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From YouTube: Beacon Workshop 5-15-23
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The City of Beacon Council Workshop from May 15, 2023
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So
our
first
item
is
something
with
the
beacon
historical
society
and
today
happens
to
be
the
110th
anniversary
of
the
city
of
Beacon.
So
I
have
a
proclamation
here
and
we
have
Denise
Van
Buren
here
with
us.
So
Denise
is
the
president
of
the
beacon,
Historical
Society
she's
also
spent
dozens
of
years
with
the
DAR,
your
former
National
past
president.
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A
C
It
is
better
not
to
see
them
being
made
and
I
know
you
deal
with
that
kind
of
reality
every
day
here.
So
I
hope
that
all
of
you
are
already
familiar
with
the
fact
that
we
were
two
distinct
Villages
Matawan,
a
thriving
manufacturing
center
sure
that
we're
centered
focused
on
the
Fishkill
Creek,
which
provided
all
the
power
for
those
Mills
and
Fishkill
Landing.
C
Here
on
this
end
of
town,
a
vibrant
Hudson,
River
Port,
one
of
the
most
active
in
the
Hudson
River,
the
latter
Village
Fish
Landing-
was
incorporated
as
a
village
in
1866
and
two
decades
later
in
1886,
the
village
of
Matawan
was
formally
Incorporated,
but
the
First
Street
meetings
were
held
as
early
as
1864
right
when
those
Villages
were
being
Incorporated,
with
the
idea
of
forming
one,
much
larger
Village
to
consolidate
services,
to
be
more
efficient
to
provide
a
larger
identity
for
the
people
who
lived.
Here,
though,
those
start
right
after
the
Civil
War.
C
It
isn't
until
1910
that
the
city
fathers
at
the
time
appoint
a
formal
commission
and
they
get
to
work.
In
addition
to
selecting
the
novel
and
ultimately,
as
we
know
now,
inefficient,
commissioner
form
of
government,
we
were
the
first
commissioner
form
of
government
in
the
state
of
New
York.
The
charter
Committee
of
60
residents
had
to
wrestle
with
a
name
for
the
new
city,
and
that
is
where
the
real
trouble
begins.
First,
they
chose
anyone
want
to
guess.
C
Was
one
that
comes
up
later
on,
but
they
chose
malzinga,
which
was
a
Native
American
word
associated
with
our
place
here
you
know
we
have
Poughkeepsie
and
you
know
saki
other
places
along
the
river
chose,
Native
American
words
believed
at
the
time,
but
maybe
apocryphal
to
mean
running
water.
The
second
choice
of
this
Charter
Commission
in
1910
was
Mount.
Beacon
tyronda
was
next
and
Duchess.
City
also
collected
a
few
votes,
but
one
word
of
the
chosen
name:
melzinga
leaked
out.
The
response.
C
Statewide
was
not
positive,
hard
to
spell
hard
to
pronounce
and
hard
to
even
look
at
was
the
General
consensus.
The
charter
committee
was
willing
to
compromise.
They
said:
they'll
drop
the
H
on
the
end
of
malzinga,
so
any
fool
could
easily
spell
and
pronounce
malzinga
they
sent
that
new
Charter
and
the
new
city
name
to
the
state
legislature
for
approval.
So
when
the
first
approvals
go
up,
it's
for
the
city
of
melzinga.
C
Well,
when
that
choice
with
or
without
the
H
became
public
knowledge,
the
Press
had
a
field
day.
According
to
the
Wappingers
Chronicle
quote,
melzinga
may
sound
well
to
the
Fishkill
marijuanaite,
but
to
the
outside
world.
It
has
the
flavor
of
the
Arabian
nights
mixed
with
a
nightmare
dream.
After
a
feast
of
Welsh
rare
bit,
mince
pie,
cream
cake
and
hard
cider
from
the
Albany
Times
Union
in
the
state.
Capitol
malzinga
does
not
strike
us
as
a
good
name
for
the
new
Fishkill
Matawan
merger.
It's
ugly
enough
to
frighten
little
children.
C
There
seems
to
be
as
much
reason
for
naming
the
new
city
melzinga
as
for
baptizing,
a
baby
Beelzebub
and
finally,
from
the
Highland
post.
The
charter
for
a
new
city
of
melzinga
was
presented
to
the
legislature
Wednesday
by
assemblyman
Myron
Smith.
It
was
referred
to
to
the
city's
Committee
in
the
legislature.
Originally
the
name
was
spelled
melzinga.
It
will
be
noted
that
the
H
was
dropped
better
to
drop
the
rest
of
the
word
and
keep
the
h,
not
surprisingly,
in
its
first
official
business,
the
committee
would
vote
again
on
another
name
for
the
new
city.
C
After
all
that
criticism,
but
malzinga
still
had
36,
first
and
second
place
votes,
followed
by
Mount
Beacon,
with
29
Beacon,
City,
Duchess,
City
placed
third
and
fourth
respectively
and
back
to
the
state
legislature
with
the
name
melzinga
the
name.
However,
was
not
the
only
struggle,
it
took
nearly
three
years
of
political
maneuvering
in
Albany
and
two
veto
votes
by
two
different
Governors
to
make
our
city
a
reality
that
didn't
happen
until
May
15th
and
it
was
signed
by
the
governor
of
New
York
on
May,
the
16th.
C
We
had
a
City
Attorney
at
the
time,
James
G
Meyer,
one
of
the
lawyers
instrumental
in
getting
the
charter
even
before
the
state
legislature
trying
to
get
them
to
consider
it,
and
he
told
the
story
of
how
it
took
that
third
time
to
get
it
over
the
Finish
Line
with
the
third
governor
in
1958
so
decades
after
the
city
was
formed
in
1913
1958.
He
was
talking
to
the
beacon
Kiwanis,
and
this
is
what
he
told
them.
C
It
was
my
job
to
get
that
Charter
adopted
in
Albany
I,
got
it
passed
by
the
assembly
and
the
senate
in
good
shape,
but
Charles
Evan
Hughes,
who
was
the
governor
in
1910,
vetoed
it
later
on
John
Alden
Dix
became
governor.
He
had
appointed
me
to
the
prison
commission
and
several
other
boards.
I
thought
I
stood
pretty
well
with
him
and
that
the
charter
would
have
clear
sailing
with
him.
I
remember
coming
down
from
Albany
that
day
the
legislature
passed
it.
C
The
bill
had
gone
directly
to
the
governor
I
thought
our
city
had
a
new
Charter,
but
the
first
thing
I
heard
when
I
got
off
the
train
was
that
Governor
Dix
had
also
vetoed
it.
We
kept
making
changes
to
meet
all
criticisms
and
we
tried
again
and
on
the
third
time
the
bill
was
passed
by
the
legislature
and
it
went
to
William.
Solser
I
can
take
credit
only
for
getting
the
measure
through
the
legislature.
It
was
John
T
Cronin,
our
then
Commissioner
of
safety
who
had
come
to
Beacon
in
the
meantime
turns
out.
C
He
was
a
friend
of
Governor
zulzer,
though
Mr
through
Mr
Cronin,
the
governor
signed,
the
Charter
bill
and
Beacon
did
become
that
first
commissioned
form
of
government
in
the
state
of
New
York.
The
first
city-wide
election
was
held
June,
the
17th
1913.,
remember
we're
just
signed
into
law,
May
15th,
so
it's
very
short,
featuring
two
different
parties:
the
citizens
party
versus
the
union
parties
very
brief,
but
very
spirited.
The
new
community's
electorate
really
actually
got
involved
about
2016
people
from
those
two
former
twin
Villages
registered
to
vote.
C
They
had
a
combined
population
at
the
time
of
just
about
twelve
thousand,
so
a
very
high
turnout
to
register
to
vote.
96
percent
of
them
actually
turned
out
for
the
election
and
the
citizens.
Party
candidates
were
elected
with
wide
margins
over
the
union
party
counterparts
with
the
governor's
signature
and
the
leaders
elected
Beacon's,
newly
elected
city
council
would
meet
for
the
very
first
time
on
July
the
first
and
promptly
at
nine
o'clock.
That
morning
our
city
was
formally
legally
and
officially
born.
C
At
that
hour,
the
honorable
James,
a
frost
newly
elected
as
the
mayor,
opened
the
first
session
of
the
Council
of
Commissioners
in
the
large
assembly
room
on
top
of
the
maze,
Hook
and
Ladder
building
July
the
1st
the
first
meeting
right,
believe
it
or
not.
The
first
order
of
business
was
to
act
on
a
petition
presented
by
Reverend,
a
toupe
and
William
E
verplank,
with
200
signatures
calling
for
the
community
to
vote
on
the
city's
new
name,
so
they
were
still
melzinga
at
this
time.
C
Such
a
vote
was
conducted
and
Beacon,
who
was
eventually
decided
upon
in
a
public
referendum.
