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From YouTube: Press Covid 19 Q A 8 January 2021
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Covid-19 press conference: 08/01/21
BCP Council, Public Health Dorset, Dorset NHS CCG, University Hospitals Dorset and Dorset Police were available to brief the media on the latest covid-19 situation in the BCP area and answer questions. @DorsetCouncilUK @DorsetPoliceHQ @publichealthdorset
A
Every
situation
and
how
that's
escalated
more
recently
in
the
national
lot
lockdown
we're
in
the
session
we're
going
to
run
today
is
I'm
going
to
pass
over
to
sam
crow
director
of
public
health
as
soon
as
possible,
to
give
a
a
detailed
update
as
to
as
to
where
we
actually
are
and
hope
that
would
be
really
useful
and
then
graham
farron,
the
chief
exec
of
bcp,
is
going
to
chair
a
question
and
answer
session
and
that
the
panel
we've
got
for
you
today
should
be
pretty
much
every
everybody
would
need
to
ask
questions
of
so
it's
councillor
nicola,
greene,
who's,
the
portfolio
holder
at
bcp
for
covered
resilience
and
public
health,
jan
ferger
who's,
our
director
for
adult
social
care,
sam
deraya,
from
the
dorset
police
of
delta,
police
assistant
chief
constable,
dr
karen
kirken
kirkham,
who
is
the
assistant
clinical
chair
of
nhs
ccg,
and
also
we
have
dr
alison
o'connell,
who
is
a
cmo
chief,
medical
officer
at
university,
hospital's,
dorset
and
sam
will
go
through
the
data
and
in
in
some
detail
with
you,
but
the
the
message
from
from
us.
A
You
know,
and
we
we're
now
more
convinced
we
we
need
to
be
moving
forward
towards
is.
This
is
a
very,
very
serious
time.
You
know
our
case
rates
are
doubling
and
every
five
days,
which
is
a
a
rate
of
transmission
that
we
haven't
seen
before
so
this
is.
This
is
much
more
serious
than
any
point
in
in
the
past
and
our
nhs,
which
our
colleagues
will
explain
to
you
that
the
bed
numbers
we've
reached
there
is
in
excess
of
where
we've
you
know
reached
in
the
past.
A
Our
case,
numbers
from
yesterday
were
672
per
100
000,
which
is,
which
is
you
know,
a
marked
difference
to
where
we
were
and
a
lot
down
to
the
potential
new
strain
of
the
virus.
I
won't
take
up
any
more
of
your
time.
You
know
ask
as
many
questions
as
you
can
in
the
session.
We've
got
the
panel
here
for
you,
let's
hear
from
sam
crow
to
take
us
through
take
us
through
the
data.
Thank
you,
sam.
B
Thank
you
very
much
drew
and
welcome
everybody.
I
guess
I'll
start
this
briefing
by
saying
that,
throughout
this
pandemic,
I've
tried
to
approach
my
briefings
in
a
in
in
a
way
that
gives
sort
of
calm
assurance
that
we
understand
the
magnitude
of
the
situation
that
we're
facing,
but
also
that
we're
normally
able
to
provide
some
assurance
that
we
know
what
to
do
and
that
we're
in
control
of
the
situation.
B
I
think
the
gear's
different
today
and
when
we
met
as
a
local
outbreak
engagement
board
this
week,
we
were
universally
in
agreement
that
the
situation
is
is
so
serious
now
that
this
is
the
most
difficult
phase
of
the
pandemic.
So
if
you
bear
with
me,
I'm
going
to
share
my
screen
and
I'll
try
to
convey
exactly
why
we're
so
concerned
with
some
of
the
data
so
bear
with
me
I'll
just
bring
the
slides.
B
A
B
Just
coming
through
brilliant
okay,
so
the
first
slide
that
I
wanted
to
show
you
today
was
the
epidemic
curve.
Now
it's
important
to
realize
these
are
case
numbers
so
they're
actual
diagnosis.
This
is
not
the
same
as
the
rate
per
100
000,
which
is
published
regularly
and
what
I
wanted
to
show.
You
was
right
back
in
the
early
phases
of
the
pandemic.
B
We
then
had
a
fairly
quiet
summer
period,
but
began
to
notice
an
increase
in
infections
towards
the
back
end
of
the
summer,
and
that
was
exacerbated
and
escalated.
As
people
came
back
from
holidays,
schools
started
and
we
also
had
the
return
of
universities,
and
this
is
what
led
to
the
concern
nationally,
because
it
wasn't
just
bcp
council
showing
this
pattern
and
we
went
into
lockdown
two
and
luckily
that
did
have
an
impact
on
our
local
infections.
B
You
can
see
that
tailed
off
pretty
dramatically,
but
ever
since
we
emerged
into
tier
two
and
started
to
see
some
of
the
social
mixing
in
connection
with
the
holiday
period,
we're
seeing
this
extremely
concerning
rise,
not
just
limited
to
bcp
council.
I
mean
this
is
a
pattern
which
has
been
seen
in
london
in
the
southeast
in
kent,
predominantly
particularly
through
december.
B
But
this
is
a
pattern
we
haven't
seen
before
and
it
is
putting
pressure
on
our
local
services.
So
that's
the
diagnosis
and,
as
you
can
see,
over
the
past
few
days,
we've
been
reaching
a
point
where
we're
seeing
upwards
of
500
cases
in
a
single
day,
which
we've
never
seen,
never
seen.
Anything
like
that
in
bcp
council
before
this
is
how
the
data
looks
when
we
look
at
seven
day
infection
rates
per
100
000
population.
B
So
this
enables
us
to
compare
infections
between
areas
so
I'll
just
go
back
to
that
slide
and
what
I've
done
here
is.
I've
shown
you
bcp
council
in
the
dark,
blue,
but
also
you
can
see
dorset
council
in
the
orange
some
neighbouring
councils,
like
somerset,
hampshire
and
southampton,
and
what's
striking
about
the
pattern
in
bcp
council,
is
it's
following
the
picture
that
we're
seeing
in
hampshire
and
southampton,
and
some
of
the
other
southeast
councils,
rather
than
the
more
rural
areas
in
the
southwest.
B
So
to
some
extent
the
pattern
that
we're
seeing
is
different
to
other
councils
in
the
southwest
and
is
much
more
resembling.
