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From YouTube: State of the Bay Conference - Water Trails, EcoTourism & Coastal Recreation Breakout Session
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A
I'll,
be
your
moderator,
executive
director
for
part
of
the
lakes,
which
is
the
state
association
problem,
land
trust
in
Michigan.
Well,
I
teach
our
panelists
introduce
themselves
at
some
length,
but
just
briefly,
we've
got
Rebecca
FINA.
Well
today,
with
us
she's,
the
executive
director
of
the
Flint
River
watershed
coalition,
she's,
been
in
that
capacity
since
2008,
and
really
done
some
transformative
programming,
Laura
lugar
who's.
The
director
for
community
affairs,
marbella
Parish,
Community,
Development,
Department
she's,
been
in
that
role
for
the
past
16
years.
A
B
B
B
And
the
reason
we
know,
because
we
have
a
ton
of
data
to
show
it,
how
I've
done
whole
tops
just
the
days
that
we
have
and
I'm
going
to
talk
about
that
here
today.
But
this
is
just
one
example
of
the
data
that
we
do
have.
This
is
our
benthic
macroinvertebrates
sampling
that
we
did
downstream
of
the
city
of
flint
that
you
can
see.
We
can't
see
the
dates
on
there,
but
starting
in
98
and
through
2616
I
think
we
have
seven.
B
B
B
This
is
a
really
great
opportunity
for
recreation
for
children
of
all
ages
and
violet.
These
are
photos
I've
taken
all
throughout
the
Flint
River
watershed
by
some
amateur
photographers
and
they're
members
of
our
organization
and
see
you
after
the
videos.
We've
got
one
that
all
kinds
of
great
wildlife
viewing
opportunities.
B
And
that
brings
us
to
our
paddling
opportunity
on
the
summer,
but
we
have
seen
a
tremendous
growth
in
town.
What
River
you
can
see.
We
have
really
big
events
where
we
have
over
100
people
on
the
river
without
overly
small
events
where
we
just
you
know
three
or
four
boats
out
there
on
the
river,
but.
B
Back
in
I
can't
see
the
dates
on
there,
but
I
think
it
was
2008
and
the
program
was
only
Brownson,
so
we
had
a
little
bit
of
a
dip
there
in
2012
I
was
doing
staff
composition,
but
you
can
see
that
pallet
River
has
only
gotten
more
and
more
popular.
The
last
column
there
is
from
last
year,
and
that's
just
under
300
participants.
This
year,
we're
already
over
400
in
2002,
more
houses
to
go
so
we're
hoping
to.
B
Just
in
our
organized
palaces
here
so
much
like
they'll
talk
about
that
the
previous
session,
with
their
workmanship
I,
see
a
couple
years
ago,
the
we
decided
that
we're
going
to
pursue
a
national
water
grab
that
the
nation
for
20
hours.
We
worked
really
really
closely
with
two
key
partners:
the
Genesee
County
Regional
Medical
Team,
Plan
Commission
and
the
Genesee
County
Parks
and
Recreation
Commission,
and
as
well
as
being
central,
a
really
important
technical
assistance,
National
Park
Service,
and
to
the
development
of
our
trail
application.
We
had
these
really
great
maximum.
So
again,.
B
B
Do
we
want
to
classify
the
river
by
experience
level,
and
then
we
spent
a
crazy
amount
of
time
on
this
and
then
finally,
you
know
what
we
can
do
both
so
it's
really
hard
to
tell
in
there,
but
you
can
see
that
we
have
skill
level
and
River
characteristic
and
you
can
describe
there's
a
couple
more
Maxo.
There.
B
I
want
a
naturalistic
which
tracks
which
stretch
would
work
best
for
that
or
hey.
What's
it
like
going
from
Flushing
mountains?
Oh
that's
a
that.
You
don't
need
a
lot
of
experience
for
that,
so
we're
really
excited
about
our
rock
romance.
All
of
these
are
going
up
on
we're
website
we're
going
to
be
doing
interactive
and
passing
once
we
see
the
fun
quarterly,
but
we're
really
excited
about
our
masks.
B
So
what
is
the
water
galaxies
kind
of
obvious
we're
all
water
people
here?
But
basically,
you
know
we're
looking
at
recreation
routes,
a
network
of
public
access
supported
by
a
broad
base
of
community
partnerships,
one
of
the
things
that
we
did
putting
together
our
water
trail
application
is
meet
with
every
single
municipality
or
conscious
forward
along
the
route
that
has
public
asset
access
sites.
We
work
with
them
in
some
cases
over
several
months
to
achieve
a
where
we
were
at
the
Salomon
community.
So
every
community
Ilana
River
Trail,
responded
in
this
process.
B
There
were
considered
partners
in
our
application
process
and
then
the
opportunities
for
both
conservation
and
recreation.