Saloon
city
was
one
of
the
write-in
votes
that
some
little
jokesters
who
like
to
frequent
nice
establishments,
had
included
so
City
Hall
will
be
set
up
a
few
doors
away
from
today's
Helen
cultural
center
and
a
half
century
later
the
Victorian
home
of
a
dentist,
a
man
named
Carl
Gurney,
was
purchased
at
425
Main
Street.
They
bought
it
then
for
twenty
five
thousand
dollars
in
1963.
it
was
kind
of
right
in
front
of
the
manor
at
Homestead.
C
If
you
can
picture
that,
the
city
then
spent
about
a
quarter
of
a
million
dollars
and
Beacon
City
Hall,
which
of
course
is
now
in
private
ownership,
was
erected
on
that
site
that
City
Hall
at
427,
Main
Street
was
formally
dedicated,
June
the
13th
1964
by
the
current
mayor
at
the
time
Stanley
O'dell,
and
there
were
past
Mayors
in
attendance
and
a
large,
a
large
crowd
turned
out
for
that.
This
current
city
hall
was
dedicated
in
1996
during
the
administration
of
Claire
Luke
Gould,
and
it
was
designed
by
a
beaconite
Kathleen
mcelduff
Lions.
A
C
Dog
park
exactly
there
was
a
public
referendum
again,
just
like
there
had
been
for
the
name
just
like
there
had
been
to
form
the
city
in
the
first
place
and
that's
how
this
building
ends
up
here.
So
now,
what
would
a
birthday
party
be
without
a
gift?
So
it's
a
joy
for
me
to
present
to
our
our
wonderful
mayor,
a
copy
of
this
book,
which
contains
a
lot
of
the
information
I
just
share
with
you
and
more
than
a
thousand
photographs
and
stories.
C
C
C
Think-
and
these
are
actually
homemade
by
a
woman
who
was
from
Glen
I'm
just
outside
of
Beacon.
So
thanks
for
the
opportunity
to
tell
you
a
little
bit
about
the
creation
story
of
the
city,
but
also
I
hope
that
I've
awakened
in
you
and
interest
in
the
city
of
Beacon
and
its
history.
It's
a
fascinating
place.
The
site
of
one
of
the
longest
running
ferries
in
American,
history,
The,
Eighth,
Wonder
of
the
world
generations.
C
I
just
assume
everyone
knows
that
the
mount
Beacon
incline
railway
right
and
we
just
hope
to
share
the
great
story
of
this
history
with
all
the
wonderful
new
people
who
have
come
and
are
making
it
an
even
better,
even
more
diverse
place,
and
what
makes
it
special
is
everything
that
went
before
us
and
that's
why
we're
so
committed
to
the
Historical
Society,
its
Mission,
we're
located
at
the
former
St
joachim's
rectory
at
61.
Leonard
Street
membership
is
about
25
a
year
and
you
get.
This
is
my
commercial
message.
C
You
get
a
newsletter
and
invitation
storm
meetings
and
special
events
and
we're
just
happy
to
share
Beacon's
history
and
I
will
close
by
saying.
If
there's
ever
anything,
you
would
like
to
research
in
your
Wars
or
in
the
city.
Sometimes
constituents
may
come
to
you
with
questions
about
their
homes
or
businesses
that
were
here
and
we're
more
than
happy
to
do
our
best
to
research
them.
C
Yes,
exactly.
Thank
you,
sir,
took
about
a
commercial
message
that
that
was
a
good
segue.
We
are
opening
this
weekend
on
Saturday
we're
open
from
one
to
three.
We
have
a
new
exhibit
called
the
Great
Estates
of
Beacon
12
of
the
greatest
states
are
prominently
featured
sites
like
rosenate
and
wodeneth
that
are
gone,
but
also
some
that
are
still
here.
The
manabird
homestead,
the
Christie
house
eustacia.
C
Some
of
these
amazing
Estates
that
were
built
here
by
people
who
recognize
the
really
unique
physical
beauty
of
this
space,
even
Robert
Jewett,
who
is
aboard
Henry,
Hudson's,
half
moon
when
the
the
boat
stops
here
says.
This
would
be
a
good
place
to
build
a
town
upon
we're
at
the
foot
of
Mount
Beacon
at
the
Gateway
to
the
the
beautiful
Hudson
Highlands
on
the
Hudson
River.
C
A
C
C
Absolutely
and
then,
ultimately
you
know,
the
dog
part
is
such
a
such
a
great
resource,
but
that's
how
this
building
ended
up
here
and
it
was
built
here
because
well
we
were
committed
to
the
concept
of
a
T
intersection.
Now
I
don't
want
to
take
up
more
than
my
fair
share
of
time
here,
but
you
know
our
Waterfront,
like
every
other
Hudson
River
Waterfront,
you
used
to
come
up
Main
Street
and
come
all
the
way
up.
C
Main
Street
from
the
Waterfront
cut
right
through
this
porcelain
continue
on
Main
Street,
and
then
you
followed
it
up
around
the
bend
in
today's
East
End
and
you
would
have
continued
what
we
know
as
the
green
fuel
or
green.
You
know
Green
fan
economizer,
maybe
you
known
as
the
italics
property.
It
continued
right
through
there
and
took
you
up
and
out
to
Fishkill.
It
was
one
long
continued,
contiguous,
Main,
Street,
well,
urban
renewal
chopped
up
both
those
ends.
C
It
chopped
off
this
part
of
Main
Street
and
it
through
work
with
Greenfield
economizer
who
wanted
to
stop
the
traffic
through
there.
Traffic
is
now
diverted
on
Blackburn
and
goes
up
and
out
Fishkill,
but
think
about
what
that
natural
flow
was
like
every
other
Waterfront
you're
on
Kingston
and
Poughkeepsie.
C
We
had
the
same
kind
of
Main
Street,
but
this
parcel,
in
particular
after
urban
renewal,
had
sat
for
a
long
time
and
had
not
been
developed,
and
we
decided
what
the
critical
T
intersection
and
the
fact
that
you
could
see
the
River
from
here
that
this
was
the
preferable
site
and
I
was
honored
in
1996
to
November
to
serve
as
the
emcee
for
the
ceremony
when
we
dedicated
it.
So
in
my
mind,
I
think
of
it
as
being
just
sparkly
brand
new.
A
So
I
have
a
proclamation
in
honor
of
the
110th
anniversary
of
the
city
of
Beacon,
whereas
the
city
of
Beacon
was
formed
on
May
15
1913.
through
the
merger
of
the
two
conjoined
Villages
of
Fishkill
Landing
established
in
1866
and
Matawan
established
in
1886,
and
whereas
the
newly
formed
city
became
the
first
commissioned
form
of
government
in
New,
York
state
A
system.
That
was
replaced
with
a
strong
mayor
in
City
Council
in
1992.
Whereas
the
city
was
a
beacon,
was
named
in
honor
of
the
Revolutionary
War
signals
built,
atop,
Mount,
Beacon
and.
C
A
And
I
will
read
it
in
its
entirety.
The
city
of
Beacon
became
known
as
the
Hat
capital
of
New
York
state,
with
hat
Productions
second,
nationally.
Only
to
Danbury,
Connecticut
and
produced
scores
of
products,
including
rubber,
tires
locomotives,
leather,
jackets
boxes,
textiles,
baby
carriages,
insecticides,
blankets
and
industrial
fans,
and
whereas
the
city
of
Beacon
is
featured
in
one
of
the
longest
running.
A
And
whereas
today,
May
15
2023
marks
the
110th
anniversary
of
the
city
of
Beacon.
Now
be
it
resolved
that
all
who
live
in
or
visit
Beacon
join
in
honoring.
This
significant
Milestone,
which
marks
110
years
of
prosperity
and
Community
for
the
city
born
of
two
villages
on
May
15
1913.,
signed
by
myself,
Lee
kiriakumeya
on
today,
the
15th,
the
anniversary
date.
So.
G
A
E
Good
luck
getting
that
open!
Oh,
so
this
position
is
the
employee
who
works
at
our
our
front
desk
and
receives
people
our
account
clerk
typist
resigned
about
four
weeks
ago.
We've
interviewed
several
rounds
of
people
and
Susan
Tucker
has
recommended
Jennifer
McGuire,
who
is
actually
a
beacon
resident
to
take
this
position.
E
There
was
typically
there's
a
civil
service
list
that
we
have
to
draw
from.
There
was
one
or
two
names
on
that
list,
so
we're
allowed
to
quote
unquote
break
the
list,
so
you
don't
have
to
use
that
list
if
it's
under
three
people,
so
she'll
be
appointed
provisionally
and
will
have
to
take
the
account
clerk
typists
civil
service
exam
when
it
comes
up
again
and
we
would
hire
her
immediately.
J
J
B
I
E
B
A
E
This
is
a
rendering
of
what
the
building
is
going
to
look
like
and
I'll
walk
you
through
a
little
bit
about
what
the
changes
are
and
then
give
you
an
update
on
the
bids
that
we
just
received
next
slide.
