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From YouTube: BasingstokeGov Cabinet - 06/12/2022
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A
Good
evening,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
welcome
to
this
evening's
cabinet
meeting
at
Basin,
secondine
Borough
Council,
a
couple
of
housekeeping
bits
and
pieces.
First
of
all,
fire
evacuation
procedures
for
this
evening's
meeting.
There
are
no
fire
alarms
scheduled
for
this
evening.
Therefore,
if
the
fire
alarm
sounds,
please
evacuate
the
building
immediately.
The
fire
exit
is
located
at
the
rear
of
this
Rim
go
down
the
stairs
and
meet
in
the
War
Memorial
Park.
A
This
meeting
is
webcast,
so
please
note
that
this
meeting
is
being
webcast
live
on
the
internet.
Please,
if
you
can
turn
your
mobile
phones
either
off
or
onto
silent.
That
would
be
much
appreciated
by
everybody
on
in
the
room.
First
of
all,
going
to
apologies
for
absence.
Do
we
have
any
apologies,
I
think
we're
all
here
very
much
any
Declarations
of
Interest
nope
brilliant.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
Urgent
matters.
I
have
one
urgent
matter.
I
would
just
like
to
bring
up
colleagues,
which
is
clearly
there
have
been
several
announcements
by
Michael
Gove
MP,
the
Secretary
of
State
and
I.
Think
it's
important
that
we
recognize
colleagues
that
we've
been
long
been
in
conversation
about
the
broken
planning
system
that
we're
trying
to
operate
within
here
as
a
local
planning,
Authority.
A
So
I
think
it
is
important
that
we
put
on
record
that
we
welcome
the
recent
announcements
by
the
Secretary
of
State
for
the
Department
of
leveling
up
housing
and
communities
to
fix
it
and
put
local
decision
makers
back
in
charge.
These
have
been
communicated,
To
Us
by
letter
as
well
as
reported
nationally.
Today,
we
are
currently
going
through
the
process
of
establishing
our
real
local
need
for
homes
and
I'm.
Pleased
to
see
that
constraints
like
the
area
of
outstanding
natural
beauty
will
now
be
recognized.
A
The
aonb
in
practice
restricts
development
on
at
least
a
third
of
the
borough,
I'm
glad
the
Secretary
of
State.
Oh
just
lost
my
page
I'm
glad.
The
Secretary
of
State
supports
our
long-held
belief
that
local
people
are
best
placed
to
decide
on
developments
in
their
area.
We
have
12
neighborhood
plans
and
I
continue
to
be
grateful
to
the
parish
councils,
who
have
supported
this
important
activity
that
keeps
localism
alive.
Central
government
are
right
to
put
this
emphasis
back
into
the
planning
process.
A
The
devil
will,
of
course
be
in
the
detail,
but
in
Basin
steak
and
Dean,
we
have
been
unjustly
punished
for
the
illogical
five-year
housing
Supply
rules
that
puts
developers
in
charge
with
no
penalties.
This
bizarre
rule
needs
to
be
removed
immediately,
as
it
does
not
take
into
account
our
recent
and
long-standing
high
delivery
rates.
I
can
only
sympathize
with
members
of
the
local
development
control
committee,
who
have
had
their
decisions
overturned
by
the
planning
Specter.
A
We
have
here
in
the
borough,
provided
approximately
40
000
new
homes
in
the
last
40
years,
and
most
people
will
say
that
that
is
too
much.
A
lot
of
people
have
moved
here
in
the
last
40
years.
They've
moved
here
because
it
is
a
semi-rural
area.
That
is
what
Basingstoke
is
it's
changing
and
it's
changing
far
too
fast
for
lots
of
people.
It's
becoming
like
a
suburb
of
London
is
a
quote
that
I
heard
recently,
and
this
is
not
what
people
want.
