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A
Hi
there
hi
everyone,
it's
good
to
see
you
all
today
and
I
want
to
say
hi
to
the
audience
on
big
governmental,
TV
that'll
be
on
Channel
190
and
the
future.
So
you
may
be
able
to
watch
this
again.
If
you
stand
it,
I'm
gonna
talk
to
you
about,
I,
think
our
greatest
story
that
we've
ever
had
locally
and
that's
our
logging,
past
and
I-
take
about
45
minutes
here
to
talk
about
it
and
I
hope
you
like
it
will
give
you
the
recipe
for
vinegar
pie
along
the
way
to
anybody
familiar
with
vinegar
pie.
A
It's
huge
during
the
logging
area.
Every
lumber
camp
had
a
vinegar
pie
recipe.
So
let's
go
back
to
the
start
of
the
lumber
era,
which
is
about
1840
locally.
If
you
go
before
that,
the
only
real
merchants
here
were
fish
and
trappers,
and
the
entire
population
of
the
Saginaw
Valley
of
white
people
was
only
about
20
or
30
people.
The
rest
are
all
Native
Americans
and
they
did
not
live
in
the
woods.
A
They
lived
along
the
water,
so
the
population
was
along
the
Saginaw
River
along
the
tune
of
alive
sea,
but
not
in
the
woods,
so
the
first
white
people
that
come
into
this
area
a
lot
of
them
work
for
the
government
and
were
sent
to
check
the
territory
out.
What
is
this
area
like
and
they
all
reported
back
now
consider
this
was
all
swampland
mosquitoes
and
they
would
write
things
like
not
one
acre
fit
for
cultivation
and
nothing
here,
except
mosquitoes
swamps,
vicious
animals
and
nasty
Indians.
A
You
know
these
were
the
reports
that
went
back
to
the
government,
so
the
Michigan
territory,
Michigan
didn't
become
a
state,
told
1837.
So
at
the
very
beginning
the
Michigan
territory
was
nothing,
I
mean
Bernie,
who
was
the
probably
the
most
famous
person
in
Bay
City
Bernie
ran
and
you'll
find
that
I
digress
a
lot
when
I
talk.
Bernie
was
the
first
person
to
run
for
president
as
a
third
party
candidate
in
New
York
and
he
lost
so
badly
to
Lincoln
that
he
got
upset.
A
He
thought
I'll
go
to
the
most
godforsaken
place,
I
can
find
in
the
United
States
and
he
came
and
bought
the
west
side
of
what
became
later
base
city.
So
Bernie
I
mean
I
mean
this
was
the
place
to
go.
If
you
wanted
to
get
away
from
it
all.
So
all
these
guys
well
and
what
they
were
ignoring
was
the
obvious
crop.
The
first
crop
was
the
pine
trees.
I
mean
the
tire
state
was
covered
with
trees,
I
mean
Wisconsin,
Minnesota,
New
York.
A
All
northern
part
of
the
United
States
was
all
forest
land,
and
these
were
huge,
though
there
were
800
pine
trees
supposedly
along
the
Tennessee
River.
These
were
the
first
trees
in
our
area
to
get
cut,
and
these
Pines
were
over
200
foot
tall
and
they
would
have
no
limbs
so
until
the
very
top.
So
there
was
no
knots,
nothing
I
mean
when
they
cut
the
wood.
A
A
Oh,
they
cut,
bought
land
cut
trees,
they
started
looking
west
and
that
got
him
into
Michigan,
so
Henry
Sage
McGraw,
some
of
the
early
mill
owners
here
in
Bay
City,
were
New
York
residents
Henry
sage,
even
though
he
left
us
the
library
henry
sage
docked
all
his
workers
in
every
paycheck
to
build
the
library
and
then
give
it
to
the
city.
So
then
that
was
kind
of
a
standard
practice
at
the
time.
So
we
look
at
it
now.
We
think.
A
Well,
Henry
sage,
you
mean
all
these
business
practices,
but
it
was
an
honorable
thing
to
do
to
make
a
fortune
out
of
nothing
and
that's
what
happened
here
in
Michigan.
All
these
guys
came
in
big
city
was
unfortunate
because
all
the
money
flowed
out
of
town
sage,
for
example,
lived
in
Ithaca,
New
York,
his
wife
never
came.
He
had
the
largest
mill
in
the
world
and
all
the
money
went
to
Ithaca
New
York
and
he
built
Cornell
University,
so
Cornell
had
Sage
library,
the
sage
Chapel
sage,
residence
hall.
A
They
were
all
named
after
sage,
and
so
that's
how
that
all
started
and
Dave
City
becomes.
You
know
the
the
ground
zero
here
because
of
our
water
to
transport.
These
trees
in
the
lumber
out
of
town
and
the
trees
from
Michigan
are
from
our
side
of
the
state,
pretty
much
built
a
lot
of
New
York,
Baltimore
Philadelphia
and,
of
course
these
were
all
wood
before
the
big
fires.
Almost
every
city,
every
town
has
a
fire
because
it's
all
wood
construction,
so
everything
gets
replaced
by
stone.
A
So
a
lot
of
the
wood
that
came
from
Bay
City
doesn't
exist
anymore
because
it
all
burned
up,
including
Bay
City
yeah.
It's
kind
of
the
the
way
history
works
there.
So,
let's
talk,
they
called
it
the
battle
against
King
pines.
So
what
was
King
pine?
These
were
all
these
trees
that
covered
the
whole
state
and
the
way
would
work
was,
if
you
were
a
young
man,
a
boy,
an
adult
whatever,
and
you
work
the
lumber
in
the
lumber
industry.
A
So
a
typical
young
man
in
the
start
of
the
summer
or
a
start
of
the
winter
excuse
me
about
September,
would
go
into
the
woods
and
go
into
a
camp
and
work
all
winter
and
then,
in
the
spring,
when
the
logs
came
down,
they
come
back
down
and
work
in
the
mill,
so
they
had
the
two
jobs,
they
usually
work
for
a
mill
owner,
and
so
that
was
based.
Cities
story
pretty
much.
So
it
was
the
battle
against
king
pine
and
every
fall
about
14,000
men
and
boys
from
this
area
would
go.
North.
A
Those
had
volume
controls,
you
know,
so
it
was
about
40,000
men
and
boys
from
the
from
Michigan.
What
and
when
this
grows
our
peak
year
becomes
1888
in
Michigan
for
lumber.
Let
me
refer
to
my
notes
here.
A
little
bit.
I
should
mention
that
when
they
started
the
lumber
industry
here
in
Michigan,
they
thought
this
is
an
inexhaustible
resource
that
will
plant
trees
as
we
cut
them.
They'll
grow
well,
just
always
have
trees.
A
What
they
didn't
think
was,
of
course,
technology
is
going
to
improve
in
the
lumber
camp
and
so
that'll
speed
everything
up
and
we
clear-cut
the
state.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
so
the
season
runs
roughly
from
September
to
April
a
typical
camp
would
have
say
a
hundred
men
use,
as
example,
say,
a
hundred
people
working
in
a
camp
first
thing
they
would
do.
Is
they
were
divided
two
groups?
Half
of
them
would
get
the
camp
ready
of
food
haul,
a
large
bunk
room,
maybe
stables
for
your
horses,
a
blacksmith
shop.
A
So
there
were
several
kind
of
you
know.
Tar
paper
buildings
that
would
be
built
in
the
lumber
camp.
The
other
half
of
the
men
would
build
the
roads
that
were
needed
to
maintain
a
camp.
