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A
For
the
benefits
of
the
members
of
the
public
watching
or
participating
participating
in
this
meeting,
I
would
like
to
explain
who
everyone
is.
My
name
is
councilor
Nick,
Robinson
and
I'm
chairman
of
this
committee,
to
my
right,
our
councilors,
who
will
be
making
decisions
on
the
applications
on
this
evening's
agenda.
A
The
development
control
committee
is
a
regulatory
committee,
not
a
political
meeting.
The
committee
will
be
considering
the
published
papers
examining
the
evidence
brought
before
us
tonight
and
will
make
decisions
based
on
planning
reasons.
We
are
Guided
by
national
and
local
planning
policy
and
guidance
at
the
appropriate
time.
I
will
invite
speakers
to
contribute
to
the
meeting
in
the
order
set
out
in
the
update
paper.
A
A
All
speakers
will
be
reminded
of
their
permitted
speaking
time
and
will
be
advised
when
they
have
one
minute
remaining
Maya
School
committees,
members
to
avoid
repetition
and
keep
any
comments
on
each
planning
application
to
a
maximum
of
four
minutes.
We've
got
nine
items
on
the
agenda
this
evening
and
I
hope
we'll
do
it
in
under
three
hours.
A
A
B
A
C
You,
the
parish
council,
have
carefully
considered
this
application.
Firstly,
three
points
of
order.
The
applicant
refers
to
a
retired
Borough
councilor.
This
reference
should
be
ignored,
as
it
has
no
bearing
of
influence
on
this
application.
All
Parish
Council
planning
committee
members
have
viewed
the
site
from
the
parish
field.
The
aonb
cannot
comment
on
every
application
and
their
guidance
is
clearly
published
for
the
planning
team
to
apply
the
parish.
Council's
considerations
are
as
follows.
C
This
application
must
be
viewed
in
the
context
of
a
Royal
Village
trade
streets
is
a
semi-rawal
character
that
houses
are
set
back
from
the
road
behind
boundary.
Hedges
the
properties
sit
within
large
plots
with
generous
gaps
between
buildings,
offering
a
sense
of
spaciousness
to
one
side
of
the
site.
Is
the
parish
field
gifted
to
the
parish
and
maintained
as
a
simple,
open,
Countryside
area?
It
is
not
part
of
the
applicant's
site.
The
application
represents
urbanization
of
the
countryside
that
the
emerging
neighborhood
plan
and
local
plans
seek
to
avoid.
C
Building
in
the
garden
of
the
existing
four-bedroom
house
will
leave
the
existing
property
with
almost
no
usable
Garden.
The
applicant
references
guidelines
regarding
Garden
size,
however
basal
Stokes
design
and
sustainability
document,
clarifies
it.
Building
in
this
way
is
unacceptable.
Beta
Stokes
document
confirms
the
garages
bins
car
parking
areas
of
excluded
from
amenity
space
calculations,
guidance
on
the
size
of
back
Gardens
for
houses
on
minimum
areas.
C
The
size
of
any
immunity
space
should
be
appropriate
to
the
character
of
the
dwelling.
Larger
dwellings
such
as
four
bedroom
detached
houses,
will
require
Gardens
considerably
in
excess
of
the
minimum
sizes.
The
thin
triangular
shape
of
this
plot
is
not
big
enough
for
an
additional
building.
It
is
simply
too
tight.
Indeed,
the
design
and
sustainability
document
references
the
need
for
the
character
of
raw
settlements
to
be
maintained
and
enhanced
by
ensuring
that
any
new
development
responds
positively
to
distinctive
local
characteristics.
C
The
Proposal
does
not
meet
that
requirement
in
relation
to
the
turntable
for
parking,
despite
the
internal
turntable
facility
not
being
required
for
the
proposed
dwelling
and
not
bringing
about
the
Highway's
objection.
The
highways
Authority
comment
that
car
turntables
are
generally
not
acceptable
as
a
replacement
for
sufficient
sufficient
turning
area,
as
there
are
potential
maintenance
issues
and
no
guarantee
that
the
turntable
actually
be
used.
The
need
for
a
turntable
clearly
shows
that
this
plot
is
too
small.
C
Any
visitors
to
either
house
will
need
to
park
on
the
street
opposite
a
busy
doctor
surgery
already
suffering
significant
parking
challenges.
Basal
Stoke
rightly
declined
permission
to
build
two
houses
on
a
plot
of
four
homes
away,
and
the
planning
officer
has
drawn
your
attention
to
this
in
her
report.
The
permission
to
build
a
single
bungalow
on
a
that.
Much
bigger
plot
was
also
declined
by
the
same
planning
officer,
who
cited
adverse
effect
on
visual
amenities
and
lack
of
integration
with
the
surrounding
area.
C
Within
the
context
of
an
aoab,
she
referred
to:
betens,
open
Dean's,
local
plan,
the
national
planning
policy
framework
and
the
design
and
sustainability
supplementary
planning
document.
We
accept
that
this
each
application
must
be
assessed
on
its
own
merits,
and
these
reasons
for
refusal
are
actually
given
more
more
applicable
in
this
case.
In
summary,
our
key
issues
for
this
application
are
it's
out
of
keeping
with
the
rural
aomb
location
is
that
height
is
overbearing.
C
Viewed
from
both
the
parish
field
or
the
roadside,
it
is
being
shoehorned
into
a
plot
that
will
add
no
value
to
the
street
scene.
That
will
appear
too
dense
and
now
they're
keeping
there's
one
meter
from
the
boundary
with
the
parish
field
in
this
locality.
This
is
clearly
cramming
and
overbearing.
The
residential
amenity
of
the
existing
house
will
be
severely
compromised
by
the
addition
of
another
property
in
its
garden,
and
parking
for
both
homes
will
be
compromised.
The
turntable
fails
to
address
this.
C
D
Thank
you
chair.
You
mentioned
that
the
height
of
the
building
would
be
overbearing,
but
during
the
viewing
panel
we
had
a
question
from
one
of
the
members
about
whether
it
would
the
new
house
would
be
any
higher
than
the
existing
property
and
we
were
assured
it
wouldn't
be.
So
can
you
transfer
that
Circle
for
me
from.
C
Where
the
house
will
be
and
how
tight
it
is
to
the
boundaries
of
the
property,
the
height
of
the
property
infringes
very
closely
to
the
boundaries,
as
opposed
to
being
in
a
larger
plot
set
back.
So
the
hike
is
more
clear
to
people
passing
the
property
better,
be
in
the
field
or
on
the
roadway
out
the
front.
So
it
would
look,
it
would
look
out
of
context,
foreign.
A
C
The
traffic
through
throw
is
fairly
heavy
in
both
directions
and
parking
is
quite
constrained
to
any
the
surgery
opening
in
times
and
includes
doctors
and
staff
that
aren't
able
to
park
in
their
own
surgery
parking
to
enable
patients
to
be
able
to
park
it
in
their
car
park,
so
it
gets
quite
congested
at
times.
It's
also
been
part
of
our
Parish
speed
awareness
campaign,
and
it's
highlighted
some
issues
with
speed
in
the
area
too.
A
A
E
Litigation
informatives
two
of
case
officers.
Trabash
report
confirms
that
in
accord
with
paragraph
38
of
nppf,
the
council
had
worked
in
a
positive
and
creative
manner.
With
me,
the
applicant
I
agree
by
one
proactively
offering
pre-application
advice.
Section
5,
addendum
of
the
completed
application
form,
confirms
the
advice
given
by
a
then
in
post
senior
officer
two
by
seeking
further
information
and
three
by
seeking
amendments
such
as
footprint
reduction
discussions
with
the
case
officer,
bethan
Wallington
resulted
in
an
agreed
reduction
in
overall
length
of
2.3
meters,
nearly
20
percent.
E
This
is
a
huge
reduction
by
any
standard
and
roof
height
reduction.
Roof
impact
was
initially
minimized
by
using
hip
ends
and
case
officer.
Ruth
trabash
continued
reduction
in
volume
by
taming
my
agreement
to
lower
the
ridge
of
the
roof
I.
Consider
that
both
the
case
officers
were
firm,
but
fair
and
I
would
not
seek
any
other
way
of
dealing
with
matters.
The.
E
E
The
mitigation
items
to
which
I've
referred
above
have
not
been
addressed
by
the
parish.
In
any
way,
two
none
of
the
parish
councilors
have
visited
the
site
since
the
litigation
items
were
agreed.
The
panel
who
visited
the
site
on
Friday
last
will
have
a
much
better
understanding
of
the
layout
and
the
extent
of
the
site.
E
E
There
are
no
Road
parking
facilities
allocated
for
the
surgery.
There
are
no
parking
restrictions
on
Trade,
Street
Parish
references
to
Street
gaps
are
not
based
on
fact.
Street
gaps
for
the
proposed
dwelling
are
the
largest
of
all
on
the
east
side
of
the
public
Highway.
The
emerging
neighborhood
plan
has
suffered
a
setback
in
that
an
error
was
discovered
by
the
independent,
examiner
and
remedial
what
input
was
required.
Previous
consultations
have
to
be
repeated.
This
being
the
case,
the
neighborhood
plan
still
carries
very
little
weight.
E
A
aonb
much
has
been
made
of
the
importance
of
protecting
the
aonb
I
wholly
agree
and
I'm
sure
that
officers
of
the
AMD
have
the
appropriate
authority
to
do
so.
Although
they
were
twice
invited
by
the
borough
to
comment
on
the
application
they
have
not
their
silence
speaks
volumes
in
that
they
have
made
no
objection.
If
they
had
any,
then
no
doubt
they
would
have
said
so.
They
have
had
some
16
months
to
do
it.
I
commend
the
application
for
your
consideration.
A
No
I've
got
a
couple
myself.
Your
Loft
space
is
has
got
two
very
large
Velux
Windows
shown
in
it.
How
has
that
Loft
space
accessed?
Is
it
accessed
by
a
proper
staircase
or
is
it
accessed
by
a
loft
ladder?
E
Called
what's
it
called
it's,
it's
neither
one
or
the
other,
it's
in
between
the
two,
it's
almost
vertical,
but
it's
a
ladder
which
doesn't
meet
the
building
rakes
as
a
stair.
E
A
One
mutes,
the
other
out,
so
the
same
question
you've
also
gone
to
a
lot,
an
awful
lot
of
trouble
with
this
turntable
and
if
you
park
on
that
turntable
and
you
then
have
visitors,
how
are
your
visitors
going
to
turn
their
car
around
or
are
they
going
to
have
to
reverse
out
onto
onto
trade
straight.
E
You
use
the
turntable
to
do
it.
You
use
the
parking
availability
with
the
two
turn
it
round
a
bit
and
then
one
can
move
across
the
visitor
can
come
in
then
and
use
the
turntable
and
one
of
the
internal
cars.
If
you
like,
you
can
park
on
the
drive
and
another
one
can
park
on
the
drive
as
well,
but
the
parking
requirements
for
a
two-bedroom
house
in
the
parking
SBG
say
two
parking
spaces
only
okay,
thank.
G
Thank
you
very
much
officers
I'd
just
like
to
know
there
was
an
emerging
local
plan
that
was
mentioned
or
neighborhood
planet
was
mentioned,
I'd
like
to
know
how
much
weight
can
we
give
to
it.
Thank
you.
B
And
chairman,
the
report
refers
to
the
Eastwood
High
neighborhood
plan,
which
is
still
in
the
process
of
being
prepared,
and
it's
still
going
through
examination.
I
know
that
work
extends
extensive,
Works
have
taken
place,
but
there
is
currently
a
delay
following
an
independent
Examination,
for
the
plan
to
take
into
consideration
addressing
of
the
protection
of
the
natural
nature
sites
the
nitrates
issue.
C
You
chair
just
just
some
clarification.
Please
we've
got
the
under
other
matters.
It
discusses
that
an
existing
hedge
was
removed
and
we
have
a
fence
that
would
require
planning
permission
as
it
doesn't
comply
with
development.
C
First
part
of
the
question
is:
what's
wrong
with
it.
Please,
foreign.
B
C
B
B
And
this
will
be
part
of
a
separate
planning
application
and
once
the
proposal
is
submitted,
obviously
it
will
be
assessed
and
considered.
The
fence
is
not
part
of
this
planning
application.
C
Okay,
my
second
part
is
because
the
Hedge
has
gone
and
there
is
a
fence
now
in
place
if
we
were
to
be
faced
with
a
an
application
for
a
fence
that
was
then
refused
the
sight
lines
of
the
Hedge
that
may
have
to
be
put
back
in
if
there
was
any
enforcement.
Would
that
then
compromise
the
highways
comment,
because
they've
worked
on
their
displays
out
of
a
fence
that
hasn't
got
planning
permission,
so
you
can
see
where
I'm
coming
from
is.
C
H
You
chair
for
remembering
who
I
was
I,
think
it
is
I
think
it
is
a
a
difficult
decision
that
we've
got
in
front
of
us
if
I'm
honest,
because
in
the
main,
I
I
welcome
small
dwellings
in
rural
areas.
It's
not
a
five-bedroomed
home
and
in
the
main,
that
is
what
small
rural
communities
are.
Looking
for
and
I
can
say
that
with
some
justification.
H
Of
course,
I
was
chair
of
Governors
for
Wooten
Hill,
Junior
School
for
a
number
of
years,
so
I
know
the
area
very
well,
but
I
I
do
feel
there
is
a
loss
of
amenity
in
a
large
four-bedroomed
house,
and
would
we
be
approving
a
four
bedroomed
house
with
such
a
small
amenity
space?
If
it
was
in
front
of
us
tonight
and
I,
don't
feel
we
would
be,
would
there
be
an
overbearing
effect
on
on
the
open
space
that
is
used
by
the
the
public
I
I?
H
Think
there
probably
is
I'm
not
convinced,
if
I'm
honest,
that
the
turntable
Works
without
shoehorning
it
in
there
or
shoe
warning
friends
and
and
family
coming
in
to
visit
or
or
the
residents
who
may
well
have
two
two
cars
as
there
is
very
few
public
transport
options
within
wooden
Hill,
so
I
I
have
to
say:
I
cannot
in
in
all
good
conscience,
support
the
recommendation
for
approval
as
it
stands
at
the
moment.
H
A
Thank
you,
councilor
ratigan.
Anybody
else
wish
to
code
councilor
Harvey.
I
Thank
you,
Chet
I'm
speaking
up
with
casseraticans
left
off
I.
Think
the
shape
of
the
site
presents
the
awkwardness
in
this
context
of
your
argument.
Ken,
because
if
you
look
at
the
other
development
site,
the
other
sites
in
the
location
plan,
when
you
take
the
overall
volume
of
it,
it
probably
equals
a
few
of
those
other
plots.
But
the
shape
of
the
plot
gives
the
sense
that
it's
much
smaller
and
is
crammed
on
the
site
in
exactly
the
context
in
which
you
set
the
bit
about
the
turntable
I
agree
with
that.
D
Thank
you
chair,
having
viewed
what
is
quite
a
peculiar
little
site.
