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A
A
A
A
You
can't
you
don't
have
to
sign
in.
If
you
want
to
sign
in
you,
can
it's
not
mandatory
and
try
to
keep
it
to
five
minutes
and
state
your
case
and
step
forward?
Who
was
number
one.
D
D
This
morning
last
night,
City
commission
meeting,
we
did
pass
a
resolution
offering
support
to
find
funding
to
keep
the
pool
in
operation,
and
it's
at
this
time
it's
not
a
a
promise
of
any
funds
and
not
saying
that
it
wouldn't
be
down
the
road,
but
just
asking
for
a
chance
to
sit
down
and
talk
about
what
could
be
done.
Look
for
Grants
outside
sources
for
what
you
need.
D
I
just
wanted
to
read
that
resolution
to
you
for
the
record
sure
of
commissioner
nichvetsky,
whereas
it
is
on
the
Bay
County
Board
of
commission
agenda
for
Tuesday
March
21st
to
discuss
closing
the
swimming
pool
at
the
community
center
and
whereas
the
pool
is
a
valuable
asset
to
all
of
Bay
County
and
whereas
money,
Bay,
City
and
Bay
County
residents
are
expressing
their
feelings
and
desire
to
keep
the
swimming
pool
open.
D
Be
it
resolved
that
the
city
of
Bay
City
commission
supports
the
Community
Center
swimming
pool.
We
recognize
this
as
a
valuable
asset
to
the
community
and
desire
of
Desire
the
opportunity
to
assist
Bay
County
in
seeking
the
needed
outside,
grant
funding
and
form
a
plan
of
action
to
keep
the
swimming
pool
open
for
2023
and
many
more
years
into
the
future.
F
F
E
Hi
I'm
Catherine,
hammy
I
live
in
Bangor,
Township
and
I'm
asking
the
Commissioners.
This
is
in
regards
to
the
swimming
pool.
To
please
please
just
table
the
issue
give
us
some
time.
We
were
kind
of
blindsided
that
it
feels
like
it's
a
done
deal.
It's
very
disappointing.
I
feel
like
it's
a
done
deal
and
we're
just
asking
to
please
table
it.
Give
us
time.
There's
grants
out
there,
I
I
researched
the
spark
Grant
and
it
is
eligible
for
outdoor
swimming
pools.
It's
it's
a
competitive
Grant,
but
it
it's
available.
E
If
we
try
there's
a
Bay,
City,
Community,
Foundation,
Wellness,
Grant
region,
seven,
we
gotta
look
into
Dao
Dupont
Saginaw,
Chippewa,
Indian
Tribe.
There's,
there's
grants
out
there.
We
just
need
some
time.
If
you
could
please
just
table
it,
it
would
be
much
appreciated.
We're
asking
for
collaboration
with
the
city,
the
county,
the
YMCA,
maybe
the
Boys
and
Girls
Club
region.
Seven,
there's
there's
ideas
and
options
out
there,
and
if
we
could
get
some
grant
money,
some
fundraising
maybe
put
a
small
millage
on
the
ballot.
It's
a
we're.
E
G
Hi,
my
name
is
Kathy
shell
I
emailed
most
of
you
a
couple
days
ago,
and
what
I'm
going
to
do
is
just
read
what
I
wrote
so
that
people
here
can
hear
what
I
had
to
say.
G
My
feeling
is
that
a
pool
is
an
important
part
of
a
community
that
will
attract
people
here.
So
if
we
are
to
attract
and
retain
young
professionals
and
their
families,
our
community
needs
to
provide
the
amenities
they
desire.
A
pool
is
one
of
these.
Additionally,
it
is
important
to
provide
opportunities
which
promote
Healthy,
Lifestyles
and
exercise
to
our
current
residents.
G
Many
can't
afford
or
don't
want
a
Y
membership.
It
appears
that
as
County
Commissioners,
you
are
making
a
decision
to
eliminate
the
only
community
pool
in
Bay
County
without
the
input
of
the
citizens.
This
decision
affects,
if
the
concerns
about
the
cost
to
repair
and
replace
the
pool
would
have
been
shared
with
the
community
earlier
I
feel
a
committee
could
have
been
formed
to
help
raise
the
needed
funds.
G
G
I,
have
you
as
invested
investigated,
the
grants
available
was
any
of
the
coven
money
from
Washington
considered
for
this
project,
where
the
maintenance
issues
that
sound,
like
they're,
significant,
continually
addressed
in
a
timely
manner
before
cost
became
so
prohibitive.
Did
you
reach
out
to
community
members
before
proposing
the
pool
closure?
G
G
As
far
as
the
decline
in
pool
use,
I
feel
many
in
our
community
are
not
even
aware
pool
exists,
especially
after
coveted
closures
and
the
lack
of
operating
hours
last
summer
and
more
robust
outreach
program
could
be
helpful.
Furthermore,
partnering
with
organizations
such
as
the
Boys
and
Girls
Club,
Scout,
Troops
and
Etc
could
also
be
helpful
and
bring
people
in
learning
to
swim
is
an
important
life
skill
that
should
be
available
to
all
at
an
affordable
cost.
G
The
decision
to
close
the
only
community
pool
in
Bay
County
is
significant
and
warrants
input
from
those
affected.
I
sincerely
hope
that
you
and
all
the
commissioners
will
reconsider
this
decision
at
least
table
it
and
allow
more
Community
Voices
to
be
heard
before
finalizing
the
future
of
the
community
center
pool.
Thank
you
thank.
A
H
So
hello,
my
name
is
Raymond
Barber
from
from
frankenlas
Township
Tom
you're.
My
commissioner
I
think
yes,
hi
I
came
here
in
regards
to
the
pool
as
I
assume
many
of
the
community
members
have
I
just
want
to
make
my
thoughts
known
that
you
know.
H
I
never
knew
this
pool
even
existed,
but
with
that
being
said,
I've
had
a
lot
of
friends
that
I've
grown
up
with
who
have
lived
on
fixed
incomes
and
who
wanted
to
have
those
experiences
to
do
what
everyone
else
does
go
somewhere
for
free
be
able
to
swim,
especially
in
that
area,
making
it
accessible
the
pool,
I
see
I
could
see
being
something
for
that
for
people
it
would
be
an
awful
shame
to
have
it
taken
away.
I'm
very
politically
engaged.
H
Some
of
you
might
know
me,
I've
traveled,
all
over
this
country,
going
to
be
politically
active
as
as
much
as
I
can-
and
you
know,
I
didn't
know
about
this,
but
you
guys,
as
Commissioners,
have
a
chance
to
let
the
public
have
comment
over
this
to
let
them
know
what
you've
been
doing,
because
I
know
you
guys
have
been
doing
the
work
day
in
day
out,
probably
every
month
for,
however
many
years,
but
the
community
just
learned
about
this,
and
if
it's
happening
this
meeting
to
close
this
down
right
now.
H
I
I
I
understand
that
you
know
we
might
be
far
along
and
it
might
be
a
done
deal,
but
the
issue
is
that
the
public
hasn't
had
a
chance
to
input
with
that.
I
I
So
whether
that's
searching
for
Grants
Community
funding,
state
federal
being
creative
in
funding
options,
all
those
things
need
to
be
looked
at
and
giving
the
community
opportunity
to
voice
their
thoughts
and
give
you
their
ideas,
because
there
could
be
things
that
haven't
been
thought
of
and
if
they
haven't
thought
of
and
they're
not
viable
they're,
just
giving
them
the
option
to
know
that
those
have
been
thought
out.
It's
just
really
important.
It's
for
them
to
be
a
part
of
it.
I
It's
the
community
center
has
been
around
for
a
long
time
when
I
first
moved
to
Bay
City
in
1987.
That
was
one
of
the
first
places
I
went
and
where
I
met
some
of
my
first
friends.
That's
where
my
daughter
had
her
swimming
lessons
when
she
was
a
little
girl.
We've
always
spent
a
lot
of
time
over
there
and
in
the
neighborhood
and
as
a
city
resident.
It's
just
you
know,
west
side,
it's
always
what
we
have
done
and
what
the
kids
like
write,
a
passage
for
the
kids
and
I
know
beyond
that.
I
There's
a
lot
of
other
activities
that
take
place
there
as
far
as
training
and
classes
and
lessons
and
things
like
that.
So,
like
I
said,
maybe
it's
too
far
gone,
but
I
think
that
everyone
needs
the
opportunity
and
the
option
to
really
spend
some
time
searching
out
all
the
all
the
possible
Alternatives.
So
I,
thank
you
for
your
time
and
hopefully
that
we
can
make
some
good
progress
with
this.
Thank
you.
J
Hello,
kids,
my
name
is
Brian
Krause
I
am
the
executive
director
at
Habitat
for
Humanity
and
I'm,
actually
not
talking
about
the
pool,
I
hope.
That's:
okay,
yeah
I'm,
just
meeting
a
lot
of
you
guys
for
the
first
time,
I
just
want
to.
Let
you
guys
know
that
Habitat
for
Humanity
is
getting
ready
to
build
four
brand
new
houses
in
Bay
County,
there's
there'll
be
affordable
houses.
J
They
will
cost
well
over
200
000,
but
we'll
be
selling
them
to
people
for
around
120
130
000,
so
families
that
are
Alice,
family
and
stuff
will
be
able
to
afford
them.
We
also
for
veterans.
We
are
within
the
next
three
years,
we'll
have
over
1.5
million
dollars
in
funding
to
help
veterans
with
critical
home
repairs
and
we'll
also
be
building
some
houses
for
them.
J
So
if
anybody
knows
what
that
needs
help
make
sure
they
get
a
hold
of
Habitat
for
Humanity
and
we'll
be
doing
that
in
the
last
three
years,
we've
we've
done
over
165
critical
home
repairs
for
people,
including
new
roofs.
Electrical
we
put
over
70
furnaces
in
we've,
helped
over
60
veterans
with
major
repairs
and
we've
never
charged
them.
J
A
penny
to
do
that
and
we're
going
to
be
getting
ready
to
hire
two
new
employees
in
Bay
County,
with
the
with
building
this
houses
were
building
a
new
hiring
new
grant
writer
and
project
manager,
and
we're
always
looking
for
volunteers,
so
I
just
kind
of
wanted
to
introduce
myself
to
you
all
and
say.
Thank
you
very
much.
I
will
say,
though,
when
I
was
a
kid.
I
did
love
that
pool
I
did
sleep
thanks.
K
L
I
am
Henry
schoenbeck
14
years
old,
I
go
to
John
Glenn
High
School,
and
the
community
center
has
been
a
very
big
part
of
my
life.
It's
been
what
I've
been
looking
forward
to
all
school
year
going
into
my
summer,
and
this
year
last
year,
I
was
was
my
last
year
doing
the
community
center
I.
Did
the
rec
program
I
learned
to
swim
a
little
bit.
There
I
took
some
swimming
lessons
which
I
very
much
enjoyed
and
I
swim
for
the
base.
L
I
was
swimming
in
that
pool
and
it
kind
of
it
it's
a
big
part
of
this
city
and
this
summer,
I'm
looking
if
it
still
ends
up
being
open,
I
am
going
to
be
lifeguarding
and
I
want
to
be
there
to
support
the
pool
and
I.
