►
From YouTube: 2021 Lake Huron Nearshore Fisheries Workshop
Description
No description was provided for this meeting.
If this is YOUR meeting, an easy way to fix this is to add a description to your video, wherever mtngs.io found it (probably YouTube).
A
All
right,
well,
it's
six
o'clock,
and
so
I
promise
to
get
started
promptly
and
we're
gonna
get
started
with
a
great
evening
of
talking
lake
huron
fishery
so
good
evening
and
welcome
to
our
annual
spring
2021
lake
huron
fisheries
workshop
series.
A
Tonight
we
take
a
focus
to
the
our
near
shore,
fisheries,
we'll
be
covering
some
great
fisheries
of
lake
huron
along
our
coastline
from
the
latino
island
area,
fisheries,
to
the
saint
mary's
river,
to
the
saginaw
bay,
perch
and
walleye
fisheries,
that
we
all
love
and
enjoy
we'll
be
talking
some
cisco
restoration
opportunities
in
lake
huron,
as
well
as
some
cormorant
management
updates
and
end
our
evening
with
some
conversations
with
our
dnr
fisheries
managers
covering
lake
huron.
A
So
this
is
a
part
of
an
educational
series.
We
michigan
sea
grant
and
michigan
state
university
extension
host
with
our
partners
each
spring.
So
this
is
the
second
of
of
a
couple
of
workshops.
Last
week
we
had
a
session
focused
on
the
open
water
fisheries,
and
so,
if
you
want
to
check
that
out,
we'll
drop
a
link
to
the
recording
for
that
session.
A
In
the
chat
of
interest,
you
might
want
to
check
out
the
lake
huron
michigan
predator
diet
study
as
an
opportunity
for
you,
as
anglers
to
contribute,
contribute
as
community
scientists
to
that
important
study,
and
if,
after
tonight,
you
haven't
had
enough
talk
about
our
lake
huron
fisheries,
we're
going
to
collaborate
with
the
michigan
department
of
natural
resources
in
their
dnr
conversation
and
coffee
next
thursday
may
6
from
6
to
7
and
I'd
encourage
you
all
to
join.
It's
a
great
opportunity
to
continue
this
conversation
so
again.
A
Tonight
our
focus
is
on
the
near
shore
fisheries,
and
I
always
like
to
start
these
workshops
with
thanks
and
appreciation
to
all
the
partners
that
collaborate
and
pulling
these
lake
huron
fisheries
workshops
together.
It's
truly
a
team
effort.
We
have
a
great
wealth
of
wisdom
from
our
research
and
management
agencies
and
universities,
contributing
including
the
michigan
department
of
natural
resources,
fisheries,
the
usgs
great
lakes,
science
center,
who
contributed
to
last
week's
talks.
A
The
u.s
fish
and
wildlife
service,
usda
wildlife
services,
the
eagle
office
of
the
great
lakes
and
the
saginaw
bay
reef
partnership,
among
many
others-
and
we
couldn't
do
this
workshop-
do
these
workshops
without
our
community,
important
community
partners
and
and
fishing
organizations
who
have
supported
these
workshops
over
the
years,
help
us
to
think
about
what
to
bring
out
to
the
communities
in
these
workshops
and
certainly
help
to
support
by
promoting
and
getting
folks
to
attend
these
workshops,
and
I
need
to
draw
attention
to
the
michigan
department
of
natural
resources,
lake
huron,
citizen
fishery
advisory
committee
on
the
the
the
webinar
this
evening
with
us
is
frank
crist
from
the
hammond
bay
area
anglers.
A
Who
is
the
chair
of
this
committee
and
he's
joining
us
tonight,
because
that
committee,
those
advisors,
are
also
michigan
sea
grant
advisors.
They
work
with
with
us
throughout
the
year
to
really
think
about.
How
do
we
make
the
best
use
of
these
workshops
and
bring
the
great
information
they
talk
about
all
year,
long
out
to
you
through
these
webinars,
which
are
normally
hosted
in
person,
but
given
the
times
where
we're
hosting
this
workshop
virtually
so
this?
A
This
committee,
the
conversation
tonight,
your
questions,
your
input
are
being
gathered
by
frank
and
myself
and
we're
excited
to
share
this
conversation
tonight
with
with
that
advisory
committee
and
then
finally,
I
want
to.
I
want
to
appreciate
my
own
sea
grant
michigan
sea
grant
team,
so
I'm
brandon
schroeder
I
serve
as
an
extension
educator
out
of
northeast
michigan
and
northern
lake
huron,
and
I'm
happy
that
I'm
proud
to
be
a
facilitator
tonight
and
hoping
to
keep
us
on
task
and
and
out
on
time.
A
We
have
an
action-packed
agenda,
but
I
also
want
to
introduce
my
other
lake
huron
extension
colleagues.
Megan
goss
from
the
saginaw
bay
region
elliot
nelson
from
the
eastern
upper
peninsula,
who
are
helping
to
facilitate
tonight
in
the
background,
as
well
as
mary
bowling
who's,
an
extension
educator
in
southeast
michigan,
covering
some
of
the
southern
lake
huron
communities
and,
of
course,
our
fantastic
communication
team,
including
cindy
hudson,
in
the
background
helping
to
make
sure.
A
Hopefully
this
all
goes
seamlessly
tonight.
So
a
little
bit
about
michigan
sea
grant.
Our
role
is
is
we're
non-regulatory
agency.
Our
role
is
really
to
promote
great
lakes,
science
and
research
and
think
about
how
to
bring
that
science
and
research
out
in
useful
ways
to
our
coastal
communities
through
education
and
outreach,
we're
a
federal
program
of
noaa,
the
national
oceanic
and
atmospheric
administration,
but
in
michigan
we're
a
partnership
between
michigan
state
university
and
the
university
of
michigan,
and
so
a
lot
of
the
educational
programs.
A
We
also
aside
from
educational
workshops,
like
this,
provide
a
wealth
of
educational
materials
check
out
our
website.
We
just
re-released
a
fourth
edition
of
the
life
of
the
lakes,
the
guide
to
the
great
lakes
fishery,
if
you're
interested
in
the
salmonid
family
there's
a
neat
identification
guide
that
you
might
be
interested
in
checking
out
all
available
on
our
website
and
we'll
be
posting
some
of
those
links
in
the
chat
as
well,
so
as
an
educational
program
and
because
we
receive
federal
funding.
A
I
wanted
to
share
this
this,
this
anti-discrimination
acknowledgement
and
we
are
really
required,
but
we
also
make
a
commitment
to
ensure
that
all
of
our
programs
and
resources
are
available
and
accessible
to
anyone
and
everyone
who
who
might
be
interested
or
value
or
benefit
from
those
resources
without
discrimination,
so
appreciate
all
of
your
all
of
our
partners
and
your
help
to
make
sure
that
our
resources
are
are
shared
as
widely
as
folks
would
like
to
to
enjoy
them.
A
So
with
that,
I
appreciate
everybody
taking
the
evening
to
talk
lake
huron
fisheries
and
without
further
ado,
I'm
going
to
jump
us
into
our
program.
We
have
some
amazing
near
shore,
fisheries
in
lake
huron,
so
we
did
a
three-sided
coin
toss
to
see
where
we
should
start
tonight
and
where
we,
the
winner
of
that
coin,
toss
was
the
latino
island
area,
and
so
I
am
going
to
introduce
dave
fielder,
who
is
a
researcher
with
michigan
department
of
natural
resources
who
will
be
providing
that
update
for
us
this
evening?.
B
A
B
Most
people
are
familiar
with
where
the
relational
islands
are
it's
an
archipelago
along
the
north
shore
of
lake
huron,
part
of
the
upper
peninsula,
about
26
some
islands,
the
channels
and
embayments
form
some
very
pristine
cool
water
habitat.
B
Some
of
the
smaller
uninhabited
islands
have
also
become
important
nesting
sites
for
double-crusted
cormorants
that
migrate
to
the
great
lakes
for
nesting
each
year.
And,
of
course,
cormorants
are
a
piscivirous
bird
and
we've
long
been
tracking
that
complicated
relationship
between
their
predation
and
the
effects
on
yellow
perch
and
the
fishery.
B
Our
information
tonight
comes
from
a
variety
of
sources.
We
have
an
annual
fish
community
assessment
netting
survey
that
we
perform
with
three
key
index
stations
in
relational
islands.
We've
been
doing
that
every
year
since
1969
the
first
week
of
october.
We
even
use
the
same
kind
of
gear.
So
if
we
see
changes
in
the
catch
that
indicates
a
change
in
the
fish
community,
then
we
have
a
creel
survey
which
has
been
done
periodically
and
then
every
year
since
the
year
2000,
that's
where
anglers
are
interviewed
at
the
end
of
a
fishing
trip.
B
Lastly,
is
that
the
cormorant
monitoring,
which
is
mainly
in
the
form
of
nest,
counts
that
has
been
performed
by
different
organizations
over
the
years,
but
over
about
the
last
15
or
18
years,
it's
been
performed
by
our
partners
at
usda,
aphis
wildlife
services.
B
B
B
Then
you
can
see
where
management
was
begun
really
in
2004
in
the
forms
of
calling
and
nest
egg
oiling
to
bring
their
numbers
down
and
it
worked.
It
brought
their
numbers
down
and
we
were
tracking
and
monitoring
what
response
is
in
the
fish
community,
and
then
there
was
a
lawsuit
against
the
u.s
fish
and
wildlife
service.
It
resulted
in
a
suspension
of
management
there
in
2016.
B
numbers
of
nesting,
cormorants
started
to
come
back
up
again.
We
were
able
to
secure
permission
to
do
some
partial
management
at
a
reduced
level
and
that
leveled
off
their
numbers,
but
at
something
about
a
higher
level.
In.