I
I
personally
am
uncomfortable
about
the
application,
but
I
don't
think,
there's
any
concrete
reason
for
refusal,
so
I'm
I'm
happy
to
to
move
to
approve,
based
on
the
officer's
recommendations.
A
Being
moved
for
approval,
is
there
a
secondary,
councilor
Bose?
Okay
I
will
check
my
flight
status
in
before
we
go
to
the
to
the
vote.
I'm
coming
down
in
on
the
same
side
as
councilor,
Vatican
I
think
it's
over
development
to
the
site,
I
think
it's
too
cramped
I
think
it
leaves
insufficient
immunity
space
around
the
properties
and
I
think
it's
out,
okay
for
keeping
with
the
street
scene.
So
personally
I
will
be
voting
again
slit.
A
A
A
A
Six,
thank
you
count,
those
in
favor
of
refusal.
Please
put
your
hands
up
one
two,
three
four:
five:
six
and
those
against
refusal,
which
will
also
be
six
and
once
again
it
comes
down
to
the
Chairman's
casting
vote,
which
goes
the
same
way.
So
the
application
is
refused
a
letter.
If
you
could
confirm
the
reasons,
I
think
you're
happy
with
the
results
yep.
B
Thank
you
chairman,
so
the
reasons
to
refuels
will
be
based
on
over
development
of
the
site,
cramp
development,
not
in
keeping
with
the
area
and
impact
on
amenity
of
the
main
property
of
the
existing
dwelling
yeah.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
J
You
chair
this
is
an
application
for
the
change
views
for
ground
floor
unit
to
mixed
use,
class,
A1,
A3
and
A5
to
allow
hot
food
takeaway
and
also
the
installation
of
a
duct
to
the
Western,
South,
elevations
and
various
internal
alterations.
If
I
draw
your
attention
to
the
update
paper
and
the
slight
rewording
of
reason,
the
first
reason
for
a
refuse
or
deleting
the
word
Borough
and
the
officer's
recommendation
is
for
a
refusal.
Thank
you.
K
K
Yes
right,
the
planning
approval
of
of
the
initial
approval
was
77187
for
unit.
One
two
was
for
A1
and
A3
use.
Only
it
would
stipulate
the
opening
hours
should
be
Monday
to
Saturday
7
till
1700
1900
hours,
A
Reason
stated
protect
the
amenities
of
the
occupers
and
nearby
property.
Nothing's
changed
from
this
View
and
the
impact
of
the
residents
above
the
hours
granted.
The
co-op
are
not
comparable,
as
they
do
not
have
residence
above
A5
use
now
requires
full
planning
permission,
not
changing
use.
The
units
were
not
constructed
for
A5
use.
K
The
EHT
relies
heavily
on
flawed
noise
and
vibration
reports
and
have
failed
to
assess
the
implications.
It's
a
Volkswagen
syndrome,
if
it's
wrong,
we
fix
it
later.
Fixing
with
a
larger
motor
will
increase
noise
and
vibration.
Noise
and
vibration
report
is
based
on
estimates
and
supposition
as
to
how
the
building
could
have
been
constructed
or
materials
used.
In
this
instance,
a
noise
and
vibration
levels
state.
It
cannot
be
relied
upon
to
be
accurate
or
valid.
K
If
you
do
not
know
the
depth
and
the
thickness
of
the
walls
and
Floors,
you
cannot
determine
the
accurate
noise
and
vibration
levels.
Confining
the
extraction
motor
inducting
to
a
confined
space
will
increase
its
impact
to
the
building
the
extraction
duct
exits,
approximately
12
to
19
inches
below
our
balcony,
and
no
noise
levels
have
been
provided
at
this
point.
The
reduction
extends
at
two
meters
away
from
us
and
then
turns
through
three
times
90
degree
bends
before
returning
towards
our
balcony.
K
K
K
Eht
have
agreed
with
a
report
that
appendix
B
it
has
a
noise
level
of
33
decibels
and
is
within
guidelines,
but
this
measurement
is
from
the
balcony.
On
the
second
floor,
which
is
three
meters
away,
and
our
balcony
is
on
the
first
floor,
which
is
closer
to
the
source
and
no
measurements
have
been
provided,
I,
don't
know
why
this
location
has
been
chosen.
Is
it
to
make
sure
the
noise
is
within
the
35
decibels
that
the
council
got
of
council
guidelines?
K
The
report
states
that
at
three
meters,
The
Sound
Reduction
will
be
10
BET
decibels
because
of
the
distance
from
the
sound
at
30,
centimeters
or
12
inches.
It
would
only
be
one
decibel,
so
the
report
indicates
a
level
of
42
decibels
on
our
balcony.
This
is
higher
than
the
background
level
and
considerably
higher
than
the
council's
noise
assessment.
Guidance
of
35.
K
Based
on
what
the
acoustic
report
says,
the
assume
that
EHT
had
relied
on
the
equipment,
company,
RMG
and
they
are
based
in
leads
basic
folk
fishy
delete
delicacy-
is,
is
registered
in
these
as
well
and
Mr.
Farhat
arcade
owns
75
of
the
shares
of
both
companies,
so
that
cannot
be
deemed
as
independent.
K
If
you
walk
around
apart,
you
find
the
consistent
visual
there's,
no
external
ducting,
as
is
proposed,
so
it'll,
be
totally
out
of
keeping
and
because
of
the
closest
proximity
to
up
our
property.
The
ducting
will
be
obtrusive
and
have
an
unacceptable
impact
both
from
an
immunity,
Visual
and
noise
point
of
view.
Noise
levels
will
be
higher
than
the
background
noise
and
higher
than
the
council's
recommended
level.
K
K
J
L
There's
probably
other
things
which
haven't
been
designed
into
the
building.
So
I
just
wanted
to
know.
What
would
we
do
about
that.
L
J
I
mean
our
recommendation
is
refusal
anyway,
the
officer's
recommendation.
If
you
were
to
approve
it,
then
all
the
ducting
that's
gone
in.
If,
for
example,
there
was
an
issue
with
Oda
that
he
filters,
for
example,
in
the
duct,
have
to
be
replaced
and
that's
something
that
they
will
deal
with
under
their
legislation
under
statutory
nuisance.
There,
foreign.
I
They
actually
want
something
active
going
on
in
this
unit,
rather
than
it
being
left
vacant
and
empty,
I,
think
and
I
think
the
context
of
the
smell
and
the
purpose
for
which
the
design
of
the
unit
was
for
A1
to
A3
as
completely
different
to
a
design
that
would
be
appropriate
for
A5
is
the
Crux
of
the
matter.
So
I
think.
If
the
applicant
genuinely
wants
this,
they
need
to
go
away
and
think
far
harder
than
they
have
done
thus
far
about
how
to
make
it
acceptable.
I
G
Thank
you
very
much.
Yeah
I
read
the
papers
with
interest
and
agreed
with
the
capital
Harvey
that
it
was
interesting
to
see
the
number
of
objections
and
also
the
number
of
of
supporters
and
and
while
you
know,
I,
don't
like
seeing
aperture
retail
spaces,
I
have
to
agree
with
Council,
Harvey
and
I'll
be
happy.
The
second
emotion.
A
Thank
you.
It's
been
moved
and
seconded
for
refusal,
as
per
the
officer's
recommendation.
I
can
go
straight
to
the
vote
on
this.
Those
in
favor
of
refusal.
A
B
The
application
is
a
technical
detail,
consent
application
and
for
a
direction
of
eight
dwellings
and
we've
Associated
access
parking,
landscaping
and
private
amenity
space,
and
this
application
follows
an
application
for
permission
and
principle
which
was
allowed
on
appeal
and
that
application
was
for
up
to
nine
dwellings
and
because
that
application
was
already
allowed
on
appeal.
The
technical
detail.
Consent
is
for
the
details
of
layout
design,
access
impact
on
residential
amenities
Etc,
but
the
principle
of
development
has
been
established
through
the
permission
in
principle.
B
There
is
additional
condition
in
respect
of
levels
and
one
more
objection
letter
and
that
was
received
after
the
officer's
report
was
published
and
the
application
is
recommended
for
approval.
Thank
you,
chairman.
A
Thank
you
our
letter.
If
we
could
have
our
first
speakers,
which
is
Mr,
Palmer,
Miss,
Gibson
and
Mrs
Barton,
please.
A
Thank
you
if
you
could
confirm
which
of
the
three
you
are,
and
you
will
have
four
minutes.
I
will
remind
you
when
you
have
one
minute
remaining
and
the
microphone
button
is
in
front
of
you.
Thank
you.
M
M
May
I
ask
if
each
one
of
you
understands
why
there
are
three
sets
of
data,
identical
dates,
identical
speed
groupings,
and
yet
the
figures
are
totally
different
and
are
rather
conveniently
lower
each
time.
I,
don't
understand
why
and
nobody
will
explain
them
to
me.
It
is
not
okay
to
turn
a
blind
eye.
At
least
I
can
say
my
conscience
is
clear,
because
I
have
done
my
level
best
to
find
accountability
as
the
speeds
determine
the
splays.
The
measurements
can
no
longer
be
accurate
for
that
narrow
part
of
the
road.
M
M
M
The
houses
do
have
space
for
off-road
parking,
not
as
a
luxury
but
as
a
necessity,
because
it
is
too
dangerous
to
leave
cars
on
the
road.
The
road
is
too
narrow
in
its
entire
length
to
support
building
on
both
sides.
Yet
at
its
narrowest
Point
outside
our
house,
it
has
been
deemed
acceptable
to
consolidate
housing
yards
from
a
blind
and
fast
bend,
a
private
Car
Park
area
and
a
busy
t-junction.
M
The
Hedge
also
soaks
up
the
carbon
dioxide
from
the
traffic
using
the
road,
so
it's
playing
its
small
part
in
slowing
global
warming,
as
dictated
by
government.
Has
the
council
yet
received
a
written
request
for
the
Hedge
to
be
removed?
The
retention
of
the
Hedge
was
always
part
of
the
original
pip.
So
why
is
the
developer
so
Keen
to
rip
out
a
section
of
it?
Apart
from
the
fact
that
it
benefits
him?
And
how
big
is
that
section
going
to
be
the
Ingress
egress
Road
width
would
be
five
meters
to
fit.
M
The
splays
would
necessitate
another
five
meters
being
removed.
That
would
almost
certainly
not
give
contractors
enough
room
to
maneuver
their
Lori's
equipment
and
supplies
into
the
field,
so
even
more
would
be
nibbled
away
bit
by
bit.
Thank
you.
What
is
wrong
with
the
entrance
through
San
Martin
close?
Why
has
there
been
no
mention
of
it?
There
is
a
perfectly
good,
ready-made
Safeway
Inn
that
meets
all
the
objections.
M
We
are
not
nimby's
because
we
support
development
in
the
right
places.
There
is
simply
no
identified
need
for
housing
in
this
Hamlet.
A
huge
amount
of
time
and
money
was
spent.
Preparing
the
neighborhood
plan
to
conform
to
council,
and
indeed
government
requirements
to
identify
suitable
building
sites
locally
only
be
to
be
totally
ignored
when
an
interesting
development
proposal
comes
along.
This
strategy
would
leave
neighbors
unable
to
use
parts
of
their
own
homes
for
fear
of
being
accused
of
staring
into
people's
windows
and
Gardens,
and
that
cannot
be
right.
M
A
Thank
you
before
we
go
to
questions.
I
will
just
like
to
emphasize
something
that
our
letter
said.
The
principal
of
development
of
putting
Eight
houses
on
this
plot
was
taking
out
of
our
hands
as
appeal,
so
we're
not
discussing
whether
these
houses
should
be
built.
That's
already
been
decided
is
whether
this
is
the
right
development,
the
right
layout,
the
right
type
of
house
and
the
right
access.
A
No
okay,
I
have
one
which
is
just
driving.
Do
you
know
by
any
chance,
is
sand
Martin
close
an
adopted
Road
or
is
it
a
private
road?
Was
it
adopted
by
the
councilor
when
it
was
built.
A
N
Thank
you
chairman.
My
name
is
Mark
Pettit
and
I
work
for
Fowlers.
We
prepared
and
submitted
this
planning
application
on
behalf
of
the
applicants
of
thornacre
land
limited.
The
application
is
recommended
for
refuge
for
approval,
and
we
fully
support
this
recommendation.
Members
will
have
read
the
committee
report,
which
is
both
comprehensive
and
robust
and
sets
out
clearly
why
technical
details
consent
should
be
granted
in
this
instance,
in
line
with
the
development
plan
and
the
nppf,
as
you
will
have
seen
it
last
week's
site
visit.
N
The
application
site
is
a
natural
and
logical
location
for
a
small
residential
Development,
A
View.
That
was
supported
by
an
appeal
inspector
in
March
last
year,
when
permissioning
principle
was
granted
for
between
four
and
nine
dwellings
on
the
site.
So
we
know
the
site
is
suitable
for
residential
development.
It's
now
a
case
of
whether
this
current
scheme
is
acceptable
in
design
terms
and
ticks
all
the
necessary
boxes.
From
a
technical
point
of
view,
we
believe
that
it
does,
and
the
planning
officer
shares
this
View.
N
N
Indeed,
we've
worked
positively
with
the
case
office
over
the
spaces
from
13
months
to
get
the
scheme
in
a
position
whereby
all
of
the
technical
consultants
are
happy
and
raise
no
objection.
This
has
included
reducing
the
scheme
down
to
eight
dwellings,
from
nine
changing
the
layout
and
amending
the
design
and
detailing
of
the
houses.
N
We
now
have
a
proposal
that
has
attracted
no
objection
from
Thames
water,
landscape,
biodiversity,
Urban
Design,
environmental
health
and
the
tree
officer.
The
same
is
true
for
Hampshire
County
Council
highways,
who
are
satisfied
with
the
proposed
access
out
onto
monk
Chevron
Road
visibility
is
plated.
2.4
meters
by
43
are
in
line
with
the
speed
limit
through
the
settlement
and
the
results
of
the
speed
server
that
was
undertaken,
and
only
a
small
section
of
the
roadside
Hedgerow
needs
to
be
removed.
To
facilitate
this.
N
The
previous
appeal
inspector
was
happy
with
this,
noting
that,
even
if
the
rural
Frontage
onto
Mount
Sherman
Road
was
eroded
through
the
removal
of
mature
vegetation,
this
would
not
be
out
of
keeping
with
existing
development.
Fronting
this
part
of
the
road
in
terms
of
design,
we
feel
that
the
proposals
respond
successfully
to
the
constraints
of
the
site
and
will
fit
in
well
with
other
properties.
In
this
part
of
Charter
alley.
N
The
development
will
promote
the
use
of
vernacular
building
styles,
traditional
materials
and
a
site
layout,
which
reflects
the
character,
appearance
and
local
distinctiveness
of
Charter
rally
in
the
surrounding
area.
The
proposed
houses
will
make
a
positive
contribution
to
the
area
and
add
to
the
variety
of
properties
in
Charter
alley.