Think
if
you
give
this
pool
a
chance,
it
could
be
a
big
part
of
other
kids
lives
same
as
a
touched
mind.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
M
M
I
am
also
vice
president
of
Canada
Center
Avenue,
neighborhood
association,
which
is
a
a
bit
of
a
misnomer,
because
it's
not
just
Center
Avenue,
the
historic
district
goes
and
I
should
know
off
the
top
of
my
head.
I
don't,
but
it
goes
south
like
to
Columbus
and
then
includes
Carroll
Park
area.
So
it
includes
800
dwellings
and
we
are
concerned
with
the
old
houses
and
preserving
those
because
they
are
such
an
asset
to
Bay.
City
people
know
about
us
all
over
the
state.
M
We
have
people
retiring
here
that
come
from
out
of
state
because
it's
such
a
wonderful
place
to
be
there's
so
much
to
do
here
and
the
housing
is
so
affordable
really
by
other
standards.
So
that
takes
me
to
the
swimming
pool.
I
think
it
is
a
tremendous
asset
for
Bay
City
and
something
that
really
needs
to
be
preserved.
If
at
all
possible,
we
have
a
daughter
who
swam
there
with
Mike
from
the
time
she
was
eight
until
she
was
in
college.
M
She
would
come
home
in
the
Summers
and
swim
there
with
babes,
and
so
I
mean
it's
just
a
wonderful
asset.
It
gives
kids
such
an
outlet
for
summer
activities
and
for
all
the
kids,
even
if
you're
not
in
the
swim
team.
It's
a
wonderful
place
to
spend
your
hot
afternoons
in
the
summer,
so
please
consider
tabling
it
and
coming
back
to
it
and
giving
us
more
chance
to
approach
you.
N
I
know
the
suspense
is
building
as
I
write
my
address
yeah,
so
I'm
I'm,
obviously
here
to
speak
about
the
pool
and
my
concerns
with
the
situation
and
just
to
radiate.
Maybe
some
of
the
points
that
that
were
raised
earlier,
that
I
may
have
missed,
because
I
was
late.
My
apologies,
but
you
know
I
I,
want
to
urge
this.
N
This
Commission
in
the
county
to
look
at
all
avenues
possible
via
partnering,
with
municipalities
via
looking
for
grant
money
to
to
save
refurbish
and
keep
the
pool
in
some
way
shape
or
form
for
the
current
generation
for
further
future
generations
to
use
you
know,
I
know
for
a
fact.
Midland
has
recently
I
think
was
in
the
last
couple
years
of
one
million
dollar
Grant
to
do
work
on
their
pool.
They
have
a
lovely
facility
every
year,
we're
competing
with
the
surrounding
areas,
building
more
specific
to
bring
people
in
business
here
to
Bay
City.
Okay.
N
So
if
we
do
away
with
that
one
amenity
does
it
handicap
us
cripples
when
it
pretty
pursuing
people
moving
and
businesses
moving
to
the
area
it
kind
of
does
there's
one
less
amenity.
We
have
to
offer
I've
been
a
nomad,
I
traveled,
all
around
the
world
and
all
around
the
United
States,
my
entire
life,
and
one
thing
that
I've
always
noticed
in
communities
that
were
of
a
good,
upstanding
and
very
thriving
and
stuff
was
the
amenities
that
it
offered
its
Community
one
of
these
being
a
public
pool.
Okay.
N
On
top
of
that,
I
think
this
speaks
to
an
even
bigger
problem
and
that's
the
lack
of
investment
in
our
infrastructure
and
our
facilities.
What's
going
to
be
next,
that's
going
to
come
down
the
line
where
the
general
public
here
is
going
to
get
a
last
minute
notice
that
guess
what
the
county
is
going
to
take
away
this
or
take
away
that,
because
for
five
six
seven
eight
years
we've
just
let
it
slip
to
the
Wayside,
not
maintaining
it
because
of
some
perceived
lack
of
use.
N
So
on
top
of
that,
in
addition
to
urging
the
the
commission
to
pursue
Avenues
to
save
this
pool,
I
want
you
guys
to
look
and
get
ahead
of
what
other
resources
out
there
in
the
community
are
in
Risk
Jeopardy
of
being
done
away
with.
And
how
can
we
get
ahead
of
the
ball
and
prevent
that
from
happening?
So,
let's
start
being
productive
about
maintaining
our
resources,
pursuing
Avenues
of
funding
and
support?
N
Not
just
you
know:
county-wide
statewise,
but
nationally,
okay,
I
know,
I
work
in
project
management,
work,
project
management
for
almost
15
16
years
now
for
federal
facilities.
These
things
just
don't
sneak
up
on
you,
okay,
there's
a
little
inklings
here
and
there
of
general
maintenance
stuff
that
needs
to
be
done
to
prevent
situations
like
we
have
right
now
and
I.
Don't
want
to
see
that
happen
to
this
pool.
I
don't
want
to
see
this
happen
to
any
of
the
other
resources
in
the
county.
N
A
O
I'm
running
in
support
of
keeping
the
Bay
County
Community
Center
pool
open.
Please
share
this
pertinent
information
with
County
Commissioners,
Community,
Center
Director
and
any
citizens
of
income
who
are
against
the
cost
of
continuing
to
fund
the
community
center
pool
area.
Swim.
Coaches
have
always
believed
that
Serena
is
a
life
skill.
First,
in
a
sports
second
continuing
to
fund
the
public
pool,
has
no
numerous
positive
effects
on
our
entire
community.
O
Pools,
provide
opportunities
for
education
purposes,
swim
lessons,
scoop,
dive,
scuba,
dive,
lessons,
competitive
swim
teams
and
rescue
diet
training.
The
pool
can
be
used
as
a
place
for
rehabilitation
to
assist
individuals
with
medical
conditions
and
or
injuries.
It's
a
cause
friendly
place
for
families
to
come
together
to
escape
on
a
hot
summer
day.
Pools
are
not
just
for
social
interaction
in
Michigan
we
are
always
6.2
miles
or
left
from
a
body
of
water.
O
Drowning
is
the
number
one
cause
of
injury
related
death
for
children's
ages,
one
to
four
and
the
number
two
cause
for
injury,
related
deaths
for
children,
ages,
5
through
14..
Second,
only
to
car
accidents,
drownings
are
preventable.
Learning
to
swim
is
the
First
Defense
community
pools.
Also
assist
in
combating
child
obesity
and
in
at-risk
areas
such
as
Bay
County,
where
child
obesity
rates
continue
to
rise.
O
P
P
I,
don't
have
a
speech
prepared,
I
apologize
but
I'm
coming
here
to
speak
on
behalf
of
the
pool
as
well
and
I've
been
a
swim
coach
or
have
been
a
swim
coach
in
this
community
for
a
long
time,
I
swam
for
people
behind
me
I
see
one
of
my
swimmers
sitting
up
there.
All
right
and
I've
watched
over
the
years.
Kids
go
off
to
college
and
get
scholarships
because
of
this
I've
watched
lives
be
changed
and
I.
Think
there's
a
lot
of
short-sightedness
going
around
right.
P
Now,
there's
a
lot
of
slash
and
burn.
Let's
just
get
rid
of
it.
If
you
close
it
you're
not
going
to
get
it
back.
You
won't
I
talked
to
my
grandma,
who
was
instrumental
in
a
lot
of
this.
It
took
decades
to
get
that
pool
built
and,
if
you're
in
the
spot
right
now,
you're
not
going
to
get
it
back
once
you
fill
it
in.
It's
gone.
P
If
you
look
at
civilizations,
they're
known
by
their
infrastructure,
the
Romans,
the
Greeks
Etc,
those
people
that
destroy
they're,
the
ones
that
we
don't
want
to
look
at
in
history,
the
ones
that
build
things
are
The
Visionaries.
If
I
were
you
I'd
be
trying
to
build
the
best
facility
I?
Can
why
try
and
destroy
it?
Is
that
what
you
want
to
be
known
for,
because
I
want
to
tell
you
this?
This
is
just
a
small
sampling
of
what's
being
spoken
about
this
issue
in
the
community.
P
P
P
I
worked
60
hours
a
week
at
that
pool
60
hours
a
week
to
put
myself
through
college
I
watched
other
people
put
them
through
Subs
through
Michigan
State
by
being
a
lifeguard
there,
and
the
reason.
Why
is
because
there
was
kids
there
all
day
and
they
could
afford
to
go
there
and
it
wasn't
some
country
club
or
something
like
that.
It
was
open
to
everybody.
You
want
to
know
what
once
the
pool
closed,
I
spent
another
two
hours
there
coaching
swim
lessons
because
swim
lessons
were
packed.
P
You
want
the
pool
to
stay
open,
open
it
up.
Think
through
this.
Why
am
I
going
to
choose
and
I
I
was
a
public
school
teacher
and
I
heard
that
you
know
schools
are
struggling
for
enrollment
right
now.
Why?
Because
people
are
moving
elsewhere
and
where
are
they
going?
Where
there's
infrastructure,
where
there's
jobs,
where
there's
things
going
on?
So
if
I'm,
a
young
family
which
I
have
two
young
children
here
in
this
community,
why
do
I
want
to
stay
where's?
My
kids
going
to
swim,
I!
Look
back
here,
I
see
swim.
P
A
Foreign
body
else,
that's
number
one.
Anybody
else.
That's
number
two
last
call
close
public
comment
at
this
point
in
time.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
all
for
commenting
and
coming
we'll
move
on
to
a
presentation
on
Camp
grilling
opposition
to
expansion.
F
F
F
If
the
noise
is
significant,
yet
we
accept
it,
we
accept
it
because
we
feel
it's
our
responsibility
to
have
trained
troops.
So
we
accept
the
current
training
of
Camp.
Grayling
I.
Tell
you
this
because
we're
not
anti-military
where
anti-expansion
and
that's
a
big
difference,
not
anti-military
anti-expansion.
F
F
F
Expansion
goes
as
far
south
as
Roscommon
County,
Roscommon
County
houses.
What
Higgins
and
Houghton
Lakes
there's
many
people
from
Bay
County
that
have
cabins
in
those
areas.
There's
many
people
from
Bay
County
that
take
a
day
trip
to
those
areas,
we're
very
blessed
in
Bay
County
to
have
the
north
so
close
to
us.
We
hop
on
I-75
or
U.S
23
and
in
an
hour
to
two
hours,
we're
there
to
enjoy
Northern
Michigan
Pure
Michigan
as
our
state
advertises
and
that's
how
we
want
to
keep
it.
F
F
Road
commissions
and
health
departments
that
are
opposed
to
this,
they
have
written
resolutions
of
opposition
to
the
expansion
100
of
the
governmental
units
within
the
expansion
area
itself,
100
of
them
have
written
a
resolution
to
opposed
Camp
grayling.
Yet
the
DNR
director,
who
makes
the
final
decision
on
this
continues
to
consider
this
resolution.
F
You'll
notice
to
the
right
or
to
the
right
to
the
east
is
Tuscola
County,
our
neighbor,
and
they
are
in
red.
Now
they
adopted
a
resolution
to
oppose
this
expansion
last
week
and
here
on
County.
It
has
it
on
their
agenda
for
next
week
to
vote
on
it.
F
I
would
love
to
see
my
home
area
of
Bay
County
read
on
this
map.
I
have
sent
a
resolution
in
and
I
hope
that
you
will
seriously
consider
adapting
this
resolution
to
oppose
the
expansion
of
Camp
Grayling
and
to
make
a
motion
to
go
forward
with
that
I.
