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From YouTube: Beacon Council Workshop 12-12-22
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The City of Beacon Council Workshop from December 12, 2022
A
B
I'd
like
to
welcome
everybody
this
evening
to
our
Workshop
this
evening,
we've
got
a
lot
of
stuff
on
the
agenda.
The
mayor
will
not
be
here
in
person,
he'll
be
joining
us
remotely
I'll
be
sitting
in
it
occupying
his
seat
for
the
evening
and
we'll
start
with
roll
call.
I,
See,
Molly,
Justice,
Paloma,
Ren
and
Dan
and
Chris
are
all
here
and
we
have
drew
gammels
as
our
City
attorney
attending
remotely.
B
So
the
first
item
on
the
agenda
this
evening
is
the
beacon,
high
school
students,
participatory
budgeting
proposals
and
we're
very
excited
to
have
you
all
here
and
we
so
appreciate
all
the
work
that
you
put
into
this
and
all
you
thought
and
care
about
your
community.
So
we're
looking
forward
to
hearing
what
you
present
to
us
and
enjoy
it
and
don't
be
afraid
of
us.
B
A
Who'd
like
to
start
with
so
George
we're
going
to
have
Erin
hadiland
who's,
a
teacher
at
the
high
school
and
teaches
participate.
Participation
in
government
and
social
studies
introduce
the
students,
and
we
have
four
presentations
this
evening,
terrific
so
Erin.
A
If
you
want
to
kick
it
off
and
I
I
just
want
to
thank
Aaron
for
allowing
us
to
go
to
poem
and
I
went
to
the
school,
and
we
talked
to
students
tried
to
talk
about
local
government
a
little
bit
and
then
ask
them
for
help
in
deciding
where
we're
going
to
put
the
participatory
budgeting
funds
and
Aaron's
really
carried
the
work
on
that,
along
with
her
colleagues.
So.
B
C
C
I
cannot
think
of
a
more
amazing
way
for
students
to
see
firsthand
just
how
they
can
impact
their
Community.
The
directly
I
want
to
thank
the
BHS
Administration
for
being
so
encouraging
and
for
allowing
this
process
to
take
place.
Unfortunately,
Mr
Dwyer
is
getting
a
presentation
of
his
own
presentation
at
the
school
board,
so
we
he
could
not
be
here.
C
Most
of
all,
I
really
want
to
recognize
all
the
hard
work
that
these
young
men
and
women
have
dedicated
all
of
their
time
and
their
energy
on
their
own
to
complete
these
presentations
to
come
up
with
the
idea
and
really
have
worked
very
hard
to
come
up
with
ideas
to
better
their
community.
So
you
guys
are
really
amazing.
All
of
you
and
I
really
appreciate
that
you
guys
thank
you.
C
So
good
luck.
First
is
Dylan
right,
so
basketball,
basketball,
yes,.
D
A
Or
after
yeah
you
want
to
discuss
after
it
so
again,
I
I
think
the
the
context
for
people
that
are
just
tuning
in
is.
We
had
approached
the
school
about
helping
us
with
the
participatory
budgeting
process.
When
we
spoke,
certain
ideas
were
brought
to
our
attention
when
Paloma
and
I
came,
and
then
the
teachers
in
the
the
various
classes
followed
up
with
students
who
were
interested
in
promoting
a
particular
idea.
So
what
you
have
today
are
four
ideas
that
were
brought
forth
by
students
developed
by
them.
A
Some
of
them
have
even
shown
us
where
we
could
buy
these,
and
we
really
appreciate
the
work.
That's
gone
in
what
we
thought
is
they
could
present
these,
and
then
we
can
have
a
discussion
about
where
you
want
to
move
forward
on
that
and,
of
course,
we
can
work
with
our
Parks
director
to
figure
out
how
how
these
might
be
implemented.
E
Yours,
thank
you
for
having
me
my
name
is
Dylan
Howard
senior
at
Beacon,
high
school
I'm,
also
on
the
varsity
basketball
team.