A
So
we
warmly
welcome
the
recent
announcements
and
I'm
sure
that
will
inform
our
work
going
forwards,
not
sure
if
anybody
else
would
like
to
pass
a
comment,
no
brilliant.
In
that
case,
let's
move
on
to
the
minutes
of
the
meeting
held
on
the
8th
of
November
2022
any
comments
or
amendments,
or
can
I
sign
them
as
a
true
and
accurate
record.
Yes,
we're
all
happy.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Then
we
have
the
item.
Five
recommendations
from
the
economic
planning
and
housing
committee,
based
on
the
work
of
its
task
and
finish
group
to
consider
the
two
motions,
one
regarding
the
preservation
of
the
character
of
villages
that
are
near
Basingstoke
and
the
other
committing
to
sustainable
development
in
conservation
areas.
Councilor
Garnett.
Are
you
going
to
deal
with
this
item?
B
So
the
item
we
have
infant
advice
is
from
the
task
and
finish
group
for
eph
prepared
a
really
detailed
Report,
with
a
number
of
recommendations
responding
to
two
motions.
One
of
the
motion
related
to
development
in
our
Villages.
The
second
motion
was
concerned
with
the
sustainability
of
our
listed
buildings
and
buildings
in
Conservation
area.
So
I
can
update
cabinet
that
work
is
being
undertaken
on
the
overall
housing
number
and
the
report
recommended
their
housing
numbers
should
be
reviewed.
Offices
undertaken
this
further
work
on
a
suitable
housing
figures.
B
The
report
makes
recommendations
on
a
special
strategy
and
what
it
means
for
villages.
The
special
strategy
and
the
amount
of
development
in
villages
work
is
to
be
reviewed
as
the
the
local
plan
progress
later
next
year.
While
this
work
is
underway,
there
is
no
further
detail.
I
can
provide
at
this
stage
and
there
were
a
number
of
recommendations
that
are
aimed
at
improving
information
on
the
council's
website
to
support
owners
of
list
buildings
or
homes
in
conservation
areas
so
that
they
can
better
informed
of
their
options
in
relation
to
the
Energy
Efficiency
of
their
homes.
B
This
has
given
the
official
offices
helpful
insights
into
the
accessibility
of
information
and
this
leading
to
changes
to
the
websites.
So
the
work,
the
offices
under
tracking
is
all
be
presented
back
to
eph,
responding
to
the
actions
from
the
task
and
finished
group
and
I
would
like
the
cabinet
to
note
that.
Thank
you,
leader,.
A
Thank
you
very
much,
councilor
Ganesh,
I,
think
from
our
previous
work
with
the
security
committee.
I
think
it
would
be
very
useful
if
we,
instead
of
dealing
with
it
directly
here,
it's
quite
a
lot
of
detail
but,
as
you
say,
going
back
and
talking
to
the
chair
of
eph
as
well
as
when
they
can
plan
that
work
in
Council
Frost
would
have
been
here,
but
sadly
he's
ill.
So
he
can't
presents
the
the
detailed
work
of
the
tossing
finish
group.
So
thank
you
for
that.
C
C
C
There's
we're
making
increased
efforts
to
improve
monitoring
and
spend
and
introduced
budget
profiling,
so
that
budget
profiles
are
full
period.
Two
are
compared
with
actual
expenditure
for
the
period
just
to
mention
some
of
the
unspends
312
000
pounds
is
accounted
for
on
with
regard
to
Home,
Improvement
Grants
and
a
lot
of
the
delay
there
has
been
caused
by
lengthier
lead
times
with
contractors
and
supply
issues.
C
Other
sources
of
capital
will
be
coming
from
the
community
infrastructure,
Levy
section,
106
developers,
contributions
and
external
grants.
Community
infrastructure
Levy
will
provide
a
significant
income
stream
in
into
the
future
and
will
allow
us
to
prioritize
investment
in
infrastructure
arising
from
new
developments,
which
is
something
that
a
lot
of
our
residents
are
very
concerned
about
when
they
are
on
the
receiving
end
of
new
housing.