The
situation
that
we've
been
seeing
in
the
southeast.
The
rates
here
are
slightly
out
of
date.
So,
as
drew
said
in
his
introduction,
we
saw
a
rates
yesterday
of
670
cases
per
hundred
thousand.
B
But
certainly
I
can
tell
you
that
the
pattern
of
transmission
and
the
rate
of
rise
that
we've
seen
over
the
past
week
that
more
than
doubling
of
cases
in
a
seven
day
period
is
continuing
and
we're
likely
to
see
that
rate
increase
further
over
the
next
few
days,
and
I
think
this
slide's
quite
helpful.
So
this
is
what
we
call
a
heat
map
of
infection
rates
in
different
age
groups.
B
So
I've
shown
this
a
couple
of
times
at
different
stages
of
the
pandemic.
But
you
can
see
what
happened
between
the
christmas
eve
and
the
new
year
as
ever,
the
infection's
largely
been
driven
by
increasing
infection
rates
in
the
16
to
29
age
group.
You
can
see
just
how
quickly
the
infection
started
to
take
off
in
this
age
group.
B
So
the
predominant
pattern
that
we're
seeing
in
bcp
council,
as
in
many
other
places,
is
social
mixing,
transmission
within
households
and
visiting
friends
and
relatives,
and
just
to
show
you
what
that
looks
like
on
a
small
area
level
across
bcp
council.
I
wanted
to
show
this
slide
really
just
to
pick
up
on
this
issue.
That
I
know
is
of
interest
to
some
sections
of
the
media,
which
is
this
concept
of
hot
spots.
I
personally
think
it's
unhelpful
at
the
moment
to
be
talking
about
hot
spots.
B
To
you
know
we
are
a
hot
spot
as
bcp
council
because
of
our
infection
rate,
and
when
you
look
at
the
cases
on
a
small
area
level,
there
may
appear
to
be
large
differences,
but
sometimes
that's
because
those
areas
have
care
homes
within
them
or
they
could
have
other
institutions
that
are
experiencing
ongoing
outbreaks.
B
So
just
a
final
slide
for
me
about
some
of
the
key
messages
and
actions
that
we'd
really
appreciate
your
support
in
in
trying
to
amplify
to
our
community.
It
is
the
most
difficult
time
for
nhs
and
the
local
care
sector
and
other
public
services.
So
without
doubt,
the
pressure
that
we're
seeing
currently
is
only
going
to
get
worse
and
that's
because
the
infection
rate
that
we're
seeing
today
then
translates
into
more
people
becoming
more
seriously
ill
and
requiring
hospital
care
over
the
next
two
weeks.
B
What
we
are
hoping
is
that
the
the
move
to
strip
to
tiering
on
the
31st
of
december
and
then
the
move
to
national
lockdown
on
the
4th
of
january,
we'll
start
to
turn
the
tide
on
those
infection
rates
and
we'll
start
to
see
rates
come
down,
but
unfortunately,
that's
not
likely
to
happen
for
a
further
three
or
four
days
so
unlikely
to
see
much
change
in
the
daily
infection
rate.
Perhaps
until
early
next
week.
B
I
mean
our
key
message
today
is
that
the
nhs
and
public
services
are
a
high
risk
of
being
overwhelmed
unless
people
stay
at
home,
the
virus
is
much
more
transmissible
than
we've
seen
previously
we're
seeing
that
in
some
of
the
outbreaks
and
care
homes
and
wards,
whereas
previously
we
may
have
identified
one
or
two
cases
on
routine
testing.
We
are
seeing
some
incidents
where
all
of
a
sudden
we're
seeing
perhaps
10
residents
or
more
testing
positive
at
the
same
time,
so
we're
taking
the
step
of
publishing
this
data
on
a
more
regular
basis.
B
It
will
be
trailed
on
the
public
health
dorset
website,
but
also
on
social
media
and
we'll
be
sign
posting
the
public
and
our
media
outlets
to
the
daily
public
health.
England
updates
there's
much
much
richer
data
coming
out,
and
so
we
will
endeavor
to
do
that
three
times
a
week
and
finally,
I
was
just
going
to
say
the
leader
and
local
clinical
leaders
have
been
putting
together
quite
a
strong
video
message,
and
that
is,
I
believe,
that's
in
production
will
be
published
later
today.
C
To
take
some
questions
thanks
so
much
for
a
really
helpful
presentation,
so
we
have
to
throw
it
open
to
the
floor
any
any
questions
you
want
to
come
through.
If
you
want
to
raise
your
hand
that
might
be
helpful,
then
we
can
just
follow
it
through
from
that.
If
not
I'll.
Look
at
the
conversation
as
well
so
josh
right.
I
think
first.
D
Yes,
hi
guys
thanks
very
much
for
that,
it's
really
helpful
to
get
a
bit
of
an
understanding
of
where
things
are
at.
I
just
had
a
couple
of
questions
really
in
terms
of
vaccinations.
How
are
we
doing?
Where
are
we?
I
noticed
the
other
day
that
another
part
of
the
southwest
had
now
vaccinated
all
of
its
over
80s.
D
I
was
wondering
where
we
were
in
terms
of
similar
kind
of
levels
in
within
that
age
group,
and
then
the
second
is
in
terms
of
the
I
saw
from
your
graphs
just
now,
sam.
It
showed
that
case
numbers
had
pretty
much
doubled
since
kind
of
christmas
time,
and
I
mean
the
expectation
is
that
that
will
translate
in
a
week
or
two
into
into
more
hospitalizations.
D
I
suppose
it's
a
question
for
allison,
really
how
how
prepared
are
we
for
that
in
our
hospitals?
Is
that
something
we'll
be
able
to
to
deal
with
when
it
comes?
Thank
you.
B
I
was
going
to
suggest
perhaps
myself
and
and
karen
might
want
to
pick
up
the
vaccination
question.
I
mean
I
think
in
general.
You
know
this
is
a
program.
That's
been
stood
up
very
very
quickly.
As
I'm
sure
you're
aware.
Government
has
been
quite
careful
not
to
put
too
much
firm
information
into
the
public
domain.
I
think
we
will
see
that
change
quite
quickly,
so,
as
the
vaccine
supply
starts
to
really
increase,
then
we
will
start
to
see
much
more
transparency
about
about
delivery.
