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From YouTube: Bay County Board of Commissioners Meeting (9/14/21)
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0:15 - Call to Order
0:24 - Roll Call
0:45 - Invocation & Pledge of Allegiance
1:48 - Minutes (8/10/21)
2:04 - Citizen Input
7:48 - Petitions and Communications - A. Chris Pinter, CEO, Bay-Arenac Behavioral Health - Community Mental Health Update
20:11 - B. Michigan Association of Counties - Steve Curry Presentation
38:57 - C. Appointments to Bay County Board of Canvassers
39:26 - D. Health Department Update
1:06:58 - Reports/Resolutions of Committees
1:17:55 - Reports of County Officials/Departments - County Executive
1:19:32 - Unfinished Business
1:19:36 - New Business
1:19:38 - Miscellaneous
1:20:38 - Announcements
1:21:20 - Closed Session (if requested)
1:21:28 - Adjournment
A
B
A
B
A
We
have
the
minutes
before
you.
A
motion
to
approve
would
be
an
order.
Absolute
support,
any
discussion
on
the
minutes.
Looking
on
all
those
in
favor
signal
by
saying,
aye
aye
opposed
motion
carries
next
on
our
agenda.
We
have
citizens
input
if
there's
anybody
from
the
public
that
wish
to
address
the
board
now
would
be
the
time
to
come
up
if
you
would
name
an
address
and
with
public
input.
D
Hi,
my
name
is
dr
salvaraj.
I
am
a
constituent
of
monitor
township,
I'm
a
physician
of
25
years
now
retired,
with
a
specialty
in
cardiology.
D
I
have
spoken
with
the
health
department
directly
as
well
as
mr
barsha.
We
know
each
other
fairly
decently
well,
and
I
just
wanted
to
come
here
to
I'm
also
a
part
of
a
group
called
bay
county
parents
against
close
contact
quarantines,
and
we
are
an
advocate
for
freedom
of
choice
in
terms
of
medical
freedom
as
well
as
parental
rights.
D
D
D
Non-Elected
government
officials,
local
and
state
health
departments
have
no
constitutional
authority
to
dictate
what
people
do
with
their
bodies
in
terms
of
masking
vaccines
and
testing.
Their
job
is
to
create
policy,
not
laws.
Policies
are
not
legally
enforceable.
Policy.
Does
not
equate
mandate
policy
does
not
equal
force
or
coercion
at
all.
D
There
are
federal
statutes
that
take
that
make
it
a
crime
for
elected
officials
to
conspire
to
hinder
or
take
away
the
constitutionally
protected
rights
of
their
constituents.
Every
time
the
school
board
the
local
hd
tries
to
take
away
our
rights.
They
are
violating
these
federal
statutes
that
can
result
in
penalties.
D
D
Official
joe
biden
has
no
authority
to
deliver
mandates
for
the
v,
the
vaccine
for
all
that
government
contractors,
employees,
private
sector
employees
and
companies
greater
than
100
people,
because
it
is
against
constitutional
separation
of
powers.
We
have
unenumerated
rights
as
individuals
guaranteed
by
the
constitution.
D
In
the
ninth
amendment
of
the
u.s
constitution
in
article
1,
section
23
of
the
state
constitution
biden
is
trying
to
get
the
department
of
labor
to
take
away
people's
right
to
freedom
of
choice
when
it
comes
to
medical
decisions,
when
there
is
risk
in
medical
decision
making,
there
must
be
choice
when
it
comes
to
medical
decisions
going
to
the
school
board.
Meetings
which
we
have
been
doing
or
in
coming
to
this
meeting
has
everything
to
do
with
what
president
biden
has
been
mandating.
D
D
State
rights
do
not
override
human
rights
and
constitutional
rights,
federal
mandates,
public
sector
and
private
sector
mandates
in
terms
of
mass
vaccine
testing
mandates
are
not
constitutional.
D
It
is
not
okay
for
the
installed
president
legislator,
governor
health
department,
school
board
teachers
union
to
be
influencing
and
making
decisions
about
my
child
or
anyone
else's
child
as
it
pertains
to
medical
decisions
if
any
of
these
entities
coerce
children
into
experimental
medical
treatments
without
proper
parental
express
consent.
This
goes
against
the
nuremberg
codes
and
these
entities
are
liable
for
criminal
penalties.
D
Parents
are
holding
their
leaders
accountable
and
you,
as
elected
officials,
to
represent
the
people,
we
hold
the
sovereign
power
and
we
are
against
overreaching
and
ineffective
government
mandates,
such
as
masking
asymptomatic
testing
discrimination
based
on
back
status
through
close
contact,
quarantines
and
mandatory
vaccines.
A
E
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
when
I
was
here
in
june,
I
told
the
commission
that
I
would
make
sure
I
keep
an
eye
on
some
of
the
legislative
proposals
being
told
around
related
to
mental
health,
and
so
I
did
want
to
just
give
you
an
update
today,
and
I
know
in
the
information
that
you
have.
You
have
a
copy
of
the
public
testimony
that
we
submitted
to
the
senate
related
to
senate
bills
597
to
598..
E
The
fact
there's
a
very,
very
well
done,
michigan
association
of
counties,
talking
points
that
I
got
from
commissioner,
but
today,
which
is
really
well
done
and
really
highlights
the
points
in
my
testimony
that
I
sent
in
so
I
just
wanted
the
commission
to
know
that
senator
shirky
did
in
the
middle
of
july,
when
there
was
only
one
session
introduces
his
senate
bills
to
privatize
the
system.
E
He
claims
that
it
won't
privatize
the
system,
but
I'm
sorry,
if
you
take
98
percent
of
anybody's
funding
and
give
it
to
somebody
else,
they're
out
of
business.
I
I
know
of
no
business
that
can
survive
98
of
their
money
being
given
to
somebody
else,
private
or
public
they're.
Just
as
the
numbers
are
too
staggering,
so
I
think
what
the
the
challenge
for
us
is
that
michigan,
like
many
other
states,
have
a
state
and
county
partnership
for
public
mental
health.
They
built
an
infrastructure
to
move
people
out
of
state
facilities.
E
We
used
to
have
47
state
hospitals
back
in
1959
and
we
now
have
five.
We
used
to
have
30
000
people
incarcerated
most
of
their
lives,
and
I
use
the
word
incarcerated
because
it
wasn't
really
treatment
based
now
they
treated
as
best
they
had
at
the
time,
but
it
certainly
isn't
treatment
based
like
it
is
now
in
the
community,
with
physicians
and
and
extenders
and
practitioners.
E
We
wipe
that
whole
system
out
and
put
ever
back
in
the
community
to
either
live
on
their
own
live
with
their
families,
live
with
loved
ones,
and
in
fact
this
commission,
not
only
in
1963,
was
bay
county,
one
of
the
first
adopters
of
communal
health,
but
this
county
actually
did
a
lot
of
development
of
residential
back
in
the
mid
80s,
and
there
was
a
political
price
for
some
of
the
commissioners
at
the
time,
because
people
were
scared.
They
were
concerned
about
their
problems.
E
It's
essentially
a
constituent-based
democratic
system,
and
what
I
mean
by
that
is,
if
somebody's
unhappy
with
their
care
they're
getting
at
mental
health,
they
can
come
to
our
open
public
meetings.
We
have
eight
or
nine
of
them
a
month
on
regular
basis,
tell
the
board
to
get
rid
of
me
if
they
still
don't
like
what
happens.
They
can
come
to
this
commission
and
tell
the
commission
to
get
rid
of
those
authority
board
members
or
just
get
rid
of
the
authority,
and
if
that
doesn't
work
every
two
years,
they
elect
a
new
commission.
E
So
there
is
ultimately
a
democratic
solution.