Ben,
please
so
again
for
people
just
tuning
in
to
this.
Why
are
we
doing
the
project
again
we're
trying
to
consolidate
from
previously
three
fire
stations
to
two
to
one
all
three
of
our
historic
fire
stations.
E
I
mean
this
one
is
the
least
historic,
but
again
they're
they're
not
suited
to
the
apparatus
today
and
to
the
new
demands
of
a
paid
professional
department.
So
in
in
redoing
the
building
we
look
to
do
a
number
of
things.
One
was
to
reorient
the
building,
so
the
the
front
of
it
is
actually
on
Wolcott
Avenue.
When
it
was
built,
it
was
faced
towards
South
Avenue,
so
everybody
driving
through
9d
through
our
community
sees
the
back
of
the
building.
That's
not
particularly
architecturally,
interesting
and.
E
So
we're
going
to
turn
it
around
to
face.
What's
now
the
thoroughfare
of
the
city,
the
existing
facility
is
about
ten
thousand
square
feet,
we're
going
to
do
a
complete
gut
rehab
that
ended
up
being
actually
more
than
we
originally
anticipated.
When
we
started
talking
to
the
council
two
years
ago,
it's
going
to
basically
go
down
to
the
steel
beams
and
the
slap
and
everything
else
is
new
and
then
on
the
North
End
by
The
Visitor
Center.
E
So
this
new
section,
if
you
can
oh
Ben,
can
you
show
the
new
section
with
your
pointer
yet
to
the
left?
That's
the
new
section,
which
is
going
to
be
on
the
north
side
of
the
property.
We're
going
from
the
current
three
base
system,
which
all
empty
out
onto
South
Avenue
to
Five
Bays
were
the
three
primary
Bays
come
out
onto
Wolcott
Avenue,
and
then
we
have
two
backup
Bays
going
on
to
South.
E
Where
we'll
have
our
ambulance
or
possibly
our
fly,
car
or
or
perhaps
a
backup
apparatus
the
building
was
designed
in
and
built
in
the
80s.
It
wasn't
particularly
energy
efficient,
so
the
new
building
will
have
will
be
have
high
insulation
values,
be
airtight,
have
heat
recovery
systems
in
the
air,
Handling
Systems
and
utilize,
a
geothermal
heat
pump
system
and
those
Wells
are
going
to
be
drilled
in
the
gravel
parking
lot,
which
will
then
be
paved
and
made
a
50
plus
car
parking
lot
with
charger
stations
and
newly
planted
trees.
E
So
we
we
started
working
on
the
project.
The
photo
that
you
see
was
during
the
Hazmat
asbestos
abatement.
We
had
about
a
hundred
and
thirty
two
thousand
dollars
of
asbestos
abatement
to
do
and
that
finished
up
pretty
much
within
30
days.
We
went
out
to
bid
for
the
project
and
I'll
talk
about
the
seven
primes
that
we
use,
so
it
was
broken
down
under
New
York
state
law.
You
don't
just
have
one
contractor,
but
you
have
multiple
prime
contractors.
Our
bids
were
received
on
May
1st
and
we
had
a
really
good
return.
E
We
had
27
bid
results
for
the
seven
trades
and
I'll
go
through
those
in
a
moment.
What
we're
looking
to
do
is
get
the
authorization
from
you
to
do.
The
seven
bid
awards
for
these
seven
primes
next
week,
along
with
an
ancillary
contract
for
independent
materials
testing,
and
we
hope
to
begin
mobilization
the
week
of
the
sixth
and
then
Construction
in
the
following
week.
E
So
they
would
basically
make
a
construction
site
on
the
existing
parking
lot
and
begin
to
dig
out
rock
on
the
North
side,
where
we
have
to
level
that
Hillside
to
build
the
building
in.
We
think
it's
going
to
be
a
14-month
project,
so
we're
hoping
completion
by
around
Labor
Day
2024.
next
slide,
please.
E
So
in
the
bidding
process,
it's
broken
down
by
you're
required
to
break
it
down
by
four
or
five
trades.
We
we
ended
up
breaking
it
down
into
seven
traits
because
we
thought
we
could
get
cost
advantages
on
certain
items
as
I'll
go
through
that.
So
the
general
contractor
we
had
seven
proposals
in
in
the
italics
and
in
your
memos
is
the
low
bidder
which
is
Mid-Hudson
construction,
Management,
Incorporated,
you'll,
also
notice.
They
won
the
package
for
the
site
work
and
that's
a
good
thing
having
the
GC
and
the
site.
E
Work
done
by
the
same
firm,
which
is
a
good
reputable
firm,
helps
with
a
lot
of
the
logistics
of
coordinating
between
the
trades
mechanical,
which
is
also
HVAC
known.
As
HVAC.
We
had
five
proposals:
MDS
HVAC,
R
Incorporated,
with
the
low
bidder
Plumbing
we
had
five
proposals,
Sno
Construction
Services,
one
that
bid
electrical.
We
had
four
proposals:
rlj
Electric
Corporation
had
the
low
bid
fire
sprinkler.
There
was
only
one
proposal,
but
there's
really
only
one
company
in
the
region.
E
That
does
this,
so
the
reason
we
broke
this
out
is
because,
if
we
put
this
in
the
general
contractor
or
the
plumbing
contracts,
they
would
have
just
gone
and
done
a
contract
with
this
company
and
then
added
their
overhead
and
profit
on
top
of
that.
Similarly,
with
the
geothermal
Wells,
there
were.
Actually,
this
is
wrong.
We
had
two
proposals
and
Connecticut
Wells,
which
had
dug
our
test
well
some
time
ago
had
the
low
bid
on
that
and
then
again,
the
site
work
is
the
same
as
the
GC,
and
we
had
three
proposals
for
that.
E
Overall,
this
was
a
really
good
response
and
I
think
this
was
driven
in
part
by
us
hiring
the
Palumbo
group
as
our
construction
management
firm.
We
initially
weren't
going
to
go
with
that
model
and
we're
going
to
do
a
clerk
of
the
works,
and
we
really
got
good
value
by
doing
a
construction
management
firm
that
has
very
strong
networks
with
the
people
that
bid
these
and
again
we're
also
going
to
be
bringing
to
you
and
you'll
see
on
your
agenda,
a
proposal
to
hire
tectonic
engineering
consultants
for
independent
materials
testing.
E
Even
though
the
one
has
two
parts
of
this
they'll
have
separate
contracts
for
each
one
to
authorize
the
agreement
with
tectonic
engineering
consultants
for
the
independent
testing.
When
we
bring
the
capital
program
to
you
which
we're
going
to
present
at
the
May
22nd
meeting
and
then
talk
about
in
June
and
July,
we're
going
to
be
asking
you
to
increase
the
capital
program
for
four
million
dollars
and
again
we
we.
E
E
We
think
we
can
get
about
50
spots
on
the
street.
If
we
make
that
one
lane,
two
lanes
of
parking
on
both
sides
of
the
street
and
one
way,
and
then
we
can
see
what
what
Nick
and
I
discussed
is
having
a
law
that
sun
sets
in
18
months,
so
then
it
would
revert
back
and
again
we
may
find
that
we
like
it
and
then
we
can
leave
it,
but
I
want
to
vet
this
further
with
our
police
and
fire
and
traffic
safety.
Folks
before
we
steam
ahead
on
that.
E
Think
again,
this
is
a
long
time
coming.
This
community
has
been
working
on
this
for
at
least
17
years.
The
price
was
less
than
a
third
of
what
it
would
have
been
today.
If
we
had
done
this
in
2006.,
but
again,
I
I'm,
not
sure
you
would
have
had
the
same
product
at
that
time,
I
don't
know
if
the
geothermal
Wells
would
have
been
far
enough
along
to
do
that
and
I.
Don't
know
that
Beacon
would
have
been
in
the
financial
situation.
It
is
today
to
be
able
to
do
a
stately
beautiful
building.
A
E
And
it
serves
its
function,
I
mean
don't
get
me
wrong
like
that.
Building
was
was
a
tremendous
asset
to
the
to
the
city
for
for
decades,
and
it
had
a
really
nice
space
for
the
volunteers
to
have
their
events
and,
and
that
made
more
sense
when
you
had
an
all-volunteer
Force.
What
we
need
today
is
something
that
meets
all
of
the
new
Fire
standards
and
is
more
flexible
for
the
future.
E
B
E
Okay
yeah,
so
we
were
pretty
good
on
contingencies.
We
have
allowances
built
in
all
into
all
of
the
seven
contracts,
then,
on
top
of
that,
I
have
a
contingency
for
things
like
the
furniture,
fixture
and
Equipment
the
ffne
and
other
incidental
things
that
will
come
up,
and
this
includes
all
of
the
soft
costs.
So
we
ended
up.
You
know
we
had
to
pay
for
drilling
to
test
to
see
if
the
wells
would
go.