B
What
we
do
know,
I
mean
I'm
happy
to
say
this
independently
as
director
of
public
health.
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
confidence
that
our
delivery
models
are
ready
to
go.
So
when
the
vaccine
supply
starts
in
earnest,
we'll
be
in
a
very,
very
good
position
to
start
to
see
those
numbers
really
climb
but
I'll
hand
over
to
to
karen,
who
may
want
to
say
a
little
bit
more.
E
Okay,
thank
you
sam.
Yes,
so
I've
been
involved
in
the
running
of
the
local
vaccination
program.
From
the
start
we
are,
we
have
gradually
scaled
up
the
sites
from
which
we've
been
delivering
the
vaccine.
E
We've
obviously
got
a
hospital
hub
site
that
came
online
in
the
first
week
and
then
since
then,
we've
stood
up
steadily
that
the
primary
care
network
vaccination
sites
at
scale-
and
we
will,
by
next
week,
have
all
17
in
operation
we've
been
very
clear
about
vaccinating
the
cohort
of
over
80s
first
and
to
that
end
we
are
doing
really
well
in
terms
of
the
numbers
that
or
have
already
been
vaccinated.
E
We've
just
got
two
or
three
areas
where
we
will
be
pushing
on
that
in
the
next
week
or
so,
and
we've
also
got
a
considerable
number
of
care
homes
that
have
already
been
vaccinated.
So
we've
got
really
good
data.
We
know
who
to
pull
the
general
practices,
are
all
working
extremely
hard
and
together
and
are
vaccinating
over
weekends.
E
We
had
new
year's
day
and
and
bank
holiday
and
vaccination
programs
going.
We
are
pulling
out
all
the
stops,
we're
pulling
down
as
much
vaccine
as
we
possibly
can
and
if
the
supplies
flow
well,
then
we
will
we're
ready
to
to
vaccinate
every
day
of
the
week
to
get
the
vaccinations
done,
but
we're
doing
really
well
with
a
fair
wind.
We
will
have
that
cohort
vaccinated
very,
very
quickly
and
and
completely.
C
It's
worth
emphasizing
as
well
as
the
local
authority.
We
said.
If
there's
anything,
we
can
do
to
help
we.
You
know
we
have
some
spare
capacity
at
the
moment,
because
we've
had
to
close
some
facilities.
So
if
there's
anything,
we
can
do
to
divert
those
people.
Just
just
let
us
know
clearly
they
can't
they
can't
actually
administer
the
the
vaccine,
but
they
might
be
able
to
administer
the
the
processing
of
people.
E
Yeah
absolutely
thank
you
and
that's
and
that's
a
great
example
of
system
working.
Yes,
it's
not
just
about
having
the
technical
ability
to
vaccinate,
but
it's
also
about
the
admin
staff
and
support
staff
and
volunteers
and
marshals
who've,
actually
just
swung
into
action
and
helped
us
make
this
happen.
So
thank
you
so.
F
Yeah
yeah,
thank
you
very
much
and
and
and
I
think
what
sam
has
described
about
the
doubling
of
casey
since
new
year's
eve
is
absolutely
what
we're
seeing
in
the
hospitals.
So
we
have.
You
know,
we've
had
a
doubling
in
the
number
of
admissions
with
who
are
covered
positive
and
in
that
period
of
time,
and
we
are
not
sure
at
the
moment
where
that
we
have
seen
and
the
full
effect
yet
of
chris
christmas
day
mixing.
We
think
it's
probably
the
into
the
beginning
of
next
week
before
we
will
have.
We
will.
F
We
will
have
come
out
of
that,
that
initial
bubble,
and
so
that's
an
unfortunate
choice
of
barb,
because
it's
bubble
has
different
context
and
in
the
covert
sense
and
the
we've
when
we've
also
seen
arise
similarly
in
the
number
of
people
who
are
in
our
intensive
care
units
again
that
has
doubled
since,
since
just
before
christmas,
I
think
one
of
the
things
I
think
it's
really
important
for
people
to
hear.
F
The
message
about
at
the
moment
is
that
we
are
seeing
people
who
are
coming
in
who
are
younger
and
sicker
than
they
were
first
time
around,
and
I
think
that
has
been
a
surprise.
You
know
there
was
quite
a
lot
of
coverage
in
the
the
press
last
week
around
pediatric
wards
it.
You
know
we
certainly
are
not
in
a
situation
where
we've
got
many
many
children
with
covered,
but
we
are
actually
seeing
children
being
admitted
with
cover
that
we
didn't
see
in
the
first
wave,
and
so
so.
F
This
is
like
this
is
feeling
like
a
very
different
position
than
we
were
back
and
going
back
to
march
or
april,
and
you
are
be
prepared.
We
are
doing
absolutely
everything
we
possibly
can
do
to
be
prepared.
You
know
we
have
already
stepped
down
elective
work.
We
have
converted
clinical
areas
to
be
able
to
cohort
covert
positive
patients.
F
We
are
looking
at
our
staffing
models
to
redeploy
people's
to
make
sure
that
we've
got
appropriate
staffing
to
care
for
people
and
who
come
into
the
hospital.
So
we
are
we're
all
working
our
socks
off
to
make
sure
that
we
are
ready
and
we
are
absolutely
prepared
for
the
fact
that
the
numbers
that
we're
seeing
are
not
where
this
is
going
to
top
out.
We
are
expecting
to
see
significantly
more
patients
over
the
next
end.
Couple
of.
G
Yes,
sir,
thank
you
very
much
for
your
update.
Clearly,
we
haven't
yet
seen
the
full
effect
of
both
christmas
and
probably
more
alarming
than
the
new
year.
Do
you
think
that
quite
a
lot
of
the
rise
is
directly
linked
to
those
events
and
and
probably
linked
to
that?
As
I
drive
between
home
and
the
radio
broadcasting
studio
in
the
first
lockdown,
it
was
very
evident
that
the
traffic
on
the
roads
was
considerably
lighter
and
now
it's
there
is.
G
There
isn't
much
difference
being
noted
and
I
just
wondered
to
what
degree
the
message
of
staying
at
home,
and
particularly
that
as
that
relates
to
work,
is
actually
penetrating
the
general
public.
C
Okay,
who
wants
to
pick
this
one
up,
so
I'm
going
to
go
first.