This
is
something
that
I
think
is
going
to
be.
You
know
that
we
all
know
in,
but
you
will
give
will
here
often
throughout
the
day
to
day
that
it's
really
hard
to
get
people
to
care
about
something
that
they
don't
know.
Many
people
have
come
to
the
river
to
introduce
into.
D
B
A
really
possible
experience
for
our
tour,
the
entire
system,
as
well
as
rivers
throughout
the
state.
We
have
to
have
a
managing
organization
to
watch.
The
coalition
is
taking
on
that
role
again
support
by
local
community
and
the
government
that
talked
about
that
and
the
public
information
pieces
report.
I
mentioned
before,
with
our
masks
where
you
develop
the
whole
website
for
our
water
trail.
We
really
want
people
to
come
and
visit
see.
We
have.
B
B
Through
the
process
of
developing
our
application
to
the
the
National
National
Park,
Service
sport
or
Water
Trail,
we
came
up
with
this
really
great
mission
and
apologies,
but
I'm
gonna
read
it
because
I
just
really
like
it
provides
a
variety
of
recreational
experiences.
By
connecting
the
river
users
to
natural,
cultural
and
historic
features
along
a
safe
and
accessible
river
trail,
and
it
probes,
recreation,
education,
you
can
have
a
revitalization
and
increase
the
stewardship
of
the
Flint
River
and
its
surrounding.
B
Also
developed
a
lot
of
really
great
goals
for
that
mission,
which
again
I
think
a
pretty
self-explanatory
and
obvious
everyone's
kind
of
working
towards
these
things.
The
really
important
thing
is
at
the
bottom
of
showcasing
the
positive
aspects
of
the
Thunderer,
because
the
Flint
River
has
a
really
terrible
temptation,
not
so
much
locally
anymore
but
regionally
and
nationally,
especially
with
some
of
the
threats
that
we've
got.
B
Thirty
thirteen
water
crisis,
this
National
Water
Tribe
designation,
is
a
tremendous
opportunity
for
us
to
show
not
just
people
that
live
in
our
communities,
but
the
whole
state
in
the
whole
region.
What
a
fantastic
resource
we
have
right
here
in
the
second
half
a
watershed
bill
had
mentioned
before
that.
There's
only
two
other
water
trails
that
in
Michigan
key
points
are
gonna,
be
the
third
I
think
we're
going
to
placer.
B
How
great
is
that
and
Makassar,
who
is
also
pursuing
a?
How
great
is
it
that
we
in
this
water
shape
we're
gonna,
have
three
national
water
trans
designated
pretty
much
all
at
the
same
time
at
this
I
think
that's
such
an
exciting
thing.
It's
showcasing
all
those
positive
features
of
this
part
of
the
state
to
the
rest
of
the
state
really
excited
about
that.
B
The
benefits
of
getting
that
national
designation,
our
that
recognition
that
we're
just
talking
about
it,
also
plugs
us
into
a
knowledge
network
sharing
portal,
as
well
as
opportunities
to
obtain
technical
assistance
from
the
National
Park
Service
and
plug
those
into
that
network
of
other
rivers
around
the
country
that
have
already
achieved
that
designation.
But
then
it
also
has
all
these
external
benefits
as
far
as
economic
impact
of
bringing
people
to
a
national
water
water
trail
in
our
community.
B
B
Of
access
points
to
the
river,
what
we
did
with
the
management
plan
that
we
developed
for
our
application
process
is
set
some
sort
of
short,
medium
and
long
term
goals
and
long
term
goal,
which
is
very
long
term
I
understand.
But
we
want
every
one
of
our
sites,
a
long
river
to
be
universally
accessible.
We've
got
a
really
great
partnership,
started
with
the
ability
network,
input
and
working
with
them
to
sort
of
charge.
That
course
Jamie
who
is
in
charge
of
our
family
program
right
now
is
right.
B
Now
she
just
got
back
from
a
training
opportunity
up
in
an
EP
learning,
she's
now
certified
to
work
with
people
with
the
whole
range
of
disabilities
from
being
hearing
impaired
or
are
visually
impaired
to
people
who
are
paralyzed
from
the
neck
down
working
with
just
about
anybody
on
how
to
retrofit
they're
both
so
that
they
can
safely
use
the
river
how
to
train
them
to
get
in
and
out
of
their
boat
and
especially
on
a
wet
leave.
So
she
felt
it
so
that
if
somebody
with
a
disability
happens
to
follow
you
to.
A
B
In
working
with
people
with
disabilities
on
how
to
adjust
their
their
paddling
stroke
so
that
you
know,
if
they
have
a
certain
disability,
they
can
still
use
the
river
in
a
way
that
reflects
any
other
issues
that
they.