Thank
you
for
your
time
and
consideration
and
I
would
like
you
to
hear
from
my
friend
and
colleague,
Mike
McNamara,
who
is
a
retired,
lieutenant
colonel
with
Camp
grayling.
Q
Good
afternoon
everyone,
my
name,
is
Jim
Knight
Mike
is
going
to
follow
me
here:
I'm,
an
elected
official
from
Bear
Lake
Township
in
Kalkaska
County
and
currently,
as
Kathy
stated,
that
this
is
the
the
largest
training
area
in
the
country.
Q
In
my
Township
there
are
17
square
miles
that
are
set
aside
for
training
and
during
Northern
strike,
which
is
an
annual
event
in
my
in
the
area
I
experienced,
as
many
of
my
constituents
did,
I
saw
the
clear
military
presence
that
was
not
normally
in
the
training
areas,
particularly
and
you're,
going
to
see
these
pictures
of
an
Ohio
National
Guard
unit
that
was
going
down,
the
Manistee
River
on
a
training
aisle,
and
this
is
in
the
Flies
only
or
the
holy
water
considered
by
the
Manistee
River
and
the
Fly
fisherman.
Q
Q
So,
like
Kathy
said,
we
are
going
from
County
to
County,
Mike
and
I
have
been
to
the
thumb
area.
We
are
hoping
to
possibly
go
to
Sanilac
and
Sinclair
counties.
We
would
like
to
see
the
map
turn
red
from
the
thumb
all
the
way
to
the
bridge
which
Sheboygan
County
touches
the
bridge.
We
would
certainly
like
to
see
your
support.
Q
Hopefully
you
can
get
that
on
your
agenda
and
and
get
this
through
right
now,
as
Kathy
has
stated,
the
director
of
the
DNR
has
to
say
so
to
put
this
forward
and
right
now
we're
waiting
for
that
decision.
We've
heard
that
they
are
talking
to
the
tribal
people
right
now,
so
we
are
taking
the
advantage
of
this
lull
time
to
get
more
counties
involved,
to
show
Lansing
and
the
people
that
really
are
pushing
for
this.
Q
That
we
do
not
want
this
in
northern
Michigan,
and
not
only
us,
but
anybody
that's
in
this
room
that
goes
up
and
recreates
into
tens
of
thousands
that
go
up
up
in
our
area
and
possibly
could
have
places
up
north.
They
may
not
know
about
this,
and
that
is
a
very
deep
concern
for
us.
They
have.
They
have
the
right
to
know,
what's
going
to
happen
or
potentially
is
going
to
happen
in
there.
Q
R
Yeah,
just
in
case
you
know,
I
heard
about
this,
but
what
what
is
the
so?
This
is
all
federal
land
that
they're
talking
about
right
is
this
federal
land
they
wanted.
It's.
Q
They
say
they
wanted:
they
need
it
for
training
they
needed
for
training,
but
we
have
not
seen
the
reasons
why
they
need
it.
In
writing.
Q
There
are
right
now
they
have
230
square
miles
or
148
000
square
acres
to
train
on
a
significant
amount
of
that
acreage
that
they
have
is
not
even
being
used.
So
if
we
we
know
that,
for
a
fact,
approximately
70
000
acres
are
not
being
used
by
the
camp
right
now,
so
we
cannot
see
any
reason
why
they
would
ask
for
162
000
acre
in
addition,
which
would
give
them
483
square
miles
to
train
in
and
essentially
turn
Northern
Michigan
into
into
a
militarized
training
area.
Okay,.
G
S
S
Land
that
they
have
right
now
that
are
running
for
a
disgustingly,
inexpensive
rate
of
150.
That's
both
in
the
magazine
for
150
a
day
for
3
000,
Acres,
so
experimental
military
equipment,
lasers,
electronic
warfare
and
who
knows
what
else
can
be
used
on
our
public
lands
that
that's
really
the
big
thing,
sir
I
think
Jim
Jim
didn't
really
quite
get
there.
Q
Thank
you
yeah,
it's
it's
that
deep
business
magazine
article,
it's
electronic
warfare
and
today
it's
electronic
warfare
and
if
you
just
Google
that
you
can
get
an
idea,
what
we're
talking
about
it's,
the
health
and
and
Welfare
of
the
people
within
the
area
and
for
God
knows
what's
going
to
happen
to
the
environment.
Cam
Grayling
has
a
very
poor
record
of
environment
and
environmental
Endeavors
or
that'll
act
thereof.
So
that's
what
our
concerns
are
not
only
from
the
environment.
Q
We
have
three
river
systems:
the
Muskegon,
the
Manistee
and
the
Ausable
River
systems
and
the
thousands
of
Acres
of
public
land
that
they
want
to
have
access
to
and
in
light
of
the
PIFA
contamination
in
in
Crawford
County.
We
don't
want
anything
else
happening
in
this
pristine
areas
and
the
area
where
we
recreate
in
and
probably
you
do
too
were.
R
You
stationed
up
there
pardon
me,
were
you
stationed
up
there?
He
is
oh
okay,
so
you
see
what
do
you
see
different
though
I
mean
what
I
mean?
Is
it
well
how's
the
chance
they
do
anything
different
now
than
they
did
10
years
ago?.
S
T
S
Mortar
range,
all
that's
the
same.
The
difference
is
that
there's
a
move,
a
foot
to
turn
that
into
a
Proving
Ground,
and
we
don't
know,
what's
really
going
to
happen.
They
claim
this
for
soldiers,
but
even
when
the
DNR
director
made
a
public
comment
during
a
hearing
from
the
rural
development
and
agriculture
board
to
Ken
board
our
state
center,
she
talked
about
electronic
warfare
or
electromagnetic
testing.
S
She
sure
didn't
talk
about
training,
so
it's
not
about
the
soldiers
it's
about
these
for-profit
businesses
and
if
we
look
at
average,
improving
grown
or
all
the
other
Army
improving
grounds
out
there
that
are
already
super
fun
sites.
Those
are
already
contaminated.
That's
where
these
training
lands
should
be
at
not
in
our
public
taken
away
from
all
of
us.
Our
public
lands,
I
kind
of
got
off
topic
a
little
bit,
but
did
I
answer
your
questions.
That's.
S
Name
is
Mike
Mcenroe
and
I'm,
a
retired,
lieutenant
colonel
and
I'm
a
legacy
Soldier
as
well
my
dad,
also
retired,
as
a
colonel
from
Camp
Grayling
and
worked
in
the
National
Guard.
He
did
38
years
I
had
in
28
years,
I'm
combat
veteran
and
if
I
thought
for
one
minute,
if
I
thought
for
one
minute,
this
would
save
one
soldier's
life
I've
been
a
first
guy
person
to
stand
in
line
and
support
this
expansion,
but
it's
not
about
it's
not
about
training
the
soldier.
It's
about.
S
Turning,
like
I,
said
turning
Campground
into
a
Proving
Ground
or
a
light
Proving
Ground
And.
Even
in
that
deep
business
magazine
they
talk
about
these
contractors.
These
testers
talk
about
the
ability
to
do
stuff.
Without
someone
looking
over
your
shoulder
now
that
that's
twofold,
you
don't
have
environmental
folks
and
you
don't
have
range
control
folks.
You
can't
really
folks
looking
over
your
shoulder,
but
you
don't
have
big
big
government
contracts,
Contracting
officers,
looking
over
shoulder
what
you're
really
doing
I
there's
some
pictures
floating
around
there
and
I'll
explain
those
in
a
little
bit.
S
I,
don't
know
if
anybody's
had
a
chance
to
see
them.
Those
pictures
are
from
the
lack
of
what's
what
they're
allowing
soldiers
to
do
right
now.
They
have
no
Campground
has
no
control
of
what's
really
happening.
There
are
good
neighbor
policies
that
they're
violating
daily
during
training.
They
have
troops
going
down
rivers
that
are
not
training
land
with
machine
guns,
even
though
they
are
blanks
they.
How
would
you
like
to
be
the
little
old
lady
drinking
or
tati
Sunday
afternoon
at
four
o'clock
and
seeing
that
going
through
in
your
front
yard?
S
That's
not
training
land
I
mean
if
that
was
training
land
she
bought
it.
She
had
a
she
had
to
suck
it
up.
That's
not
that's
not
it!
That's
not
even
training
that
that's
just
regular
old
state
land
with
private
property
on
the
river
and
intermixed
with
it.
You
see
some
pictures
of
Constantino
wire
and
my
buddy's
dogs,
High
School
classmate
of
mine.
His
dogs
got
torn
up
because
Constantino
wire,
which
is
razor
wire
ma'am,
just
like
outside
of
Prisons,
was
left.
Now
we
all
make
mistakes,
but
this
isn't
a
wanted.
S
Onesie
enthusi
thing,
I've
pulled
up
hundreds
and
hundreds
of
yards
in
Skeeter,
the
guy
that
owns
the
dogs
have
done
the
same
thing
and
hooked
them
hooked
that
wire
on
the
back
gate
because
they
leave
it
there
and
that's
one
of
the
violations
that
the
inrs,
if
they
have
a
couple
of
those
written
a
contract,
written
a
lease
if
they
do
that
they
lose
the
lease,
but
nothing's
ever
documented
another's
ever
enforced.
It's
just
never
followed
through.
You
wonder
why
there's
pictures
of
of
Army
and
Marine
trucks
going
up
and
down
this
blacktop
Road?
S
Why
is
that
a
big
deal
just
because
it's
parked
right
next
to
a
sign
that
says
no
military
vehicles,
I
pay
a
special
assessment.
That's
my
road
I
pay
a
special
special
assessment
because
it's
grilling,
we
have
80
80,
85
percent
public
land,
so
any
rule
that
gets
paved.
We
have
to
pay
for
it,
I'm,
not
so
petty
to
say
that
somebody
can't
use
the
road,
but
they
don't
pay
tax.
They
don't
pay
tax
on
fuel,
they
don't
so
they
don't
follow
their
own
public
policies.
So
that's
kind
of
the
point:
I
could
go
on.
S
I
could
write
a
dissertation,
but
you
know
there's
things
in
Bay
County
that
are
having
a
nice
as
I
heard
this
morning
or
this
afternoon
that
are
near
and
dear
to
your
heart.
Why
does
Bay
County
really
care
about
the
campground
expansion?
It's
been
said
this
rocks
down
a
chocolate
is
in
Bay
counties.
I
know
you
guys
barely
have
any
public
state
land
here.
S
That
is
your
first
Avenue.
Your
first
ability
to
recreate
without
being
impeded
upon
the
guard
has
said
a
number
of
occasions.
Nothing
will
change.
We
won't
block
off
any
roads.
We
won't
put
up
any
fences,
we're
not
going
to
put
up
any
buildings,
but
they
use
key
buzzwords
like
our
intent
is
not
to.
S
If
I
was
going
to
make
eggs
in
the
Army
there's
a
book,
that's
this
thick
on
how
to
make
eggs.
If,
if
we're
going
to
talk
about
a
documentation
and
the
reasons
why
that
camp
grilling
needs
this
land
there's
they
study
things
to
the
hunt
degree,
there
is
no
documentation
been
provided
or
that's
out
there.
In
my
research
and
when
this
question
has
been
asked
at
every
public
meeting,
there
is
no
documentation
of
why
they
need
this.