B
Yeah
thanks
graeme
I'll,
perhaps
start
it
and
then
others
can
come
in.
I
think
it's
probably
a
combination
of
factors
to
be
honest
blair
I
mean
there's
been
a
lot
of
questions
asked
about
whether
this
is
new
variant
covered
and
how
much
might
be
here.
It
is
winter.
It's
a
respiratory
virus
people
endorse
much
more
and
we
know
that
there's
been
mixing
between
households
and
all
of
those
factors
are
those
that
epidemiolog
epidemiologists
would
say
will
lead
to
an
increase
in
transmission
in
terms
of
the
stay
at
home
message.
B
I
mean
it's
partly
why
we
wanted
this
briefing
today,
just
to
try
to
get
over
to
the
public
as
quickly
as
possible,
just
how
serious
the
situation
is
so
stay
at
home
means
stay
at
home
and
unless
your
role
is
absolutely
critical
and
you're
on
that
defined
list,
and
the
guidance
is
on
the
government
website
that
you
cannot
work
from
home
and
you
still
have
to
go
to
work
to
keep
essential
services
going.
Then
you
really
shouldn't
be
going
out
at
all,
and
I
sort
of
frame
that
coming
back
to
to
personal
risk.
B
One
of
the
things
that
I
think
people
forget
is
that
the
asymptomatic
transmission
is
not
well
understood.
You
know,
possibly
one
in
three
people
will
have
this
virus
and
not
have
any
symptoms.
B
C
Yeah
we're
we.
Unfortunately,
I
can't
get
the
traffic
figures
until
this
afternoon,
but
we're
looking
at
traffic
flows.
So
if
there
is
anything
in
there
that
that's
of
use
we'll
circulate
that,
but
I
think
my
sense
is
that
in
the
first
lockdown
in
a
construction
site
stopped,
the
housing
market
was
suspended.
C
It
was
a
lot
tighter
than
at
the
moment.
The
message
now
you
know
very
much
is
work
from
home
if
you
possibly
can.
But
if
you
can't,
you
know,
you
can
still
go
to
work
that
has
changed
and
I
think
we're
seeing
higher
levels
of
attendance
of
children
at
schools
continuing.
So
I
think
all
of
those
factors,
I
think
you
know
you
would
just
have
to
ask
the
question:
does
it
feel
as
tight
as
the
first
lockdown,
and
I
think
the
answer
is-
is
no
from
from
personal
experience.
C
So
those
are
all
issues
that
we
need
to
factor
in.
You
know
that
there's
bound
to
be
a
degree
of
weariness.
Isn't
there
in
a
lockdown
on
and
off
over
the
last
nine
months
is
bound
to
to
have
some
effect.
So
I
think
that,
as
sam
said
this,
we
need
this.
This
sort
of
press
conference
try
and
get
some
of
those
messages
across
again
nicholas.
Do
you
want
to
come
in.
H
Thank
you.
Yes,
it
was
really
just
to
bring
those
two
things
together
and
hello
blair,
it's
so
nice
to
see
you
we've
had
incremental
increases,
haven't
we
in
what
we
can
or
we
can't
do
over
really
back
since
the
summer,
and
therefore
I
think
we've
got
into
the
habit
of
taking
incremental
steps
up
or
down,
whereas
actually,
what
we
need
to
remind
ourselves
is.
H
This
is
locked
down
this
isn't
you
know
a
nuance
between
tears
and
therefore
we
need
to
get
ourselves
as
much
as
possible
back
into
that
mindset
of
the
first
lockdown
and
those
very
clear
messages
that
sam
was
articulating
about
stay
at
home,
really
mean
to
stay
at
home.
C
Okay,
let's
bring
in
emily.
Do
your.
C
I
That
was
me
on
the
phone
I
was
trying
to
join.
You
she's
gone,
I'm
sorry,
my
questions,
I'm
just
representing
bbc
radio
station
tristan.
As
you
will
know,
most
of
you
is
on
leave,
but
I
am
sitting
in
bournemouth.
I
was
a
bournemouth.
Residence
obviously
have
lots
of
interest.
I
have
three
questions.
I
Without
wanting
to
be
like
the
man
on
sky,
one
for
the
assistant
chief
constable,
if
possible
about
policing
this
weekend
or
visitors
towards
the
area
from
outside
of
the
area,
particularly
I'm
thinking-
you
know
the
hampshire
end,
where
perhaps
they
have
a
higher
rate
than
us,
even
one
for
nicola
green,
if
possible,
about
school
schools
this
week
and
the
levels
of
applicants
you've
had
for
key
worker
and
vulnerable
children
placements
where
I
know,
because
I
live
around
the
corner
from
starfield.
I
That
they've
had
to
ask
for
the
key
worker
list,
not
all
of
them
to
go
because
there
isn't
space
for
them
all,
and
I
know
that's
happened
in
many
places
around
the
whole
of
the
solemn
patch
and
then,
if
possible,
if
alice
and
o'donnell's
still
there
about
whether
or
not
we're
at
the
stage
of
cancelling
operations,
elective
surgery,
what
level
of
outpatient
services
still
being
provided
at
the
hospital.
I
know
that's
three
separate
questions
so
sorry
for
being
needy.
C
Okay,
that's
fine!
So
sam.
J
Yeah
yeah
yeah
I'll
come
in
yeah
no
problem,
so
so
we've
been
really
clear
that
it
is
around
about
staying
at
home.
Obviously
there
are
exemptions
and
you
can
travel
for
reasons
that
are
listed
really
clearly
on
the
legislation.
J
We
have
actually
put
a
a
bit
of
a
request
back
into
government
through
the
national
avenue
around
what
close
to
home
means
and
trying
to
get
some
clarity
around
that.
But
what
I
would
ask
people
to
think
is
you
know
this
is
about
essential
travel.
J
So
if
you
are
traveling,
you
need
to
stop
and
ask
yourself
if,
if
that
is
needed
for
you
as
an
individual,
to
be
able
to
go
out
and
get
in
your
car
or
walk
down
the
street
to
go
somewhere
and
what
that
means
and
why
you're
doing
it
and
very
much
in
terms
of
policing
over
over
the
weekend
and
our
approach
hasn't
really
changed
in
terms
of
the
engage,
explain,
educate
and
then
enforce
as
a
as
the
last
sort
of
opportunity
for
us
to
use
the
legislation.