The
two
wrote,
the
roads
were
made
out
of
ice
and
they
would,
with
a
horse-drawn
team,
drag
a
you
know,
a
big
tank
of
water
up
and
down
what
would
be
the
road
and
it
would
drizzle
water
out
the
bottom,
and
they
would
do
this
course
in
the
winter,
so
it
would
freeze
and
they
had
at
the
end.
A
It's
almost
like
a
Zamboni.
You
know
what
I
mean
with
Zamboni
for
hockey
games
that
run
it
on
the
ice
and
it
shaves
off
the
top
of
the
ice
with
like
a
razor
blade,
and
so
that
ice
is
real
smooth
and
when
they
refreshed
the
ice
and
that's
what
they
would
do
in
these
roads,
they
would
drive
these
up
and
down
and
they
would
build
up
the
ice
and,
at
the
very
end
they
would
run
up
blade
down
it
and
the
blade
would
smooth
that
ice
off
and
create
a
little
curb
on
each
side.
A
So
that
later,
when
a
sled
is
sliding
down,
you
know
being
horse
drawn
down
the
ice.
The
sled
can't
fall
off
the
side
of
the
ice
because
it
had
that
a
little
curb,
so
they
would
make
two
roads,
the
tote,
Road
and
the
haul
road.
The
tote
Road
was
maybe
20
30
miles
and
would
be
getting
into
the
camp.
So
the
camp
is
located
in
the
woods
and
you
had
to
get
to
it
and
you
would
come
up
that
road
and
then
there
was
the
haul
road.
A
The
haul
roads
were
very
short
and
they
were
basically
getting
the
trees
to
the
river
and
stacking
them
up.
So
in
the
spring
they
get
rolled
into
the
water.
So
you've
got
that's
you
know.
So
now
you
got
your
ice
roads
done.
You
and
you're
cutting
trees,
so
you'd
work
six
days
a
week.
Your
day
would
start
at
about
maybe
4:30
in
the
morning
when
you
got
up
because
breakfast
was
at
5:00
and
by
5:30,
you
were
in
the
woods
and
two
men
with
a
crosscut
saw
at
that
time
could
cut
a
trunk
ten
feet.
A
And
then
you
had
other
guys
that
would
take
those
trees
and
cut
them
into
the
length
that
was
able
to
get
on
the
sled
basically,
and
they
would
slide
these
over
to
the
riverbank.
The
loaders
would
do
that
and
then
they
would
stack
them
up.
The
pilers
would
stack
up
these
trees
and
then
in
the
spring,
when
the
snows
melting
and
they
call
it
the
spring
rush.
When
all
that
waters
going
downstream,
they
start
throwing
the
logs
into
the
water
and
off
they
go.
So
these
guys
would
work
six
days.
A
The
seventh
day
was
the
day
of
rest.
Laundry
and
dancing.
I've
read
several
accounts.
Now
that
say,
the
top
job
in
a
lumber
camp
was
the
Fiddler's
because
they
all
danced
competitively,
so
they
would
draw
straws,
and
if
you
were
dancing
the
woman
side
of
a
partnership,
you
had
a
ribbon
that
you'd
tie
on
your
arm
and
the
men
would
dance
the
men's
side
of
the
partnership
and
they'd
the
Fiddler's
would
play.
A
Maybe
if
they
had
somebody
with
a
little
squeeze
box,
they'd
be
playing
and
they
would
dance
on
Sunday
and
then
that
would
this
became
a
competitive
thing
and
I'll
touch
on
dancing
later,
but
dancing
was
something
that
took
Sunday.
A
lot
of
these
guys
were
not
allowed
to
talk
to
each
other.
No
women
in
the
camp,
no
conversation
at
meals,
because
the
different
nationalities
start
showing
up
and
if
you
get
Germans
and
poles
and
they
realize
by
the
language
that
the
fights
would
start.
A
You
know
that
kind
of
thing,
so
they
they
couldn't
let
on
where
they
were
from.
Basically,
because
of
that,
so
these
guys
would
work
in
the
woods
all
winter
should
mention
to
Teamsters
horse
teams
to
haul
things.
It
was
quite
an
operation.
Let
me
give
you
what
and
then
fresh
food
is
being
brought
in
on
that
ice
road,
all
the
time
too.
A
You
wanted
their
feet
to
be
dry,
you
wanted
to
be
well-fed,
and
so
the
owners
provided
that.
So
these
guys
were
all
there
ready
to
go
and
they
ate
fabulous
food.
All
the
time
and
I'll
give
you
some
more
examples
as
we
go
here,
so
they
ate
real
well
and
the
most
important
job
in
those
camps
was
the
guy
that
kept
track
of
the
money,
because,
if
you're,
a
mill
owner
and
you're
cutting
trees,
all
winter
and
you're
paying
for
sharp
tools
and
you're
paying
for
food
and
everything
you're
paying
that
out
of
your
pocket.
A
So
your
most
trusted
person
was
the
person
the
scaler
who
was
measuring
the
logs.
That
was
the
most
honest
job
that
was
considered
because
they
they
were
keeping
track
of
how
much
money
would
be
coming
in,
but
it
would
be
months
before
that
actually
came
in,
so
they
would
cut
down
the
trees,
choppers
czars,
swampers,
skitters,
loaders
Teamsters
and
the
very
last
job
was
the
river
drivers.
A
So
in
the
spring,
when
all
these
trees
now
are
stacked
up
on
the
riverbank
along
the
cinema,
Wasi
the
pine,
the
tobacco,
all
these
that
feed
into
the
Saginaw
River
and
then
the
spring
rush
came
along.
They
start
putting
the
logs
in
the
water
and
they
would
go
downstream.
Now
you
knew
which
logs
were
yours,
because
you
put
a
log
mark
at
the
end
of
the
log,
which
was
a
hammer
kind
of
with
your
logo
on
and
they're
all
registered.
A
Nobody
was
faking
it
the
way
they
faked.
It
is.
If
you
came
in
from
New,
York
State
and
you
were
buying
land
in
Michigan
and
you
were
bought,
say
40
acres,
you
bought
what
was
called
the
round
40
and
it
wasn't
a
square
forty
acres.
It
was
around
40
acres,
which
means
it
was
really
50,
55,
60
acres
because
of
the
curves.
So
all
these
guys
were
buying
the
round
40
just
to
make
sure
they
got
their
trees,
men,
some
of
their
neighbors
too.
A
You
know
so
first-come,
first-serve
type
of
thing,
so
that
was
some
dishonesty
there,
but
it
did
happen
so
much
in
cutting
the
ends
of
logs
off
and
changing
the
mark.
Then
these
would
all
be
put
in
the
river
system
come
down.
The
rivers
and
there
were
all
100
mills
between
Saginaw
Bay
City.
Imagine
that
there
was
no
blank
property
on
either
side
of
the
river
for
20
miles.
A
All
camps
that
existed
until
Hubert
Hoover
was
the
president
and
they
were
called
Hoover
camps
during
the
Depression,
and
there
were
people
who
lived
on
the
river
and
tarpaper
shacks,
and
when
you
drive
on
River
Road,
you
could
still
see
some
remnants
of
those
platforms
on
the
other
side
of
the
river.
It
was
that
existed
until
the
Debrett,
the
end
of
the
depression.
A
A
Let
me
mention
that
a
little
bit
more,
the
technology,
that
kind
of
brought
the
end
of
the
logging
era
was
to
two
or
three
things,
and
they
were
local.
One
was
the
Wix
Corporation
in
saginaw,
you've
heard
of
Wix
well,
Wix
came
up
with
a
different
saw
blade
when
they
started
out.
