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A
We're
going
to
go
ahead
and
get
started.
My
name
is
Ron
bloom,
filament
staffer
at
the
Historical
Society.
How
many
of
you
have
never
been
in
the
museum
before
everybody's
fit?
Well,
okay,
you
guys
don't
count
well,
I,
guess,
technically
you
do.
We
always
ask
that
before
our
presentations,
so
it's
great
to
see
familiar
faces
them.
We
are
proud
to
have
partnered
with
Katy
instant
from
Michigan,
see
grant
in
work
to
put
this
event
together
as
part
of
a
much
broader
project
that
will
help
chronicle
the
sort
of
the
remembrance
a
30
year.
A
A
We're
also
working
with
some
folks
from
the
College
of
Arts
and
Letters
and
the
history
department
at
MSU
to
do
oral
histories
and
scan
photographs
and
talk
to
you
about
what
you
might
have
that
that
sort
of
thing
and
they're
in
the
back
the
and
we're
the
first
roughly
the
first
hour,
we're
going
to
have
a
couple
of
speakers
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
historic
part
of
it
and
then
the
little
bit
of
all
present
day.
And
then,
after
that,
we
will
have
the
they
will
be
available.
A
A
D
A
A
F
Thank
you
and
thank
you,
Ron
appreciate
very
much
I'm
the
program
director
for
WS,
GW
and
AM
and
FM,
and
also
at
the
time
that
the
flood
occurred.
I
was
a
news
director
in
addition
to
being
program
director
for
the
news
talk
stations
we
have.
We
have
a
total
of
five
stations
that
serve
the
market
and
I'm
the
Operations
Manager
for
all
five
of
those
radio
stations
which
include
WS,
GW,
AM
and
FM,
kiss
107
point
one:
nine
t45,
the
Moose
in
mix
106.3
and
I
do
news
on
four
of
those
five
stations.
F
So
we
are
at
alpha
media.
That's
her
owner,
we're
doing
some
remodeling
at
our
building,
and
it
was
quite
timely
that
Katie
called
me
and
told
me
about
this
project,
because
we
were
cleaning
out
some
things
as
part
of
our
renovation
and
a
lot
of
it
was
old
media.
We
don't
use
cassettes
anymore.
We
don't
use
tapes
anymore.
We
don't
use
real
the
real.
Fortunately,
I
had
some
of
those
things
and
is
going
through
that
box.
F
When
she
called
I
found
by
morning
newscasts
from
September
10th
of
1986,
so
I
thought
we
would
begin
I'm
going
to
play
a
five
minute
newscast
for
you.
That
should
give
you
a
pretty
good
sense
and
feel
of
what
was
going
on
on
that.
First
morning,
the
rain
started
heavily
on
the
night
of
the
ninth
continued
into
the
10th
11th
and
on
into
the
12th.
So
we'll
see
how
this
goes
here.
B
Degrees
at
6:05
look
for
it
to
be
mostly
ponding
today,
breezy
and
mild,
with
period
showers
and
thunderstorms.
Again,
today,
a
high
of
73
degrees.
We
have
a
flash
flood
watch
in
effect,
in
fact
we're
getting
some
local
flooding
in
the
Saginaw
County
area,
primarily
at
this
time,
and
a
number
of
school
closings
have
occurred
this
morning.
The
Birch
Run
area
schools
are
closed.
Buena
Vista
schools
are
closed.
Carlton
schools,
including
st.
Joseph,
ATS,
hemlock
schools,
are
closed.
B
C
List
of
roadways
that
are
closed
or
washed
out
from
authorities
in
the
area
most
roads
are
flooded
in
the
area
according
to
state
police
at
Bridgeport,
I-75
southbound
is
closed.
North
of
m-46
i6
75
is
closed.
Saginaw
Police
say
that
it's
bad
around
the
children's
zoo
area,
it's
Washington
Street
in
the
northwest
corner
of
Saginaw,
is
under
water.
That's
Bay
at
Davenport.
The
outer
drive
area
is
closed.
Any
Holland
underpass
is
underwater
Dixie
Highway
game.
The
only
way
out
at
this
time.
C
According
to
Saginaw
authorities,
Saginaw
County
Sherriff's
defined
four
reports
that
North
hemlock
Road,
the
1000
block
is
closed.
Frost
road,
16,000
block
has
high
water,
there's
a
wash
out
from
the
birch
run.
The
area
Courtney
near
Moorish,
Sangha,
Don,
Township
and
Buena
Vista
Township,
several
basements
have
caved
in,
and
the
entire
area
under
water,
State
and
Bay,
partially
as
well
with
cars,
have
underwater
throughout
the
entire
area.