J
But
you
know
we
are
taking
a
really
proportionate
approach
to
that
in
terms
of
speaking
to
people
finding
out.
Why
they're
out
and
about
if
we
are
stopping
and
speaking
to
people
and
and
and
stopping
those
traveling,
and
if
there
are
good
reasons
for
that,
then
we'll
take
a
proportionate
approach.
If
people
haven't
got
a
good
reason
for
that,
then
they
will
be.
J
We
will
use
enforcement
and
we
will
use
ticketing
around
the
legislation
because
we
are
here
to
make
sure
that
our
services
are
protected,
that
we're
protecting
the
nhs
that
we're
protecting
our
communities
and
and
going
back
to
the
previous
question
around
the
impacts
it's
having
on
all
of
the
public
services.
You
know
we
we're
up
to
10
now
in
terms
of
sickness,
which
has
been
a
real
increase
from
christmas
and
new
year,
and
I
think
we're
finding
that
across
the
services
about
how
we're
all
balancing
our
own
workforces.
J
So
when
people
are
deciding
to
go
out
and
travel
or
you
know
to
come
into
the
area,
what
they've
got
to
think
about
is
what
are
the
pressures
that
they're
putting
into
that
system
into
that
community
and
what
difference
it
really
makes.
But
the
communication
very
clearly
from
us
is
we're
not
open
for
business
if
you're
traveling
it
has
to
be
for
good
reason.
C
The
the
bcp
population
is
about
150th
of
the
so
you'd
say
it's
getting
on
for
a
thousand
people
in
hospital
or
requiring
some
sort
of
medical
attention.
After
road
traffic
accidents
cut
those
in
half,
you
reduce
the
pressure
on
the
hospitals.
You
reduce
the
pressure
on
the
nhs
nicola.
I
think
the
second
one
was
for
you,
sorry,
you're
still
on
mute.
H
Okay,
sorry
about
that,
I
think,
if
anything
demonstrates
the
interconnectivity
of
everything,
then
the
school
places
is
is
one
of
those
things,
and
this
shows
the
things
both
the
same,
and
things
are
very
different.
This
time
and
because
you
know
there
was
always
the
opportunity
for
certain
of
our
cohorts
to
access
school
places.
H
But
this
time
around
government
have
broadened
that
definition
of
critical
workers,
and
I
think
it
has
to
be
a
good
thing
and
it
can
include
one
of
two
parents
and
that
even
if
you're
home
working
it
doesn't
preclude
you
from
from
accessing
a
school
place.
H
What
that
has
meant,
though,
is
that
there
are
large
numbers
now
who
of
parents
who
are
seeking
to
send
their
children
to
school,
and
schools
clearly
are
juggling
that
tension
between
staying
open
for
children
of
critical
workers
or
those
who
are
you
know
otherwise
in
need
of
a
school
place
and
managing
their
online
curriculum.
So
you
know
for
schools
there
is,
there
is
a
tension
there
and
it's
creating
some
pressure,
and
certainly
we
need
to
thank
them
for
doing
their
very
best.
H
We
are
still
working
on
what
the
impacts
of
that
are.
You
know
emily.
I
know
you've
you've
done
some
work
on
this
on
on
so,
and
I'm
not
surprised
at
all
to
hear
that
it's
not
a
regional
picture.
The
the
actual
numbers
will
have
a
better
idea
of
later
on
today,
but
there
is.
There
is
a
a
great
challenge
for
schools
this
time
around
in
providing
places
and
the
online
curriculum
and
that's
still
sort
of
sorting
itself
out.
H
But
you
know,
as
others
have
mentioned,
the
workforce
for
public
services
is
also
the
community
for
public
services.
So
you
know
our
whichever,
whichever
profession
you
look
at
absence
rates
are
rising,
because
this
this
virus
is
so
fast
spread
within
the
community.
You
know,
people
who
have
key
jobs
to
do
are
also
vulnerable
to
it,
and
therefore
it's
really
important
that
the
schools
are
able
to
provide
places.
So
the
people
who
need
to
go
to
work
can
go
to.
G
H
And,
and
in
in
brief,
stay
in
touch
with
your
school,
you
know
schools
tend
to
have
those
very
direct
and
very
good
links
with
their
communities,
and
I
know
that
you
know
every
primary
school
and-
and
the
secondaries
too,
will
do
their
very
best
to
be
open
for
every
child.
That
needs
a
place.
G
C
F
Thanks
for
your
question
emily,
so
I
think
we
have
to
remember
that
we
we
again
as
as
we're
hearing
from
others,
we're
in
a
different
situation
than
we
were
first
time
around
where
actually
there
was
a
an
actual,
a
national
mandate
to
shut
down
elective
work,
to
free
up
capacity,
and
that's
not
the
situation
we're
in
now,
and
that's
probably
a
good
thing,
and
because
we
were
really
aware
of
the
potential
for
heart,
non-code
related
harm
by
delaying
treatments
to
patients.
F
So
the
message
is
still
there
that
people
who
need
urgent
treatment
absolutely
need
urgent
treatment
and
we
want
them
to
come
to
hospital
and
we
don't
want
them
to
not
seek
attention
for
things
that
might
be
serious
and
but
they,
but
the
reality
is
that
we
are
now
in
a
situation
where
we
have
begun
to
cancel
and
the
the
the
the
lower
priority
elective
work.
We
are
still
absolutely
continuing
with
the
cancer
and
the
urgent
work,
but
we
are
beginning
to
step
that
down
and
that's
a
combination
of
things.
F
It's
a
combination
of
having
to
redeploy
workforce
elsewhere.
It's
a
combination
of
having
to
use
our
hospital
spaces
and
our
inpatient
beds
in
different
ways,
and
it's
a
and
it's
and
it's
and
there's
also
an
element
of
critical
care
capacity
and
which
are
all
feeding
into
and
getting
that
balancing
act
right
about
how
much
elective
work
can
we
do
and
how
much
do
we
need
to
stand
down.
