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From YouTube: Beacon Council Workshop 5-9-22
Description
May 9, 2022
7:00 PM
City Council Agenda
Roll Call
Notice of Meeting Location - May 9, 2022
1. Discussion Regarding Short-Term Rentals
2. Setting a Public Hearing to Allow Members of the City Council of the City of Beacon to
Participate in meetings via Videoconferencing
3. Discussion Regarding the Selection of Community Investment Program Recipients
4. Discussion Regarding the Status of City of Beacon Committees
1. Executive Session
A
Thank
you
so
much
for
the
information.
Duly
noted,
all
right,
hey
everybody.
This
is
the
workshop.
That
means
we're
doing
our
homework
and
you
all
can
listen
in
and
only
talk.
If
we
ask
you
to
participate,
it
is
a
hybrid
meeting,
which
means
you
could
be
online
as
well.
I
actually
have
an
announcement
first
and
I
will
do
it
again
at
the
official
meeting
and
I
will
put
out
probably
a
video
on
channel
22,
which
is
about
assessment
letters.
A
So
about
this
time
around
the
first
of
may,
we
send
out
letters
for
changes
in
assessment.
We
are
a
full
value
assessment
community,
which
means
your
assessment
should
be
somewhere
in
the
ballpark
of
market
value,
usually
a
little
bit
less,
and
it's
really
important
to
understand
what
that
means.
I've
been
looking
to
get
actually
some
explanatory
information
in
our
letters
and
it
hasn't
happened.
This
is
kind
of
ch,
you
know
boilerplate,
but
let
me
explain
what
the
issue
is.
A
All
our
assessments
in
beacon
went
up
a
lot
this
year.
Our
taxes
will
only
go
up
a
tiny
bit
right
now,
tiny
bit
the
way
that
we
can
ensure
it's
only
a
tiny
bit
is
if
this
group
on
the
table,
when
we're
doing
our
budget,
only
increase
the
tax
levy.
That's
the
total
tax
pie
by
a
tiny
bit.
If
we
do
that,
that
means
whatever
your
assessments
are,
doesn't
matter
and
I'll,
tell
you
how
this
works,
so
my
particular
home
went
up.
A
A
lot
about
16
or
17
percent-
I
can't
calculate
it
exactly
but,
as
I
understand
it,
all
homes
in
the
residential
portion
of
our
tax
base,
so
the
one
and
two
and
three
family
homes
all
went
up
by
about
that
amount.
Now
some
may
have
gone
up
more
and
some
may
have
gone
up
less.
It
will
depend
on
the
circumstances,
but
if
every
home
and
beacon
goes
up
by
exactly
the
same
percentage,
nothing
happens
to
your
taxes.
That
means
your
share
of
the
total
tax
pie
remains
identical
right.
A
A
That
means
our
tax
rate
is
going
to
come
down
by
about
that
amount.
Unless,
at
budget
time
we
raise
the
total
tax
levy
now,
in
addition,
each
year,
the
last
several
years,
our
tax
base
has
gotten
bigger,
not
because
properties
have
increased
in
value,
but
there's
more
properties
right,
so
there's
new
properties
coming
online
last
year,
it
was
in
the
two
to
three
percent
range.
This
year,
it's
in
the
two
to
three
percent
range
again.
Now
what
that
means
is.
A
We
can
increase
the
tax
levy
by
that
two
or
three
percent
and
it
doesn't
affect
any
existing
taxpayer
right,
because
it's
new
property
right,
so
we're
going
to
get
that
benefit
again,
where
the
first
two
or
three
percent
there's
an
exact
number.
Our
assessor
will
tell
us
what
that
is,
and
then
anything
above
that
will
hit
taxpayers
right.
A
So
we'll
see
that
when
tax
time,
when
budget
time
comes-
but
that's
when
this
will
occur,
but
I
can
bet
a
lot
of
money
that
your
you
know:
people's
taxes
aren't
going
up
15
on
average
or
whatever
this
average
is
okay,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
people
are
aware
of
that
and
it's
a
complicated
area
so
I'll
say
it
a
couple
of
times
and
I'll
also
put
it
on
tv.
This
is
one
area
I
actually
I'm
pretty
knowledgeable
in.
Will
any
questions
on
that.
A
Right
what
happens
in
may
is
is
the
assessment
letters
go
out,
saying:
hey
we
looked
as
of
july
1.
We
came
up
with
this
number
for
all
the
properties
because
we're
a
full
value
community.
Everyone
gets
one
of
these
letters,
even
if
it
doesn't
change,
and
then
you
have
an
opportunity
to
grieve
your
assessment
toward
the
end
of
may
and
there's
a
process
for
that
and
we'll
share
that
information
as
well
right,
but
then
none
of
it
well.
A
The
first
bill
that
we'll
take
into
account
the
new
assessments
is
the
school
tax
that
comes
in
the
fall
right,
but
again
whether
the
school
tax
is
up
is
a
function
of
what
the
school
board
does
in
terms
of
approving
their
budget
and
how
much
they
approve
it
by.
But
they
too
will
have
that
first,
two
or
three
percent
kind
of
a
freebie,
because
that's
all
new
properties
coming
in
online
and
beacon.
C
A
Right
and
they're
having
an
election
this
month
and
that's
actually
the
lion's
share
of
the
property
tax
in
beacon.
There's
this
very
small
piece:
that's
a
library,
budget
tax
and
then
there's
two
other
components:
those
occur
in
the
fall
and
then
in
january
is
the
portion.
That's
the
city
and
the
county.
So
there's
four
taxes
spread
across
two
bills:.
D
A
Glad
you're
still
alive
hope,
you're,
okay,
okay,
that's
all
I
had.
I
just
wanted
to
make
that
one
announcement
and
any
questions
that
will
help
explain
to
the
community.
What's
up,
I
think,
will
be
helpful
for
them
and
we'll
keep
pushing
that
information
out.
Okay,
all
right
first
topic
is
short-term
rentals,
and
what
I
wanted
to
do
here
is
two
things
I
wanted
nick
to
take
us
through.
A
E
E
E
Our
office's
position
that
beacon's
zoning
ordinance
addressed
short-term
rentals
in
the
prior
version
by
stating
that
it
was
not
a
permitted
permitted
use
of
mayor
for
the
city
would
have
to
adopt
regulations
to
allow
it
and
the
city
had
a
number
of
workshop
meeting
public
hearings
and
discussions
sort
of
come
to
a
consensus
as
to
how
to
regulate
short-term
rentals.
Again.
E
And
if
you
look
at
section
222-264,
which
is
in
the
packet,
that's
where
the
city's
regulation
of
short-term
rentals
lies
and
in
chapter
section
8
is
entitled.
Findings.
I'm
just
going
to
read
a
little
bit
from
it,
because
you'll
provide
a
little
bit
of
the
background
of
the
discussion
that
the
city
had
over
several
meetings
and
where
the
city
council
at
that
time
ended
up
with,
and
it
reads
that
the
city
council
has
determined.
It
is
in
the
best
interest
of
the
city
and
its
residents
to
regulate
short-term
rentals.
E
E
E
E
So
there
there
was
a
special
provision
written
in
that
you
have
three
substantial
written
complaints
in
a
12-month
period
concerning
the
use
of
the
premises
of
short-term
rental,
then
the
permit
to
allow
a
short-term
rental
could
be
revoked,
so
beacon,
recognized
that
short-term
rentals
should
be
regulated,
but
they
should
be
allowed
in
all
zoning
districts,
and
it
was
just
a
matter
of
making
sure
that
they
were
registered.
Short-Term
rentals
are
not
prohibited
in
terms
of
enforcement.
E
It's
really
on
a
case-by-case
basis,
and
at
that
time
the
city
recognized
that
it
would
be
a
complaint
based
enforcement.
The
city
wasn't
going
out
and
spending
the
resources
to
investigate
and
evaluate
who
was
doing
a
short-term
rental,
but
rather
it
would
be
as
it
is,
with
any
enforcement
of
the
city's
zoning
orders.
E
Likewise,
with
establishing
the
primary
residence
there
are
criteria
set
forth
in
the
law.
The
burden
of
proof
is
on
the
city,
then,
to
go
through
and
establish
that
it
is
not
an
individual's
primary
primary
residence
and
again
it's
a
matter
of
the
enforcement
and
the
burden
being
on
the
city
to
establish
that
it
has
to
the
satisfaction
of
the
court
established
that
any
of
those
individuals
have
not
been
in
compliance
with
the
law.