Also
Bay
City,
State
Police,
saying
that
flooding
is
occurring
throughout
that
entire
area,
as
well.
Authorities
also
say
to
stay
off
the
roads.
C
B
Over
at
the
Sheraton
in
Saigon,
townships
and
people
are
being
awakened
this
morning
for
their
safety,
a
report
on
that
from
Ryan
Reed.
They
are
rude,
awakening
they're,
trying
to
evacuate
the
total
first
floor
of
the
Fashion
Square
Sheraton
moving
people
up
to
the
second
and
other
floors
getting
away
from
water,
I
just
got
done
being
outside
with
one
of
the
second
alternative
fire
fighters.
That's
on
the
scene.
He
says,
if
you
can
tell
anybody
anything,
have
them
stay
off
the
roads.
B
Korean
from
this
area,
you
can
certainly
say
that
it's
not
safe
to
drive
to
the
velocity
Road
part
of
Fashion
Square
Center
is
all
rain
covered.
It's
at
least
four
to
five
feet
deep
in
some
areas.
The
word
right
now
in
the
saginaw
township
into
the
mossy
road
I
675
in
I-75,
is,
if
you
do
not
have
to
drive,
don't
from
fashion
square
center,
Brian
Reid
WS
do
you
do
and
speaking
of
flooding
cars
this
morning,
member
our
news,
crew,
one
of
those
stranded
from
high
water
is
drowning
out
an
inch
and
here's
bill.
B
Mifflin
County,
you
measure
episode
of
Monsieur
Firmin
and
a
fire.
Refugia
I
have
to
arrive
more
over
here:
movement,
high,
wind
and
high
water
that
the
Dutch
weirdest
Travis
is
a
fourth
Legion
traitor,
camped
on
behind
Valley
partner
at
the
city
of
Midland,
where
joins
Fayette
County,
and
these
forces
are
killed
by
the
wings
around
three
o'clock
this
morning.
Their
reports
of
similar
injuries
run
that
company
mo
from
unable
to
disturb
any.
B
At
this
point
again:
situation
of
water
to
start
iguodala,
1,
millon
waters,
Munson
of
foot,
defense,
Emeril's,
tire,
traffic
safety,
rope,
austin,
Patridge
in
the
city
of
business
on
the
east
side
are
flooded.
Interrogation
cannot
get
through
other
roads
throughout
the
city.
Are
all
competitors
told
in
1200
life
at
poor
areas
involved?
Livid,
that's
pretty
much
it
all.
Over
the
tri-county
area
reporting
live
from
Midland
I'm
tell
you.
Colton
township
officials
are
asking
people
to
cut
back
as
much
as
possible
on
water.
You
see,
sandbagging
has
started
in
some
areas.
B
Consumers
power
is
being
seat
by
telephone
calls.
Postman,
Tim,
patrika,
says:
crews
been
out
all
night,
responding
to
emergency
calls
for
natural
gas
and
electricity
problems.
If
you
see
any
down
power
lines,
stay
away
and
report
them
to
authorities,
should
you
smell
gas
in
your
home
turn
the
gas
off
if
possible.
If
you
get
out
of
reach
the
source
of
the
gas
turn
off
all
appliances
that
the
breaker
should
the
gas
leak
continue:
evacuate,
Saginaw,
County,
fire
crews
and
rescue
units
we're
at
28
10
Ashton.
B
Within
the
past
hour
a
call
indicated
a
basement
wall
in
the
home
had
collapsed
and
the
water,
so
ground
was
threatening
to
take
more
of
the
houses
foundation
down
consumers.
Power
called
the
same
amount
of
utilities
to
the
students.
We're
told
there
are
many
people
with
flooded
basements
this
morning,
authorities
say
at
least
two
people
died
in
six
were
injured.
A
severe
thunderstorm
swept
through
southern
Michigan,
packing
a
tornado
of
heavy
rain
and
high
winds.
B
Last
night
on
this
morning,
the
storms
caused
flash
floods
and
damaged
Muskegon
to
suburban
Detroit
authorities,
say
a
lightning
strike
last
night
killed
18
year
old,
Amanda,
Brooke,
older
of
Stanton,
and
into
two
siblings,
while
lightning
injured.
Two
teenagers
inside
of
Muskegon
County
Church
a
50
year
old
Otsego
woman
died
when
a
tree
fell
on
her
car
and
Gratiot
County
authorities
say
an
Owasso
couple
were
injured
in
a
car
accident
caused
by
high
water.
We.