If
our
services
are
not
meeting
the
needs
of
the
public.
Ultimately,
now
some
people
would
say
sometimes
those
are
short-term
decisions.
Sometimes
the
electorate
doesn't
think
long-term.
That's
all
true,
but,
like
winston
churchill
said,
until
we
find
a
better
governmental
process
than
democracy,
this
is
the
one
we
kind
of
have
to
stick
with.
So
the
change
for
us
with
these
bills
is
that
essentially,
all
this
money
would
go
to
private
health
companies
insurance
corporations.
Some
are
out
of
our
non-profit,
not
even
located
in
michigan.
E
So
instead
of
a
penchanting
resident
being
unhappy
that
they
couldn't
access
mental
health
services,
they
could
call
aetna
in
minneapolis,
because
that
might
be
their
health
plan
versus.
Commissioner
fox
can
haul
me
in
front
of
this
commission
and
work
me
over.
I
mean
there
is
a
local
accountability
to
people
being
able
to
go
to
their
neighbors.
That
might
be
their
commissioners
and
say
I
don't
like
what
they're
doing
over
there.
Would
you
bring
it
up?
E
One
of
the
other
things
I've
struggled
with
is
when
we've
talked
to
the
state
officials
about
this,
and
I
can't
say
that
there's
momentum
at
the
state
to
do
this.
This
is
very
much
driven
by
some
private
interests
tied
to
the
health
plans
in
the
senate.
I
don't
know
that
the
governor
believes
this
is
the
right
way.
I
know
representative
whiteford
actually
has
an
alternative
bill
in
the
house.
E
That's
different
than
this
has
its
own
drawbacks,
but
she's
actually
trying
to
improve
things
versus
change
of
things
dramatically,
but
I
think
the
important
the
important
point
is
that
whenever
you
have
critical
public
infrastructure
critical
public
services,
they
have
to
be
accountable
to
those
persons
in
the
public,
the
families,
the
consumers
and,
if
nothing
else,
they're
elected
representatives,
because
when
you
don't
have
that,
when
some
central
authority
makes
a
decision
who's
not
accountable
to
the
people
it
serves
or
has
no
accountability
to
the
people's
local
representatives,
you
get
the
flint
water.
Well,
yeah.
E
It
won't
be
a
problem
if
the
lead
leeches
out.
Besides,
we
don't
live
there
anyway,
so
you
get
a
decision
that
was
a
horrible
decision
that
people
in
flint
were
opposed
to
at
the
time
and
they
were
told
they
didn't
know
any
better
and
they
needed
to
shut
up
and
do
what
the
city
manager
and
the
appointed
city
manager.
E
If
that
city
manager
lived
in
flint
and
drank
that
water,
I
think
the
decision
would
have
been
different
or
I
think
they
might
have
been
a
little
slower
to
make
that
decision.
That's
why
you
always
have
to
have
public
accountability.
Another
example
is
for
edenville
and
sanford
that
the
santa
eatonville
dam
was
controlled
by
a
private
interest.
Everybody
who
lived
on
wickson
lake
had
a
stake
in
that
earthen
dam
being
properly
maintained
and
supported.
It
wasn't
and
it
blew
up
when
they
had
the
storm
last
year.
All
those
people
lost
all
that
property
value.
E
The
owner
of
that.
Damn
he's
not
accountable
to
those
folks
he's
going
to
hide
behind
bankruptcy.
Court
he'll
be
protected
in
law,
his
law,
his
losses,
will
be
limited.
Everybody
up
there
lost
all
their
property
value,
because
the
resource
that
that
public
depended
on
was
managed
by
a
private
interest
who
had
no
accountability
to
any
of
those
people.
E
And
yes,
you
can
always
argue
after
the
fact.
Well,
we'll
see
them
in
court.
We'll
seek
remedy
from
the
courts,
but
those
are
after
people
have
been
injured
and
damaged,
and
when
you're
talking
about
people
with
behavioral
health
conditions,
substance
use
conditions,
you
can't
wait
till
after
they've
been
damaged
to
seek
some
kind
of
remedy.
E
E
I
don't
think
I'm
giving
anybody
a
surprise,
so
he
will
probably
get
this
through
the
senate.
We
don't
know
what
will
happen
in
the
house,
but
what
we
do
know
is
it
will
wipe
out
the
communal
health
system
and
it
will.
It
will
take
the
critical
resources
that
we
have
now
for
people
with
disabilities
and
mental
health
and
make
them
now
accountable
to
private
interests.
Who
can
make
those
decisions
without
any
concern
about
the
impact
on
the
communities
or
the
families,
and
that
will
not
do
well
for
the
people
that
we
serve.
F
E
There
is,
can
I
answer
that
mr
chair,
for
a
comment
on
the
last
page
of
my
testimony.
I
do
talk
about
some
of
the
emerging
models
for
integrated
care,
what
they
call
either
interpersonal
health
homes
or
certified
community
health
clinic
behavioral
health
clinics.
Those
are
like
the
fqhcs
where
you
build
the
sub,
the
substance,
abuse
and
mental
health
and
the
physical
health
care
all
in
the
same
visit.
So
they
come
into
the
clinic
and
they
can
get
all
the
services
there.
Hmos
don't
do
that.
E
I
mean
they
want
the
money
but
when's
the
last
time
you
went
to
an
agent
provider
that
had
an
integrated
system.
You
still
go
to
different
specialists.
You
still
go
to
different
practitioners
and
hmos
aren't
going
to
necessarily
push
for
that
because
they
want
to
control.
They
want
to
control
the
resources
they
don't
usually
direct,
provide
now
kaiser
directs
provide
some
in
california
there's
other
non-profit
hmos
that
are
also
heavily
provider
sponsored,
so
they
built
some
of
those
services.
E
None
of
these
medical
help
medicaid
health
plans
in
michigan
do
that
this
is
a
traditional
model.
When
you
were
a
practicing
person,
the
person
either
doesn't
need
the
care
or
the
provider
cost
too
much
and
everything
that
we
don't
pay
for
or
paid
them.
I
get
to
put
my
pocket
in
our
system.
I
don't
get
to
put
that
money
in
my
pocket.
I
have
to
send
it
back
to
the
county
or
to
the
state.
If
we
don't
spend
it,
and
then
I
hear
from
the
commissioners
as
to,
why
are
we
spending
more
money
on
services?
E
So
it's
a
it's
a
closed
system.
There
is
no
profit
gain
for
anybody.
Nobody
makes
money
if
homelessness
goes
up.
Nobody
makes
money
if
hospitalizations
go
up
and
and
the
privately
managed
system
their
their
administrative
rates.
I
believe
mac
cited
a
report
from
last
year
was
like
21.
You
realize
in
that
21.
Not
only
do
they
have
their
profit
margin,
all
of
the
money
they
spend
on
lobbyists,
they
can
count
as
administer.
We
can't
spend
a
dollar
of
public
money
on
lobbyists.
E
It's
obvious
it's
illegal,
but
if
we
could
take
part
of
that
three
billion
and
the
specialty
mental
health
services
spend
on
a
lobbyist,
there'd
be
a
lot
more
bills.
Coming
out
that
were
pro-county-based
system
I
can.
I
can
tell
you
that
the
other
thing
that's
important
to
remember,
too,
is
that
at
the
end
of
the
day,
the
state
county
partnership
actually
reduces
the
liability,
because
we
have
both
a
sovereign
immunity
as
a
county,
and
we
also
have
state
immunity
as
the
state.
So
I
don't
have
some
of
the
liability.
E
I
get
liability
through
irma,
just
like
the
county
does,
and
the
reason
that's
manageable
is
because
I'm
not
a
profit
enterprise.
It's
expected
that
I'm
going
to
serve
the
most
severe
the
most
people
in
the
community
in
most
need.