E
But
given
that
the
intent
here
is
to
allow
short-term
rentals,
it's
not
particularly
difficult
for
someone
to
establish
that
they're
in
compliance,
because
it's
allowed
in
all
zoning
districts.
It's
allowed
for
in
single-family
homes,
two
family
homes,
multiple
dwelling
units-
and
you
just
need
to
register
by
establishing
that
you
are
the
owner
occupant
of
that
of
that
unit.
E
F
A
E
E
E
A
C
E
A
Okay,
yeah,
and
that
was
different,
and
I
appreciate
you
going.
You
know
letting
me
take
you
through
those,
because
I
remember
this
was
a
long
process
and
when
we
started
this,
we
were
not
as
focused
on
the
impact
on
the
rental
housing
market
of
short-term
rentals,
and
I
think
we
were
allowing
more
of
them
than
the
final
law
that
we
ended.
Up
with.
The
final
law
we
ended
up
with
is
pretty
restrictive.
It's
got
to
be
the
one
that
you're
living
in
that
you're
short-term
rattling
out.
A
H
F
B
F
In
life,
early
on
with
the
law,
some
of
them
were
actually
covet
related.
Some
some
neighbors
and
and
people
of
the
public
were
concerned
that
a
lot
of
people
from
the
city
were
coming
up
here,
and
so
there
was
that
that
concern
the
other
one.
The
the
main,
the
main
complaint,
really,
I
think,
is
some
people
are
not
comfortable
with
not
knowing
their
permanent
neighbors.
F
F
I
I
guess
the
biggest
problem
I
have
with
the
way
the
law
is
written
right
now.
Is
that-
and
I
understand
the
difficulty
of
enforcement
is
that
it's
based
on
on
complaints-
and
I
think
we
could
all
agree
that
I
mean
I,
I
know
many
building
many
freestanding
buildings
that
are
being
rented
out
full-time
for
airbnb,
not
occupied
by
any
anyone,
and
I've
heard
about
a
lot
of
apartments
being
taken
off
the
market
and
there's
not
actually
people
complaining
about
that.
I
I
There's
so
many
possibilities
in
this,
but
if
we
could
get
the
data-
and
I
think
I
don't
know
if
you've
all
heard
about
what
they're
doing
in
highland
and
cold
spring
they're
they've
got
software
and
I
think
the
county
uses
it
as
well,
and
maybe
that's
what
you're
going
to
refer
to
in
terms
of
getting
their
assistance.
Yeah.
F
I
B
B
Be
getting
rid
of
are
ones
that
are
not
primary
homes
for
the
person
and
and
then
the
the
second
part
of
that
is.
Even
if
you
identify
those
we
we
have
the
burden
of
proof
when
we
go
into
court
to
say
you're
doing
this,
for
you
know
you're
in
violation
of
the
law
and
that
that
becomes
more
and
more
difficult
and
and
time
consuming.
I
Yeah,
I
guess
I
agree,
I'm
sure
that's
the
case,
but
I
think
no
one's
going
to
follow
the
law
if
they
know
it's
not
being
you
know
followed
through
on
so
I
think
we
have
to
even
if
it
takes
us
an
investment
on
our
part,
an
early
investment.
I
think
it's
going
to
you
know,
have
a
slow
impact
on
on
people,
not
obeying
the
law,
so
yeah.
F
A
Right,
but
I
think,
there's
two
categories
that
are
out
there:
we
just
don't
know
how
many
there
are
they're,
the
ones
that
aren't
registered,
that
are
eligible
and
can
register
right.
Those
are
the
ones
you're
mentioning
and
then
there's
also
the
ones
that
are
out
there
that
actually
don't
comply
with
our
law
right,
they're,
not
owner
occupied,
and
by
being
able
to
identify
what's
out
there.
F
A
I
F
I
B
It's
through
a
company
called
granicus
which
actually
we
have
another
subscription
for
and
the
county.
The
county's
interest
in
having
these
registered
is
that
they
collect
a
four
percent
hotel
tax.
So
in
exchange
for
us
as
a
community
helping
to
get
these
registered,
they
will
pay
the
annual
cost
of
the
subscription
for
granicus
we've.
B
B
What
the
interface
with
that
system
looks
like
what
data
we
get.
An
initial
conversation
lets
us
know
that
they
can
pinpoint
these
on
a
map.
They
don't
have
addresses
for
everyone
and
they
will
find
out
more
about
whether
or
not
they
can
give
us
the
number
of
days.
These
are
rented,
and
so
that
that
could
give
us
information
and
then
there's
a
part
of
this
software
package,
where
you
can
generate
letters
out
to.
D
B
B
E
Yeah,
no,
no,
that's
correct!
That
is
a
provision
we
built
in
into
the
law
that
there's
a
presumption
of
evidence,
so
we
would
have
to
go
to
court
produce
a
copy
of
the
listing.
The
court
would
then
say:
that's
presumptive
evidence
under
the
law
and
it's
then
a
rebuttable
presumption,
meaning
the
individual
would
then
have
the
burden
of
establishing
that
they
have
not
established
a
short-term
rental
net
they're
not
actually
listening,
they
listed,
but
they
never
were
successful.
E
B
Now
we
had
the
same
issue
earlier
this
year
with
short-term
rental
of
pools,
because
there's
applications
like
swim
play
where
people
are
renting
their
pool
out
by
the
hour
that
was
causing
and
generating
a
lot
of
complaints
in
neighborhoods,
and
we
we
again
got
to
the
point.
Well,
how
do
I
know
that's
a
transaction
as
opposed
to?
Oh
that's,
just
a
bunch
of
my
friends
I
had
over
and
we
don't
have
that
system
in
place
for
swimply,
but
we
can
get
this
now
for
short-term
rentals
that
are
that
are
involved
apartments.
So.
A
You
know
the
way
I
let,
let's
assume,
there's
a
hundred
units
out
there.
Short-Term
rentals
just
make
up
the
number
and
let's
say
that
25
have
registered.
Hey,
that's
great,
I
think
there's
more
out
there
and
I
think
fewer
have
registered,
but
it
doesn't
matter
we'll
just
use
rough
numbers
so
of
the
remaining
75.
D
A
Occupied-
and
my
only
concern
is-
is
the
100-day
limit
less
important
to
me?
The
more
important
would
be
the
50
out
there
that
I
remember
I'm
just
making
numbers
up
that
don't
qualify
at
all
under
our
statute,
but
are
out
there.
Those
are
the
ones
that
I
think
are
affecting
the
market
that
we
have
a
pretty
good
case.
B
F
No,
we
when
the
law
was
passed.
I
I
spoke
with
nick
and
we
actually
put
a
grace
period
in
because
we
thought
we
were
really
going
to
be
bombarded
and
and
with
all
the
applications.
So
I
I
would
say
we're
getting
we're
getting
a
little
more
activity
now
with
with
the
sdr
permits.
So
I
would
say
it
wasn't
initially
up
front.
It
was
very
few
up
front
but
as
as
time
is
going
on,
we
seem
to
be
getting
a
little,
not
a
lot,
but
a
little
bit
more.
F
F
B
E
With
this
phase-in
period
again,
it
was
adopted
in
june
of
2020
justice
covenant
was
taking
its
full
impact
and
it
provided
for
registration
after
october
1st
of
2020,
because
the
council
recognized
that
were
prop
some
booking
commitments
that
would
have
extended
beyond
june
right
july
or
august,
and
so
it
was
deemed
to
phase
it
in
to
allow
those
commitments
to
be
honored
as
well
as
so.
The
building
department
didn't
get
a
rush
of
permits.
A
Yep,
so
with
those
numbers
you
know,
140
I'd
be
thrilled
if
70
of
them
would
qualify
and
register
and
I'd
be
even
more
thrilled.
If
there
were
70
that
didn't
qualify.
That
then
decided
to
do
regular,
rentals
right
and
that's
the
those
are
the
ones
I
think
have
the
biggest
impact
in
our
market
if
someone's
living
in
their.
If
it's
their
primary
residence
and
they're
renting
it
out
for
more
than
100
days,
it's
still
their
primary
residence.
They
can
only
do
it
once
they
can't
do
it
on
four
other
units,
right.
I
H
I
I
B
B
E
That's
that's
correct.