I
F
F
We
are
continuing
to
try
and
do
as
much
outpatient
work
as
we
can
and
as
karen
will
be
able
to
talk
to
you
know,
we've
done
a
huge
amount
of
work
across
dorset
as
a
system
in
terms
of
increasing
our
capability
to
deliver
outpatient
services
remotely
using
video
consultation
and
telephone
consultation,
and
actually
that
didn't
really
go
away
between
wave
one
and
wave
two,
and
now
that
was
that
was
seen
as
a
really
positive
thing,
and
we
continue
to
do
that.
F
I
Do
you
have
a
sickness
figure
like
the
police,
do
a
percentage.
F
Yeah
yeah,
I
can't
actually
give
you
the
percentage
off
the
top
of
my
head
and
it's
I
I
don't
want
to
give
the
wrong
figure,
because
that
would
be.
That
would
be
unfair.
So
we
have
our
background
and
sickness
rate
that
we
have,
and
we
are
also
monitoring
the
absence
that
is
related
to
covered
and,
and
that
is
up
above
our
normal
background
sickness
rate,
and
it
has
fluctuated
some
time
complete
periods
of
time.
F
So
we're
in
a
situation
at
the
moment,
as
others
will
be
where
we
had
had
many
of
our
patients
who
were
shielding
so
their
staff
who
were
shielding
had
come
back
to
work.
They
are
now
a
number
of
them
are
now
shielding
again
and
we
have
we
have
and
patients
who,
as
I
said,
I
keep
using
the
patients.
That's
not
what
I
mean
staff
who
are
also
off
either
because
they
are
and
isolating
or
because
they
are
symptomatic,
and
that
is
above
our
background
and
sickness
rate.
J
Yeah,
I
just
wanted
to
add
really
about
around
us
managing
the
sickness
across
the
police
service.
So
we've
had
contingency
plans
in
place
really
from
last
year,
ready
to
go
if
our
sickness
rate
started
to
creep
up,
so
they've
kicked
in
over
this
last
week,
just
recognizing
at
the
different
position
we're
in.
I
did
just
want
to
mention
just
some
of
the
the
policing
as
well.
J
That
will
continue
and
we
have
covered
police
vehicles
specifically
dealing
with
incidents
related
to
covered
breaches
that
are
out
on
patrol
on
a
daily
basis
and
we're
also
now
proactively
out
on
our
roads
and
arterial
routes,
looking
at
stop
checks
and
and
looking
at
some
of
the
the
issues
that
we're
facing
as
far
as
people
traveling
into
the
area
are
concerned.
So
it's
just
to
confirm
that.
Thank
you.
C
Okay,
all
right
thanks
so
much
any
other
questions
from
anyone.
Any
other
points
we
haven't
covered
blair.
G
Yeah
just
a
couple
of
things,
I
mean
all
the
things
that
people
can
do
like,
for
example,
going
to
supermarkets
or
even
going
to
the
petrol
station
to
to
fill
up.
Are
there
any?
Is
there
any
evidence
that
points
to
the
fact
that,
even
though
people
are
allowed
to
do
those
things
that
in
fact,
there's
a
very
high
risk
in
those
areas
as
well,
given
the
high
rates
of
transmission?
G
That's
one
area.
The
other
question
is:
where
are
we
in
terms
of
the
nhs
being
able
to
cope?
Are
we
close
to
to
capacity
and
being
overwhelmed
close
enough
for
you
to
be
to
be
concerned
about
it
and,
of
course,
the
other,
perhaps
more
piece
of
good
news
is
that
with
1600
marshals
having
been
recruited
to
help
when
the
vaccine
does
start
to
flow,
are
we
are
we
confident
that
we
can
get
those
those
folk
operational
fairly
quickly
and,
of
course,
that
the
vaccine
supply
would
be?
G
C
Okay,
so
let's
go
sam
on
the
first
question,
then,
let's
pick
up
from
there,
I
think
we're
carrying
on
the
vaccination
issues.
That's
okay,
yep!
So,
sam
infectious,
oh
yeah,.
B
Thanks
thanks
graeme
blair,
I
think
in
all
in
all
honesty
hard
to
quantify,
and
the
reason
is
that
when
we
get
information
through
on
the
basis
of
contact
tracing
interviews,
quite
often
supermarkets
may
be
mentioned
as
somewhere.
Whether
people
have
visited
over
the
past
seven
days,
but
that's
not
the
same
as
definitely
being
able
to
say
that
that's
where
they
contracted
the
virus.
B
I
think
when
we
look
at
the
data
at
scale,
what
the
overwhelming
pattern
of
transmission
remains:
transmission
within
households,
there's,
obviously
a
question
as
to
where
that
individual
member
in
the
household
first
picked
it
up
from,
but
it's
difficult
to
say
as
a
general
rule
of
thumb
anywhere
indoors,
where
you're
spending
time
in
close
proximity
to
other
people
that
increases
the
risk
of
infection.
B
If
it's
an
outdoor
filling
station
and
it's
a
very
short
trip
to
the
filling
station,
you
remain
outdoors.
It's
probably
lower
risk,
but
it's
hard
to
say
with
any
degree
of
specificity.
C
E
Yeah
yeah,
I
I
will
do.
I
also
just
want
to
reiterate
the
social
distancing,
the
hand
washing
when
you
get
back
in
the
face
mask
wearing.
You
know
the
the
complete
essentials
to
the
way
we
we
live.
Our
lives
right
now
are
really
incredibly
important.
Blair,
so
can
just
stick
to
those
principles,
all
the
time
and
be
obsessive
about
it
in
terms
of
the
vaccination
program
endorse
it.
So
we've
got
15
of
our
network
sites
already
up
and
running,
as
well
as
the
hospital
sites.
E
We've
just
got
two
left
to
come
online.
It's
a
push
model
for
from
the
national
team
for
vaccination,
so
the
supply
comes
to
us.
We
don't
really
have
very
much
control
over
when
that
comes
whatever
we
are
given.
E
We
are
vaccinating,
and
that's
the
first
thing
to
say
so
that
probably
needs
to
have
confidence
that
we
are
giving
as
much
as
we
get
and
when
we
move
to
what
they're
calling
a
pull
model
we'll
be
able
to
pull
it
down
in
greater
quantities,
we're
training,
lots
and
lots
of
staff
as
well
to
help
us
do
this.
So
so
you
know
to
to
maintain
as
much
business
as
usual
in
general.
Practice
as
well
is
also
really
important
because,
as
allison
said,
we're
still
trying
to
deal
with
the
usual.