That's
part
of
our
mission.
It's
in
the
statute,
it's
expected,
so
I
don't
have
a
big
high
liability
price
tag
for
my
insurance
carrier,
because
I
have
a
limited
degree
of
governmental
immunity
provided
that
we
don't
we're
not
negligent.
E
So
that
also
helps
us
put
more
money
back
in
care.
You
lose
that
when
you
hand
it
off
to
a
private
interest,
you
lose
that
and
what
they
do
is
they
take
the
difference.
They
come
back
and
fund
services
at
80
on
the
dollar.
The
rest
goes
into
profit
and
ceo
salaries
and
things
like
that,
but
that
is
400
500
million
a
year
that
would
come
out
of
this
system
just
using
those
numbers
from
their
administrative.
A
G
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
having
me
today.
I
appreciate
it
appreciate
the
last
minute
notice
as
well
getting
me
on
the
agenda
I'll
try
not
to
waste
your
time
today.
I
do
have
a
presentation
to
go
over
with
you.
How
you
doing
jim
feel
free
to
interrupt
me
as
I'm
going
through
the
presentation,
ask
any
questions
that
you
may
have,
or
if
you'd
prefer,
to
wait
until
the
end,
I'm
I'm
fine
with
that
as
well.
G
So,
first
just
a
little
background
on
mac,
we
have
16
county
commissioners
on
our
board
two
from
each
of
your
six
regions.
We
typically
meet
about
four
times
a
year
at
least
four
times
a
year
at
our
two
conferences
and
two
other
times,
and
our
elections
for
our
board
are
happening
in
our
annual
conference,
which
is
coming
up
in
september.
G
G
So
what
is
the
purpose
of
mac?
First
and
foremost,
of
course,
is
advocacy,
we're
the
voice
of
michigan
counties
in
lansing.
We
also
do
advocacy
at
the
federal
level
in
cooperation
with
naco.
We
provide
various
educational
opportunities.
I
mentioned
the
conferences
that
we
host
each
time
year.
We
also
over
the
summer,
have
regional
summits,
which
are
one
day,
training
opportunities.
G
We
also
put
on
the
new
county
commissioner
school
every
two
years
with
in
cooperation
with
msu
extension,
and
finally,
we
have
services
that
we
provide
that
counties
can
take
advantage
of
that
oftentimes
save
counties,
money
and
time
in
their
jobs,
so
this
is
kind
of
a
list
of
some
of
the
priorities.
We've
been
working
on
this
legislative
session
and
we'll
continue
on
to
next
the
next
year's
legislative
session.
First,
I
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
budget
july
1st.
G
G
Some
some
of
the
budget
pass.
Some
of
it
didn't
so
they
are
now
working
on
a
budget
right
now.
If
they
don't
pass
a
budget
by
the
end
of
september,
there
will
be
a
state
government
shutdown.
Now
that
being
said,
we
do
targets
have
been
set.
That's
where
the
legislative
leaders
set
the
budget
targets
they
are
now
meeting.
We
do
expect
them
to
have
a
final
budget
done
in
the
next
few
weeks
before
the
end
of
the
year.
G
A
couple
of
things
I
want
to
highlight
on
there
you
can
see
some
of
the
things
that
have
been
passed
so
far.
What
we're
expecting
county
revenue
sharing
is
a
two
percent
increase
in
county
revenue
sharing
dollars.
That's
about
the
seventh
year
in
a
row.
We've
got
an
increase
on
county
revenue
sharing
dollars,
which
is
great
to
see
some
of
the
other
areas
I
want
to
highlight.
Michigan
defense
grants
149
million.
This
is
the
change
in
the
michigan
defense
system,
four
million
dollars
for
the
couch
county
veterans
service
fund.
G
That's
for
every
county
to
take
advantage
of
those
grants
to
provide
services
to
county
veterans
and
13
million
for
secondary
road
patrol
secondary
road
patrol
has
been
hit.
Very
hard
by
covet,
obviously
without
people
being
on
the
road,
there's
less
tickets
being
written,
so
it's
more
difficult
for
the
sheriff's
department
to
put
those
folks
out
in
the
road
so
moving
on
to
american
rescue
plan,
I'm
sure
you
guys
have
talked
a
lot
about
this.
I'm
not
going
to
spend
a
ton
of
time
on
it.
The
interim
rule
comment
period
has
closed.
G
We
are
expecting
that
rule
to
be
finalized
by
the
end
of
the
year,
if
not
early
next
year.
So
right
now,
the
interim
rule
as
it
stands
now
is
what
public
entities
should
be
using
as
guidance.
That
being
said,
there's
some
very
good
frequently
asked
questions
on
there
that
that
folks,
I
know,
are
using
we've
pre-qualified
four
different
vendors
to
help
counties
navigate
this
process.
As
you
know,
as
county
commissioners,
this
is
new
for
everybody
in
county
government.
G
You
guys
are
used
to
doing
more
with
less
it's
very
few
opportunities
for
transformational
investment
at
the
county
level,
and
this
is
really
an
opportunity.
So
we're
encouraging
folks
to
be
pragmatic.
Take
your
time
there's
some
time
to
spend
these
dollars.
But
let's
try
to
be
transformational
and
really
change
local
governments
with
some
of
these
funds.
G
One
of
the
things
we're
working
on
at
the
state
level
is
working
with
the
state
other
local
government
entities
on
providing
a
match
program.
So
this
would
be
an
opportunity
for
the
state
to
put
up
certain
amount
of
funds
in
certain
areas,
and
you
can
kind
of
see
them
listed
there
where
counties
would
have
the
option
to
match
the
state
or
cities
or
townships
or
villages
could
match
the
state.
G
We
want
to
make
sure
these
dollars
go
as
far
as
possible.
There's
foundation
opportunities,
partnerships
with
foundations
out
there,
I'm
sure
you're
hearing
from
people
you
never
heard
of
from
before
in
your
community.
So
I
think
there's
gonna
be
a
lot
of
opportunity
out
there
we're
working
with
the
state
and
those
other
interest
groups
to
kind
of
put
a
plan
together
before
people
start
spending
these
funds.
While
we
don't
expect
to
have
anything
finalized
before
the
end
of
the
year.
We
do
expect
something
early
next
year
on
that.
G
So
getting
into
our
legislative
priorities
for
your
county,
commissioner
terms,
we
are
one
of
five
states
that
limit
county
commissioner
terms
to
two
years.
Our
legislation
which
we've
worked
on
for
as
long
as
I've
been
at
mac,
which
is
10
years
now,
did
pass
the
senate
32-4
overwhelming
some
support
in
the
senate
is
now
in
house
local
government
committee,
which
is
chaired
by
julie
kelly,
a
former
county
commissioner
from
ionia
county
last
legislative
session.
This
legislation
passed
out
of
her
committee,
so
we
are
expecting
the
same
thing
to
happen
with
that.
G
Reforms
for
local
courts.
As
you
folks
know,
courts
are
expensive
to
operate.
They
cost
a
lot
of
local
dollars.
The
trial
court
funding
commission
was
put
together
about
three
years
ago
to
look
at
how
courts
were
funded.
This
was
in
response
to
some
of
the
fees
that
the
george
the
courts
could
charge
sun
setting.
We
did
get
an
extension
on
that
sunset
now,
it's
time
to
enact
some
of
those
reforms
to
make
sure
that
the
courts
are
properly
funded.
G
Everyone
is
using
a
consistent
system,
so
communication
is
better
and
this
these
trial
funding
recommendations
are
listed
on
our
website.
There's
about
seven
of
them,
and
legislation
will
start
to
be
introduced
now
to
reflect
some
of
those
recommendations:
local
governments,
finance
reforms.