E
We
actually
ended
up
having
to
pay
quite
a
bit
for
the
engineering
of
around
the
roadway,
because
dot
owns
that
part
of
route
9d
and
we're
having
to
go
through
a
whole
permit
process
with
them.
So
again,
some
of
those
unanticipated
things
that
came
up
are
now
included
in
that
price.
So
I'm,
it's
a
pretty
solid
cost
and
as
at
to
the
extent
we
can
we'll
bring
it
down
like
if
we
don't
have
as
much
Rock
to
remove.
We
end
up
saving
money
on
on
the
the
contracts.
J
J
E
Those
are
great
questions,
so
the
the
the
term
of
art
for
these
is
bands,
they're,
Bond,
anticipation,
notes
and
they're.
A
short-term
financing
instrument
up
to
five
years
bonds
typically
are
for
the
life
of
the
useful
asset.
So
in
this
case,
because
it's
such
a
substantial
brick
building
and
it's
it's
essentially
new
construction
on
the
old
site,
they
would
be
30-year
bonds
and
what
we
can
do
with
the
bands.
E
Is
you
you
renew
them
every
year
and
it
allows
you
to
pay
down
the
principle
of
that
which
you
can't
do
once
you
take
the
bond
out
like
once
you
once
you
finance
this
under
a
bond
you're
locked
into
a
schedule
of
repayment
and
only
certain
bonds
allow
repayment
early.
It's
not
like
your
mortgage,
where
you
can
say:
I
got
an
extra
50
bucks,
I'll
put
that
in
and
it'll
save
me
on
interest.
E
So
these
bands
allow
us
to
pay
down
a
little
bit
of
that
and
also
wait
for
a
time
where
the
bond
market
might
be
more
advantageous
for
us
to
jump
in
you'll
recall
we.
We
did
a
bond
release,
maybe
18
months
ago,
when
the
rates
were
very
low.
Well
right
now
those
rates
have
ticked
up
and
they're,
getting
close
to
four
percent
for
a
30-year
Bond,
even
with
our
good
Bond
rating.
E
What
we
would
be
looking
for
is
is
a
time
when,
when
the
Outlook
is
is
better
for
us
to
go
out
and
bond
long
term
and
by
that
time
we're
hopefully
paying
down
parts
of
it
now.
Your
second
question
was
about
the
use
of
the
four
million
dollars
of
fund
balance,
that
that
is
only
a
portion
of
our
fund
balance,
so
at
least
it
still
leaves
us
with
nine
million
dollars
in
our
fund
balance,
which
is
a
healthy
fund
balance
Susan.
E
A
E
A
A
target
number
too,
that
the
state
controller
puts
out
for
fund
balances
and
we're
in
the
range.
So
after
the
four
million,
and
that
contrasts,
as
you
know,
with
the
other
city
in
in
the
county,
who
has
a
negative
fund
balance.
So
even
in
the
right
direction
and
someone
said
I
do
whatever
Susan
Tucker
says:
It's,
usually
the
correct
answer.
So.
A
A
B
A
A
No
less
than
half
the
price
of
a
full
build
out
of
the
old
plans
was
an
extra
Bay
facing
south
Ave
and
I
thought
that'll
work,
I
I
got
no
problem
with
that,
and
then
since
then.
The
second
thing,
I've
kind
of
said,
is
I'm,
okay
to
expand
past
the
minimum.
But
you
got
to
show
me
what
it
is
and
why
we
want
to
do
it,
and
so
the
first
big
one
that
occurred
was
saying
if
we
don't
do
five
Bays
facing
90,
because
that
was
the
original
and
we
only
did
three.
A
that
added
a
fair
bit
and
we've
added
some
things
since
then
that
still
put
a
renovated
building
at
a
much
lesser
cost
than
new
construction
and
land
acquisition
and
two
give
us
I
think
much
better
value,
so
I
sort
of
willing
to
kind
of
allow
it
to
go
above
the
minimum
up
into
this
range
simply
because
it
it
made
sense
and
then
the
third
thing
was
okay,
let's
find
the
financing,
which
has
been
a
combination
of
watching
our
fund
balance
and
the
negotiating
sales
tax
revenue.
It's
not
all
going
to
that.
You
remember.
A
E
Then
I'm
reminded
by
Nick
that
with
the
one-way
Street
change
in
order
to
effectuate
that
by
the
time
the
construction
begins,
we
we
might
need
to
set
a
public
hearing
next
week.
So
I
would
appreciate
you
allowing
me
to
put
that
on
last
minute
on
Thursday
I'll
be
vetting
this
with
the
Traffic
Safety
Committee
prior
to
the
meeting,
and
then
I'll
also
reach
out
to
South
Avenue's
principal
and
and
see
if
they
have
any
operational
issues.
E
K
E
That's
again
we're
going
to
start
fencing
stuff
off
and
that
those
first
weeks
of
June
so
and
and
again
we
can,
we
can
I'm
open
to
it.
We
we
have
time
yet
to
formulate
the
plan
on
it
that
the
early
idea
was
to
do
a
sunset,
because
it's
just
easy.
It's
like
okay
in
18
months.
We
know
we're
going
to
be
done.
E
E
We
were
going
to
propose
it
from
Main
Street
towards
Beacon
Street,
so
heading
Southward,
because
if
you
do
it
the
other
way,
you're
not
allowed
to
make
the
left
turn
and
then
people
will
inevitably
they
get
up
there,
they're
not
going
to
make
a
right
and
then
do
the
right
thing.
They're
going
to
go
left
and
they're
going
to
jam
up
the
intersection.
E
G
I'm
also
wondering
about
I,
don't
know
if
we've
done
we,
we
have
other
streets,
North
Cedar
as
an
example
of
this,
where
we
only
allow
parking
on
part
of
it
on
Sundays
because
of
church
parking
and
so
I.
Don't
know
if
there's
a
model
where
we
also
might
want
to
consider
variation,
where
it's
not
every
day
that
we
allow
that
I,
don't
know
what
the
need
is
generally.
E
E
E
E
E
A
E
These
seven
contracts
are
the
are
the
big
part
of
the
of
the
contract.
The
independent
testing
is
a
small
amount.
I
didn't
really
want
to
give
that
out,
because
I
don't
want
to
tell
them
how
much
I
have
for
independent
testing,
but
it's
under
our
bid
amount
which
will
give
you.
You
know
what
that
is,
and
then
you
know
we'll
have
some
purchases
that
we're
going
to
make
with
the
new
fire
chief.
One
of
the
reasons
I
wanted
to
hire.
G
E
September
2024
will
be
substantial
completion.
There
still
probably
will
be
some
punch
list
items.
You
know
at
the
end
of
the
project,
we'll
be
bringing
back
the
memorials
that
we
took
out
from
along
South
Avenue.
We
wanted
to
make
sure
that
those
weren't
broken
during
construction,
so
our
crews
actually
took
them
apart
and
put
them
in
a
safe
place
and
they'll
bring
them
back.
Similarly,
I
think
we're
going
to
have
some
long
lead
items,
so
there
will
be
things
coming
into
the
building
kind
of
towards
the
end.
E
We're
a
little
bit
worried
about
the
long
lead
times
on
electrical
equipment
and
we're
having
to
upgrade
the
electrical
equipment,
because
the
whole
load
of
the
building,
the
heating
and
hot
water
is
moving
from
natural
gas
to
electricity.
There's
there's
some
new
components
that
need
to
go
in
to
where
the
electricity
comes
into
the
building
and
and
that
I'm
told
there's
some
long
lead
items
some
of
the
larger
washers
and
dryers
those
might
have
to
get
installed
a
little
bit
after
we
open.
E
E
E
So
that's
a
great
question.
The
the
role
of
the
construction
management
firm
is
to
be
the
agent
for
us
day
to
day.
They
will
have
a
trailer,
that's
going
to
be
installed
as
early
as
next
week
by
the
visitor
station
on
the
south
side
of
the
visitor
center,
and
they
will
be
on
site
every
workday.
They
will
have
the
plans
in
their
office.
They
will
host
the
meetings
with
the
seven
six
Prime
contractors.
They
will
coordinate
the
scheduling
they
will.
They
will
figure
out
what
the
billing
is.
E
You
know
again,
this
was
a
lump
sum
bid
for
most
of
the
trades
with
a
couple
items
that
were
called
out
like
the
rock.
So
if
we
exceed
The
Rock,
we
pay
more.
If
we
have
less
Rock,
we
pay
less,
but
generally
they'll
come
to
an
agreement
on
what
these
quantities
are
and
how
much
of
the
work's
been
done.
Then
they'll
submit
the
payoff,
so
they'll
be
on
site
for
the
14
months.
The
architect
will
then
be
available
for
construction
Administration.
E
F
E
Bill
us
on
a
monthly
basis
based
on
a
14-month
project,
so
we've
they
build
us
somewhere
in
the
neighborhood
of
33
000
for
pre-bid
services,
which
they
were
involved
in
every
part
of
it.
