Bay County, Michigan Board of Commissioners Meetings, 2 Jun 2015

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From YouTube: Bay County Board of Commissioners Ways & Means Committee Meeting - June 2, 2015

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We'll call this ways and means committed together today june 2nd 2015 at dm. Would you please call the roll.

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Here your answer here here here here.

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Thank you. Man, we've all had an opportunity to re review. The minutes of may 5th 2015. motion's approved they've, been moved and uh supported any questions or discussion on the minutes. Seeing none all in favor. All right, well opposed motion carries at this time we'll allow for public input.

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Anybody that'd like to address ways and means please step to the podium state, your name and what you'd like to speak on behalf of and you'll, have an opportunity to uh address uh ways and means seeing no one's coming forward under our next order of business from petitions and communications we have from the big county sheriff. This is a justice assistance, grant support, moved and supported any questions or discussion, seeing none all in favor all right I'll, oppose motion clearance from the prosecutor. We have a 2016 crp, 4d application.

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Amendment, support, moved and supported questions or discussion, see none all in favor. All right, well oppose motion carries the next. We have a 2016 4e application amendment or moved and supported any questions or discussion.

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Damn was this the one we were talking about uh kurt? Maybe you can. These grants are look like they're, 50 50, but they're wrong, they're written a little differently. The first one said it's 129 000 and the county's half is 65 and this one said 200 000 or 100 000 and I'm not sure. Can you maybe give us a little explanation on.

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Well, the county match for the.

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4D, cooperative reimbursement grant is 65 996., now they're completely different grants.

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The 4d grant covers the program for paternity and child support establishment and the 4e grant, which has a 100 percent match of 100 462, is for our agreement of dhs for legal services providing to dhs uh regarding abuse and collecting children, so they're completely different grants.

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All right, so the first one is 50 50., uh so it's 130 000 grant. We pay the second one is a 200 000 grant.

E

It's it's a total of well, the match is 100 462., I'm sorry the match is and ninety 100 fifty the.

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Maybe it was just the way it was wrote, because I said that I thought.

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The total funds for the contract or the grant agreement is 201 162. So it's a 50 50 match all.

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Right same as the other one, it's just somewhat somewhat. uh There were two two grants: 50 50 wrote differently and that's the only reason I asked the questions.

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But if you look at the weather numbers changed a little bit: oh, it wasn't the numbers. It was. If you look at how they were they weren't all the same, and I was just wondering if it was a 50 50 or what it was.

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But I guess we've got that information. Anybody else have any questions regarding that, seeing none all in favor aye all opposed motion carries for the personnel director. We have the 457 deferred compensation, fiduciary liability policy, renewal.

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Moved and supported any questions or discussion, seeing none all in favor aye all opposed motion carries number two. We have the wellness initiatives for 2015 and I think we're going to get a brief report from tiffany genie.

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And what we're planning going forward, so this is just a brief overview of where we're at and what we're going to do.

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So we have been promoting medical savings, education and off savings, in particular one being the bay county wellness center. Obviously, we implemented that last year, in january, we've seen cost savings. We have employees, they don't have to pay for their office visits their generic co-pays as well as no overhead costs.

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And so far in 2014, all the generic prescriptions remain free and we're planning that going forward throughout 2015..

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We continue to educate employees that we do purchase nine memberships for delta college every year, so that's available to employees and retirees for free. They can upgrade to a family membership for the fitness center and the recreation center there for just 144. So there's a big cost savings for them. For that we do various education on various topics through newsletters and email.

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I also give inter-office information on topics such as tobacco, how they can save smoking, cessation and stuff, like that all of those are also available on the employee internet, so they can access those afterwards.

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We also do the employee lunch learns once every quarter and recently bay 3 tv has been recording those, so those recordings are also available on the internet.

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um For our wellness side of things, we offer fitness classes for free for spouses, as well as employees and retirees we have throughout the county, various fitness rooms or equipment at various locations.