So
we're
really
excited
about
that.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
the
trails
in
compliance
with
all
applicable
p.m.
news
plans
and.
C
B
Laws
we
have
done
that.
We've
worked
with
any
community
that
has
a
parks
plant
to
make
sure
that
all
the
rules
that
we
have
in
our
environment
are
water
and
mesh
with
the
goals
of
the
local
parks
plans
that
it's
open
for
public
use
at
least
10
consecutive
years.
We
definitely
consider
that
the
floor.
We,
our
long-term
goal,
is
that
this
is
a
water
trail
in
perpetuity
and
that
the
trail
designation
must
be
supported
by
landowners
which
again,
we've
met
with
every
single
needs
palate
along
the
water
trail.
We
have
those
agreements
in
place.
B
We
do
have
a
couple
of
access
points
to
the
river
that
are
technically
our
private
land.
We
have
not
included
those
in
our
application
or
in
our
water
trail
maps
other
than
as
listing
them
as
emergency
takeouts,
because
we
have
quite
got
those
private
landowners
on
board,
but
we
fully
anticipate
once
we
so
exceed
the
benefits
of
the
water
trail.
B
In
the
you
know,
a
lot
of
people
get
a
little
worried
that
it
could
bring
a
lot
of
people
under
their
property
that
are
good,
so
we
just
want
to
make
sure
that
they
feel
comfortable
with
it,
and
we
are
fully
confident
that
we
can
get
them
on
board
down
the
road
and
or
work
with
another
agency
that
to
purchase
it
easy.
Let's
watch
like
so:
okay.
C
B
All
of
these
things-
I'm
not
gonna,
go
through
all
of
them,
but
recreational
communities
for
education,
trail,
maintenance,
Public,
Information,
planean
conservation.
Those
are
all
chapters
in
the
man
who
have
been
those
are
all
very
important
keys
for
ensuring
the
long-term
sustainability
of
a
water
trail
and
where
were
requirements
from
that
apart
services
that
have
all
of
these
things
fully
addressed
in
your
in
your
applications.
So
go
ahead.
B
The
designation,
which
we
did
submit
our
application
back
to
the
spring
and
we
are-
and
this
would
be
hopefully
a
mammal
to
get
the
final
word
on
the
final
decision
of
our
water
trail,
but
the
other
line,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day
the
vision
is
we
get
this
water
trail.
We
have
opportunities
to
incorporate.
B
And
trail
that
goes
along
with
large
swaths
of
our
water
trail,
making
those
connections,
the
visions
of
things
like
their
kayak
lockers
or
just
you
know,
pipe
racks
where
people
can
drop
their
boat
off
at
a
lunch
run
into
town
grab,
a
beer
or
an
ice
cream.
Have
some
dinner
come
back
and
finish
their
finish
that
right?
These
are
all
part
of
the
vision
of
what
we
believe
that
was
pursuing
the
sense
of
watercolor
as
a
nation
of
ultimately
lead
singer
today,
which
brings
me
to
where
I'm.
B
Putting
this
nation
together
here
in
my
archive
manager,
has
moved
on
to
some
new,
exciting
opportunities,
are
hurt
and
has
left
and
very
large
set
of
shoes
itself.
So
if
you
know
anybody
who
might
be
interested
in
taking
like
that
with
the
watershed
coalition-
and
we
don't
have
a
good
job-
won't
be
quite
ready
yet,
but
you
know,
Santa
Monica
river
network
will
have
that
posted.
Hopefully.
D
You
very
much
my
name
is
Laura
over
Fayette
County's
director
for
Environmental
Affairs
into
being
in
development.
It's
interesting,
my!
It
was
ripped
up.
It's
kind
of
talking
about
the
Saginaw
access
to
the
Saginaw
Bay
in
the
river
I'm,
going
to
focus
primarily
on
the
band.
Oh
there's!
No,
a
lot
of
other
presentations.
A
D
A
D
If
we
would
have
been
thinking
about
a
state
of
the
big
conference
and
realistically
we're
talking
about,
like
my
presentation-
is
about
access
their
resort,
this
area,
along
the
way
had
a
number
of
resort
summer
resorts.
They
were
known
as
I
have
some
florals
later
out
of
my
presentation
to
kind
of
kind
of
highlight
a
couple
of
those,
but
they
were
yet
while
we
were
busy
doing
industrial
activities
here,
room
startup
community
in
the
1860s
and
the
1870s
lumber
mills,
sawmills
and
cannon
sugar
be
playing
processing
plants.
D
People
for
recreation
would
go
to
the
bank
for
their
summer
resort
a
steamer
ship
out
to
the
coast
liner
to
the
peaches,
so
that
was
important
so
again
we're
restoring
access
to
the
Saginaw
Bay.