When
we
did
a
page
turn
with
the
architect
that
went
through
every
detail
of
these
Pages,
they
were
there
all
day.
Here
they
have
gone
through
all
of
the
plans.
They
they
were
the
ones
who
suggested
initially
that
we
not
have
the
fire
fighters
stay
in
part
of
the
building.
While
we
were
fixing
the
other
part
of
the
building,
I
I.
E
E
D
E
E
So
we're
looking
through
that
Avenue
I've
had
our
climate,
smart
coordinator
and
our
engineer,
look
at
different
alternatives
to
talk
and
talk
to
the
Hudson
Valley
Regional
Council,
which
administers
a
lot
of
those,
and
we
haven't
found
a
lot
of
others.
I
haven't
called
you
know:
I
had
seen
news
about
new
pulses,
Warehouse
being
green
and
receiving
a
lot
of
money
and
when
I
called
them,
they
said
yeah,
we
didn't
get
a
lot
of
money.
We
got
forty
five
thousand
dollars
and
it
cost
us.
E
Thirty
thousand
just
to
comply
with
the
grant,
so
we
we
haven't
had
a
lot
of
success
on
that
I
thought
at
some
point.
If
we
come
back
and
do
a
solar
roof,
that's
also
a
good
kind
of
member
item
for
a
you
know,
our
member
of
the
assembly,
because
it's
a
discrete
identifiable
project
that
doesn't
just
get
lost
in
a
huge
project
and
I'm
going
to
give
you
that
number.
Four
at
some
point,
I'm
going
to
give
you
this
number
George
I.
E
F
E
The
other
thing
is
that
when
the
projects
can
become
unnecessarily
expensive,
when
one
or
more
of
the
trades
don't
deliver
on
their
part,
this
team
knows
how
to
manage
those
pieces
so
that
they
are
nipping
at
their
heels
constantly
to
get
it
done,
because
if
you
can't,
you
know,
put
up
sheetrock,
because
the
plumber
didn't
put
the
pipe
in
in
a
timely
manner.
That's
where
you
hit
cost
overruns
lawsuits
and
again
they've
worked
with
all
of
these
companies,
so
they
know
what
to
expect.
That's
great.
D
E
What
what
you're
telling
me
about
is
minority
and
women
business
Enterprise,
which
is
a
program
to
award
a
certain
percentage
of
a
job
to
designated
mwbe
firms
in
the
state
and
there's
a
similar
one
dbe
for
federal.
When
we
do
federal
grants
like
when
we
did
the
bump
outs,
there
were
set-asides
for
that
to
be
dbe.
For
instance,
when
we
do
Fishkill
teller,
Avenue
I
have
to
have
a
certain
percentage
of
an
M
or
a
wbe
in
the
construction
inspection,
because
this
didn't
have
state
grants.
B
E
Never
imposed
an
mwbe
and
I'm,
not
I.
I
haven't
heard
any
conversation
about
that.
Since
I
became
administrator,
I
do
know
that
the
state
increased
their.
They
tried
to
increase
their
mwb
for
certain
contracts.
They
when
I
started
doing
projects
some
of
it
was
10
or
15.
Then
it
went
to
30
and
they
were
trying
to
go
to
50.
and
for
some
trades
it
you
just
didn't,
have
availability
of
contractors
like
we
had
seven
people
bid
the
GC
I'm,
not
sure
how
many
of
them
would
have
been
able
to
comply
with
that.
J
So
Chris
I
mean
you
kind
of
touched
on
this
a
little
bit
but
I
guess
I'd
just
like
to
know
what
you
know
about
what
are
the
big
kind
of
unknowns
and
variables
that
remain
things
that
could
suddenly
drive,
cost,
probably
materials
I'm
guessing
because
they're
kind
of
fluctuating?
What
else
do
you
have
in
mind
and
how
do
you
think
we
would
cover
that
cost
if,
if
there,
if
it
went
up
even
farther.
E
E
E
What
we've
tried
to
do
is
build
it
so
that
if
it
is
more,
we
have
a
reasonable
unit
price
when
it
goes
over
and
then
the
way
that
we
did,
that
is,
if
it's
under
they
lose
the
same
amount
per
cubic
yard
that
they
don't
take
out.
So
they
they
couldn't
gouge
us
on
that
I
think
timing
is
going
to
be
a
challenge.
You
have.
E
We
had
timing
issues
even
with
the
design,
because
one
of
the
subcontractors
had
a
death
in
the
family
and
it
put
us
back
a
month.
We
have
so
again,
I
I
think
we
might
have
a
little
bit
of
time
overruns.
We
have
built
in
healthy
contingencies,
so
I
think
that
that
helps
us
a
lot
and
then
again
we
can
manage
as
as
it
goes,
if
I
know
we're
in
trouble
in
three
months,
I'll
come
back
and
let
you
know
and
we'll
we.
E
We
are
fortunate
to
have
a
very
robust,
healthy
fund
balance
right
now,
I'm
also
managing
projects
in
a
different
way
like
I'm
trying
to
slow
down
on
other
projects
that
aren't
you
know
that
don't
need
to
be
done
immediately.
For
instance,
we
were
going
to
redo
the
locker
rooms
and
the
wastewater
treatment
plant
I've
put
that
on
hold
we'll
slow
down
the
Reconstruction
of
the
melzinga
dam,
because
it
didn't
need
to
be
done
this
year.
It
could
be
done
next
year.
I
E
A
J
E
C
A
G
G
Also
saw
they
have
a
pending
new
certification
with
the
national
voluntary
laboratory
accreditation
program
which
to
provide
construction.
Material
testing.
Is
that
something
we
should
be
concerned
about?
Is
that
just
natural
like
they
have
to
reaccredit
every
couple
years
and
it
happens
to
just
fall
when
they're
bidding
on
this
so
I.
E
G
B
A
L
This
together,
I
believe
in
John
feel
free
to
jump
in
and
add
commentary
as
appropriate
yeah.
So
hearing
objections
will
proceed
in
that
way.
The
first
question
is
in
what
zoning
District
should
a
senior
affordable
housing
development
be
permitted,
and
you
know
we
we've
started
this
discussion
with
senior,
affordable,
housing
and
I
do
know.
One
of
the
issues
is
making
it
a
general,
affordable
housing
as
well.
L
Use
then
make
it
a
permitted
use
in
all
districts,
except
for
the
wpvhi
in
the
R1
District
or
allowed
as
a
special
permit
in
the
R1
District,
and
then
John
has
also
suggested.
We've
added
to
this
Memo
from
what
we
discussed
last
time,
that
you
could
also
limit
in
an
R1
District
to
Parcels
within
a
thousand
foot
of
walking
distance
from
major
Transit
routes
such
as
Route
9,
Main,
Street
or
official
teller
Avenue.
J
L
J
I'm
open
to
that,
that's
that's
what
I
think
is
best
I'm
a
little
concerned
about
having
it
as
of
right
for
the
whole
city,
because
not
every
street
is
the
same
in
Beacon
and
and
and
I
feel
like
we
could
create
situations
with
terrible
conj.
My
issue
with
adus,
too,
is
having
unintended
consequences
on
the
congestion
and
safety
of
the
streets.
F
A
A
A
With
smaller
lots-
and
that
might
be
another
approach
as
well-
I
lean
away
from
special
use
permits
simply
because
it
just
creates
roadblocks
for
construction
and
kind
of
the
new
thinking
is
to
not
have
those
roadblocks,
so
maybe
there's
a
way
to
to
Think
Through.
What's
the
issue,
as
opposed
to
required
to
come
to
council,
for
that,
the
other
option
would
be
to
give
it
to
planning
board
to
do
with
criteria
right.
D
That
reminds
me
I
think
I
need
a
refresher
on
the
premise
if
John
or
Nick
can
remind
me,
so
the
I
think
the
premise
is
that
there's
just
been
one
of
these
requested
and
therefore
that
indicates
that
there's
a
problem
with
our
policies
that
it's
keeping
senior
housing
from
being
built
and
I.
Think
you,
you
told
us
if
you
could
repeat,
if
you
still
have
it
at
the
ready,
how
much
time
that
adds
to
a
developer's
process
if
they
have
to
come
to
council
first
and
then
so,
just
a
refresher
and
then
I.
D
L
L
Approval
also
add
in
there
the
overlay
of
Secret
of
the
State
Environmental
Quality
review
act.
Typically,
your
planning
board
as
being
The,
Secret,
Lead
agency,
so
an
applicant
would
come
to
the
city
council
for
the
rezoning
special
permit
during
that
process.
Go
to
the
planning
board
for
reporting
recommendation
planning
board
would
also
make
a
secret
determination,
so
you'd
be
there
for
a
couple
of
months
and
then,
once
this,
the
secret
determination
is
made.
L
Copying
those
plans
Distributing
it
things
of
that
nature
and
it
gets
rid
of
some
uncertainty
as
well.