S
They
say
they
need
it
for
electromagnetic
Warfare
training,
but
again
they
won't
tell
you
that
won't
give
you
anything,
because
it's
really
about
these
contractors.
So
they
say
it's
a
need.
Yes,
sir.
Thank
you
very
much
appreciate
your
time.
I
ask
you
to
do
a
resolution
supporting
the
wrestling
51
communities.
Thank
you.
A
Other
questions
anybody
else
have
questions
here
by
the
way.
I
just
have
a
quick
comment.
So
I
made
a
call
today,
the
DNR
director
has
not
made
a
statement
yet
he's
supposed
to
be.
It
was
supposed
to
do
at
the
end
of
February,
but
he
didn't
do
it
yet
he
contacted
math
Christian
Association
colonies.
As
you
know,
I'm
on
the
board.
Mac
has
not
taken
a
position
on
this,
yet
they
are
looking
at
it.
A
They're
waiting
for
the
DNR
statement,
basically
and
so
I
I,
think
I
talked
to
you
about
receiving
I,
think
receive
and
then
we'll
look
at
it,
and
maybe
we
meet
again
in
a
couple
weeks.
We
can
see
where
things
are
at
and
if
the
DNR
director
comes
out
and
that
the
Native
American
group
comes
out
against
the
two,
then
we
can
make
a
decision.
A
I
would
just
see
the
motion
to
receive
I.
Guess
that's,
okay,
any
more
discussion,
all
those
in
favor
say:
aye,
aye
next
item
of
business
city
of
Bay,
City
application
for
an
obsolete
property,
Rehabilitation
exemption
certificate,
DS
denim
Properties
LLC
the
ocean
to
receive
would
be
in
order
any
more
discussion.
All
in
favor
say:
aye.
A
A
I
just
want
to
add
that
the
bayernack
behavioral
health
board
has
a
nomination
committee.
They
have
reviewed
the
eligibility
of
all
14
and
they
have
found
them
all
to
be
eligible
for
appointment.
So
I
guess
it
would
be
a
combination
to
receive
the
request
for
appointment
and
the
report
from
bayernack
Behavioral
Health
nomination
committee
support
discussion.
A
A
We
have
elected
officials,
we
have
three
are
ready,
so
we're
only
allowed
to
make
three
appointments
of
elected
officials
just
so
you
know.
Okay,
that's
the
only
restriction
we
have
right
now
they
have
enough
of
the
category
b
or
the
receiving
care
category.
A
So
are
there
any
questions?
We
have
people
here
that
can
answer
those
questions
as
everybody
understand,
what
we're
going
to
do,
we're
going
to
do
four
names,
everybody
picks
four
names
have
to
be
four
have
to
receive.
Four
votes
is
the
majority
simple
majority
and
then
we'll
move
on
to
the
the
one
year
term.
A
Any
questions
Heather
looks
a
little
trouble
or
this
is
our
attorney
on
it.
She
wrote
a
nice
write-up
on
it.
It's
a
little
complicated,
but
I
think
we
figured
it
out.
U
A
B
V
K
V
Am
I
Marie
Reese.
A
W
Yeah
bonanzak.
C
Z
AA
AA
A
Me
no
excuse
me,
sorry,
going
down
the
line
here.
Reese
and
nemic
number
eight
right
there.
B
So
three
votes
for
Anderson;
four
votes
for
benaziac;
four
votes
for
Crete;
no
votes
for
Kowalski;
Meyer;
three
votes
for
millet;
no
votes
for
matrimony;
three
votes
for
me;
four
votes
for
nemic;
one
vote
for
Peters;
four
votes
for
race;
two
votes
for
Rider;
no
votes
for
Schwinn;
no
votes
were
shut;
no
votes
for
Taylor;.
B
So
it
looks
like
the
names
who
are
elected
is
benajiak,
Crete,
anemic
and
Rhys
say.
A
R
A
A
A
R
A
All
right,
so
we
have
Melvin
McNally
is
the
incumbent
request
for
reappointment
to
region
seven
area
on
aging
as
Bay
County
representative,
you
must
be
doing
a
good
job
because
nobody
filed
against
him
so
I
guess
we
just
need
a
motion
to
appoint
Melvin
McNally
support.
Z
W
A
W
R
Mr
Harry.
Well,
thank
you
Mr
chairman.
You
know
this
is
I've
had
a
long
time
to
think
about
this.
You
know,
I
I
actually
told
my
wife
today
before
I
left
I
said
you
know,
I
said
I
have
a
hard
time
spending
fifty
dollars
you
know
and
like
in
on
espresso.
It
was
nice
to
have
a
little
time
to
think
about
this
whole
pool
closure
thing
and
what
it
means
to
the
community
and
the
people
in
general,
and
then
I
got
to
thinking.
R
You
know
back
in
the
day,
which
would
have
been
a
long
time
ago.
For
me,
my
kids
took
swim
lessons
at
the
community
center.
They
drove
rode
their
bikes
every
day
from
the
south
end
with
with
their
neighbors
and
I.
Remember
driving
by
there,
sometimes
at
night,
saying
boy
that
water
looks
so
it
just
looks
so
pretty
it's
like
right
up
there
like
a
like
one
of
those
infinity
pools.
You
know
it's
a
it's
a
great
thing
and
then
I'm
thinking
boy.
R
You
know
our
kids,
you
know
what
are
we
doing
for
our
kids
these
days?
They
got
nothing
and
every
and
I
I
Venture
into
the
schools
once
in
a
while
as
a
substitute
teacher
and
I
look
at
a
lot
of
these
kids
and
they
have
nothing
to
do
when
they
a
lot
of
times
when
they
get
out
of
school
and
summertime.
It's
worse.
R
You
know
because
they're
at
least
school
they're
busy
during
the
day
in
the
summertime,
the
things
that
they
can
finally
do
were
sometimes
not
good,
and
this
is
something
that
you
know
gives
them
gives
them
a
little
something
we
have
the
wine,
we
had
the
and
they
have
the
Boy
Scout.
R
But
but
the
pool
is
a
different
kind
of
meeting
place
and
and
I
agree
that
that
when
one
of
the
people
come
up
came
up
and
said
they
talked
about
the
community,
and
you
know
what
are
the
when
people
come
in
the
community?
What
do
they
see?
You
know:
we've
got
that
beautiful
Bandshell
down
there.
You
know
we
got
the
riverfront
on
that
side
and
we
had
the
pool
on
the
other
side
and
granted
this
it
needs
some
work.
There's
no
doubt
about
it.
R
R
On
this
as
a
as
a
commission,
you
know,
I've
been
on
I've,
been
on
the
commission
for
a
few
years
now,
and
one
of
the
things
that
I
always
said,
I
do
is
I
gotta,
listen
to
the
people
because
they're
the
ones
it's
this
is
your
community.
It's
our
community.
You
know
it's,
it's
we're
all
in
this
together
and
if
we
don't
listen
to
you,
then
we
have
no
Community.
I
mean
and
I've
got
enough
phone
calls
and
mail.
Where
I
say
I'm
going
to
go
with
what
the
people
want.
R
A
Y
A
I've
heard
three
or
four
somebody
mentioned
it.
The
other
day
I
tried
to
get
the
exact
number
somebody
said:
Lapeer
had
one,
they
don't
have
one
I
I,
don't
know.
If
anybody
else
has
that
I
I
try
to
get
the
confirmation
I
know
of
Kristen,
maybe
there
aren't
very
many
that
have
their
own
public
pool
so.
Y
AB
X
W
N
R
Hand
up
I
think
I
think
that
I
think
it
takes
some
time
and
meet
with
these
other
community
members
that
are
our
community
and
and
work
for
a
solution.
You
know
that
the
city
has
stepped
forward
already,
and
you
know
they
I
believe.
In
the
end,
there
would
be
some
monetary
support
for
them.
Also
I,
don't
know
how
much,
but
it's
the
right
thing
to
do.
I
mean
if,
if
you're,
if
you're
a
community-minded
person,
I,
don't
know
how
you
how
you
let
this
go,
let
this
happen.
That's
the
best.
V
I
grew
up
on
State
Park
Drive
and
we
use
the
bay
to
learn
to
swim,
and
it
was
a
great
time
and
now,
when
I
look
it's
not
so
great,
and
this
has
been
coming
through
the
years.
It's
not
been
maintained,
it's
my
understanding
and
also
that
there
was
a
problem
getting
lifeguards
last
year
and
I
I
wasn't
sure
about
that.
You
know,
but
anyway,
it's
just
not
sustainable.
V
It
I,
don't
know
what
what
we
can
do.
You
know
so.
W
Thank
you,
Mr,
chair
back
in
2009
there
was
the
previous
commission
there's
a
couple
Commissioners
around
that
committee
that
voter
to
keep
it
open
with
no
additional
money
spent
for
mate,
just
maintenance,
only
nothing
major,
then
we've
had
major
issues
and
some
of
them
are
not
repairable.
W
You
can't
find
parts
for
some
of
this
stuff
leaks
are
leaking
through
the
cracks
or
the
walls.
There's
pipes
underneath
the
pool
that
are
leaking
when
we
feel
the
pool
a
lot
of
the
water
leaks
underneath
the
pool
we've
got
hot
on
this
spots
at
the
end
of
the
pool
underneath
the
pool
I
am
afraid
the
kids
might
put
their
fingers
in
these
cracks.
Somebody's
gonna
get
hurt,
plus
some
Mechanicals.
You
can't
find
parts
for
an
homework,
there's
flanges
in
there.
W
W
It
wasn't.
My
fault
I
didn't
vote
on
it
back
in
2009,
not
putting
any
money
into
it,
but
that
commission
did
and
nothing's
been
done
for
all
these
years.
So
I'm
looking
at
this
I,
say
I'm
looking
out
for
the
taxpayers
as
a
whole.
How
much
money
can
we
invest
for
eight
to
ten
weeks
a
year
outside
to
6
million?
W
I
admit
it
was
neglected
for
many
years,
but
I'm
looking
out
for
it
for
the
best
interest
for
taxpayers
on
on
money,
wise,
there's,
a
work
of
6
million
for
eight
to
ten
weeks
a
year
or
we're
in
right.
Now
we
are
looking
at
other
avenues
that
we
can
utilize.
Maybe
the
schools
pools
in
the
summer
time,
maybe
the
why
to
do
this
school
I
mean
the
swimming
lessons
in
there,
so
we're
already
in
talks
with
the
wife.
A
Sorry,
excuse
me:
we
have
public
comment.
Do
we
want
to
hear
from
Kristen
gignac
Merit?
So
we
have,
we
have
a
person
who
is
our
building
and
grounds
person
he's
been
here
several
years.
She
has
presented
us
information
that
maybe
all
of
you
haven't
heard
so
I'd
like
her
to
present
it
as
it
was
in
the
paper.
It
was
pretty
accurate
in
the
paper
I
gotta
say
thank
you
to
them
for
doing
that.
So
is
that?
Okay,
if
we
let
Kristen
speak
here,
sure
thank
you.
Okay,.
AC
As
you've
heard
today,
it's
been
a
wonderful
addition
to
our
community
over
the
past
50
years
and
along
with
many
supporters,
myself
included,
I
have
a
heart,
Recreation
and
I
know
the
value
of
a
Community
Asset
like
this.