B
2020
now
this
is
the
same
curve.
I
just
showed
you
here
for
cormorants,
so
to
help
you
visualize
the
the
where
we
are
in
terms
of
trends
with
other
indices.
In
this
case,
this
is
krill
survey,
information
with
the
angler
harvest
on
this
axis
here
in
the
blue
line,
and
then
the
angular
catch
rate
on
the
red
line
for
this
axis
over
here
now.
B
The
catch
rate
again
is
the
number
of
yellow
perch
per
hour
being
harvested,
so
you
can
think
of
it
as
sort
of
an
expression
of
quality
of
fishing,
the
and
then
of
course,
harvest
is
simply
the
numbers
being
harvested,
and
you
can
see
where
we
are
today
relative
to
the
the
hot,
much
higher
levels
back
in
the
1980s
and
early
90s,
the
fishery
really
bottomed
out
during
this
period
of
which
was
the
period
of
peak
cormorant
abundance.
B
This
blue
area
arrow
indicates
when
cormorant
management
began
and
we
can
see
the
recovery,
at
least
to
the
catchery
and
some
improvement
in
harvest
when
you
have
a
higher
catch
rate
and
lower
harvest.
That
tells
us
overall
effort
is
low,
but
what's
important
is
what's
going
on
recently,
as
cormorant
numbers
have
come
back
up,
our
harvest
has
stayed
low
and
the
angular
catch
rate
has
bounced
around
some,
but
most
recently
it's
backed
down
again.
B
This
is
the
average
yellow
perch
cash
per
unit
effort
in
our
survey
nets.
This
is
that
long
term,
time
series
that
goes
back
to
1969
that
I
mentioned,
and
we
can
see
how
their
numbers
were
lower
during
the
cormorant
years
as
their
numbers
came
down,
the
cormorants
we
saw
some
improvement
in
abundance.
More
recently,
we
saw
that
decline.
B
If
we
look
at
just
our
hassle
station,
this
is
the
longest
time
series
for
the
most
consistently
surveyed
station.
We
see
that
the
number
there
is
bottom
out
almost
zero,
very
troubling.
We
haven't
seen
that
for
quite
a
while.
B
This
is
the
average
age
of
yellow
perch
and
that's
a
convenient
indicator,
because
when
mortality
rates
are
high,
basically
all
that's
left
was
the
very
youngest
perch
coming
into
the
system.
We
see
that
reflected
here.
We
predicted
that
as
cormorant
numbers
came
down
there,
the
average
age
would
we
build
up
to
a
higher
level
and
it
did
now
what
we
see
over
the
last
two
years.
It
has
come
way
back
down
again
consistent
with
the
idea
that
they
are
enduring
a
lot
of
mortality.
B
This
is
the
average
length
at
age
three
of
males
and
females
combined
using
this
as
a
indicator
of
abundance,
so
when
they
are
at
the
right
capacity
for
the
available
habitat
and
break
base,
you'll
see
that
their
average
rate
is
hug
hung
right
around
the
state
average
as
their
numbers
as
perch
numbers
went
down.
As
cormorant
numbers
went
up,
the
perch
growth
rate
went
way
up,
so
the
few
perch
that
were
surviving
were
growing
very
fast.
B
We
predicted
that
as
cormorant
numbers
came
down
and
mortality
dropped,
that
their
growth
rate
would
also
decline,
reflecting
an
increase
in
abundance,
and
that's
what
it's
done
most
recently
now
here
in
this
case.
Most
recently,
it's
come
back
down,
so
we're
getting
some
mixed
messages
and
some
of
this
data,
but
you
can
see
that
it's
been
bouncing
around
some.
These
error
bars
up
and
down,
or
simply
the
confidence
intervals
around
the
the
average
value
for
the
length
that
age
for
the
yellow,
perch.
B
This
is
the
total
annual
mortality
rate
you
can
be.
You
can
think
of
this
as
the
percentage
of
perch
that
are
dying
every
year
as
a
result
of
both
harvest,
but
also
natural
mortality
sources,
and
that
would
certainly
include
predation
by
predator-like
cormorants.
We
can
see
how,
generally
it
was
higher
in
the
presence
of
of
cormorants.
This
lower
period
here
was
actually
an
artifact
of
the
estimation
method.
This
is
done
with
catch
curves,
and
so
it
requires
a
an
age
distribution
that
reflects
the
mortality
rate.
B
But
if
mortality
rates
are
great
enough
across
all
ages,
it
will
flatten
that
curve.
I
think
that's
what
was
going
on
here,
but
we
can
see
that
mortality
rates
have
been
as
high
as
90
percent
in
the
presence
of
abundant
cormorants
and
we
predicted
that
that
would
come
down
as
cormac
numbers
came
down
and
did
more
recently,
it's
been
climbing
back
up
now,
lately,
most
lately,
it's
low
again,
but
again
that
could
be
the
flattening
of
that
catch
curve
as
a
result
of
higher
predation
rates.
B
Now,
an
alternative
explanation
to
permanent
effects
is
simply
that
there's
less
reproduction
or
recruitment
of
yellow
perch.
So
we
want
to
track
that
and
we
do
that
by
looking
at
the
average
cash
per
unit
effort
in
our
survey
nets
of
age,
two
yellow
perch
and
that's
what
these
these
blue
bars
are
here
again
the
confidence
intervals
for
the
error
bars.
When
we
look
at
the
most
recent
level
of
2020,
we
can
see
that
there's
a
year
class
in
there
that's
consistent
with
other
year
classes,
so
perks
are
reproducing
we
are
getting
recruitment.
B
Mortality
look
now
at
northern
pike.
Pike
have
been
important
in
the
glacial
islands
for
a
long
time,
especially
recently,
their
numbers
have
really
increased.
As
corporate
numbers
came
down.
This
has
become
an
important
feature
of
the
recreational
fishery
in
the
national
islands.
Most
recently.
C
B
Their
numbers
are
also
coming
back
down
consistent
with
the
idea
that
there
may
be
increased,
ongoing
predation
effects
from
cormorants.
B
This
could
also
reflect
some
declining
water
levels,
but,
given
that
we're
looking
here
at
2020
2019,
I
think
this
is
still
kind
of
a
high
water
era
such
that.
I
think
that
we
can't
hang
that
just
on
water
level
changes
brown,
bowl
heads
are
abundant
in
the
national
islands,
and
so
they
serve
as
yet
one
more
species
to
look
at.
We
can
see
how
they
are
very
low
abundance
when
cormorants
were
at
their
peak,
they
increased
in
abundance.
B
As
cormorants
came
down
more
recently,
they've
come
down,
they
went
up,
but
now
they're
back
down
again,
so
we
see
some
fluctuation
there
that
suggests
that
at
least
most
recently
they're
at
a
lower
level.
B
B
So
here
are
some
conclusions
generally,
the
yellow,
perch
and
other
notable
species
are
trending
and
key
indicators
consistent
with
excessive
predation
losses
to
a
predator,
consistent
with
past
cormorant
effects.
Yellow
perch
abundance
is
now
toward
the
greatest
state.
Reflecting
a
collapse.
Cormorants
we
estimate,
are
consuming
2
million
yellow
perch
per
year
in
2020.
B
C
B
Are
compromised
and
have
lost
ground
from
their
high
abundance
in
recent
years,
brown
bowl
heads
are
compromised
and
lost
ground
as
well.
Smallmouth
bass
appear
to
be
holding
their
own
and
remain
in
good
quantity,
but
they
are
also
on
a
trajectory
towards
lower
abundance.
So
well,
we
don't
nearly
have
the
number
of
cormorants
that
we
did
at
one
time.
They
are
at
a
level
that
suggests
that
they're
still
having
a
substantial
effect
on
these
key
fish
species
in
the
fish
community.
A
Thanks
all
right:
well,
thanks
dave,
I'm
going
to
move
us
along
there's
some
additional
questions
coming
in
that
we
can
respond
to
and
type
or
get
back
to
at
the
end
of
the
meeting.
For
now,
I'm
going
to
give
you
a
virtual
round
of
applause
and
move
us
on
we're
going
to
move
north
to
the
saint
mary's
river,
and
so
neil
godbey,
also
with
the
department
of
natural
resources.
A
Fisheries
division
works
with
the
saint
mary's
river
fisheries
task
group
with
the
great
lakes
fishery
commission
and
is
agreed
to
provide
a
really
neat
update
for
us
this
evening.
So
thank
you.
Neil.
D
Good
evening,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
present
the
saint
mary's
river
fisheries
task
group
update
today.
There's
a
lot
going
on
in
the
st
mary's
river,
and
this
will
be
a
brief
overview
of
some
of
the
issues
in
the
area
as
well
as
ongoing
and
planned
projects
by
the
task
group
and
its
member
agencies.
D
In
recognition
of
the
many
agencies
of
jurisdiction
over
the
river
or
parts
thereof,
the
group
is
composed
of
representatives
from
u.s
and
canadian
federal
agencies,
state
and
provincial
agencies
and
tribal
and
first
nation
resource
agencies.
Additionally,
universities
and
colleges
in
the
area
serve
as
resource
members
in
the
group.
D
D
D
D
D
Here
are
a
few
more
pictures
showing
ditty
mo
in
the
river
and
its
extensive
extracellular
stock
production.
These
stocks
can
create
two
to
three
foot.
Long
mats
on
the
left
is
a
picture
of
didimo
blooming
around
a
drift
net
on
the
right
is
an
lssu
student
holding
some
near
the
little
rapids
bridge
and
there's
a
tub
of
it
at
the
top.
D
D
D
The
short-term
monitoring
found
an
increase
in
sensitive
macroinvertebrate
taxa,
an
increase
in
cool
water,
lithophilic
fish
species,
an
increase
in
game
fish
and
an
increase
in
recreational
fishing
use
which
was
high
longer
term.