There
was
a
saw
with
teeth,
and
but
there
wasn't
a
tooth
to
clean
the
kerf
out
now,
when
you
cut
wood
that
little
slot
of
wood,
that's
turning
into
sawdust
and
your
blade
is,
is
in
the
kerf.
A
That's
that
little
space
that
the
saw
makes
when
it
cuts
so
the
kerf
would
clog
up,
which
meant
when
you
were
signed,
your
saw
Woodbine
you'd
have
to
lift
it
out
clean.
The
kerf
put
it
back
in
start,
sawing
again,
Wix
invented
a
little
hook
in
the
blade
that
clean
the
curved.
So
every
pass
was
cleaning
the
kerf
out.
A
So
if
you
lost
your
life
in
the
mill
there
was
a
line
ready
to.
You
know
to
be
hired
to
replace
you,
and
so
it
was
a
sad
time.
So
wicks
comes
up
with
that,
but
you
remember
now,
where
we
got
this
big
rotary
blade
whose
spinnin
we
shovel
log
into
it
a
board
falls
off.
We
pull
the
log
all
the
way
back
readjust
it
push
it
through
the
blade
again
and
every
pass
you'd
cut
a
board.
Wix
came
up
with
what
was
called
the
bandsaw,
and
this
was
like
a
blade
that
was
smaller.
A
Like
a
band
saw
running
this
way
and
they
could
make
24
of
these
saws
next
to
each
other
in
bands,
so
they
would
push
the
log
through
one
time
and
it
would
cut
24:26
boards
would
fall
apart.
That
sped
things
up
getting
the
trees
out
of
the
woods.
Also
sped
up.
Remember
where
were
using
horses
to
drag
these
huge
logs
over
to
the
bank
of
the
river.
You
know
there
were
guys
that
that's
all
they
did
was
move
the
logs
from
where
they've
been
cut
to
the
bank
of
the
river.
A
A
lot
of
other
companies
I
mean
obviously,
wood
becomes
a
big
thing.
Locally
building
ships
becomes
big
locally,
but
one
of
the
other
things
was
the
boom
companies
a
boom.
The
oom
was
the
floating
Corral
that
logs
with
the
same
log
mark
would
be
put
in.
So
you
got
all
these
trees
in
the
woods
their
waters.
A
Rushing
out
you
roll
the
trees
in
some
of
this
during
flood
situation
frequently,
and
so
logs
would
float
away
into
the
woods
and
you
let
him
go
you
just
kind
of
let
them
go
and
you
kept
you
kept
your
logs
moving.
You
didn't
want
a
log
jam
when
everything
jams
up,
so
you
kept
them
moving
and
the
stuff
that
drifted
away
later.
They
would
come
back
and
a
lot
of
these
rivers.
They
make
an
artificial
dam
dam
up.
A
The
water
would
raise
the
water
these
logs
that
are
now
in
the
woods,
would
start
floating
again
and
they
push
them
back
and
get
them
in
the
river
and
they
send
them
on
their
way.
That
was
called
bringing
up
the
rear,
which
we
uses
a
phrase
nowadays,
but
that's
where
that
came
from
the
guys
that
clean
the
logs
out
of
the
woods
were
bringing
up
the
rear.
A
They
would
also
prepare
for
the
next
year,
so
they
would
know
okay,
we're
gonna
cut
these
trees,
we're
gonna
pile
them
here
on
the
river
and
they're
gonna
go
in
that
direction
and
you
would
clear
the
riverbanks
so
that
again,
then,
when
they
got
going,
there
was
nothing
for
those
logs
to
hang
up
on.
So
the
last
thing
you
do
in
the
woods
would
be
that
you
would
get
the
river
ready
for
the
next
season's
run
of
logs.
Now
it
was
all
called
bringing
up
the
rear.
A
Now
was
you
were
done
in
the
woods,
and
you
came
down
now
to
cut
the
logs.
The
boom
companies
kept
the
logs
separate.
The
tinabell
assi
boom
was
the
largest
of
all
the
boom
companies.
Their
books
are
at
the
Hoyt
library
and
they
have
huge
ledger
books
that
list
every
log
that
came
down
the
sag
in
our
river.
It's
just
amazing
to
read
this.
A
It's
also
interesting
to
go
to
the
bay
County
line
and
read
the
bridge
tender
records
of
number
of
times
the
bridges
opened
and
because
now
consider
a
rowboat
or
a
canoe
or
something
short
gets
underneath
the
bridge,
but
the
times
they
had
to
open
the
bridges
and
it
was
hundreds
of
times
a
day.
The
river
was
incredibly
busy
yeah.
It's
an
amazing
thing
to
read
at
that
time
how
many
people
were
we're
using
the
river?
Our
population
grows.
A
A
There
were
dead,
heads
you'd,
get
a
log
that
would
be
waterlogged
and
would
float
with
just
one
end
of
it
out
of
the
water.
Didn't
float
like
this
floated
like
this,
and
those
were
called
dead.
Heads
cuz
it
looked
like
I
had
in
the
water,
so
dead
heads
were
collected
and
auctioned
off
at
the
end
of
the
drive.
Any
logs
that
didn't
have
a
log
mark
were
auctioned
off.
A
So
if
you
were
a
mill
owner
and
you
had
contracts
to
provide
so
much
wood
to
somebody
out
east-
and
you
didn't
have
enough
of
your
own
trees,
you
could
go
to
this
auction
and
if
the
price
was
right,
you
could
buy
more
trees
to
mill
and
meet
your
quota,
getting
the
trees
out
of
the
woods
that
technology
changes
too
over
time.
Are
you
familiar
with
the
big
wheels?
They
had
a
big
wheel
outside
a
restaurant
and
grayling
for
a
long
time.
A
There's
a
big
wheel
at
Hartwick,
Pines,
there's
a
big
wheel
that
was
was
built.
It's
a
replica,
it's
at
the
Museum
in
Sanford.
These
were
huge,
I
mean
they
wouldn't
fit
in
this
room,
big
gigantic
wheels
with
a
big
tongue
on
it,
and
they
would
back
these
wheels
two
big
wheels
up
over
a
log
put
a
chain
around
it
pull
that
tongue
down.
It
would
lift
the
log
up
under
the
wheels
then
they
would,
with
horses
on
the
they
were
attached
horses
to
the
tongue
and
they
could
pull
this
log
out
of
the
woods.
A
Didn't
need
water
didn't
need
the
snow,
didn't
need
the
ice
needed
your
big
wheel.
So
that's
bent
things
up
because
now
you're
cutting
trees
year-round,
you
don't
have
to
do
it
just
during
the
winter,
like
you
did
at
first,
that's
sped
everything
up.
So
the
difference
in
saws,
the
difference
in
the
bandsaw,
the
big
wheels
and
the
big
wheels
later,
the
narrow
gauge
railroad
gets
invented,
and
these
were
tracks
there
were
this
far
apart.
Instead
of
your
standard,
gauge
tracks
were
smaller
and
there
were
just
no
small
train.
A
Would
you
know,
have
logs
cars
behind
it
and
they
would
pull
those
out
of
the
woods
and
the
tracks
were
frequently
wooden,
so
when
they
were
done,
they
could
move
them.
They
could
just
lift
them
up
and
move
them.
There's
a
story
I
think
it's
Hubbard.
Anybody
familiar
with
Hubbard
up
north,
his
little
town
called
Hubbard.
Had
the
railroad
coming
through
everybody
thought:
hey
we're.
We
got
a
maid
now,
because
the
railroad
is
coming
right
through
their
town.
Well,
in
the
middle
of
the
night,
the
neighboring
town,
they
wanted
their
railroad,
so
they
came
over.