That
would
be
my
focus.
I
want
to
primarily
focus
on
three
project
areas
that
have
been
rely
primarily
on
a
focus
for
restore
access.
This.
D
Control
on
the
shoreline,
the
boardwalk
and
group
beach
box
that
you
probably
heard
about
at
the
base
of
the
state
right
area
and
possible
fishing,
pier
and
the
rest
scenic
kind
of
a
tourist
destination
that
along
the
bayfront.
Do
you
want
to
point
out?
Yes,
we've
heard
and
we've
even
thinking
about
some
of
the
quality
issues.
Many
people
many
fears,
many
organizations
for
for
a
long
time,
have
been
working
towards
restoring
the
quality
of
the
Saginaw
River
Saginaw
Bay
in
particular.
D
This
whole
area
of
public
access
is
new
only
because
up
ten
years
ago,
Vienna
who
wanted
to
go
into
the
bag
right.
We
all
heard
the
stories
of
them
back,
salute
contaminations
and
sewer
jokers
overspill
to
the
river,
so
public
access
in
each
of
the
may
even
ten
years
ago,
was
not
a
probably
word.
It's
a
critical
point
to
remember
so
these
these
these
water
trails,
that
you're
hearing
about,
are
phenomenal
three
connections
to
using
the
beds
of
its
own.
D
But
we
have
fishing
studies
unless,
even
today,
where,
where
you
fixtures,
you
want
to
fish
in
the
bag,
have
a
connecting
waterway
a
rubber
model.
But
if
you
wanna
fish
in
the
bay
where
you
go
for
that,
it's
not
really
very
accessible,
that
might
TV
studies
show
that
lampreys
fish
is
almost
non-existent
unless
you
have
a
$30,000
fishing
boat
to
get
into
the
waters
of
the
bag.
You're
likely
not
fishing
the
baits
waters
but
watches
where
identify
as
a
victim.
D
The
nineties
is
being
kind
of
Bob
shortage
of
bull
watches
and
there's
no
life
work,
Fish
and
Wildlife
Service
to
increase
those
a
DNR.
Visual
access,
codify
right
just
be
able
to
see
the
value.
Where
do
you
go
for
that?
I
mean
some
of
you
who
have
fortunate
to
live
up
the
thumb
area,
the
Huron
County
area
and
your
car
smiling.
They
can
see
the
bay
but
from
air
back
around
to
Bay
Tuscola
counties
very
very
few
areas
just
even
be
able
to
visually
access
the
bag.
D
Emergency
response
we've
had
on
that
kind
of
brought
forefront
from
the
paddle,
with
Phragmites
to
the
forefront
been
a
number
of
years
ago,
when,
during
a
heist
fishing
about
ice
fishermen
did
fall
through
the
ice
up
by
Lynwood
area.
Emergency
crews
tried
to
get
access
to
that
person
and
word
was
stacked
even
in
the
wintertime
frozen
ground
conditions,
but
because
of
the
deaths
growth
of
Phragmites
over-serving,
this
barrier
to
getting
up
to
the
ice
snow,
Sheen's
trail
riding
kayaking
blue
waves.
All
of
these
facts,
okay,.
D
Preventing
any
kind
of
effective
access
we
did
start
back
in
2012
we
started
looking
at
one
of
the
first
areas
of
access
is
how
to
have
a
blue
ace
trail.
We've
heard
about
with
coastal
trail
some
of
the
about
the
kayaking
trails.
We
started
mapping
some
of
the
shoreline
areas
its
first,
but
where
can
we
get
access?
And
this
was
a
group
of
people?
Friends,
our
brother
was
involved
number
of
people
organizations
the
scouts
were
involved.
What
we
found
was
that
and.
C
D
What
is
along
this
coastline
for
access
and
what
we
found
is
golden
red
color,
our
preserved
areas
for
wildlife
areas,
official
designated
wild
libraries.
They
are
publicly
owned,
typically
DNR
on
properties,
but
they
were
exclusively
for
wildlife,
typically
bought
Penman,
Robertson
money
that
were
for
hunting
fees
for
kind
of
wildlife
conservation
and
then
what?
Ultimately,
what
we
found
is
in
the
130
miles
of
shoreline.
We
have
91
miles
of
their
pepsouille
pod,
a
69%
of
that
was
either.
D
It
was
publicly
all
fuels
either
in
dinner,
wildlife
area,
designation
or
conservation,
either
private
conservation,
easements
with
other
nonprofits
or
or
either
like
township
old
areas.
So
we're
focusing
on
not
so
much
public
access
because
we
probably
had
a
tremendous
amount
of
public
short
run,
a
tremendous
amount.
What
we
didn't
have
was
human
access
to
that
Bay,
but
that's
critical.