F
Had
a
couple
locally
that
were
down
in
the
Bridgeport
area
that
were
killed
in
in
floodwaters,
they
were
just
bystanders
looking
at
the
waters
and
they
lost
their
lives
as
a
result
of
that
storm.
In
addition
to
the
sheraton
being
flooded,
just
some
observations
that
I
made
in
going
back
and
forth
to
work
and
covering
it
as
well.
F
The
former
Hojo's
Howard
Johnson's,
Motor,
Lodge
I,
believe,
is
known
at
the
time
as
a
Creekside
Inn
at
M,
84
and
I-75
also
was
underwater
on
its
first
floor
and
the
cars
around
in
the
parking
lot
have
water
up
to
the
rooftops.
There's
just
a
lot
of
water
that
came
in
through
that
area
and
the
flooding
continued
on
through
there
there's
a
creek
that
runs
behind
there
and
goes
behind
st.
Paul's,
Church
and
part
of
the
cemetery
was
flooded
as
well
as
a
result
of
that
Veterans
Memorial
Park
here
in
Bay
City
was
heavily
flooded.
F
The
Sears
lot.
That's
the
Horrocks
now
was
halfway
up
their
parking
lot.
The
water
was
at
high.
The
underpass
ran
underneath
the
the
bridge
at
that
time
was
a
completely
underwater
James
Clements
Airport
was
under
water.
Several
feet
of
water,
all
over
the
airport,
the
Midland
Daily
News,
was
flooded
there
on
McDonald
Street
in
Midland
and
their
lower
level.
F
The
water
came
up
flooded
over
the
top
of
the
Trinity
River
flooded
into
the
courthouse
and
also
affected
the
deal
in
use,
and
all
of
these
yawning
ditches
that
we
have
around
here,
you've
seen
a
lot
of
those
driving
the
oh,
my
gosh
I
don't
want
to
run
off
the
road
into
one
of
those.
Well,
you
couldn't
see
them
because
they
were
completely
filled
and
water
was
over
the
road
and
you're
taking
your
life
in
your
hands.
F
If
you
drove
down
some
of
those
roads
that
have
that
much
water,
and
not
only
in
the
fields
but
in
the
ditches
and
on
the
roads,
you
also
had
to
plot
your
route
on
where
you
wanted
to
go.
You
heard
on
the
report
that
Dixie
Highway
was
the
only
way
out
of
Saginaw
at
one
particular
time
there,
and
you
had
to
think
about
how
you're
going
to
get
from
here
to
there
with
all
the
water.
F
F
He
was
trying
to
go
to
the
transmitter
site
and
that's
a
story
in
its
own
that
I'm
going
to
tell
you
about,
and
then
we
had
another
van,
a
newer
van
someone
was
smart
enough
to
stop
and
not
drive
through
the
water
here
on
Portsmouth
Road
out
in
some
of
the
flooded
areas,
but
to
Bill
in
his
efforts
to
cover
all
of
the
news
managed
to
flood
this
van
as
well.
So
we
had
two
bands
and
a
news
car
that
went
under
I'll
pass
these
around.
If
you'd
like
to
take
a
look
at
that.
F
The
second
morning
of
the
morning
of
September,
11th
I
got
a
call
about
two
o'clock
in
the
morning
from
our
person,
who
was
on
duty
at
night,
telling
me
that
the
radio
station
the
a.m.
was
off
the
air
that
the
transmitter
site
was
flooded.
Our
engineer
was
out
there
stranded
and,
as
it
turns
out,
our
general
manager
and
the
operations
manager
who
has
a
table
I
have
now
we're
both
in
New
Orleans
for
a
convention
for
three
days.
F
So
there
was
no
one
here
to
make
the
decisions,
so
they
decide
called
the
news
director
and
have
a
news
director
figure
out.
What
to
do
so.
First
thing,
I
did
is
I
grabbed
the
role
of
clean
plastic
from
home
I
grabbed
an
extra
sump
pump
that
I
had
at
home
and
headed
down
to
the
station
to
find
out
just
what
the
circumstances
were.
I
talked
to
the
engineer
and
found
out
as
you'll
see
this
one
vehicle
that
he
had
water
that
was
up
over
his
waist.
F
We
had
about
two
feet
that
was
inside
our
transmitter
building
and
had
knocked
us
off
the
air
that
transmitter
building
is
located
along
m81
in
Indian
town.
There's
a
six-hour
array
out
there,
that's
ours
and
that's
where
the
building
is
is
on
Uncle
Henry
Road
and
it
sits
back
about
a
quarter
mile
off
the
road
and
the
Dyke
broke,
and
that's
what
caused
it
to
get
flooded
out
there.