A
A
This
was
written
in
1885
in
an
article
in
Chicago
about
among
the
Michigan
Pines
was
the
name
of
the
article
and
the
author
writes
the
amount
of
work
that
a
man
could
do
in
the
woods
will
depend
on
the
amount
of
food
that
he
could
digest
when
it's
necessary
to
keep
them
in
good
condition.
These
lumber
men
are
physically
strong,
but
only
such
can
endure
the
work.
Our
fifty-five
men
have
consumed
twenty
weeks,
the
following
quantities
of
first-class
provisions.
So
this
is
55
men.
A
A
We
needed
a
pie.
Shell.
Of
course,
vineyard
pie
was
a
half
a
cup
of
white
sugar,
half
a
cup
of
brown
sugar,
1/4
cup
of
flour,
a
little
bit
of
nutmeg
to
taste,
a
dash
of
butter,
2
eggs,
2
teaspoons
of
vinegar
in
a
cup
of
water.
So
it
wasn't.
There
was
only
2
teaspoons
of
vinegar,
but
it
was
called
vinegar
pie
and
they
tried
all
kinds
of
different
vinegars.
It
says
here,
distilled
white
vinegar
may
give
the
pie
a
taste
similar
to
pecan
pie
filling
while
apple
cider
vinegar
gives
it
an
apple
taste.
A
A
A
So
there
were
newspapers
here,
and
it
was
quite
a
sophisticated
population
and
one
of
the
newspapers,
the
lumberman's
Gazette
sent
in
a
reporter
out
in
1886
to
look
at
this
place,
base
city
and
see
what
it's
about
now
remember.
At
that
time,
base
city
was
the
east
side
of
the
river.
The
west
side
of
the
river
was
a
completely
other
community.
A
They
didn't
merge
till
1905,
so
we're
talking
about
two
towns
here
so
later,
I
going
to
give
you
some
numbers,
it's
East,
Side,
West
Side
is
a
different
thing,
but
somebody
comes
into
town
and-
and
first
thing
he
writes
about-
is
how
he
can't
figure
out
why
the
side,
through
the
lens
of
sidewalks,
it
was
wooden
planks
sidewalks.
Why
they're
so
chewed
up
and
torn
up
when
the
wood
on
the
side
of
a
building
was
just
fine?
A
Why
was
why
was
this
surface
all
ripped
up
and
it
was
because
these
guys
were
wearing
spiked
boots
caulks
they
were
called
and
a
caulk
was
the
spike,
like
think
of
a
golf
shoe
or
an
athletic
shoe,
and
then
we're
for
running
on
logs.
So
you
could
keep
your
even
not
slip
off
so
they
had
the
caulks
and
that
shoe,
of
course,
chewed
it
up
on
the
west
side.
I
think
it's
wholesale
electric
is
in
the
building.
That
was
the
city
hall
for
the
west
side,
which
was
called
West
base.
A
City
at
one
time,
the
east
side
was
called
lower.
Saginaw,
you
imagine
how
that
went
over.
So
this
is
what
this
author
wrote.
Basie
is
a
surprise
to
the
stranger
from
the
East
is
much
larger
and
more
important
than
one
expects
to
find.
The
streets
are
wide,
with
many
blocks
of
fine
stores,
well
filled
with
the
merchandise
of
the
best
quality.
There
are
many
stores
here
that
do
credit
to
the
best
business
streets
in
the
most
prosperous
cities
to
the
east.
A
So
there
was
money
here
there
was
I,
don't
want
to
say
high
society,
but
women
dressed
in
finery
men
dressed
up.
It
was
a.
This
was
a
very
wealthy
of
fluent
community
because
of
lumber,
and
the
article
goes
on
to
talk
about
all
the
things
he
found.
I
mentioned
the
website
that
I
got
kind
of
sidetracked,
but
the
thing
about
the
West,
Side
and
wholesale
electric
is.
A
A
Can
you
imagine
that,
sometimes,
when
I
do
this
talk
about
bringing
along
some
logging
tools
and
they're
heavy
I
mean
there's
you
know,
Pike,
poles
and
Peavey's
and
stuff
are
heavy
tools,
and
you
think
these
guys
work
and
carrying
this
stuff
all
day
worked
real
hard
and
it
got
to
the
point
where
they
wanted
to
work
a
10-hour
day,
we'll
take
the
same.
Pay
will
still
work
six
hours
six
days
a
week.
A
We
just
want
to
work
ten
hours
instead
of
twelve
and
they
call
this
10
hours
or
no
sawdust,
and
they
went
on
strike
here
in
Bay
City.
It
started
on
the
west
side
in
the
sage
sage,
mill,
July,
6
1885,
so
we're
not
at
the
peak
of
the
lumber
era
yet,
but
they
all
walk
out
and
they
try
to
stretch
stretch
this
strike
down
the
river
to
Saginaw
and
it
got
so
tense
that
the
governor,
a
racial
Alger
calls
in
the
state
militia
to
form
a
line,
and
so
in
base
city.
A
They
put
a
train
together.
It
was
all
the
strikers
on
flatcars
and
they
took
this
train
to
Saginaw
and
the
state
militia
turned
the
train
around,
so
the
strike
never
spread
into
Saginaw
the
other
thing.
It
was
very
late
in
the
in
the
mill
year,
so
they
didn't
have
a
lot
of
you
know
there.
There
wasn't
a
lot
of
wood
yet
to
cut
sage
right
away.
Called
I
mean
they
all
have.
Company
stores
live
in
company-owned
housing.
He
immediately
called
the
rents.
Do
any
bills
they
had
at
this
company
store
had
to
be
paid.
A
He
really
put
the
screws
on
him
and
they
eventually
the
strike
fails.
This
is
considered
the
first
organized
labor
action
in
the
United
States.
It
predates
the
Shirtwaist
the
shirt
factories
in
New
York
shoe
factories
in
Lynn
Massachusetts.
It
goes
way
back.
We
also
and
I'll
digress.
Here
we
were
one
of
the
very
first
places
to
have
a
local
ordinance
against
child
labor
in
base
city,
and
was
kit
came
from
the
construction
of
City
Hall
when
Robbie
Waldo
in
1897
fell
and
was
killed,
and
he
did
a
I'll.
A
Tell
you
the
story
here:
real
quick,
they're
building,
City
Hall.
He
falls
from
the
roof
he's
ten
years
old
week,
shy
of
his
11th
birthday
he's
dead
when
he
hits
the
ground
he'd.
His
dad
worked
at
the
City
Hall
Robbie
had
a
job
supposedly
and
he
would
carry
the
roof
tiles
to
the
roof
of
City
Hall
up
80
feet
of
ladder.
A
Imagine
being
10
years
old,
8
pound
tile,
carrying
it
up,
80
feet
given
to
a
guy
who
would
put
it
on
the
roof
and
the
back
of
the
tile
had
two
wires
out
of
it
and
the
guy
had
a
tool,
and
he
put
it
on
the
wires
and
he
twists
him
around
a
little
board
and
that
would
hold
the
tile
on
then
he'd
take
the
next
one.
You
know
and
just
keep
doing,
that
when
Robbie
Waldo's
body
was
found.
A
He
had
one
of
those
hammers
in
his
hand,
so
they
knew
he
was
doing
more
than
carrying
stuff
up.
He
was
actually
attaching
these
and
child
labor
was
already
something
that
bothered
a
lot
of
people
in
Bay
City
because
of
coal
mining.
As
many
of
you
know,
we
had
a
big
coal
mining
industry
here
at
one
time
in
Bay
City,
and
they
made
all
the
shafts
small,
because
it
was
boys
that
were
working
in
the
shafts.