So
it
gives
a
developer
knowledge
that
the
council
doesn't
have
that
discretion.
The
council
has
already
determined
this
is
a
an
appropriate
use
in
the
zoning
District.
So
it's
more
likely
than
not
that
the
project
would
get
approved
subject
to
site
plan
approval.
M
M
Well,
it's
not
a
special
permit,
but
it's
a
concept
Plan
before
the
council,
and
that
has
added
significant
time,
for
instance,
on
the
groveville
site.
That's
currently
before
the
planning
board
that
was
went
to
the
council.
Now
it's
been
referred
to
the
planning
borders,
that's
taken
at
least
six
months,
and
it's
not
out
of
the
planning
board.
Yet
going
back
to
the
council
for
another,
a
public
hearing
then
back
to
the
planning
board
for
recycling.
M
So
it
does
deter
people
from
putting
in
applications
if
they're
faced
with
a
year
process
sort
of
minimum
to
get
a
project
through
and
I
know
of
at
least
two
cases
on
Main
Street,
where
the
developer
backed
off
a
special
permit
process
through
the
council
and
decided
to
go
with
a
three-story
building
instead
of
a
four-story
building,
because
they
didn't
want
to
take
the
time
going
back
and
forth.
So
it
is
a
strong
disincentive.
M
If
you
know,
obviously,
as
of
right
would
be
the
most
flexible
and
most
streamlined
process
still
requires
a
public
hearing.
But
it's
a
site
plan
public
hearing
instead
of
a
special
permit,
the
next
up
in
difficulty.
Would
it
be
a
special
permit
in
front
of
the
planning
board,
so
that
would
still
require
a
public
hearing
for
the
special
permit
and
conditions,
but
it
wouldn't
have
to
go
back
and
forth
between
the
two
bodies
and
then
the
next
one
would
be
a
special
permit
before
the
before
the
council
and.
J
I
mean
it
sounds
like
that's
kind
of
how
I
mean
what
you
just
described,
is
kind
of
how
I
would
like
to
see
the
process.
Work
which
is
to
is
to
have
these
projects
be
unimpeded
in
our
high
density
areas
and
for
the
city
to
have
extra
time
to
scrutinize
the
projects
when
they're
being
proposed
outside
of
the
dense
areas.
M
D
You've
been
talking
about
Transportation
plan
kind
of
relating
to
Dan's
concern
there,
and
that's
concern
has
grown
for
me
this
week,
hearing
from
one
of
our
residents,
who
is
no
longer
able
to
get
around
like
she
used
to
and
we
are
not
participating
in
the
Dial
A
Ride
through
Dutchess
County,
so
so
I
have
concerns
there.
I'd,
like
I'd,
like
to
hear
what
anyone
else
knows
about
that
I
haven't
I,
haven't
called
Dutchess
County
to
talk
about
it.
D
You
know
there
are
just
a
lot
of
ways
we
could
go
with
the
list
of
recommendations
that
you
put
out
there.
John
I
mean
paloma's
idea
about
an
affordable
housing.
Overlay
is
I,
was
very
interested
in
that
I'm
very
interested
in
the
senior
housing
overlay
as
well,
but
in
in
terms
of
the
decision
tree
where,
where
do
we
start
engaging
with
the
community?
More
I
really
want
to
hear
what
what
our
aging
Beacon
Community
thinks
about.
D
L
L
We
would
prepare
that
local
law,
you
would
Workshop
a
local
law
and
then,
when
you're
comfortable
with
it,
you
would
then
send
that
to
the
plan
board
and
you
could-
and
you
would
also
schedule
public
hearing
if
you're
looking
for
inputs
sooner
than
that
you
either
get
it
during
your
public
comment
or
you
could
hold
a
community
segment
or
a
hearing.
Just
asking
for
those
comments
on
that
issue.
L
D
A
A
We
used
to
have
that
come
to
the
council.
We
now
have
a
go
to
the
planning
board.
They
still
have
criteria,
but
the
view
was
that
it
was
both
simpler
for
the
planning
board
to
handle
the
whole
thing
and
also
probably
more
effective
in
terms
of
reducing
the
cost,
and
so
the
criteria
is
usually
want
to
fit
and
that
kind
of
kind
of
what
I'm
hearing
is
there's
a
fit
question.
A
A
You
know
you
can
argue,
you
know.
If
someone's
you
know
yells
loud
enough
or
or
has
enough
people
come
or
or
doesn't
have
enough
people
come,
there
isn't
an
issue,
but
oftentimes
fit
can
be
defined
by
things
like
you
know,
parking
concerns,
or
you
know
size
of
lot
or
other
things,
and
so
it
seemed
to
me
that
we
could
Define
something
that
would
be
specific
enough.
Where
we
could
say
you
know
we
could
have
the
planning
board
take
lead
on
that.
J
You
know
I
think
it's
a
little
more
complicated
than
that
it's
narrowness
of
streets
sidewalks
how
many
feet,
how
many
houses
or
how
many
cars
are
with
each
house
and
like
there's
some
streets
in
Beacon,
where
you
know
you
can't,
you
can't
add
anything
else
to
that
street.
You
know
because
the
Street's
so
narrow
and
people
can
barely
back
out
of
their
driveways,
but
that
might
not
be
captured
in
like
an
objective
study
done
by
the
developers.
J
Traffic
person
you
know
like
they
might
be,
trying
to
I.
Don't
know.
I
was
I,
always
kind
of
doubt
a
little
bit
the
contractors
that
are
hired
by
the
Developers
to
critique
their
projects,
but
I
I
think
that
having
elected
officials
who
are
familiar
with
the
neighborhoods
and
who
are
willing
to
walk
around
those
neighborhoods
and
talk
to
folks
about
what
they
think
of
senior
housing
in
their
on
their
street
is
a
is
a
good
thing.
I
didn't
I,
don't
think
it's
going
to
be
much
of
a
Time
con.
A
So
again,
the
examples
that
you
raise
point
me
to
I
can
specify
criteria.
So
you
said
narrowness
of
Street
I
mean
if
we
said,
there's
a
minimum
lot
size
of
a
half,
an
acre
that
would
actually
exclude.
Probably
you
know,
40
percent
of
the
Lots,
maybe
80
percent
of
the
Lots
in
Beacon.
To
begin
with,
so
I
think
you
could
start
addressing
it
by
by
actually
having
criteria
I
I
get
that
you
know
you
may
want
to
have
a
say
in
the
matter,
but
it
also
opens
the
door
for
non-objective
viewpoints
and
I'm.
D
M
Yeah
I
hadn't,
gotten
the
family,
so
I've
been
out
of
commission
for
the
last
two
weeks.
Dealing
with
that
and
so
I
didn't
get
to
that.
The
one
thing
I
did
add
to
the
decision
tree
is
that
you
could
put
a
limit
on
the
distance
from
one
of
the
major
bus
route
thoroughfares
so
that
it
wasn't
in
the
back
country,
neighborhoods
or
the
up
the
mountain
or
on
the
smaller
streets.
It
would
be
within
so
many
feet
of
of
either
Main
Street,
Fishkill
or
Walcott,
for
instance,.
I
A
H
H
D
We
we
certainly
want
to
try
to
do
the
low-hanging,
fruit,
sure
and
everything
you
know
if
everyone
agrees
on
senior,
affordable
housing,
and
we
can
do
that
and
make
it
more.
You
know
we
can
quickly
move
quickly
to
make
it
to
open
up
that
opportunity
for
our
community
great
but
missing
the
opportunity
to
find
out
from
Beacon.
You
know,
would
it
be
con?
Would
it
be?
Can
firefighters
think
what
do
our
school
teachers
think?
We
know
that
the
best
schools
are
the
communities
where
teachers
can
afford
to
live
there.
D
We
know
that
there's
a
lot
of.
We
know
from
the
study
that
there's
a
lot
of
housing
in
in
certain
quintiles
and
not
other
quintiles,
and
they
differ
based
on
you
know
whether
they're
renters
or
owners,
and
we
can
go
through
all
of
that
data
again.
I.
Have
it
right
here
so
yeah,
maybe
presenting
that
information
again
and
and
addressing
your
concern
about
car
before
the
horse
is
something
we
should
consider.
A
A
You
know
a
couple
years
ago
after
reading
some
books
and
some
meetings,
I
I
put
a
list
together
and
they
may
not
amount
to
a
road
map
right
and
so
does
the
county.
You
know
I
know
they
did
the
study.
Does
the
county
have
like
a
proposed
set
of
changes
that
in
some
order,
in
other
words,
do
they
have
something
more
like
a
road
map,
and
can
we
learn
that
do
we
know.
D
B
D
Again
after
the
county
did
the
study,
then
there
was
another
consultant
that
came
in
to
talk
about
how
to
engage
the
community
and
what
the
community
needs,
because
Community
buy-in
is
just
so
important
for
affordable
housing.
We
see
it
all
over
the
issue,
isn't
that
there
aren't
affordable
housing
options.