F
So
first
thing
I
wanted
to
do
was
what
we
have
to
stop
the
water
and
we've
got
to
get
the
water
out
of
the
building.
We've
got
to
dry
out
the
transmitter.
That's
why
I
brought
along
hydraulic
jack
with
me,
but
first
I
made
a
few
phone
calls
from
the
station
after
I
found
my
way
there
through
all
of
the
detours
and
I
called
merge.
Emergency
Operations
Center
in
Saginaw
and
I,
told
my
needed
some
sandbags
and
they
said
I'm.
Sorry.
We
can't
help
if
any
sandbags
and
I
thought
well.
F
What
a
fix
well
I
need
some
sandbags,
so
I
called
back
and
I
said:
look
I'm
in
the
Communications
business.
We've
got
to
get
a
radio
station
back
on
the
air.
So
we
can
tell
people
what
they
need
to
do
for
the
next
couple
of
days.
Will
this
flooding
and
gentleman
said
well?
I
can
provide
you
with
some
empty
sandbags
and
we
have
someone
here
from
the
city
of
Zilwaukee.
They
have
their
yard.
You
can
go
down
to
the
city
of
Zoar
walky
yard
and
you
can
fill
the
sandbags
on
your
own
if
you
like.
F
So
while
we
weren't
on
the
air,
so
I
grabbed
some
of
my
reporters
and
a
couple
of
news
cars
and
we
went
down
to
the
Zilwaukee
yard
and
then
we
had
a
shovel
and
we
filled
sandbags
loaded
up
both
news
cars,
the
trunk
and
backseat
full
of
sandbags
drove
back
to
the
station
and
I
knew
those
news.
Cars
weren't,
going
to
do
any
good
to
get
again
where
I
needed
it.
So
I
thought
well.
How
can
I
get
ahold
of
someone
with
a
high
profile
vehicle
that
can
carry
all
the
sand
in?
For
me?
F
There's
a
gentleman
in
Bay
City
at
the
time
who
would
do
just
about
anything
for
anybody
and
I
called
him
in
the
middle
of
the
night.
His
name's
Frank
rechsteiner
and
I
asked
Frank
if
he
could
come
out
with
a
truck
and
he
didn't
come
personally,
but
he
sent
someone
out
with
a
truck
and
so
at
the
radio
station.
F
We
loaded
all
the
sandbags
from
the
news
cars
into
the
back
of
his
truck
and
went
out
to
the
transmitter
site
and
he
drove
in
as
far
as
he
could,
but
he
couldn't
get
beyond
our
remote
vehicle
that
you
see
there
that
it's
flooded
the
road
was
blocked.
So
about
half
the
distance
about
an
eighth
of
a
mile.
My
reporters
and
I
were
up
to
water
up
to
our
waists
and
we're
carrying
sandbags
out
our
shoulders
from
the
truck
carrying
it
into
the
transmitter
building.
F
So
I
took
the
plastic,
put
it
around
the
the
two
doors
set
around
there
and
we
put
sandbags
around
the
doors
and
then
we
got
inside
and
we
started
turning
on
the
pump
and
that
one
sump
pump
wasn't
making
a
lot
of
progress
against
about
two
feet
of
water
that
was
inside
this
building.
That
is
probably
not
quite
the
size
of
this
room
about
3/4
of
the
size
of
this
room.
F
So
as
the
day
went
along
when
business
hours
were
opened,
I
called
our
business
man
and
she
a
manager
and
she
called
wool
files
and
made
arrangements
to
get
me.
Five
more
sump
pumps
and
hose
and
I
had
some
of
our
people
back
at
the
station,
who
were
hitching
to
help
out
grab
a
rowboat
and
they
brought
a
rowboat
and
the
pumps,
and
they
brought
us
some
food
and
came
out
to
the
transmitter
site.
So
he
had
five
pumps
working.
F
Meanwhile,
we
loosened
the
bolts,
a
tank
of
the
transmitter
and
we
jacked
the
transmitter
up
and
got
it
up
out
of
the
water.
So
I
could
start
drying
out
and
it
took
probably-
and
then
power
was
still
on
it.
We're
messing
around
in
this
water,
with
electricity
and
and
everything
in
pumps
in
oh
I,
I
hate
to
think
of
the
workman's
comp
and
probably
there's
some
circumstances
there
that
were
kind
of
risky.
F
But
anyhow
we
have
that
going
on
from
the
time
we
were
able
to
get
it
going
and
start
getting
it
pumped
out
in
the
morning.
It
was
late
afternoon
before
we
got
the
are
out
of
the
building
and
got
a
dry
enough
where
we
could.