Indeed,
the
proposed
development
incorporates
a
mix
of
two
three
and
four
bedroom
properties,
including
a
bungalow,
a
pair
of
symmet
attached
dwellings
and
a
house
that
would
be
built
to
accessible
adaptable
standards.
N
The
applicants
are
also
happy
to
accept
suggested
conditions,
number,
25
and
26
to
ensure
that
the
privacy
of
adjacent
properties
is
protected
going
forward
in
terms
of
drainage,
foul
water
will
be
discharged
via
a
new
on-site
sewers
to
the
existing
Thames
water
sewer
on
monk
Sherborne
road,
while
surface
water
runoff
generated
by
the
development
will
be
attenuated
on
site
and
then
discharged
to
the
tours
on
San,
Martin
close
and
the
subsequent
Awards
course
to
the
east.
So,
in
summary,
the
site
remains
an
appropriate
location
for
a
small
residential
scheme
of
this
nature.
N
The
council
can
see
they
cannot
currently
demonstrate
five-year
supply
of
housing
land,
a
situation
that
could
become
worse
with
the
existing
nitrate
issue
in
the
borough.
In
this
respect,
the
proposed
development
would
make
a
small
bit
worthwhile
contribution
to
the
situation
on
a
site
that
is
not
within
the
Aon
b,
a
conservation
area
or
a
food
risk
Zone.
In
short,
the
proposals
do
not
fall
down
against
the
presumption
in
favor
of
sustainable
development
as
the
adverse
impacts
you
not
significantly
and
demonstrably
outweigh
the
benefits
to
the
country.
N
A
H
Mr
Petty,
a
gray
water
storage.
We
are
going
through
a
period
of
of
High
drought
at
the
moment.
Can
you
comment
on
on
that
and
what
this
site
would
bring
to
that.
N
The
applicants
are
committed
to
providing
gray
water
recycling,
air
source,
heat
pumps,
air
cooling
systems
and
the
floor
heating.
We
submitted
a
sustainability
statement
as
part
of
the
application,
which
outlines
the
types
of
things
that
the
applicant's
looking
to
incorporate
on
site
and
we'd
be
happy
to
accept
a
condition
which
required
us
to
submit
further
details.
Should
permission
be
granted.
C
N
The
landowner
would
like
to,
as
you
can
see,
on
the
site
plan:
I'm,
not
sure
you
put
the
site
plan
up,
but
on
the
site
plan
you
can
see
that
the
landowner
wants
to
retain
and
access
through
to
the
field
Beyond
which
he
will
be
retaining
in
his
in
his
ownership
of
agricultural
purposes.
So
the
intention
was
that
the
agriculture,
any
agriculture
Vehicles,
would
be
able
to
continue
to
go
along
Sun
Mountain
close
into
the
field,
and
then
the
residential
development
would
be
served
off.
Monk
Sherborne
Road
I
mean
the
inspectors.
N
The
inspectors
decisions
clear,
that
there
isn't
an
in-principle
objection
to
accessing
the
site
from
Sherborne
Road
and
what
we're
proposing
is
in
line
with
manual
for
streets.
The
visible
visibility
displays
2.4
by
43
is
what
you
are
required
to
provide
in
a
30
mile
per
hour,
limit
Zone
and
is
consistent
with
the
speed
survey
data.
So
it
and
Hampshire
County
Council
have
no
objection.
I
Councilor
Harvey
could
I
ask
the
question
regarding
the
the
allegations
on
the
speed
survey.
Just
where
do
we
stand
with
the
evidence
on
that
from
Hampshire
County
council?
Do
they
acknowledge
the
issues
that
were
presented
and
are
they
simply
saying?
No,
actually
it's
not
an
issue,
or
is
it
something
actually
that
hasn't
been
considered
foreign.
B
Information
and
the
revised
report
and
based
on
that
they
they
found
they
proposed
access
to
be
acceptable.
It's
because
of
the
visibility
space
can
be
achieved
and
the
visibility
displays
are
acceptable
for
the
speed
and
prevailing
speed
on
the
streets.
A
A
We
are
only
looking
at
the
design
of
the
houses,
the
layout
and
the
access
we
can't
refuse
and
we've
had
a
lot
of
letters.
People
wanted
to
refuse
this
application
outright.
We
can't
do
that.
That's
not
within
our
power,
so
the
design
of
the
houses
and
the
layout
within
the
site
I
just
perfectly
normal,
there's
nothing
odd
about
it.
It's
okay!
It's
the
big
issue!
A
A
C
You
just
to
add
that,
if
we're
headed
in
the
direction
of
potentially
approving
this
in
reference
to
Mr
pettit's
comments
that
the
applicant
was
willing
and
has
written
in
their
environmental
statement
or
or
thereabouts,
the
design
statement
about
air
source,
heat
pumps
and
so
on
that
are
we
able
to,
as
we've
done
on
summer,
previously
put
this
as
a
condition
that
they
comply
with
what
they
have
put
on
the
table.
Please.
O
Unfortunately,
the
ocular
Fudd
I'd
say
this
to
you
before
and
we
don't
have
a
policy
within
our
current
local
plan
that
would
be
able
to
hook
that
too.
So
we
couldn't
add
a
condition
to
that
effect
and
we
do
have
a
condition
on
recommended
in
terms
of
the
water
efficiency,
because
that
links
back
to
policy
em-9
of
our
plan.
So
there
is
that
element
of
climate
issue
that
we
can
do,
but
not
beyond
that.
G
Thank
you,
chair,
yeah,
I,
have
to
say,
I'm,
very
unhappy
regarding
this.
This
application,
because
I'm
very
torn
I,
know
that
I
was
on
the
committee
that
rejected
okay,
the
PIP,
the
first
time
and
I
I'm.
Frankly,
quite
appalled
that
we've
had
the
power
taking
out
of
our
our
hands,
and
the
only
thing
that
we
can
decide
on
is
is
effectively
the
access.
Okay,
one
of
the
things
I
I
I'm,
just
wondering,
is
with
the
access
and
and
all
the
speed
surveys
being
done.
G
Okay,
do
we
know?
Was
it
a
tabletop
survey
that
was
done
by
Hampshire,
County
Council
or
whether
it
was
an
actual?
You
know
sort
of
a
visit?
G
Okay,
if
it
was
a
tabletop
exercise,
then
I
have
to
say
that
I'm
I'm
very
concerned,
because
it
seems
to
be
at
the
the
thinnest
Point,
okay,
the
narrowest
point
of
of
of
of
of
the
road
and
I'm
just
wondering
whether
there
will
be
any
way
of
of
if
we
were
to
reject
this
okay,
whether
the
access
could
be
moved,
okay
to
to
make
it
more
acceptable,
yeah,
and
so
so
I'm
I'm
very
torn
by
this.
Thank
you.
A
Looking
on
the
plan
moving,
the
access
one
way
is
going
to
bring
it
nearer
the
bend
and
reduce
the
visibility
display
and
moving
it.
The
other
way
is
going
to
put
it
nearly
nearer.
The
Junction
I
think
we
are
really
are
stuck
with
the
decision
that
none
of
us
like,
because
we
turned
this
whole
site
down.
We
didn't
want,
we
didn't
as
a
committee
we
didn't
want
it
developed.
We've
been
overruled
on
that
and
it
comes
down
to
on
the
basis
that
we've
been
overruled
on
the
fact
that
it
is
being
developed.
A
As
I
said,
our
hands
are
tied
and
on
that
basis,
I
am
going
to
move
for
approval
in
line
with
the
officer's
recommendation.
Councilor
Frost.
G
Thank
you,
chair
I,
too
I'm
I'm
against
this
and
I'm
I'm,
certainly
appalled
that
I'm
even
having
to
say
this,
but
our
hands
are
completely
tired:
I,
don't
like
the
access,
okay,
but
reluctantly,
and
it
is
with
extreme
reluctance,
I'll.
Second,
your
motion,
because
I
don't
think
we've
got
anywhere
else
to
go.
A
B
And
the
recommendation
was
to
approve
subject
to
condition
and
legal
agreement.
B
I
Can
we
just
have
it
noted
and
thanks
to
our
officers
for
presenting
the
report
on
the
fact
that
we
do
not
have
a
Hampshire
Canada
council's
representative
here
this
evening
to
assist
this
committee
as
usual?
They
have
chosen
not
to
be
here,
but
our
officers
are
here
doing
their
job
for
them
and
I
completely
and
thoroughly
object
to
that.
Because
of
the
issues
that
you've
raised.
A
J
Thank
you
chair.
This
is
a
retrospective
application
for
the
retention
of
10
telescopic
floodlights,
with
a
maximum
height
4.6
meters.
Each
pole
has
two
floodlights
on
it.
I
draw
your
attention
to
the
update
paper
and
the
viewing
panel
report
and
there's
clarification
that
the
agent
gave
us
in
terms
of
the
poles
and
that
there's
two
floodlights
per
pole
and
also
in
terms
of
the
level
of
Illumination,
because
you
have
two
floodlights
in
each
pole.
It's
actually
two
times
one
four,
eight
two,
two
lumens
the
officer's
recommendation
is
still
for
approval.
P
Good
evening,
good
nickel
hear
me
good,
thank
you,
I'm
a
parish
councilor
from
lavastoke
and
free
folk,
Parish
Council,
and
my
name
is
James
together
with
Andrew.
We
are
here
in
our
capacity
from
the
PC
and
also
as
landlord
and
licenser
for
the
whitchurch
tennis
club.
Unfortunately,
we
are
objecting
to
this
application
and
we
ask
you
to
do
the
same.
The
high
intensity,
modern
lighting
that
is
currently
installed,
we
feel,
is
out
of
context
of
the
area.
P
It
is
a
rural
Hamlet,
with
low
intensity,
Street
lighting,
surrounded
by
mature
trees
in
a
Conservation
Area
out
within
a
grade
two
listed
Park.
Whilst
the
application
seeks
to
reinstate
historic
lights,
it
should
be
understood
in
the
context
of
the
application
that
the
light
ceased
to
be
used
prior
to
the
year
2000.
P
The
light
usage
was
infrequent
and
due
to
the
age
and
Technology,
the
level
of
intensity
and
light
spread
was
far
less
intrusive
than
we
currently
have.
The
proposed
lighting
is
a
substantial
upgrade
to
the
long
distance
lighting
and
we
would
contend
this.
Application
should
be
treated
as
a
new
development
in
a
Conservation
Area.
P
P
Indeed,
the
time
of
year,
which
the
lights
will
be
used,
the
most
in
the
winter,
they
will
have
the
most
impact
on
the
residents
facing
onto
the
tennis
courts.
There
are
mature
trees
surrounding
this
park
that
would
currently
afford
some
level
of
natural
protection
in
the
winter.
Those
trees
will
lose,
their
leaves,
we'll
have
longer
nights
and
the
the
light
intrusion
will
be
there
when
the
lights
were
first
installed
and
used
back
in
March
2021.
P
They
unfortunately
weren't
appropriately
commissioned
and
light,
was
glaring
directly
into
residence,
front,
bedrooms
and
front
rooms,
and
this
has
resulted
in
a
great
deal
of
ejection
and
resentment
from
the
local
residents,
as
it
may
be
of
interest.
But
the
lights
that
are
installed
are
not
approved
by
the
law
and
Tennis
Association,
and
the
application
would
potentially
set
a
precedent
for
other
areas
of
the
sports
field.
So
we
don't
feel
it
should
be
considered
in
isolation
as
landlord
and
licenser.
We
also
object.
P
The
PC
had
a
discussion
with
the
tennis
club
about
a
proposal
for
the
lights,
and
we
were
presented
with
a
technical
specification.
They
showed
a
3D
photo
simulation
that
didn't
show
any
impact
on
the
residents
or
the
surrounding
area
that
at
the
time
we
felt
was
considered
to
be
in
line
with
historic
use.
P
We
have
tried
to
be
proactive
and
help
with
the
angling
of
the
lights
and
mocking
up
of
additional
temporary
cows.
Whilst
these
did
reduce
the
extreme
glare
they
didn't
resolve.
The
issue
of
Illuminating,
the
properties
in
front
of
the
courts
or
the
surrounding
mature
trees
has
the
effect
of
bouncing
light
back
around
the
park.
P
When
the
retrospective
planning
application
was
published
in
2021,
it
became
evident
that
the
specification
for
the
lights
was
different
from
the
one
that
we
had
approved.
The
total
number
of
lumens
the
light
output
is
297
000
versus
145
000
that
we
had
approved.
That
is
double
it
also
shows.
There
are
two
lights
per
pole
rather
than
one
light
purple.
P
P
P
In
summary,
both
the
light
specification,
the
number
of
fittings
and
the
impact
and
spread
of
the
lights,
the
surrounding
Conservation
Area
and
the
Residential
Properties,
together
with
the
intended
hours
of
use,
have
not
been
approved
by
us
as
the
landlord
or
licenser,
and
we
do
not
feel
the
club
have
permission
to
use.
The
lights
in
their
current
form
promise
foreign.
Q
You
mentioned
you've
you've
seen
some
details
of
the
fittings.
Have
you
actually
seen
any
documentation
which
has
been
assigned
to
say
it's
been
installed
with
the
law
and
Tennis
Association
or
the
chartered
Institute
of
Building
Services,
engineer,
recommendations,
foreign.
D
Thank
you
chair.
You
said
that
they've
made
it
clear
to
you
that
they
want
to
use
it.
Seven
nights
a
week
is
that
they
will
use
it
seven
nights
a
week
or
is
that
they
want
the
opportunity
to
do
so,
because
the
fact
that
they
can
use
it
seven
nights
a
week
with
your
permission
doesn't
mean
it
will
happen
any
more
than
twice
a
year
that
they
initially
said.
For
example,.
P
I
think
I've
grasped
it.
Andrew
might
want
to
overrule
me.
Yes,
we
run
the
understanding,
it
was
Tuesdays
and
Thursdays,
it
was
club
nights
and
then
occasional
competition
nights
I
think
they're
up
to
12
a
year.
So
we
expected
him
to
be
104.
R
Plus
12.
yeah-
that
was
our
expectation
as
for
whether
they
they
want
to
use
it
for
a
full
seven
nights
a
week
or
year,
we're
not
100
sure
of
their
intentions.
I
think
it's
best
to
clarify
that
with
the
Tennis
Club.
A
A
S
Oh
good
evening,
I'm
going
to
focus
on
three
key
issues.
First
of
all,
Richard
Tennis
Club
broke
the
law
in
installing
lighting
without
planning
permission,
they
ignored
LTA
Guidance.
The
lighting
is
not
that
recommended
for
Rural
settings.
They
broke
the
trust
and
Goodwill
between
themselves
and
as
the
landlord
and
host
community.
S
Secondly,
the
environmental
impact
has
been
ignored.
Despite
evidence
applied
to
the
council
concerning
environmental
impact
and
the
necessity
requirement
and
request
for
an
environmental
survey.
No
such
exercise
has
been
carried
out.
Lavastoke
evenings
are
characterized
by
Dark
Skies
abundant
nocturnal
wildlife
and
quiet,
enhancing
its
conservation
status.