If
that
matters
and
my
proposal
is,
as
you
can
see,
new
basketball,
hoops
and
pecan.
E
My
goal
is
to
improve
the
quality
of
the
city
of
beacons,
basketball,
hoops
and
courts
such
as
Memorial,
Green,
Street
and
loopers,
by
removing
the
old
basketball
hoops
that
are
now
outdated
and
replacing
them
with
more
modern
and
enjoyable
basketball
hoops
to
play
on
such
as
the
ones
that
you
could
find
at
Limekiln
Park
in
Fishkill.
That's
just
an
example
of
some
parks
around
here
that
have
made
the
change
to
a
more
modern
basketball
courts.
E
E
I
just
took
a
picture
of
Memorial
Park,
just
to
show
an
example
and
I
took
some
pictures
of
the
current
conditions
of
the
basketball,
hoops
and
Courts
at
Memorial
Park.
As
you
can
see,
the
net
is
falling
off
the
the
backboards
deteriorating
a
little
bit.
E
It's
pretty
dirty
and
the
rims
are
triple
rims,
which
are
three
rims
stacked
on
top
of
each
other,
which
is
a
lot
harder
to
score
on,
for
a
below
average
person
like
basketball
player
than
a
single
room
with
a
glass
backboard,
and
by
replacing
these
we
I
would
expect
more
people
to
come
out
during
the
summer
months
and
play
outside
as
opposed
to
inside
and
go
to
the
next
slide.
I
took
some
more
pictures.
E
You
can
see
the
the
screws
are
getting
rusted
and
I
took
another
picture
of
the
backboard
just
to
see.
Another
angle,
I
also
found
some
examples
of
basketball
hoops
that
are
more
preferable
to
play
on
for
people
like
me,
single
rims,
which
are
not
the
three
of
them
stacked
on
top
of
each
other
glass
backboards
and
they
are
planted
in
the
ground
and
are
adjustable
so
you
can
lower
the
height
or
higher
the
height
and
on
the
next
side,
I
put
some
links.
A
And
what
we
thought
is
after
each
presentation,
if
you
have
questions,
why
don't
we
do
it?
While
the
presenter
is
still
up
there
and
then
and
then
we
can
go
on
to
the
next
one.
F
G
The
back
of
the
preferable
basketball
goal:
is
it
acrylic
or
glass.
G
G
E
Well,
we
would
probably
start
at
Memorial
Park,
because
you
know
I
was
closest
to
school,
and
most
people
would
prefer
to
play
there.
It
would
probably
be
convenient
for
everybody,
so
there
are
four
rooms
currently
at
Memorial
Park
and
then
at
the
other
other
Parks
I
listed.
There
are
two
each
so
in
total
it
would
be
eight
rooms.
Thank.
D
B
And
when
you
say
that
these
kind
of
rims
allow
less
talented
or
I'm,
not
sure
what
the
word
would
be
basketball
players,
but
so
by
having
these
rims
that
might
encourage
people
that
may
have
felt
they
didn't
play
well
on
the
current
rims
that
they
might
play
better
and
it
might
encourage.
E
Them
to
be
using
the
courts
more
often
yeah
these
these
other
basketball
rims,
as
opposed
to
the
triple
rims
they
make
for
an
easier
shot.
So
the
current
rims,
like
even
me,
I'm
I,
would
consider
myself
an
above
average
basketball
player.
E
H
A
A
E
They're
stiff
and
since
there's
three
stacked
on
top
of
each
other
they're,
really
like
their
ball
like
bounces
along
around
a
lot.
It's
it's
a
lot
harder
to
make
a
shot
so
on
these
single
rims,
they
have
a
little
bit
of
give
on
them,
but
they
usually
do
not
break
if
you
get
the
right
which
I
listened
in
the
last
slide,
some
good
options,
cool.
D
Thanks
and
these
these
boards
are
adjustable,
so
they
can
come
down.