But
what
we
are
facing
right
now
is
a
multitude
of
issues.
We
are
facing
a
combination
of
structural
issues,
mechanical
issues,
supply
issues,
do
the
age
of
the
infrastructure.
AC
We
are
far
too
close
to
safety
issues
for
comfort
and
couple
all
of
these
issues
with
low
usage
over
the
last
five
years
of
policing
anywhere
from
2900
to
4100
guests
total
in
the
summer.
As
you
may
recall,
the
board
considered
closure
of
the
pool
back
in
2009.
As
commissioner
stated,
they
stated
many
of
the
same
concerns
but
also
low
usage.
There
was
low
usage
back
then
too.
Do
the
public
concern.
The
board
ultimately
decide
to
keep
it
open
as
long
as
possible
without
any
significant,
significant
capital
investment,
and
we
made
it
13
Seasons.
AC
After
that,
budgetary
estimates
from
a
michigan-based
pool
company
put
our
structural
repairs
at
about
2
million
and
a
full,
incomplete
replacement
of
the
pool,
and
the
exact
footprint
that
we
have
right
now
would
cost
somewhere
between
five
and
six
million.
Based
on
the
situation
we
are
facing,
with
structural
and
mechanical
issues,
the
exorbitant
cost
to
repair
replace
coupled
with
low
usage
and
the
ability
to
only
use
this
asset
eight
to
nine
weeks
a
year.
It
is
my
recommendation
to
close
and
remove
the
community
center
pool.
AC
AA
Thank
you,
Mr
fire,
yes,
I'd,
like
to
add
I,
took
a
tour
of
the
pool
and
it
definitely
is
huge
repair
Mike.
My
concern
is
the
safety.
By
also
my
concern
is
the
money
that
is
going
to
be
what
it's
going
to
cost.
You
know
to
keep
the
pool
open,
even
if
we
are
able
to
get
the
parts
get
materials
and
things
that
we
need
in
order
to
get
that
full
save
and
operational.
Y
R
V
X
I
say
I'm
in
the
fourth
district
and
that's
the
entire
west
side
of
Bay
City
and
part
of
Bangor
Township.
My
phone
has
been
blowing
up
so
I'm,
representing
them
there
who
put
me
in
office
and
after
all,
this
discussion
and
yes,
I
toured
the
facility
too.
I
spent
a
lot
of
time
with
Kristen,
the
other
Commissioners
and
yes,
it
needs
a
lot
of
work.
But
the
people
who
put
me
here
is
who
I'm,
representing
and
I
have
to
vote
now
that
closet.
A
Any
more
comments,
my
turn,
so
we
listen
to
our
experts.
It's
a
50
year
old
pool
when
your
car
gets
old
and
it's
not
running
anymore.
You
don't
keep
pouring
Parts
into
it.
That's
what
we're
doing
and
we're
going
to
keep
doing
it
cool
this
game
is
going
to
be
dangerous
or
could
it
be
liability
issues
if
we
open
that
pool
and
someone
gets
hurt
and
we've
had
all
this.
This
comment
about
the
pool
our
insurance
agents
are
going
to
say
you
shouldn't
have
opened
the
pool,
so
I
I
don't
think
pushing
it
down.
A
The
road
is
going
to
do
any
good,
a
millage
I
slim
to
none.
You
know
they
took
a
poll
about
the
Bridge
pole
and
that
didn't
didn't
fly
too,
but
you
know
it
wasn't
very
popular
and
the
preliminary
polling,
so
I
don't
think
a
millage
would
pass.
It
didn't
cost
a
lot
of
money.
Now
there
are
some
other
things
we've
got
planned.
We
do
have
a
summer
Recreation
program.
A
lot
of
you
have
been
to
the
summer
Recreation
program.
I.
Think
one
of
the
speakers
mentioned
it.
So
that's
still
going
to
be
going
on.
A
There'll
be
other
activities
there.
We
just
refinished
the
floor
of
the
gym
a
few
years
ago,
so
that's
been
fixed
up,
so
we've
been
doing
work
in
the
community
center.
We
have
pickleball.
In
there
we
have
classes
for
senior
citizens.
We
have
the
the
senior
citizens
Activity
Center.
We
have
the
mules
on
Wheels
over
there.
We
have
an
ice
arena,
that's
year-round!
We
use
that
year,
one
we
just
had
an
event
there.
They
made
lots
of
money
on
the
sessions.
A
We've
got
the
community
center,
we've
got
other
facilities,
we've
got
the
golf
course,
so
it's
not
that
we
don't
have
anything.
Midland
is
struggling.
Some
people
have
talked
about
grants.
The
one
Grant
somebody
talked
about
is
is
a
restricted,
Grant
and
very
hard
to
get
I.
Believe
Midland
was
turned
down
on
that
Grant.
So
there's
not
a
lot
of
grant
money
up
there.
Our
money,
there's
not
enough
arpa
money
that
we
have
left
to
pay
for
the
the
pool.
So
it's
a
hard
decision,
I've
been
a
lifelong
resident.
A
We
like
to
keep
the
quality
of
life
here.
I
tried
to
get
to
baseball
stadium
to
come
over
here
that
didn't
work
out
importantly,
but
we
we
did
get
a
why
we
have
a
why
and
we
are
working
on
some
funding,
some
some
funding
for
people
to
use
the
Y
if
we
could
work
it
out
or
some
of
the
other
pools
in
the
area.
It's
only
eight
weeks,
I
mean
that's
not
very
long.
A
O
O
A
A
B
AA
B
W
A
A
A
A
All
in
favor
say:
aye
aye
opposed
abortion
series.
Sorry,
that's
all!
Right
now
we
got
the
Board
of
Commissioners.
R
All
right,
thank
you.
Resolution
number
2023-42
the
settlement
agreement
with
allegentiva
tiva,
CVS
and
Walmart
at
the
global
opioid
litigation.
I
know
this
resolution.
U
Settlement
against
the
manufacturers
in
2021,
we
were
involved
in
that
settlement
in
Bay
County
was
allotted,
3.6
million
to
be
used
for
opioid
education
treatment
and
we've
started
to
receive
the
funds
from
that
first
rounds
of
settlement.
Just
this
agenda
item
is
for
approval
of
the
second
rounds
of
settlement,
which
is
with
Teva
Allergan,
CVS
and
Walmart.
How
this
government
is
structured.
There
is
the
settlement
with
the
manufacturers
and
the
pharmacies,
and
then
the
state
of
Michigan
is
going
to
be
the
distributor
of
those
monies.
U
If
all
of
the
subdivisions
sign
on
to
the
distribution
agreement,
then
your
your
accounting
Township
would
receive
an
increased
share,
so
Bay
County,
if
they
sign
on
to
the
settlement
agreements
and
the
distribution
agreements,
are
likely
to
receive
an
additional
2.1
million
dollars
on
TVs
for
opioid
that
that
education,
treatment
and
Remediation.
So
we
work
with
outside
counsel
very
closely
on
this.
They
represent
municipalities
throughout
the
country
and
it's
their
recommendation
that
we
participate
in
this
agreement
to
bring
the
more
money
to
Bay
County
for
this
purpose.
U
A
AD
Yeah
we
didn't
actually
sign
on
Mr
chair.
We
thought
we
I
initiated
in
the
County
Board
support.
We
filed
a
recording
and
organized
crime,
lawsuit
against
big
Pharma
and
the
Distributors
of
opioids
that
knew
pretty
what
they
should
have
known
and
the
pharmaceutical
company
menu
companies
and
manufacturers
certainly
knew
that
opioids
were
highly
addictive,
but
they
deliberately
said
they
weren't.
AD
The
other
counties
and
cities
I
see
Saginaw
is
just
signing
on
now,
but
we're
actually
separate
so
we're
receiving
a
much
higher
proportion
of
funding
than
others
that
are
just
signing
on
now,
because
we
we
received
a
favorable
consideration,
federal
court
in
Ohio
and
just
point
out
that
in
Michigan
we
have
pretty
much
absolute
immunity
from
four
pharmaceutical
companies.
So
the
national
settlement
will
help
with
some
of
the
local
units
and
and
the
Attorney
General
they.
AD
They
came
to
the
table
very
late,
but
they
will
be
getting
a
large
sum
of
money
to
a
distribute.
So,
but
we
were
out
front
in
2017
and
Amber
and
of
course,
Heather
worked
on
in
all
of
our
department
heads.
They
gathered
all
the
information
on
the
impact
that
the
opioid
crisis
caused
to
our
residents
here
in
Bay
County,
our
law
enforcement,
our
medical
providers,
the
health
department
and
others.
AD
It
was
an
awful
lot,
hundreds
and
hundreds
of
hours
of
work
that
went
into
it,
but
we're
way
ahead
of
everybody
else
and
just
received
the
seven
hundred
thousand
dollar
check
again
that
to
those
in
the
audience
that
money
will
have
to
be
spent
on
as
Heather
disappointed
out.
Basically,
prevention
and
treatment.
85
percent
of
that
money
will
go
into
prevention
and
treatment
of
substance
abuse,
particularly
with
emphasis
on
opioids
and
Fentanyl.
R
A
On
the
Mac
board
and
we're
happy
to
be
honored,
I'll
make
sure
I
get
them
the
resolution
sometime,
all
those
in
favor,
say
aye
aye
opposed
motion
passes.
AD
Yes,
it's
been
recommended
from
the
federal
authorities
and
I
know
as
Laura
here,
oh
yeah.
If
you
would
like
to
give
a
little
more
background.
Basically,
the
name
has
been
changed
as
a
result
of
sensitivities
toward
people
from
Lithuania
and
Romania
who,
in
the
past
have
been
referred
to
themselves
as
gypsies
or
nomads.
AD
AE
Cover
it
really
well,
you
know
the
the
actual
insect
itself
has
changed
the
name.
You
know
the
name
has
changed
from
Jessie
mob
to
spongy
moth,
but
more
than
that,
instead
of
just
you
know,
changing
the
program
name
to
that.
The
program
has
always
worked
on
much
more
than
the
one
defoliating
pest.
We
have
a
millage
that
guides
the
activities
and
it's
about
defoliating,
damaging
defoliating
pests
in
in,
and
it's
occurring
all
over
the
nation.
AE
In
fact,
we
have
more
injuries
and
death
from
these
dead
trees
that
are
called
as
killed
as
a
result
of
these
defoliating
insects,
then
you'd
be
surprised
how
many
deaths
we
get
even
in
Bay
County
from
the
dead,
the
trees,
ash,
trees
that
are
dying
so
the
program.
It
was
consistent
with
the
millage
language
program.
Staff
are
here
with
the
program
manager.
Jeremy
is
here
and
Carter
Rogers
is
here.
They
worked
extensively,
did
a
lot
of
public
Outreach.
AE
We
didn't
just
do
this
in
a
vacuum,
and
that
was
settled
on
a
name
that
was
representative
of
what
the
work
is.
R
AE
Sure
so
this
is
this
is
what's
known
as
like
the
rainfall
permitting.
You
know
the
storm
water
rain
snow
melts
that
falls
on
land
parking,
lots,
facilities
that
have
oil
and
gas
in
the
parking
lots.
Bay
County
does
have
a
number
of
facilities
such
as
that
our
our
mosquito
control,
our
some
of
our
maintenance
garages
Fairgrounds
and
we
are
required.