Artificial
lighting
potentially
destroys
this.
S
Lastly,
the
parish,
council
and
majority
Community
vehemently
opposed
this
unsuitable.
Nighttime
development,
placing
the
demands
of
whitchurch
tennis
club
on
the
entire
Village
of
lavastoke,
its
environs
homes
and
Wildlife,
is
unjust,
unfair
and
unsuitable
breaking
the
law,
ignoring
environmental
impact,
a
major
local
opposition.
How
can
you
defend
your
decision
if
you
approve
it?
How
does
this
comply
with
your
own
guidelines?
Chris.
T
This
application
fails
to
meet
the
council's
own
planning
criteria:
outdoor
tennis,
court
accessibility.
There
are
flood-lit
facilities
in
Overton
within
the
10-minute
time
frame.
The
clean,
neighborhoods
and
environment
act
2005
an
environmental
protection
act
1990,
like
pollution,
can
now
be
designated
as
statutory
nuisance
where
it
affects
the
neighbor
living
opposite
the
courts.
I
can
assure
you
that
it
does
landscape
biodiversity
and
tree
supplementary
planning
document
concerning
the
impact
of
the
effects
of
Lights,
especially
any
strong
floodlighting
on
important
nocturnal
species
such
as
bats.
No
bat
survey
or
environmental
survey
has
been
done.
T
The
biodiversity
response
to
the
application
asks.
Can
the
applicant
also
confirm
that
the
lighting
will
be
in
line
with
recommendation
from
the
back
conservation
trust?
There
has
been
no
such
conservation
confirmation.
The
biodiversity
officer
also
stated.
We
need
to
be
sure
that
the
works
will
not
result
in
an
offense
under
the
regulation,
41-1
of
the
conservation
of
habitats
and
species
regulations
2017..
In
our
view,
it
does
the
home
to
our
quiet.
Rural
Hamlet
far
outweighs
any
benefits,
none
of
which
crude
or
residents
the
disingenuous
approach
of
the
tennis
club
has
been
reprehensible.
T
U
A
U
I'm
not
going
to
go
back
over
anything
that
you've
got
in
your
papers.
I
just
wanted
to
add
a
few
aspects
to
it.
From
a
very
personal
perspective,
as
an
active
sports
coach
myself,
I
can
understand
the
desire
to
approve
opportunities
for
participation
and
fertilities
for
its
members.
Anyone
wants
to
do
that,
but
I
hope,
whatever
I
do
is
in
conjunction
and
with
consideration
of
the
local
community
and
the
impact
it
has
on
them.
U
Covert
has
shown
us
the
importance
of
physical
activity
on
our
health
and
well-being,
and
there's
no
doubt
about
that,
but
it's
also
taught
us
about
respect
and
tolerance.
So
that's
respect
for
ourselves,
respects
for
our
neighbors
and
respect
for
our
community
when
visited
by
the
tennis
club
on
the
10th
of
April.
Just
after
the
lights
have
been
installed,
I
was
told
the
lights
would
only
be
used
twice
a
week
and
play
would
be
finished
by
nine
o'clock.
U
That
being
the
case,
if
the
plan
is
the
application
will
be
submitted
to
that
basis,
I
probably
would
not
have
rejected,
but
to
me
365
days
a
year:
okay,
we'll
do
it
until
10
p.m.
It's
not
something!
I
can
support
I've
not
seen
a
development
plan
for
the
tennis
club.
However,
councilor
mate
Linda
said
that.
A
U
A
A
Okay,
I
have
one.
If
you
could
show
your
microphone
off.
One
microphone
makes
another
one
out,
so
it
Causes
Chaos
without
Brazil
recordings.
A
S
S
A
A
V
Set
it
there,
yeah
am
I
on
hello
good
evening,
I'm
Emma,
Longton
I'm,
the
welfare
and
safeguarding
officer
at
whitchurch
tennis
club,
which
church
Tennis
Club
is
a
non-profit
making
organization
run
by
volunteers
and
accessible
to
all.
Our
membership
is
68
pound
a
year
and
just
10
pound
for
juniors
we're
an
inclusive
club,
and
we
weigh
fees
on
occasions,
as
we
have
done
recently
for
Ukrainian
refugees
who
have
moved
into
the
area.
So
why
do
we
need
lights
in
the
summer?
Children
can
play
after
school
and
adults
can
fit
in
a
match
after
work.
V
However,
the
summer
season
is
short
by
the
end
of
September.
The
sun
will
be
setting
well
before
7
pm
and
low
level
lights
mean
we
will
play
we'll
have
to
stop
a
while
before
they're,
due
to
due
due
to
visibility
without
lighting
school
children
and
working
adults
are
effectively
limited
to
weekend
play
for
most
of
the
year.
No
after
work
matches
no
after
school
clubs,
it's
hard
to
fit
a
busy
club's
play
into
a
weekend,
whilst
for
many
families
the
weekends
are
full
of
other
activities.
V
So
why
can't
people
play
on
other
lit
courts?
Most
clubs
with
lighting
are
private
clubs
and
Beyond
the
budgets
of
many
families.
Also
working
parents
often
do
not
have
the
time
to
Ferry
their
children
to
after
school
clubs
which
aren't
local
or
indeed
play
themselves
working
with
lava,
Stoke
and
free
folk
Parish
Council.
Historically,
we
have
had
a
great
relationship
with
the
lfpc
we
were
invited
and
then
persuaded
by
the
lfpc
to
move
to
lavastoke
Lane
in
2011
to
help
keep
the
portal
Sports
area
a
sports
area.
V
We
gave
up
one
of
our
Courts
for
the
lfpc
to
establish
a
hard-standing
play
area
for
their
community
and
work
with
them
in
2019
to
secure
an
LIF
Grant
from
basing
Stoke
and
Dean,
which
we
built
a
junior
court
and
hitting
wall
which
is
open
to
all.
One
of
the
conditions
of
the
grant
was
to
increase
membership
and
run
coaching
sessions.
Lights
will
help
us
achieve
both
these
aims
by
making
our
courts
more
usable
throughout
the
year
we
approached
the
Paris
Council
regarding
floodlight
in
the
courts
in
the
spring
of
2020
in
September
2020.
V
Following
various
discussions
and
meetings,
including
inviting
local
residents
to
see
our
plans,
we
were
given
the
go-ahead
by
the
lfpc
by
email
to
install
retractable
lights.
The
parish
council
even
recommended
an
electrician
who
installed
them
in
March
2021,
having
consulted
with
the
parish
council.
Already,
we
were
surprised
to
be
met
with
some
opposition
to
the
lights
when
they
were
first
used.
However,
we
were
Keen
to
address
the
concerns
of
the
local
community
and
knocked
on
the
door
of
everyone,
overlooking
the
tennis
courts
to
hear
their
views
and
to
try
and
accommodate
them.
V
This
led
to
a
month
of
testing
with
different
angles
of
the
lights
and
at
the
tennis
club
suggestion
and
expense
the
use
of
cows.
The
cows
were
designed
with
the
help
of
the
then
chairman
of
the
lfpc
in
May
2021.
We
were
advised
that
we
should
apply
for
retrospective
planning
permission
at
the
request
of
the
lfpc.
V
The
planning
permission
applied
for
was
to
use
it
just
until
10
pm
at
night,
although,
although
we
were
advised
by
basin's
token
Dean
that
we
could
use
the
lights
while
the
decision
was
pending,
we
chose
not
to
out
of
respect
for
the
Democratic
planning
process.
We
have
continued
to
meet
with
members
of
the
parish
council
and
also
attended
an
open,
Parish
meeting
to
hear
concerns
of
residents.
V
So
in
summary,
we
appreciate
the
rural
nature
of
the
courts.
The
lights
will
only
be
extended
and
switched
on,
but
their
courts
are
being
used.
It
is
unlikely
that
they
will
be
used
in
June
and
July
and
rarely
used
in
May
and
August.
The
winter
traffic
will
be
no
more
than
the
summer
traffic
because
we
only
have
two
Courts
at
witches:
ten
whitchurch
tennis
club.
We
believe
in
giving
every
child
a
chance
to
become
the
next
Emma
radnikano
or
Andy
Murray,
whilst
also
enabling
those
not
so
gifted
to
have
some
fun
and
exercise.
V
This
is
in
line
with
the
Basingstoke
Sports
Council
objectives
and,
as
the
recent
pandemic
has
shown
us,
it's
important
for
physical
and
mental
health
and
well-being
for
whitchurch
tennis
club,
and
there
are
190
members
which,
at
tennis
club
need
to
play
its
part.
We
need
all
year
round
access
to
play
on
courts
that
everybody
can
reach
and
afford,
and
for
this
we
need
lighting.
W
It's
it's
a
very
well
trodden
and
well-known
path
with
lights
and
Tennis
clubs
that
you
need
planning
permission
and
anyone
in
installing
lights
would
also
advise
you
of
that
and
I
speak
as
a
past
chairman
and
Secretary
of
the
Walton
Hill
Sports
Club,
where
we've
got
Lighting
on
three
corners.
There
was
no
one
on
your
committee
aware
that
you
basically
needed
planning
and
permission
to
undertake
an
activity
such
as
this.
X
D
You
chair,
we've
heard
from
other
speakers
tonight
that
they
were
being
lied
to,
but
by
presumably
yourselves
about
the
number
of
days
that
you
would
use
it.
The
number
of
lights
that
were
going
to
be
installed,
the
total
Lumen
output.
Do
you
have
any
comment
on
that
is:
has
a
lie
been
told
at
any
point?
No.
V
A
lie
has
not
been
told
during
the
process
of
the
of
the
month
where
we
were
trying
to
get
the
cows
and
the
angles
right.
We
said
that
we
would
only
use
it
on
a
Tuesday
and
Thursday.
We
had
permission
by
email
after
consultation
with
the
lover,
Stoke
Parish
Council,
and
there
was
no
limit
on
the
days
that
we
were
doing
them.
To
be
perfectly
honest,
we
couldn't
really
afford
or
put
it
through
our
committee
if
it
was
only
two
nights
a
week,
because
it's
an
outside
Court,
we
can
only
play
when
it's
not
icy.
V
C
Good
evening
in
getting
the
lighting
set
up,
did
you
take
any
design
advice
from
lighting
companies?
Did
somebody
work
it
all
out?
Is
there
have
you
got
some
sort
of?
Well,
we
don't
need
to
see
the
documentation,
but
you've
got
a
design
that
you
work
to.
X
We
used
a
professional
Lighting,
Company
DACA
and
they
have
installed
these
these
lights.
On
a
number
of
tennis
courts,
I
went
to
visit
one
near
billingshurst
to
see
them
firsthand
I'm,
not
a
light
engineer
and
the
first
night
they
were
turned
on.
They
were
at
the
incorrect
angles,
which
is
something
we
corrected
straight
away
and,
as
you've
heard
from
my
colleague,
we've
gone
to
the
extra
expense
of
putting
towels
on
to
reduce
glare.
A
X
Probably
not
because
the
the
lights
are,
are
the
lights
and
and
we'd
have
redress
if
we
hadn't
been
able
to
change
the
angles,
but
we
can
change
the
Angles
and
and
the
cowling
has
reduced
the
glare
which
you
know
the
site
was
visited
by
environmental
health
when
the
lights
were
on
and
and
they
were
happy
with
them.
X
G
Thank
you,
chair
I'm,
looking
at
appendix
a
page,
199,
okay
and
the
the
parish
council
say
that
the
original
proposed
spec
lighting
spec,
which
was
presented
to
Parish
Council
in
August,
2020
and
agreed
in
September
22.,
there's
10
lamps
at
199
watts,
each
okay
and
what
was
installed
was
20
lamps
at
100
watts.
Each
can
you
explain
the
difference.
X
X
The
original
discussions
that
the
light
technology
improved-
it
was
the
the
correct
light.
So
what
we
were
in
the
application?
Sorry,
the
the
planning
application,
but
it
was
discussed
and
worked
with
the
the
then
chairman
of
the
lavastoke
and
free
for
Oak
Paris
council
with
the
cows.
He
actually
made
some
temporary
ones
for
us
to
work
on
and
was
happy
with
them
and
gave
us
the
go
ahead
to
get
the
cows
at
the
existing
lights.
Z
Good
evening
development
committee
I
want
to
take
this
opportunity
to
provide
my
support
to
the
application
presented
this
evening.
The
opportunity
to
play
tennis
in
the
evenings
and
into
the
winter
months
is
important
to
maintain
the
interest
of
members,
particularly
younger
players.
Lavastoke
has
a
sporting
Legacy
from
the
long
association
with
portals
developing
the
facility
should
be
considered
a
positive
step.
I'm
encouraged
to
hear
that
membership
has
continued
to
grow
at
church,
Tennis
Club
since
pre-covered
times,
given
the
recent
investment
into
the
new
courts
and
surrounds
in
2018-19.
Z
The
permitted
use
of
floodlights
will
extend
the
usefulness
of
this
sporting
facility
and
contribute
to
the
continued
Financial
viability
of
the
tennis
club
and
provision
of
sport
and
Recreation
within
our
Ward,
whilst
I
support
the
application.
I
am
not
ignoring
the
objections
from
neighboring
properties
concerned
about
overspill
of
lighting
into
their
homes
and
the
street
scene.
I
was
not
a
counselor
when
this
application
came
forward.
So
it's
been
difficult
for
me
to
understand
where
the
communication
breakdown
between
the
parish
council
and
which
church
Tennis
Club
has
come
about.
Z
I
hope
that
the
committee
approved
these
plans
so
that
myself
and
the
other
Ward
councilors
can
continue
working
with
lavastoke
and
free
folk,
Parish,
Council
and
whitchurch
Tennis
Club
to
get
the
relationship
back
on
track.
Councilor,
Steve,
Williams
and
I
attended
a
meeting
last
week
with
both
parties
to
re-establish
dialogue
and
we're
all
confident
of
a
reasonable
compromise
and
a
good
outcome
for
everyone
involved.
But
obviously
this
is
a
regretful
situation
tonight
to
have
to
be
here.
A
Okay,
councilor
Asheville,
if
the
AE
condition
was
put
on
this,
if
if
it
was
approved
and
a
condition,
the
condition
at
the
moment
is
up
until
10
o'clock
at
night.
If
those
operating
hours
were
reduced
to
a
much
earlier
time,
say
I,
don't
know
seven
or
eight
o'clock
at
night.
How
would
you
feel
do
you
feel
that
would
be
an
appropriate
compromise
which
are
the
very
early
evening?
Z
I
think
permission
being
granted
on
on
this
application
means
that
we
can
go
away
and
re-engage
both
parties
together.
The
fact
of
the
matter
is
that
the
the
parish
council,
our
landlord
and
and
license
the
the
whitchurch
tennis
club
to
use
the
courts
and
and
can
really
control
whether
or
not
the
tennis
club
have
access
to
electricity
to
turn
them
on.
Z
So
getting
this
permission
is
really
just
the
first
stage
that
the
two
parties
then
need
to
go
back
and
I'm
sure
that
whitchurch
Tennis
Club
want
to
operate
in
partnership
with
the
parish
council.