This
is
kind
of
a
list
of
topics
that
we've
consistently
been
working
on
over
the
years.
For
those
of
you
that
don't
know,
county
revenue
sharing
is
a
statutory
revenue
sharing,
which
that
means
that's
appropriated
each
and
every
year.
G
That
means
the
legislature
could
appropriate
those
funds
away
if
they
wanted
to,
they
could
eliminate
county
revenue
sharing
if
they
chose
to
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
set
up
a
county
county
revenue
sharing
trust
fund,
which
would
limit
the
ability
for
the
legislature
to
do
that.
We're
working
with
some
legislators
right
now
to
set
that
up,
because,
obviously
we
want
to
make
sure
that
consistent
consistency
is
there
year
over
year
mandated
services.
I
mentioned
engine
defense
that
was
one
of
the
newer
mandated
services
that
came
out
of
the
legislature
a
few
years
ago.
G
If
you
think
about
the
change
in
the
17
year
olds,
moving
17
year
olds
out
of
the
adult
system
into
the
juvenile
system,
there
was
a
cost
to
that.
That
was
a
mandated
thing
from
the
legislature
that
is
also
going
to
be
funded
by
the
state.
So
we
want
to
make
sure
we
maintain
those
mandated
services
that
are
funded
by
the
state.
G
One
of
the
newer
pieces
of
legislation
that
came
out
of
the
upper
peninsula
is
a
tourism
reinvestment
excise
tax
for
counties.
What
we've
seen
is.
Obviously
tourism
has
always
been
popular
in
michigan,
but
we've
seen
a
huge
increase
in
it
due
to
covet
due
to
our
great
lakes,
the
upper
peninsula.
Well,
in
a
lot
of
the
up
counties,
they
don't
have
the
infrastructure
or
the
staffing
to
keep
up
with
the
road
patrol
to
keep
up
with
ems.
G
So
this
would
allow
a
three
percent
excise
tax
to
be
put
on
hotel
bedroom
beds
throughout
this
would
be
any
any
county
could
do
it.
Those
funds
would
be
restricted
to
public
safety,
though
so
it
would
have
to
go
to
public
safety,
ems
and
those
sorts
of
needs.
G
If
you
think
about
the
raphaeli
decision
a
few
years
ago
on
the
foreclosure
process
and
the
issue
that
caused
the
county
governments
back
in
the
late
90s,
there
was
an
option
for
counties
to
set
the
state
as
the
foreclosure
foreclosure
unit,
we
were
looking
to
reopen
that
window,
so
states
could
opt
out
of
being
the
foreclosure
unit
which
would
make
the
state
be
the
foreclosure
unit
to
kind
of
take
that
off
the
plate
of
counties.
G
With
that
rapid,
a
decision,
that's
that's
opening
the
doors
for
a
lot
of
problems
at
the
local
level
and
then
finally,
special
millages
on
tifas
and
ddas.
This
is
something
we've
talked
about
for
a
while
right
now,
special
villages
are
subject
to
tax
capture
districts,
ddas
tiffas.
What
we
believe
and
and
have
always
spoken
on
is
that
we
believe
those
special
militants
should
go
towards
what
those
special
millages
were
voted
for.
G
So
if
it's
a
road
patrol
millage
veterans,
millage
senior,
millage
road
repair,
millage,
those
should
go
towards
those
funds
and
shouldn't
be
siphoned
off
for
other
purposes,
so
we're
working
on
that
as
well
binding
arbitration.
This
is
some
legislation
that
we've
often
fought
against,
probably
about
the
last
six
years.
This
piece
of
legislation
you
can
see
the
bill
numbers
there
have
has
passed
out
of
the
house.
This
would
open
up
binding
arbitration
to
corrections
officers.
G
We
oppose
the
expansion
of
binding
arbitration
due
to
the
cost,
the
long-term
liabilities
that
could
be
associated
with
it
when
third
party
is
making
a
decision
and
also
is
unequal
treatment
for
the
system,
so
other
bargaining
units
don't
get
treated
equally,
so
we
do
oppose
that
we
will
be
opposing
it
in
the
senate,
the
opioid
settlement
about
26
billion
dollars
throughout
the
country,
I
believe
over
18
years,
so
michigan
is
due
to
get
800
million.
G
We've
been
working
with
the
attorneys
general's
office
and
some
of
the
attorneys
that
have
represented
counties
throughout
the
state
on
a
distribution
model.
For
that,
you
should
be
seeing
an
email
this
sunday,
which
would
allow
the
county
to
opt
in
it'll,
go
to
board
chair
county
executive.
G
That's
what
we
wanted
to
make
sure
you
were
aware
of
those
funds
will
be
restricted,
though
too,
to
opioid
issues,
so
whether
it's
prevention
abatement
things
like
that
those
funds
will
be
restricted
as
well,
and
that's
set
forth
by
the
judge
mental
health
senate
versus
house.
I
don't
think
I
need
to
go
into
that
much
further.
You
guys
got
a
much
more
thorough
presentation
on
that
than
I
was
going
to
do
so
I'll,
just
kind
of
skim
past
this
slide.
G
G
One
that
comes
to
mind
is
the
veterans,
disabled
veterans,
property
tax
exemption
right
now,
there's
a
few
pieces,
there's
probably
about
three
to
four
different
pieces
of
legislation.
That
would
actually
fix
that.
So
it
would
still
allow
for
the
veteran
to
get
that
property
tax
exemption,
but
the
state
would
reimburse
the
locals
for
that
exemption.
G
There's
some
better
models
out
there
than
others
in
news
legislation
in
that
legislative
in
those
different
pieces
of
legislation,
senator
bumstead
has
the
one:
that's
probably
going
to
be
the
the
best
one
that
we're
looking
at
that
hasn't
been
quite
introduced,
but
once
it
does
we'll
make
sure
to
pass
that
bill
number
along,
so
you
guys
can
help
us
out
with
it
human
services.
I
spoke
a
little
bit
about
this
already.
This
talks
about
17
year
olds
and
raise
the
age
fund
just
making
sure
sure
those
are
100
covered
by
the
state.
G
911
funding
sunset,
so
the
911
service
enabling
act
expires
at
the
end
of
the
year.
This
is
how
911
services
are
funded
throughout
the
state
and
with
the
advancement
of
next-gen
9-1-1
and
the
technology
that
is
required
for
that.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
doesn't
go
away
and
it
and
and
there's
some
changes
that
would
help
fund
that
next-gen
9-1-1,
so
you're,
looking
at
an
increased
p
prepaid
surcharge
from
five
to
six
and
a
half
percent
increased
post
paid
fees
from
five
cents
to
seven
cents.
G
Now
that
being
said,
with
those
increases,
there
is
a
mechanism
in
that
legislation
that
would
roll
back
the
fees.
Should
there
be
more
gener
gen
revenue
generated
than
what
is
needed
to
fund
that
next
gen
9-1-1.
So
this
bill
is
sponsored
by
rep
cali,
again
out
of
ionia,
and
we
do
expect
to
see
some
movement
on
this
pretty
quickly
and
then,
of
course,
infrastructure.
G
This
kind
of
talks
a
little
bit
about
some
of
the
infrastructure
expectations
laid
out
in
the
budget.
You
know
infrastructure,
the
definition
of
infrastructure
is
always
expanding.
It's
now,
you
know
no
longer
just
roads
and
bridges,
but
broadband
is
falling
in
there.
We've
got
pfas
issues,
water
safety
issues,
pipes.
Things
like
that,
so
huge
need
for
that.
Of
course,
the
federal
government
is
working
on
a
huge
package
of
bills
to
address
that
as
well.
G
We
just
want
to
make
you
aware:
we
are
keeping
our
eye
on
it
and
keep
you
informed
as
much
of
the
information
as
we
get
that's
kind
of
legislative
pcs.
