we
won't
forget
that
we
need
to
review
the
progress
of
how
many
people
took
the
training
and
whether
we
think
it
was
then,
if
there's
any
learning
so
that
we
don't
lose
sight
of
it
and
obviously
yeah
come
March
next
year.
Another
year
on,
but
yeah
it's
an
ongoing
movie.
Isn't.