It's
a
dreadful
situation
for
everybody
to
be
in
I'm
sure
both
parties
are
sat
here
tonight.
Listening
to
me
and
thinking
it's
easy
for
her
to
say
she
wasn't
here
when,
when
this
application
came
forward,
I
hope
it's
not
naive
of
me
to
think
that
we
can
start
from
scratch
to
re-engage
and
to
have
a
a
constructive
conversation.
A
D
Oh,
thank
you,
chair.
There's,
a
image.
That's
floated
by
a
few
times
over
the
lights
taken
from
one
of
the
houses
opposite.
Do
you
know
when
that
was
taken,
because
one
of
them
looks
exceptionally
bright
and
I'm
wondering
if
that
was
prior
to
the
adjustment
or
the
installation
of
the
cowls
foreign?
A
Sorry,
there's
no
dialogue
with
members
of
the
public
once
questioning
has
finished
and
questioning
has
finished.
So,
if
you
could,
please
leave
counselor
Howard
Saul
to
say
what
he
wishes
to
say.
D
Well,
yeah
right,
as
I
said,
I
was
wondering
if,
if
we
know,
if
that's
after
the
the
cows
were
insulted,
if
you'd
have
information,
that's
fine
I,
possibly
should
have
asked
you
earlier,
but
that
that
just
to
me
seems
exceptionally
bright.
I
think
there's
another
one
that
looks
even
worse
than
that
yeah
that
one
that's
it
if
that's
post,
cowl
installation,
post
adjustment
of
angle,
that
is
a
problem.
J
G
Thank
you
chair.
It's
just
a
a
quick
one,
really
obviously
I'd
like
to
give
you
know:
councilor
Ascot
Ashcroft
as
much
time
as
we
possibly
could.
Okay
to
try
and
repair
the
relationship
between
these
two
parties
and
I'm,
just
wondering
okay.
What
would
be
the
the
maximum
amount
of
delay
that
we
could
give
with
this
planning
permission
in
order
to
allow
her
to
act
as
an
intermediary
between
the
two
parties.
J
If
I
could
just
confirm,
what's
before,
you
is
the
retrospective
retention
of
those
lights,
it's
the
planning
system
is
not
there
to
allow
for
dialogue
between
two
parties
where
it's
broken
down.
I
would
say
and
repeat,
I
think
that
what
the
counselor
has
said
at
the
end
of
the
day,
that
the
parish,
who
have
the
overall
control
in
terms
of
that
they're,
the
landlord
and
they
control
the
sports
club
there
and
it's
a
matter
really
between
them.
It
sits
outside
the
planning
system.
J
So
before
you
tonight
is
whether
those
act,
those
lights
are
acceptable.
The
fact
that
they're
retrospective
is
is
not
relevant
either
for
your
determination
tonight,
either
foreign.
C
So
can
we
is
it
possible
that
we
could
produce
a
condition
that
would
have
the
applicant
undertake
a
design
or
a
conversation
with
the
supplier
to
actually
address
these
issues,
to
see
what
could
be
done.
O
Yeah,
no,
no,
and
no
we
couldn't
do
that.
I
mean
you
need
to
make
a
decision
on
the
application
before
you
you
may
you
could
possibly
consider
a
temporary
permission,
but
that's
not
what
the
application
is
before
you.
You
really
need
to
make
a
decision
on.
What's
here.
J
The
other
thing
is:
if
you're
going
to
consider
a
temporary
consent,
you'd
have
to
consider
the
reasons
why
you're
doing
it.
Why
is
it
necessary,
as
the
officer's
report
States
here,
there
is
no
statutory
light
nutrients
according
to
the
environmental
health
officers,
you
would
have
to
establish
why,
if
you
considered
a
temporary
consent,
what
would
it
achieve?
D
D
Is
that
from
it
doesn't
look
like
it's
come
from
out
of
a
window
that
looks
like
they
may
be
stood
low
down
on
their
driveway
and
I
know
the
houses
were
uphill,
so
it
might
look
exceptionally
bright,
but
it
might
just
be
really
bright
at
the
bottom
of
their
driveway
and
then
you
know
not
actually
be
that
bright
in
the
windows.
Again,
that's
not
the
worst
of
the
two
images
that
one's
not
so
bad.
That
one
seems
like
it's
taken
from
lower
down
and
it's
a
lot
brighter
do.
D
J
D
I
mean
a
picture's
meant
to
tell
a
thousand
words
so
anyways.
In
that
case
there
we
go
question
answered
my
other
question
would
be.
Can
we
postpone
our
decision?
I
can't
remember
what
the
exact
terminology
is
in
order
to
allow
the
commission
of
a
wildlife
survey,
as
was
mentioned
by
some
people
this
evening,.
C
Tomlin,
okay,
so
a
next
question:
if
we
refuse
the
application,
what
would
be
the
time
scale
that
the
applicant
would
have
to
remove
the
polls
and
thus
had
time
for
another
application
to
come
back
in.
F
W
Thank
you,
chair
can
I
just
clarify
this
application.
Is
it
for
365
days
a
year
and
used
until
10
o'clock
at
night.
J
Yes,
potentially,
if
you
had
perfect
playing
conditions
as
the
applicant
suggested
that
it
was
not
wet
windy,
snow
in
icy
and
then
potentially,
yes,
you
would
have
365
days
between
those
hours.
So
you
could
use
the
lights
between
the
hours
of
4
and
10.
foreign.
W
Yeah,
it's
been
unfortunate
that
we've
got
to
this
position,
I
think
and
as
I
say,
I
haven't
been
chairman
and
secretary
for
35
years
and
a
trustee
of
a
tennis
club,
it's
a
very,
very
well-known
path
with
the
LTA
in
terms
of
advice
on
what
you
should
do.
If
you're
going
to
put
floodlights
onto
a
tennis
courts,
there's
a
tremendous
amount
of
stuff
there.
So
it's
a
great
surprise
the
lighting
contractors
didn't.
W
Should
we
say
pick
that
up
it
in
terms
of
the
the
issue
is
the
light
pollution,
so
you
don't
need
to
enforce
removing
poles.
What
you
enforce
is
they're
not
used,
and
likewise,
when
an
installation
is
done,
it's
it's
a
non-trivial
exercise
putting
the
power
supplies
where
you
have
the
cutoffs
at
10
o'clock.
So
you
can't
abuse
your
planning
permission.
W
I
are
not
dependent
upon
people.
Switching
it
off
Etc,
so
I
think
it's
a
it's.
I
have
a
bit
of
a
quandary
because
obviously
I'm
very
pro
tennis,
but
in
this
situation
it
needs
a
bit
more
professional
advice
to
turn
this
into
a
an
acceptable
facility
where
everybody's
happy
and
that's
something
we've
had
for
40
years
at
Walton,
Hill.
I
You
chair
earlier
this
evening
we
had
an
application
that
created
a
significant
debate
and
our
hands
were
tied
by
the
planning
laws
and
the
planning
rules
that
we're
supposed
to
follow.
I
It
happens
most
meetings
when
we're
faced
with
these
difficult
decisions.
Sorry
sorry
wrong.
I
say
earlier
this
evening
we
had
an
application
where
members
were
angst
over
the
planning
laws
and
the
planning
rules
being
applied
to
a
particular
application
and
again
we're
Guided
by
them
saying
those
same
rules
and
those
same
laws.
The
application
before
us
as
written
is
what
we've
got
to
judge,
not
how
we
would
like
it
to
be
not
how
we
would
think
it
should
be
it's
how
it
actually
is
before
us.
I
We
have
a
biodiversity
officer
that
has
told
us
that
they
have
no
objection.
Given
the
submitted,
looks
levels
and
those
looks
levels.
If
you
go
to
the
element
of
saying,
are
10
watts
less
than
was
the
original
proposed.
It
might
be
the
difference
in
luminescence,
but
they
are
actually
in
some
ways
equivalent
to,
and
there
are
different
arguments
being
presented
as
to
the
impact
quite
clearly
and
the
photographs
say
one
thing
and
our
officers
and
the
evidence
presented
says
something
else,
and
you
know
photographs
of
photographs,
but
technical
evidence
is
technical
evidence.
I
I
Sport
England
have
made
various
comments
in
support,
so
the
reality
is
the
application
actually
in
front
of
us,
as
per
our
officer's
advice,
is
quite
clearly
therefore
approval
and
to
find
a
reason
for
rejection
that
would
actually
stand
up
to
script.
Me
under
appeal
is
going
to
be
difficult.
I
noted,
there's
52
letters
of
objection,
but
there's
also
51
letters
of
support.
This
is
clearly
divided.
The
community
and
those
residents
who
live
closest
to
this,
of
course,
are
those
that
are
most
impacted
on
it,
and
why
would
they
not
be
given
the
arguments
they've?
I
There
needs
to
be
some
sort
of
Engagement
here
that
results
in
some
solution
that
resolves
the
issue
once
and
for
all.
If
the
parish
council
gave
permission
originally,
which
they
did
clearly
from
the
evidence,
that's
been
presented
and
they
have
changed
their
mind
and
there
is
a
difference
of
opinion,
because
it's
different
Parish
councilors
now
and
I
understand
that.
But
again,
heads
needs
to
be
in
some
sense,
bang
together
to
get
a
resolution
to
move
forward.
I
All
we
can
do
as
a
planning
committee
is
Judge
the
application
that
is
actually
on
the
paper
in
front
of
us,
and
there
isn't
a
single
reason
in
the
office's
report
that
you
could
genuinely
hang
an
objection
on,
because
the
officers
tell
us
such
in
the
report
as
the
evidence
presented.
So
on
that
basis,
I
would
move
approval.
I
But
by
goodness
me
please
talk
to
each
other
and
get
a
resolution,
because
that's
what
you
genuinely
need
to
do
find
a
way
through
this
for
your
community
and
the
tennis
club.
But
there's
nothing
in
this
paper
that
we
can
find
that
I
can
find
to
hang
out
genuine
reason
for
rejection
on
that
would
stand
up
to
an
appeal
inspector
scrutiny
and
we've
already
been
turned
over
once
this
evening
by
an
appeal
inspector.
A
A
A
A
If
this,
if
we
will
go
to
the
vote
in
a
minute,
if
this
is
approved.
Well,
it's
approved.
If
it's
refused,
the
applicant
gets
a
sec,
a
free
second
chance
to
put
in
another
application
without
cost,
and
what
I
really
suggest
if
this
is
refused,
is
the
applicant
gets
together
with
all
the
parties
and
they
sit
down
and
they
work
it
out
between
them,
because
we
all
want
to
encourage
sport.
We
all
want
to
encourage
tennis.
You
know,
we've
had
a
a
wonderful
summer
of
sport.
We
had
fantastic
results
in
Commonwealth
Games.
A
We
had
a
fantastic
result
in
the
ladies
football
and
all
those
results
start
in
clubs
like
this.
So
I
really
really
want
to
encourage
a
club
but
I.
Think
as
this
is
presented,
it
is
a
huge
impact
on
the
local
community
on
an
endless
area,
so
I
won't
be
supporting
councilor
Harvey's
motion
for
the
reason
I've
said
anyway,
it
has
been
moved
for
approval.
It's
been
seconded
for
approval,
so
those
in
favor
of
approval,
one
two,
three
four
I
make
that
four
people
and
those
against.
A
A
A
We
can
work
with
that.
Do
we
take
this
separately
from
enforcement.
O
A
So,
just
okay,
yeah
those
it's
been
moved
and
seconded
full
refusal.
Those
in
favor
of
refusal,
one
two,
three,
four:
five:
six,
seven,
nine
eight!
It
should
be
eight
yep.
Okay,
that
application
has
been
used
against
sorry,
I'm.
Sorry
I
was
against
one
two
three
thank
you
that
application
has
been
refused
right
now
we
have
to
go
to
enforcement.
A
F
O
Okay,
so,
and
in
terms
of
taking
an
enforcement
action,
what
what
the
committee
needs
to
decide
is
what
the
steps
are
required
to
rectify
the
breach
of
planning.
The
current
unauthorized
works,
the
period
of
compliance
to
carry
out
those
and
the
expediency
I.E.
The
reasons
for
taking
enforcement
action.
I
I
think
a
big
part
of
this
is
going
to
be
whether
or
not
there
is
actually
a
negotiated
sense
of
some
sort
of
resolution
and
enforcing
it
that
they
have
to
immediately
remove
the
posts
is
one
thing,
but
the
parish
council
can
turn
the
electricity
you
have
to
make
sure
they
can't
be
used.
But
if
we
simply
say
now,
you've
got
to
get
them
out,
they're
going
to
have
to
find
the
money
to
get
them
out.
I
A
Okay,
thank
you
before
I
appreciate
a
couple
of
hands
up.
The
advice
I'm
being
given
is
that
it
might
be
prudent
to
defer
this
decision
for
a
later
committee
in
two
months
time
that
will
give
the
party's
chance
to
negotiate
with
each
other
and
hopefully
come
up
with
a
solution.
So
we
don't
have
to
make
that
decision.
A
So
is
everybody
I
move
for
a
deferral
on
the
enforcement?
Is
there
a
seconder
councilor
Tomlin,
those
in
favor
of
defer
for
two
months
yeah,
and
that
looks
to
me
to
be
yet
12
after
13
and
those
against
deferral
and
one
abstention?
Thank
you
right.
Oh,
that
was
hard
work.
Wouldn't
it
thank
you
everybody.
It
was
yes,
please
confirm.
J
B
This
application
is
for
a
change
of
yours
from
C1
guest
house
to
silly
generous
for
a
21
resident
house
in
multiple
occupation
and
demolition
of
existing
garage,
which
is
currently
located
at
the
area
of
the
site,
and
I
would
like
to
draw
your
attention
to
the
update
paper
and
in
relation
to
the
side,
viewing
report
and
minor
changes
to
conditions
and
to
refer
to
the
latest
revision
of
the
nbpf
2021.
The
recommendation
is
for
approval.
Thank
you,
chairman.
Thank.
AA
Fifty
percent
increase
in
the
number
of
bedrooms
and
so
I'm
going
to
address
my
comments
on
My
Views
to
that
increase
of
50
percent.
AA
The
report
clearly
states
that
it's
expected
for
a
21
bedroom
HMO
for
21
parking
spaces,
but
it
argues
that
as
it's
so
near
the
Town
Center
we
can
get
away
with
14..
AA
Officers
regularly
and
and
in
this
area,
has
a
discretion
to
award
two
permits
per
household
with
the
with
the
business
permit,
but
recently,
due
to
demand
for
parking
in
the
area
they're
now
enforcing
one,
only
and
residents
are
renewed
in
March.
Some
of
them
have
been
refused
the
second
space
that
they
were
used
to
by
going
up
by
another
seven
units,
seven
bedrooms,
potentially
that's
a
seven
more
business
permits,
putting
more
pressure
on
the
area.
AA
AA
In
addition,
you've
got
the
situation
where
somebody's
trying
to
drive
in
and
somebody's
trying
to
drive
out
somebody's
going
to
have
to
reverse
reversing
out
into
this
road,
which
is
a
20
mile
an
hour
parking
limit,
because
this
is
there's
a
school.