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So that's all available for free for all the county, employees as well as retirees we offer the win by losing competition twice a year and that's sponsored through blue cross blue shield, so there's no cost involved in that delta college once again, that's available for free and then reimbursements for races and other education.

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We provide the registration fee for free for county employees if they participate and finish.

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This is our calendar events for 2015..

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We do have four lunch and learns on here, one per quarter and we're going to be doing a paid speaker on nutrition and also there's four reimbursements in extra challenges that we're doing currently we're going to be serving the step challenge.

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Within the wellness budget, all of these things that were on the previous slide in the calendar are all included in the wellness budget. So there's no additional funds that we need for anything extra right now.

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As big county is being self-funded, we pay all of our claims on actual costs. So if somebody was to go to the er and it costs two hundred dollars, it also costs the county two hundred dollars. So with that being said that we can kind of see, the trend has been about the same for the last five years on this line.

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The employee contribution has been pretty flat for the last five years and with going forward, we anticipate that being about the same. You know not too much fluctuation in that um we anticipate that we're providing all of these wellness education and efforts that will be promoting healthy living for all employees, and so all the contributions will stay flat.

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The plan changes that were implemented in 2014.

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There were quite a few, such as there used to only be one for everybody to go in and in 2014 that got switched to two different plans and that's where we put in the biometric screening and the health risk assessment, the office co-pays and the deductibles increased for county employees as well as the chiropractic, but we did also put in the wellness center so that in return saved employees on all of those things, the vision plan got enhanced in 2014.

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So that was a huge cost. Savings for employees and retirement are the eligible retirees are not eligible for vision, but it is a big savings for employees and their families.

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There was a lot of education that we provided our generic prescriptions last year. There's a lot of generic or neighboring prescriptions that went generic, so we provided education on that and they were also able to get generic prescriptions for free at the wellness center. So with 2016 not too far away um 2016 going forward. Our plan is to continue to educate, encourage and promote helpful lifestyle changes to our bay county family and by making simple lifestyle changes in your everyday routine.

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It'll help benefit you as a person, and your life is in whole and we anticipate seeing more crossings for bay county and for their employees by making people more active in their daily health.

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Folks at administration, I believe in wellness. I think that it's got a long way to creating awareness for employees just how involved they need to be in their own health care and given them the opportunity to be physically fit and not only to go, see a physician for little or no cost is is a good thing for us, so keep up the good work with no other questions. All in favor, all right I'll oppose motion carries uh under d, the director of administrative services. This is the bay 3 tv contract, renewal.

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Moved and supported any questions or discussion. uh Commissioner tillerson.

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Any talk of bay city coming back into the next semester, there.

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Were some discussions but if nothing has been decided, but they are exploring.

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Okay, thanks any.

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Other discussion, seeing none all in favor all right I'll, oppose motion, carries from the director of recreation and facilities. This is the purchase of a new mail machine.

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Or moved and supported any questions or discussion, mr creek, thank you. So what is it costing us for a year? Let's say for the last two years on an average.

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Well, we purchased the mail machine in 2006., so we bought it outright almost 10 years ago and then for the last well since then we only pay for um the maintenance agreement and the meter rental. The meter rental is right about 8.50 and our maintenance agreement is um just over a thousand. I think so.

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The main cost comes when you purchase the mail machine. Our mail machine is now obsolete. We're kind of running on borrowed time. So, if anything breaks, we probably won't be able to get the part to fix it, and so that's why we're looking at a new one.

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Okay, and so the cost will still stay even across the board, like we've been paying.

G

And we budget for both meter rental and the maintenance agreement every single year and the mail machine to purchase it is already in the budget this year. So we don't need any additional funds.

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And as far as the departments that are using that mail machine doesn't involve the courts at all, absolutely.

G

Yes, they have a lot of mail. Okay, everybody. Every every department, bay county department is using the mailman. You know the mail services.

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Okay, thank you. Mm-Hmm, commissioner lives.

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Is but it's more expensive to lease, um because we can keep these mail machines for about 10 years and when we look at a five-year plan or a 10-year plan, it makes more financial sense to purchase.

G

What's the cost, I can tell you do you want to know.