C
A
D
Right,
thank
you
leader,
right
well,
I'm,
noting
on
this
report
on
page
45,
section
1.5,
forecast,
expansion,
Down
2
million
versus
budget
section
1.7,
invention
slippage
of
1.375
million
pounds
in
these
times
of
high
inflation
I
have
concerns
that
any
items
there
which
are
slipping
when
it
comes
to
their
actual
implementation.
There
won't
be
sufficient
funds
in
the
budget
to
implement
them.
D
I
was
going
to
ask
a
question
on
where
the
680k
difference
between
the
2
million,
the
1.375
million
comes
from
I
believe
that
may
have
been
answered
in
terms
of
the
lowest
cost
home
ownership
scheme
and
the
insulation
scheme.
I
do
say,
though,
that
we
should
be
as
a
council
moving
full
steam
ahead
with
an
Expediting,
any
efforts
to
alleviate
the
cost
of
living
crisis
with
regard
to
home
ownership
and
Heating
and
insulation,
because
our
people
are
hurting
out
there
and
we
need
to
take
that
seriously.
D
D
There
also
seems
to
be
a
lot
of
savings
there
and
not
not
a
lot
of
things
that
are
going
to
be
implemented
in
comparison.
So
I
understand
that
that
may
be
funded
from
another
budget,
but
I
would
like
that
reassurance
that
that
scheme
is
going
ahead
and
finally
section
4.12,
the
Norton
Community
project
and
options
appraisal
will
be
produced
this
year.
It
says
now.
This
report
relates
to
the
period
up
to
September
30th.
D
C
Thank
you
very
much
Council
McCormack
and
you
you
raised
a
good
point
about
the
impacts
of
inflation
and
obviously
it's
it's.
It's
a
consideration.
It's
a
it
in
terms
of
proper
budget
control.
If,
if
the
money
has
not
been
spent,
then
then
we
would
need
to
review
those
particular
those
particular
spends.
C
I
would
hope
in
the
case
of
of
of
schemes
that
are
are
of
importance
to
Residents
that,
depending
on
how
much
the
overspend
is,
we
would
find
the
extra
money,
but
it
is
a
discipline
that
we
need
to
exercise
as
a
council.
This
money
needs
to
be
spent
in
in
accordance
with
the
with
the
budget
program,
on
the
cost
of
living.
Point
that
you
you
make.
C
D
C
Yeah
actually
I'm
going
to
turn
to
officers
to
to
see
if
they
can,
if
they
can
bring
this
right
up
to
date,
on
that,
I
have
asked
about
this
myself
quite
recently,
but
I
think
it's
it's
best.
If
an
artist
comes
from
those
who
are
sort
of
got
their
hands
on
the
steering
wheel
on
that
one,
if
I
may
so.
A
C
C
C
The
there's
been
a
substantial
increase
in
our
treasury
management
income
of
1.24
million
pounds
because
of
the
rise
in
bank
rate,
which
offsets
to
some
extent
the
the
negative
impacts
of
inflation
income
from
many
down
investments
will
be
lower
than
budgeted
pending.
The
land
acquisition
I'm
very
pleased
that
of
the
8.44
million
Grant
received
from
central
government
for
council
tax
energy,
the
council
tax
energy
rebate
scheme
for
residents
living
in
houses
and
council
tax
bans.
C
E
E
C
A
B
We
have
a
spotting
strategy
with
us.
This
will
act
as
an
important
framework
within
which
to
make
decisions
around
parking
provision
in
the
future.
It
aligns
directly
with
the
Town
Center
master
plan,
which
is
also
on
the
edge
and
for
the
cabinet
to
consider
later
this
evening
and
provide
some
means
of
ensuring
that
we
have
the
right
level
of
parking
to
support
the
town
in
the
right
location
and
to
reflect
the
needs
of
the
different
visitors
to
the
town.