Yeah.
E
F
I
F
I
E
H
F
A
J
Thank
you.
I
worked
at
Beacon
pool
as
a
lifeguard
during
the
summer,
and
it
was
my
first
job
and
I
didn't
really
think
much
of
it,
but
when
I
saw
the
siding
of
the
pool
it
was
sinking
in
and
I
thought
that
was
a
safety
hazard
and
over
time
I
was
like.
Maybe
that's
the
drain
area
and
it's
normal,
but
I
was
thinking.
If
someone
did,
someone
were
to
jump
on
it
or
run
across
it.
J
They
can
fall
in
after
that'd,
be
really
dangerous
because
we
can
get
sued
and
someone
can
get
extremely
hurt
and
I
only
have
one
slide.
I
couldn't
get
a
picture
because
the
pool
was
closed,
but
I'll
read
some
of
the
bullet
points.
I
have
the
side
of
the
pool
where
the
children
walk
jump
into
the
pool,
sit
or
climb
onto
into
the
pool
in
the
shallow
end
near
three
to
four
feet,
and
also
at
the
next
section
in
the
beginning
of
four
feet.
When
you
press
onto
it
dirt
comes
up
and
it
sinks.
J
I
D
F
J
J
B
It's
like
this
is
even
though
there's
only
been
two
presentations
so
far,
but
it's
a
pattern
that,
from
your
own
experience
like
Paloma,
was
saying
that
we,
and
once
you
begin
to
sort
of
focus
on
what
you
can
improve.
B
You
focus
on
what
you
see
every
day
and
what
you
look
at
and
I
think
this
is
a
great
lesson
for
all
of
us
in
the
communities.
You
know
you
take
your
experience
and
you
look
closer
and
you
think
harder
and
what
can
be
improved
so
I
think
this
is.
This
is
really
a
great.
You
know,
project
that
we're
all
doing
together.
So
thank
you.
I
L
All
right,
so
my
idea
for
the
participatory
budget
is
to
have
at
least
one
refillable
water
station
water
bottle
filling
station
at
each
of
the
parks
and
Beacon
I
think
it
would
benefit
each
Park
immensely
because
when
you're
at
Memorial
or
any
of
the
parks
over
the
summer,
specifically
you
drink
your
water.
You
guys
are
all
out
having
a
fun
day
at
the
park
with
your
family
or
whether
you're
exercising
playing
basketball
whatever.
L
Another
aspect
of
it
is
the
environmental
impact.
I,
don't
know.
If
any
of
you
know
this
statistic,
but
60
million
plastic
bottles
a
day
are
put
are
just
in
the
U.S
alone
are
thrown
out
by
people,
and
if
we
were
to
put
stations
to
refill
your
water
bottle
in
the
Parks
again
specifically
Memorial
or
any
of
the
others,
it
could
help
cut
down
on
that
and
yeah
may
not.
L
L
The
one
I
was
focusing
on
mainly
was
Memorial
as
I
said
and
I
think
by
the
one
by
the
basketball,
hoops
and
maybe
another
one
by
the
picnic
tables
where
everyone
goes
to
eat
lunch
and
have
fun
birthday
parties.
All
that
I
think
if
we
had
at
least
two
in
Memorial,
specifically.
K
Of
the
the
different
pictures
you
shared
of
other
versions
of
this,
is
there
any
particular
version
that
you
think
is
better
of
one
over.
L
The
other
I
think
the
first
ones
that
I
showed
the
first
two
photos
that
I
showed
would
be
the
best
because
they
look
more
modern.
They
have
that
more
of
a
appeal
to
it:
Eye
Candy
of
sorts.
F
E
L
A
The
the
thing
is:
if
we
use
the
existing
locations,
we
don't
have
to
pay
to
re-pipe
the
water,
so
we
have
water
service
only
to
a
few
areas
of
that
park,
and
if
we,
you
know,
we
could
keep
the
costs
down
and
probably
install
more.