Monitoring
of
the
ecological
response
to
the
restoration
project
is
proposed.
We
are
currently
seeking
funding
to
accomplish
that
monitoring.
D
Field
collections
so
far
in
the
study
have
found
that
lake
sturgeon,
spawning
and
larval
drift
are
occurring
in
the
rapids
area
and
that
larval
drift
is
dominated
by
rainbow
smelt.
There's
evidence
of
core
going
and
spawning
and
transport
a
full
field
season
is
planned
for
2021
modeling
of
hydrology
and
larval
drift
is
in
process.
D
D
Nation,
another
survey,
effort
by
task
group
members,
includes
aquatic
invasive
species,
early
detection
and
monitoring.
This
survey
targets
juvenile
and
adult
fish
new
to
the
great
lakes.
It
is
an
annual
survey
initiated
in
2013
by
the
u.s
fish
and
wildlife
service
partners
include
the
ontario
ministry,
natural
resources
and
forestry
and
the
sioux
tribe.
D
D
D
D
D
D
Previous
surveys
have
shown
that
the
river
receives
a
substantial
amount
of
fishing
effort
about
35
percent
or
more
compared
to
all
the
fishing
effort
in
michigan
waters
of
lake
huron.
This
is
an
expensive
survey,
as
it
requires
flights
for
fishing
pressure
counts
and
a
minimum
of
four
creel
clerks.
Two
on
the
michigan
side,
two
on
the
ontario
side.
D
D
A
Well,
thank
you.
Neil
much
appreciate
the
time
you
put
into
into
compiling
that
overview
and
sharing
with
us
this
evening.
So
a
virtual
round
of
applause
for
everyone
tonight
and
I
will
say
goodbye
to
you
and
reintroduce
dave
fielder
to
move
us
down
into
the
saginaw
bay
region
to
talk
walleye
and
yellow
perch,
so
dave
welcome
back.
B
B
B
Then
there's
a
creel
survey,
of
course,
where
we
interview
anglers
at
the
end
of
their
fishing
trip
to
find
out
what
they
caught,
how
long
they
fished,
and
that
includes
an
aerial
flight
that
will
count
boats
and
all
that
information
goes
together
to
allow
us
to
make
estimates
of
how
many
of
each
species
is
harvested
and
what
the
catch
rate
is
and
the
amount
of
fishing
effort,
as
well
all
important
statistics
there's
also
reporting
from
the
commercial
fishery
and
that's
especially
relevant
for
yellow
perch,
and
then
we
have
a
number
of
computer
models
that
allows
us
to
put
this
all
together
and
make
estimates
of
how
many
walleye
we
have,
and
it's
really
this
information
collectively
that
allows
us
to
know.
B
This
is
the
trolling
catch
rate
of
age,
zero,
walleye,
now
age,
zero
are
like
the
yen
of
year.
It's
laws
that
hatched
that
spring
or
back
when
we
were
stocking
that
may
have
survived
from
stocking.
B
This
is
about
probably
a
four
inch
fish,
maybe
depending
on
the
year
it
cut
in
the
trolls
and
on
the
y-axis
on
the
left.
So
this
is
the
average
number
per
10
minutes
of
towing.
B
You
can
see
a
big
change
in
the
amount
of
reproductive
success
beginning
about
2003.,
and
we
attribute
that
to
the
decline
of
alewives
in
lake
huron
lives
began
to
become
scarce
and
then
finally
disappeared
about
that
time,
and
it
was
really
their
absence.
It
allowed
walleye
to
reproduce
so
well.
The
percentage
number
on
top
of
each
bar
is
a
hatchery
fish
contribution
from
what
we
were
stocking
and
you
can
see
that
that
number
became
very
low
starting
in
2003,
meaning
that
almost
all
these
are
wild
fish.
B
B
This
is
really
our
first
look
at
your
class
strength
if
you
will-
and
that
suggests
that
it's
less
in
2020,
but
we've
been
forecasting
that
for
some
time,
because
the
walleye
population
has
been
an
all-time
high,
at
least
for
modern
years
and
the
nature
of
reproductive
success
for
walleye
and
yellow
perch
as
well
potentially,
is
that
at
high
numbers
they
actually
are
going
to
have
less
recruitment
sort
of
a
compensating
mechanism.
That's
built
into
a
lot
of
fish
populations.
B
Now
this
is
your
class
strength
at
age,
two
as
estimated
by
one
of
our
computer
models,
our
statistical
catch
and
age
model.
So
this
is
an
actual
estimate.
How
many
two-year-olds
are
out
there
by
your
class,
and
we
can
see
that
we've
had
a
number
of
strong
year
classes
over
the
last
three
years,
but
it
is
coming
down
consistent
with
what
we've
been
expecting,
but
on
the
whole,
these
have
been
driving
higher
numbers
of
walleye
in
saginaw
bay.
B
One
way
we
can
gauge
the
abundance
of
walleye
in
the
bay
and
where
we're
at
relative
to
the
available
pre-base
and
the
habitat
kind
of
collectively,
the
carrying
capacity
of
the
bay.
If
you
will,
is
to
look
at
the
growth
rate
of
walleye
and
in
this
case
we're
using
age
three
as
a
convenient
indicator,
and
we
have
both
females
males
combined.
B
For
the
sake
of
this
graphic,
you
can
see
back
before
about
2005
or
six,
that
the
the
mean
length
in
millimeters
was
much
higher
than
the
state
average
or
what
our
target
level
had
been
and
that's
consistent
with
meaning
that
was
very
few
walleyes
relative
to
the
available
prey
base
and
habitat.
So
they
simply
grew
fast.
B
We
predicted
that,
as
their
numbers
came
up,
their
growth
rate
would
go
down
and
we
established
a
recovery
zone.
We
said
that
once
we
had
three
out
of
five
years
in
that
zone,
we've
reached
our
recovery
targets,
and
that
happened
for
the
first
time
there
in
2009.
Now,
since
then,
it's
been
creeping
back
up
some,
but
it's
staying
right
within
that
zone.
So
we're
still
within
our
range
of
of
recovery
and
to
be
clear,
it's
not
that
we
were
actually
wanting
slower,
growing
walleye.
B
This
is
trawling
again,
and
this
is
one
of
our
index,
our
indices
of
abundance
for
prey
fish,
and
this
is
not
numbers
of
fish,
but
actually
biomass
in
terms
of
kilograms
per
10
minute
toe
in
the
trolling,
and
you
can
see
for
a
long
time
how
that's
been
coming
down
as
wall
abundance
has
been
building
and
were
concerned
at
some
points
that
it
was
getting
so
low.
B
What
we've
been
wanting
to
see
is
this
would
turn
the
corner
and
come
back
up,
and
we
see
that
happening
here
in
2020.,
so
this
is
consistent
with
the
idea
that
maybe
walleye
densities
are
coming
down
some,
although
this
big
increase
in
2020
is
really
just
driven
by
a
lot
of
age,
zero,
weight,
perch,
but
nevertheless
that
constitutes
some
forage.
These
are
the
species
down
here
that
make
up
this
particular
index.
B
B
We
don't
have
all
the
information
yet
for
the
winter
fishery
in
2021.
This
is
based
on
fishing
units,
so
the
2020
would
actually
be
to
the
march
of
this
year,
and
so
I
had
to
extrapolate
that
down.
So
that's
a
little
bit
of
an
estimate
there
and
we'll
update
that
when
we
actually
get
the
cruel
survey
reporting,
but
on
the
whole
it
appears
that
the
the
amount
of
walleye
harvest
has
come
down
in
2020
from
some
otherwise
very
high
numbers.
B
B
Now
this
is
also
some
cruel
survey
information.
This
is
the
harvest
rate,
so
on
the
y-axis
here
this
is
the
number
of
walleye
per
hour
being
reported
harvested
by
anglers
and
it's
broken
out
again
by
the
open
water
fishery.
That's
the
the
blue
bar
and
then
the
red
bar
is
the
winter
fishery
and
then
the
total
combined
in
the
effort
is
this
green
value.
B
We
saw
that
come
back
down,
so
this
is
really
a
measure,
if
you
will
of
of
how
fast
you're
catching
walleyes
and
it
can
be
thought
of
as
something
of
an
index
of
the
quality
of
the
fishery,
but
it's
very
much
attuned
to
the
availability
or
the
abundance
of
fish.
So
if
they
have
been
coming
down
some,
then
we
would
expect
this
to
decline
as
it
appears
to
have
in
2020.
B
Now
this
is
the
amount
of
effort
expressed
in
angler
hours,
so
this
is
not
catch.
This
is
how
many
hours
collectively
fishermen
are
exerting
on
the
bay
and
again
it's
broken
out
between
open
water,
winter
and
charter,
and
we
can
see
that
this
has
been
the
lowest
level
in
2020
that
we
have
measured
since
we've
had
krill
surveys
taking
place
since
1986
curious.
B
That
effort
would
be
so
low
when
we're
enjoying
such
good
walleye
fishing,
but
we
believe
that
this
is
probably
tied
heavily
to
the
availability
of
yellow
perch,
which
are
still
largely
depressed
in
saginaw
bay
in
terms
of
their
overall
numbers.
So
that
may
account
for
why
this
is
so
low.
But
this
is
also
a
phenomenon
that
we
see
playing
out
across
the
state
really
around
the
country
that
outdoor
recreation
in
terms
of
fishing
and
hunting
generally,
it's
been
getting
less
and
less
participation,
so
this
is
not
necessarily
unique
to
saigon
bay.
B
This
is
an
estimate
of
all
the
walleyes
out
there
in
saginaw
bay,
age,
two
and
older.
This
is
another
product
of
our
statistical
catch
at
age
model.