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For 60 month term, so that's five years it's 600 a month times, 12 months a year times five years.

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And that's an option I mean they quoted us on that, but there.

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Wouldn't be a man correct.

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Could you think.

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Chris, I got a question. You know, I think commissioner krieger brought up uh the courts, do use it quite a bit is: is that cost captured and indirect as well.

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We actually, um when you put a piece of mail through the mail machine, you have to put an account in there. So any sort of postage that is used by any department has their account number in it, so their postage gets put back into their department. So every department pays for their own postage.

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And then in the budget, every department budget so much for.

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Good all right, thank you very much, commissioner krieger yeah, but it's still another question. You know: we've we've put this big push on to go paperless.

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You know, and we've invested a lot of money into computers and software are we going to at some point see a reduction in some of the expenses as we continue down that path of being you know paperless, or is it just uh something that we say we're going paperless to feel good? I'm curious.

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What I could do is I could get the postage totals for the last five years and see if there's been a trend, a downward trend. I can get that information for you yeah. Maybe we can.

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Do we'll discuss it again, then, next week, at the full board? Okay,.

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Thank you, commissioner tilley. I think on that note then ernie is that if there are departments that we're not seeing a decrease in trends, maybe we can look into some enhancements in those departments and effort to bring those costs down. If there are ways to do that, I know some.

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Of them are legal they're going to have to do.

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Some mailings, but in other cases sometimes people.

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Slow into moving into the the digital age, because they're comfortable.

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Need some encouragement, so, okay, we've also come back to our electronic fund transfer to our vendors downstairs, sending checks.

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That's coming along real well.

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Okay, thank you very much. Anybody else have any other questions see. None all in favor, aye aye I'll oppose motion carries from the juvenile home director. This is uh funding to purchase radios, support movement, support. Any questions or discussion, commissioner loves.

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Yeah we got some information handed out to us.

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And earlier today I talked to a few staff members by chilling later so- and uh you know we're gonna, the whole county is gonna, go to 800 megahertz, so this is a quarter to get 800 megahertz uh radios rather than the vhs, which was what was originally talked about because they couldn't get hold on this. So this is going to be quite a quite a savings and quite a thing for us in the future to actually find this vendor, which we can in the future, buy additional radios and stuff too.

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I just have a question.

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You know, I know that a lot of times a lot of people buy, they buy these radios local, you know, so I guess the question is so after they buy them. Well, if there's maintenance has to be that'll, be shipped out to be fixed. Hopefully how does that work.

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A couple of things: they're, the motorola product, it's the xts 5000 radio and the refurbished radios to buy them brand news, three thousand dollars refurbished is 8.75 and in a couple of years actually the xts will be no longer made by motorola they're moving to a different different product. But this product lifespan is another 10 years plus.

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So it's the same product that law enforcement um firearms are using today and they've done so we provide the interoperability.

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We've been looking for with the juvenile center here at the central dispatch ryan, and I are looking at another product related to radios and we were just kind of discussing with the vendor um motorola products and we moved to apex, which is a new system and this radio with the xps, the one that we currently have, and he said well, I know of another vendor that that integrated refurbished.

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I want to take a look at it, so we've checked in the vendor and looked at them and their incredible vendor and there's a significant savings in this way.

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Thank you, commissioner, um on the refurbished, though, because I bought refurbished things before. Is there a warranty or there's any service done? I know the motives that I've done that here doesn't warranty if it's refurbished, because it's done by somebody.

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Else after market.

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um They're very helpful in showing you how to get the service from yourself. You have to do it yourself.

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There's a 90-day warranty on the radio itself, as opposed to one year, warranty that would be purchased from motorola and then they would just send those back. They call it depot no different than.

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All right, thank you, sir julie. I got a question. uh Would this purchase be eligible for the 50? No, all right for the 50 50 state uh met.

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Here just a question all right. Thank you. Any other questions, seeing none all in favor, aye, aye I'll oppose motion carries from the 911 phone system, intergovernmental agreement edition report moved and supported any questions or discussions, seeing none all in favor aye. All opposed motion carries from the health director funding for the naloxone and narcon distribution to the police and the first responders.