There
are
policy
committees
that
meet.
We
have
six
of
them.
They
meet
typically
from
the
september
to
june.
Folks
are
more
than
welcome
to
participate.
You
don't
need
to
come
to
lansing.
You
can
participate
remotely.
We
had
a
remote
option
long
before
covid,
so
we
usually
have
about
half
and
half
participate
remotely
versus
in
person.
G
You
can
see
when
they
meet
there's
an
application
on
our
website
and
we'd
love
to
have
you
participate.
If
you
have
the
time
we
do
have
a
mac
pack,
it's
a
smaller
pack.
It
supports
31
county
commissioners
that
are
now
serving
in
the
legislature.
We
call
that
our
mack
county
caucus
our
job
is
to
remind
those
folks
of
the
challenges
they
had
when
they
sat
on
the
county
commission
and
not
let
them
forget
once
they
get
to
lansing
all
the
all
the
issues
and
things
like
that
they
worked
on.
G
This
is
our
mac
government
affairs
team,
dina
bosworth,
our
director
of
government
affairs.
She
handles
mostly
our
general
government
tax
policy,
transportation,
environmental
issues,
megan
kite
korean
from
iron
bay
city,
basically
yeah.
She
handles
our
health
and
human
services
and
judiciary
issues
and
hannah
sweeney
is
our
government
affairs
assistant
and
if
you
ever
have
a
question
and
don't
know
where
to
go,
you
can
email
hannah
and
she
will
point
you
in
the
right
direction.
G
G
These
are
mac,
communication
tools,
facebook,
twitter,
we
do
a
podcast
every
week,
that's
about
20
minutes,
long
instagram.
Hopefully
you're
getting
our
weekly
legislative
update,
that's
providing
some
information.
We
also
have
a
printed
newsletter
that
now
comes
out
every
other
month,
just
hopefully
providing
you
with
all
the
information
you
need
in
a
variety
of
different
ways
for
you
to
get
it.
So,
with
that
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
A
F
G
Yeah
those
were
publicly
vetted
through
livingston
county
actually
and
that
made
then
they
made
that
contract
piggybackable
to
everyone
in
the
state
so
very
similar
to
like
an
ideal
program.
H
Yeah,
I
just
wanted
to
thank
steve
for
his
presentation
today
and
also
indicate
that
bay,
county
and
and-
and
I
know,
boards
and
bonds
on
your
board,
your
state
board.
We
all
appreciate
the
the
very
strong
leadership
and
advocacy
on
behalf
of
counties,
and
you
know
especially
on
the
revenue
sharing,
but
all
of
the
points
that
you
touched
on
today
were
excellent
and
again
just
a
real
tribute
to
your
energy,
your
enthusiasm,
your
knowledge
of
local
government
and
at
both
the
federal
and
state
levels
advocating
for
local
government,
especially
counties,
but
well.
G
I
G
G
I
G
Yeah
yeah-
and
you
know
when
you
start
getting
in
the
pa-51:
that's
the
distribution
formula
for
road
dollars,
so,
whether
it's
gas
tax
dollars
registration
fees,
it
gets
very
convoluted
and
we've
probably
got
some
training
sessions
on
our
website.
If
you
ever
really
want
to
dig
into
it,
but-
and
we
actually
have
a
session
on
the
island
on
it
on
pa
512..
G
J
A
Let's
take
care
a
little
housekeeping.
I'd
like
to
back
up
to
the
presentation
that
was
given
by
chris.
A
motion
to
receive
would
be
an
order,
so
any
discussion
with
none
all
those
in
favor
signal
by
saying
aye,
aye
opposed
motion
carries,
and
then
I'd
like
to
have
a
motion
to
receive
steve's
presentation
on
mac
or
discussion
with
none
all
those
in
favor
of
signal
by
saying
aye
aye
opposed
motion
carries
next
on.
A
Our
petitions
and
communications
is
for
us
to
concur
with
the
incumbents,
for
the
republican
and
democratic
party
would
be
janice
pearson
and
tracy
parmanner.
A
K
Sure,
thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I've
been
asked
today
to
give
an
update
on
the
current
situation
with
with
the
virus
here
in
bay
county
and
where
we're
going
and
and
some
things
that
we're
doing
to
help
mitigate
the
spread
of
the
virus
here
in
the
community.
K
So
I
want
to
take
it
back
to
about
two
months
ago.
That
was
we
were
during
the
months
of
june
and
july.
We
were
at
the
lowest
periods
of
virus
activity
since
the
beginning
of
the
pandemic,
and
we
averaged
about
maybe
a
case
or
two
a
day
at
that
point
in
time.
K
Currently
we're
averaging
anywhere
between
18
to
25
cases
per
day
and
on
certain
days
we
actually
reach
up
to
50..
Now
this
is
nowhere
close
to
the
high
point
that
we
had
prior
to
christmas
or
after
easter,
but
this
is
all
primarily
due
to
the
delta
variant
and
its
transmissibility.
K
K
A
lot
of
these
cases
that
are
coming
and
that
are
happening
currently
are
because
of
in-school
transmission
and
I'll
talk
about
that
in
a
minute.
But
in
addition
to
that,
we're
seeing
fairly
sizable
increases
in
the
number
of
hospitalizations
in
persons
in
the
intensive
care
unit.
K
At
this
point
in
time
two
months
ago,
we
only
had
one
person
in
the
hospital,
no
one
in
the
icu
about
a
month
ago,
that
number
had
risen
to
about
eight
eight
people
in
the
hospital
and
still
maybe
two
people
in
the
icu.
Today
we
have
25
people
in
the
hospital
and
eight
people
in
the
icu
and
three
of
them
are
vented.
K
We've
had
a
handful
of
deaths
in
the
last
three
weeks
as
a
result
of
that,
and
almost
all
of
these
are
exclusively
amongst
the
unvaccinated
for
we
did
have.
We
do
have
regular
conversations
with
folks,
mclaren
bay
region
and
with
that
about
9
out
of
ten
people
that
are
actually
admitted
to
the
hospital
and
have
serious
cases
are
unvaccinated,
so
we're
redoubling
our
efforts
as
much
as
we
possibly
can
to
get
people
vaccinated.
K
But,
however,
you
know
we've
kind
of
reached
a
saturation
point
at
this
point
in
time.
We
do
anticipate
as
the
variant
grows
that
we
will
probably
see
increases
in
the
number
of
people
that
are
wanting
to
get
vaccinated.
K
K
The
vaccine
is
readily
available,
people
that
are
vaccinated
are
10
times
less
likely
to
have
serious
illness
and
end
up
in
the
hospital
and
10
times
less
likely
to
die
as
a
result
of
coca-19
than
a
person
that
is
unvaccinated,
but
one
of
the
ways
that
we
know
that
coping
is
spread
is
obviously
through.
Close
contact
and
enclosed
spaces
and
schools
are
a
particular
concern
to
us,
and
we've
been
working
with
the
schools
diligently
since
the
month
of
july.
To
try
to
prepare
for
this.
K
We
have
seen
substantial
transmission
in
all
of
the
schools,
whether
it's
public
or
private
connie
in
particular,
has
been
hit
relatively
hard,
but
they
have
not
had
to
close
down
school
because
we
have
our
test
to
stay
policy.
K
So
if
I
just
might
talk
about
that
for
a
few
minutes
back
in
the
month
of
may,
when
a
number
of
concerns
were
brought
to
us-
and
you
know
we
were
having
to
try
to
manage
school
quarantines,
we
consulted
with
harvard
university
and
were
able
to
determine
that.
If
we
could,
we
could
keep
a
person,
a
student
that
was
normally
considered
a
close
contact
in
school.