It
requires
a
local
law
request
by
municipality
to
albany
that
they
adopt
the
law.
Both
houses
have
to
pass
and
then
the
governor
has
to
sign
it.
There
used
to
be
resistance
to
those
types
of
local
hotel
taxes,
but
that
seems
to
have
gone
away
and
it's
more
readily
granted,
but
it
does.
It
requires
local
support.
A
A
J
E
I
did
chris
hey
sophie,
it's
in
general,
section
1.3
of
the
city
code,
which
steps
forward
that
it's
a
fine
not
to
exceed
a
thousand
dollars
and
that's
really
defined,
because
if
anything
above
that
or
imprisonment
longer
than
15
days
would
then
be
considered
a
felony.
And
so
it's
kept
at
those
levels.
So
that's
a
misdemeanor
and
it's
at
the
discretion
of
the
court.
F
G
A
G
It
seems
to
me
that
if
we
want
to
increase
capacity,
we're
going
to
need
money
and
that
maybe
we
should
be
setting
up
a
fund
where
all
of
the
fees,
fines
and
everything
that
we
collect
with
regards
to
non-compliance
goes
into
this.
But
it's
also
an
argument
for
having
a
three
percent
tax
on
airbnb,
because
that
could
generate
the
revenue
that
builds
the
building
department
capacity
to
enforce
the
law.
G
A
Yeah
so
again
I
just
trying
to
prioritize.
You
know
the
of
the
140.
If
half
don't
qualify,
I'd
love
to
see
all
70
of
those
out
the
door
and
rent
it
as
regular
units
right,
I
mean
anything
more
than
30
days
is
great
and
then,
if
the
other
half
are
all
you
know
qualified,
then
I
certainly
like
them
registered
but
I'll
be
honest.
Knowing
your
budget,
knowing
how
much
revenue
of
the
building
department
has
generated,
I'm
not
too
worried
about
you
not
having
funds.
A
F
F
Force
us
to
take,
I
mean
just
just
for
the
just
for
the
council's
info,
the
the
way
that
the
way
that
prosecutions
work
is
is
at
first
in
order
to
remedy
it's
issued,
citing
the
violation
with
a
time
frame
on
it
and
then
the
time
if
the
time
frame
is
not
complied
with.
That's
what
triggers
in
order
to
remedy
violation,
to
proceed
to
court.
That's
the
next
step,
so
we
always
try
to
make
sure
that
we,
if
we
send
in
order
to
remedy
that,
we
can
prove
it,
because
we
understand
that
it.
F
F
I
F
A
B
D
A
F
F
A
B
A
A
E
C
If
we
do
end
up
revisiting
the
law,
I
know
we
haven't
made
that
decision
yet
that
I
think
the
100-day
requirement
would
also
be
something
I'd
be
curious
to
talk
about
whether
or
not
it's
worth
having
in
our
law
anymore.
I
wouldn't
necessarily
revisit
it
just
for
that,
but
if
we're
visiting
it
anyway,
that
might
be
a
thing
to
bring
up
and
decide
upon.
C
So
I'm
imagining
george-
and
this
is
something
not
george,
sorry,
dan,
that
there's
you're,
you
know
you're
an
empty
nester.
You
have
a
home,
you
had
a
family
and
the
family
has
moved
out
for
a
variety
of
actually
larger
economic
reasons.
You
actually
cannot
sell
your
home
and
move
into
something
else,
which
is
a
whole
separate
conversation,
and
so
because
of
that,
what
you
do
is
you
then
rent
out
a
room
in
your
house,
and
you
decide
that
you
like
it.
C
You
find
people
that
you
like,
and
so
you
continue
to
live
there
and
have
a
series
of
people
come
through
and
that
might
be
the
situation
for
people
in
beacon,
other
communities.
So
in
that
case
it
might
end
up
being
over
100
days
and
also
it
is
your
primary
residence.
So
that
might
actually
be
true.
The
number
of
our
older
residents
here
in
in
beacon-
and
it
might
not
be,
but
that's
an
example
of
why
it
might
not
actually
be
a
good
fit
for
our
community.
G
B
G
And
so
I
actually,
when
we
were
working
on
that
law
in
the
last
council,
I
was
advocating
for
a
smaller
number
that
is
basically
every
single
weekend
of
the
year,
so
someone
could
be
here
on
weekdays
and
go
on
a
weekend
trip
every
weekend
and
rent
out
their
home,
and
that's
that's
disruptive.
That's
part
of
the
disruptive
disruption
that
george
is
talking
about.
I
think
100
days
is,
is
far
too
high,
but
I
think
we
do
have
to
have
a
number
limiting
that.
A
A
Even
if
one
of
those
becomes
the
person's
primary
residence,
we
get
nine
back
on
the
market
same
with
apartments.
We
said
all
the
apartments,
if
you
own
it,
unless
you
live
in
the
one
and
then
only
the
one
you
live
in,
so
I
I
think
that
this
is
sort
of
the
small
part
of
the
problem.
So
I'm
willing
to
look
at
what
molly's
you
know
suggestion
is
I'm
not
saying
we
know
any
of
the
answers,
but
I'm
willing
to
kind
of
work
work
on
that.
A
little
bit.
B
I
I
also
do
think
for
this
conversation
it's
important
to
realize.
We
don't
have
a
lot
of
hotels
and
beacon,
and
this
is
filling
a
critical
role
for
for
short-term
lodging
for
visitors,
and
we
know
that
from
data
that
the
county
puts
out
that
when
somebody
stays
overnight,
they
spend
a
lot
more
money
in
the
community
than
if
they
come
up
and
do
a
day
trip.
So
it's
also
like
this
is
playing
a
role
in
in
our
local
economy,
and
I
I
don't
think
we
should.
I
B
A
A
J
We
had
discussed
at
one
point
considering
a
mailer
or
some
such
about
housing,
information
for
owners
and
renters
alike,
and
just
sort
of
getting
the
information
out
there
making
sure
people
are
aware
of
all
of
the
various
housing-related
laws
we
we
have
and
I'm
not
sure
where
that
sort
of
lies
in
our
priorities
or
on
the
agenda.
But
I
just
wanted
to
bring
it
back
up
as
an
idea.
D
B
I
would
suggest
we
focus
on
the
issue
at
hand,
which
is
the
as,
as
the
mayor
said,
any
of
these
units
they're,
not
primary
residences,
and
and
focus
our
outreach
on
that,
rather
than
trying
to
figure
out
every
housing
law
and
and
send
a
mailer.
I
I
don't
know
nick.
Are
you
comfortable
with
us
even
doing
that.
E
Well,
I
think
the
question
becomes.
There
are
resources
where
that's
already
provided
by
other
agencies,
that
we
could
refer
them
to.
We've
done
a
number
of
community
segments,
but
for
the
city
to
offer
opinions
on
housing,
laws
and
compliance
and
how
that
works.
I
think,
is
going
to
be
problematic.
We'd
have
to
see
more
of
the
details.
G
I
mean
I,
I
really
wanted
to
do
a
mailer,
sorry,
plum,
I'm
having
a
hard
time
finding
my
place
in
the
conversation,
so
I
didn't
mean
to
interrupt
I'll
just
quickly
say
that
some
of
us
wanted
to
do
a
mailer
around
the
substance
of
good
cause
eviction
for
not
just
for
tenants,
but
also
what
it
meant
for
landlords.
So
perhaps
this
could
be
kind
of
like
a
a
more
general
memo
or
a
general
mailer.
J
A
Yeah,
I
I
think
you
know
being
able
to
reach
folks
is
an
important
part
of
what
we
have
to
do
as
a
community,
but
I
think
it's
a
another
discussion.
That's
and
you
know
we'll
get
there
right
yeah.
It's
amazing
right,
because
you
think
I
got
swift.
We
got
swift,
9-1-1,
we've
got
emails,
we've
got
website,
we've
got
social
media
and
I
I'll
be
honest.
A
The
for
me
the
absolute
way
to
ensure
that
I
hear
people
as
I
go
knock
on
doors
and
when
you
do
that
every
couple
of
years
or
in
this
news
chair
every
fourth
year,
you
hear
a
lot
that
and
you
get
to
people
that
you
can't
ordinarily
get
to
so
but
yeah.
Let's,
let's
put
it
up
as
a
topic
at
some
point,
all
right.
