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Afternoon
my
name
is
Bill
Erna
time
with
the
east
Michigan
Council
of
Governments
I'm
here
to
discuss
the
approval
of
the
hazard
mitigation
plan
and
we've
been
working
with
mr.
Redmond
and
we're
contacting
work
with
you
to
see.
If
we
convinced
you
to
apply
for
that
grant,
the
grant
is
for
I
believe
54
to
$60,000.
D
The
hazard
mitigation
plan
is
a
requirement
of
FEMA
to
receive
pre
disaster
funds
so
that
you
could
do
projects
that
would
mitigate
damages
rather
than
doing
projects
that
post
disaster
projects
flooding
whatnot
right
now.
The
government
also
is
looking
to
have
Hazard
Mitigation,
be
incorporated
into
all
plans.
So
within
the
next
five
to
ten
years,
Hazard
Mitigation
will
be
part
of
the
master
plan
will
be
part
of
the
Parks
and
Rec
plan.
So
it's.
D
To
have
that
plan
in
place,
it's
a
five-year
plan
you're
currently
expired.
Your
plan
was
done
in
2011
and
you
are
not
currently
eligible
for
pre
disaster
assistance
or
flood
mitigation
assistance.
So
we'd
like
to
help
you
with
that,
get
that
in
place.
Our
office
has
done
seven
plans
in
2010
and
we
did
five
plans
in
2016
in
which
I
was
the
primary
contact.
Persons
in
the
office
and
I'm
currently
working
on
plans
in
both
Santa
Lac
County
and
rachet
I.
D
You
know,
there's
like
I
said
the
25%
matches
in-kind
that
there's
no
cost
to
the
county
outright.
The
grant
would
would
pay
for
all
of
our
services
that
conjunction
with
a
plan.
It
takes
approximately
two
years
to
get
completed
once
once
it's
awarded.
So
if
you
get
your
application
and
now
I
think
the
applications
due
within
the
next
couple
weeks
to
the
Michigan
State
Police,
who
handles
the
FEMA
funds
and
they
would
be
awarding
it
in
the
springtime
and
I'd
be
happy
to
take
any
any
questions.
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F
So
it's
2017
right
now
I
would
have
thought
somebody
when
I
came
here
at
the
end
of
getting
close
to
the
expiration
of
our
five-year
contract.
So
we
wouldn't
have
had
elapsed
because
I'm
assuming
if
we
would
have
still
been
eligible
or
legal
that
maybe
some
of
the
people
that
had
issues
with
the
storm
we
had
in
June
and
flood
damage
that
they
might
have
been
capable
of
having
some
assistance.
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D
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B
D
D
For
for
a
flooding
project,
if
you
have
let's
say
three
or
four
homes
that
are
in
a
floodplain,
you
could
purchase
those
homes
buy
them
out,
then
the
master
songs
and
you
have
a
Greenway
Midland,
did
that
a
couple
years
ago
they
eliminate
the
eliminated
homes
that
were
being
flooded
in
year
in
year
out.
You
eliminate
those.
You
could
do
a
culvert
system,
improving
that
when
you
have
water
water
issues
as
well.
G
D
What
happens
is
in
the
when
you
start
working
in
the
process?
Your
emergency
management,
director
or
coordinator
would
with
front
the
project.
He
would
have
been
utilized
volunteers
in
the
county
municipalities.
The
drain
commissioner
of
the
road
commissioner,
whomever
he
feels,
is
important
to
be
a
part
of
the
team
that
evaluates
the
2011
plan
and
then
updates
that
into
the
2020
plan.
They
would
identify.
H
A
A
A
H
Good,
so
sorry
about
the
delay,
everything
is
working.
I
I
B
C
F
H
H
H
So
I
am
delighted
to
be
talking
with
you
on.
Thank
you
again
for
accommodating
me
by
video,
so
I
not
see
there
as
person
and
I
did
had
a
chance
to
talk
with
with
your
corporation
counsel
in
the
past,
I'm,
not
sure
I,
don't
have
a
presentation
for
you
all
I'm
happy
to
talk
to
you
about
the
litigation
I'm
happy
to
answer
questions
you
have
whatever
would
be
most
useful.
J
J
J
I
think
that,
basically,
the
commissioners
would
like
some
general
background
information
from
you
on
what
the
firm
is
thinking
in
terms
of
potential
litigation
and
what
the
costs
are,
potential
costs
to
the
county
could
be
and
what
type
of
damages,
maybe
they
would
be
looking
at,
removing
not
in
terms
of
numbers,
but
just
what
type
of
damages
they.
You
know
the
county
may
have
incurred
as
a
result
of
the
expenses.
J
H
All
right
I
will
try
to
remember
all
of
those
but
prompt
me
if
I
forget
anything.