K
If
we
have
them
test
for
the
first
five
days
after
exposure
and
then
on
day,
seven
at
day
nine
in
that
way,
if
we
can
catch
them
and
if
the
testing
is
done
prior
to
entering
the
school,
if
we
can
catch
them,
if
they're
positive
before
that,
they
expose
themselves
to
others
or
exposed
to
others
and
have
more
close
contacts.
But
at
the
same
time,
we're
able
to
determine
too
that,
with
these
mitigation
efforts,
we
were
able
to
keep
a
number
of
those
students
in
school.
K
Now
that
was
done
prior
to
the
delta
variant,
and
we
had
71
students
participate
in
their
program
in
the
spring
and
for
the
most
part,
98
were
able
to
stay
in
school
and
at
the
other
we
were
able
to.
You
know,
identify
two
percent
of
the
students
overall,
the
one
thing
that's
different,
though,
as
I've
said
before,
is
that
the
delta
variant
is
pretty
virulent
and
it
spreads
quite
easily,
and
so
it's
been
able
to
really
spread
pretty
methodically
through
the
schools
and
penn
county
has
been
hit
extremely
hard.
K
Now
they
made
the
decision.
Their
school
board
made
the
decision
last
night
to
institute
masking
for
the
time
being,
I
believe
that
essex
will
hampton
has
done
the
same
thing
for
the
early
five
through
the
fifth
grade
programs
over
there,
but
we
are
still
in
consultation
with
all
the
schools.
Now
a
number
of
people
ask
us
on
both
ends:
end
of
the
spectrum.
Why
aren't
you
just
instituting
orders
or
why?
Why
do
you
need
to
institute
an
order
at
all
number
one?
We
institute
an
order
as
a
as
a
means
of
last
resort.
K
We
try
to
work
with
schools
and
organizations,
and
businesses
to
have
them
come
up
with
their
own
mitigation
strategies
when
we
feel
that
there
is
no
other
way
around
this.
If
we
have
to
do
something
we'll
issue
an
order,
we
did
issue
an
order
in
the
last
three
weeks
to
institute
the
test
to
stay
program
that
was
done
so
that
we
can
legally
institute
these
programs
within
the
schools
and
for
the
most
part
they
are
working
very
well.
K
No
school
has
had
to
shut
down
because
of
transmission
or
outbreaks
we're
able
to
keep
kids
in
school,
and
I
think
that's
an
important
thing.
I
think
it's
also
important
to
realize
that
the
test
to
stay
program
has
been
adopted
by
a
number
of
different
counties
here
in
michigan,
including
midland
county
livingston,
livingston,
county
ingham,
county
and
washington
county
and
a
number
of
others,
and
the
state
has
come
up
with
some
guidelines
for
their
own
variation
of
this
program
as
well.
So
it's
one
of
the
things
that
we're
being.
K
Lauded
upon
by
both
state
and
national
entities,
but
all
that
being
said,
we
have
quite
a
bit
of
a
road
in
front
of
us
with
this
delta
variant.
K
We
hope
that
the
numbers
don't
rise
in
the
hospital
and
we
are
working
diligently
with
the
hospital
to
make
sure
that
that
doesn't
happen
and
the
only
way
that
we
can
do
this
is
by
five
main
points.
Number
one
is
to
get
as
many
people
vaccinated
as
possible.
The
vaccines
are
safe
and
effective
and
they've
been
approved
by
the
fda.
A
Questions
for
joel
mr
conan,
thanks
joel
it
doesn't
look.
J
A
We're
going
to
get
enough
people
vaccinated,
you
know,
we've
got
somebody
here
speaking
today
about
constitutional
rights
and
things
like
this,
so
if
we
don't
get
enough
people
vaccinated,
the
next
variant
could
be
even
stronger
than
this
delta
variant.
So
how
do
we
go
about?
Addressing
that
I
mean.
Is
there
a
new
one?
Is
there
a
new
variant
coming
down
the
pipeline.
K
If
you
know
you
look
at
some
of
the
other
countries
that
have
80
90
vaccination
rates,
particularly
like
iceland,
germany
and
portugal
are
doing
a
very
good
job.
K
Those
are
those
are
countries
where
that
you
know
they're
pretty
much,
have
stopped
the
virus
in
its
tracks
or
really
have
kept
it
down,
they're
also
employing
to
a
good,
a
greater
extent,
rapid
testing,
both
within
the
home
and
within
workplaces,
and
I
think
that's
another
thing
too.
I
mean
we
use
that
right
now
in
the
schools,
but
I
really
would
highly
encourage
that
to
be
used
within
workplaces
and
at
home,
so
that
people
understand
and
can
tell
in
a
timely
basis
whether
or
not
that
they're
infectious
or
not.
K
So
I
think
those
are
the
major
things
now.
There's
been
a
lot
of
talk
too
about
whether
or
not
the
third
doses
are
necessary
and
there's
still
quite
a
considerable
debate.
That's
going
on
between
fda
and
cdc
on
that.
I
do
anticipate
that
by
the
end
of
the
week
or
the
by
the
beginning
of
next
week,
we'll
have
some
more
clear
and
definitive
pathways
of
whether
or
not
that
we
need
to
give
their
doses
or
not.
F
K
So
the
way
that
it
works
is
number
one
the
school
has
to
be
on
board
to
do
it
and
then
number
two:
the
parent
has
to
consent.
So
a
parent
of
the
student
has
to
consent
to
to
be
tested
for
that.
So
if
a
person
is
identified
as
a
confirmed
positive
case,
we
work
with
the
schools
to
identify
who
are
the
close
contacts,
and
then
we
get
with
the
parents
of
that
particular
student
or
the
of
those
students
and
say
number
one.
K
There's
the
option
given
to
do
the
testing
or
the
test
to
stay
program
as
we
call
it
here
in
bay
county,
and
so,
if
they
opt
to
do
the
test
to
stay
program,
they
work
with
the
school
to
test
prior
to
entry
on
those
days
now,
in
quite
a
bit
of
the
time,
we
don't
find
out
about
confirm
positive
cases
status
until
maybe
two
or
three
days
after
exposure,
and
so
you
know
all
in
all,
there's
seven
days
of
testing
that
we
have
prescribed,
but
usually
that's
truncated
down
to
anywhere
to
three
to
five
tests,
because
typically
we
don't
find
out
until
about
two
to
three
days
after
exposure,
that
someone
is
positive
and
so
that's
an
important
reason
too.
K
Why
we
want
to
catch
students
and
even
staff,
if
that
may
be
asymptomatic
and
carriers
of
that,
and
we
use
rapid
antigen
tests.
We
don't
use
pcr
tests
and
the
reason
that
we
use
the
rapid
antigen
test
is
that
those
antigen
tests
tell
us
are
good
indicators
of
whether
or
not
that
a
person
has
an
active
case
of
the
virus
and
is
contagious
to
others,
where
pcr
just
really
measures
the
presence
or
absence
of
the
virus
within
a
person.
K
So
they
may
have
had
a
previous
infection,
but
that
would
show
up
in
a
pcr
test,
even
though
that
they
recovered
in
are
no
longer
contagious
to
others.
But
the
rapid
antigen
test
actually
does
show
that
a
person
is
contagious
if
a
person
does
if
a
student
does
test
positive
with
that
antigen
test,
they
are
referred
for,
follow
up
with
the
pcr
to
confirm
and
then
they're
excluded
from
school
for
10
days
of
isolation,
as
would
be
any
other
positive.
I
Joel,
can
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
someone
who
has
had
covent
previously
and
what
is
your
recommendation
for
that
person
still
to
get
vaccinated?
Are
they
safe
or
non
and
the
safe
is
not
the
right
word
choice,
but
you
know
are:
are
they
immune
from
contracting
code?