While
we
were
busy
over
the
decades
focusing
on
water
quality
improvements,
what
little
protection
coastal
protection
for
habitat
and
again
because
people
have
thought
in
the
past,
you
know
70.
D
Why
would
you
want
to
access
the
me
we
lost
sight
of
how
can
humans
actually
access
that
Bay?
So,
within
130
miles,
we
can
talk
about
miles
of
coastal
wetlands
protected
for
wildlife
area,
wildlife,
refuges
for
human
access.
We
in
the
interbank,
the
army
and
the
internet.
We
have
475
feet
of
shoreline
for
public
access,
un
xf
@
peccatis
park
at
the
car
park
up
in
honey,
and
we
have
a
hundred
and
twenty
feet
of
shoreline.
That's
usable
anymore
at
the
State
Park.
D
That's
those
those
numbers
for
muttering
feet
for
human
access
miles
for
wildlife
protection
advance
an
important
concept
to
remember,
because
we
want
to
be
balanced.
We
want
to
always
protect
wildlife
habitat,
but
we
have
lost
sight
of
some
human
access.
Frank,
ladies,
was,
is
the
weed
you've?
Probably
all
seen
that
go
ahead.
We've
done
extensive
treatment
areas.
The
area
concert,
soil
conservation
districts
been
active,
SANCCOB
and
I've.
Seen
a
number
of
partners.
D
Insurance
energy
is
a
big
partner,
wires
Tuscola,
a
county
EDC
of
a
number
of
personal
Wildlife
Service
DNR.
Well,
they
have
all
been
engaged
in
doing
some
Franklin
East
control.
Finally,
around
the
bay
beach
maintenance
you've
heard
about
the
beach
maintenance
at
the
State
Park,
in
particular
a
little
Club
hundred
feet
of
shoreline,
and
we
do
have
available
at
the
State
Park
I
have
time
Commissioner
Murray
Krieger
is
here
with
us
today,
I'm
thrilled,
because
him
he
has
led
the
way
along
Reserve
Component,
Commissioner,
Mike
branch.
D
If
it
starts
getting
some
of
these
speeches
approved
both
at
the
State
Park
and
the
concomitant
County
Park,
Beach
maintenance
occurs.
We
had
to
have
Beach
maintenance
in
the
statement
bank
would
push
her
Krieger
started
doing
that
eveness.
It
was
because
of
the
month
that
greens,
without
crime
up
on
the
beach
we
couldn't
walk
through
it,
I
think
it's
important
to
understand
the
pushback
that
we
were
getting
from
the
regulatory.
D
Was
having
equipment
on
the
beach
or
have
you
moving
in
such
massive
amounts
of
luck?
That
was
the
only
way
to
do
that.
Keeping
in
mind
I
think
we've
all
on
vacation
somewhere,
whether
it's
the
west
side
of
the
state
of
Michigan
or
Florida
or
Myrtle
Beach.
This
seam
is
there
every
morning
you
get
up
early
enough,
and
this
is
what
you're
going
to
see.
Sanibel
Island
I
had
a
road
grader
right
visiting.
C
D
Hotel,
so
the
concern,
but
a
thesese
was
maintenance,
not
keeping
mine,
though,
for
us,
our
national
forests,
our
state
forests.
Those
are
just
natural
areas
left
alone
right,
those
are
maintained,
those
are
cut
there.
There's
fire
dangles
on.
Even
our
weapons
are
often
maintained.
There
are
fair
on
Lake
playing
prairies
that
are
on
protected
through
elimination
of
maintenance
eliminating
trees.
So
we
have
this
proposal
to
do
the
speech
get
a
thousand
feet
of
beach
and
a
boardwalk
at
the
state
park.
We
were
successful
to
get
the
boardwalk.
D
One
of
the
things
we
found
out
is
first,
allowing
for
beach
access,
public
access,
human
access
and
the
State
Park
was
that
much
of
the
beach
the
5,000
feet
of
beachfront.
That
is
a
lot
or
that
exists
at
the
State
Park
was
now
under
a
deed
restriction.
So
this
is
almost.
This
is
2,900
feet.
It's
got
another
six
hundred
three
thousand
feet
of
that.
Five
thousand
shoreline
was
protected
again
for
wildlife
that
this
used
to
be
all
the
active
rest,
recreational
beachfront,
but
now
deep
restrictions
had
their
place
over
the
years.
D
That
prohibited
keep
in
mind
a
recreational
Beach
from
being
established,
and
this
is
very
rare-
recreational
public
recreational
access
play
of
the
day
we
did
get
the
boardwalk.
This
was
just.
This
was
a
kind
of
proxy
for
what
we
going.
We
asked
you
in
the
boardwalk
I,
don't
know
jack
carp
or
you
can't
see
him
here
at
the
conference.