So
we
have
been
working
with
a
number
of
government
entities
on
opioid
related
litigation.
We
represent
the
first
jurisdictions
to
have
filed
back
in
2014,
which
is
a
long
time
of
negating
against
pharmaceutical
companies,
but
on
behalf
of
the
city
of
Chicago,
which
filed
as
I
said
in
2014,
we
masterminds
motions
to
dismiss
the
cases,
deepen
discovery
about
12
million
pages
into
discovery.
We
also
represent
Santa
Clara
County.
H
South
Carolina
Alaska
Kentucky
and
then
one
more
that
has
a
publicly
announced
its
investigation.
So
we
are
very
much
committed
to
opioid
litigation.
We
recognize
the
enormous
cost
that
it
is
imposed
on
counties
on
towns,
on
states
and
on
families
and
communities
around
the
country
in
terms
of
the
litigation
itself.
One
of
the
things
that
Amber
and
I
spoke
about
is
it
is
a
tough
road
in
Michigan
and
I.
Certainly
don't
want
to
soft-pedal
that
to
you.
I
H
J
H
Federal
court-
and
you
know
that
is
I-
think
this
to
Michigan
there's
no
one
estrus
diction
that
has
I
think
the
obstacles
you
all
face
and
again
I,
certainly
don't
want
to
short
sell.
That
I
know
that
the
AG's
office
has
decided
for
some
of
those
reasons
that
it
is
going
to
pursue
gentlemen
rather
than
separate
litigation.
You
may
be
aware
that
a
group
of
states
have
banded,
together
in
a
multi-state,
are
investigating
and
looking
to
resolve
their
claim
against
the
pharmaceutical
industry.
There
are
two
sets
of
claims
here.
H
H
That
is
a
violation
of
its
duty
in
the
county
and
its
obligations
under
federal
law.
So
those
are
the
two
kinds
of
cases
in
terms
of
our
arrangement.
We
do
this
work
with
states
and
cities
and
counties
on
a
contingency
basis.
We
only
are
paid
as
a
percentage
of
any
recovery.
We
advance
the
expenses
of
the
litigation
and
those
two
are
only
repaid
if
there's
a
sufficient
recovery
in
the
case
and
then
amber
I
think
the
last
question
was
let
the
county
might
my
hope
to
recover.
H
So
there
really
a
couple
of
their
three
main
purposes
to
the
litigation,
and
obviously
all
of
this
is
if
we're
successful,
and
we
believe
that
the
claims
are
solid.
Notwithstanding
the
hurdles
in
Michigan,
one
is
to
get
them
to
stop
the
behavior.
We
know
that
drug
when
you
continue
to
market
these
drives
deceptively
to
claim
that
they're
not
addictive.
H
Excuse
me,
and
you
may
be
aware
that
one
of
the
major
sources
of
Olympic
use,
particularly
for
young
people,
is
finding
prescriptions
in
their
family
medicine
cabinet
and
that
sets
off
the
road
of
terrible
consequences.
So
that's
kind
of
the
injunctive
relief
that
that
typically,
our
clients
are
looking
for.
Then
there
is
recovery
of
the
county's
own
costs
and
providing
opioids
to
its
county
employees,
both
for
its
health
benefits,
program
and
workers,
compensation
program.
H
So
that's
really.
Your
proprietary
cost
is
an
employer
and
then
your
costs
and
the
government
and
that's
your
911
emergency
response
narcan,
if
you're
providing
us
to
your
first
response,
responders
medical
examiner
child
services,
anything
that
you
all
have
had
experienced
or
assumed
as
a
result
of
opioids
in
the
county.
J
H
And
I'm
glad
you
asked
that,
because
that
raises
two
things,
so
we
would
need
to
gather
some
information
from
the
county
and
that's
again
both
on
the
proprietary
side.
We
need
to
get
some
information
on
war
spending
for
opioids.
So
that's
through
your
health
benefits
program
in
your
workers,
comp
program,
so
we'd
be
a
little
bit
of
time
to
collect.
That.
H
We'd
also
want
to
talk
to
some
of
the
various
department
heads
who
are
involved
in
providing
services
and
that's
on
the
service
provider,
side
law
enforcement
side
we'd
want
to
talk
to
treatment
providers
and
doctors
in
the
county
to
get
a
sense
of
their
experience
for
the
opioids.
That
generally
takes
us
about
six
to
eight
weeks,
assuming
we're
able
to
get
the
information
from
you
on
I
know.
It
takes
time
to
pull
that
together
on
your
end
as
well
so
I
would
say,
probably
late
November
early
December,
giving
us
some
leeway
for
that.
H
One
of
the
other
things
that
I
want
to
make
sure
you're
aware
of,
is
you
know
there
is
a
responsibility
to
do
defensive
discovery,
assuming
that
this
case
is
successful.