Can
you
just
talk
about
what
would
be
the
best
for
that
individual.
K
So
that's
a
good
question,
commissioner.
So
the
the
question
is
whether
or
not
that
previous
cove
infection
incurs
enough
natural
immunity,
that's
better
than
the
vaccine,
and
while
there
is
natural
immunity
and
that
in
some
cases
that
that
natural
immunity
can
extend
it's
better
to
be
vaccinated
than
just
to
rely
on
natural
immunity,
it's
not
very
often,
but
it's
not
unheard
of
that.
A
person
that
has
had
previous
cove
infection
can
get
infected
again.
K
It
can
be
a
vaccination.
You
know
if
you're
old
enough
to
get
the
johnson
johnson
or
it
can
be
pfizer
or
moderna.
You
know
in
the
the
sciences
involved,
is
evolving
on
this
as
well.
K
I
would
not
be
surprised
to
see
that,
within
a
few
months
time
that
cdc
and
fda
would
state
that
natural
immunity,
plus
one
dose
of
the
vaccine
or
one
dose
of
a
vaccine,
would
constitute
the
same
protection
as
both
doses
of
the
vaccine.
C
K
K
So,
as
I
said
before,
what
we,
the
the
test
days,
that
we
establish
are
five
days
post
exposure.
So
let's
say
that
I
was
in
school
on
monday
and
came
down
sick
and
tested
on
tuesday
and
we
notified
your
school
and
you
were
a
close
contact
of
me.
So
assuming
that
you
didn't
get
that
notification
until
tuesday
afternoon,
you
would
be
given
a
notice
of
quarantine
and
in
that
quarantine
order,
you
would
be
given
the
choice
to
either
quarantine
for
10
days
or
start
the
testing
process.
K
So
already
one
day
has
passed
since
the
initial
exposure.
So
then
we
would
have
wednesday,
thursday
and
friday,
so
that
would
bring
us
to
day
four.
Now
we
wouldn't
test
on
saturday,
which
would
be
day
five,
because
school
is
not
in
session.
We
don't
expect
you
to
go
back
to
school,
just
to
be
tested
on
a
day
off
day.
C
H
Joel
could
I
know,
you're
in
regular
contact
with
school
administrators
board
members
and
superintendents
here
in
bay
county
four
districts.
Could
could
you
share
with
us
what
other
mitigation
efforts
are
being
taken?
I
know
superintendent
bigelow
spoke
to
the
lions
club
and
I
were
there
last
tuesday
and
indicated
they
had
invested
in
some
air
purification
systems
as
well,
as
I
believe,
ultraviolet
light
and
other
ways
to
try
to
make
sure
that
there's
a
clean
virus,
free
environment
and
then
also
I
did
get
a
a
question
from
one
parent
who
asked
I.
H
I
believe
that
their
preference
would
be
for
the
saliva
test,
as
opposed
to
the
nasal
test.
When
I
asked
you
about
that,
I
think
you
indicated
that
that
test
takes
longer
to
get
the
results
back.
It's
not
as
it's
a
little
more
expensive,
but
it
also
takes
about
48
hours
to
get
the
result
back,
as
opposed
to
the
quick
test
that
you
can
get
done
in
15
minutes.
K
Sure
so
I'll
talk
about
I'll
talk
about
the
mitigation
strategies
and
then
I'll
talk
about
the
testing
that
we've
got
currently
so
the
mitigation
strategies,
as
as
I've
stated
before,
is
we've
been
in
contact
with
all
the
school
districts
in
all
the
schools,
whether
they're,
public
or
private,
really
since
the
beginning
of
last
year,
but
more
importantly
for
this
year
in
regular
communication
with
them
on
a
weekly
basis
and
sometimes
on
a
daily
basis
since
july.
K
So,
as
I
mentioned
before,
there
are
a
number
of
different
strategies
that
we
highly
recommend
or
want
to
have
in
place.
The
first
one
is
masking.
Obviously
excuse
me
the
first
one
is
vaccination.
For
those
that
are
eligible
and
you
know,
vaccinations
are
not
mandated
mandated
at
schools
for
students
or
anything
like
that.
Nor
is
there.
K
We
do
not
have
any
authority
to
mandate
vaccinations
at
schools
that
really
takes
an
act
of
the
legislature
here
in
michigan,
and
it's
not
something
that
eyes,
health
officer
or
the
county
board
can
mandate.
You
have
to
wait
for
this,
the
state
to
mandate
that
now,
whether
or
not
that
work
site
mandates
via
the
the
president's
executive
order.
You
know
that's
a
federal
decision
and
that
really
affects
the
work
site,
not
necessarily
the
school.
K
So
vaccinations
are
a
key
thing,
as
I
mentioned
before.
Masks
are
another
thing,
but
mass
are
not
the
only
thing
because
mass,
not
all
mass
are
created
equal,
not
everybody
wears
a
mask
correctly.
You
know
you
really
need
a
good
tight,
fitting
mask.
Usually
one
that's
three
ply,
there's
been
talk
a
lot
about.
You
know
whether
or
not
that
kid
should
wear
n95s
and
95s
they're,
normally
called
respirators,
but
they're
just
really
thick
masks
that
you
wear
in
a
healthcare
environment.
K
Quite
typically,
you
have
to
be
fit
tested
on
an
annual
basis
for
it,
but
there
are
a
number
of
different
maps
that
are
just
as
good
out
there
for
students,
and
the
number
of
studies
that
have
shown
that
masks
are
effective.
Cloth
masks
are
effective,
are
are
numerous,
so
that's
one
thing,
but
it's
it's
the
individual
school
district's
decision
at
this
point
in
time
to
institute
a
mass
policy.
Now
all
that
being
said,
as
I
said
before,
is
that
there
are
other
strategies
that
are
just
as
important.
K
K
It's
not
always
easy
to
do
that
at
the
sixth
through
twelfth
grade
level,
but
it's
a
lot
easier
to
do
that
at
the
grade
school
or
elementary
school
level
and
then
finally
distancing
and
making
sure
that
sick
students
are
are
really
being
kept
out
of
school
and
that
there
is
early
identity
identification
via
testing
of
those
that
could
be
potential
spreaders
of
the
virus.
And
so
you
know,
for
the
most
part,
not
every
school
is
going
to
have
a
pers,
perfect
situation.
K
But
with
the
the
current
test
to
stay
program
and
with
the
guidance
that
we've
been
given
to
schools,
you
know
we're
fairly
confident
that
we
can
have
an
uninterrupted
school
year.
We
do
know
that
there's
going
to
be
bumps
along
the
way
and
until
that
we
can
get
the
vaccine
that's
available
for
everyone.
That's
going
to
be.
You
know,
that's
going
to
be
kind
of
hindering
us
in
our
approach,
but
it's
an
important
thing
now.
K
Finally,
you
asked
about
whether
or
not
the
antigen
tests
that
use
saliva-
I
don't
I'm
not
aware
of
one
that's
currently
approved
by
the
fda-
is
available
here
in
the
united
states,
most
antigen
tests
that
are
available
use
a
no
swap
they
don't
it's
not
the
same
kind
of
swab
as
you
would
get
in
a
pcr
test
where
you
got
to
go
all
the
way
back
to
the
nasal
pharyngeal
area.
K
But
the
test
that
we
use,
which
is
the
binax,
now,
is
pretty
effective
and
it
actually
gives
test
results.
It
can
take
up
to
15
minutes,
but
it's
been
our
experience
that
it's
anywhere
between
five
to
seven
minutes
now.
The
other
thing
about
that
is
the
most
of
the
tests
that
do
use
saliva
our
pcr
test
and
number
one,
as
you
mentioned
before,
jim,
that
those
tests
are
expensive.