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In support of any questions or discussions, seeing that all in favor all right I'll oppose motion carries uh amendments three and four to the cpbc agreement.

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Moved and supported questions, commissioner.

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Begin this is the fish item. I believe right did you say fish? I don't know somebody had called me before about the the new handouts. The brochures are distributing and some questions about the scientific accuracy of them. I don't know, what's come about since we talked prior.

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To 2013 fish consumption.

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Were based on 1980 data and what the michigan department of community health has tried to do in the last couple years is um use the new world standard fish, consumption advisory and adapt that to local local conditions, um putting out fish advisories on walleye and bluegill, and all the local fish that we find in sag river sagan bay lake huron.

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It was confusing on some parts, because you know you went from one standard and then to another where we had unlimited walleye consumption before to uh wallet consumption only once per month, and it was confusing at two levels. Number one was number one: why did we change from unlimited? And that's because the science and methodology and methodology has changed, but.

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That's also based.

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On this confusing part number two: why is it only once per month recommended- and that is the most conservative estimate? So if you do not know how to properly cut cook and clean any fish such as a walleye, if you have genetic predisposition towards certain types of cancers or illness, you should take that and do it now, if you also, you know, don't lead a healthy lifestyle that means predisposing towards an illness within the toxic toxicity of the fish we did get together and we met with some of the folks that brought those issues up.

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We explained to them the new science methodologies or the state that explained that, and that was greatly appreciated and we're in the process right now of upgrading those brochures and those things. So it really can talk to people about understanding what their risk is and the fact that we're not trying to discourage people from eating fish, but we just want them to know what their risk might be in regards to um some of the fish that make a lot of local waters here. There's.

J

Also, fish advisory information.

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About fish that you buy from the store, for example, tuna, fish and things like that, which in some cases have much more toxicity than some of the local fish around here as well. We don't.

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Want to discourage.

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People from eating fish, we just want them to make sure that they properly cut cook and clean the fish, and then they understand the risk overall.

A

Thank you, commissioner. So joe just lately, we've seen a change with the dnr. Now the walleye will be a little smaller that they can keep and they've increased the number of fish that they can catch. So do you anticipate maybe down the road another change on fish consumption, saying that individuals are going to have a greater amount.

L

I believe in it you know, don't quote me on this, a matter of fisherman myself. um I think that the the legal limit for walleye is 14 inches. Well, it's.

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It's less now yeah and typically what you find greater and bigger fish to find more or what that's to be expected. I mean if you went and shot a deer. uh You know you might be facing some of the same types of issues so yeah.

L

It probably will change and that's not necessarily a bad thing, because if we face everything by 1980 signs, we would be way parking on it. So.

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Thank you. Thank you, sir anybody else. Thank you. Joel. No other uh discussion. All in favor all apparently motion carries amendment two to the mdeq agreement.

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Support will be supported, questions or discussion, seeing none all in favor. All right, well opposed motion carries from the director of the division on aging region, seven area agency on aging. These are carryover funds or movement support. Any questions or discussion see a nun all in favor. All right I'll oppose motion carries from the mosquito control manager. This is a tracking system, so moved and supported. Questions or discussion see none. uh Commissioner krieger.

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I do with this tracking system so we'll be able to monitor it or someone will be able to monitor it on the screen where all these vehicles are correct. This could be a.

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To tell us if it goes by your house and it shuts off and you know shuts off or if it's on or anything more time it goes by your house, but it's good. It's going to be a lifetime.

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Anybody else see none all in favor I'll oppose motion carries. uh Let me see where are we here? We are on k, community corrections, manager, fiscal year, 2016, grant application or moved and supported any questions or discussion, seeing none all in favor, aye aye all opposed motion carries. We have some payables from the general bayonet center ridge arms.

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Some support, moved and supported any questions or discussion, seeing none all in favor. All right I'll oppose motion carries from the finance officer. We have some budget adjustments.