This
school
runs
is
not
a
good
idea
and
if
you'd
look
at
the
entrance
of
the
property,
the
property
to
the
West
number
six
has
got
a
three
and
a
half
foot
high
wall.
You
cannot
see
reversing
out
a
child.
AA
A
Thank
you
councilor.
Is
that
a
move
for
refusal,
it
is
being
moved
for
refusalem.
Is
there
a
seconder,
councilor
Bose?
Thank
you.
We'll
take
a
little
bit
more
debate
before
we
go
to
the
vote
on
this.
Anybody
else
got
anything
they
want
to
say
councilor
ratica
thank.
H
H
My
understanding
is
that
there
has
been
bullying
and
violence
in
a
number
of
them
and
they
were
they
were
confirmed
to
me
when
I
was
leader
of
the
council.
Now,
obviously,
each
should
be
judged
on
its
own
merits,
but
this
looks
like
a
huge
overdevelopment
of
of
the
site.
The
fact
that
only
only
five
years
ago
it
was
going
to
be
eight
Flats
into
a
an
extension.
H
This
now
looks
like
there's
no
control
over
how
many
people
are
in
each
HMO
now,
there's
nothing
to
say
that
this
this
couldn't
be
couples
in
the
in
the
end,
because
they
have
private
facilities
in
terms
of
their
their
own
suite
and
everything
else.
H
I
just
feel
this
is
over
development
and,
of
course,
it
is
within
the
conservation
area
and
I
do
think
that
that
is
a
material
reason
for
the
impact
upon
that
that
it
would
diminish
from
the
conservation
area,
and
we
should,
in
all
conscience,
try
and
preserve
the
nature
and
Ambiance
of
conservation.
Areas
like
cannot,
in
all
due
conscience,
support
this
application
and
therefore
I'm
happy
with
the
moving
of
refusal.
A
AA
I
missed
that
one
point
I
wanted
to
raise.
If
you
look
on
page
234
at
the
West
elevation,
you'll
see,
there's
a
door
coming
out
into
a
narrow
strip,
a
road
with
cars,
potentially
reversing
whatever
I.
Just
think
that
that
access
on
the
on
the
East
Elevation,
that
that
is
a
that
should
be
blocked
off.
That
is
dangerous.
O
So
so
just
clarify
they
make.
The
motion
proposed
by
councilor
Hussey
for
refusal
was
in
relation
to
the
parking
provision
and
the
pressure
that
would
have
on
street
parking,
given.
A
The
reason
it
was
deferred,
as
councilor
Hussey
flagged
up
was
that
we
had
a
report
that
was
written,
which
basically
said,
approve,
approve,
approve
and
then
because
of
the
previous
planning
permission
decision,
the
recommendation
was
Rewritten
to
refuse
and
I
felt
and
obviously
councilor
Hussey
felt
that
that
was
dangerous
and
that
it
would
be
better
to
completely
rewrite
the
report
and
that's
what's
in
front
of
us
now,
so
look
we
have
okay,
if
you
could
introduce
it,
I've
got
I've
done
it.
Okay,
thank
you.
We
have
one
speaker
and
that's
Mrs
winch.
A
A
I
will
I'm
happy
to
Second
it,
so
it's
been
moved
and
seconded
to
for
the
officer's
recommendation,
those
in
favor
and
yeah,
that's
everybody
and,
and
those
against.
S
A
B
This
application
is
for
a
change
of
views
of
agricultural
land
to
residential
and
to
provide
off-street
parking
and
additional
external
amenity
space
to
the
chapel,
and
that
would
be
accessed
from
gunbridge
Lane
and
the
erection
of
new
fencing
and
gravel
heart
standing
and
the
application
is
partly
retrospective,
because
some
of
the
enclosures
and
hard
surfacing
has
been
already
undertaken.
B
I
would
like
to
draw
your
attention
to
the
update
paper
and
in
relation
to
the
application
side,
viewing
report
and
further
objections
from
a
neighbor
as
well
as
changes
within
the
report
and
conditions
that
now
include
reference
to
the
latest
revision
of
the
nppf
2021.
The
recommendation
is
to
refuse
thank
you,
chairman
and
enforce.
Thank
you
chairman.
J
AB
You
good
evening
my
name
is
David
beard,
I'm
speaking
to
you
this
evening
on
behalf
of
St
maryborn
Parish
Council.
During
the
consultation
process,
the
parish
councilor
wrote
in
support
of
this
application
and
I'm,
also
speaking
to
supporting
the
application.
This
evening,
there's
General
consensus
amongst
the
parish
council
that
this
application
should
be
approved
as
the
need
for
this
change
of
use
has
become
more
apparent,
as
time
has
gone
on
and
refusal
could
result
in
a
dangerous
situation
being
allowed
to
continue
when
the
council
first
consider
this
application
almost
two
years
ago.
AB
As
for
the
potential
flood
risk,
some
of
the
people
who
have
lodged
objectives,
the
application
have
referred
to
the
field
as
being
in
part
part
of
a
floodplain.
However,
whilst
this
may
be
true,
the
part
of
the
field
that
the
application
applies
to
is
at
a
higher
level
and
therefore
is
generally
not
a
risk
of
flooding.
AB
AB
While
someone
called
it
an
accident
waiting
to
happen
in
conclusion,
I
believe
the
reasons
were
put
forward
for
the
refusalem
supplication
are
Far
and
Away
outweighed
by
the
potential
dangers
that
is
caused
by
Vehicles
being
forced
to
park
on
the
road
in
this
area,
particularly
during
school
start
at
Finish
times,
and,
of
course,
after
dark
there's,
no
Street
Lighting
in
the
village.
Thank
you
for
giving
me
the
opportunity
to
make
you
aware
of
the
position
taken
by
the
parish
council,
regardless
application.
Thank
you.
A
AC
They
mentioned
the
Greenery
to
hide
sheds.
If
that
was
the
case,
that
would
need
to
be
in
excess
of
three
meters
in
height
when
considering
the
neighborhood
plan
that
application
inflicts
with
multiple
Clauses
that
form
the
environmental
factors
and
design
requirements.
Policies.
Two
the
case
officer
points
out.
AC
There's
no
evidence
has
been
submitted
to
justify
the
claims
by
the
ward
councilor,
the
parish,
council
and
others
at
on
street
parking
is
a
highway
safety
concern
Freedom
of
Information
requests
made
by
the
speaker
to
the
Beijing
slogan,
Dean
Borough,
Council,
Hampshire,
County,
Council,
Hampshire,
constabury
and
Saint
maryborn
Parish
Council
have
returned
no
information
relating
to
parking
or
road
traffic
problems
in
the
vicinity
of
the
chapel.
At
the
meeting
of
the
St
maryborn
Parish
Council
last
night,
Council
of
pert
said
that
on-road
Park
cars
are
good
for
slowing
traffic.
AC
AC
The
approved
commission
did
not
require
off-road
parking
to
provide
it,
and
the
application
officer
considered
that
the
proposal
is
acceptable
in
terms
of
its
impact
on
highway
safety.
We're
in
the
parish
council
considered
the
application
they
chose
to
respond.
There
is
no
objection
option
and
just
noted
under
other
comments
that
their
head
reservations
about
local
parking.
AC
There
was
no
mention
of
the
potential
dangers
and
the
situation
is
unlikely
to
have
changed
since
2018..
The
photograph
sent
to
members
of
the
committee
on
Monday
evening
illustrates
a
typical
current
parking
Arrangements
on
Stoke
Road.
The
apparent
blind
Bend
may
only
have
come
into
being
when
the
applicants
allowed
the
occupier
to
plant
towards
Flora
in
early
2020.
AC
three
between
the
proposed
track
and
the
public
highway
is
a
strip
of
land
over
which
the
applicant
has
no
control
and
cannot
guarantee
access
across.
This
application
will
increase
the
vehicle
movements
in
the
village
end
at
the
Village
end
of
Cambridge
Lane.
The
land
that
must
be
crossed
between
the
track
and
the
lane
is
already
used
I
know,
can
provide
more
detail.
AC
The
highways
consultation
consult
team
visited
our
school
day
holiday,
school
holiday
period,
And,
so
viewed
the
location
in
an
unusual
state.
Two
photographs
sent
to
members
of
the
committee
on
Monday
evening
illustrate
the
congestion
that
occurs
outside
the
potential
access
point
on
Cambridge
Lane
and
a
greatly
restricted
visibility
display
four
in
the
last
two
years.
AC
Game
fish
as
well
as
well
as
nesting
and
breeding
wildfowl,
have
been
found
close
to
the
bridge,
which
is
a
good
indication
that
the
Riviera
is
free
of
pollution,
run
off
of
blood
waters
with
contamination
from
the
track
parking
area
and
amenity
space
has
the
potential
to
pollute
the
rivalax
and
groundwater
5..
The
threats
of
flooding
is
real
and
photographs
sent
to
members
of
the
committee
on
Monday
illustrate
this.
AC
One
photograph
shows
the
site,
as
it
was
two
summers
ago
and
the
other
two
during
a
period
of
flood
in
February
2014.,
one
of
the
photographs
was
taken
before
the
peak
of
flooding
and
shows
the
track
underwater.
But
what
would
be
the
track?
Underwater
at
least
one
document
submitted
by
the
applicant
suggests
that
parts
of
the
track
would
be
raised
above
the
existing
level
of
the
meadow
the
racetrack
will
potentially
trap
prevent
the
free
runoff
of
flood
waters
and
other
waters
that
accumulate.
AC
Thank
you
for
the
consideration
of
these
observations
and
I.
Ask
you
that
you
support
the
recommendation
of
the
case
officer
to
refuse
the
application
well.
Finally,
I
find
it
surprising
that
councilor
Faulkner
has
not
excused
himself.
Despite
calling
in
the
previous
version
of
this
application
as
he
exported
that
application,
thank
you.
A
AD
Thank
you
chairman
and
members
of
the
committee
I'm
Stella
Turner
planning
consultant
for
the
applicants.
Speaking
in
support
of
this
application,
as
outlined,
the
proposed
development
comprises
the
change
of
use
of
agricultural
land
to
residential,
specifically,
the
creation
of
private
amenity
space
and
much
needed
parking
for
the
existing
dwelling
of
the
chapel.
The
chapel
was
granted
planning
permission
for
its
conversion
into
a
residential
dwelling
back
in
2018,
where
the
development
was
approved,
with
no
on-site
parking
provision.
AD
AD
The
council
in
the
report
have
outlined
four
proposed
reasons
to
refusal
which
I
would
like
to
take
the
opportunity
to
address
in
turn,
it's
important
at
this
stage
to
note
that
Hampshire
highways
have
issued
no
objections
to
the
proposed
development,
considering
the
removal
of
the
on-street
parking
to
represent
the
benefit
in
terms
of
Highway
Safety
they've
also
confirmed
that
the
proposed
access
point
orientation
of
the
access
and
the
visibility
displays
are
acceptable.
This
application
also
has
the
continued
support
from
the
parish
council,
local
board
members
and
members
of
the
public
reasons
for
refusal.
AD
One
and
two
are
concerned
with
the
impact
the
proposed
development
may
have
upon
the
surrounding
landscape
and
Conservation
Area
during
the
course
of
the
previous
application
in
2020,
the
landscape
team
considered
the
application
to
be
acceptable,
subject
to
the
surfacing
being
permeable.
All
that
has
changed
now
is
the
removal
of
the
proposed
parking
spaces
for
the
adjacent
cottages
and
reduction
in
the
proposed
Site
Area.
AD
A
landscaping
scheme
has
been
submitted,
which
outlines
the
proposed
hard
and
soft
landscaping
and
vegetation
to
soften
vegetation,
planting
to
soften
and
Screen
the
site.
The
site
is
located
within
a
village
where
it
is
not
unusual
to
see
residential
Garden
space
car
parking
and
relevant
Garden
paraphernalia,
as
no
additional
buildings
or
structures
are
being
proposed.
Coupled
with
the
proposed
Landscaping,
it
is
considered
there
will
be
no
views
lost
and
no
harm
caused
to
the
surrounding
Conservation.
AD
Area
reason:
three
outlines
the
proximity
of
the
proposed
development
to
the
Bourne
rivulet
and
the
impacts
this
would
have
on
the
biodiversity
Network.
As
confirmed
within
the
committee
report
pack,
the
EA
anticipates
that
the
risks
could
be
satisfactly
managed
and
advised
that
the
applicant
apply
for
an
environmental
permit
to
address
this.
AD
I
wish
to
note
that
the
access
to
the
site
and
Associated
gate
already
exists
within
the
20
meter.
Zone
and
access
is
achievable
for
tractors
and
various
farmyard
Vehicles
associated
with
the
existing
agricultural
use.
Also
within
this
20
meter
zone
is
the
existing
garden
and
parking
spaces
of
neighboring
dwelling
Ricketts
way
and
therefore
this
rule
should
not
be
slavishly
applied.
Finally
reason:
4
discusses
the
site's
location
within
flood
zone
3.
The
site
is
specifically
located
with
flood
zone
3B,
which
is
the
functional
flood
plain.
AD
The
EA
previously
advised
that
the
proposed
works
could
be
classed
as
water
compatible
and
raise
no
objections.
Subject:
conditions
which
the
applicants
agree
to
this
time
around
the
EA
have
advised
an
environmental
permit
would
be
required,
which
the
applicants
are
committed
to
obtaining.
The
proposed
surface
is
to
be
of
permeable
construction,
to
avoid
any
further
risks
of
flooding.
AD
I'd
like
to
conclude
by
summarizing
that
this
proposed
development
would
allow
sufficient
parking
provision
and
private
immunity
space
to
be
created
with
a
pragmatic
and
sensible
scheme
proposed,
which
wholly
addresses
highway
safety
issues
specifically
in
relation
to
the
adjacent
School
outstanding
matters
can
sufficiently
be
dealt
with
via
planning
conditions.
We
respectfully
request
that
the
committee
approve
this
planning
application.
Thank
you.
C
B
These
vehicles
are
associated
with
the
chapel.
However,
the
car
parking,
as
you
can
see
at
the
moment,
is
unauthorized
because
it
was
created.
We
understand
it
was
created
for
the
conversion
of
the
chapel,
so
that
was
for
the
contractors
and
vehicles
to
park
and
to
accommodate
the
vehicles.
B
The
you'll
see
deeply
within
the
photograph.
You
can
see
a
brick
boundary
wall
and
so
that
boundary
wall
was
actually
extending
across
the
frontage
of
the
chapel.
There
was
only
a
little
Gap
pedestrian
access
from
the
from
from
the
highway
onto
the
side,
so
officers,
the
part
of
the
recommendation
is
to
refuse
and
enforce,
and
the
enforcement
include
terrain
statement
of
that
break
boundary
wall.
A
I,
don't
see
any
other
hands
up.
So
if
we
were
to
approve
this
tonight,
could
we
condition
that
no
sheds
or
garages
or
all
the
things
that
you
could
normally
put
up
in
your
private
amenities
base?