This
is
again
based
on
fishing
years,
so
this
is
up
through
the
2019
year,
which
would
reflect
data
through
march
of
2020.
So
this
is
about
a
year
old.
It
will
be
updated
very
soon
and
we
I'm
largely
expecting
that
it
will
come
down
some.
You
can
see
that
we're
at
almost
record
abundance.
B
The
dashed
line
on
either
side
of
this
bar
is
simply
the
confidence
interval.
If
you
will
about
the
our
estimate,
which
is
the
black
line
in
the
middle
and
we
had
almost
2
million
new
recruits
in
2019
fishing
year
now.
This
is
the
same
information.
I
just
showed
you
the
the
blue
line,
age,
2
and
older,
but
I
broke
out
just
age
four
and
older
and
that's
the
line
underneath
it
and
the
difference
between
the
two
lines
are
ages
two
and
three-year-old
walleye.
So
we
have
a
lot
of
young
walleye
in
saginaw
bay.
B
This
is
a
reflection
of
all
the
strong
recruitment
that
we've
experienced
and
with
the
liberalized
harvest
regulations
since
2015
we've
been
looking
to
dampen
and
flatten
that
curve.
Some,
it's
not
very
evident,
looking
at
age
two
and
up,
but
when
you
look
at
age
four
and
older,
it
does
appear
that
that
was
somewhat
flattened
out,
although
by
the
2019
fishing
year
it
did
increase
and
that's
simply
all
these
young
walleyes
ages,
twos
and
threes,
beginning
to
accumulate.
B
This
is
a
measure
of
where
we
are
in
terms
of
sustainability
of
the
recreational
fishery.
This
is
a
percent
of
unfished
spawning
stock
biomass.
So
this
is
really
just
biomass
of
females.
If
you
will
and
we're
relating
it
to
what
proportion
we
are.
If
we
had
no
fishing
effort
whatsoever,
we
can
estimate
what
that
is
and
then
just
calculate
that
proportion.
B
We
always
want
to
be
able,
above
that,
horizontal
red
line
there,
and
we
can
see
that
in
our
last
estimate
of
2019
that
it
went
way
up
and
that's
those
recent
strong
year
classes
becoming
sexually
mature.
So
those
females
that
are
recruiting
to
the
population
really
drove
that
up.
So
we're
well
north
of
that
line,
meaning
that,
at
least
in
terms
of
this
index
of
sustainability,
we're
in
good
shape.
B
This
is
an
examination
of
the
total
mortality
rate
and
you
can
think
of
this
as
the
percentage
of
walleyes
being
removed
from
the
population
by
all
forms,
not
just
harvest,
but
natural
mortality
sources
also-
and
we
have
really
two
measures
here-
we
have
that,
based
on
our
annual
jaw
tagging,
that's
the
red
line
and
then
also
estimated
by
our
catching
age
model.
That's
the
blue
line
and
these
error
bars
up
and
down
just
show
us
the
confidence
interval
that
we
believe
the
true
value
would
be
somewhere
in
that
range.
B
The
we
don't
have
the
estimate
from
the
catch-and-age
model
for
the
most
recent
years
that
only
that
always
runs
a
year
behind,
but
we
can
see
how
the
two
estimates-
these
are
independent
estimates
of
the
same
thing
compare,
and
the
important
thing
is
that
it
says
that
total
annual
mortality
is
somewhere
just
a
little
less
than
50
percent
down
to
maybe
about
32
percent
either.
One
of
those
are
sustainable
for
a
healthy
wildlife
population.
So
this
is
another
measure
of
sustainability
and
it
suggests
that
at
the
moment
we're
okay.
B
Now
this
is
exploitation
rate
again
measured,
two
different
ways:
the
top
one
is
from
our
jaw:
tagging
tape
returns
and
the
the
bottom
value
is
from
our
catch
and
age
model,
and
while
the
two
estimates
differ
slightly,
they
are
actually
pretty
similar
and
it
suggests
to
us
that
the
true
exploitation
rate,
which
again
is
like
the
proportion
of
walleyes
being
harvested
from
the
population,
is
probably
less
than
13.
B
This
is
shifting
now
to
yellow
perch
and
back
to
the
trolling
information.
This
is
the
catch
rate
of
young
and
older,
yellow
perch
in
10
minute
toes,
so
the
the
yellow
bar
is
the
age
zero
or
the
young
of
years.
We
sometimes
call
it
and
the
purple
bar
is
age,
one
in
older,
yellow,
perch
and
so
for
a
long
time
there
through
the
70s
and
80s
and
early
90s.
We
had
both
as
you
would
expect,
because
it's
after
all,
it's
the
the
purple
part
of
the
bar
that
anglers
and
commercial
fishers
are
interested
in.
B
But
you
got
to
have
some
of
those
yellow
bars
to
represent
the
younger
fish
coming
up
and
we
had
a
roll
in
both
in
the
90s.
That
was
about
the
time
that
dry
seated
muscles
like
zebra
mussels,
were
colonizing,
but
just
like
with
walleye
when
alewives
disappeared
from
the
system.
The
reproductive
success
of
yellow
perch
exploded
and
it
has
been
very
high
ever
since.
So
that's
good
we're
getting
lots
and
lots
of
yellow
perch
reproduction,
but
we're
not
seeing
very
much
in
terms
of
those
yearling
and
older
perch.
B
B
B
So
that's
part
of
the
motivation
for
having
the
liberalized
harvest
regulations
around
walleye
in
recent
years
was
that
if
maybe
the
walleye
numbers
could
come
down
that
survival
of
young
perch
could
go
up,
because
we
know
that
while
I
feed
heavily
on
these
young
yellow
perch,
but
so
do
other
predators,
we
see
them
in
the
in
the
stomach
contents
of
just
about
all
the
predators
that
we
examine.
So
it's
not
only
walleye,
but
walleye
are
probably
the
most
abundant
top
predator
out
there
in
the
bay.
B
Survey,
statistics
now
specific
to
yellow
perch
and
the
the
bluish,
or
maybe
that's
a
teal
color
there.
That's
the
catch
per
unit
effort,
the
number
of
of
yellow
perch
per
hour
on
the
right-hand
y-axis
and
the
green
is
the
actual
numbers
being
harvested
on
the
left
y
axis
and
we
can
see
how
that
has
been
trending
down
for
some
time.
Occasionally
the
catch
rate
will
improve,
but
the
overall
harvest
numbers
are
at
very
low
levels
when
you
compare
them
to
where
it
had
been
in
the
past.
B
Now
again,
this
information
is
about
a
year
old
and
we
are
hearing
reports
of
much
improved
yield
of
perch
fishing
this
spring.
So
we're
hopeful
that
if,
in
fact,
wally
numbers
have
come
down
the
way,
we
suspect
that
maybe
we're
seeing
a
response
in
the
yellow,
perch
population
and
fishery.
We
can't
tell
just
yet
from
this
data,
but
these
are
the
kinds
of
measurements
that
we're
going
to
be
looking
for
to
see
if
there
is
in
fact
some
improvement.
B
This
is
the
growth
rate
of
yellow
perch,
again
we're
using
age
3
as
an
indicator.
You
can
see
where
they
are
relative
to
the
state
average,
so
they're
growing,
very
fast
and
that's
the
silver
lining
to
their
low
abundance
is
that
we
see
some
really
nice
big,
yellow
perch
out
there.
There
just
aren't
enough
of
them
really
having
a
fast
growth
rate
like
this
indicates
a
problem.
Overall
now
we
can
see
with
the
most
recent
information
that
growth
rate
has
come
down
and
that's
a
early
indication
that
maybe
their
numbers
are
coming
back
up.
B
So
again
we're
going
to
be
watching
this
closely,
but
this
is
more
hopeful,
so
that's
kind
of
a
a
quick
synopsis
of
where
we
are
with
walleye
and
yellow
perch
and
after
we're
able
to
update
our
models
later
this
spring
or
early
summer.
We'll
have
some
new
reads
on
where
we
are
at
and
we'll
see
if,
in
fact,
that
we
are
getting
some
improvements
in
the
perch
population
and
fishery,
that's
what
we're
hoping
for
and
we'll
look
forward
to
reporting
back
to
you
again.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
dave
for
that
fantastic
update
on
our
saginaw
bay,
perch
and
walleye
fishery,
much
appreciated
so
next,
we'll
turn
our
attention
to
cisco
restoration
in
lake
huron,
which
has
been
a
long
talked
about
opportunity
for
our
lake
huron
fisheries
as
an
ecosystem,
restoration
opportunity,
and
so
next
I
welcome
kevin
mcdonald
from
the
u.s
fish
and
wildlife
service
who
is
joining
us
this
evening
to
share
an
update
on
those
current
restoration
efforts
ongoing
in
lake
huron,
so
kevin
welcome.
C
Hello,
my
name
is
kevin
mcdonald,
I'm
and
I'm
a
fisheries
biologist
with
the
u.s
fish
and
wildlife
service
based
on
the
alpena
conservation
office.
Today,
I'm
excited
to
be
sharing
some
updates
and
some
progress
on
an
effort
that
our
office
has
been
a
part
of
to
restore
cisco
to
the
southern
parts
of
lake
huron.
C
This
project
has
been
the
result
of
a
lot
of
work
from
a
lot
of
different
agencies.
I've
all
been
coordinating
and
working
through
the
lake
huron
technical
committee,
so
before
moving
forward,
I'd
like
to
take
a
moment
to
acknowledge
all
the
work
that
our
hatchery
programs
and
staff
in
the
alpena
office
have
done
along
with
all
of
our
project
partners.
This
truly
is
a
collaborative
effort
and
it
just
wouldn't
be
possible
without
the
cooperation
of
each
of
the
each
agency
or
tribe
that
you
can
see
here
at
the
bottom
of
the
screen.