This
is
mr.
cart
and
he
was
walking.
He
lost
about
that's
a
dollar
bill,
but
he
could
walk
to
the
beach.
This
is
an
uncouth
portion
of
the
State
Park
Beach.
He
lost
his
shoe
company
laughing.
D
So
hard
to
remove
that
we're
not
seeing
that
ever
muck
anymore
along
the
beach
and
that
level
we
are
seeing
different
types
of
the
type
of
pump.
What
do
you
do?
Free
from
the
Phragmites?
Now
it's
wearing
a
black
type
of
a
feet,
type
room
up
this:
a
document
of
lakefront
beach
access
study.
This
was
approved
by
the
county
commissioners
as
well
as
the
DNR,
and
that
describes
the
projects
and
access
areas
of
memory,
foam
that
we've
been
focusing
on
these
higher
the
old.
D
D
This
is
at
the
state
park
at
the
end
of
State
Park
Drive,
because
visible
/
aliens,
Beach
Resort,
which
is
now
classified
as
a
lot.
So
just
lastly,
we're
talking
in
that
Lake
Beach
access.
How
you
may
have
heard
occasionally
on
the
news
there's
mention
about
the
effort
to
put
in
a
fishing
gear
out
into
the
bay
bay
side,
water
left
at
local
conditions.
D
Look
like
first
piece
for
than
800
feet.
This
is
a
two
part
drive.
This
is
the
curve
to
the
end
drop
in
integrating
the
City
Water
Works,
building
into
something
like
that.
There
are
some
best
channel
like
stuff,
so
we
we
need
in
order
to
do
that,
a
cost-benefit
analysis
of
preliminary
design
and
we're
kind
of
exploring
that
option.
You
know
the
other
thing
is
when
DNR
bought
this
property
and
they
put
up
the
fences,
so
there's
no
access
in
a
real
access
there.
D
This
is
what
this
is,
what
it
was
thinking,
the
home
late
50s.
This
is
just
a
box
beach
in
Spain.
What
can
be
as
far
as
the
color
kitesurfing,
we
have
all
of
the
wind,
the
natural
resources
I
skogen
township
here
dance
with
this
particular
design,
looks
like
in
the
end
a
northern
area,
there's
no
reason
why
we
can't
have
a
fishing,
pier
and
official
access
area.
So
those
are
some
of
the
access
projects
we
were
working
on.
I
urge
you
to
make
front
page
access.
Stephanie
describes
in
detail.
C
Well,
thank
you
very
much.
First
of
all,
a
compliment,
huge
progress
which
is
obviously
made
by
people
on
a
server
people
on
the
river
people
on
the
Shiawassee
River.
They
are
well
organized
they're,
highly
mobilized
and
number
of
people
that
are
working
now
and
if
some
great
progress
I
think
there's
up,
they
have
to
be
recognized
and
complimented.
We
founded
the
sacrament.
A
water
carolinas
about
2013
was
right.
After
we
were
shooting
war,
I'm
putting
together
the
map
of
possible
sites
on
Saginaw
Bay.
C
We
did
a
detailed
analysis
of
air
back
County
frontage,
they
counted
frontage
and
second
on
River
to
they
kind
of
line.
This
included
series
of
aerial
photographs
of
each
of
the
potential
sites
with
details
on
features
that
might
be
included,
such
as
parking
sign,
beach,
picnic
tables,
toilets
and
the
rest
with
cost
destinations.
So
when
the
coastal
zone
addition
of
people
who
has
supplied
us
with
a
lot
of
money,
saw
these
financial
figures,
it
was
the
first
time
anybody
done
that
time.
C
You
work
for
themselves
the
first
opportunity
they
had
to
have
a
wraparound
hundred
millions
of
dollars
of
this
larger
than
was
the
cost
and
believe
me
is
number
of
select
millions.
I
just
wanted
to
quickly
do
up
a
historical
approach,
while
I
was
a
young
couple
short
as
the
Saginaw
Bay
summers.
This
is
the
1940s
and
1950s
and
we
dealt
with
a
month
been
long
dots
for
very
common
on
Saginaw
Bay,
but
they
might
go
up
50
or
a
hundred
feet,
sometimes
even
more
than
that.
C
Over
the
years,
one
of
the
most
important
phone
numbers
to
know
was
the
guy
who
had
a
bulldozer
hated.
The
DNR
would
work
on
Sundays
when
the
DNR
officers
were
nowhere
to
be
found,
and
he
would
come
do
the
trench
in
front
varifocal
up
with
the
same
over
the
top,
but
he
couldn't
even
see
that
they
think
that
all
except
the
buttons
thought
for
a
few
weeks
anyway,
the
Saginaw
River
couple
of
licensed
e-reader
one
plant
and
there
was
a
training
base
in
there
carved
into
the
side
of
the
jig
way.