A
Could
we
condition
it
that
they
couldn't?
They
can't
can't
be
put
up
to
permittedly
effectively
remove
fermented
development
rights
from
that
area
yeah?
We
can.
J
So
you
could
take
away
permitted
development
rights
for
ancillary
Garden
buildings
which
apply
in
this
location,
bearing
in
mind
there's
it's
more
restricted
anyway,
because
it's
Conservation
Area
and
the
A
and
B.
So
excuse
me
the
amount
of
what
you
can
put
on.
There
is
much
greater
reduce,
but
you
can
remove
those
committed
developments.
All
it
means
then
there's
the
applicant
would
then
be
required
to
apply
for
anything
in
the
future.
Okay,.
W
Thank
you,
chair,
yeah,
just
to
comment
on
Mr
theobald's
comment
about
me
on
this
committee.
I've
expressed
no
opinion
on
this
application
and
had
no
involvement
with
it
whatsoever.
Although
I'm
a
counselor
for
Evangel
councilor
Carl
handles
instant
Mary
born,
so
I
do
not
have
a
predetermined,
View
and
therefore
I'm
sat
here
as
as
any
of
the
my
fellow
councilors.
A
Thank
you,
culture,
Faulkner
back
to
debate,
there's
nobody's
sticking
their
hands
up;
I'll
start
it
off.
It's
a
real
toss-up
between
road
safety
and
the
fact
that
the
existing
parking
Arrangement
is
unlawful
and
possibly
going
to
be.
Have
that's
going
to
be
lost
in
the
enforcement
case
and
then
the
visual
amenities
of
the
rural
area
and
I.
Look
at
the
plan
on
page
283
and
I.
Look
at
the
amount
of
land
that
is
being
effectively
having
a
change
of
use
and
I.
A
A
A
This
it
just
doesn't
need
this
amount
of
space,
I.
Think
they're,
taking
taking
far
too
much
space
to
achieve
I
totally
understand
what
they
want
to
achieve.
I
totally
understand
the
need
to
achieve
it,
but
they're
taking
an
awful
lot
more
that
they
need.
So
I
am
going
to
move
the
officer's
recommendation.
Thank
you.
C
Chad,
obviously,
it's
perhaps
that
it's
been
too
hot
today
for
me,
but
can
I
just
clarify
that
they
have
two
parking
spaces
at
the
front
of
this
property,
but
they
illegally
did
it
by
doing
it
in
construction.
So
what
what's
our?
What
is
our
beef
with
the
fact
that
they're
there
and
could
solve
some
of
this
problem.
J
And
the
defense
there
used
to
be
a
boundary
wall
that
went
directly
along
the
front
there
and
there
was
a
small
pedestrian
gate
and
there's
a
Methodist
Chapel
that
that
there
was
no
parking
at
all.
So
when
the
change
of
use
for
residential
was
approved
on
the
basis
of
a
residential
use,
wouldn't
require
as
much
parking
if
you
applied
it
to
the
chapel.
That's
why
we
accepted
that
situation.
There
I
believe
during
the
conversion.
J
The
war
was
taken
out
so
that
construction
vehicles
could
get
off
the
road
and
carry
out
the
conversion,
but
it
is
now
carried
on
as
a
domestic
parking
area,
but
that
doesn't
have
permission.
The
issue
with
that
as
well
is
in
terms
of
visibility,
displays
and
it's
very
close
to
the
bend.
I
mean.
If
you
look
to
the
right,
then
potentially
it's
not
safe,
but
the
county
haven't
commented
on
that
access
because
that's
not
before
you
for
tonight,
foreign.
A
O
Sorry,
sorry,
the
recommendation
on
page
260
from
offices
is
a
period
of
compliance
of
four
months.
F
O
A
O
So
it
would
be
on
page
260.
The
enforcement
action
is
removal
of
the
fence,
removal
of
gravel
hard
standing,
the
reinstatement
of
land
to
previous
condition,
and
we
would
just
like
to
strengthen
that
by
including
being
more
precise,
their
attention
and
the
reinstatement
of
the
boundary
wall.
The
section
that
we've
seen
on
the
photo
with
a
four-month
compliance
period.
A
B
You
chairman,
so
it
is
refused
and
enforced,
and
the
enforcement
action
will
include
the
removal
of
Defense,
the
gravel
heart
standing
and
race
sentiment
of
the
land
to
previous
condition,
including
remove
a
reinstatement
of
the
prequel
at
front.
Thank
you.
J
Thank
you
chair.
This
is
an
application
for
fruition
and
principle
for
the
erection
of
up
to
three
dwellings.
If
I
can
draw
your
attention
to
the
update
paper
and
the
viewing
panel
report,
also
in
with
regards
to
affordable
housing
due
to
the
site
area,
affordable
housing
is
required.
Therefore,
informative.
Five
is
therefore
amended
to
include
that
and
the
text
is
there
and
also
there's
reference
to
the
nppf.
It
should
refer
to
the
July
2021
version,
another
February
version
and
the
officer's
recommendation
is
for
approval.
A
AE
Good
evening
my
name
is
Martin
Haynes
and
I'm,
representing
the
East
Woody
Parish
Council,
who
are
objecting
to
this
pip,
we're
here
to
consider
the
principle
of
allowing
three
houses
to
be
built
on
this
land.
Details
regarding
designer
buildings
are
not
for
today's
meeting,
but
we
cannot
review
this
principle
without
considering
the
effect
on
several
important
issues.
Firstly,
access
to
the
site,
whilst
the
government
pip
guidelines
state
that
it
is
not
necessary
to
discuss
means
of
access
at
this
stage.
AE
We
believe
that
it
is
a
fundamental
issue
to
this
pip
on
the
same
side
of
the
road
as
the
planned
entrance.
There
is
a
dangerous
exit
from
the
sports
club.
Parents
will
not
allow
their
children
to
walk
along
the
road
to
the
club,
yet
this
application
shows
the
proposed
entrance
to
the
development
positioned,
45
meters,
closer
to
a
blind
bend.
AE
The
parish
council
have
invested
time
and
money
into
assessing
speed
and
traffic
figures
in
the
parish
in
the
last
18
months,
and
we
conclude
that
this
position
on
Wilton,
Hill
Road
is
simply
dangerous
and
an
inappropriate
location
below
a
blind
bend
on
the
brow
of
a
hill
impact.
Secondly,
impact
on
the
hedgerows
to
improve
the
visibility
splay
to
achieve
the
minimum
visibility,
splay
required,
90
meters
of
Hedgerow
will
be
removed
and
several
mature
trees
felled
and
the
requirement
for
a
minimum
visibility
of
43
meters
is
flawed
in
dry
conditions.
AE
A
car
traveling
at
30
mph
would
take
23
meters
to
stop,
but
in
the
wet
it
would
need
46
meters,
Vans
and
lures
take
50
percent
longer
to
stop,
therefore,
up
to
69
to
70
meters.
However,
since
one
in
three
vehicles
are
exceeding
the
30
mile
an
hour
limit
at
this
point,
these
stopping
distances,
while
still
insufficient,
are
academic.
Thirdly,
impact
on
the
aomb.
This
is
agricultural
land
and
lies
within
the
aonb,
for
the
building
is
not
acceptable.
AE
The
site
is
outside
the
settlement
policy
boundary,
it's
an
invasion
of
the
countryside,
and
there
is
no
proven
need
for
this
type
of
housing.
This
Parish
has
already
exceeded
its
housing
Target,
delivering
more
homes
than
required
and
is
confirmed
by
the
bdbc
four
impact
on
the
sports
club
and
drainage.
Next
to
this
site
is
a
thriving
and
growing
sports
club.
We
should
consider
the
impact
of
a
development
here,
noting
that
bdbc
have
a
policy
of
encouraging
Community
facilities
and
not
allowing
development
which
will
have
an
adverse
effect
on
such
a
facility.
AE
Drainage
is
also
a
key
issue
in
this
area,
which
our
Ward
counselor
will
cover
in
more
detail,
together
with
the
major
Financial
investment
made
by
bdbc.
In
supporting
this
immune,
important
Community,
Asset
I
have
to
conclude
by
saying
that,
whilst
the
bdbc
local
plan
is
out
of
date
and
the
Borough
Council
cannot
demonstrate
a
five-year
land
Supply,
it
is
not
acceptable
that
this
land
within
the
almb
and
outside
the
spb
should
be
considered
for
development.
AE
66
percent
of
dwellings
within
the
parish
are
of
this
type
large
four-bedroom
homes.
Therefore,
the
development
will
not
address
the
council's
housing
shortfall.
All
the
government's
objective
of
boosting
the
supply
of
affordable
new
homes,
the
use
of
a
car
is
essential,
given
the
lack
of
public
transport
options
in
the
village,
and
the
fact
is
that
the
development
is
located
on
a
blind
bend
on
a
hill
with
no
Pavements
or
Street
lighting
and
a
proven
record
of
speeding.
This
is
not
a
location
with
opportunities
for
travel
other
than
by
private
car.
A
AF
Good
evening,
everyone
I'm
here
today
representing
a
group
of
residents
who
live
in
Morton
Hill,
and
we
object
to
this
pip
application.
I
hope
you
will
bear
with
me
as
we
take
a
glimpse
into
the
future.
Hi
yeah
we're
new.
Here
we
live
on
the
new
development,
it's
just
above
the
tennis
club.
We
love
the
house.
Unfortunately,
we
do
have
major
issues
with
the
road.
AF
We
had
no
idea
just
how
fast
traffic
came
down
that
Hill,
since
the
developers
cut
back
the
bend
at
the
top
and
it
doesn't
help
that
our
exit
is
so
far
up
the
hill.
We
thought
we
were
coming
to
a
village
where
we
could
leave
the
car
at
home,
but
actually
we
can't
leave
the
house
without
it
and
did
you
know,
20
or
so
years
ago
a
young
girl
lost
her
life
on
this
bit
of
Road
I'd.
Never
let
my
daughters
walk
up
to
the
Village.
AF
I
have
to
drive
one
to
catch
the
school
bus
from
Trade
Street
around
the
corner,
half
an
hour
later,
I'm
in
the
car
again
taking
the
youngest
to
Junior
School,
and
there
were
just
two
bus
services
a
day.
Even
if
we
could
walk
to
the
doctors,
there'd
be
no
point
as
the
surgeries
at
capacity
to
top
it
all.
There's
a
tennis
club
from
mid-afternoon
to
early
evening.
We
have
constant
noise
of
Junior
coaching.
Then
the
adults
play
more
noise
and
joy
of
Joys,
very
bright
floodlights
until
late
talk
about
light
pollution,
it's
just
so
disappointing.
AF
AF
Nppf
states
that
for
sustainable
development
in
rural
areas,
housing
locations
should
enhance
or
maintain
the
Vitality
of
rural
communities.
Wharton
Hill
infrastructure
is
stretched.
We
know
this
and
to
live
here.
New
residents
will
have
to
use
a
car,
so
this
this
development
will
be
in
an
aonb
outside
the
spb
on
agricultural
land.
The
building
of
houses
here
is
contrary
to
stated
policy
of
the
nppf
aonb
and
Basingstoke
and
Dean
as
a
bdbc's
natural
environment,
landscape
team
originally
claimed
it
will
have
a
harmful
impact
on
the
landscape.
AF
Excess
speeding
of
cars
has
been
proven
and
already
raised
by
the
parish
council.
Now
the
original
application
proposed
an
exit
onto
this
dangerous
road,
which
highways
did
not
accept
alternative
exit
plans
within
percent
were
then
presented
with
no
significant
safety
Improvement
yet
requiring
the
destruction
of
some
90
meters
of
substantial
Hedgerow
and
mature
trees.
In
order
to
widen
the
road
and
decrease
the
angle
of
a
dangerous
Bend
highways
then
accepted
this
revision.
AF
Thank
you
perhaps
not
so
concerned
with
biodiversity.
There
is
no
street
light
and
there
are
no
Pavements,
but
the
provision
of
either
will
create
further
urbanization
and
loss
of
visual
immunity
unacceptable
in
an
aonb,
the
proximity
of
the
thriving
Tennis
Club
will
have
a
negative
impact
on
nearby
houses
and
residential
objections
could
jeopardize
the
ongoing
success
of
this
club.
AF
Furthermore,
there's
no
need
for
more
housing
in
our
village.
This
Parish
has
more
than
fulfilled
its
housing
quota
at
this
time.
Despite
this,
the
need
for
housing
in
the
parish
is
not
ignored.
In
the
last
15
months,
the
parish
council
have
approved
so-called
windfall
applications
for
21
new
houses.
AF
AF
AG
Thank
you
chairman.
My
name
is
Gaff
Jones
and
I'm.
The
planning
consultant
from
prohibition
on
behalf
of
the
applicant
the
site
is
acknowledged
by
your
offices
as
a
suitable
location
for
new
homes
in
Woodland
Hills.
The
officer's
report
provides
a
well-balanced
assessment
of
the
application
and
addresses
the
concerns
raised
by
local
residents
and
the
parish
council.
AG
So
I
wish
to
pick
up.
A
few
points
explain
why
permission
and
principle
should
be
granted
as
you'll
be
aware.
The
council
cannot
currently
demonstrate
a
five-year
housing
and
supply
according
to
presumption
in
favor
of
sustainable
development
applies,
and
there
is
a
need
to
approve
applications
for
new
homes
across
the
borough.
AG
AG
AG
However,
in
this
case,
it
lies
immediately
adjacent
to
the
settlement
boundary
further,
the
site
is
akin
to
an
infill
development
being
situated
between
existing
residential
dwellings
along
trade,
Street
and
the
sports
club.
The
density
of
the
development
also
responds
to
the
site's
character
and
relationship
with
the
adjacent-built
form
and
Countryside.
AG
AG
AG
However,
there
is
an
existing
site
access
in
active
use
and,
through
liaison
with
the
authority,
we
provided
extra
indicative
information,
demonstrating
that
alternative
accesses
could
be
achieved
along
the
site
Frontage
to
assist.
At
this
stage,
the
highways
authorities
satisfied
that,
in
principle,
a
safe
access
for
the
site
can
be
achieved
with
further
details
required
at
the
TDC
stage.
AG
AG
There
are
no
tree
protection
orders
on
or
within
proximity
of
the
site,
which
would
affect
the
development.
A
tree
survey
will
be
provided
at
the
TDC
stage,
and
the
development
will
seek
to
retain
existing
important
trees
where
possible
and
provide
significant
new
soft
landscaping
and
planting.
You
got
one
minute.
In
summary,
the
proposed
development
is
sustainable
development
and
will
give
rise
to
a
range
of
benefits.
AG
The
site
will
make
a
modest
contribution
to
the
council's
five-year
land
Supply
and
can
be
built
out.
Relatively
quickly
scheme
will
also
provide
some
economic
benefits
through
employment.
At
the
construction
phase,
the
occupation
of
the
three
new
homes
will
also
contribute
towards
the
viability
of
local
services
and
support
the
Vitality
of
the
local
community.