We
survive
a
motion
to
dismiss
in
a
RICO
claim
and
Emory
knows
you're
aware
of
this,
but
you
know
it
can
be
a
considerable
obligation.
We
do
as
much
as
we
possibly
can
to
help
make
it
less.
H
There
are
many
counties
that
have
by
Ohio
Virginia
Kentucky.
Have
you
name
it
as
well
as
states
Seattle
just
filed
last
week,
there's
been
just
a
proliferation
of
these
cases.
Ultimately,
what
that
means
is
that
we
think
the
drug
companies
and
the
manufacturers
will
ultimately
decide
that
they
have
to
settle
these
cases
because
of
risk
and
not
doing
it
is
just
too
great
but
I
think
the
only
path
forward
for
them
is
through
the
states.
H
They
have
some
interest
here,
because
if
you
go
out
ahead
of
them
and
there's
a
bad
decision
that
really
undercuts
their
ability
to
participate
in
any
kind
of
national
or
global
settlement,
and
it
may
be
that
there
is
an
easier
path.
You
wouldn't
be
obligated
to
us
for
any
fees
in
doing
that,
but
I
think
it's
worth
exploring
before
the
heavier
list
of
filing
a
lawsuit.
So
that
was
a
long
answer
amber
to
your
question
about
timeline,
I
think
probably
early
December.
E
K
K
So
I
want
to
thank
you
for
your
dialogue
today
in
sharing
the
information
and
say
that
we
do
have
a
serious
issue
like
the
rest
of
Michigan,
the
rest
of
the
country
actually
in
terms
of
people
being
exposed
to
long
ranges
and
socioeconomic
backgrounds
being
exposed
to
particularly
toxic
complex,
you
mentioned,
and
some
of
the
other
more
super
potent
medications
for
terminally
ill
cancer
patients
that
we're
not
really
an
attendant.
You
know
for
casual.
K
Comfort,
so
we
appreciate
what
you're
doing
and
I
I'm
blessed
to
have
a
great
board
of
commissioners
and
staff
here
in
Bay
County
and
talked
with
them
about
this
opportunity.
What
I'll
do
is
relinquish.
You
want
to
thank
you
for
your
time
and
my
Griffin
was
hoping
to
get
up
in
September,
but
assures
us
he
will
would
like
to
get
up
and
meet
the
folks
in
Bay,
County
and
the
region.
L
G
Linda,
this
is
Tom
here
and
I
was
wondering
again.
Is
there
an
advantage
or
disadvantage
to
like
getting
out
and
finalist,
like
you
said
before,
as
Fayette
County
versus
a
state,
and
then
why
is
it
that
there
are
some
states
and
then,
like
you,
said
the
city
of
Chicago,
not
the
state
of
Illinois
right,
you
know
on
the
same
thing
with
other
cities,
why
is
it
like
the
state's
just
violent.
H
So
some
states
have
made
a
decision
that
they
prefer
to
you
know
either
because
the
issue
isn't
as
high
up
on
their
priority
list
or
because
that's
their
that's
their
approach
to
these
cases
to
go
that
route.
Other
states
I
think
have
felt
that
this
is
so
front
and
center
for
them
that
that
they
don't
want
to
wait
and
see
what
happens.
They
want
to
be
part
of
driving
that
process
so
and
I
think
to
some
extent
is
just
a
personal
and
policy
choice
of
various
attorneys,
general,
so
I,
don't
think.
H
There's
a
uniform
answer,
I
think
the
cities
and
counties
that
are
filing
and
filing
early.
The
reason
they
do
that
I
think
it's
twofold.
One
is
because
maybe
three
one
is
because
you
know
it's
the
county
executive
just
said,
and
I
wouldn't
presume
to
recite
you
all
the
statistics
of
your
problem.
You
know
them
and
live
them
in
ways
that
I
certainly
don't,
but,
but
it
is
a
way
for
you
to
visibly
engage
on
this
issue
and
to
make
sure
that
that
they
County
is
addressed
in
any
kind
of
resolution.
H
To
this
issue
and
I
think
that
goes
to
the
second
point
of
kind
of
lies
sue.
If
the
state
is
involved
and
I,
think
the
danger
for
cities
and
counties
is,
quite
frankly
and
again,
we
represent
many
states,
but
if
the
settlement
is
done
with
the
state,
the
money
goes
to
the
state
and
I'm
sure
you
all
have
experienced
that,
and
there
are
lots
of
states.
H
It's
not
going
to
settle
with
the
state
of
Michigan
and
leave
Bay
County
out
there
still
litigating
that
doesn't
serve
their
interests.