B
It
recognized
that
the
car
parking
is
an
important
part
of
maintaining
a
healthy
and
attractive
Town
Center,
which
people
want
to
visit,
particularly
reflecting
the
large
rural
Hinterland,
where
many
visitors
to
the
town
center
live.
It
also
responds
to
improvements
in
Walking,
cycling
and
public
transport
that
are
coming
forward
through
our
adaptive
transport
strategy,
which
we
consulted
earlier
this
year
and
supports
the
approach
of
reducing
emissions
as
recognized
in
our
climate
change
and
air
quality
strategy.
B
These
strategy
benefits
from
wheels
of
residents
and
the
council's
own
scrutiny
committee,
who
raised
a
number
of
issues
that
I
have
carefully
considered,
notably
some
views
were
raised
through
this
engagement
around
the
possible
impact
of
taking
away
parking
spaces
and
the
negative
impact
that
this
may
have
on
our
town
center.
While
it's
like
acknowledge
that
this
trans
I
mean
this
parking
strategy
does
provide
the
scope
to
consider
such
matters.
It
also
sets
up
consideration.
A
D
Thank
you
leader.
Well,
this
is
a
work.
You
know
quite
a
quite
a
piece
of
work.
This
looking
through
this
report.
It
was
interesting
to
note
that
over
6
000
parking
spaces,
we've
got
in
the
Town
Center.
Two-Thirds
of
them
are
in
car
parks
that
we
don't
own
Festival
place
in
Bell
station
and
of
the
18
car
parks
that
we
do
own.
Only
three
have
got
charging
facilities
for
EVS
and
I'll.
Come
on
to
that
in
a
minute.
D
D
The
concern
I
have
is
that
you're
going
to
start
closing
car
parks
and
building
on
them.
So
that's.
My
first
question
is
which
car
parks
are
you
looking
to
close
and
build
on
moving
on
to
strategy
steam,
three
sustainable
travel
provision,
you're
relying
an
awful
lot
on
the
LC,
Whip
and
Hampshire's
ability
to
deliver
on
that
improved
cycle,
pedestrian
provision?
There's
a
lot
of
challenges
in
and
around
the
very
Town
Center
itself.
D
Further
out,
we've
got
Newtown
Estates
we've
got
paths
that
we
can
upgrade
to
footpath
cycleways
we've
already
done
that
at
Brighton
Hill
looking
to
do
that
down
the
a30
corridor,
we're
looking
to
do
that
in
winklebury,
with
many
down
but
you're
going
to
have
to
implement
that
across
the
whole
of
Basingstoke
and
into
the
rural
areas
along
our
deadly
arterial.
Roads
like
the
a339
both
to
Alton
and
Newbridge,
both
pre-grim
a33
A340,
all
of
those
B3
400,
not
very
good
roads
for
cyclists,
I,
wouldn't
want
to
cycle
on
them
unless
my
life
depended
on
it.
D
Third
question
strategy
theme:
seven
EV
charging,
so
50
of
all
new
cars
will
soon
be
EVS
and
the
existing
infrastructure
we've
got
is
getting
overused.
If
you
take
a
trip
up
to
Aldi
in
winklebury.
Quite
often
you'll
see
all
four
Bays
they're
occupied
and
there
are
cars
that
can't
charge
while
they're
there,
because
the
bay
is
really
occupied.
I
see
this
as
a
growing
problem.
D
So
far,
our
rollout
of
charging
facilities
has
not
kept
pace
with
the
number
of
new
electric
vehicles
on
the
road.
A
number
of
council
members
of
electric
vehicles
now,
including
myself,
and
setting
aside
the
obvious
challenges
that
we've
got
for
on-street
charging.
One
of
the
quick
wins
we
could
have
is
to
put
in
more
charging
in
our
car
parks
that
we
own,
because
there's
no
issues
there
about
relying
on
the
county.