A
Now
a
man
couldn't
work
in
him
because
you'd
have
to
bend
over,
but
a
boy
could
walk
through
these
shafts
and
that
that
continued
until
the
railroad
industry
could
be
bringing
in
cheaper
and
better
coal
and
that
ended
the
local
coal
business.
So
it
was
already
known
about
this.
Robbie
waldo
falls
on
a
friday.
The
coroner's
inquest
is
on
saturday.
He
determines
that
yeah.
He
had
this
hammer
in
his
hand.
He
was
killed
during
this
work
accident.
A
Everybody
gets
upset
Sunday
morning,
all
the
preachers
in
town,
all
the
churches
they're
preaching
what
had
happened
and
that
Robbie
Waldo
the
way
he
had
died-
and
we
should
do
something
about
that.
So
that's
Sunday
Monday,
the
City
Council.
It
wasn't
a
commission
at
that
time.
They
called
the
City
Council
City
Council
meets
and
they
pass
an
ordinance
unanimously.
That
basically
says
can't
be
hired
to
do
a
man's
job,
and
that
was
the
the
premise
of
it
and
when
that
happened,
of
course,.
A
Yeah
so
he
falls
on
Monday.
They
passed
the
ordinance
that
outlaws
child
labor
and
basic
first
ordinance
of
the
United
States
to
address
child
labor.
So
it
became
a
big
thing.
So
back
up
strike
of
ten
hours
or
no
straw
up
dust.
There
were
two
thousand
men
who
rallied
on
that
train
on
the
ninth
to
try
to
get
to
Saginaw,
but
the
militia
came
in
on
the
ninth
the
governor
also
came
in
and
because
it
was
late
in
the
season
there
was
a
lot
of
pressure.
A
They
couldn't
strike
the
they
couldn't
spread
the
strike,
but
it
is
considered
the
first
labor
action
and
there's
a
historical
marker
in
Winona
Park
to
talk
about
that.
A
couple
other
things
that
happened
at
that
time.
You
know
how
we
all
get
paid
on
Friday.
At
that
time
the
lumber
industry
paid
on
Saturday,
which
means
on
Saturday.
We
would
get
your
money,
which
means
within
a
couple
hours,
you
were
dead
drunk,
so
you
were
drunk
on
Saturday.
You
were
drunk
on
Sunday
Monday,
you
called
in
hungover,
and
so
you
know
you
didn't
call
it.
A
You
just
didn't
show
up
for
work.
So
that
was
a
big
problem,
so
they
move
pay
day
to
Friday,
because
you'd
sober
up
by
Sunday
you'd
be
out
of
money
by
Monday.
You
can
go
back
to
work
because
you
needed
more
money.
That's
why
we
get
paid
on
Fridays
is
because
the
lumber
industry
moved
pay
day
from
Saturday
to
Friday,
so
I
always
thought
that
was
interesting,
so
we're
in
the
1850s,
1860
and
I
want
to
talk
just
a
second
here
about
base
city
itself
and
I
mentioned.
A
This
was
the
treaty
that
traded
Indian
land
roughly
from
the
Ohio
border,
all
the
way
up
to
mile
Upton
that
area,
all
that
was
exchanged
for
a
canoe,
a
gun,
a
couple
bottles
of
bourbon
and
some
trade
beads.
It
wasn't
a
real
good
deal,
but
that's
that
was
the
big
treaty
in
1819.
So
John
Wiley
was
the
guy.
Who
was
the
translator?
He
was
a
local
man
and
he
could
he
was
he
dealt
with
the
Indians.
He
could
speak
their
language.
He
becomes
important
in
the
negotiations
and
afterwards
they
give
him.
A
A
The
other
side
of
the
river
had
Salzburg
Winona
banks
separate
little
communities.
Banks
by
the
way
was
not
the
river
banks.
Banks
was
a
Civil
War
general,
so
they
he
gets
the
640
acres
of
land,
James
Frazer.
You
might
remember
that
name.
He
gets
11
investors
together,
including
Stephen
T
Mason,
who
was
the
governor
of
the
state
of
Michigan,
and
they
formed
the
Saginaw
Bay
Company.
A
They
buy
half
of
Riley's
reservation
for
$30,000
and
they
Platt
it
out
on
paper
and
they
called
the
town
lower
Saginaw,
Judge,
Albert
Miller
would
buy
land
from
the
Trombley
brothers.
He
laid
out
the
village
of
Portsmouth
just
to
the
south,
both
Miller
and
the
Saginaw
Bay
Company
were
offering
lots
for
sale
in
Detroit.
Then,
within
a
few
months,
they'd
sold
some.
There
were
a
half-dozen
Hoffs
houses
here,
the
globe
hotel,
a
dock,
a
warehouse
in
a
wildcat
bank.
A
So
they
had
this
paper
village
to
speed
this
story.
Up
in
1836
we
become
a
state
in
1837.
We
go
bankrupt
as
a
state
and
michigan
goes
into
a
ten-year
depression.
I
mean
we
become
a
state
and
for
10
years
nothing
happens
because
we
have
no
money
for
the
state
of
Michigan.
There
are
no
employees
there's
a
governor,
not
a
lot
is
happening,
but
Bay
City
in
three
years.
A
There's
this
ten-year
depression,
but
three
years
later,
Bay
City,
we
vigor
Eights
itself
and
these
the
Wildcat
banks
get
closed
by
the
state
that
ends
the
the
stump
Bank.
That
sort
of
thing
Frasier's
group
couldn't
sell
very
much
land
because
of
the
financial
climate,
but
Bernie
and
Fitzhugh
joined
up
with
Frazier
and
they
restarted.
They
called
the
Saginaw
Bay
land
company.
They
drew
new
plans,
they
called
the
community
lower
Saginaw
and
they
made
plans
for
a
new
Community.
A
Battery
Park
comes
into
being
at
that
time
on
Washington
Avenue
every
block
had
a
free
lot
on
that
block
that
was
given
to
a
local
church.
So
all
the
churches
at
first
were
little
buildings
along
Washington
Avenue.
Then,
of
course
you
know
the
members
of
First
Presbyterian
Church
decide
to
invest
a
lot
of
money
in
the
community
and
built
Trinity.
Episcopal
st.
stand
all
these
other
churches,
but
they
all
were
kind
of
on
Washington
Avenue
at
first,
because
that
was
the
Main
Street
Washington
Center
there
was.
It
was
woods,
you
know
some
you
get!
A
So
by
1846,
there's
a
post
office
here,
there's
a
new
school
first
sawmill
comes
in
1847
judge
Miller
by
the
way
has
the
first
steam
operated
sawmill
and
he
puts
that
in
at
the
foot
of
6th
Street,
roughly
where
the
Double
Tree
Hotel
is
was
Judge
Miller's
sawmill,
they
still
struggle
to
grow.
There
were
about
a
hundred
and
thirty
people
here,
Henry
Sage
moves
here
starts
buying
trees
and
land
builds
the
biggest
mill
in
the
world
and
by
1854
there's
eleven
sawmills.
A
A
35,000
people
living
in
base
city,
east
side
of
the
river
west
side
of
the
river
had
another
15,000.
So
that's
where
we're
at
under
50,000
people,
then
it
becomes
a
political
story.
It's
always
fun
to
tell
people
this,
because
you
I
had
no
idea.
1857
Bay
County
separates
from
Saginaw
Midland
County
and
Bernie
who's.
A
key
player
in
all
this
gets
the
state
legislature
to
rename
lower
Saginaw
as
the
village
a
base
city,
even
though
it
wasn't
incorporated
as
a
village.
Yet
he
wanted
to
change
the
name.