The
transmitter
was
dried
out
enough
and
there's
you
know
still
a
couple
inches
water
and
there's
one
other
reporter
myself
still
out
there
and
we
got
on
top
of
a
wooden
desk.
F
While
the
engineer
went
over
and
threw
the
switch
to
turn
on
the
transmitter
and
he
didn't
get
electrocuted,
and
we
were
pleased
pleased
with
that
and
we
got
back
on
the
air,
but
it
was
unfortunate
being
the
kind
of
station
we
are
to
be
off
those
hours,
but
the
what
you've
heard
here.
We
were
able
to
get
the
first
full
day
on
there
before
this
was
a
sec
morning
when
we
got
flooded
out
and
knocked
off
the
air.
F
F
The
Saginaw
River
handles
a
lot
of
water,
it
drains
22
counties.
There
are
three
rivers
that
make
up
the
Saginaw
River
and
most
of
you
in
your
lifetime,
you've
seen
when
we
get
a
northeaster
here
and
there's
maybe
been
a
rainstorm
or
whatever
I've
got
water
coming
down
the
river
and
you'll
get
a
little
down
the
sea
walls
down
here
we'll
get
up
to
the
top
of
the
sea
walls
along
the
river.
F
Well
that
had
the
drain,
commissioner
in
Saginaw
County
quite
nervous
about
what
was
going
to
happen.
His
name
was
Jim
Koski
and
Jim
was
doing
a
studying
flood
maps
and
looking
at
everything
and
trying
to
figure
out
what
was
going
to
happen
next
and
he
thought
with
all
the
volume
of
water
that
was
coming
our
way
in
Saginaw
that
there
was
going
to
be
a
problem.
So
we
were
on
the
air
appealing
for
volunteers
on
their
behalf
to
come,
help
fill
sandbags
and
they
use
sandbags
and
also
dirt.
F
So
they
were
successful
with
what
they
did
and
with
the
way
some
of
the
waters
went
over
that
period
of
time.
I,
don't
have
the
exact
figures
in
front
of
me,
but
was
between
10
and
11
inches
of
rain
that
we
got
in
those
short
few
days.
We
had
already
had
previous
rain
in
September
and
the
ground
was
pretty
much
saturated.
Then
we
got
this
deluge.
F
It
just
parked
over
us
and
just
stayed
here
and
kept
raining
and
raining
and
raining
and
we
got
10
or
11
inches
before
it
finally
subsided
after
the
12th
and
water
started,
going
down,
I
think
overall,
I
don't
have
exact
stats,
but
I
believe.
Overall
we
got
about
19
inches
of
rain,
that
September
in
1986.
F
So
once
we're
back
on
the
air,
we
were
busy
giving
school
closings
road,
closings,
cancellations
that
were
going
on
day
after
day
utility
safety
and
sanitation
messages.
One
thing
that
really
impressed
me
in
the
days
that
followed
and
how
many
you
found
to
begin
to
see
how
many
people
were
impacted
when
they
start
putting
all
the
trash
out
at
the
curbs
from
their
flooded
basements
and
their
homes.
It
was
just
you
know
the
trash
company.
F
In
addition
to
that,
there
is
enormous
agricultural
impact.
This
was
a
time
of
the
year
where
some
of
the
beans
were
off,
but
there
were
still
beans
in
the
field.
There
were
beets
in
the
field,
there's
corn
in
the
fields,
and
there
was
enormous
agricultural
impact
throughout
this
entire
area
and
Congressman
Traxler
organized
a
meeting
it
was
held
at
Highschool
and
their
other
state
and
federal
agencies
involved
having
an
informational
meeting
on
what
they
could
do
to
help
people.
F
People
want
to
know
if
they
could
get
any
relief
and
what
was
going
to
happen
as
a
result.
They
did
get
some
disaster
loans
available
for
agriculture
and
there
were
some
other
types
of
help,
but
there
are
3,000
people
according
to
our
farm
director
that
turned
out
at
that
meeting
at
reece
icicle
to
learn
about
what
could
be
done
and
recovering
from
that
flood,
and
so
it
had
a
lot
of
impact.
F
The
biggest
difference
that
we
have
between
now
and
I
know
katie-
is
going
to
address.
It
is
a
difference
that
we
have
technology
between
then
and
now.
There's
a
lot
of
difference
in
what
we're
able
to
do
for
communication
and
what
we
can
information
that
we
can
get
out
and
how
fast
we
can
get
it
out
and
notification
systems
that
we
have
I'll
put
a
plug
in
for
Bay
alerts
if
you're
not
signed
up
for
that,
you
should
be
it's
important
to
have
if
you
have
a
smartphone
or
even
on
your
home
phone.