C
So
to
begin,
I'd
like
to
start
with
a
brief
history
of
cisco
and
lake
huron.
As
many
folks
probably
know,
prior
to
the
mid
20th
century,
cisco
were
the
most
abundant
most
abundant
pelagic
fish
in
lake
huron.
In
fact,
we
can
look
back
to
a
source
dating
back
to
1929
said
that
cisco
would
be
found
quote
out
of
virtually
every
port
in
lake
huron
in
the
north
channel
and
georgian
bay.
C
So
historically
spawning
aggregations
were
concentrated
in
just
several
hot
spots,
including
thunder
bay.
The
northern
portion
of
the
lake
stretching
from
the
latino
islands
all
the
way
into
the
north
north
channel.
The
bruce.
C
Both
in
the
georgian
bay
and
in
the
main
peninsula,
and
then
lastly,
saginaw
bay,
which
is
going
to
be
the
focus
of
the
rest
of
this
talk,
is
the
spawning
aggregations
that
used
to
occur
there
so
between
the
1940s
and
1970s,
as
when
we
really
see
the
cisco
decline
from
being
the
most
abundant
pelagic
fish
in
lake
huron,
down
to
just
being
a
minor
component
of
the
lake
huron
fish
community-
and
there
are
several
causes
for
this
and
a
few
listed
here
and
just
the
introduction
of
always
from
rainbow
smelt,
overfishing
and
then
water,
quality
issues
and
habitat
loss,
and
so
on
this
figure.
C
C
You
can
see
right
in
the
1940s
when
we
see
that
sharp
decline
in
landings-
and
one
thing
I'd
like
to
point
out,
is
that
historically,
the
saginaw
bay
population
provided
some
of
the
largest
landings
for
the
commercial
fishery,
and
so
that's
one
reason
why
we've
taken
an
interest
in
restoring
cisco
into
saginaw
bay.
C
So
so
that
was
historically.
Currently,
you
know
where
are
the
fish,
and
currently
they
are
concentrated
into
the
northern
part
of
the
main
basin,
starting
from
the
latino
islands,
all
the
way
over
to
drummond
island,
the
north
channel
and
georgian
bay.
C
So
a
lack
of
fish
in
the
main
basin
in
saginaw
bay-
or
I
should
say
of
cisco-
is
one
of
the
reasons
that
the
lake
here
on
technical
committee
developed
these
fish
community
objectives
for
corgonans
in
in
lake
huron,
and
so
the
first
is
the
first
objective
that
was
identified
was
to
maintain
the
present
diversity
of
those
fish.
C
And
so
we
decided
to
begin
this
reintroduction
process
in
saginaw
bay,
with
hopes
that
this
reintroducing
fish
in
saginaw
bay,
they'd,
eventually
spread
to
the
main
basin
of
lake
huron.
C
So
you
know
why
is
it
important
to
re
recover,
cisco
and
lake
huron?
The
first
is,
you
know,
cisco's,
as
I
documented
they
historically
were
an
important
commercial
fishery,
and
we
think
that
you
know
they
could
provide
an
important
component
for
commercial
and
recreational
fisheries
in
the
future.
C
Predatory
fish
in
lake
huron
would
definitely
benefit
from
additional
prey
source,
especially
a
prey
source
that
is
low
in
thiaminates,
which
can
have
negative
effects.
For
you
know:
lake
trout
and
lake
trout
ability
to
reproduce
they
can
hopefully
provide
a
pelagic
buffer
for
yellow
perch
populations
and
and
really
they
differ
from
other
pelagic
crayfish
and
they
occupy
a
different,
a
slightly
different
niche
and
so
and
and
that
niche
is
more
in
line
with
the
historic
fish
community.
C
So
we're
hoping
that
we're
able
to
reintroduce
that
or
fill
that
niche
once
again
and
cisco
because
of
their
spawning
patterns
coming
in
in
coming
into
shore,
to
spawn
or
coming
in
shallow,
to
spawn
they're
able
to
connect
nearshore
and
offshore
food.
D
C
And
currently,
the
the
lower
trophic
levels
in
lake
huron
look
a
lot
like
superior
and
we
see
cisco
thriving
there.
So
we
think
the
conditions
are
are
right
for
a
reintroduction
and
that
really
they
have
a
good
opportunity
to
be
successful.
C
So
next
I'd
like
to
just
look
at
how
the
stocking
and
reproduction
study
is
actually
functioning,
and
so
the
goal
that
we
came
up
with
was
to
stock
a
million
fingerlings
of
annually
for
a
minimum
of
10
years,
and
so
we're
actually
splitting
those
cohorts
between
spring
and
fall
releases
to
evaluate
how
season
and
body
size
might
affect
the
relative
performance,
or
you
know,
survival
of
these
stocked
fish,
and
so
we
actually
collected
our
brood
stock
from
the
north
northern
lake
huron
populations
of
cisco
that
do
exist
in
the
relational
islands
and
on
drummond
island,
and
so
we
collected
those
fish
and
gametes
from
those
fish
and
actually
reared
them
in
the
jordan
river,
national
fish,
hatchery.
C
And
so
currently
we
this
effort
began
in
2017
and
continued
into
last
year,
and
so
currently
we
have
four
four
lines
of
brood
stock
at
that
facility
that
we
can
use
into
the
future
to
provide
stocked
fish.
But
once
those
fish
are
reared
and
ready
to
go,
they
get
then
transferred
from
the
jordan
river
fish
hatchery
and
then
we're
stocking
them
in
the
lake
here
on
and
so
all
fish
that
are
being
stocked.
C
I
should
also
mention
that
we'll
have
a
otc
mark
or
which
I'll
talk
about
in
just
a
bit,
but
essentially
this
is
a
way
for
us
to
identify
a
hatchery
fish,
and
this
is
a
great
way
to
iden
to
mark
fish
that
are
just
too
small
for
traditional
methods
like
pit
tags
or
floyd
tags,
or
even
fin
clips
we're
talking
about
some
pretty
small
fish,
so
stocking
events.
C
As
I
mentioned,
they
they
occur
in
the
fall
and
spring,
and
we
also
did
divided
our
stocking
into
near
shore
and
offshore
events.
So
we
did
some
shore
stocking
and
then
we
also
used
our
research
vessel,
the
beard
to
do
offshore
stocking
in
saginaw
bay,
and
so
all
the
stocking
happened
there,
either
from
the
shore
near
tawas
or
just
off
shore
there
as
well.
C
So
what
does
that
look
like
so
to
date?
We've
done
pretty
good
in
terms
of
meeting
our
goals,
our
stocking
goals.
So
here
on
the
left
side
of
the
slide,
you
can
see
the
size
of
fish.
The
two
different
sizes
of
the
fish
that
get
stocked
and
so
on.
The
the
smaller
fish
would
be
a
spring
spring.
Release
fish
and
the
larger
fish
there
in
the
palms
would
be
an
example
of
a
fall
released,
fish
and
so
and
then
on
the
graph.
C
You
can
just
see
starting
in
2018
how
many
fish
have
been
stocked
each
year,
and
so
I
should
note
in
2020,
you'll
notice,
those
asterisks
above
those
bars,
and
that's
just
to
indicate
that
in
those
years
we
only
were
able
to
do
short
stocking
due
to
restrictions
with
kobit.
However,
in
2021
we
are
planning
on
stocking
and
hopefully
we'll
be
able
to
do
both
shore
and
continue
on
our
offshore
stocking
to
evaluate
on
how
how
those
strategies
affect
survival
rates.
C
So
I
mentioned
that
we're
using
otc
or
oxytetracycline,
and
so
this
is
a.
C
This
is
a
great
technique,
as
I
mentioned,
to
put
a
mark
on
very
small
fish
and
it's
a
it's
a
non-invasive
way
to
to
mark
fish
as
well,
and
so
this
chemical
leaves
a
fluorescent
mark
on
hard
structures
in
the
fish,
so
actually
in
their
bones
and
otoliths
and
other
other
structures
such
as
that
and
what's
great,
is
it's
introduced
to
the
fish
through
their
feed
just
in
the
hatchery
prior
to
release,
and
so
the
goal
here
is,
if
we
recapture
a
fish,
we're
able
to
pull
their
vertebrae
from
from
that
fish,
and
you
put
it
under
a
fluorescent
light
and
then
it
absorbs
that
light
and
then
it
will
actually
fluoresce
on
its
own
and
we
were
able
to
mark
fish
both
in
the
spring
and
fall,
and
so
in
the
spring
those
fish
receive
the
single
treatment
otc
and
fall
fish.
F
C
Assuming
that
we're
able
to
get
these
fish
back
and
so
the
bottom
of
the
slide,
you
can
see
examples
of
what
a
single
mark
versus
the
double
mark
there
looks
like,
and
hopefully
you
can
kind
of
tease
apart
the
difference
there
with
the
fall
fall
release,
you
can
see
kind
of
two
halos
on
each
on
each
vertebrae
versus
the
spring
release,
where
you
only
see
a
single
mark,
so
after
fish
get
put
in
the
lake
or
stockton
lake,
the
next
question
then
becomes
you
know?
How
are
they
doing?
C
Are
they
surviving?
Are
they
growing
and
are
they
reproducing
and
so
to
evaluate
if
stocked
fish
are
producing
wild
fish
in
in
the
bay
we
had,
cern
in
2017
have
begun
larval
surveys
in
saginaw
bay,
and
so
these
surveys
involve
dragging
a
larval
net,
know
known
as
a
new
net
behind
a
boat
and
running
transects
throughout
the
bay,
and
you
can
see
on
the
map
here.
Each
one
of
those
dots
is
a
survey
point.
C
C
So
moving
on
to
juveniles,
we
utilize
two
different
surveys
to
look
for
juvenile
fish
that
and
those
include
a
beach
sains
and
small
boat
bottom
trawls,
and
so
on
the
map.