A
A
Do
people
want
to
Saginaw
County
went
all
the
way
to
Alpena
and
they
had
all
the
control.
Saginaw
had
the
courts.
So
if
you
lived
in,
what's
going
to
become
Dave,
City
and
you've
got
to
go
to
court
to
buy
a
piece
of
land
to
do
a
title
transfer.
Something
like
that.
You
had
to
go
to
the
court
in
Saginaw.
Saginaw
did
not
they
wanted
that
business
I
mean
it.
Took
you
a
day
to
get
to
Saginaw
you
had
to
eat
a
meal.
A
You
had
to
spend
the
night
in
a
hotel,
eat
breakfast
go
to
court.
Do
your
business
by
the
time
you
got
out
of
court.
You
bought
another
meal
stated
another
night
at
the
hotel,
came
back
to
base
city
by
horse
around
the
river.
So
you
can
see
it
was
a
lot
of
money
and
Saginaw
did
not
want
to
get
that
up.
So
Saginaw
says:
okay,
if
you
become
a
state,
we
got
to
have
an
election
and
vote
on
whether
you're
gonna
become
a
county
or
not
or
stay
Saginaw
County.
A
This
becomes
a
big
deal
because
they
go
to
court
to
decide.
Is
it
just
the
people
that
live
in
the
property?
That's
going
to
become
Bay
County
that
vote
or
does
everybody
vote,
and
the
judge
rule
is
just
the
people
that
are
going
to
be
in
the
new
Bay
County
that
vote
and,
of
course
the
the
election
was
very
much
in
favor
of
forming
Bay
County
and
it
did
what
people
don't
know
is.
The
judge
was
the
attorney
that
wrote
the
law,
so
he
writes
his
law
on
how
the
vote
should
take
place,
gets
appointed.
A
All
of
this
is
illegal
because
Michigan
was
a
drive
state
at
that
point,
but
you
think
of
these
guys
they're
getting
paid
one
time
in
the
woods
up
north
and
they
get
maybe
six
seven
hundred
dollars
at
that
time.
That
was
a
lot
of
money.
It
is
today
they
get
this
money,
they
would
get
on
the
train,
they
would
buy
what
was
called
the
ticket
to
hell
and
they
would
and
the
conductor
would
sell
him
some
hooch.
You
know
bad
booze
and
an
exorbitant
price
because
these
guys
had
not
had
anything
to
drink.
A
So
by
the
time
the
train
gets
to
Bay
City.
A
lot
of
the
windows
would
be
broken
out
on
the
cars.
These
guys
that
drank
on
all
these
bottles
they're
drunk,
and
they
got
all
this
cash
in
their
pocket.
They
come
spilling
out
of
the
train
station
on
Adams
Street
and
right
into
what
becomes
known
as
hell's
half
mile
booze
women
gambling
get
that
money.
That
was
that
was
the
name
of
the
game.
A
I
I
want
to
just
let
you
know
that
hell's
half
mile,
although
it's
got
all
this
stories
to
it,
it
was
of
the
in
Hall
base
city.
Much
of
Bay
City
is
like
that
account
that
I
read
to
you
in
the
newspaper
of
sophisticated
expensive
place,
that's
growing
and
has
all
this
industry
here,
and
it
was
a
place
to
be.
But
at
that
time
that
was
not
the
couple
blocks
to
be
at
roughly
ran
from
third
Street
down
to
Center.
A
Let
me
give
you
some
names.
These
are
the
women
that
that
worked
downtown
pretty
dead.
They
were
called
the
Belles
of
Water
Street
in
Saginaw.
Here
they
just
call
them
pretty
dancing:
girls,
Canada
em,
Emily
Baldwin.
She
may
be
the
ghost
that
is
at
Old
City
Hall,
Emeline,
Baldwin,
Polly,
Dixon
patty,
the
pig
any
cup
o
tea,
morphine
Lou,
kissing,
Jenny,
paddy
the
Packer,
mags,
nay,
yeah,
all
reputable
women.
A
A
The
red
light
was
that
forth
between
Saginaw
and
water,
the
blood
tub,
the
blood
top
was
on
Garfield
and
12th.
Jorge
cooks
becomes,
famous,
George,
cooks
was
at
third
and
Saginaw
Street
and
I
mentioned
dancing
earlier.
Supposedly,
the
story
is
that
George
cooks,
the
dance
hall,
was
on
the
second
floor
and
all
these
guys
are
dancing
and
going
up
and
down,
and
they
actually
broke
the
floor
and
fall
through
into
the
bar
below.
Apparently
they
never
stopped
the
music
and
the
guys
that
didn't
fall,
kept
dancing.
A
A
Other
notables
from
this
part
of
the
state
you
had
patty
the
Racker
guzzling
grant
Jacobs
found
out
the
guzzling
grant.
Jacobs
was
later
arrested
for
murder
and
let
loose
and
Patty
the
dog
patty
had
pit
bulls
and
he
would
go
into
a
bar
collect
money,
and
then
he
would
fight
his
dogs
for
sport
and
and
and
of
course,
make
the
money
from
it.
A
And
that
was
a
common
thing
you
had
in
Pitt
County
and
a
couple
brothers
that
went
around
with
a
bear
and
they
would
collect
money
and
then
they
would
wrestle
their
bear
in
your
bar.
You
know
for
drinks,
that
kind
of
thing
so
and
rat
baiting.
All
those
were
kind
of
I
I
guess
they
get
called
blood
sports,
but
those
were
all
big
during
the
0-2,
so
the
catacombs
were
considered
the
worst
spot.
With
a
worse
spot.
We
used
to
think
the
catacombs
referred
to
that
area
that
becomes
Health's
half
mile
helps.
A
Half
mile
was
in
the
1950s
newspaper.
Man
came
up
with
that
name,
so
we
call
it
Hell's
half
mile,
but
they
didn't
during
the
lumber
year,
I
call
it
Hell's
half
mile,
they
call
it.
The
catacombs-
and
we
thought
that
meant
an
underground
town,
but
no
I'm,
told
by
Steve
and
Keith
at
st.
Lorentz
that
the
catacombs
was
the
bar
in
the
basement
and
it
was
called
the
catacombs
and
then
they
had
retail
and
then
hotel
above
and
so
st.
A
Polly
Dixon
was
the
madam.
For
there
she
dies
a
typhoid
fever.
It's
thought
that
between
Bay
City
and
Saginaw,
there
were
about
fourteen
hundred
prostitutes
at
that
time
and
the
proprietors
by
the
way
of
the
European
Hotel,
we
know
their
names
bill,
fuller,
Joe,
Sutherland,
Bill,
Brown
and
Scotty
somebody
names
Scotty,.
A
I'm
gonna
go
back
to
the
lumber
drive
now
and
the
the
most
important
part
of
it
and
that's
the
river
drive.
It
was
considered
to
be
the
most
dangerous
job
in
America.
These
were
the
guys
young
guys
that
would
go
with
the
logs
down.
The
river
would
follow
them
along
if
they
get
hung
up.
It
was
their
job
to
free
the
log
jam
and
keep
those
logs
going
downstream
to
the
to
the
mills.
So
they
were
young
men
because
you
didn't
live
long
with
that
job.
A
So
so
this
hell's
half
mile
debauchery
period
kind
of
comes
to
an
end
because
of
the
temperance
movement
and
I'll
get
back
to
them.
In
a
minute.
The
other
people
that
were
notable
in
Bay
City
were
Vincent
joe
fornear
Vincent
Joe
Forney
was
a
real
tall.
Man
I
think
he
was
six
seven
I'm,
five,
seven,
so
a
foot
taller
than
me,
big
burly
guy
people
did
not
like
Vincent
Joe,
for
he
was
so
mean
and
he
would
fight
anybody
for
king
of
the
hill
type
bragging.