F
If
they've
got
a
disaster
going
and
you
didn't
select
the
levels
of
notifications
you
want
to
get,
but
they
will
send
you
a
message
to
let
you
know
the
circumstances
that
you've
got.
We
set
this
up
about
10
years
ago,
a
system
we
started
out
with
pagers
who
set
up
a
system
with
central
dispatches
in
Saginaw,
Bay
and
Midland
counties
when
they
have
something
they
notify.
F
It's
that's
how
when
there's
an
accident
at
Johnny
and
Thomas
and
or
Jenni
and
Euclid
or
Thomas
and
Euclid,
and
you
hear
us
on
the
air,
give
it
we
get
it
instantaneously.
They
put
it
out
right
away
for
us,
so
we
can
tell
people
to
stay
away
in
that
intersection
or
whatever
works
quite
well
when
you've
got
individual
accidents
or
fires
and
things
in
the
winter.
When
you
get
a
bad
storm
and
everything
is
shut
down,
they
just
stop
giving
it.
F
We
just
start
using
a
blanket
message:
stay
off
the
roads,
don't
drive,
a
lot
of
roads
are
impassable
and
it
becomes
very
generic
at
that
point
and
then
they
call
us
a
few
hours
later
and
tell
us
they
handled
100,
ten
accidents
in
Saginaw,
County
and
80
in
Bay,
County
and
70
in
Midland
County.
So
so
that's
how
we
get
the
information
so
quick
and
also
with
the
computers
and
social
media.
Social
media
would
be
fantastic
in
the
in
this
day
and
age.
F
We
could
have
people
sending
us
pictures
of
some
of
the
damage
and
stuff
they
become
more
or
less
reporters
for
us.
I
know,
TV
uses
it
all
the
time
asking
people
to
send
them
their
pictures
after
storms
we're
in
the
same
boat.
We
have
a
website
and
we
have
apps
and
we
put
pictures
and
things
on
our
website
as
well.
So
we
could
do
a
lot
more.
We
could
extend
our
resources
just
thanks
to
that
technology
and
notification
systems
that
we
have
have
here
today.
There
are
a
lot
of
pros
and
cons
of
social
media.
F
What
to
put
on
there.
We
have
no
control
over
it.
We
deal
with
that
all
the
time
we
have
a
monthly
meeting
with
law
enforcement,
immediate
auke
bout,
different
things.
Well,
the
biggest
problems
we
have
is
with
social
media,
because
people
are
putting
false
and
erroneous
information
on
there
and
it
gets
around
fast
and
then
the
law
enforcement
has
to
deal
with
getting
the
correct
information
out
through
the
proper
channels
to
try
to
straighten
things
out
so
that
people
know
what's
going
on,
but
I
think
I've
pretty
much
exhausted.
F
My
time
unless
you
have
some
questions,
afterward
might
be
questions
now
or
later.
The
questions
now,
okay,
I
see
some
people
who
were
never
even
born
at
that
time
and
I
see
a
lot
of
people
who
probably
remember
more
than
I
do
about
the
flood
in
the
room.
So
I'd
be
more
glad
to
entertain
a
few
questions
and
try
to
answer
them.
F
F
C
F
E
F
That
was
considered
a
500
year
flood,
in
other
words,
that's
a
storm
that
you
would
expect
to
see
occur
in
an
area
once
in
a
500
years.
Initially
they
considered
a
100-year
flood
and,
as
time
went
by
and
it
got
so
much
worse
and
impact
so
many
more
people,
they
determined
it
was
a
500
year
flood.
Thank
you.
D
Very
much
so
Dave
did
a
fantastic
job
of
covering
kind
of
the
history
of
the
1986
storm
and
I'm,
going
to
bring
us
a
little
bit
more
into
the
present
today
and
talk
about
30
years
later.
Some
of
the
things
that
have
changed
since
then,
and
some
of
the
ways
in
which
it's
still
really
important
that
we
be
preparing
for
flooding.
So
my
name
is
Katie
Hinson
I'm,
an
Extension
educator
with
the
Michigan
Sea
Grant
Program
in
the
Saginaw
Bay
area
and
I've
been
kind
of
leading
some
of
the
effort
on
this
1986
commemoration
project.
D
C
D
Some
ways
the
answer's,
no,
that
it
that
we
probably
if
we
had
a
flood
of
the
same
magnitude
as
1986.
It
probably
wouldn't
have
the
same
level
of
damage
today,
because
we've
made
so
many
advancements
in
predicting
storms
and
flooding
and
because
we
have
so
many
new
technologies
for
communicating
with
residents
during
an
emergency.