J
A
E
E
So
if
you
were
in
hawaii,
you
could
go
on
vacation
still
attend
a
meeting,
but
you
had
to
give
72
hours
notice
that
you
would
be
at
the
marriott
and
the
people
would
come
in
ten
in
your
room
or
in
the
lobby,
wherever
you
noticed
the
meeting.
Obviously,
during
the
pandemic,
that
became
difficult
because
you
wanted
to
socially
distance
from
people.
So
that's
why
we're
there
were
a
series
of
executive
orders,
the
most
recent
of
which
expires
on
may
15..
E
The
proposed
amendment,
which
is
the
section
103
a
not
the
proposed
the
adopted
amendment
rather
dispenses
with
the
requirement
of,
if
you're
attending
virtually
that
you
have
to
allow
the
public
to
attend.
It
also
dispenses
with
the
requirement
that
it's
72
hours,
advanced
notice,
has
to
be
given
recognizing
people
become
sick
on
less
than
72
hours
notice,
so
the
new
law
would
have
to
be
affirmatively
enacted
by
the
council
to
allow
the
council,
members
or
other
public
bodies
to
attend
virtually
without
giving
72
hours
notice
and
excluding
the
public
from
that
remote
location.
E
A
couple
of
caveats:
the
law
is
what
I'm
referring
to
is
103a
that
allows
non-public
attendance.
Virtual
meeting
only
allows
a
minority
of
the
membership
to
attend.
A
majority
must
still
be
attending
in
person
via
the
traditional
ways,
either
in
person
or
by
a
pre-pandemic
over
meetings
law,
virtual
video
conferencing
notification.
E
E
E
Additionally,
you're
only
allowed
to
take
advantage
of
this
103
a
requirement
right,
the
virtual
attendance
on
less
than
72
hours
notice,
and
only
a
minority
composition
of
the
board.
If
there
are
extraordinary
circumstances,
you
need
to
adopt
a
policy
defining
what
those
extraordinary
circumstances
are
it's
within
your
discretion.
E
So
this
isn't
exactly
what
legislative
bodies
were
hoping
albany
would
adopt.
Many
people
were
hoping
that
albany
would
adopt
a
much
more
broader
virtual
attendance
policy
because,
quite
frankly,
I
think
everyone's
experience
is
being
positive
with
the
virtual
attendance
and
the
accessibility
to
to
government,
but
the
albany
is
considering
other
versions
of
the
law,
but
the
only
current
version
that's
been
adopted.
Is
this
minor
modification
to
the
open
meetings
law
that
allows
virtual
attendants
subject
to
adoption
of
a
policy
in
extraordinary
circumstances?
E
And
you
don't
need
to
provide
72
hours
notice?
You
don't
need
to
provide
notice.
You
don't
have
to
allow
the
public
to
attend.
So
the
two
discussion
points
for
the
council
are:
do
you
wish
to
allow
the
council
members
to
take
advantage
of
this
modified
open
meetings?
Well,
video
conferencing
requirement:
you.
E
Bodies
you
had
that
authority.
We
have
not
provided
for
that
in
this
local
law,
because
in
discussions
with
the
administration,
the
virtu,
the
public,
the
meetings
of
the
plain
board
and
zoning
board
are
not
held
virtually
not
hybrid
meetings,
and
that
would
create
some
extra
costs
and
administrative
burden.
C
I
have
a
thank
you
nick
for
that,
a
question
about
in
the
state
law.
Does
it
prescribe?
Who
decides
whether
or
not
something
qualifies
as
an
extraordinary
circumstance
like
what
once
we
draft
once
we
were
to,
if
we
were
to
adopt
our
own
policy?
Who
then
agrees
that
someone's
circumstances
indeed
constitute
being
extraordinary.
E
K
B
E
I
that
question
has
been
asked
as
to
the
purpose,
because
if
it's
a
videotape
is
archived
where,
why
is
the
the
demand
for
a
written
transcript
when
minutes
are
made
available
right
requirements
to
provide
benefit
a
transcript,
they
also
have
not
defined
transcript.
Is
it
meant
to
be,
as
you
know,
done
by
a
stenographer,
or
can
it
be
done
by
computer?
Could
it
be
handwritten?
B
A
D
A
Feeling
well
still
wants
to
participate,
so
that
would
say
you
know
dan's
example
today
would
permit
that
going
forward
after
june
the
next
one
caregiving
responsibilities
kind
of
fits
there.
You
could
kind
of
see
how
that
would
work.
A
business
trip
I
get,
but,
for
instance,
vacation,
isn't
considered
extraordinary
right
or
nick.
Are
we
allowed
to
define
that
one?
A
E
Are
I
think
chris
and
I
have
discussed
because
you
made
48
out
of
the
52
weeks.
I
think
you
could
define
right
some
extraordinary
circumstances,
given
other
obligations
and
commitments
between
work
between
family,
between
scheduling
holidays
that
maybe
given
the
fact
that
you
meet
so
often,
you
could
qualify
that
your
discretion
as
a
extraordinary
circumstance.
My.
E
And
you
don't
have
to
make
the
decision
now,
but
the
current
ability
to
hold
these
hybrid
meetings
and
again
the
hybrid
means
you
can
continue
to
allow
the
republic
to
attend
and
observe
their
law
only
regulates
the
council
members
attendance
june.
4Th
is
when
that
law
expires,
but
that's
why
this
is
being
discussed
now,
but
you
have
that
ability
to
adopt
this
law
at
any
point
in
time.
E
E
A
E
That's
up
to
your
discretion,
because
the
council's
discretion,
because
you
establish
how
you
run
your
meetings,
but
they
would
not
be
treated
as
a
council
member
because
they're
not
in
attendance,
because
they
couldn't
account
for
attendance,
but
you
have
that
ability.
If
you
want
to
allow
a
speaker
to
speak
on
a
particular
topic,
you
could
do
so
in
your
discretion.
A
A
E
A
E
Yes
and
that
it
doesn't
necessarily,
I
think,
achieve
what
everyone
thought
it
would
achieve,
but
that's
the
downside,
it's
the
potential
cost.
If
someone
were
to
request
it
right,
you
could
be
ten
meetings
into
this
and
you're,
and
then
you
have
to
maintain
these
records
for
five
years,
so
someone
could,
if
they
were
wanted
to,
could
request
a
transcription
of
all
meetings
upon
which
its
exemption
was
inactive.
For
the
last
three
years,.
J
C
E
J
E
Think,
well,
I
think
chris
gave
a
chris
read
from
what
the
transcript
is.
I
think
the
question
became
is:
was
there
a
way
to
print
the
captions?
If
you
were
if
a
video
was
caption
enabled-
and
I
don't
know
the
answer
to
that-
but
the
definition
chris
read
from
made
clear
it
had
to
be
a
separate
medium
and
had
to
be
in
writing
and
be
able
to
be
printed.
D
E
E
That
would
probably
not
be
deep
to
be
passing
in
good
faith,
and
you
also
just
have
the
perception
issue
that,
even
if
it's
only
five
percent
not
transparent,
will
you
be?
Will
the
council
or
city
be
criticized
for
not
providing
something
that
is
clear
and
concise,
and
now
we're
having
a
debate
over
the
quality
of
the
transcript
potentially
for
three
years
work
somewhere
to
make
that
request
retroactively.
A
C
Is
there
any
cost
chris
two
to
having
recordings
available
for
five
years?
I
know
on
our
website.
We
don't
currently
offer
them
that
far
back,
but
I
don't
know
if
that's
just
because
we
remove
them
because
they're
deemed
not
as
relevant
or
if
that's
actual
cost
to
have
them
or
maybe
even
on
the
website.
I
guess
they
could
be
archived
somewhere
if
someone
requested
them.
A
C
C
So
I
don't
know
if
it's
possible
to
get
costing
of
services
and
they're
both
the
cost
of
the
money
we
paid,
but
also
the
staff
time
as
well,
to
just
make
sure
that
if
we
did
want
to
go
this
the
benefit
for
those
of
us
who
attend
city
council
and
might
want
to
take
advantage
of
this,
it
could
put
an
extra
burden
on
the
staff.
So
I
would
want
to
see
know
a
little
more
about
that.
E
E
J
I
I
mean,
I
think
it's,
it's
always
good
to
have
as
many
voices
on
the
council
as
possible
speak
at
a
council,
but
on
the
other
hand,
there's
been
there's
never
been
an
issue
of
a
quorum.