K
So
it's
not
really
an
option
for
us
now,
but
I
do
anticipate
that,
with
the
president's
executive
order
and
especially
expansion
of
testing
at
schools,
that
there
could
be
some
sorts
of
antigen
tests
that
do
use
saliva
and
if
that's
the
case
then
yeah
absolutely,
we
would
look
into
it.
H
Yeah,
thank
you
jolan
for
those
students
that
that
don't
wanna
or
the
parents
don't
want
their
children
tested
or
vaccinated
and
they're
quarantined.
If
they
don't
want
to
be
tested
that
they
still
have
access.
All
of
our
school
districts
have
virtual
learning
for
those
students
that
would
be
quarantined
for
not
full
10
days.
10
calendar
days,
not
10
school
days.
Correct,
that's
correct!
Yes!
H
K
That
is
my
assumption,
but
you
know
we.
We
have
authority
and
control
over
the
the
testing
and
the
medical
option,
but
not
necessarily
the
educational
options
within
each
school
district
or
every
particular
school.
But
it's
my
assumption
that
virtual
learning
is
usually
offered
to
those
students.
A
A
That
being
said,
joel,
I
appreciate
it
very
much.
A
motion
to
receive
his
report
would
be
in
order,
let's
support
any
other
discussion
on
it.
That
being
said,
all
those
in
favor
signal
by
saying
aye,
aye
opposed
motion
carries
we'll
move
into
resolutions
and
of
reports
for
the
committees,
ways
and
means
that
will
bring
up.
Commissioner
fox.
I
I
Number
2021-134
the
base
tv
sponsorship
agreements
for
the
2021-22
year.
I
move
this
resolution.
I
I
I
I
A
I
A
Discussion,
mr
cohen
yeah,
just
so.
I
know
that
they're
not
going
to
be
given
any
fees
and
we
haven't
even
decided
or
discussed
what
we're
going
to
be
doing
with
this
art
money.
So
at
some
point,
within
the
next
couple
of
years,
we're
going
to
have
20
million
dollars
so
anytime
that
they
won't
be
we're
not
going
to
cut
them
a
check
for
anything
until
we
actually
start
to
discuss
this
jam.
L
The
only
thing
that
we
are
in
talks
with
them
is
actually
reviewing
our
revenue
calculator
so
that
which
shows
our
losses.
So
that
was
an
estimated
cost
of
like
300
on
that
and
that's.
K
H
K
L
That
is
the
only
discussions
we
have
had
with
them,
so
that
is
something
we
could
do
right
away.
Sure.
A
L
I
C
C
All
right
I'd
like
to
move
into
actually
resolution
2021-146
that
one
is
from
personnel
that
that
is
from
the
probate
court
notified
of
work
being
completed
under
the
direction
of
the
michigan
indigent
defense.
Commission
probate.
Juvenile
court
is
requesting
a
temporary
position
not
to
exceed
15
hours
per
week,
funded
through
december
31st
2021
to
assist
in
the
timely
completion
of
duties
until
a
long-term
resolution
can
be
found,
move
this
resolution
support.
I
Yes,
when
we
talked
about
this
resolution
at
the
personnel
committee
meeting,
I
had
asked
that
it
not
to
exceed
three
thousand
dollars,
which
was
their
estimate
for
funding
this
position,
and
I
don't
see
where
that
was
added
to
the
resolution,
so
I
would
like
that
to
be
added.
I
don't
know
if
that
requires
a
separate
resolution.
J
A
Okay,
yeah,
so
if
we
amend
the
resolution
to
add
not
to
exceed
three
thousand
dollars
I'll
support
that
okay,
just
a
quick,
quick
question,
this
michigan
indigent
defense
commission,
a
couple
of
years
ago,
the
gal
came
from
the
state.
Is
that
related
to
this,
the
work
that
they're
doing.
J
J
J
A
And
I
see
we
have
andrea,
sorry
missed
you
on
the
screen.
That's.
M
Okay,
everything
amber
said
is
correct,
I
think
you
know,
we've
all
dealt
with
grants
and
how
very
specific
they
are
and
what
can
be
money
can
be
spent
on
and
we
were
doing
things
for
quite
a
while.
That
was
not
our
responsibility.
A
Right
or
before
the
michigan
indigen
defense
commission
decided
they're
not
doing
or
paying
for
it
who
was
doing
the
work
before.
M
Before
it
was
when
circuit
court,
when
the
office
of
assigned
counsel
was
under
circuit
court,
so
office
of
assigned
counsel
was
doing
it.
M
So
it
came
under
midc.
Then
I
believe
we
continued
it
for
a
while
and
then
the
grant
requirements
for
what
probate
had
as
well
increased
as
to
how
their
billing
had
to
be
done.
How
frequently
and
what
kind
of
tracking
had
to
be
done,
and
our
our
responsibilities
increase,
and
also
it
just
is
outside
of
our
funding.
A
Thank
you,
commissioner
johnson.
Thank
you
move
into
board
of
commissioners.
Commissioner
conan.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
From
the
board
of
commissioners.
We
have
resolution
2021-145
reports
of
the
county
executive.
I
mean
this
resolution
support
discussion
with
none
all
those
in
favor
signal
by
saying,
aye
aye
opposed
motion
carries.
H
You,
mr
chairman,
I
don't
have
a
lot.
I
just
wanted
to
compliment
commissioner
vaughn,
the
kick
and
all
of
the
and
all
of
the
great
membership
of
the
bay
city
lions
club
for
the
pawpalooza,
which
was
held
on
saturday
and
by
far
the
most
successful
event
held.
It
was
the
third
no
it
wasn't
held
last
year
was
it
so
it
was
just
second
or
third
or
third,
so
yeah.
It
was
a
success.
H
H
Sandy
fisk,
the
former
president
of
the
bay
city
lions
club,
took
that
on
as
a
project,
and
I
was
amazed
at
how
many
of
the
lions
were
out
volunteering
and
it
was
a
sexual
successful
event
and
thank
you,
vaughn
for
all
the
time
you
donated,
and
also
our
animal
shelter
and
craig
galette
work
closely
with
sandy
and
hope
to
even
work
closer
next
year,
but
the
event
was
held
next
to
the
animal
shelter
at
the
bay
county,
fairgrounds
and
good
turnout
for
the
duration
of
the
event
from
nine
until
two
o'clock.
H
So
a
very
successful
event
just
wanted
to
report
that-
and
I've
already
spoken
a
little
earlier
on
the
agenda
so
we'll
let
it
go
and
until
I'll
give
a
more
full
update,
perhaps
up
the
next
on
other
issues
at
the
next
board
meeting
pretty
good.
Thank
you.
I
F
Be
a
pow
mia
ceremony
this
friday,
the
17th
at
the
bay
county,
vietnam
veterans
memorial
also
called
the
helicopter
memorial.
So
it's
the
actual
date
of
the
recognition
day
for
pow
mias
there'll
be
a
brief
ceremony
in
color
guard
and.
A
Under
appointment
in
october,
we
have
a
land
bank
authority,
it's
a
one
three
year
term
at
large.
We
also
have
department
of
health
and
human
services
board
of
directors
a
one
three
year
term.
That
again
is
a
governor's
appointment.
A
In
november
we
have
a
building
authority,
which
is
a
two
six
year
term
and
in
december
we
have
veterans
affairs
committee,
two
four-year
terms
and
also
in
december.
We
have
department
of
aging
advisory
committees
for
two-year
terms,
and
these
are
the
districts
one
three
five
and
seven
just
for
a
reminder
and
then
miss
amber.
Is
there
a
need
for
a
closed
session?
A
Very
good?
I'm
sorry,
commissioner
johnson,
did
you
have
something
you
wanted
to
say
not
at
this
time
then
we'll
go
to
commissioner
truman
move
to
adjourn.