E
You
know
we
want
to
see
urgent
cases.
We
don't
want
people
to
not
come
because
you
know
they're
worried
about
contacting
the
gp
if
they
think
you've
got
a
cancer
or
a
chest,
pain
or
a
stroke
symptoms.
We
need
to
see
them
so
we're
trying
to
do
that
at
that
as
well,
but
the
vaccine
and
as
it
flows
we
are
delivering
it.
C
Yeah
thanks
karen
that's
helpful
and
then
so
then,
the
the
the
ultimate
question,
probably
more
for
allison
in
terms
of
nhs
capacity,
it
is
just
worth
saying,
is
that
this
is
something
we've
been
discussing
across
the
whole
system,
because
when
you
think
about
nhs
capacity,
you've
also
got
to
think
about
the
capacity
of
social
care
to
accommodate
those
that
are
coming
out
of
hospital,
et
cetera.
So
also,
if
you
want
to
start,
then
I
might
bring
janet
afterwards
to
talk
about
the
social
care
industry.
F
Absolutely-
and
I
think
I
was
going
to
make
a
very
similar
point,
graham-
that
this
is
not
just
about
the
hospitals,
it's
about
the
whole
of
the
system.
It's
about
it's
about
primary
care,
it's
about
access
to
pharmacy,
it's
about
the
ambulance
service,
it's
about!
It's!
It's
about
the
care
homes
and
our
community
providers.
It's!
It
is
the
whole
thing
that
is
really
important
and,
and
they
you
know-
and
we
are
taking
this
really
seriously
blair.
You
know
we
have
got
a
you
know.
F
You
know
a
meeting
at
the
very
senior
level
of
the
trust
which
has
stood
up
twice
a
day
where
we
are
absolutely
looking
at
what
is
coming
into
the
hospital.
What
is
going
on
with
the
hospital
where
our
staffing
pressures
are-
and
you
know
how
many
patients
we've
got,
how
we're
going
to
manage
them
and
optimize
the
capacity?
You
know
that
that
is
absolutely
going
on.
F
We
are
overwhelmed,
but
it
is
really
tight
and
it's
really
stretched
and
we
absolutely
do
not
want
to
be
in
the
position
where
and
we
we
become
a
hospital
that
is
a
covered
hospital
and
we
cannot
treat
the
other
people
with
really
serious
conditions
that
need
to
be
need
to
be
managed.
You
know,
so
we
are
doing
everything
we
can
do
to
make
sure
we
don't
get
into
that
situation.
C
K
Thank
you
graham,
so
I
just
want
to
reiterate
what
alison
has
just
said
and
graham
said
we're
working
across
the
health
and
social
care
system,
with
with
daily
meetings,
looking
at
the
whole
situation
and
planning
for
the
coming
weeks
and
looking
at
how
we
can
all
collaborate,
I
would
want
to
say
a
huge
thank
you
and
recognition
of
all
the
work
of
everyone
in
the
care
sector.
K
K
Inevitably,
when
there
are
more
community
infections,
there
is
again
more
covid
in
in
the
staff
groups,
and
there
are
more,
as
some
said,
there
are
more
situations
where
covid
is
a
factor,
for
instance
in
care
homes
at
the
moment.
So
the
message
about
stay
at
home
is
also
about
protect
the
nhs.
It's
also
around
protect
our
care
sector
and
we
are
having
to
work
with
our.
K
For
instance,
our
care
homes
around
the
advice
around
family
visiting
family
visiting
is
permitted
under
the
national
guidance
to
care
homes,
in
certain
circumstances,
very
controlled
circumstances,
but
really
at
the
moment
we're
having
to
say
to
our
to
our
families
in
the
community
and
our
care
homes
and
our
care
home
residents
that
the
risks
are
very
high
and
that
actually,
at
the
moment,
visiting
really
needs
to
be
in
essential
situations
and
and
that
people
need
to
be
really
mindful
of
that.
And
we
know
how
difficult
that
is
for
families.
C
Thanks,
that's
really
helpful.
It
is
just
emphasizing
the
the
pressure
in
the
system
is
throughout
the
system.
Isn't
it
it
isn't
as
if
we're
saying
okay,
we've
got
pressure
at
one
point
here,
the
the
rest
of
it
can
take
up
to
slack.
There
is
pressure
throughout
the
system
and
I
think
the
you
know
the
the
points
that
sam
made
about
the
increasing
case
numbers,
and
I
think
it
was
alison
said
earlier.
C
So
what
we
see
in
hospital
now
is
those
that,
were
you
know,
first
coming
positive
sort
of
two
three
weeks
ago
that
that
that's
the
area
where
we're
looking
at
the
most
concern
is,
as
those
case
numbers
continue
to
rise.
C
What's
the
knock-on
effect
on
hospitalizations
there's
an
interesting
comment
about
the
changing
age
profile
of
those
that
are
in
hospital,
but
but
even
if
you
just
took
the
over
60s-
and
you
looked
at
those
figures
that
sam
showed
for
the
growth
in
positive
cases
in
the
over
60s,
then
actually
there
is
an
issue
for
concern
so
across
the
system.
I
think
we
would
flag
that
concern
but,
as
everybody
said,
I
think
we're
working
across
the
system
to
resolve
it.
If
we
can
are
there
any
other
final
questions
before.
I
After
random,
one
that
came
in
in
a
phone-in,
we
did
a
phoning
about
whether
or
not
you
should
be
going
out
for
your
exercise.
Blah
blah
and
one
of
our
listeners
phoned
in
and
asked.
I
If
we
would
ask
you
if
you
would
consider
the
july
august
ban
on
bikes
on
the
prom
during
this
lockdown,
because
there
is
so
much
sand
on
the
prom
there's
quite
a
lot
of
the
problem,
that's
quite
hard
to
walk
along
and
if
bikes
are
going
on
the
bit,
that
is
effectively
the
easiest
bit,
then
I
mean
I
want
my
dog
down
there
most
days.
I
can
tell
you
it's
quite
squishy
bits
of
the
prom
that
are
easy.
I
Would
you
consider
bringing
in
the
july
august,
ban
on
bikes
between
10
and
6
to
make
it
easier
for
people
to
enjoy
the
seafront
and
perhaps
a
few
more
keep
left
signs
on
a
bit?