There's
never
been
an
issue
of
a
lack
of
voices,
so
occasionally
someone
is
sick,
so
I
don't
think
it's.
It
would
have
a
significant
impact
on
the
way
we've
done
things
in
the
past.
D
A
Over
the
years
on
council-
and
you
know,
it
obviously
would
be
nice
to
be
able
to
call
in-
I
try
really
hard
not
to
do
my
traveling
on
mondays,
but
occasionally
I
ended
up
having
to
miss
something
yeah
I
mean.
Let
me
ask
it
a
different
way.
If
we
were
able
to
say
that
the
added
cost
burden
is
minimal,
then
would
we
want
to
do
it?
Yeah.
E
A
D
C
C
L
B
B
E
C
Just
had
a
question:
we
think
that
the
current
drafts
might
come
from
the
state
law
requirement.
Is
that
if
we
were
to
continue
to
do
hybrid
meetings
that
we
would
have
to
have
the
meetings
that
are
hybrid
available
on
our
website
or
on
on
a
public
website
for
five
years
and
right
now?
I
think
it's
two
years.
M
To
come
up
with
a
year
we
had
held
it,
I
mean
when,
when
nick
and
I
went
through
this
be
pre-pandemic,
I
believe
nick
can
correct
me.
We
technically
only
had
to
hold
the
video
for
six
to
seven
months,
because
we
always
had
the
minutes
and
then,
after
the
fact,
back
in
the
day,
I
would
drop
off
dvds.
So
ola's
got
a
closet
full
of
dvds
that
go
back
to.
God
knows
when.
So.
If
there
was
a
request,
she
could
make
a
copy.
M
M
C
M
M
Right
now,
on
the
old
section
before
we
changed
to
youtube
a
few
months
ago,
we
saw
we
still
have
three
years
there
on
the
vimeo
link
for
the
city
page.
So
right
now
we
have
three
and
a
half
years
that
somebody
could
access,
if
need
be,
and
if
they
needed
something
before
that.
We
have
that
in
storage
over
here-
and
I
have
it
in
storage
on
the
hard
drive
at
my
house.
M
M
Yeah,
that's
a
gray
area
with
me
and
the
other
municipalities
as
well,
because,
like
paloma
had
said
you,
you
can
click
a
couple
things
and
you
can
get
a
transcript
on
youtube,
but
is
that
okay,
if
there's
misspellings,
if
is
it,
does
it
fit
the
bill
that
nick
was
talking
about?
I
I
don't
know
the
answer
to
that.
M
M
So
what
we
did
is
we
tried
to
do
what
what
paloma
said
tried
to
turn
it
into
a
word
document
and
one
two
hour
planning
board
meeting
was
something
like
a
105
pages
of
how
it
worked
out.
Text-Wise
I
mean
you
could
probably
shrink
that
yourself,
but
that's
just
doing
a
straight
old
copy
and
paste
off
of
youtube
onto
a
word
document,
but
I
don't.
I
don't
know
what
the
accuracy
if
that
would
legally
work.
M
E
And
invariably
there
will
be
some
difficulties
in
translation.
Some
people
speak
softly,
some
people
right
the
words,
get
mumbled
and
doesn't
get
heard
clearly,
so
there
will
be
quality
issues
that
we
can't
go
without
expecting
that,
and
then
it
becomes
a
matter
of
how
important
those
quality
issues
and
how
far
is
that
issue
going
to
be
advanced
by
by
someone
yeah.
M
Yes,
so
you'd
have
to
like
I
said
it
was
challenging
when
I
was
trying
to
do
it
for
hyde
park
just
for
the
planning
until
they
came
back
to
live,
and
it
would
still
mean
me
sending
them
the
video
in
a
specific
format,
this
one
company
they
were
using
now
in
california,
and
they
would
transcribe
it
page
by
page.
But
again
the
planning
board
secretary
had
to
go
over
top
of
that
for
just
what
you
said.
Who
was
that
person?
M
E
M
And
and
during
the
pandemic
it
was
worse
because
everybody
had
a
mask
on
so
you
didn't
know
who
was
talking
so
that
that
threw
another
wrench
into
it.
So
I
again
I
with
all
the
other
municipalities
that
I
work
in.
I
I
don't
get
a
clear
answer
so
like
like
nick,
is
saying
they're
saying
this,
but
will
this
work?
Will
this
not
work?
M
M
J
E
A
A
G
A
G
If
anybody
wants
to
know
what
happened
in
that
meeting,
they're
most
likely
to
go
and
find
the
video,
I
think,
it'll
be
a
very
obscure
circumstance
where
somebody
is
aware
of
this
law
and
is
like
requesting
transcripts
to
you
know
to
you
know,
be
disruptive
in
some
way
or
causing
expense
in
some
way.
I
just
don't
think
it's
very
likely
that
this
law
or
this
provision
would
be
used
by
anybody.
E
A
C
I
think
chris,
is
it
possible
to
look
into
the
cost
of
transcription
services
just
to
get
a
ballpark
of
how
much
this
could
cost?
Yes
great.
I
think
that
is
a
next
step
then,
and
then
I
think,
nick
it's
possible.
We
could.
I
know
that
someone
might,
in
the
future,
request
a
transcript,
so
this
wouldn't
necessarily
answer
the
question
of
how
much
it
ends
up
costing
us,
but
we
could
pass
this
law,
try
it
for
a
period
of
time
and
then
for
whatever
reason,
rescind
it
as
a
council.
If
we
wanted
to.
E
B
B
C
E
B
E
A
A
E
Right
so
I
apologize
for
not
raising
this
before
and
I
was
looking
for
some
clarity
in
the
documents
I
have.
I
don't
see
it
so
I
think
I
need
to
just
speak
to
mark.
The
concern
I
want
to
do
is
make
sure
that,
before
you
take
any
action
on
this,
that
we
have
ensured
that
this
is
within
your
authority
in
the
sense
of
it's
not
a
gift
of
public
funds,
that
it's
serving
a
municipal
purpose
right.
E
You
can't
go
out
and
use
public
funds
and
give
someone
a
truck
if
you're
hosting
a
community
event,
you're
co-sponsoring
it
or
you're
providing
equipment
that
is
used
and
there's
a
public
purpose
and
benefit
to
it.
I
think
there
are
ways
to
get
that
approved.
I
just
need
to
get
some
more
details
to
ensure
that
it
meets
the
law.
E
There's
a
constitutional
provision
that
says
public
funds
can
only
be
used
for
a
public
purpose
and
it
can't
be
given
to
private
organizations.
Clearly
that
happens,
there
are
grains.
There
are
programs
where
it's
done.
There's
a
very
fine
line.
Controller
has
defined
opinions
that
they've
issued.
That
says,
when
permissible,
when
it's
not
permissible,
I
just
need
to
dig
into
this
a
bit
more
and
make
sure
I
have
an
understanding.
E
So
I
can
give
you
that
guidance
and
give
you
our
legal
opinion
that
the
uses
ever
fall
within
your
authority
are
without
and
why
they're,
without
or
how
they
might
be
able
to
be
brought
in.
If
there
were
some
changes
in
either
of
the
city's
oversight
or
involving
with
those
funds
or
in
how
those
funds
are
being
used
or
being
requested,
and
we
can
get
that
done
for
your
next
workshop.
E
A
Of
some
more
information,
okay,
well,
you
know,
I
think
the
good
thing
is
that
we'll
we'll
go
through
it
now,
you'll
give
us
an
opinion
and
may
also
form
sort
of
a
way
for
us
to
understand
how
to
do
this
going
forward
as
well.
Right
in
terms
of
you
know,
what
do
we
have
to
make
sure
is
in
there
if
it's
going
to
work
right,
yeah,
I
I.
D
K
A
A
D
J
D
C
A
K
A
A
B
L
So
a
lot
of
this
is
coming
from
the
chairs
themselves,
rather
than
the
websites.
So
with
that
we'll
just
get
right
into
it
feel
free
to
jump
in
with
questions
or
comments
as
we
go.
The
first
two
are
our
planning
and
zoning
boards,
and
both
of
these
are
actually
fully
at
capacity
right
now
in
terms
of
membership.
L
We
also
staff
these
meetings
with
a
number
of
city
staff
and
consultants.
We
have
amanda
caputo
our
municipal
secretary,
who
sits
in
on
all
of
these
meetings.
We
have
an
attorney
from
kenan
bean
at
each
of
these
meetings.