C
Island
there
was
the
head
of
navigation
in
those
days
when
they
say
Hearts
II
was
coming
and
we
thought
2nd
row
that's
going
to
become
a
boomtown
port
when
they
replace
the
Genesee
bridge.
They
made
it
a
fixed
bridge
and
the
archive
675
bridge
was
slow,
so
sagging
on
the
city
was
cut
off
from
all
this
seaport
activity.
C
The
main
thing
that
remembers,
the
childÃs
I,
never
didn't.
Freeze
I
want
to
wait.
For
a
number
of
years.
When
I
returned,
I
was
astounded
to
see
a
sunset
on
record
on
the
nectar
or
shanties
on
the
Salmon
River,
and
there
were
people
in
the
shinning,
so
we're
catching
fish
and
my
god
they're
repeating
the
fish.
C
So
there's
been
tremendous
improvement
as
a
child.
I
never
signed
eagle
on
Saginaw
Vader
on
the
Saginaw,
River
and,
of
course,
nowadays
they're
quite
common,
see
so
the
net
civilian
mark,
the
psychological
development
and
since
then,
I
got
a
tire
and
afternoons.
Tell
me
when
I
was
you
know
the
nasty
mosquito,
the
ensemble
I'm
sailor.
Okay,
what
I
had
a
few
moments?
I
would
say
a
lot
saying
are
big
and
what
tell
you,
the
shell,
the
gentleman
from
Ohio
State
said
the
depth
of
the
Saginaw
bass
20
feet.
C
C
C
I,
don't
know
how
much
you
were
aware
of
it,
but
there
were
vast
amounts
of
the
shorts
and
all
day
that
are
owned
by
corporations.
You
probably
are
not
read
the
fact
that
all
of
the
consumers
power
plants
is
built,
Saginaw,
Bay,
bottom
and
it's
built
by-
and
this
is
about
five
miles
from
lyon
to
the
other,
which
makes
it
extremely
difficult
to
access
one
side.
Other
ports
of
the
land
are
owned
by
the
dnr
quantity',
see,
for
instance,
from
the
chronic
disease
river
over
to
just
about
the
consumers.
C
Power
plant
is
Naimah,
are
seven
miles
of
a
Phragmites
plantation,
no
access.
You
can't
even
walk
through
fire,
not
deep
enough
to
get
your
feet
wet
and
so
access
points
that
are
very,
very
difficult.
You
can
go
up
to
the
on
one
point
where
you
want,
and
so
on
so
forth.
Five
vast
stretches
which
are
owned
by
the
DNR
and
there
are
for
animals
and
critters
and
they're
not
for
human
beings,
and
so
there
are
several
cases
were
between
corporations
and
governments
and
even
private
preserve
places.
C
Human
beings
are
not
allowed
access,
there's,
probably
less
access,
never
was
in
the
50s.
Actually
banker
Township
over
the
years.
It's
historically
welcomed
cottage
owners
who
wanted
to
shut
down
the
roads
that
were
next
to
them,
primarily
in
response
to
lazy
snowmobilers
that
took
like
a
morning.
They
were
using
the
roads
to
get
off
of
the
ice,
so
the
beds
of
rodents
which
had
been
lost.
B
C
Say
those
of
you
who
have
communities
along
the
road
should
be
aware
of
a
funding
source
from
the
Department
of
Agriculture,
which
is
their
tread
type
program.
Anybody
here
familiar
with
the
drill
town
program,
there's
money
on
the
table,
talk
to
them
about
that
involves
getting
your
community
involved
and
kind
of
motion,
so
kind
of
site
insurance.
The
vendor
wants
to
participate.
We,
the
short
second
Ave,
internet
and
bake
counties.
I,
was
amazing
how
few
people
even
knew
what
the
water
trail
was
and
never
tripped
out.
C
So
some
of
these
things
are
going
to
take
a
little
bit
of
time.
Unfortunately,
in
fact,
many
of
the
funding
sources
says
where's
this
excess
going
to
be
built
that
you
want
to
get
funding
for.
Well,
it's
going
to
be
a
wrote
in
such-and-such
a
Township.
Well
then,
the
end
it
has
to
be
the
town
and
that
you,
not
your
organization,
yeah,
it's
going
to
be
the
town.
C
C
We
do
the
review
of
all
the
hindrances,
all
the
things
looking
at
white
rural
development
and
they
are
extensive.
Some
of
them
are
the
ddq.
How
some
of
them
are
the
DNR.
We
approached
them
about
putting
down
carpet
pads
and
all
the
public
balls
so
visit
pads
would
they
have
to
scrape
their
bottoms
on
the
cement
there
and
all
the
public.
Both
lunches
that
went
up
to
the
waterways
division
has
said,
wait
a
minute.