Here
you
can
see
the
red
dots
actually
represent
the
locations
that
we're
going
to
and
able
to
successfully
beach
sane,
and
so
the
idea
here
is
you
know
similarly
we're
looking
to
document
recruitment
in
case
our
larval
sampling
isn't
able
to
find
fish.
C
Hopefully
this
is
just
another
way
to
capture
fish
and
understand
if
they
are
growing
to
to
this
level,
and
so
these
these
surveys
typically
happen
into
may
and
june,
and
then
adult
surveys.
We
have
a
lot
of
different
surveys
that
help
us
get
a
hold
of
any
adults
that
we
encounter
in
saginaw
bay.
Those
include
midwater
trawls
and
those
are
done
through
a
bunch
of
agencies,
usgs
fish
and
wildlife
service
and
michigan
dnr
and
as
well
as
bottom
trial.
C
Surveys
in
the
deeper
parts
of
saginaw
bay
by
usgs
and
the
michigan
dnr
also
has
a
gill
net
survey
that
they
do
each
year
and
then,
as
well
as
looking
at
the
stomach
contents
from
their
lake
trout
survey.
So
we're
able,
if
we
find
that
lake
trout
are
in
fact
eating
cisco,
again,
we'll
be
able
to
know
or
hopefully
find
fish
in
electronic
stomachs
as
well.
C
And
so
the
last
survey
that
we
do
is
a
fall
gill
netting
survey
looking
for
spawning
fish
to
document
if
stocked
fish
are
indeed
spawning,
and
so
this
year
will
actually
be
the
first
year
that
we're
able
to
do
that.
That
survey,
because,
as
I
mentioned,
this
is
about
the
first
year
that
we
we
expect
of
fish
to
start
spawning
in
mass.
C
So
the
the
goal
here
is
to
head
back
to
where
they
were
stocked
and
put
some
gill
nets
and
see
if
we
can
find
some
spawn
eating
fish
and
if
hopefully,
we're
able
to
document
spawning
there
and
then
as
as
well
as
some
other
locations
as
well
and
so
hopefully
I've
conveyed.
C
You
know
we
are
looking
for
almost
every
life
stage
of
cisco
and
saginaw
bay
to
hopefully
document
you
know
both
how
well
the
hatchery
fish
are
surviving
and
then
you
know,
are
they
actually
contributing
to
to
the
population
through
successful
spawning
and
recruitment.
C
So,
looking
forward
what
you
know
what's
next
for
this
project,
so
as
I
mentioned,
we
have
four
lines
of
broodstock
at
the
jordan
river
national
fish
hatchery,
and
so
we
don't
need
to
do
any
more
gamete
collections
up
in
the
latino
islands
and
drummond
island
until
2023,
and
that's
just
to
replenish
the
broodstocks
and
make
sure
that
we're
capturing
the
correct.
C
You
know
genetic
diversity
that
that's
necessary,
but
that's
great
news
because
having
those
brood
stocks
available
is
just
a
more
reliable
egg
source
than
having
to
go
up
to
the
or
go
capture
you
know
gametes
in
the
wild
every
year.
So
we're
excited
to
have
that.
C
So
you
know
today
I
kind
of
went
over
the
project
overview,
and
so
the
question
becomes,
you
know.
Well,
how
long
are
the
fish
doing?
Well,
today,
we've
only
seen
a
handful
of
cisco
that
have
been
encountered
in
saginaw
bay.
C
I
believe
the
largest
amount
were
encountered
by
a
bait
fisherman
who,
who
got
some
small
silvery
fish
in
his
catch
and
let
us
know,
but
we're
we're
anticipating
some
some
bigger
catches
here
coming
up,
especially
as
the
fish
grow
and
mature
and
become
more
susceptible
to
especially
our
adult
surveys
and
yeah
and
another.
Another
thing
that
we
have
in
the
works
is
a
lot
of
telemetry
studies.
C
Hopefully
we'll
be
able
to
put
acoustic
tags
and
fish
and
I'll
be
able
to
track
them
through
the
lake
and
understand
you
know
where
they
go,
especially
after
stocking
and
then
as
well
as
where
did
the
adults
go
after
the
you
know
after
stocking
and
when
they
grow
so
stay
tuned?
We'll
have
some
more
information
with
that
coming
up.
C
So.
Lastly,
I'd
like
to
ask
for
your
help,
so
some
of
you
may
have
already
seen
our
our
cisco
wanted
posters
around
boat
launches
throughout
the
state.
So
if
you
do
encounter
a
cisco
during
your
work
or
recreation,
we
ask
that
you
remove
that
tail
and
wrap
it
in
tinfoil
or
put
in
a
black
bag
and
then
return
it
to
either
the
dnr
office.
In
bay
city
or
alpena,
or
the
alpena
u.s
fish
and
wildlife
office,
that
would
be
a
great
help
to
us
and
there's
more
information.
C
And
if
you
turn
a
fish,
you
know
we
can
definitely
keep
you
in
the
loop
and
let
you
know
what
we
find
out
so
with
that.
Hopefully,
I've
left
enough
time
to
take
some
questions.
If
we
don't
get
to
your
question,
my
email
is
on
the
slide
feel
free
to
get
in
touch,
and
thank
you
for
your
time.
C
A
A
super,
exciting
effort
led
by
u.s
fish
and
wildlife
service
among
the
many
other
partners
that
you
referenced
so
now,
we'll
turn
our
attention
to
another
near-shore
topic
of
interest
across
lake
huron,
and
that's
that
of
cormorant
management
and
tony
aiderman
from
the
usda
wildlife
services
has
traditionally
provided
accommodate
cormorant
management
update
for
lake
huron
and
he
is
unable
to
join
us
this
evening,
but
has
recorded
a
presentation
that
we'd
like
to
share
and
we'll
pass
any
questions
to
randy
claremont
or
dave
fielder
from
the
department
of
natural
resources
who
have
also
been
involved
in
those
update
efforts.
A
So
with
further
ado
I'll
pass
the
update
over
to
tony.
E
E
E
E
So
getting
started:
here's
a
map
of
the
glacial
islands
down
in
the
bottom
lower
left
corner
green
island,
which
is
just
west
of
the
mackinac
bridge
st
martin
shoal
fossil
shoal
is
underwater
and
is
no
longer
visible.
E
Goose,
island,
crow
island
and
little
saddlebag
island
little
saddlebag
island
has
not
had
cormorants
nesting
on
it
and
several
years
crow
island
still
does.
Even
though
there's
not
much
real
estate
left,
the
cormorants
do
still
mess
there.
They
still
nest
on
goose
island.
E
E
Just
want
to
show
a
graph
from
basically
when
we
started,
we
actually
started
in
2004
with
management
activities
in
malaysia
knows
and
now,
as
you
can
see,
all
the
little
bitty
colored
lines.
There
are
crow
island
and
saddlebag
green
island,
green
island
shoal,
st
martin's,
weingrad,
goose
island
and,
as
I
just
mentioned,
the
only
ones
that
are
still
active
are
goose,
island,
saint
martins
and
basically
green
island
and
crow
island.
E
As
you
can
see,
we
were
able
to
bring
the
numbers
down
fairly
quick
early
on
and
we
kind
of
got
hung
up
around
eight
to
900,
which
2012
was
a
little
bit
of
an
odd
year.
For
whatever
reason
I
I
can't
explain
that,
but
our
goal
was
to
get
it
down
to
500
and
we
really
struggled
as
you
can
see,
going
into
14
and
15
and
then
in
2016
the
prdo,
which
we,
the
previous
order,
that
we
worked
under
to
do.
E
The
numbers
did
creep
back
up
a
little
bit
by
18.
We
were
able
to
do
management,
but
we
pretty
much
looked
at
it
as
like
a
50
take.
E
We
would
just
kind
of
plateau
around
that
900
and
we're
starting
to
do
it
again
in
19
and
then
in
2020,
but
in
2020
we
made
some
changes,
I'm
about
to
show
you,
but
before
I
get
to
2020,
I
just
kind
of
want
to
show
you
what
we
did
in
2019,
just
kind
of
as
a
reference
so
island
locations
that
I
mentioned
mess
oiled
birds
removed.
E
E
In
a
little
bit
of
a
change,
the
the
overall
peakness
numbers
were
about
the
same
as
in
2019,
but
we
did
a
kind
of
a
different
approach
with
the
help
of
the
michigan
dnr.
It's
called
the
consumptive
index
approach
and
I'm
not
going
to
try
to
explain
that
because
I
can't
knowledgeably
do
that,
but
randy
claremont
with
michigan
fisheries,
michigan,
dnr,
fisheries,
division
or
dave
fielder
could
do
a
much
better
job
of
that.
So
that
would
be
a
much
better
question
to
talk
to
them.
E
E
We
were
able
to
do
it
in
2020
and
my
prediction
is
going
into
2021
here.
Our
peakness
count
is
hopefully
quite
a
bit
lower
than
it
was
in
the
past
four
years.
E
So
we're
gonna
see
what
what
that,
what
that'll
look
like
going
into
2021
with
the
60
take,
I
guess
we'll
just
have
to
wait
and
see,
but
my
prediction
is
that
it
will
be
lower,
but
there
are
several
factors
that
you
know:
influence
that
so
in
2021.
Our
plans
for
relationals
are
pretty
much
the
same.
We
need
to
gather
nest
counts
from
all
the
locations
and
that's
a
peak
nest
count
low
number.
E
So
we
know
what
to
do
as
far
as
management
and
and
work
do
it,
we'll
oil
all
available
nests
and
I
say
available
nest,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
really
the
only
available
mess
anymore
on
st
martin
shoal
green
island,
goose,
island,
possibly
crow
island.