We
are
a
regulated
entity
and
we
are
required
to
have
a
national
discharge
permit
for
that
storm
water
that
runs
off
those
facilities.
AE
It's
it
to
protect
the
surface
water,
the
Saginaw
Bay
that
everything
runs
to
and
as
a
urbanized
area,
it's
Bay
County.
The
road
commission
has
all
of
their
Road
their
drains
their
roads
and
Hampton
Township
is
in
involved
that's
a
regulated
entity
as
well.
Monitor
Township,
some
of
our
school
districts,
Essexville
the
city
of
Essexville,
and
so
it
is
the
authority
formed
for
the
urbanized
areas
to
kind
of
share
the
work
so
that
not
each
of
us
have
to
do
our
own
project.
AE
But
in
fact
we
can
actually
share
some
of
the
work.
The
investigative
work,
the
promotion,
the
education
components,
and
so
this
is
what's
the
authority
does
and
right
now
we
have
a
deadline
that
we're
facing
of
April
4th
to
get
this
Federal
permit
in
and
submitted,
or
we
will
be
in
violation
of
federal,
Clean,
Water
Act
Lots.
That's
the
bottom
line.
A
R
R
R
R
R
That
okay
I'm
just
going
to
make
a
motion
that
way:
move
the
the
April
4th
Ways
and
Means
to
combine
it
with
the
Personnel
meeting
on
April
11th
I
I'll
move
that
yeah
all.
AD
Thank
you,
Mr
chair
I'd,
just
say
that
you
know
two
years
ago
we
we
passed
the
Brownfield
Redevelopment,
Act
and
adapted
that
here
in
Bay
County
to
help
repurpose
what
is
contaminated
sites
that
could
be
the
home
of
a
future
business
and
it's
a
you
know,
a
very
important
program.
I
know,
Laura
has
taken
the
lead
on
on
it
in
the
past
and
we
did
reach
out
and
I've
talked
to
Township
officials,
primarily
who
are
interested
in
this.
AD
We
do
have
a
an
upcoming
Brownfield
site
to
to
meet
quickly
on,
and
so
these
are
I
think
all
outstanding
appointments,
Mr
chair
I'd
mentioned.
Hopefully
the
Commissioners
can
see
the
in
the
packet
here.
The
people
that
indicated
an
interest
by
communicating
with
us
page.
A
AD
The
first
project
is
in
monitor
Township
and
we
have
five
Representatives,
including
yourself,
Mr
chair,
so
they're
all
good
people
that
bring
expertise
and
knowledge
to
the
you
know
to
the
effort
and
I
think
it
will
help
expand
our
property
tax
base
in
Michigan,
as
well
as
create
economic
opportunities
and
jobs
for
Bay
County
residents
on
the
region.
So,
hopefully
the
board
will
approve
my
appointments
to
the
Redevelopment.
A
Motion
proof
receive
and
concur
support
discussion.
All
those
in
favor
say:
aye
aye
all
right,
so
we
added
something
new
here.
We
have
commissioner
comments.
You
don't
have
to
say
anything.
I
know
I
go
to
a
lot
of
Township
meetings
and
they
have
that
and
sometimes
it
drags
on
the
media.
A
little
longer
sorry
about
that
townships.
But
anybody
have
any
further
comments.
Yeah.
AA
I'd
like
to
say,
you
know,
since
I've
been
a
commissioner,
my
third
month,
I've
been
attending
all
the
township
meetings
in
Hampton
and
Merit
in
Essexville
yeah
and
that's
been
enlightening
as
far
as
what's
what's
going
on
those
those
communities
and
so
I've
been
enjoying
that
and
have
an
opportunity
to
help
meet
the
people
in
my
district.
So
yeah.
A
A
AF
Just
wanted
to
take
a
moment.
My
name
is
Rob
pellerito
I
am
the
district
director
for
Center
state,
senator
Michelle,
hoytinga
and
I
cover
16
counties
and
I
believe
it
only
impacts,
one
of
your
District's
district,
one
here
in
Bay
County,
but
it's
a
pleasure
to
attend
your
meeting
set.
AF
The
36
Senate
District
does
go
from
Manistee
County
on
up
to
Presque
Isle
down
here
to
the
northern
part
of
bay,
so
you're,
not
the
last,
but
it
is
a
big
district
for
me
to
cover
one
of
a
few
Senators
that
actually
have
in-district
people
covering.
So
please
reach
out
to
me
or
our
office
in
Lansing
I'd
be
happy
to
to
assist
you
in
any
way.
Thank
you.
So
that's.
J
You
know
I
spell
I'm
Brian
cross
I
spent
my
whole
life
advocating
for
people.
It
started
out
with
a
handicap,
worked
for
the
American
Cancer
Society
for
10
years,
so
I
still
advocate
for
cancer
patients.
J
Now
I'm
a
Habitat
for
Humanity
growing
up
a
lot
of
us
had
stay-at-home
parents
that
could
take
us
to
the
bay
or
maybe
take
us
somewhere
to
go
swimming.
You
know
now
it's
Atlas
families
and
his
low-income
families,
Bay
City,
Bay
City
right
here,
has
49
Poverty
Bay
County
has
34
so
that
Mississippi
lower
Bay
City
in
there.
So
you
know
for
you
to
just
say
we
can
go
to
the
beach
we
can
go
to
the
bay
or
whatever.
No
you
can't.
J
These
people
are
working
two
and
three
jobs
just
to
survive
right
now,
to
put
food
on
the
table
so
and
when
I
was
a
kid
I
could
get
on
my
bike
and
I
could
ride
the
community
center
and
go
use
that
pool
or
whatever
the
case
is.
You
know
what
and
you
know,
I
I
hate
to
be
this
guy
I
hate
to
you
know:
I
usually
especially
be
involved
where
I
am
I.
J
Don't
like
to
do
this,
but
you
know
this:
this
is
a
gem
in
our
community
six
million
dollars,
I
mean
if
it
was
six
million
you're
saving
six
million
for
a
brand
new
pool,
you're
saying
2
million
to
get
it
fixed.
J
There's
a
lot
of
programs
I've
seen
over
the
years
here
that
spend
that
kind
of
money
and
don't
do
anything.
You
know
that
don't
do
this
type
of
thing
for
kids,
so
you
you
complain
about
these
kids
that
are
walking
around
and
stealing
stuff
out
of
cars
and
you're
doing
all
this
stuff
and
they're
getting
out
and
doing
stuff.
This
is
a
place
yeah
last
five
years.
Okay,
it's
down,
but
you
know
why
it's
down
three
years
of
covid
I
mean
you
can't
blame.
J
You
can't
say
that
nobody's
been
out
and
do
anything
in
the
last
three
years,
so
I
apologize
and
I've
come
up
kind
of
you
know,
but
I
just
I
just
need
to
get
my
voice
out
there
that
I'm
advocating
for
our
families
my
habitat
families.
You
know
they
are
working
every
day.
Their
moms
and
dads
are
working
or
their
single
parents
are
working.
So
they
can't
do
that
they
got
a
school
bus
that
drops
them
off.
J
You
know
they
can
get
over
to
the
community
center,
especially
in
the
city,
but
I
guess
that's
all
I
got.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
AG
Campbell
I
guess
I'll
say
something
about
the
pool
which
you
know.
The
American
Legion
is
greatly
supported
and
paid
for
the
free
summer
swim
program
at
the
pool,
but
I'm
going
to
go
back
a
few
years.
When
I
was
a
kid
we
used
to
go
to
Central
and
my
parents
we'd
ride
a
bus
from
Linwood
and
I.
Had
a
single
parent
we'd
go
over
there.
We
would
learn
how
to
swim,
cost
my
mom
somewhere
15
to
20
bucks
back
then
it's
a
long
time
ago.
AG
AG
AG
Now
some
people
say,
but
people
can't
afford
that
the
Y
has
Grant
programs
and
since
the
county
is
looking
into
options
that
can
possibly
help
for
these
disadvantaged
families.
You
know
I
was
a
single
dad,
raising
kids,
you
ready
for
the
big
kicker.
When
we
went
to
the
pool
we
went
to
middle,
we
did
not
go
to
the
Bay
City
Pool
and
you
can
ask
the
Boy
Scouts
in
Brunswick
troop
131,
those
kids
went
swimming
all
winter
long.
Once
a
month
we
drove
those
kids
over
there.
AG
AG
AG
They
built
it
between
two
mountains.
You
know
why
it
was
the
only
land
they
had
to
build
it.
Bear
Mountain
the
Bear
Mountain
Recreational
Center,
and
they
raised
the
revenue
so
getting
all
upset
that
we're
gonna
close
up
close
of
midi
and
build
a
pool
and
build
it
so
that
people
do
want
to
come.
And
then
you
have
thousands
of
people
and
that's
where
you
make
the
difference
versus
where
it's
dwindled
and
I
watched
it
because
I've
levied
for
money
from
the
legion
so
that
kids
could
go
swimming
for
free.
D
The
comment
was
made
that
you
have
to
look
out
for
the
taxpayers
and
I
appreciate
that
as
a
taxpayer,
but
the
kids
who
swim
in
that
pool
are
our
future
taxpayers
to
keep
them
here
and
pay
tax
to
our
communities.
This
is
something
that
that
will
retain
them,
because
they'll
have
happy
memories
here
of
things
that
they
got
to
do
and
they'll
tell
their
kids
about
those
memories
and
those
kids
will
be
able
to
enjoy
the
same
things.
D
A
millage
was
mentioned
and
believed
wouldn't
pass
based
on
the
2021
census,
I'd
like
I'm,
not
going
to
tell
you
what
to
do,
but
I
have
the
number
in
my
in
my
phone
here.
It
was
just
over
a
hundred
and
two
thousand
residents
of
Bay
County
at
the
high
end
was
six
million
dollars
for
a
rebuild
or
new
pool,
it's
less
than
sixty
dollars
a
person
over
time.
It's
not
that
much.
D
Lastly,
thank
you
to
the
legion
for
providing
free
swimming
to
so
many
kids.
Going
off
of
that
we
don't
have
a
wealthy
population
in
Bay,
County
and
I've
participated
in
a
variety
of
sports.
My
entire
life
and
swimming
is
one
of
those
things
that
doesn't
cost
a
lot
for
a
family
to
get
their
children
involved
in
and
they
don't
have
ice
skates
for
hockey.
They
don't
have
expensive
tennis
rackets,
they
don't
have
expensive
running
shoes.
D
AB
Okay,
so
my
name
is
Morgan
Muse
I
live
in
monitor,
Township
and
I
have
also
been
swimming
at
the
community
center.
Since
I
was
seven
I
I
live
in
a
subdivision.
My
parents
are
both
nurses,
so
they
were
not
home
all
the
time.
So
one
of
the
neighbors
was
a
stay-at-home
or
he
was
a
teacher,
so
he
was
home
during
the
summer,
so
he
took
all
of
us.
Neighborhood
kids
dropped
us
off
at
summer
camp
for
the
day
picked
us
back
up
as
I
got
into
competitive
swimming,
then
I
would
ride
my
bike.
AB
If
I
didn't
have
a
ride
to
practice.
Every
morning
leave
my
grandma's
ice
cream
shop,
where
I
worked
until
I
was
16
to
go
back
to
practice
at
night.
Like
my
whole
life
in
the
summer,
revolved
around
that
pool,
I
was
friends
with
the
lifeguards.