If
we
stick
with
the
locations
that
we
have
and
just
make
sure
they
work.
D
Do
all
of
our
Parks
have
have
water
Chris,
no.
A
No
riverfront,
we
don't
have
there's.
D
A
B
F
L
Would
say
the
difference
is
easily
accessible.
So,
instead
of
having
a
line
for
a
water
fountain,
you
could
quickly
go
fill
up
your
water
bottle
and
walk
away.
Go
back
to
hang
out
with
your
friends,
your
family
go
back
to
playing
volleyball
and
you
can
keep
drinking
as
you're
doing
those
and
just
also
to
have
an
easier
reminder
to
do
it.
L
B
B
B
B
I
have
one
of
them
and
I
always
forget
it.
So
I
have
this
one
in
my
bag,
but
I
always
refill
it
at
this
station
and
and
it's
very
quick
and
it's
been
very
convenient
as
well.
So
I
could
see
the
value
of
it.
A
M
Hello
I'm
here
representing
the
cemetery
by
vert,
plank
I,
think
it's
across
from
the
Saint
John
Church
next
items
yeah
and
the
goal
is
to
improve
the
overall
care
and
appearance
of
the
cemetery
located
a
corner
of
our
Plank
and
North
Walnut
in
city
of
Beacon.
M
I,
just
compiled
a
bunch
of
photos
that
I
that
me
and
Mrs
hadleen
had
taken
when
we
went
there
of
just
kind
of
stone
piles
and
we
couldn't
figure
out
if
all
of
them
were
headstones
or
just
rocks
that
people
had
found
and
put
by
the
trees.
But
there
was
just
seemed
to
be
like
a
copious
amount
like
there
was
like
three
or
four
different
trees
that
looked
like
that.
M
M
There
seems
to
be
many
Stone
piles
and
stacks
primarily
yeah.
Again.
There
was
a
few
different
ones,
also
just
like
centered
up
and
some
of
them
like
the
top
one
right.
M
There
is
definitely
a
headstone,
and
but
it's
so
like
it
has
so
much
like
moss
and
like
a
bunch
of
different
stuff
on
it
that
we
would
just
definitely
have
to
get
cleaned
off
before
we
even
figure
out
where
the
rifle
owner
is
the
next
slide
case,
and
then
we've
also
found
a
two
or
three
different
spots
that
looked
like
there
had
like
started
fencing
or
sectioned
off
areas,
but
they
either
never
got
continued
or
they
were
just
for
that
family
specifically
because
it
was
very
limited.
M
Even
the
parts
that
were
started
were
never
finished,
but
they
were
more
or
less
like
the
bare
minimum.
So
we
just
kind
of
wanted
to
get
them
removed
if
not
Friendly's,
partially
finished
and
cleaned
off,
because
a
lot
of
them
are
rusted
over
or
just
stuck
to
some
Stone
and
left
altogether,
and
it
just
didn't.
Look
the
prettiest.
M
The
fencing
we
were
more
looking
into
at
first
that
would
probably
be
more
affordable,
are
just
regular
metal
gates,
but
we
were
kind
of
looking
into
like
all
of
the
wrought
iron
and
the
cast
irons,
because
a
lot
of
different
cemeteries
have
them
Dunning,
Street
and
Saint
Johnson.
They
both
have
them,
and
even
though
that
one
is
a
little
bit
smaller
than
the
bottom
picture,
I
feel
like
it
would
still
be
useful,
or
at
least
be
a
little
bit
more
presentable
for
respecting
the
dead
and
the
dead
that
you
constantly
pass
at
that.
M
There
wasn't
too
many
with
graffiti
on
it,
but
I
had
just
seen
this
one
and
I
was
like,
and
that
could
probably
be
cleaned
with
general
maintenance,
but
at
the
same
time,
I
just
wanted
to
bring
attention
to
that
one
that
some
of
them
are
definitely
easily
cleanable
but
still
are
messed
with
and
tampered
with.