AG
We
therefore
hope
that
members
will
see
the
overall
benefits
of
the
scheme
where
the
principal
of
residential
development
on
this
site
is
considered
to
be
acceptable.
There
are
no
Technical
and
principle
objections,
and
matters
such
as
access,
design
and
ecology
will
be
further
addressed
at
the
TDC
stage.
AG
AG
C
You
chair
good
evening,
Mr
Johns,
just
a
a
brief
question
really
and
I
appreciate
this
is
a
pip
and
there
are
all
sorts
of
things.
We've
got
your
illustrative
plan
here,
which
I
know
we
don't
hold
you
to.
But,
interestingly,
you
show
the
existing
access
as
the
entry
of
the
site,
but
then
you've
done
these
two
option:
one
and
option
two,
the
reason
being
you
were
asked
to
by
the
highways
Authority
because
they
weren't
happy
with
the
the
existing
axis.
AG
So
so,
yes,
so
our
preference
obviously
to
use
the
existing
access
and
we
have
provided
visibility,
displays
to
the
highways
Authority
and
generally,
they
were
happy
with
that,
but
they
wanted
further
detail
which
it
was
not
actually
required
at
this
until
the
TDC
stage,
so
to
assist
them
in
giving
them
confidence
that
a
access
could
be
achieved
along
the
frontage.
We
provided
additional
information.
A
W
Thank
you
yes,
I
think,
as
you
know,
I'm
the
ward
counts
around
one
of
the
three
and
also
I'm
a
trustee
of
and
past
chairman
of
the
Walton
Hill
sports
club,
which
is
directly
impacted
by
this
application.
W
Now
the
reason
for
approval
is
flawed.
The
planning
officer
for
the
north
Wessex
down
aonb
has
very
very
recently
stated
that
the
absence
of
a
five-year
land
Supply
does
not
apply
to
the
aonb.
Unless,
as
the
npps
states,
there
are
exceptional
circumstances,
but
in
this
case
I
would
submit.
There
are
no
exceptional
circumstances.
W
In
the
update
of
our
council's
local
plan,
the
East
Woody
Parish
Council
has
had
a
letter
from
our
policy
team
to
say
that
it
will
have
zero
housing
Target
because
of
the
number
it
was
already
built
in
the
last
five
years
and
also
in
reference
to
the
the
local
need
now.
Furthermore,
the
location
is
outside
of
the
settlement
policy
boundary.
So
you.
F
W
W
W
Now,
two
two
days
before
our
DC
site
visit,
thirty
thousand
pounds
worth
of
Works
were
completed
in
the
road
and
then
the
grounds
for
the
sewage
and
drainage
works,
and
this
was
funded
by
s106
and
Lyft
funding
of
ours,
and
there
is
a
further
ten
thousand
pound
for
upgrade
to
the
training
Court,
which
is
mainly
used
by
the
younger
members
of
the
club,
and,
incidentally,
there's
330
users
of
the
club
and
of
course,
two
years
ago
or
three
years
ago.
Further
lift
funding
I
think
it
was.
W
W
Now
this
location
is
a
steep
slope
and
a
runoff
down
to
the
stream
at
the
bottom
is
an
issue.
The
squash
court
was
closed
when
I
was
German,
because
we
could
never
solve
the
drainage
problem
as
water
seeped
over
the
foundations
and
rotted
the
floor.
But
it's
now
used
for
table
tennis,
which
doesn't
require
the
same
quality.
W
The
recent
drainage
Works
will
hopefully
hopefully
improve
this,
but
a
development
on
that
very
Steep
Hill
would
reduce
the
soak
away
worsen
the
drainage
problem
and
threaten
the
considerable
investment
that
has
already
been
made
in
the
club.
I
would
submit
this
in
this
location
is
inappropriate.
Thank
you.
A
C
Tomlin,
could
we
clarify
that
to
a
comment
made
by
Council
Faulkner
about
the
area
of
outstanding
natural
beauty
in
the
five-year
landsplay?
Yes,.
A
A
O
Thank
you,
chair,
I,
I,
think
councilor
Faulkner
was
referring
to
paragraph
11d
of
the
mppf
and
in
particular
the
footnote
under
D1
at
footnote,
seven,
which
refers
to
protected
areas,
and
that
includes
AUM
B's.
O
But
what
that
0.1
D1
says
that
where
there
is
a
clear
reason
for
refusing
the
development
now,
as
officers
are
advised
to
you
that
there
isn't,
for
the
very
reasons
rebalanced
out
in
the
report,
but
I
think
that's
the
point
that
councilor
Faulkner
was
making
that
he
has
a
different
view
in
how
to
interpret
that
point.
A
I,
don't
like
Pips
I,
don't
think
any
of
us
know
all
the
results
in
to
tdc's,
but
all
we
are
looking
at
is
called
three
houses
be
fitted
into
this
piece
of
ground.
The
access
isn't
something
where
able
to
consider
the
removal
or
possible
removal
of
the
Hedge
isn't
something
we're
able
to
consider
that
would
come
in
on
biodiversity
issues
on
a
technical
detail
of
the
TDC,
the
houses
that
are
shown
they
look
fairly
substantial
houses,
but
very
illustrative
only.
A
So
yeah
I'll
be
interested
to
hear
what
other
people
say:
counselor
Freeman.
AH
Not
comfortable
with
it
at
all,
it's
right
out
in
the
middle
of
nowhere,
we've
already
heard,
there's
barely
any
public
transport.
The
people
here
will
need
to
use
cars
and
we
are
supposed
to
be
promoting
more
public
transport
and
less
developments
right
in
the
middle
of
nowhere.
I'm
not
happy
with
this
at
all.
I.
Don't
think
that
we
should
be
building
houses
this
far,
especially
when
it's
not
not
when
it
will
threaten
existing
establishments,
but
we've
already
funded
and
have
been
there
for
a
mighty
long
time.
C
Yeah
I've
got
concerns
here.
I
mean
we
we're
supposed
to
be
looking
at
the
suitability
of
the
site
for
residential
now.
Access
is
the
detail,
we're
not
going
to
look
at
the
detail
of
the
access,
but
I
believe
we
should
look
at
the
principle
of
the
access
and
this
access
is
on
a
very
dangerous
stretch
of
road
and
we've
we've
heard.
Obviously
there
was
a
fatality
in
the
past
and
from
the
site
visit
it
was
a
particularly
nasty
stretchy
Road.
C
You
would
not
want
to
walk
on
and
then
I
know
comments
that
from
our
waste
officers
right
yeah,
no
problem
providing
they
put
their
bins
out
on
the
curb.
So
you
know
you
know
we're
urbanizing
this
in
an
area
where
it's
it's
not
suitable,
so
I
have
grave
reservations
about
this,
and,
of
course,
what
is
the
whole
big
issue
with
this?
C
If
we
don't
have
the
highways
people
to
come
along
and
say
it's
not
a
problem
whatever
we
we
haven't
had
any
work
done
because
it
comes
at
TDC
stage,
which
is
completely
bizarre,
given
the
fact
that
we
can
see
that
there
are
big
issues
that
we
need
to
resolve
before.
We
even
think
it's
got
the
principle
right
so
that
I'm
not
happy
with
this
at
all.
D
You
chair
we've
been
told
that
the
only
question
we
need
to
consider
is
whether
three
houses
can
fit
on
this
site.
If
that's
an
entirely
accurate
summary
of
the
only
thing
we
need
to
consider,
then
clearly
free
houses
can
I
think
we're
going
to
have
to
approve
it.
If
that's
the
only
consideration
but,
like
others
have
said,
there
is
clearly
going
to
be
an
impact
and
and
risks
associated
with
any
development
here,
so
I'm
happy
to
move
for
approval.
If
that
is
the
only
consideration,
but
I
would
like
just
some
clarity.
O
AI
Thank
you
chair.
Please
forgive
my
ignorance
on
this,
so
I'm,
just
not
at
all
sure,
but
if
we
approve
the
PIP
as
big
enough
for
the
houses
which
it
clearly
is,
are
we
going
to
find
ourselves
in
the
situation
in
future
where
we
have
our
hands
tied
again
because
it's
been
approved
in
principle,
so
this
is
basically
a
way
of
getting
approval
kind
of
by
the
back
door.
A
O
Yeah,
thank
you.
Chair
I
mean
clearly
you're.
Looking
at
the
the
three
three
points
that
I've
just
referred
to:
land
use,
location
and
amount
at
this
in
principle
stage,
you
would
look
at
all
the
details
under
the
TDC
and
you
would
have
an
opportunity
to
consider
impacts
such
as
you
know,
impact
on
the
landscape,
biodiversity,
the
highways
you
could
consider
all
of
those
at
the
TDC
stage.
A
A
AA
AA
A
Late,
we
have
had
exactly
this
with
the
mentioned
surgery,
where
we
refused
the
TTC
on
access,
and
it
is
it's
a
rock
and
a
hard
place.
I
Harvey,
that
is
completely
agree,
and
we
all
know
what's
going
to
happen.
Hampshire
County
Council
are
going
to
sit
in
the
Winchester
castle
and
make
a
decision
based
on
a
desktop
study.
That's
got
nothing
to
do
with
the
reality.
That's
in
front
of
us
and
they're
going
to
give
permission
for
this
because
they
don't
see
the
homeless
issues
in
the
same
way
that
we
did
so.
We
know
exactly
what
the
applicants
are
going
to
be
able
to
get
away
with
and
in
the
context
of
this,
isn't
it
fascinating.
I've
got
to
congratulate
the
applicant.
I
Actually
I
really
have
got
to
congratulate
them,
because
the
land
ownership
clearly
shows
us
a
broader
field
over
which
we
had
absolutely
no
right
to
discuss
this
evening,
because
it's
not
part
of
the
red
line,
but
they've
left
the
access
wide
open
to
the
field
at
the
back
and
you
guarantee
will
give
clip
for
three
and
we'll
have
another
three
that
come
along
in
a
short
space
of
time.
So
you
can
read
the
scripts
on
this
a
mile
off
and
I.
Just
think
that's
shocking,
but
that's
the
nature
of
the
planning
system.
I
J
How
you
consider
the
application
tonight
I
would
just
draw
that
to
your
attention.
As
Lisa
said,
you
need
a
pip
and
a
TDC
to
get
to
have
a
proper
plan
of
permission.
You
have
the
right
at
the
TDC
stage,
when
you
have
all
of
the
technical
information
in
front
of
you,
where
you
can
assess
whether
it's
you
consider
it
to
be
a
safe
access,
whether
the
amount
of
hetero
that
has
been
lost
is
unacceptable
because
it
changes
the
impact
of
the
error.
J
That's
not
for
you
to
consider
it
tonight
and
I
can
understand
councilor,
Hussey's
frustration.
Unfortunately,
this
is
how
Pips
work.
So,
what's
before
you
tonight,
you
have
to
almost
like
Park
the
access
issue,
because
it's
not
for
consideration
tonight.
You
have
all
the
powers
of
the
TDC
stage
to
refuse
it.
If
you
consider
the
access
is
unacceptable,
whether
it
be
for
Highway
grounds
for
impact
on
the
character
or
biodiversity,
and
it's
at
that
point
that
you
have
to
consider
it
then
not
now.
AH
I
think
the
trouble
with
that
argument
is
once
these
people
have
the
permission
and
principle.
Then
surely
it
generally
follows
on
and
that
will
be
having
to
be
given
weight
at
the
end.
I
I
still
think
we
can
challenge
this
I
I.
Don't
think
it
should
be
approved
on
the
grounds
that
the
location
isn't
suitable.
So
I
won't
be
voting
for
this
motion,
but
I'd
say
it's.
You
know
we
need
to
be
considering.
AH
Let's
see
if
you've
got
planning
permission
in
principle,
then
that's
added
weight
when
it
comes
to
technical
details
and
then
we
end
up
in
a
situation
where
they've
got
technical
information
permission
and
we
can't,
with
our
hands,
are
tied
with
refusing
it
because
they've
already
got
the
permission
in
principle
and
it's.
C
The
word
is
suitable
in
principle
for
residential
development
and
if
you
can't
get
into
the
site
and
you're
going
to
destroy
the
Hedgerow,
it's
not
suitable,
in
my
opinion,
whether
that's
shared
by
other
members,
but
we
have
the
power
to
make
that
decision
now,
as
well
as
at
the
TDC
stage.
So
I
still
think
that
we
are
able
to
discuss
the
accessibility,
should
we
say
they're,
not
the
access.
Thank
you.
A
H
You
chair
I
mean
it
is
about
the
suitability
and,
let's
just
be
honest,
without
proper
access.
It's
not
suitable
and
I
think
it
falls
on
that.
You
know
the
land
use.
The
number
are
on
it,
yeah.
Well,
you
could
fit
the
movie,
it
was
a
suitable
site,
but
that's
that
is
not
the
case
and
that
hasn't
been
proven
tonight
and
I'm
afraid
that
the
argument's
for
and
against
Pips,
we
all
understand
I.
Just
can't
I
can't
bring
myself
to
vote
with
the
recommendation.
A
AH
O
Thank
you,
Jay
yeah,
I'm
afraid
we
would
need
more
precise
reason
than
just
saying
it's
not
suitable
for
development.
I
mean
clearly
the
applicant
needs
to
be
very
clear
on
what
your
reasons
are.
They
will
have
a
right
of
appeal
against
any
refusal,
and-
and
you
know
you
do
need
to
be
very
clear
on
the
reasons
why,
having
listened
to
the
advisors
and
I've,
given
you
on
what
matters
you
can
consider
at
this
stage.
AH
Hey
I,
I
personally
I,
don't
think
it's
suitable
because
of
the
the
lack
of
public
transport,
the
just
the
whole
inaccessibility.
AH
O
But
so
so
in
essence,
I
think
Casa
Freeman
is
saying
that
the
location
is
not
suitable
because
it's
in
an
unsustainable
location.
A
A
There
we
go.
Could
you
confirm
thank.
A
A
Yeah
could
I
have
your
attention
for
a
second
place.
It's
nearly
9
30.
Is
everybody
too
happy
to
continue
for
we've
got
one
more
to
do
so.
It's
everybody
happy
to
continue
with
the
meeting.
I
should
think
we'll
be
done
by
10
o'clock.
Good.
Thank
you.
In
that
case
item
number
nine
one
cobbits
view
Berkeley
and
Sue.
J
Thank
you
chair.
This
is
an
application
for
the
conversion
of
The
Loft
at
number
one
cobbit's
view
it
just
brings
your
attention
that
this
scheme
since
submitted,
has
been
amended,
and
it
no
longer
includes
the
Juliet
Balcony,
which
was
in
the
rear,
Gable
elevation
and
the
off
there's
no
update
and
the
officer's
recommendation
is
for
approval
foreign.
A
We
have
no
speakers
which
is
good,
so
questions
to
officers.
A
O
A
A
That's
it.
Thank
you
very
much
everybody.
It's
been
a
horribly
messy
evening,
and
but
thank
you
all
and
thank
you
very
much
to
the
officers
for
their
patience.