That
is
more
my
end,
the
southbourne
end,
because
people
don't
seem
to
understand
that
if
you're
talking
towards
someone,
if
you
both
go,
you
know
there's
a
lot
of
action.
C
A
Yeah,
I
I
will
briefly
and
very
you
know
it's
a
very
difficult
balancing
act,
because
when
we're
trying
to
get
people
outside
of
public
transport
as
well,
then
you're
also
trying
to
keep
you
know,
keep
the
arteries
on.
So
it's
not
something
we
we're
looking
to
do.
We
can
keep
it.
We
can
keep.
We've
got
our
covered
marshals
which,
which
are
you
know
there
and
deployed
at
certain
points.
So
it's
something
we
keep
under
review,
but
it's
not
something
we're
looking
to
do
at
the
moment
for
kind
of
a
mix
of
reasons.
A
Really,
if
anybody
has
another
answer
to
it
than
that,
then
please
bill
feel
free
to.
I.
C
Think
the
thing
I'd
add
to
that
is-
and
I
haven't
actually
had
this
conversation
yet,
but
it
came
up
this
morning-
is
whether
we
have
people
who
are
currently
being
furloughed
or
being
redeployed
out
from
their
current
job.
That
could
help
to
get
the
sand
off
the
promenade,
because
one
of
the
issues
last
year
you'll
remember.
We
had
some
really
strong,
onshore
winds,
and
I
think,
february
and
march
and
april
there
was
still
sand
on
the
promenade
in
you
know,
and
it
got
in
the
way
of
people
traveling.
C
I
Yeah
I
mean
the
promenade
road.
You
know
the
over
cliff,
particularly
it's
not
officially
as
busy
as
it's.
You
know,
so
in
a
way
that
that
you
could
almost
the
road
along
the
top.
I
mean
you
know
the
prop
yeah
I
mean
the
prom
is:
is
is
tricky
to
get
along
that
poison.
I've
literally
just
come
back
from
there
and
there's
a
lot
of
sand,
so
it
would
make
it
easier.
Are
people
not
allowed
to
use
their
beach
hut
as
well
at
the
moment,
because
it's
recreation,
isn't
it
not
exercise
that.
I
C
A
We've
given
out
you
know
the
current
guidance
we've
given
out
is
you
can
you
use
your
beach
huts
but
it?
But
you
need
to
check
that
you
can
respect
social
distancing
when
you're
doing
it.
So
that's
our
published
guidance
on
it.
C
J
Had
a
chance
to
use
it
this
year
I
was
gonna,
I
was
gonna
say
as
well.
If
you,
if
you
go
back
to
what
we
were
talking
about
at
the
beginning
about
you,
justifying
why
you're
there
and
how
long
you're
there
for
and
whether
that's
spilling
out
onto
the
path-
and
you
know
whether
people
are
just
using
it
as
an
opportunity
to
get
out
and
meet
other
people.
You
know
those
were
some
of
the
questions
that
we've
been
asking.
J
If
you're
popping
down
there
for
10
minutes
and
putting
the
kettle
on
having
a
cup
of
tea,
that's
a
bit
different
to
going
down
there
and
spending
time
as
a
large
group,
and
I
don't
think
that
looks
good
to
the
rest
of
the
community,
and
I
don't
think
that
I
think
that
encourages
people
to
think
that
they
can
can
meet
up.
So
I
think
it's
about
everybody
playing
their
part
really.
A
Good,
absolutely
absolutely
thank
you
sam.
I
think
we've
also
got
a
hand
from
from
josh
as
well.
So
should
we
come
back
to
josh.
Thank
you.
D
Yes,
thanks,
I'm
about
to
say,
I've
got
three
more
questions,
but
I'm
hoping
they're
all
quick
fire
ones,
so
it
won't
take
too
long
they're
just
points
I
was
hoping
to
clarify
in
terms
of
hospital
impatience
at
royal
bournemouth
and
paul.
What's
the
latest
figure
the-
and
this
might
be-
I'm
hoping
sam
might
be
able
to
help
with
this
one.
What
percentage
of
new
infections
are
of
the
new
variant
and
then
the
third
question
is
last
month
there
was
some
talk
about
the
bic
being
used
as
some
kind
of
vaccination
center.
D
B
Yeah,
so
the
new
variant,
I
think
it's
important
to
say
that
at
the
moment
they
are
not
currently
able
to
genotype
every
single
pcr
test
result.
B
So
I
would
assume
that
a
lot
of
the
transmission
that
we're
seeing
is
probably
new
variant
covered,
even
though
we
can't
definitely
say
that,
but
you
just
have
to
look
at
the
pattern
compared
with
other
councils
that
have
definitely
had
lots
more
new
variant
to
see
that
there
is
something
different
going
on.
Whatever's
been
happening
locally
has
been
much
much
more
transmissible
in
the
past
few
weeks,
but
I
think
that's
all
that
I'd
want
to
say
at
the
moment,
because
we
don't
genotype
every
single
sample.
C
F
Yeah,
so
it's
kirsty's,
just
put
in
the
latest
data,
that's
been
published
on
the
government
website,
which
is
205
on
the
5th
of
january.
What
I
would
say
is
that
it
is
it's
it's
rising
significantly
from
that
we're
never
above
270,
as
of
and
what
I
can
see
on
our
live
dashboard
at
the
moment.
So
that's
a
measure
of
how
quickly
that
has
claimed
in
three
days.
C
Yeah-
and
I
think
that's
the
thing
is
that
the
the
hospital
decibel
shows
it
changing
daily.
Okay,
so
josh
was
there
anything
else
in
there
that
you
didn't
get
answered,
then.
C
A
C
It
is
intended
to
be
used
as
a
mass
vaccination
site.
I
think
in
due
course-
and
I
think
that
in
due
course
is
sort
of
in
the
next
week
or
two
so
that
sort
of
period
yeah,
okay,
any
other
questions
or
comments.
C
C
Okay
and
well,
I
hope,
that's
been
useful
and
if
there
are
any
other
questions,
obviously
fill
them
through
normal
channels
and
we'll
pick
them
up,
and
if
we
get
any
other
information
that
we
didn't
sort
of
add
to
any
any
detail
from
today.
We'll
let
you
have
that
over
the
next
couple
of
hours.
If
anything
else
does
come
in.