Next
slide,
please,
and
then
these
are
just
a
few
more
pictures
of
how
they've
either
fallen
over
or
somebody's
placed
them
or
messed
with
them
or
the
one
all
the
way
to
the
right.
M
M
F
M
A
lot
of
it
dates
back
to
this
one
couple
that
had
came
to
Beacon
and
they
didn't
even
end
up
getting
buried
there,
but
a
lot
of
like
African-American
and
black
people
ended
up
getting
varied
there.
So.
B
You
know
from
what
I
understand
there's
also
a
few
Civil
War
veterans,
African-American
Civil,
War
veterans
buried
there
do
you
know
who
who
has.
M
I'm
correct
it's
the
Saint
John's
Church
I
tried
to
get
in
contact
with
them
and
I
left
them
a
voicemail
or
two,
but
they
never
ended
up
getting
back
to
me.
Mark
Phillips
ended
up
getting
back
to
me
before
they
did
so.
I
was
just
in
contact
with
him
for
a
while,
and
he
was
explaining
to
me
a
lot
of
the
history
or
how
he
was
just
taking
care
of
it
for
a
while,
but
yeah
I
know
if
I'm
corrected
to
them.
B
M
B
B
F
A
I,
don't
know
if
and
and
I
know
that
they
no
longer
at
the
address
that
they
were
at
when
that
document
was
done.
Do
you,
I
I
thought,
when
I
I
heard
that
a
group
at
the
school
was
working
with
some
of
the
people
that
might
own
or
be
involved
in
the
cemetery?
Is
that
happening
yeah.
M
Yeah,
the
BSU
is
looking
more
into
how
to
like
at
least
get
a
group
of
volunteers,
whether
from
the
school
or
outside
of
the
school,
to
just
go
help
and
do
a
general
cleanup
of
it
before
anybody
else
gets
to
it.
But
I
was
just
with
Mark
Phillips.
M
B
M
Yeah
yeah
the
cemetery
behind
the
school.
They
do
that
for
also
like
when
football
field,
but
I,
don't
know
how
often
they
end
up
doing
it
for
the
verb
link.
One
anymore
right.
F
O
Oh
hey,
can
people
hear
me
yep,
that's
the
mayor.
This
is
an
interesting
one.
My
recollection
is,
there
might
actually
be
three
cemeteries
on
that
site,
as
opposed
to
one
and
I
think
the
Historical
Society
has
a
brochure
on
cemeteries
and
Beacon.
Where
that
gets
explained.
True,
you
seem
to
be
nodding
there.
You
know
something
about
it
right.
P
P
Yeah
one
is
owned
by
the
Christ
Methodist
Church
one
is
owned
by
an
unknown
owner
and
then
the
the
portion
of
the
cemetery
closest
to
meliopatina
place
is
actually
owned
by
the
city,
and
we
took
that
property
I
believe
in
2019
as
part
of
an
in-ram.
So
there
are
headstones
on
that
property
as
well.
So
you
know
it's
definitely
convenient
to
do
work
on
city
property
to
do
something
on
the
portion
in
the
middle
owned
by
right.
P
Now,
it's
just
listed
as
private
Cemetery
we'd
have
to
do
some
research
about
who
that
owner
is
and
how
we
can
get
involved
and
same
thing
with
the
Christ
Methodist
Church.
It
would
take
a
little
bit
more
research
to
figure
out
how
the
city
can
get
involved,
and
you
know,
use
public
funds
to
renovate
the
cemetery.
So
we
just
have
to
look
into
it
a
little
bit
more
this
because
it's
not
city-owned
property,
but
we
do
think
that
there
are
possible
Avenues
to
using
such
public
funds
under
General
Municipal
law.
P
D
Jayden,
did
you
happen
to
look
into
the
costs,
maybe
particularly
of
the
fencing
which
looks
like
the
more
expensive
thing
on
the
list.