There
may
be
some
because
that's
fairly
that's
pretty
much
treeless
but
goose.
C
E
Green
island
are
tree
nesters
and
they're
just
not
available,
so
our
availability
to
oil,
mass
cormorant
nests
are
pretty
limited
election
holes.
We'll
consider,
you
know,
continue,
continue
to
call
adults
with
shotguns
and
we
will
in
2021,
use
the
consumptive
index
approach
again
that
was
developed
by
michigan
dnr.
E
One
thing:
that's
kind
of
changed
for
us
also
in
the
past
several
years
is
the
lake
levels
and
what
it's
kind
of
done
with
cormorants,
how
it's
kind
of
shifted
them
around
and
moved
them
around
and
changed
their
habits.
I'm
kind
of
curious
to
see
what
the
lake
levels
are
this
year
and
and
what
kind
of
effect
that
may
or
may
not
have
on
on
the
cormorants
in
the
wastewater.
E
I
also
add:
that's
that's
pretty
much
my
update
for
cedarville,
it's
pretty
it's
pretty
short.
It's
pretty
quick!
That's
that's
pretty
much
all
the
information
I
have,
but
I
also
like
to
let
everybody
know
kind
of
what
else
we're
doing
out
there,
what
we,
what
we
have
been
doing
out
there
so
in
the
in
the
rest
of
michigan
beta,
knock.
We've
we've
done
some
management
work
there
in
the
past
couple
years
as
you'll
see
beaver
island
a
little
bit.
E
E
Jumping
back
to
2019,
we
really
only
did
management
in
round
island
and
big
bay
to
knock
round
islands,
one
of
the
bigger
cormorant
colonies
there
that
we
have
access
to
work
on.
As
you
can
see,
the
nest
numbers
were
1481
and
we
took
50
percent
that
year,
1481
adults,
we
oiled
a
few
mass.
E
E
In
2020
so
round
island
the
nest
count
numbers
they
jumped
up
a
little
bit
for
whatever
reason
up
to
1591
just
right
at
1600.,
but
we
use
the
consumptive
index
approach
there,
as
well
as
far
as
our
management
tape,
and
we
took
right
at
66
percent.
So
I'm
really
curious
what,
along
with
the
latin
knows,
to
see
what
happens
with
round
island
big
beta,
not
using
that
a
little
bit
more
of
aggressive
approach.
As
far
as
take,
we
did
the
same
thing
as
you
can
see
in
whiskey
island
nest.
E
Numbers
were
up
just
a
little
bit
from
our
previous
2019
estimate,
and
we
took
about
65
again
using
the
consumptive
index
approach
so
kind
of
curious
to
see
where
those
nest
numbers
are
going
to
come
in
at
those
two
locations
as
well.
E
E
So
a
lot
of
this
in
2018
19
and
even
2020s
a
little
bit
skewed,
because
we
don't
have
really
good
nest
data
information
or
we
did
not
or
we
were
not
able
to
acquire
it.
I
want
to
change
that
in
2021
and
and
moving
forward,
so
we
can
really
see
what's
going
on,
but
with
that
being
said,
I
predict
these
numbers
are
not
really
too
much
higher
than
what's
here,
just
based
on
what
I've
seen
out
there.
But
again
I
don't
have
the
actual
nest
count
data
to
back
it
up.
E
So
moving
forward
kind
of
for
the
rest
of
the
state
for
lake
michigan
and
lake
huron
and
based
in
noc,
we
will
try
to
get
a
pretty
comprehensive
nest,
count
at
all
cormorant
nest
locations
and
continue
with
management
where
we
can
same
for
beaver
nest
counts
at
all
the
net
colonies,
the
cormorant
colonies
out
there
and
conduct
management
where
we
can
mostly
through
calling
adults
with
shotguns
with
non-toxic
shots,
they
should
knows
continue
the
same
nest,
count
and
management
thunder
bay,
do
an
s
count,
and
I
say,
management
based
on
on
the
nest
count.
E
E
A
lot
of
that,
I
believe,
had
to
do
with
not
only
our
management
over
the
years,
but
then,
as
of
the
last
couple
of
years,
the
higher
lake
levels,
really,
the
cormorants
lost
a
lot
of
real
estate
on
their
typical
or
historic
nesting
areas
out
there.
So
that
really
changed
things
out
there
bloody
pump
storage.
That's
the
man
made
break
wall,
we'll
do
nest,
counts
and
management
out
there,
and
possibly
in
the
charity,
islands
and
cdf
island
we'll
do
if
nothing
else,
we'll
do
nest
counts
for
this
year.
E
It's
pretty
much
the
end
of
the
presentation
I
apologize
to
everybody.
I
will
not
be
here
to
take
questions
this
thursday
night,
but
with
that
being
said,
brandon
will
leave
this
slide
up
on
for
a
little
bit.
My
contact
information
is
there
my
email,
my
direct
line
at
the
office
and
my
cell
phone
number.
E
I've
also
asked
dave,
fielder
and
randy
claremont.
If
you
do
have
questions
they
may
be
able
to
answer
them,
they're
quite
familiar
with
the
cormorant
management
and
what's
been
going
on
for
all
these
years.
A
Well,
thanks
tony
for
taking
the
time
to
record
and
share
that
update
related
to
cormorant
management
in
lake
huron.
We
much
appreciate
thank
you
and
now,
as
we
round
out
our
evening,
it's
been
an
action-packed
evening
and
I'm
excited
to
turn
our
attention
to
the
management
updates
related
to
our
near
shore,
fisheries
of
lake
huron
and
I'd
like
to
introduce
randy,
claremont
who's,
the
laker
on
basin
coordinator,
as
well
as
jeff
jolley,
who
has
recorded
and
will
share
some
updates
specific
to
saginaw
bay,
fisheries
management.
A
G
G
Here's
a
quick
snapshot
showing
our
two
units,
so
I'm
jeff
jolly
the
unit
supervisor
for
the
southern
lake
huron
unit
and
dave
borgeson
is
the
unit
manager
for
the
northern
unit.
Eddie
dutton
and
jason
gosto
are
the
biologists
for
the
southern
unit,
while
neil
gadby
and
tim
celinski
are
the
biologists
for
the
northern
unit.
G
Last
fall:
we
formed
a
constituent-based
work
group
to
discuss
a
vision
for
the
fishery
of
saginaw
bay
and
basin.
This
work
group
was
formed
after
discussions
with
the
lake
huron
citizens.
Fishery
advisor
meeting
revealed
that
an
overall
discussion
of
goals
and
objectives
was
long
for
the
bay
was
long
overdue,
so
our
vision
was
as
follows:
to
develop
an
angler
driven
vision
for
the
present
and
future
saginaw
basin,
that
is
bays
and
rivers.
G
We
formed
a
work
group
with
a
variety
of
folks
representing
various
recreational
angling
interests
like
walleye
fishing
or
members
of
walleye
clubs,
also
sort
of
folks
associated
with
charter
industry
or
even
retail
businesses,
and
also
wanted
to
make
sure
we
captured
a
diversity
of
folks
in
terms
of
geography
up
and
down
and
around
the
bay
representing
various
areas.
G
We
developed
a
survey
to
be
administered
to
a
random
sample
from
the
michigan
dnr
angler
database
and
we
piloted
the
survey
through
the
citizens
fishery
advisory
group,
and
the
purpose
of
this
survey
is
to
even
capture
more
information
about
values
and
priorities
for
the
bay
and
the
survey
will
launch
very
shortly.
Probably
within
a
week
after
we
complete
and
process
the
survey,
we,
the
dnr,
will
compile
a
report
outlining
the
results
of
our
work
group
process,
as
well
as
a
new
management
plan
for
the
saginaw
bay
and
associated
connecting
rivers.
G
The
plan
will
be
vetted
through
various
constituent
groups
and
reviewed
internally
and
we're
really
hoping
we
can
come
up
with
a
high
quality
product
and
have
good
buy-in
from
our
partners.
So
we
can
periodically
go
back
to
the
plan
and
check
in
on
how
we
are
doing
in
the
bay
and
that
our
goals
and
values
still
match
those
that
we
identified
in
the
plan.
G
G
Here
are
some
of
the
highlights
from
the
worker
process,
thus
far,
some
of
the
things
that
were
identified
as
as
of
high
value,
one
was
a
resilient
fishery
that
can
bounce
back
and
withstand
change.
G
Well,
the
folks
on
the
worker
very
much
appreciated
the
stat,
the
state
of
the
fishery,
as
it
is
right
now
very
high
quality,
saginaw
bay,
walleye
fishery
folks
really
appreciated
a
diverse
fish
community
and
the
fishing
opportunities
that
that
might
bring
whether
it's
diversity
of
of
types
of
fish.
You
know
beyond
walleye
and
yellow
perch,
especially
in
the
outer
bay
you
get
into
some
of
the
salmonids,
as
well
as
opportunities,
different
ways
in
which
you
may
use
the
bay
and
rivers
for
fishing
and
different
techniques.
G
You
might
use
people
place
a
high
value
on
native
species,
recovery
and
restoration,
and
also
high
value
on
habitat,
restoration
and
water
quality.
You
know
it
was
very
easily
understood
and
recognized
that
you
can't
have
a
high
quality
fish
population
if
you
don't
have
the
habitat
and
water
quality
to
go
with
it.
G
A
couple
of
other
notes
in
terms
of
risk.
There
was
caution
about
taking
risks
related
to
the
fishery
and
folks
really
preferred
calculated
decision
making.
I
think
this
stems
from
the
fact
that
there
was
a
time
and
and
and
people
remember
it
when
the
walleye
fishery
and
the
the
fishery
of
the
bay
was
not
in
good
shape
and
now
currently,
the
walmart
population
is
doing
great
and
and
people
value
that
I
think
that's
something
to
be
careful
with
and
something
to
be
respected.