So
that
means
that
we
would
have
more
advanced
notice.
We
would
have
more
accurate
information
in
the
case
of
a
flood
and
that
will
really
reduce
the
kind
of
damage
that
you
see.
D
So
in
1986
we
didn't
really
have
information
about
our
local
River
tributaries.
It
was
really
hard
to
accurately
predict
what
would
be
the
peak
crest
for
places
like
the
tributaries
of
the
tuna
voici
and
the
Saginaw
River.
Now
we
have
automated
River
gauges
that
are
placed
in
all
the
rivers
that
are
transmitting
information
about
high
how
high
the
rivers
are
all
the
time
and
you
can
actually
go
online
and
see
it
in
real
time.
D
So,
with
the
proliferation
of
the
internet,
it
means
that
not
only
do
local
public
officials
have
a
lot
more
access
to
know
what
stage
the
rivers
are
at,
but
the
public
can
as
well.
So
this
is
a
shot
I
took
today
off
of
the
National
their
service
website.
Every
one
of
those
dots
is
a
river
gage
in
Michigan
and
it's
recording
in
real-time.
What's
the
level
of
the
river
green
means?
D
It's
not
a
flood,
so
we're
good
today,
and
then
you
can
click
on
your
River
in
your
local
area,
so
that
bottom
right
hand
corner
shot,
is
from
the
Saginaw
River
at
Saginaw,
and
you
can
see
what
the
level
of
the
river
is
and
you
can
watch
it
as
it
goes
up
into
areas
of
higher
and
higher
flood
risk.
So
this
is
a
level
of
information
that
we
had
nowhere
near
in
1986.
I
was
alive
in
1986
barely,
but.
A
D
Was
not
a
local
official?
We
also
a
lot
better
communication
between
local
agencies
first
responders
and
federal
agencies
in
the
public.
So
we
already
talked
about
some
of
those
push
notifications
you
can
get
on
your
phone
or
on
your
email
or
you
can
get
automatic
updates.
When
there's
a
flood
warning,
you
can
see
when
there's
flooding
in
your
neighborhood.
When
there's
roads
closed,
you
can
get
that
information
a
lot
more
quickly.
D
D
We
heard
lots
of
stories
of
folks
at
the
radio
station
kind
of
banding
together
to
to
stop
the
floodwaters
and
I
think
the
same
thing
happened
at
communities
all
over
the
area
and
as
a
result,
after
the
flood,
a
lot
of
the
communities
that
were
most
heavily
impacted
places
like
Vassar
or
Midland,
started
to
change
their
building
patterns.
They
started
to
think.
Okay,
maybe
we
shouldn't
rebuild
our
houses
and
our
businesses
in
the
same
spot,
where
we
had
such
a
devastating
flood.
D
We
should
put
a
baseball
field
or
Park
or
a
parking
lot
there.
So
you
can
see
this
is
a
view
of
downtown
Midland
in
September
of
1986
and
this
month,
and
you
can
tell
some
of
these
buildings
down
in
the
bottom
corner
are
no
longer
there
right,
they've
replaced
them
with
Park
land
and
parking
lot.
So
if
we
had
the
same
magnitude
of
flood
today,
you
get
a
lot
less
damage
because
wouldn't
impact
quite
as
many
residents
or
businesses,
so
could
1986
happen
again
in
some
ways.
No,
but
also
definitely
yes.
D
So
we've
made
a
lot
of
advancements
in
technology
and
information,
but
all
that
does
is
give
us
the
ability
to
have
more
advanced
warning.
Basically
it
doesn't.
It
increases
our
chances
to
act
quickly
to
minimize
damage.
It
doesn't
do
anything
to
decrease
the
likelihood
that
we
would
have
another
storm
of
that
magnitude
right
so
in
fact
we're
finding
that
we're
actually
seeing
a
pattern
of
increased
frequency
and
intensity
of
storms
over
the
last
few
decades.
D
So
this
is
some
data
from
the
national
climate
data
center
as
part
of
the
National
Oceanic
and
Atmospheric
Administration,
and
what
it
shows
is
basically
that
over
the
last
50
years,
we've
seen
a
37
percent
increase
in
the
amount
of
rain
or
snow,
that's
falling
in
the
biggest
storms.
So
these
big
storms
are
happening
more
frequently,
which
makes
it
just
as
important
that
we
continue
to
prepare
for
another
storm
like
1986.
D
This
is
just
to
show
that
you
know
1986
was
not
the
first
storm
of
its
kind.