The
issue
is
that
matching
the
options
to
the
community
is
hard
to
do
because
there's
all
often
pushback
so.
C
A
A
G
Also
wondering
care
if
this
is
worth
and
part
of
me
is
like
oh,
this
sounds
like
it's:
just
bureaucracy
slow
it
down,
but
actually,
if
we
want
a
committee
in
the
city,
that's
not
the
city
council
to
look
at
housing
issue
a
bit
like
with
when
we
did
the
police
advisory
committee.
So
we
could
really
drill
down
on
that
expertise
and
is
it
something
where,
if
John
has
capacity
to
help
with
that
committee
and
then
that
committee
comes
back
with
proposals,
look
like
I'm
like
spending
this
time.
G
Looking
at
random
parcel
access
maps
of
like
we
have
a
whole
bunch
of
property
along
South,
Avenue,
that's
well
above
0.5
acres.
Do
we
want
a
bunch
of
senior
housing
along
South,
I,
don't
I,
don't
know,
and
so
I
feel,
like
I'm,
not
well
informed
to
make
that
decision
and
don't
want
our
community
to
feel
like
we're,
making
a
decision
without
that
their
input
in
the
fully
informed.
So
maybe
a
committee,
even
if
it
slows
us
down
now.
G
Having
said
that,
if
the
county-
and
there
are
you-
know
their
DMV
parcel-
comes
to
us
and
is
like
hey,
we
have
this
money.
We
want
to
do
it
now,
then.
The
council
might
be
like
there's
an
immediate
desire
for
us
to
do
something:
I'm,
not
or
the
MTA
I'm,
not
seeing
that
at
this
immediate
time
and
so
I
feel
like
we
might
have
some
time
to
do
this
properly,
to
create
a
road
map
either
ourselves
or
with
the
county
or
a
conjunction.
J
I
mean
we
don't
have
to
get
too
complicated.
We
could
do
a
Middle
Road
version,
but
I
mean
we
could
have
a
one
where
the
council
has
a
conversation,
but
the
things
that
we
want
to
achieve
right,
like
I've
heard
at
least
four
people
here,
say
that
they
want
to
build
more
housing
for
forty
thousand
dollars
for
people
making
fifty
thousand
dollars
or
less.
So
we
know
that
that's
something
that
the
council
would
want
to
do.
So
if
we
just
talk
through
a
bunch
of
different
ideas,
do
we
want
housing,
that's
specific
by
profession?
J
Do
we
want
housing,
that's
specific
by
age
range?
Do
we
want
to
protect
housing,
that's
affordable
now.
Do
we
want
to
create
new,
affordable
housing?
What
kind
of
affordable
housing?
Those
are
simple
questions
that
we
can
answer
as
a
group
and
then
we
can
use
those
to
create
the
policy
roadmap,
but
we
haven't
really
had
a
conversation
and
I'm
going
to
say
we
I
mean
apologize.
J
So
I've
been
kind
of
stuck
on
the
50
000
number,
admittedly,
but
I
think
that
we
have
to
have
I
think
we
can
iron
out
some
of
the
objectives.
If
we're
not
talking
about
the
policy
and
we're
not
talking
about
special
use
permits
and
whatever
other
things
we're
talking
about.
If
we
just
focus
on
what
do
we
want
to
achieve,
you
know:
do
we
want
more
artist
housing?
Is
that
the
thing
you
know?
What
are
the
things
well.
F
J
B
F
Think
what
John
is
presenting
here
is:
what
can
we
do
immediately,
which
might
have
an
impact
without
seeking
state
of
federal
subsidies?
So
I
think
that's
that's.
Why
they're
suggesting
this,
because
it's
an
easy
one,
it's
almost
a
low-hanging
fruit!
It's
a
senior,
affordable,
sustainable
senior,
affordable
overlay,
we're
eliminating
the
overlay,
so
I
think
that's
why
it's
being
presented,
but
I
also
agree
that
we
do
need
to
reach
out
to
the
community
and
see
what
they're
thinking
about.
A
B
A
D
Are
you
picturing
just
my
doing
my
presentation
again
be
because
I
I
I
worry
that
the
count
I
don't
know
if
the
county
has
anything
new
or
if
they
might
already
say
you
know,
we
have
provided
your
community
with
I'm
sure
they
would
come
but
they've.
Given
us
a
lot
of
tools
already
to
move
forward
and
some
of
it
maybe
just
Bears,
reminding
the
Council
of
you
know.
I
could
do
it
right
now,
but
I
don't
want
to
keep
everyone,
but.
D
D
A
So
so
John
Nick
we've
obviously
deviated
from
the
senior
housing
overlay
memo
any
advice
you
might
offer
Us
in
terms
of
trying
to
get
kind
of
a
high
level
view
before
we
dig
down
again
I
keep
looking
at
the
county
study
as
the
starting
point.
Do
you
think
that
they
would
come
and
present
it
to
us?
Do
you
think
that
you
know
we
can
just
you
know,
review
it
and
have
Ren
take
us
through
it?
A
M
I
I
think
you,
if
you
reached
out
to
the
county,
they
certainly
would
come
down
and
do
a
presentation
and
they
may
have
new
information.
That's
come
in
from
the
rental,
housing
survey
or
some
other
source
since
then,
that
that
study
isn't
a
year
old
now,
so
I
would
advise
that
I
mean
I
I.
Now
you
want
to
get
into
the
big
picture,
but
when
we
started
this
over
a
year
ago,
it
was
about
urgency
and
the
low-hanging
fruit.
M
The
things
you
could
do
fast
to
have
an
impact,
and
at
the
time
the
accessory
Apartments
was
the
easiest
thing
to
do.
Supposedly
and
then
the
senior
housing
was
the
next
in
line,
because
those
could
have
big
impacts
and
only
involve
changes
in
an
existing
zoning
law
to
make
them
more
flexible
and
and
more
available.
M
B
H
L
But
then
also
does
zoning
become
that
barrier,
and
how
do
you
work
to
make
sure
that
zoning
serves
that
purpose
of
protecting
the
character
of
the
community
that
you
want,
while
also
allowing
for
the
growth
and,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
this
all
comes
down
to
the
density?
What
amount
of
density
are
you
comfortable
allowing
and
where,
and
maybe
that
needs
to
be
one
of
your
focal
discussion
points
because
you
can
allow
senior
affordable?
L
You
can
have
affordable
housing,
but
you
need
to
determine
that
you
are
comfortable
with
allowing
more
housing
and
more
units
within
certain
areas
of
the
city
and
then
also
the
reality
is.
If
it's
going
to
get
built,
how
do
you
make
sure
that
the
development
Community
or
the
funding
is
there
to
encourage
and
allow
it
to
be
built
and
that
it
will
be
well
received
by
the
community?
I
think
those
are
some
of
the
fundamental
issues
that
many
communities
face
as
they
start
to
look
at
their
zoning
in
a
new
light.
L
A
A
Right,
let's,
let's
make
that
happen,
because
there's
a
bunch
of
questions
that
we
can
ask
them
since
the
study
like
you
know,
they've
got
a
fund
now
and
they've
actually
awarded
some
some
dollars
and
understanding
what
are
their
criteria?
What
are
they
looking
for?
You
know:
how
do
we
compare
to
other
communities?
I
mean
those
are
all
questions,
I
think
would
be
helpful
in
which
will
go
past.
D
H
C
A
A
Yeah
yeah,
okay,
that'd
be
great,
so
we'll
get
back
to
you,
we're
going
to
see
if
we
can
get
them
in
a
couple
of
weeks
and
it
might
be
another.
You
know
one
after
that.
So
let
us
see
what
we
can
find:
hey
John.
Let's
talk
afterwards
Chris
about
talking
to
the
county
and
see
what
we
learned
but
we'll
we'll
take
that
up
all.
A
A
L
Mayor
would
I
really
think
where
we
left
last
left
off
of
is
we
had
had
a
decision
tree
and
there
were
a
number
of
questions.
I
think
it
all
reverted
back
to
the
council
needing
to
speak
amongst
yourselves
and
come
with
what
were
you
policy
objectives?
You
had
the
cac's
memo,
that's
included
in
the
packet
I.
Think
the
council
wanted
to
review
that
memo,
and
you
wanted
to
see
where
you
were
going
with
that,
because
I
think
there
was
some
thoughts.
That
is
this.
L
Something
that
is
necessary
now
is
that
something
that
is
perhaps
going
to
be
self-regulating
as
the
state
enters
this
conversation
and
isn't
prudent
for
city
of
the
size
of
Beacon,
or
is
this
something
that
you
know
needs
to
be
on
your
agenda
now
given
other
issues
and
also
that
if
you
were
to
adopt
any
type
of
Regulation,
it
would
not
take
effect
during
this
season
and
I?
Think
Dan
has
some
questions
and
had
asked
that
the
CAC
mem
will
be
included
in
the
packet
and
we
had
it's
almost
included
in
the
packet.