A
Rights
for
near
was
unique
because
he
had
a
double
role
of
teeth.
He
had
two
sets
of
molars,
so
he
had
as
a
child
teeth.
Doll
teeth
came
in
pushed
out
the
child
teeth,
and
then
he
had
a
second
row
of
adult
teeth
come
in
and
because
they
couldn't
push
out
the
first
ones
they
slid
up
along
the
side
of
the
existing
teeth,
so
he
had
on
his
mandible
the
jawbone
double
row
of
teeth
along
the
bottom.
A
So
supposedly
he
could
walk
up
to
a
bar
and
he'd
take
a
bite
out
of
it,
get
out
the
splitters
and
say
I'm
Vincent
joe
fornear,
that
dare
my
mark
put
him
up.
You
know
once
the
fight.
You
know
that
kind
of
thing
he
had
these
on
remember
were
the
shoes
with
the
spikes
and
he
could
jump
in
the
air
and
stick
those
in
the
ceiling
and
dangled
upside
down.
There
are
all
these
stories
about
fornear.
A
There
are
authors
that
have
made
the
connection
by
going
through
the
hotel
registers
of
that
time
of
a
city
and
have
found
the
man
who
wrote
the
original,
Paul
Bunyan
story,
and
they
put
together
a
theory
that
this
guy
comes
to
the
the
logging
ear
area
and
goes
around
to
bars
to
say
he
can
you
tell
me
anything
about?
You
know
something
larger
than
life
and
he
heard
about
foreigner
and
that
later
becomes
part
of
the
Paul
Bunyan
mythology.
A
Now
Midland
had
a
guy
to
silver,
Jack,
Driscoll
and
Driscoll
is
an
interesting
guy.
Oh,
let
me
finish
up
on
the
jawbone
thing.
My
dentist
I
asked.
My
dentist,
of
course.
Can
this
happen?
I
never
heard
of
it
before,
and
he
said,
yeah
there's
about
and
I
can't
remember.
It
was
like
1%
of
babies
born
in
the
United.
States
are
going
to
develop
the
second
row
of
teeth
and
they
know
that
right
away
and
they
they
take
care
of
that
and
the
kid
grows
up
normal
teeth.
Never
knows
anything
about
that,
and
that
happens.
A
So
it's
very
possible
that
foreigner
did
have
that
row
of
teeth
and
supposedly
after
his
death
he's
killed
by
out
Dolphus
blinky
Robertson
on
the
dock.
That
was
roughly
where
third
Street
bridges
blinky
Robertson,
so
they
questioned
blinky.
He
said
he
did
it.
There
were
witnesses,
they
never
arrested
him.
He
was
never
charged,
that's
where
they
thought
a
foreigner
in
the
community
with
them.
The
murderer
walks
away
kind
of
so.
A
And
just
silver
Jack
Driscoll
Driscoll
was
described
as
tall
strongly
built,
hair,
mustache
and
eyebrows
the
color
of
flax.
So
it
was
blond.
He
was
a
first
class
woodsman
until
he
had
a
drink
and
then
he
was,
we
quote,
was
all
Hades
let
out
at
noon.
That
was
his
personality.
He
came
from
Lindsay
Ontario
in
1869
by.
A
He
serves
a
time
here
that
I'll
tell
you
about
in
a
moment,
but
by
1872
he's
arrested
in
East
Saginaw
for
what
was
called
highway
robbery
and
highway
robbery
was
any
crime
you
did
on
the
street
like
if
you
held
somebody
up
that
was
highway
robbery,
so
he
ended.
That
was
like
you
got
five
years
for
every
dollar
that
you
got
so
he
gets
five
bucks
and
they
give
him
five
years
and
he
serves
his
time
in
1872.
A
He
returns
to
East
Saginaw.
What
does
any
guy
that
gets
out
of
prison
do
when
he
returns
to
Saginaw
that
year
he
opened
up
a
saloon
by
1881
he's
arrested
again
for
highway
robbery.
Three
dollar
holdup
of
a
man
on
he'll
appear
street
and
he
serves
another
three
years
because
of
the
record.
He
got
the
maximum
15
years.
$5.00.
A
I'm,
getting
close
to
my
end
here
and
I
want
to
wrap
this
up
by
talking
to
you
about
a
book
by
a
guy
named
John
fitzmorris
fitzmorris
writes
a
book
in
1886
about
everything.
I've
been
telling
you
about
the
the
lumber
camps
and
that
sort
of
thing
he
he
had
an
interesting
background.
Fitzmorris
had
been
a
newspaper,
man
ran
into
alcohol.
Problems,
tries
to
get
himself
straight
by
becoming
a
temperance
speaker,
can't
make
any
money
doing
that
and
can't
support
himself.
A
So
he
starts
writing
for
the
lumberman's
Gazette
and
these
smaller
newspapers
that
describe
the
era
and
he
writes
a
book.
He
gets
hired
by
the
Sisters
of
Charity
who
become
the
sisters
of
mercy
who
become
the
nurses
at
st.
Mary's
Hospital
in
Saginaw,
and
they
were
the
first
people
in
this
in
the
country
to
sell
you
a
certificate
that
was
basically
health
insurance.
A
So
if
you
were
working
in
a
lumber
camp,
you
bought
the
certificate
and
if
you
got
hurt-
and
you
could
get
what's
now-
Saint
Mary's
Hospital,
the
Sisters
of
Charity-
would
take
care
of
you
because
you
had
bought
this
little
insurance
policy
and
you
could
add
your
insurance,
because
at
that
time
imagine
this.
If
your
insurance,
you
gambled
on
the
severity
of
how
sick
you
were.
A
So
if
you
thought
well,
I'm
young
I'm
not
going
to
be
too
sick,
I'm
only
gonna
get
a
little
bit
of
insurance,
but
if
you
were
older
and
you've
seen
men
around
you
get
hurt
or
die,
you
bought
more
insurance
and
because
you
could
buy
it
and
add
to
your
insurance
and
and
you
cashed
in
your
insurance
by
oh,
you
get
a
week
in
the
hospital
or
you
get
two
weeks
in
the
hospital.
You
know
you
want
it
by
time.
A
You
could
buy
more,
and
so
fitzmorris
gets
the
job
of
going
through
some
four
hundred
lumber
camps
selling
certificates
to
lumbermen.
So
it
was
real
popular.
They
all
wanted
to
see
them.
They
all
wanted
to
increase
their
insurance.
You
think
of
it.
He's
been
visiting
all
the
lumber
camps,
he
knows
the
stories
you
know
he's.
He
could
tell
you
they'd
all,
ask
him
hey
what
happened.
We
heard
that
somebody
was
killed
in
the
woods
over
by
mile.
A
A
A
Silver
Jack
Driscoll
had
witnessed
a
tragedy
that
happened
on
the
river
that
led
to
the
lone
pine
and
and
what
happened
this
could
be
a
movie
actually
guy
from
Bay
City
Charlie
Monroe
Charlie
Monroe
was
about
26
years
old.
He
was
the
river
boss.
He
was
the
river
foreman
for
one
of
the
large
mills.
He
was
well-liked.
Young
man
strong
was
married.
Although
her
parents
did
not
want
their
daughter
to
marry
a
river
man
because
he
wouldn't
live
very
long,
he's
gonna
die.
Why
would
you
marry
him
kind
of
thing
they
get
married
in
secret?
A
So
silver
Jack
Driscoll
gets
a
job
working
for
Charlie
Monroe
on
his
crew
of
men
he's
about
probably
16
or
17.