We
have
our
city
planner
john
clark
at
all
of
these
meetings,
and
we
also
have
our
city
engineer
john
russo
at
all.
This
planning
board
meetings,
and
basically
this
is
a
responsive
board.
A
A
planning
board
yes
yeah
and
then,
if
nzba
yeah,
just
to
back
up
on
planning
board,
so
not
in
the
requirements.
But
my
habit
is
to
look
for
expertise.
It
doesn't
mean
that
everyone
needs
to
have
expertise,
but
the
the
chair
has
also
co-chaired
our
master
plan
in
2017
and
in
2007
as
an
architect.
There
are
several
other
architects
or
landscape
architects
on
there
and
some
normal
people
too.
But
you
know
there's
a.
I
tend
to
want
some
expertise
right:
normal
people,
yeah.
J
I
was
gonna,
I
don't
know
where
I'm
gonna
bring
this
up
at
the
beginning,
we
had
some
interest
in
seeing
resumes
of
all
of
our
committee
members.
I
know
that
since
we've
started,
this
term
resumes
have
been
included
in
all
all
applicants
and
appointments,
but
I
would
be
interested
in
sort
of
going
back
and
getting
a
comprehensive
record
of
everybody
and
a
little
bit
of
information
on
them,
and
I
don't
know
if
it's
necessarily
a
resume.
B
We
talk
about
a
lot
of
little
things
and
these
all
are
starting
to
add
up
like
we.
Don't
we're
really
struggling
just
to
get
main
street
paved
and
keep
up
with
the
projects
we
have
going
out.
I
don't
have
five
extra
bends
in
the
back
to
do
this
stuff.
I
mean
this
was
a
lot
of
work.
So
every
time
you
ask
a
question
like
that:
it's
just
well
we'll
just
do
this
and
we'll
just
do
that
and
I'm
I'm
I'm
sorry,
I
don't.
B
B
L
A
L
B
B
L
L
They
meet
more
on
demand,
rather
than
necessarily
every
month
they
have
a
five-member
structure
and
they
are
also
at
capacity
right
now,
and
these
members
serve
a
three-year
term
as
well.
We
also
staff
these
meetings
with
amanda,
caputo,
akina
being
attorney
and
then
also
our
planner
dave.
Buckley
sits
on
these
meetings.
Our
planner.
B
A
A
L
L
A
A
That
decides
it's
the
board
of
assessment
reviews,
so
here
the
expertise
that
you're
looking
for
is
is
some
understanding
of
real
estate
and
some
understanding
of
how
assessments
work,
and
you
know-
and
it's
it's
not
the
most
popular
group,
but
it's
a
pretty
important
one.
Since
we
went
to
full
value
assessing
20
years
ago,
we
get
very
very
few
grievances
and
communities
that
aren't
at
full
value.
You
get
a
ton
more,
but
once
you
kind
of
get
there
and
stay
close,
then
the
numbers
are
pretty
low.
So.
D
L
I'll
keep
moving
we're
on
to
our
conservation
advisory
committee.
This
is
a
up
to
nine
members
on
this
committee.
We
have
seven
right
now,
which
means
we
have
two
vacancies.
I
was
also
told
by
our
chair
that
we
could
expect
one
more
to
be
opening
up
in
june.
There's
a
member
who's
expected
to
step
down.
They
meet
the
first
tuesday
of
every
month
in
person
at
in
the
courtroom.
I
believe
they
have
sometimes
done
hybrid
meetings,
but
not
always,
I
think
it's
more
meeting
to
meeting
they're
currently
doing
a
lot
of
different
things.
L
You've
heard
about
some
of
these
initiatives
from
the
chair
himself.
You've
also
heard
about
some
things
just
through
chris
and
I,
but
these
members
serve
two-year
terms
and
basically,
they
are
charged
with
advising
the
council
on
all
things:
climate,
natural
resources
and
environments
and,
most
recently,
the
compost
compost
working
group,
which
is
a
subset
of
the
cac.
A
L
L
L
This
is
a
five-member
committee
under
this,
the
code
staffed
by
two
appointees,
but
then
actually,
unlike
some
of
the
other
committees
before
it,
has
a
mandated
member
of
the
police
department,
a
mandated
superintendent
of
streets
position
and
a
mandated
representative
of
the
planning
board
on
the
committee.
This
is
also
a
responsive
committee.
A
Yeah,
so
this
is
the
one
I
would
ask
nick.
I
don't
think
this
one
is
mandated
by
state
law.
What
state
law
does
is
establish
how
you
can
do
things
like
put
up,
stop
signs
or
speed
limits,
and
they
have
to
follow
that,
so
they
have
to
understand
it.
But
I
think
we
created
this
committee
as
a
way
of
freeing
our
time
up
on
council.
A
E
L
And
the
last
thing
I
wanted
to
mention
for
this
is:
it
is
also
staffed
by
city
staff.
Myself
being
one
of
the
members,
I
don't
vote
on
anything,
but
I
do
take
minutes
put
together.
Agendas
coordinate
all
of
that,
but,
as
I
mentioned
before,
we
have
a
couple
members
of
the
city
staff
that
are
actually
members
of
the
committee
as
well.
K
I
I
do
have
a
quick
question
about
this,
or
just
I
guess,
traffic
and
safety
in
general.
If
a
constituent
reaches
out
to
one
of
us
as
a
city
council
person
about
something
that
has
to
do
with
traffic
and
safety,
would
we
then
pass
that
on
to
the
committee?
Would
we
pass
that
on
to
chris?
Would
we
pass
that
on
to
you
ben
that's,.
L
A
good
question,
and
actually
a
couple
of
your
colleagues
on
the
council
have
already
been
doing
this.
The
proper
procedure
would
be
to
send
it
to
me.
I
put
together
the
agendas
as
long
as
it's
within
before
a
week
before
the
meeting.
I
will
include
it
in
the
agenda
and
they
will
discuss,
and
I
will
include
minutes
on
that.
Usually
the
week
following
every
meeting,
fantastic.
A
G
So,
for
example,
let's
say
I
I
go
to
the
committee
and
I
said
hey,
we
need
a
stop
sign
on
the
corner
of
this
intersection
when,
when
the
committee
receives
that
in
the
in
the
law
that
they're,
following
or
in
their
own
law,
bylaws
like
what
are,
what
are
they
doing
with
the
request?
Are
they
considering
whether
or
not
it
needs
a
stop
sign,
which
is
the
specific
request,
or
are
they
saying
what
is
going
on
on
this
intersection?
Here's
some
alternatives
to
stop
signs,
because
I'm
never
really
clear
like.
G
L
Kind
of
both
dan,
so
you
know
a
number
of
these
members
are
very,
like
you
know,
experienced
members
not
only
of
the
traffic
and
safety
but
also
have
a
you
know,
lived
in
beacon
for
a
long
time.
So
what
they'll
do
often
is
they'll?
Consider
the
request
specifically.
So
in
your
example,
a
stop
sign,
they
might
say,
okay.
What
would
a
stop
sign
like
this
look
like
at
this
intersection
and
might
be?
This
is
just
hypothetical,
they
might
say.
L
Well,
there's
an
there's,
a
traffic
light
two
blocks
down,
and
maybe
in
this
case
we
don't
want
to
put
a
stop
sign
there,
but
maybe
we
want
to
put
like
a
more
more
obvious
crossing
markings
things
like
that
something
else
to
help
with
the
safety
issue.
So
it's
going
to
be
both
they'll
consider
the
specific
request,
but
they
might
also
discuss
alternatives.
So
I
don't
remember
the
discussion
around
your
suggestions,
specifically
offhand,
but
hypothetically
they
would
probably
go
through
both.
G
L
My
experience
is,
they
can
make
whatever
recommendations
they
would
see
fit.
I
do
believe
at
least
a
couple
of
of
the
members
have
read
books.
I
don't
know
if
it's
the
same
book
as
you,
but
they've
mentioned.
Having
read,
you
know
these
these,
like
pedestrian
safety,
sorts
of
oriented
books,
so
I
do
think
that
they
do
feel
empowered
to
do
that,
whether
or
not
they
decide
ultimately
that
that's
what
they
want
to
do.
L
H
C
If
they
have
a
role
to
play,
what
role
we
want
them
to
play,
what
role
they
think
they
could
bring
into
it
because,
as
ben
said,
they
have
a
lot
of
expertise
in
this
field.