M
Well,
the
fencing
overall
would
probably
be
around
1500
to
3,
000
and
inputting.
It
would
probably
I
want
to
say,
add-
probably
another
500
to
it,
especially
to
get
the
entire
like
the
entirety
of
it
and
now
there's
three
so.
M
M
D
K
I
was
curious
with
the
fencing.
If
you
had
an
opinion
about
how
accessible
you
you
want
the
future
state
of
these
cemeteries
to
be.
Do
you
want
people
to
feel
that
they
can
walk
into
it
and
through
it,
do
you
want
it
to
be
somewhere
where
it
is
more
secluded
and
those
who
have
relations
in
there
kind
of
what
your
overall
thought
was
about
the.
M
Space
personally,
probably
a
little
bit
of
both
I,
would
like
offense
on,
like
each
side
of
it.
M
So
probably
like
three
fences
for
people
to
easily
and
like
have
easy
access
to,
because
I
know
a
lot
of
people
just
walk
through
it
at
the
moment,
just
to
have
a
shortcut,
so
I
wouldn't
want
to
like
take
that
away
from
them,
but
simultaneously
have
them
like
I
want
to
have
people
be
able
to
walk
through
it
like
casually
and
not
have
to
be
like
a
city
official
or
something
to
just
open
it
or
go
through
it,
but
for
that
to
have
like
some
type
of
section
to
it.
So
it's
just
its
own
space.
M
I
I
think
I'm
I
know
this
wasn't
the
focus
of
your
presentation,
but
one
of
the
parts
that
I
found
really
compelling
about
the
space
is
who
is
potentially
buried
there
I'm
just
curious.
If
that
is
I
know,
that's
not
necessarily
a
budgetary
concern,
and
so
that's
probably
why
you
didn't
put
it
in
the
presentation
but
I'm
curious.
M
Yeah
most
definitely
that,
like
you,
said,
I,
didn't
have
it
in
the
presentation,
but
I
live
in
Hudson
View
and
like
there's
a
bunch
of
like
markers
all
around,
even
when
you're
coming
in
there's
like
a
huge
one
that
you
can
read
off
of
and
I
would
definitely
love
one
like
on
one
of
the
corners
of
it.
Even
if
it's
by,
like
the
verb
link,
sign
itself
and
like
I,
was
saying
before
I'm
in
contact
with
Emily
mernane
and
she
runs
the
history
or
helps
run
the
Historical
Center.
M
And
she
already
has
a
lot
of
the
information
on
it.
It's
just
a
matter
of
cleaning
them
and
figuring
out
which
one
is
which
and
less
of
like.
We
don't
have
all
of
the
information,
but
it's
less
of
like
who
is
this
person
and
what's
their
history
and
more
of
we
just
need
to
get
it
cleaned
and
like
properly
put
back
together.
D
If
I
remember
correctly,
there's
when
we
were
talking
about
the
cemetery
on
Beekman,
there's,
there's
companies
that
specialize
in
this
type
of
Cemetery
restoration.
If
I
recall
correctly
right,
did
you
know
about
that?
It's
like
I,.
A
And
the
other
thing
to
keep
in
mind
is
these
ideas,
even
if
we
don't
fund
them
like
we
may
not
be
able
to
fund
this
immediately,
but
we
can.
We
can
also
figure
out
how
we
work
with
you
like.
If
you're
doing
a
cleanup,
we
have
trucks
and
we
might
be
able
to
take
away
the
you
know
the
debris,
the
brush,
the
leaves
and
stuff.
A
So
so
again,
I
think
the
value
in
this
is:
we
only
have
ten
thousand
dollars,
and
that
only
goes
so
far,
but
all
of
these
things
are
now
on
our
radar
so
like
the
pool
repairs,
probably
going
to
be
more
expensive
than
ten
thousand
but
it,
but
it
gives
us
a
better
idea
what
to
add
to
our
future
Capital
plans
for
improvements.