D
D
How
can
you
charge
relative
to
emissions?
I
can
only
really
see
a
step
change
between
electric
vehicles
and
petrol,
Diesel
and
hybrids
which
all
emit
and
when
they're
parked
it's
not
the
problem.
Your
real
problem
is
when
they're
moving
on
the
road
and
I
see
precious
little
side
of
any
strategy
from
this
Council
or
Hampshire.
For
that
matter
to
actively
tackle
the
considerable
air
pollution
problems
we
have
got
most,
notably
where
we've
got
serious
congestion.
That
peak
times
like
the
ringway
East,
which
is
known
about,
but
very
little,
has
been
done
about
it.
C
D
B
A
And
I
think
it's
really
important
that
we
pick
some
of
those
themes
up
together,
isn't
it
and
with
councilor
HS
portfolio
as
far
as
the
climate
change
there's,
also
something
about
that
conversation
with
the
County
Council.
We
should
never
forget
that
they
are
the
transport
Authority.
We
should
also
never
forget,
I
think
that,
actually
we
need
to
be
really
aware
of
transferring
burdens
that
are
currently
in
the
private
sector
to
the
public
sector.
A
We
currently
don't
expect
petrol
stations
to
be
provided
by
the
public
sector,
and
we
just
have
to
be
really
conscious
about
that,
because
I'm
not
sure
the
local
authorities
are
always
the
best
place
to
provide
EV
charging
points,
because
there's
some
legislation
that
gets
in
the
way,
if
I
thought
about
some
of
our
charging
rates
and
I
know
Andy.
You
and
I
have
had
this
conversation
before
about
having
to
change
provider
to
allow
that
to
happen,
and
that
was
a
construct
of
being
a
local
Authority.
A
C
It's
not
all
entirely
negative,
though,
generally
speaking,
it
has
been
adverse
for
the
High
Street
amongst
the
losers
have
been
department,
stores,
nightclubs,
clothes
shops
and
Banks.
All
banks
have
chosen
to
close
their
their
their
branches
and
that's
ongoing
amongst
those
whose
businesses
have
flourished
and
of
which
there
are
more
of
them
about
are
hair
and
beauty
fast,
food
and
cafes,
and
to
tourists
and
Pierces
I.
C
Think
not
that
it's
needed
that
that
report
demonstrates
the
the
Urgent
priority
for
this
Council
and
its
Partners
to
take
a
lead
in
shaping
the
future
of
our
most
important,
but
not
only
by
any
means
Town
Center.
This
report
sets
out
a
framework
to
enable
us
to
work
with
other
key
Partners
in
the
development
of
a
new
plan
for
basic
Stoke
Town
Center.
C
C
91
of
our
residents,
who
who
took
part
in
that
consultation,
set,
told
us
that
they
that
they
wanted
the
town
that
they
thought
that
the
town
needed
to
change.
There's
a
lot
of
support
and
and
strong
feeling
about
Beijing
Stoker's
Town,
that's
very
positive,
but
there's
clear
as
a
clear
view
from
residents
that
things
have
to
change
it.
Basingstoke
has
long
been
one
of
the
UK's
leading
and
most
successful
shopping
centers,
but
there
are
obvious
signs
at
the
moment
as
there
are
across
the
country
of
vacant
units.
C
This
master
plan
and
framework
puts
this
in
a
position
to
respond
to
those
many
changes
that
are
impacting
Town
centers
across
the
land
by
bringing
together
key
Partners
to
gather
around
a
deliverable
plan
to
reshape
Our
Town
Center,
so
that
its
offer
is
more
attractive
to
Residents.
Brings
people
in,
and
people
from
outside.
C
An
important
next
stage
in
this
process
is
to
bring
together
Representatives
drawn
from
retailing,
culture,
business,
the
public
and
voluntary
sectors,
land
and
landowners
to
help
in
the
work
that
now
is
now
required
to
make
this
Vision
a
reality.