So
I
would
say
right
now,
there's
less
of
that.
Going
on
of
the
committee,
there
is
there's
a
study
of
replant
that
they're
looking
into
that,
I
guess
got
put
on
pause
because
of
the
pandemics.
There
might
be
some
specific
things
I
think
that's
actually
being
done,
not
by
them.
Maybe
the
county
or
the.
D
C
L
A
I
think
there's
a
dividing
line
and
you're
kind
of
hearing
examples
like
I
was
just
trying
to
think
I
used
to
want
us
to
take
down
a
traffic
light
if
we
were
going
to
add
a
traffic
light.
No
one
ever
listened
to
me,
but
that's
okay,
but
we
could,
for
instance,
ask
them
to
do
a
couple
of
things
like
look
at
our
traffic
lights,
for
instance.
I
think
that
would
might
that
would
probably
be
within
scope,
but
you
know
a
bike
system
would
probably
be
in
the
planner
scope
right.
Something
like
that.
B
L
Right
and
I
think
another
example
sidewalks
come
up
with
time
to
time,
but
you
know
it's
complicated
because
a
lot
of
areas
of
the
city
don't
have
sidewalks
and
it
involves
a
lot
more
involved
processes,
so
that
would
probably
be
something
that
they
would
say.
This
is
a
city
policy
decision.
This
isn't
something
that
we
would
make
a
recommendation
on.
K
L
L
And
you
can
also
connect
with
me
offline
dan.
If
you
want
to
talk
about
it
more
moving
on
to
the
commission
on
human
rights,
this
is
a
5
to
15
member
commission
right
now
we
have
five
according
to
the
year-end
report
as
of
last
year.
This
is
one
of
the
committees
that
I
hadn't
made
the
connection
with
as
of
yet
so
this
might
be
slightly
out
of
date.
I
try
to
get
as
current
as
possible
the
website's
out
of
date,
so
I'm
hopefully
going
to
get
this
updated
with
at
least
the
information
I
have
here.
L
L
And
the
next
one
is
the
tree
advisory
committee.
You've
heard
a
little
bit
from
them
recently
they
had
were
charged
with
helping
with
the
arbor
day
celebration
a
couple
weeks
back
currently
at
four
members.
We
just
recently
appointed
kate
stryker.
We
have
one
vacancy
on
this
board
and
they
are
currently
meeting
on
the
second
wednesday
of
each
month
downstairs
in
the
classroom,
and
they
are
currently
working
on
a
nursery
pilot
program
with
mark
price
and
they
are
starting
to
meet
more
regularly
for
a
while.
They
were
not
meeting
super
regularly.
L
H
D
L
Next
is
our
board
of
ethics.
I
also
had
a
little
issue
getting
in
touch
with
board
of
ethics,
so
this
is
all
with
an
asterisk
as
well
could
be
a
little
bit
out
of
date.
My
information
is
that
we
have
four
membership.
Four
members.
Currently
this
is
a
five-member
committee
and
they
serve
five-year
terms.
They
meet
quarterly,
but
I
believe
they're
only
mandated
to
meet
once
a
year.
A
L
L
It's
a
pretty
self-explanatory
name
for
the
committee.
They
are
charged
with.
You
know,
looking
at
the
greenway
trail,
making
recommendations-
and
you
know
being
involved
with
that
right
now.
They
have
eight
members,
it's
an
ad
hoc
committee.
So
it's
not
in
the
code
there's
no
cap
on
membership,
but
right
now
they
do
not
like
missing
any
per
se.
L
A
So
in
this
group
you
know
they're
working
obviously
on
our
greenway
trail.
I
think
the
focus
is
three
pieces,
so
there's
a
section
of
the
trail
from
main
street
up
to
bridge
street
that
they're
looking
at,
if
the,
if
we
ever,
if
at
the
time
comes
that
we
get
the
rail
line
for
a
trail
purpose.
They'll.
Look
at
that
they've
been
looking
at
a
section
north
of
the
train
station
to
head
out.
A
Remember,
there's
the
clara
sour
trail
that
goes
from
the
train
station
south
to
denning's
point
and
connects
to
madame
brett,
so
they're,
looking
at
the
section
north
and
that's
getting
pieces
of
it
are
getting
ready
and
then
I've
also
asked
them
to
look
at
a
loop
on
the
southeast
side
of
the
creek,
from
where
the
tyrande
bridge
is
up
to
90.,
and
that
would
be
new.
It
requires.
You
know,
property
owners
to
be
interested,
obviously
we're
hoping
that
the
craighouse
property,
which
is
more
than
half
that
route,
would
be
interested.
So
that's
what
we're.
D
L
Okay,
all
right
next
committee
is
the
main
street
access
committee.
You've
heard
from
john
clark
about
a
recent
report
that
they
put
together.
They
have
11
members,
currently
it's
another
ad
hoc
committee,
meaning
they
don't
have
a
capped
or
minimum
membership
that
I'm
aware
of.
So.
Therefore,
I'm
saying
no
vacancies
but
of
course
it's
similar
to
the
last,
where
that's
with
an
asterisk.
Technically
there
could
probably
be
more
members.
L
John
clark
does
assist
with
a
lot
of
their
work,
our
city
planner,
and
they
are
meeting
every
month
via
zoom
and
their
goal
is
basically
to
develop
a
holistic
and
sustainable
action
plan
for
main
street
parking
traffic,
public
transit,
pedestrian
and
non-vehicular
use
for
residents
and
visitors,
and
I
put
an
example
of
their
current
work,
but
we
don't
need
to
dive
into
that
too
much.
They
do
have
a
preset
agenda,
though
similar
to
what
we.
L
I
believe
all
the
committee
meetings
are
open
to
the
public.
So
yes,
to
the
extent
that
some
of
these
committees
meetings
are
not
on
the
website
calendar,
it's
more
a
reflection
on
needing
to
be
updated.
So
I'm
more
than
happy
to
put
all
of
their
meetings
onto
the
website
so
that
anyone
has
access
to
the
zoom
links
or
knows
when
and
where
they're
meeting.
L
This
has
been
a
good
process
actually
and
like
kind
of
building
connections
with
a
lot
of
these
committees,
and
I'm
and
I'm
optimistic
that
that's
going
to
happen
with
the
ones
I
haven't
heard
from
yet
you
know
I
understand
people
are
busy.
So
when
that
happens,
they
will
also
be
reflected
on
the
website.
L
L
L
All
right,
so
we
also
have
a
third
ad
hoc
committee,
the
police
advisory
committee.
We
have
10
members
on
this
right
now
and
again,
not
to
belabor
it,
but
there's
not
a
set
membership
on
this.
We
do
have
a
pre.
I
believe
the
goal
when
making
this
committee
was
to
have
a
pretty
representative
basis
of
community
organizations,
the
co-chairs,
one
of
which
is
a
pastor
at
a
faith
temple
church
and
the
other
is
a
political
science
and
criminal
justice
professor
at
cuny.
D
A
I
just
think
we
need
to
meet
with
them
and
make
sure
they're,
okay
and
kind
of
on
track
and
my
emails,
I
think,
they're
on
track
to
do
some
things,
but
I
think
they
also
might
need
to
be
nudged
a
little.
I
had
terry
nelson
put
on
there
at
the
start
of
the
year
and
I
just
do
want
to
check
in
right,
because
I
I'm
kind
of
hoping
we
get
some
sort
of
readout.
A
I
think
people
are
discovering
that,
because
we're
accredited
and
we're
one
of
the
few
police
departments
that
are
state
accredited,
that
kind
of
a
lot
of
the
boxes
get
checked
quickly,
but
that
doesn't
mean
they
should
be
telling
us
that,
as
opposed
to
kind
of
discovering
it
for
themselves
so
but
yeah.
I
think
we
should
check
up
and
see
where
they're
at
okay.
L
Yeah
I
mean
I
know
that
that
was
on
our
radar.
As
for
the
committees
more
generally,
I
think
it's
more
committed
to
committee
how
they're
doing
minutes
how
they're
doing
reporting,
but
I
think
this
is
again
a
good
opportunity
of
evolving,
more
regular
contact
with
the
chairs
and
so
to
the
extent
that
they
have
minutes
and
reports,
I'm
happy
to
make
sure
that
those
get
on
the
website
as
well.