So
it's
a
way
for
you
to
protect
their
in
your
interest
in
the
state
in
a
global
settlement,
and
you
know
what
the
state
does
or
doesn't
do
isn't
in
your
control.
So
it's
a
way
of
making
sure
that
whatever
happens
with
the
bigger
case
that
your
claims
and
resource
needs
are
addressed
and
I
think
the
reason
for
filing
early
and
and
my
firm
was
very
involved
in
tobacco
litigation.
H
For
instance,
we
represented
32
states
in
that
litigation
for
the
states
that
got
there
earlier.
They
received
a
higher
return
and
settlement
and
they
had
a
larger
voice
and
what
the
release
looked
like
so
AG's
who
cared
a
lot
about
youth
smoking
or
you
know
whatever
it
may
be,
they
were
able
to
make
sure
that
their
their
interests
were
represented
in
the
resolution
and
I.
Think
that's.
The
reason
to
get
out
there
earlier
is
to
have
a
larger
influence
on
the
outcome
and
a
larger
return
for
your
involvement.
Thank.
L
H
So,
to
avoid
the
issues
in
in
Michigan
state
law,
we
would
have
to
file
it
in
federal
court.
There
is
a
petition
right
now
to
create
a
consolidated
or
multi
district
litigation.
We
don't
know
how
that's
gonna
play
out.
There's
gonna
be
a
hearing
on
that
in
November
and
st.
Louis
I.
Don't
think
it's
a
slam
dunk
to
get
the
case
of
consolidated,
because
the
cases
are
all
very
different,
they're,
multiple
defendants
claims
of
different
theories.
So
yes,
if
there
is
an
MDL
created,
a
multidistrict
litigation,
your
case
would
undoubtedly
be
included
in
it.
H
I
think
I.
Can
praise
say
that,
with
with
pretty
much
certainty,
in
which
case
you
know
what
that
means
is
either
you
will
end
up
in
the
leadership
of
that
case
or
not.
I.
Think
the
fact
that
we
have
such
a
big
involvement
means
that
we
would
be
in
a
decent
position
to
have
a
leadership
role
and
then
you're
right.
H
But
again
I
don't
want
to
talk
about.
Assuming
that
you
know,
there's
some
gravy
train
here
and
that
that
resolution
is
certain.
We
think
that
facts
are
really
bad
for
the
drug
companies
and
that
conduct
is
egregious
and
that
they
violate
the
law
and
that
there
is
now
enough
momentum
on
this
issue
that
there
will
be
judgments
or
settlements.
But
of
course,
I
want
to
be
clear
that
there's
no
Garrett
to
give
any
of
that
we're
making
our
our
best
assessment
and-
and
we
think
it's
worthwhile
litigation
and
listen.
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The
folks
anxiety
motion
carries
under
daily
and
mosquito
control
manager,
the
MD
to
scrap
tire
kind,
support
emotional
support,
main
discussion,
seeing
none
all
in
favor.
I
am
all
closed
since
I
was
a
carrier
under
K
via
the
be
cats
directory
utilization
of
federal
transportation,
planning
funds,
the
PL
and
assist
management
fun.
So.
C
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I
M
C
I
Has
what
we
did
it?
We
actually
created
a
committee
of
different
departments
in
the
county
together
to
determine
the
needs
of
what
we
needed
for
a
new
phone
system.
So
what
we
determined
through
the
committee
finance,
the
purchasing
and
Chris
apparently
was
involved
in
Ryan
Mane's
and
conferring
with
other
departments
there's
the
mass
notification
system
that
we're
going
to
put
in
place
so
that
there's
an
incident
to
notify
everyone
in
the
county
as
part
of
the
system
and
then
through
the
project.
I
G
M
C
C
E
E
I
You
know
it
is,
as
we
upgrade
and
change
out
hardware,
it
could
last
10
15
years
we
have
within
our
agreement
five
years
software
assurance,
so
we
can
just
continually
upgrade
and
make
changes
and
continue
writing
the
same
system.
When
we
get
a
new
hardware
system,
we
could
get.
You
know,
put
it
on
the
new
hardware
system.
So
if
my
towel
girl
with
us
as
we
grow
and
change
as
well.
C
I
C
B
I
The
caller
ID
automatically
come
up,
so
what
we
call
you,
someone
here
calls
you
it'll
say
depending
on
what
trunk
it
goes
out,
we
can
say
who
you
know:
Bay,
County
or
so
forth.
Those
correct.
Now
in
what
you
call
outside.
We
don't
know
it's
you
so
that
will
all
be
the
inbound
and
outbound
caller
Ids
will
be
in
there
as
well.
A
A
Missile
ad
any
my
anime,
a
mystery:
okay
announcements,
Tuesday
October,
10th,
2017,
yeah
I,
was
going
to
say
yeah
date,
so.