Many
of
us
were
offered
jobs
as
lifeguards.
There.
We
all
became
lifeguard
certified,
because
what
else
would
you
do
when
you're,
a
swimmer
and
you're
gonna
swim?
Is
your
world
swim?
Is
your
life
and
then
last
summer,
we're
facing
the
issues
of
no
lifeguards?
AB
Well,
I
find
that
hard
to
believe
like
nobody
was.
None
of
these
Club
teams
were
reached
out
to
the
club
team
in
Midland
I
for
reference
I
also
coached,
for
base
for
a
little
bit
too
so
I
had
that
relationship
with
the
Midland
team.
They
were
turning
their
lifeguards
down.
She
simply
did
not
have
enough
positions
to
staff
all
the
lifeguards,
all
the
kids
that
she
wanted
to
employ.
Well,
we
could
have
easily
taken
them
here.
If
you
can
drive
you
can
get
here.
You
have
a
job.
AB
We
didn't
offer
that
that
wasn't
an
option
swimming
as
a
whole,
like
Holly,
had
said
before:
swimming
and
water
safety
is
something
that
I
will
forever
stand
by
I'm
in
nursing,
school
I
graduate
in
May
you
know
swimming
is
a
low
impact
thing
that
people
of
all
ages
can
do.
You
can
you're,
never
too
old
to
stand
and
do
some
leg
pumps
or
get
some
exercise
in
of
some
sort.
AB
AB
Obviously,
but
those
are
all
things
like
these
lessons:
the
coaching,
the
swim
teams,
the
programs,
those
are
invaluable
resources
to
our
community
with
the
whole
drowning
statistics
that
Holly,
provided
you
cannot
like
swimming,
is
a
life
skill
that
will
never
fail
you.
You
can
never
be
too
good
of
a
swimmer
and
people
who
don't
know
how
to
swim,
are
at
a
humongous
disadvantage
and
to
say
like
go
swim
in
the
bay.
You
don't
learn
to
swim
in
the
bay.
You
learn
to
drown
in
the
bay.
AB
You
need
a
safe,
controlled
environment
in
order
to
learn
how
to
swim,
and
most
of
us
learn
how
to
swim
in
a
pool
because
our
parents
took
us
there,
our
parents
prioritized
swimming,
then
there's
free
Thursdays
at
the
community
center.
Maybe
their
parents
can't
take
them,
but
someone
can
and
they're
prioritizing
swimming
getting
exposure,
but
it's
not
just
young
kids
either.
It's
it's
everyone
swimming
is
a
a
life
skill
that
will
never
fail.
You
and
it
just
seems
so
unfair
that
so
much
of
our
our
dynamic
as
a
whole.
AB
As
a
city,
we
rely
on
these
pools,
go
to
the
Y.
Well,
the
Y
is
packed,
but
quite
frankly,
like
the
wise
pact
yeah,
we
can
have
like
programs
to
get
there,
but
it's
not
the
same.
Who
wants
to
be
inside
in
Michigan
in
the
summer
same
with
Delta
College?
It's
there
and
I'm
glad
that
it's
there
for
the
winter
and
I'm
glad
that
the
Y
is
there
for
the
winter
as
well.
But
nobody
like
you
guys,
said,
there's
three
County
pools.
Nobody
has
that
to
offer
us
like.
AB
We
do
and
we're
gonna
just
fill
it
and
do
nothing
like
that.
Just
seems
we
already
closed
the
country
club.
We
already
like
the
Saginaw
swim
program
as
a
whole
has
shut
down.
We
almost
lost
Bays
that
almost
shut
down.
Where
do
you
want
kids
to
learn
to
swim?
Where
do
you
want
kids
to
do
stuff
outside
of
swim?
I
babysit
have
baby
sat
since
I
was
12
years
old,
and
you
always
everyone
always
says
now
like
keep
your
youth
like
we
want
them.
We
want
kids
to
be
kids.
AB
Well,
kids
now
are
like
this
and
kids.
Now
don't
have
the
resources.
Kids
now
would
never
ride
their
bike
to
some
practice,
because
it's
probably
they
don't
have
some
practice
to
be
honest,
but
it
they
just
don't
have
the
same
resources
that
we
had
and
like
you
guys
are
talking
about
when
you
guys
were
kids,
and
that
was
a
lot
longer
ago
than
when
I
was
a
kid
when
that
was
10
years
ago
and
I
used
to
live
with
my
parents
and
I'm
23
like
that.
AB
Wasn't
that
long
ago,
for
me,
and
the
resources
for
kids
now,
like
every
single
parent
I
know,
is
like
what.
Where
can
I
take
my
kids?
What
can
I
do?
Well,
you
can
go
to
the
Y.
Well,
a
family
pass
is
like
I,
don't
know
kind
of
expensive
and
I
get
it.
There's
low
income
things,
but
it's
just
not
feasible
in
the
summer.
You
you
listed
all
these
things
that
we
have
to
offer.
Not
one
of
them
was
a
pool.
We
would
rely
on
the
why,
but
we
have
like
102
000
people.
AB
AH
Good
evening
it
was
afternoon
good
evening
permission.
Thank
you
for
letting
me
speak.
My
name
is
Mike.
Darby
I
was
the
swim
coach
at
John
Glenn
and
a
long
time
teacher
in
Bangor,
Township,
I
retired,
was
able
to
get
a
job
at
Saginaw,
Valley
I'm,
the
assistant
swim
coach
at
Saginaw,
Valley
and
the
reason
I
mention
that
is
because
I
have
the
luxury
of
leading
such
outstanding
individuals,
men
and
women.
From
across
this
country
and
many
International
students
as
well.
AH
Last
year,
we
were
able
to
partnership,
Saginaw
Valley
and
the
Bay
City
aquatic
club.
We
had
a
team
together
and
they
got
the
opportunity
to
come
to
Bay,
City
and
swim
outdoors,
and
they
were
in
shock.
I
mean
I'm.
Talking,
I
have
kids
from
Brazil
Spain
Hungary
New,
Zealand,
Australia,
South,
Africa,
kids
from
all
across
the
globe,
as
well
as
all
across
the
country.
They
could
not
believe
how
beautiful
our
pool
was.
They
could
not
believe
what
an
asset
was
their
Community.
They
all
said.
AH
We
don't
have
anything
like
this
and
we
were
so
excited
to
show
it
off
and
we
knew
we
had
a
little
bit
of
problems.
Last
year,
the
Lifeguard
shortage,
which
right
there
is
a
lifeguard
certified
teacher
who
offered
last
year
to
do
that
free
of
charge,
and
nobody
took
them
up
on
it
by
the
way,
so
that
that
that
that
issue
is
not
not
an
issue
for
us.
I
do
have
some
notes.
AH
I
want
to
talk
about,
and
I
do
want
to
apologize
directly
to
commissioner
bonanzek
you're,
my
boy,
we're
friends,
we're
going
to
be
friends
after
this,
and
we
disagree
that
that's
what
people
do
right
and
he's
I've
blown
up
his
phone
like
you
got
your
phone
blown
up
but
you're
wrong,
Tim
you're
wrong.
You
just
started
and
you're
taking
all
this.
Whatever
information
people
are
giving
you
you
kept.
You
told
me
yesterday
or
Thursday.
Excuse
me
that
we
don't
qualify
for
the
spark
Grant.
AH
We
do
who's
telling
you
this
stuff.
Is
it
her?
We
got
emails
from
someone
like
somebody
from
the
county.
Yes,
it
does.
Recreation
outdoor
pools
do
qualify
for
smart
grants,
so
you're
wrong.
The
information
you're
getting
Tim.
You
told
me
for
10
years
someone
has
sat
at
the
community
center
and
asked
every
kid
that
walked
in
what
their
zip
code
is.
That's
wrong.
There's
been
no
one.
There
I've
worked
there
I've
been
there
all
right,
no
one.
We
don't
have
any
money
to
have
somebody
stand
there
and
ask
kids
what
their
zip
code
is.
AH
Kids,
don't
even
know
their
zip
code.
Then
you
said,
majority
of
those
kids
were
from
Saginaw
I'd,
be
very
careful
to
go
to
those
type
of
comments.
All
right.
One
reason
is
I
learned
a
long
time
ago
at
jungle,
High
School
in
the
business
class,
the
term
lost
leader.
We
may
have
to
lose
a
little
bit
of
money
here
to
get
something
over
here,
bringing
more
residents
into
our
community
keeping
the
residents
keeping
the
youth
like
Morgan
just
talked
about
that
cycle
cannot
stop
and
all
of
these
little
pieces
keep
people
in
our
community.
AH
I
just
have
a
few
more
things
that
I
wrote
down
and
wanted
to
make
sure
I
am
a
little
nervous.
I
am
very,
very
emotional,
so
I
apologize
the
numbers
we
talked
about
the
numbers
of
the
pool.
Yes,
they
are
down.
Has
anybody
heard
of
covet?
Okay,
we
closed
the
pool,
it
was
slow
to
get
people
to
come
back,
there's
still
people
that
don't
go
back
to
work.
AH
There's
there's
families
that
are
not
excited
about
going
to
a
public
place,
but
that
will
come
back
if
we
have
the
programs
in
Midland.
They
have
such
neat
ideas
at
the
end
of
the
seasons
there
we
can
take
their
dog
and
they
can
go
in
the
pool
with
their
dog
at
nights.
They
have
special
times
for
just
adults
for
adult
Lab
swim.
They
have
special
times
during
the
day
for
just
Youth,
and
we
just
didn't
do
that.
That's
why
our
numbers
are
low.
AH
AH
AH
Let
us
have
a
chance:
I,
don't
have
six
million
dollars
in
my
pocket.
I,
don't
believe
that
number
either,
but
when
we
get
a
real
Pool
Company
up
here
to
give
us
a
bid,
we
will
have
some
definite
numbers,
something
for
us
to
look
at
then
we
can
go
and
go
okay,
we
need
four
million.
What
are
we
going
to
do?
Give
us
a
chat
thanks.
AI
Hello,
my
name
is
Bob
LaRock
I've
been
a
lifelong
resident
of
Bay
County
I
live
in
Bangor
Township
I
also
teach
and
coach
at
John,
Glenn
High
School
I've
been
both
an
athlete.
A
coach
at
the
Bay
County
Community
Center
I've
been
a
swim
instructor
I'm,
a
lifeguard
instructor
being
around
the
pool
being
in
the
water
is
a
part
of
my
life.
AI
You
know
the
lack
of
effort
to
secure
funding,
to
look
for
Grants
to
look
for
opportunities.
You
know
in
the
lack
of
leadership
in
running
our
community
center
when
I
was
a
kid
going
to
certain
practice.
That
pool
was
packed.
There
were
adults,
there
were
kids
and
it
was
open
from
Memorial
Day
to
Labor
Day
from
morning
to
night
and
filled
with
kids
and
filled
with
people
from
our
community
as
years.
Go
on
leadership
changes
costs
change.
We
started
charging
more.
AI
AI
Currently
I
coach
at
John
Glenn
High
School
Krista
McAuliffe,
my
coach
for
the
Bay
City
Aquatics
club
I'm
there
in
the
summer
still
now
today,
I'm
also
a
lifeguard
instructor
and
I
offer
to
help
get
lifeguards.
There's
kids
out
there
that
want
jobs.