I
hope
there
will
be
good
able
people
who
who
wants,
who
will
see
the
opportunity
but
understand
the
challenges
and
work
with
this
Council
in
the
years
ahead.
Thank
you.
D
Which
mentions
that
more
traditional
retail,
like
Banks
clothes
shops,
Etc,
are
on
the
decline?
I
think
that's
fairly
self-evident.
If
you
take
a
look
in
Festival
place,
the
number
of
the
empty
shops
there
are
former
clothes
shops
and
they're
less
said
about
the
banks
and
the
post
office
withdrawing
from
the
top
of
town,
the
better.
D
D
D
D
Some
of
those
things
were
in
train
as
a
result
of
demographic
changes,
smoking
bans
being
blamed
for
some
of
the
falling
trade
in
pubs.
Then
there
are
other
factors
to
do
with
Rising
costs
of
living,
and
now
it's
extremely
bad
and
a
lot
of
the
venues
in
the
Town
Center,
not
opening
on
Mondays
and
Tuesdays
now.
D
D
We've
got
Tune,
In,
Business
Park
we've
got
opportunities
in
the
Town
Center,
so
I
would
like
to
hear
more
about
that
because
in
the
past,
certainly
the
nighttime
economy
in
the
weekdays
was
driven
a
lot
by
businesses,
employers,
their
employees,
who
are
based
in
Basingstoke
or
in
some
cases,
included
into
basis
statement.
Stick
around
on
the
old
evening
for
social
drinks
meal
with
colleagues-
that's
gone
now
by
and
large,
and
we
need
to
look
at
that.
We
need
to
look
at
the
nighttime
economy.
D
We
need
to
look
at
the
daytime
economy
and
understand
what
it
is
that
will
tempt
people
back
into
Basingstoke.
Now
we've
got
a
very
large
catchment
area
and
a
lot
of
the
catchment
area
that
we
have
is
not
short
of
money.
You
know
we
look
at
some
of
the
rural
areas
within
and
without
the
borough
you
go
out
to
places
like
Hartley,
Whitney
and
further
east.
A
lot
of
those
are
within
the
orbit
of
Basingstoke.
D
Stoke
and
I
know
that
there
are
lots
of
business
in
there
that
are
trying
really
hard,
but
I
just
can't
help
thinking
that
we
should
be
giving
them
a
bit
of
a
hand
as
a
council
and
coming
up
with
some
adroit
policy
moves
and
liaising
with
our
colleagues
in
central
government
on
things
like
business
rates
and
looking
at
what
we
can
do
to
make
it
easier
for
these
businesses
to
stay
in
the
town
and
for
new
ones.
To
start
up.
Thank.
C
C
A
Thank
you,
councilor
Isaac,
it's
very
interesting
research
from
the
BBC
for
those
people
that
haven't
seen
it
I
think
it
is
bad
news
for
closed
retail,
but
we
all
know
that
it
came
as
a
very
sad
moment
when
I
saw
that
we
had
a
significant
decrease
in
fish
and
chip
shops
here
in
basinstoke
and
Dean,
something
that
perhaps
we
should
all
try
and
protect.
There
is
also
something
about
understanding
the
opportunities
that
we
have.
A
Nothing
excites
me
more
than
welcome
talking
with
central
government.
When
we
talk
about
how,
perhaps
investment
zones
could
perhaps
bring
a
university
to
Basingstoke,
if
not
one
University,
maybe
two
universities,
rest
assured,
that
is
something
that
I
take
very
seriously
to
work
on
and
before
I
go
to
the
recommendations.
Rest
assured
I'm
not
about
to
show
you
my
tattoo,
so
cabinet
members.
We
have
a
recommendation
in
front
of
us
that
the
suite
of
reports
comprising
offenses
one
to
six
to
note
in
appendix
4
is
confidential.