It
was
maybe
bigger
than
some
of
the
ones
we've
seen
in
the
past,
but
we
are
not
strangers
to
large
storms
in
the
Saginaw
Bay
watershed
we
had
some
pretty
major
flooding
in
1904
in
1912,
in
1916
and
47
and
again
in
86
and
I
would
probably
add
to
this
list.
2013
in
Saginaw
Bay
had
some
other
big
flood
events,
so
we
live
in
a
part
of
the
state
where
we
just
have
flooding
pretty
regularly.
D
D
D
Really
easy
you
just
sit
down
and
think
about
in
one-page
answering
these
questions.
How
do
you
get
information
about
a
coming
flood?
Have
you
signed
up
for
bate
alerts?
If
you
sign
up
for
the
national
weather
service
notification
system,
do
you
listen
to
the
radio
regularly?
Do
you
have
television?
How
are
you
going
to
get
your
information
about
flood?
Is
your
home,
your
business,
your
school
in
a
flood
prone
area?
It's
really
easy
now
to
go
online
and
look
up
the
FEMA
flood
map
service
center
and
you
can
put
in
your
address
and
it'll.
D
D
Let's
see,
how
would
you
learn
about
evacuation
orders?
How
would
you
get
that
information?
Your
local
emergency
management
office
is
usually
going
to
be
putting
out
reminders,
but
thinking
about
how
would
you
have
access
to
know
when
there's
actually
an
evacuation
order
in
place
what
access
roads
can
use
to
evacuate?
We
heard
you
know
on
that
old
radio
program,
just
how
many
roads
were
out
of
commission.
D
D
D
So
things
like
supplies
of
non
of
non-perishable
foods
of
bottled
water,
battery-operated
radios,
flashlights,
having
kind
of
your
personal
items,
their
medication.
Thinking
about
your
pets,
you
know:
how
are
you
gonna
get
your
dog
out?
Where
are
you
going
to
put
your
dog
if
there's
a
flood
that
kind
of
stuff
so
and.
D
I
have
here
is
just
kind
of
a
list
of
other
resources.
This
is
from
the
Chippewa
Nature
Center
a
lovely.
He
looks
like
he's
in
the
70s,
but
80s
guy
in
canoe.
There's
a
lot
of
really
good
resources
out
there
and
we've
put
together
a
website
in
connection
with
this
project
called
1986
flood
comm
and
that's
a
place
you
can
go.
You
can
see
photos
that
people
submitted
of
the
flooding.
D
You
can
write
up
a
little
story
and
click
submit
and
have
your
story
added
to
the
to
the
map,
and
also
we
have
a
lot
of
these
resources
about
kind
of
what
you
can
do
to
prepare
for
future
floods.
I
also
have
a
bunch
of
resources
on
this
table
over
here.
If
anybody
is
interested,
you
can
snag
some
of
those
so
with
that
I'm
not
going
to
take
a
ton
more
time.
But
if
anybody
has
questions
for
me
or
Dave,
we
be
happy
to
hear
him.
E
He's
gotta
come
the
Noah
map
that
you
showed
up
in
order
for
the
Saigon
River
I
live
in
Midland
and
in
tui
both
three
years
ago,
when
yet
flooding
in
Saginaw
Midland
had
extensive
playing
as
well
and
originally
when
it
started
that
they
started
for
dipping
because
they
have
computer
modeling
that
tries
to
and
they
they
were
saying,
34
feet,
which
was
the
same
as
1986.
So
he
Jame
is
my
house
actually
got.
Oh,
maybe
a
foot
of
water
in
1986,
so
I
was
a
little
concerned
whoa
they
were
able
to
do
a
few
things.
E
They
started.
I
think
dumping
the
lakes
upstream
ahead
of
time.
They're
proactive
was
meant
that
you
know
things
are
going
to
flood
faster
that
were
in
the
flood,
but
they
redid
anomaly
and
they
said
it
was
30
feet.
Less
I
thought
a
little
better
about
that.
You
know,
and
then
we
didn't
quite
get
the
rain
we're
supposed
to,
and
so
by
Wednesday
they
predicted
the
modeling
said
it
would
compete
crust
at
midnight
Saturday
at
28
and
a
half
feet
on
that.
What
you
just
showed
there,
it
crusted
at
midnight.
E
E
D
Well,
with
that,
we
have
some
folks
here
from
Michigan
State
University,
and
they
brought
scanners.
If
you
have
any
photos
from
the
flood
that
you
want
to
get
put
into,
a
digital
copy
will
digitize
them
and
give
you
a
CD
with
the
with
the
preserved
photos
and
obviously
your
original
photos.
They
also
brought
recording
equipment
if
anybody
wants
to
share
their
story
from
1986
and
have
it
archived
here
at
the
Museum.