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Moved and supported questions or discussion see none all in favor. All right I'll, oppose motion queries. We have the 2015 analysis of the general fund. Equity will be received, support, moved and supported questions or discussion, seeing none all in favor. All right, I'll, oppose motion carries. We have uh the executives directive, 2007-11.

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Been supported any.

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Questions or discussion see a nun all in favor. All right I'll oppose motion carries we have the 2016 budget calendar schedule so moved and supported any questions or discussion see none all in favor, all right. All opposed motion carries and from riemann um they have a changeover for the preparation of the kafir and the implementation of the sp 67.

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Supported any other questions, seeing none all in favor all opposed motion carries from the mshda housing coordinator. We have amendment number three to the mshda grant.

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We have the regional housing study, uh participation.

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Support moved and supported any questions or discussion.

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Commissioners,.

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um Stock within the prosperity region, 500 partners um from there we'll be able to tell how to best fund our money. Do we need to build, say apartments townhouses, where people looking to live. It's going to study traffic patterns in and out of the regions to see where they're going to jobs from it's a pretty in-depth study. That's going to help us better focus our housing on the.

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Okay, thanks francis hey frank, great.

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um Who's conducting this stuff who's in charge.

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um Is overseeing it and right now they are in the process of getting bids narrowing it down. There was one company that.

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Anybody else have any questions, see you none all in favor, all right I'll, oppose motion carries under end. We have a resolution in opposition to senate bill. 321 support, moved and supported any questions or discussions.

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Referrals in the unfinished business new business tom.

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Thank you, mr chair, laura is at a soil conservation state meeting over at the doubletree, otherwise she'd be talking and not me.

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What we'd like to do is to have on the agenda next week the authorization for applying for a fish and wildlife grant for frank mighty's control and we'll see that something in writing is 2dn for the.

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I'll post motion carries uh no close quest session third time. Thank you. Ma'am uh miscellaneous announcements, commissioner krieger. Yes we're finally into june today. I think it's summer outside, but I know we're certainly going to have a hot temperature come june 20th, which happens to be our day for our beach wellness. We're done. We have a 5 and 10 k run.

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We also have a 5k walk that will take place in the morning at the bay city state recreational area, and we will also have volleyball on the beach and hopefully the northeastern winds will decide to take a break that day. So we should have a great day to come out and watch activities going on at the state park plus we'll also have our cars that will be coming in and in fact, a lady this morning who stopped by the shop and saw the brochures as uh part of an organization that uh does corvettes.

A

So there may be a possibility that we'll have a number of vintage corvettes coming into the park too. So that's pretty exciting yeah with that being said, commissioner krieger, I believe we're going to have a real expansion of the the car show. A lot of folks are contacting us and there are a lot of neat cars that are going to be out there.

A

So it's gives people a good opportunity to see what their beach looks like it's a beautiful place, just to go out, relax and enjoy enjoy a nice summer's day, and if anybody out there we, uh our shirts, are in well they're, not in yet we've ordered them, they'll be in soon. Somebody wants to make a contribution, a lot of businesses in the past labor organizations that have- and they are going to continue to get us some money, because all that money goes to clean the beach that isn't letting.

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Maybe let bob know and uh we'll uh get your name on the back of the shirt and that's it beautiful. What do they call that shirt that nice material? um I'm not sure it's a new.

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So uh won't be long and it'd be a great day for people to get out and enjoy enjoy the beach. So thank you very much. Anybody.

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Anything under announcements, anything.

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Up in penn.

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Yes, the, unfortunately, the same weekend, we have the chiefstown challenge with the little mises race and we hope our county park will be full, I'm sure it is going to be, and this event will be held friday, saturday and sunday, along with the cheese town challenge parade, that's in pink counting also that weekend all right. Thank you, sir.

A

Anybody else have anything under announcements.

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Cheers is going to be built this weekend on saturday, you helping out there's going to be over 100 volunteers out there, putting that together so yeah. My crew will be out there.

A

All right, thank you. Anybody else move to a chair, a favor aye all opposed motion.

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