L
J
Just
to
correct
that
thought,
I
I
had
I,
don't
think
that
I
participated
in
a
workshop
since
the
law
was
drafted.
I
could
be
wrong,
but
I.
The
draft
that
I
saw
I
liked
and
didn't
have
any
questions,
but
somebody
else
was
asking
about
the
gasoline
versus
electric,
which
prompted
that
somebody
and
I
don't
remember
the
conversation.
L
J
F
J
E
F
E
I
I
want
to
say
I'm
really
concerned
about
the
enforceability
of
this
we
had
talked
about
there
are.
There
are
people
that
run
these
companies
and
there
are
people
that
work
for
these
companies
if
somebody's
using
a
leaf
blower
the
person
using
the
leaf
blower
gets
the
ticket,
even
if
it's
a
person
that
doesn't
control
the
means
and
methods
of
their
own
employment.
They
get
the
ticket
so
I
I've
again
it's
like
when
we
have
a
noise
ordinance,
the
the
entity
that
that
enforces,
that
is
usually
the
police
department.
E
So
we've
had
a
broad
conversation
about
well.
We
should
be
not
doing
this
or
doing
that
with
police
I'm
I'm
concerned
that
our
police
you've
asked
them
to
do
a
lot
like
to
you
know,
upgrade
their
enforcement
of
traffic
laws
in
certain
areas.
They've
been
doing
that
we
continue
to
have
minimum
shifts
of
four
people
we're
lucky.
If
we
have
five
and
then
I
can
actually
put
somebody
walking
Main
Street
I
I'm
concerned
about
them
having
to
arbitrate
this.
E
If
you
have
a
a
lot
size,
for
instance,
are
they
going
to
have
to
look
up
what
the
lot
size
is
before
they
issue
a
ticket
half
the
time
by
the
time
they
get
there
somebody's
going
to
be
in
and
out
with
this
thing,
I
can
imagine.
I
saw
our
crews
using
leaf
blower
today
to
clean
the
sidewalks
and
I'm
sure
people
are
going
to
not
distinguish
between.
Oh,
we
have
a
leaf
blower
law,
but
it
exempts
public
workers
yeah.
F
E
I,
don't
think
you
want
to
send
police
to
give
tickets
to
low-income
workers
because
they're
using
a
tool
of
their
trade
and
and
again
I
I
get
like
I,
don't
know
if
you're
going
to
go
after
sound,
why
don't
we
go
after
the
jazzed
up
cars
and
the
motorcycles
that
that
make
mainstream
almost
unwalkable
when
they
go
by?
We.
E
E
A
So
is
there
a
is
the
law
in
our
packet?
It's
not
right,
no
yeah,
because
I
I
just
wanted
to
get
another
read
of
it
again,
but
again,
as
I
said,
I
I
just
have
kind
of
have
growing
have
grown
in
concern
in
this
area,
since
it
first
came
up
and
I
I
would
prefer
a
less
restrictive
way
to
kind
of
affect
noise
control.
J
I
mean
we
talked
about
having
very
low
fines.
We
talked
about
it
being
seasonal.
We
talked
about
it
like
give
there
be
a
fair
warning:
I
mean
I,
don't
know
how
that's
over
regulating
I
think
we're
pairing
the
regulation
back
quite
a
bit,
I
think
we're
trying
to
change
Behavior
as
opposed
to
blasting
everybody
with
tickets
right
well,.
K
A
Yeah,
it's
also
saying
that
this
particular
device
is
no
longer
acceptable.
Yeah
and
it's
like
you
know,
I,
don't
think
we
have
very
much
information
as
to
you
know
who
owns
one?
Who
doesn't
you
know
how
easy
is
it
to
replace
I
mean
I
I
go
into
my
you
know.
Local
hardware
place
that
I
go
to
and
everything
that's
for
sale
that
they're
advertising
is
the
battery
ones
right
now.
So
maybe
it's
a
problem.
That's
solving
itself,
I,
again
I'm,
just
a
little
reluctant
to
over
regulate
here.
E
And
I've
had
that
landscaper
came
in
who
I
know
met
with
at
least
two
of
you
and
I've
spent
hours
on
the
phone
with
him.
He's
really
upset
because
he
feels
like
you're
going
to
put
him
out
of
business.
Now
you
all
should
go
talk
to
him
before
you
do
this
law,
because
I'm
done
talking
to
him,
I
I
told
him
I'm
not
voting
on
this.
You
go
talk
to
the
people
that
are
voting
on
it
and
I.
Think
Dan.
You
should
talk
to
him.
You
you
got
a
small
business
in
town.
E
He
relies
on
this
technology
the
way
he
explains
it
he
comes
in.
He
does
a
small
lot
they're
in
and
out
of
there
in
10
minutes.
By
the
time
somebody
called
the
cops
they're,
probably
gone,
I
I
know
our
guy
going
down.
The
street
was
was
in
and
out
of
there
and
like
two
minutes,
you
know
because
they're
they're
very
effective
in
getting
getting
things
moved
quickly.
E
I
I,
just
think
you're,
gonna
I
think
you
should
talk
to
the
small
businesses
that
are
in
the
city
that
you're
going
to
impact
before
you
decide.
That's
a
big
issue.
I
haven't
had
a
single
complaint
about
a
leaf
blower
in
two
and
a
quarter
years,
but
I
have
heard
a
lot
of
complaints
about
traffic
and
I'd
rather
assign
The
Limited
police
time.
We
have
to
to
things
that
are
probably
more
important
to
more
people
like
traffic
and
speeding
and.
J
B
L
E
I
I
just
think
it's
ironic
that
you
don't
want
police
to
in
certain
things,
and
now
you
want
to
send
police
to
give
tickets.
They
are
going
to
give
tickets,
because
if
somebody
doesn't
put
this
play
this
out,
somebody
says
no
I
can
use
this,
then
they're
going
to
ticket
them.
If
they
don't
stop,
they
are
going
to
be
fined.
E
But
but
I
do
know
that
the
legislation
got
kind
of
patched
together
at
the
end,
when
Drew
was
on
their
way
out
the
door
and
and
that
last
meeting
was
like
okay,
we're
going
to
do
this,
we're
going
to
do
that
and
then
all
of
a
sudden
you
knew
we
saw
this
this
law
that
I
was
like
well,
this
isn't
even
consistent
with
the
CAC
memo.
Can.
A
A
E
G
G
L
G
So
right
now
they
are
Exempted
I'm,
not
saying
that
we
would
want
to
just
say
they're
no
longer
Exempted,
because
enforcement
might
still
be
an
issue.
But
if
it
I'm
just
curious
because
they,
the
electric
versus
gas
part
I,
just
wanted
to
be
clear.
What
we're
trying
to
regulate
and
not
to
say
that
there
might
that
the
gas
ones
might
not
be
more
harmful
in
some
ways.
But
is
this
something
we
want
to
also
incorporate
into
a.
L
J
G
B
D
Yeah
I'm
not
responding
to
the
legislation
because
I
also
don't
have
it
in
front
of
me,
but
just
the
whole
idea
in
general.
What
I?
What
I
liked
about
the
discussion
was
I
I
liked
the
cac's
recommendations,
as
they
were
presented,
I
think
they
were
presented
to
us
and
I
was
compelled
by
the
grid
of
other
communities,
who
you
know.
I
I've
just
watched
some
of
those
communities
in
their
commitment
to
environmentalism
and
I
know
that
you
know
broad
Strokes
right,
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
using
the
gis
word,
but
I'm.
D
Just
saying
that
you
know
in
this
Vision
that
we
have
or
that
some
of
us
have
of
Beacon
is
an
environmentally
friendly,
affordable,
City.
It's
you
know:
I
I,
like
I,
like
the
direction
that
those
other
communities
that
committed
that
have
committed
to
raising
awareness
which
I
I,
do
see
it.
As
as
an
awareness
raising
kind
of
issue.
D
G
Will
also
say-
and
this
is
me
reading
between
the
lines-
and
this
is
not
every
Westchester
Community-
that
it's
mainly
Westchester
and
it
mainly
happened
post
pandemic,
and
it
was
mainly
framed
in
news
reports
that
themselves
have
their
opinion.
It's
about
people
who
affluence,
have
started
working
from
home
and
didn't
like
the
noise
and
that's
why
there
was
huge
support
for
them
so
that
framing
of
it
in
multiple
communities
makes
me
a
little
questioning
about.
Is
it
really
environmental?
G
Is
that
really
the
main
driving
factor,
and
is
it
really
to
discussion
here
today
about
what
is
affordability?
Who
are
we
saying
afford
it?
Who
gets
these
tickets?
How
do
people
afford
equipment
I,
don't
think
it's
a
city,
we
probably
don't
have
the
funds
to
support
any
changes
in
equipment,
and
so
I
would
want
us
to
really
dig
into
it.
Once
we
have
a
copy
of
the
law.