So
that's
merely
an
excuse
not
to
have
you
know
not
to
have
it
open.
We
are
a
community
that
lives
on
the
water
beyond
the
swim,
lessons
and
Beyond
the
or
not
Beyond,
some
lessons
beyond
the
swim
team.
AI
It's
an
opportunity
for
water
safety
and
that's
our
that's
our
priority
when
we
live
on
the
water,
it's
an
opportunity
for
adults
to
get
water
exercises
adult
for
kids
to
swim.
It's
a
place
for
adults
and
kids
to
have
some
Recreation
opportunities.
AI
You
know
we've
had
events
with
the
swim
club,
where
we
bring
people
in
from
across
the
state
to
hundreds
of
people
to
see
what
we
have
here
in
Bay
County.
Now
we
don't
have
that
opportunity.
If
we
continue
on
this
path,
the
community
center
pool-
you
know.
Yes,
it
has
maintenance
issues,
Steve,
the
guy
that's
running
and
his
maintenance
crew
do
their
darndest
to
keep
it
up
and
maintain
it
so
that
we
do
have
those
opportunities.
They've
been
putting
a
Band-Aid
on
something
that
the
county
hasn't
been
able
to
do.
AI
When
have
we
put
significant
amount
of
money
into
the
pool
to
try
to
upkeep
it?
Why
are
we
not
maintaining
the
things
that
we
have
in
this
County?
Instead
of
just
let
him
kind
of
phase
out?
AI
We
need
leadership.
You
know
this
is
a
missed
opportunity.
We
need
leadership.
That's
Dynamic!
That's
forward!
Thinking!
That's
going
to
take
our
community
forward,
give
more
creative
programs
for
our
community
and
bring
these
people
back
to
the
pool,
so
they
have
a
place
to
use
in
the
summer
and
outside
of
the
summer.
You
know
that
place
could
be
packed
both
indoors
Outdoors
year
round,
and
so
it's
a
mixed
opportunity,
I
hope
we
revisit
it
and
move
things
forward.
Thank
you.
AI
T
Good
evening
Brian
Taylor
I'm,
a
banker
Township
Trustee
and
I,
totally
understand
the
economics
of
what
you
guys
have
been
through
tonight.
You
are
taking
on
a
challenge
of
some
of
you
with
being
new.
That
hasn't
been
done,
perhaps
in
a
in
a
positive
way
towards
this.
I
only
urge
you
tonight
that
whatever
money
was
going
towards
it,
if
it's
closed,
keep
that
money
maybe
put
aside
consider
if
they
can
match
that
money
or
if
you
can
find
a
way
to
reopen
it.
T
So
maybe
after
a
year
realizing
hey,
we
really
needed
that
you
know,
don't
don't
fill
it
in
by
all
means,
don't
sell
it
to
a
National
Guard,
just
keep
keep
it
locked
up,
keep
some
keep
some
possibilities
open
and
perhaps
down
the
line.
If
you,
if
you
put
away
some
of
that
money,
it
might
might
be
something
you
can
do
again.
So
that's
all
I
urge
you
and
good
luck.
J
I
can
say
it
earlier,
I
just
want
to
say
you
know
the
thing
I
didn't
understand
that
really
got
me
upset
about
this
whole
thing.
Was
it
the
fact
that
you
cannot
even
vote
to
table
it?
I
mean
the
pool's
not
going
to
open
for
another
three
four
like
three
months
anyway,
right
so
I
mean
just
to
give
the
I
mean
I've
been
to
a
lot
of
public
political
things
and
stuff.
There
was
not
one
negative
comment
out
of
the
cat
out
of
the
out
here.
J
Everything
else
I
raise
myself
so
for
you
to
say
that
they
can't
raise
that
money.
I
think
it's
crazy,
because
I
raised
10
percent
of
that
to
help
these
families
that
you
need.
So
that's
all
I
want
to
do.
I
just
wanted
to.
Let
you
know
that
I
don't
think
it
would
have
been
a
problem.
The
table
it
wouldn't
have
made
a
difference.
That's
all
I
got
to
say
and
everybody
have
a
good
night.
J
A
A
A
AD
The
people
that
were
there,
including
Mike,
refused
to
look
at
the
at
the
pool
or
the
infrastructure
underneath
the
pool
and
for
the
especially
the
commissioner
there's
a
Prohibition
on
Federal
art
use
for
pools
as
well
as
we've
contacted
Congressman
kildee
for
Community
Project
funding.
This
past
year
we
got
three
million:
one
million
for
the
sheriff's
department,
2
million
for
the
new
health
services
building
serve
the
residents
of
Bay
County.
AD
However,
under
Community
Project
funding,
we've
asked
for
1
million
to
consider
repurposing
it
like
a
splash
part,
but
there
was
a
Prohibition
I
believe
on
splash
parks
and
pools
using
Federal
money
to
build
either
one
of
those.
There
is
a
spark
Grant
Midland
applied
for
it
and
they
were
turned
on
flat
and
you
have
to,
and
you
have
to
agree
to
maintain
the
pool
for
or
to
keep
the
pool
operation
for
20
years,
but
I.
AD
And
then
we
about
two
years
ago,
we
met
with
philanthropists
from
throughout
Bay
County
and
Kristen
got
some
estimates
on
an
indoor
pool
that
would
be
available
instead
of
eight
weeks
a
year
all
year
round,
because
I'm,
a
former
swimmer
and
I
know
where
you're
coming
from
I
love,
swimming
and
pools
are
a
great
thing.
Great
social
asset
for
any
Community.
However,
I
think
the
two
beds
two
bids
that
we
got
to
do
something
similar
to
Midland
be
70
million
and
77
million.
AD
As
soon
as
we
mentioned
that
price,
the
people
that
we
were
approaching
to
see
if
we
could
raise
that
much
money
in
the
community
support
kind
of
just
drifted
away
and
melted
away,
it's
just
just
too
expensive
a
project
to
take
on
at
least
for
the
people
that
were
involved
in
the
Y.
We've
talked
to
the
Y
and
they're,
not
interested
at
least
I
know.
Some
of
our
commissioners
belong
to
the
Y
thinking
about
taking
it
up
with
the
board
of
directors.
AD
Bay
County
would
be
happy
to
pay
for
any
young
person
that
wants
to
use
the
indoor
pool.
That's
why
I
realize
it's
not
Outdoors
people
prefer
outdoor
swimming
but
and
the
Sun
and
sunbathing,
especially
you
know
so,
but
but
they've
they've
indicated
to
us
they're,
not
interested
in
sharing
that
their
pool
with
members
of
the
public
that
are
not
dues-paying,
members
of
the
YMCA,
so
I
hope
I'm,
not
misspeaking,
that
that
I
believe
was
the
the
people
that
I
spoke
to.
That's
what
they
indicated
to
me.
We
haven't
gone
to
the
board
of
directors.
AD
Also,
we've
reached
out
to
Garber
Essexville
Hampton.
They
would
welcome
the
use
of
their
pool
if
we'd
pay,
ten
thousand
dollars
or
whatever
for
all
of
the
competitive
swimmers,
either
at
Western,
High,
School
or
Essexville
Arbor
or
John
Glenn
or
Saginaw
Valley.
For
that
I'm,
an
svsu
Alum
and
the
facilities
they
have
out.
There
are
incredible
and
they
do
as
Mike
said
they
draw
people
from
around
the
world
to
compete,
beautiful
pools
but
they're
very
expensive.
One
of
the
executives
at
the
Y
told
me
if
they
were
designing
the
Y
today.
AD
That
would
not
have
put
a
pool
in
it's
just
too
expensive,
it's
10
years
old
and
it's
very
difficult
to
maintain
and
they're
already
looking
at
having
to
spend
large
sums
of
money
to
upgrade
the
pool.
If
you
know,
if
that's
the
case,
but
just
just
know
too,
that
also
I
think
the
community
center
I
know
DM
is
here
and
she
may
remember
she
had
a
longevity.
AD
She
started
when
she
was
very
young,
but
the
community
center
opened
in
1973
and
then
the
basement
there's
a
double
shovel,
one
for
the
city
of
Bay
City
and
one
for
Bay,
County
and
I
believe
somewhere
around
1976
City
pulled
out.
It
was
too
expensive
for
the
city
budget,
so
but
commissioner
naginski,
if
you're
you
know,
if
you
can
bring
some
money
to
the
table,
we'd
certainly
welcome
it.
If
we
could
split
it,
three
million
and
three
million
that
might
be
I
mean
I.
Don't
it's
up
to
the
board?
AD
I
don't
have
I,
don't
have
the
role
of
appropriating
money.
However,
you
know
that's
we
can
we
can
continue
to
discuss
it.
It's
very
painful
and
very
sad
to
have
to
close
the
community
center
pool
I,
never
swam
there,
but
I've
known
hundreds
who
have
and
who
have
very
fond
memories
of
it.
But
it's
it's
very
expensive.
You
know
I
think
the
structure
around
the
pool
itself
is
2
million.
The
the
walls
are
collapsing
and
falling
into
the
bottom
of
the
pool.
We
talked
about
lifeguards.
We
have
some
here,
they're,
15
and
16
year
old.
AD
You
know,
students
that
are
lifeguards
and
you
know
if
you
have.
If
we
have
a
tragedy,
it's
been
very
difficult.
I
know,
people
said:
we've
got
all
the
lifeguards
we
need,
but
that's
not
what
that
wasn't.
Our
experience
it
was
posted
on
him
live.
It
was
on.
Television
was
on
the
radio
that
we
needed.
We
needed
lifeguards
and
no
one
applied.
A
We're
getting
off
track
here
right
now,
yeah!
Oh,
wait!
We
can
have
side
discussions,
we're
willing
to
meet
with
anybody
out
in
the
lobby
or
whatever
so.
AH
AH
I
didn't
even
wasted
your
time.
That's
if
you
took
it
that
I
was
being
rude.
I
apologize,
I
was
not
being
nice,
I
understand,
but
it
was
I've
seen
it.
I
know
the
rusty
place.
I
know
the
problems
and
I
told
you
he's
a
miracle
worker
and
Richard
Rex
was
a
miracle
worker
beforehand,
so
I
apologize.
Thank.
A
AD
A
Okay,
any
more
comments:
miscellaneous
announcements,
Mr
Ryder,
not
not
a
journet,
heaven
announcement.
First,
my
announcement
is
that
March
29th
is
National,
Vietnam,
War,
Veterans
Day,
being
one
of
those
people
we're
going
to
have
ceremonies
at
6
p.m.
On
April,
2nd
at
the
American
Legion
Post
18,
any
Vietnam
Vets
are
invited
to
attend,
we'll
be
getting
some
awards
or
medals,
so
6
p.m.
April,
2nd,
American,
Legion
right
next
to
the
library
all
Vietnam
vets
were
invited.
R
This
is
a
family
announcement
to
my
grandson.
Jack
wetters
was
made
captain
of
his
football
team
at
All
Saints,
the
varsity
football
team
at
All,
Saints
say,
which
is
it's
nice
to
be
a
captain,
it's
even
better
when
you're
a
sophomore
I
mean
so,
let's
be
good,
he's
a
great
kid
and
he
deserves
it,
and
maybe
he'll
watch
us
on
TV
and
that's
why
I
said,
but
he's
a
wonderful,
wonderful.
His
brother
and
sister
are
wonderful
too,
but
he's
the
oldest
one.