This
is
before
his
arrests
for
highway
robbery
and
he
was
new
in
the
woods
and
one
morning,
Charlie
Monroe
goes
to
his
men
and
say:
we've
got
this
log
jam
on
the
river
two
million
logs
a
jam
2
miles
long
I
need
men
to
go
out
and
clear
it
and
they
got
to
do
it.
On
a
Sunday,
I
told
you
about
Sunday.
There
were
a
lot
of
superstition.
A
A
Yeah
they
had
a
big
rush
there
about
two
million
logs
to
be
put
in
the
river.
This
whole
Drive
was
about
sixty
days,
putting
trees
in
the
river
to
bring
him
down
stream
and
they
Jam
it
up
about
two
miles
long
and
it
was
15
to
16
tiers
high.
Not
if
you
got
logs
you
put
more
logs
on
them
and
more
logs.
Each
one
is
a
tier,
so
you
think
of
fifteen
or
sixteen
tiers.
A
A
So
the
jam
goes,
all
of
them
are
swept
away
to
their
deaths,
including
Charlie,
silver
Jack
Driscoll,
because
he's
new
on
the
crew
was
not
all
the
way
out
on
the
logs
on
the
river.
Yet
he
was
by
the
bank
of
the
river
he's
the
only
one
that
survives.
He
tells
his
story
directly
to
this
author
to
write
it
down
and
he
puts
it
in
the
book
exactly
what
happened
that
day
as
this
all,
as
they
are
all
washed
away,
everybody's
killed,
except
Jack
Driscoll,
he
was
inexperienced
compared
to
the
others.
A
They've
they
find
the
body
they
bring
it
back
to
the
camp.
They
have
the
body
laying
on
the
mess
hall
table
and
in
the
door
comes
his
wife.
She
has
come
up
on
the
ice
road
with
the
food
and
she
was
just
coming
up
to
surprise
her
husband
and
see
him
walks
in
to
find
that
he's
dead.
So
you
can
imagine
the
tragedy
of
this,
and
this
becomes
known
as
the
story
of
the
lone
pine
and
they're
all
buried
together
under
this
lone
pine.
A
Some
years
later,
there's
a
guy
I
find
by
the
name
of
Dan
culligan
who
lives
in
Roscommon,
and
he
writes
this
into
a
song
and
I
find
later
I
googled
the
song
and
find
all
these
recordings
of
it
and
during
the
50s
it
was
very
popular,
very
popular
song
and
would
seem
strange,
but
the
weavers
some
of
you
may
remember
the
weavers.
They
were
the
big
folk
group,
but
they
sang
it.
They
had
a
hit
in
America
a
record
of
this
song
that
was
written
in
Roscommon
about
this
event.
A
Now
there's
a
couple
things
changed
in
the
song:
they
moved
it
to
the
tittle
Wasi
river
from
the
augray
and
they
called
the
song.
The
jam
on
Jerry's
Rock
Jerry's
Rock
was
a
big
rock
in
the
tin
of
a
Wasi
that
always
hung
logs
up
on
it,
and
you
know
so.
There
was
a
place
that
people
knew
there
were
always
log
jams,
but
so
he,
the
author,
moves
the
log
jam
to
there.
So
here's
this
song
and
I'll
end
here:
I'm,
not
gonna
sing.
A
It
aren't
you
lucky,
come
all
you
trueborn
shanty
boys,
wherever
you
may
be,
come
sit
ye
on
the
deccan
seat
and
listen
on
to
me.
I'll
sing
the
jam
on
Jerry's
rock
and
a
hero.
You
should
know
the
bravest
of
all
the
shanty
boys,
the
foreman
young
Munroe
clothes
on
a
Sunday
morning.
Dare
air
daylight
did
appear,
the
logs
were
piling
mountain
high.
We
could
not
keep
them
clear.
Cheer
up
cheer
up.
My
river
men
relieve
your
hearts
of
wall
will
break
the
jam
on
Jerry's
rock,
cried
out
our
foreman
young
Munroe.
A
Now
some
of
them
are
willing.
Others
hid
from
sight
to
break
a
jam
on
Sunday.
They
did
not
think
was
right
until
six
of
our
brave
shanty
boys
did
volunteer
to
go
and
break
the
jam
on
Jerry's
Rock
with
our
Foreman
young
Munroe
they're
not
picked
off
many
logs,
Tillman
wrote
to
them
to
say:
I
must
send
you
back
up
the
drive
my
boys.
This
Jam
will
soon
give
way
alone.
He
freed
the
key
log
and
when
the
jam
did
go
it
carried
away
in
the
board
II
and
the
boiling
flood
our
Foreman
young
Munroe.
A
The
key
log,
of
course,
is
is
like
pick
up.
Sticks
it's
the
one
you
move
that
gets
all
the
others
movie,
so
he
found
the
key
log.
He
pulls
it
out
and
of
course
they
all
go
now
when
the
boys
up
at
the
camp,
the
news
they
came
to
here
in
search
of
his
dead
body
down
by
the
river
they
did
scare
and
there
they
found,
to
their
surprise
their
sorrow,
grief
and
wall
all
bruised
and
mangled
on
the
beach,
the
corpse
of
young
Munroe.
They
picked
him
up
most
tenderly
soothed
down
his
raven
hair.
A
There
was
one
among
the
watchers
whose
cries
did
rend:
the
air,
the
Ferriss
laughs
of
saginaw.
She
was
actually
from
Bay
City,
let
tears
of
anguish
flow,
but
her
moans
and
cries
could
not
awake
her
true
love
young
Munroe,
the
mrs.
Clarke,
a
widow
lived
by
the
riverside.
This
was
her
daughter
when
Rose
intended
bride,
so
the
wages
of
her
perished,
love
the
boss
to
her
did
pay
and
a
gift
of
gold
was
sent
to
her
by
all
the
shanty
boys
the
next
day
when
she
received
the
money.
A
She
thanked
them
tearfully,
but
it
was
not
her
portion
long
on
the
earth
to
be
for
was
just
six
weeks
or
so
when
she
was
called
to
go
and
the
shanty
boys
later
to
rest
by
the
side
of
young
munroe
they
decked
the
graves
most
decently
was
on
the
4th
of
May.
Come
all
you
trueborn
shanty
boys
and
for
a
comrade,
pray
in
graven
on
a
hemlock
tree
which,
by
the
beach
did
grow,
are
the
name
in
the
date
of
a
mournful
fate
of
our
Foreman
young
Munro.
A
Again,
a
base
city
story
since
Morris
writes
this
book
for
the
state
of
Michigan,
it's
published
in
Sheboygan.
They
print
30,000
copies
of
this
book
at
the
print
shop
and
they
have
a
fire
all
30,000
copies
burned.
They
were
able
to
print
another
copy,
get
it
to
the
state
of
Michigan
and
it
sat
in
the
state
of
Michigan
till
the
1930s
someone
ran
into
it,
republished
Fitz
Morris's
book.
It
didn't
sell
a
lot,
so
you
have
to
go
to
a
library
that
has
it
to
find
it.
A
It's
just
not
out
there
and
that's
how
that
story
got
out
young
Munroe.
It's
interesting.
The
song
spells
him
mu,
n
ro,
but
history
spells
them
mo
n,
ro
e
Munroe,
so
there's
two
different
ways
there
and
they
move
this
sad.
The
song
moves
it
all
to
Saginaw,
but
it
was
on
the
Iowa
River
and
beef
City
people
that
did
this.
So
that's
my
kind
of
talk
about
logging
and
thanks
a
lot
for
the
invitation
and
your
attention
and
enjoy
the
rest
of
your
day.