C
Both
sites
were
built
with
money
from
the
stickers
that
the
fishermen
and
recreational
users
for
other
cars,
and
so
it's
reserved
with
them
and
know
where
I've
been
put
in
camping
sites
and
overnight
and
put
in
places
to
cook
food,
and
we
know
but
I
can
increase
the
size
of
the
toilets
and
all
of
us
in
fact
we're
just
zoom
attacks
and
canoes.
Don't
even
come
here
at
all,
and
this
doesn't
matter
of
fact.
A
C
We
have
a
lot
of
lot
of
issues
to
overcome
their
heats
ever
change
of
attitude
in
some
managers.
Some
of
our
government
agencies,
unfortunately,
and
if
developing
a
trigger,
is
one
thing,
but
when
you're
developing
on
the
shores
of
Great
Lakes,
you
have
something
called
the
high-water
mark
and
the
where
the
high-water
mark
is
where
the
deu
regulations
kick
in,
and
it's
practically
impossible
to
do
anything
between
the
high-water
mark
and
the
shore
of
the
bay
right,
the
impossible.
In
fact,
I.
C
C
You
put
up
a
picnic
table
and
that's
the
facility
and
then
use
a
sign
and
a
parking
lot
to
be,
in
conformance
with
a
PDA
period.
I
suggest
there
are
tremendous
number
of
sites
they
develop
up
and
down
the
rivers,
but
are
not
in
compartments
with
a
DA
and
nobody's
watching.
There's
not
such
a
thing
as
the
EDA
police.
So
to
get
away
with
a
lot
of
things,
I
won't
name
names,
but
I've
seen
dozens
of
them.
C
Okay,
it
can
get
very,
very
expensive.
One
of
the
things
I
think
we
need
to
keep
aware
of
here.
It's
just
how
expensive,
above
water
trails
really
can
be,
and
so
access
to
good
funding
becomes
a
really
really
difficult
thing,
and
in
our
experience
we
can
find
the
funding
at
the
state
level
at
the
national
level.
The
biggest
problem
is
finding
money
at
the
local
level.
C
We
have
a
couple
large
partner
foundations
down
consumers
and
some
of
the
others
who
helped
contribute
to
America.
This
is
for
the
first
money,
incoming
from
wind
and
some
of
these
other
smaller
organizations.
Many
of
these
sites
of
not
get
funded.
It's
extremely
important
for
you
to
search
through
the
inventory
available
foundations
of
the
people
that
have
money
in
the
bank
and
doing
nothing
with
that
that
exists
in
your
respective
counties
and
go
check
them
for
a
little
bit
here
that
there
are
popular
sites,
most
you've,
never
researched
and
very
deeply.
C
We
see
a
lot
of
interested
in
water,
trail
programs
now
I'm
excited
about
that
cast
which
I
want
to
see.
Hopefully,
in
due
time,
the
picture
who
talked
to
the
National
Park
Service
people
about
doing
an
entire
second
off
basin,
the
entire
network,
as
one
that
blew
the
fuse.
That
was
way
beyond
the
capacity
of
the
department,
the
injury
to
an
Arab.
So
they
have
to
be
individual
workers,
individual
rivers,
which
is
fine.
C
We
are
not
a
501c3
to
operate
with
a
memorandum
of
understanding
with
the
RCD,
which
does
have
a
501
C
3.
So
when
it
comes
to
grant
I'm
sober
breath
through
DEP,
some
organizations
are
not
501
C
3,
our
attorneys
have
told
us,
they're,
very
expensive
and
troublesome
to
get
and
you're
better
off,
probably
working
someone
with
the
memorandum
of
understanding
and
not
saying
don't:
do
it
do
it?
C
C
C
The
executive,
water,
Carroll
Alliance
has
focused
on
doing
long-range
plan
for
the
short
survey
and
the
water,
drills
and
rivers.
We've
done
studying
Latin,
not,
for
instance,
several
burgers
up
there
and
work
with
a
few
people
in
the
tent
Wasi,
and
we
favor
the
cash
shuttle
flight
systems
or
our
good
hands
are
making
great
progress.
We
are
pretty
much
acquainted
organizations
group
of
volunteers.
C
We
are
not
an
implementation
organization
and
those
of
you
who
have
been
able
to
insert
five
nations
or
your
organization's
properly
built
so
that
you
have
friends,
people
that
are
particulars
blocks
on
the
rivers
and
the
rest
start
doing
very
well
and
our
way
way
ahead.
The
next
part
of
this
whole
thing
is
to
complete
the
study
for
the
Salmon
River
from
the
Bay
County
line
to
3d
point
where
all
the
other
groups
will
ferment
and
then
we'll
be
looking
at,
but
the
biggest
turtle.