L
I
know
the
tree
committee,
I
wasn't
in
contact
with
them
for
a
long
time,
but
now,
under
with
pete
bailey,
I
have
to
give
credit
to
him
as
secretary
he's
been
very
responsive
and
including
getting
minutes
on
the
website.
So
you
know
it's
an
evolving
process,
but
it
is
that's.
Definitely
the
goal
to
the
extent
that
these
things
are
being
made,
that
the
people
in
the
community
do
have
access
to
them.
L
Okay
and
then
for
our
last
I
will
say:
quote-unquote
active
committee
is
the
recreation
committee.
As
many
of
you
know,
we've
had
discussions
before
this
is
a
committee.
That's
technically
active,
but
not
really
at
the
moment,
it's
in
the
process
of
being
reconceptualized,
largely
under
the
guidance
of
mark
price,
our
recreation
director
who's,
hoping
to
turn
this
from
a
committee
that
for
a
while
was
had
meetings,
but
people
wouldn't
show
up,
didn't
really
have
much
to
do
he's
looking
to
maybe
broaden
it
to
include
art
and
culture,
and
that
will
be
remained
to
be
seen.
L
But
I
think
what
he's
thinking
right
now
is
that,
by
the
end
of
this
wreck,
study
that's
being
done
by
a
consulting
group
this
year,
he's
hoping
by
the
end
of
the
year
we're
going
to
have
a
good
idea
of
what
needs
there
are
that
this
committee
could
fill,
and
so
this
will
be
another
thing
that
we'll
probably
bring
back
to
you
specifically
to
talk
about
what
this
new
committee
is
going
to
look
like
and
mark
price
will
probably
be
the
one
talking
to
you
about
that.
Rather
than
me,.
C
B
D
B
The
information
out
to
people
and
get
diverse
voices
in
in
reaction
to
that,
so
we're
he's
he's
trying
to
think
of
people
that
you
know
reach
into
all
age
groups.
All
demographics,
not
not
just
people
that
we
know
are
always
tuned
in
and
some
of
those
may
be
parlayed
into
longer
term
members.
Exactly.
L
L
K
L
That
I'm
not
sure
on,
I
don't
believe
I
know
traffic
and
safety
does
not
that's
not.
I
don't
believe
I
think
most
others
go
through
minutes
rather
than
because
we
don't
really
have
an
easy
mechanism
down
in
the
classroom
space
where
a
lot
of
these
committees
meet
in
person
that
I'm
aware
of
for
recording
and
we
don't
staff
some
of
the
committees
that
meet
down
there
in
person.
So
it
would
be
up
to
them
to
find
a
way
to
record
it.
K
L
C
I'm
curious,
if
you,
if
all
the
committees
feel
they
have
what
they
need.
If
there's
anything,
I
appreciate
that
they
that
more
of
your
capacity
might
not
be
available,
but
if
there
is
a
committee
need-
and
we
see
a
value
in
them,
if
that's
something
that
there
might
be
some
future
discussions,
we
have
to
have
about
how
we
support
the
committees.
That's
both
city
staff
time.
C
C
L
E
Well,
I
think
the
concern
expressed
there
is
that
if
you're
attending
as
council
members
and
you
haven't
formally
established,
liaisons-
are
committee
members
going
to
view
your
attendance
there
and
as
being
a
member
of
the
council
where
robert's
an
ordinary
person
and
what
imprint
yours
placed
upon
your
attendance
there.
So
I
think
it's
more
of
a
transparency
and
perception
concern.
G
May
I
weigh
in
for
a
second
in
in
the
last
council,
we
had
two
council
members
that
were
I
don't
know
what
their
what
term
was
used,
but
two
council
members
that
were
kind
of
helping
the
cac
with
direction
early
on
in
in
our
term,
and
I
guess
that
that
was
the
cac
and
the
two
council
members
were
amber
and
air.
So
I
guess
like
in
in
what
capacity
were
they
aiding
the
cac
and
could
that
be
a
model
for
what
we
do
going
forward?.
E
Well,
I
think
the
concern
you
have
to
break
it
down
between
your
statutory
boards
and
your
advisory
boards,
like
the
planning
board
and
the
zoning
board.
The
zoning
board
in
particular
meant
to
be
independent
from
the
council
right,
because
the
zoning
board
is
reviewing
legislation
that
and
laws
that
you
have
enacted.
E
So
it
really
depends
upon
what
the
council
wishes
to
do
in
terms
of
the
support
and
the,
and
if
you
want
to
have
liaisons
to
your
advisory
committee
and
the
scope
and
role
of
those
individuals,
you
have
that
report
in
your
discretion.
I
would
say
it's
something
different
for
advisory
committees
versus
statutory
committee
right.
You
wouldn't
have
a
council
member,
acting
as
a
liaison
on
the
board
of
ethics.
G
Idea
I
had
in
my
I
head.
Well
I
mean
I'm
raising
that
because
you
know
I
you
know.
I
agree.
I
agree
with
what
was
saying,
and
others
have
said
that
I
want
the.
I
want
the
committees
to
feel
as
supported
as
possible
and,
and
I
I've
heard
from
multiple
committees
that
they're
not
familiar
with
their
charge,
that
they're
not
sure
what
they're
allowed
to
do
and
not
allowed
to
do
that.
G
People
won't
respond
to
their
emails,
and
so,
if
we
had
a
council
member
who
was
there
just
to
like
help
them
get
the
answers
to
their
questions,
just
in
like
a
supportive
role,
not
even
making
recommendations
to
them,
but
just
helping
them
out
get
their
questions
answered,
I
think,
would
have
enormous
value
and
would
probably
contribute
to
increased
output
from
our
committees,
which
I
think
we
all
agree.
We
would
like.
J
So
my
my
like,
maybe
perhaps
my
draft
proposal,
is
that
for
the
committees
that
aren't
already
staffed
by
city
employees,
perhaps
they
can
be
given
a
a
council
liaison
with
the
sort
of
clarity
or
at
least
attempted
clarity,
that
we
are
there
to
help
provide
information
or
pass
information
around,
but
not
to.
I
guess,
advise
or
I'm
not
sure
exactly
what
the
language
is.
That
would
be
appropriate.
J
A
H
A
A
A
Yep
yeah,
but
but
the
others
like
some
of
you've
attended
traffic
safety.
I
I
think
it's
great
and
I
also
think
that's
one
of
the
ones
that
would
will
be
specific
to
an
event
that
you've
got
constituents
asking
questions
about.
So
you
know,
there's
a
ward
three
street,
so
all
of
a
sudden
ren's
there.
But
you
know
six
months
from
now.
A
You
know
she's
frying
other
fish
right,
so
I
think
that
one
cac
hrc
tree
should
be
fine
main
street.
If
you
want
you
know,
you
can
certainly
attend
that
gas
right
yeah.
I
think
the
exceptions
would
be
planning.
You
should
be
there
as
a
citizen,
especially
if
you
speak
right,
zoning
very
much
so
right,
the
others
yeah
ethics,
I'm
not
sure
there
are
any
other
limitations.
Are
there
we've
had
we've
had
council
members
do
greenway
stuff,
but
it's
it's
your
choice.
Right.
H
That's
great
some
of
this
just
came
about
because
my
miz
manners
hit
me
and
I
realized
sometime
in
april.
I
had
not
introduced
myself
to
so
many
of
these
chairs
and
I
was
kind
of
seeing
them
around
and
they
were
calling
me
up.
They
were
texting
me
and
saying
you
know
remind
people
about
the
earth
day
cleanup
during
the
meeting,
and
I
thought
maybe
I
should
proactively
reach
out
to
these
folks
and
check
and
see
if
they
have
announcements
on
a
council
by
council
meeting
basis.
H
But
now
that
I
see
this
full
report,
I
have
a
clearer
picture
that
there
are
some
that
it's
it'll
be
great
to
introduce
myself
and
check
in
with
and
just
leave
that
door
open.
But
a
lot
of
them
are
well
handled
by
city
staff
and
have
a
structure
that
that
doesn't
really
they're.
You
know
the
planning
board.
L
Was
good
for
me
as
well
because
similar
to
ren,
I
was
thinking
you
know
I,
my
job
is
kind
of
helped
coordinate
a
lot
of
these
things
and
I
hadn't
you
know
spoken
to
some
of
these
committees,
so
this
was
good
and
I
will
try
and
keep
it
running
up
to
date.
So,
as
you
have,
questions
feel
free
to
reach
out
to
me
directly.