G
Also,
some
frustration
expressed
you
know,
especially
with
the
yellow
perch
fishery.
This
used
to
be
such
a
popular
fishery
and
high
quality.
It's
really
declined
over
the
years,
largely
due
to
a
very
abundant
walleye
population.
We
think
the
predation
on
those
juvenile
perch
is
really
suppressing
that
population,
so
there's
frustration
there,
but
also
you
know,
recognition
that
it's
a
challenging
management
situation
so
moving
on
to
the
lake
sturgeon
reintroduction
program
that
began
four
years
ago-
and
it
was
paused
last
year
due
to
the
covet
19
pandemic,
meaning
we
didn't
stock
any
fish
last
year.
G
We've
been
getting
angle
reports
the
last
several
years
of
the
sturgeon,
being,
incidentally,
caught
in
the
lower
saginaw
river
and
out
in
the
bay
by
ice
fishers
and
we're
hoping
that
this
is
an
indication
that
we
have
good
survival
of
these
stock
fish
efforts
are
also
underway
to
acquire
funding
for
a
telemetry
study
that
would
help
us
understand
how
well
the
fish
are
surviving
and
where
they
might
go
after
stocking.
G
G
So
I'm
sure
that
most
of
you
remember
both
the
sanford
dam,
which
impounded
sanford
reservoir
and
wixsome
reservoir,
which
was
impounded
by
edenville
dam,
both
breached
and
failed.
Last
may
here's
edenville
dam
on
the
titubawasi
here
at
sanford
dam
on
the
tidal
velocity,
the
tidabossi
flows
down
through
midland
down
here
by
the
national
wildlife
refuge
where
it
becomes
the
saginaw
river.
G
The
communities
excuse
me,
the
communities
of
sanford
and
midland
immediately
downstream
suffered
great
damage
further
downstream.
The
shiawassee
national
wildlife
refuge
where
the
flint
river,
the
cass,
the
shiawassee
and
titibasi
mostly
meet
that
took
the
blunt
of
the
flooding
downriver
and
it
likely
reduced
and
prevented
further
flooding
damage
to
saginaw
and
bay
city.
So
the
weapon
complex
there
at
that
confluence
really
displayed
its
value,
which
we
call
ecosystem
fun
ecosystem
services
in
buffering
the
negative
effects
of
those
flood
waters.
G
G
Our
observations
thus
far
that
the
habitat
there
remains
intact
and
in
good
shape,
and
while
I
spawning
occurred
there
again
this
year,
we
were
able
to
tag
a
thousand
fish
in
about
a
week's
time
as
part
of
our
angler
harvest
monitoring
program
just
like
in
previous
years.
G
We
also
think
that
the
2020
young
of
the
year
walleye
should
have
been
mostly
out
of
the
river
by
the
time
the
flood
occurred,
the
walleye
spawn
in
march,
so
their
progeny
should
have
been
hatched
and
mostly
moved
down
river
and
out
of
the
bay.
If
anything,
the
flood
might
have
goosed
them
out
into
the
bay
a
bit
quicker.
G
Other
notes.
The
dow
ponds
were
not
compromised
in
the
flooding.
Everything
stayed
contained
in
the
way
that
system
of
ponds
is
engineered
to
contain
potential
hazardous
substances
worked
as
designed,
and
then
the
larger
impact
of
increased
sedimentation
are
unknown,
as
I
mentioned,
that
the
spawning
habitat
bolo
look
good
and
intact,
and
I
think
some
preliminary
observations
out
in
the
bay
of
corian
reef
don't
really
show
that
that's
being
sedimented
in
at
this
time
either.
G
Issues
that
are
being
monitoring
include
ongoing,
active
erosion
up
in
the
basin
and
also
the
potential
for
sea
lamprey
to
colonize
and
spawn
in
many
new
areas
of
the
tidabawasi
that
were
formally
blocked
by
the
dams.
A
All
right
appreciating
that
update
from
jeff
and
I'm
going
to
turn
the
mic
back
over
to
randy
claremont.
As
the
basin
coordinator.
F
Yeah
thanks
a
lot
brandon
and
I
guess,
given
the
amount
of
time
we
have
left,
which,
according
my
clock,
is
we're
at
our
time,
I
I
think
jeff
cover
covered
the
updates.
Well,
so
I
would
just
open
up
the
questions
and
I
know
one
of
the
questions
I
wanted
to
address.
It
was
on
cormorants
and
specifically
talked
about
some
of
the
caspian
turns
and
other
avian
species
that
can
act
as
predators
on
fish
and
or
how
are
we
treating
those
relative
to
cormorants?
F
And
you
know,
I
think,
a
couple
things
to
point
out
and
one
is
you
know
this
is
where
some
of
our
non-lethal
harassment
techniques
are
effective
for
not
only
cormorants
but
a
variety
of
other
species,
especially
at
fish
stocking
sites.
Where
our
you
know,
the
stock
fish
are
concentrated
and
it
just
creates
a
a
unique
environment
for
the
birds
and
the
fish
to
interact.
So
harassment
techniques
and
we've
seen
this
with
a
lot
of
our
stockings
oftentimes.
F
So
I
think
the
strategy
again
is
to
use
both
non-lethal
and
lethal
techniques
when
possible
and
with
cormorant
population
just
given
their
numbers
and
the
the
the
idea
behind
this
new
permit
system
is
it's
it's
to
alleviate
conflicts
and
the
conflicts
that
I
hear
about
from
the
management
standpoint
are
always
fisheries
and
cormorants,
and
very
seldom,
do
I
hear
any
other
bird
species
mentioned
and
they're
not
covered
under
this
permit
system
for
lethal.
Take
so
good
question
and
are
there
other,
like?
F
A
I
think
two
that
stood
out
that
I
wanted
to
address
live
was
one
was
regarding
the
trends
of
atlantic
salmon
numbers
in
the
fishery,
and
I
saw
there
was
a
reference
to
last
week's
presentation
and
where
that
was
addressed,
so
check
out
the
recording
and
then
the
other
question.
There
were
several
questions.
Actually,
that
related
to
your
plans
or
thinking
about
walleye
size
and
creole
limits.
Given
dave's
presentation.
F
Yeah,
and
so
let
me
address
both
those
with
the
atlantic
salmon,
you
have
the
presentations
online
that
really
cover
some
of
the
trends
and
catch
and
effort
in
stocking.
I
will
say:
we've
had
a
project
funded
in
support
from
the
the
blue
water
anglers
and
michigan
state
university
and
md
r
to
look
at
atlantic
salmon
fishery
trends
at
a
deeper
level.
So
we
actually
have
some
preliminary
stock
assessment
estimates.
F
We
talk
about
100
000
atlantic
salmon
every
year,
but
how
many
survive
each
age
class
and
cumulatively,
how
many
do
we
have
in
lake
huron
and
mad
zinc?
The
graduate
student
there
has
a
preliminary
estimate
of
about
a
half
a
million
atlantic
salmon
lake
huron
at
any
point
in
time,
so
some
some
information
coming
out
from
that
pretty
soon
in
that
project
won't
be
covering
the
presentation,
but
we'll
be
sharing
that
as
we
get
more
detail
down
the
road.
The
other
question
just
about
regulations
is
a
great
example
to
you
know.
F
These
bays
and
near
shore
areas
because
of
the
decline
in
nutrients
in
the
open
water,
have
become
huge
drivers
in
the
fishery,
both
in
terms
of
fish
recruitment,
catch
effort,
as
you
saw
referenced
by
neal
in
the
st
mary's
river
30
to
35
percent
of
our
total
angler
efforts,
similar
trends
in
saginaw
bay,
so
these
bays
and
near
shore
areas
are
so
critical
and
because
we
don't
stock
a
lot
of
fish
in
them,
a
lot
of
them
are
the
near
shore,
species,
walleye
and
pike
and
bass.
F
We
put
a
lot
of
science
and
monitoring
and
thinking
behind
it,
but
we
also
need
feedback
from
anglers
and
stakeholders
in
terms
of
the
effectiveness
of
the
regulations
from
both
the
biological
and
social
side,
we'll
get
into
that
in
more
depth
next
week,
we'll
have
a
lot
fewer
presentations.
All
the
great
the
talks
were
great
today,
but
we'll
be
able
to
actually
field
more
regulatory
questions
both
for
walleye
and
perch
in
saginaw
bay,
but
all
of
lake
huron
and
inland
waters
included.
A
Thanks
randy
and
appreciate
the
pitch
for
next
week.
Again,
it's
been
awesome
to
have
three
thursdays
in
a
row
talking
lake
here
on
fisheries.
The
only
questions
I
see
remaining
are
not
questions,
but
rather
appreciation
for
all
of
our
speakers
and
panelists
who
contributed
content
this
evening,
so
randy,
I'm
gonna,
thank
you
and
your
team
and
the
rest
of
our
presenters
for
all
and
michigan.
F
A
Thanks
randy
and
appreciation
to
everybody
hanging
on
as
participants
again,
we
would
love
and
hope
to
in
the
future.
Do
these
workshops
out
in
our
coastal
communities
in
person.
But
given
the
times,
this
virtual
format
is
what
we
have
and
we
appreciate
everybody
showing
up
to
have
this
conversation.
A
I'm
going
to
round
us
out
by
saying
this
workshop
has
been
recorded
and
we'll
be
providing
some
post-workshop
communications
that
will
provide
the
links
to
the
recordings
for
this
week
and
as
well
as
last
week
and
and
many
of
the
resources
that
were
shared
in
the
chat
and
normally,
I
would
say,
safe
travels
this
evening
and
watch
out
for
deer,
but
instead
I'll
say
safe,
virtual
travels
and
we'll
hope
to
see
you
all
again
next
year
have
a
good
evening.
Thank.