Similarly,
with
this,
we
can
figure
out
how
we
can
integrate
this.
Maybe
in
our
operations
when
they're
doing
cleanups.
A
And
I'll
say:
I
didn't
know
that
we
owned
a
property
on
the
back
side
of
that
until
you
brought
up
the
idea
and
sent
in
a
presentation
and
then
I
went
trying
to
figure
out
who
owns
what
and
it,
and
here
we
own
more
than
a
half
acre
on
Melia
Bettina
that
backs
up
against
these
cemeteries.
So
you
have
some
potential
space
there
to
work
with
for
public
spaces,
yeah.
A
D
F
A
Do
we
could
it
so
it's
on
the
agenda
for
tonight.
You
have
your
last
voting
meeting
next
Monday.
So
if
you
wanted,
maybe
to
think
about
a
prioritization
that
you
would
think,
then
then
what
I
would
do
next
is
go
to
the
department
heads
that
really
make
this
happen
and
say
you
know:
do
you
think
you
can
get
this
done
within
that
budget?
So
and
again,
if
we
we
can't
I,
think
all
of
these
are
really.
A
This
is
a
lot
of
great
information
for
us
to
have,
and
it's
all
actionable
like
we
can
figure
out
how
to
make
some
of
these
things
happen
outside
of
this
process.
A
So
so
again,
if
you
have
ones
that
you
want
to
set
a
prioritization
for
we
can,
we
can
go
as
far
down
that
list
as
we
can
get.
B
Yeah
I
mean
I
was
thinking
as
people
would
doing
their
presentations
that
again
it's
ten
thousand
dollars.
It's
not
a
lot
of
money
relative
to
I
mean
it
seems
like
a
lot.
Ten
thousand
dollars
is
still
a
lot
of
money,
but
I'd
like
to
think
of
it,
as
what
can
we
do
with
for
the
most
the
the
greatest
good?
You
know
that
will
affect
the
most
people
and
with
a
little
bit
of
money,
but
what
will
have
the
most
impact
for
this
ten
thousand
dollars?
How
do
we
spread
it
out?
A
Know
and
as
three
of
these
involve
your
Parks,
one
of
the
other
things
we
could
do
is
I
could
work
with
Mark
over
the
next
few
days
to
come
up
with
a
recommendation,
and
we
could
try
to
get
some
some
numbers.
One
of
the
one
of
the
things
that
hits
us
is
something
might
cost
less
for
a
private
citizen
who
does
it,
but
the
city
ends
up
paying
prevailing
wage
for
certain
things
and
it
it
sometimes
gets
a
little
more
expensive
than
we
initially
think.
D
I've
been
taking
note
of
some
of
the
dollar
amounts.
If
it's
helpful
for
folks,
the
Hoops
would
be
eight
times
seven
hundred
and
fifty
dollars,
which
is
six
thousand
dollars
the
pool.
The
cost
is
unknown
right.
A
Right,
the
brief,
probably
expensive,
but
probably
expensive,.
D
The
refill
stations
are
five
to
a
thousand
dollars
each
if
we
say
they're
a
thousand
dollars
each
that
comes
out
to
four
thousand
dollars.
We
have
three
thousand
dollars
of
fencing,
but
I
I'm,
not
sure.
If
we
know
how
much
fencing
we
would
need
until
we
figure
out
what
we're
putting
the
fence
around,
we
would
have
to
work
out
some
of
those
yeah
legal
stuff
about
the
three
different
cemeteries.
That's
the
that's!
The
numbers.
B
As
a
former
contractor
I
know
that
you
get
these
numbers,
then
you
forget
all
the
other
stuff
that's
involved
in
in
actually
executing
it
like
labor
labor,.
B
D
A
I
heard
initially
back
from
our
Park
director
that
this
would
be
a
much
more
substantial
rebuild
again.
We
in
the
city
inherited
the
pool
from
the
settlement
camp
and
we've
tried
to
keep
it
going
without
a
major
redo
which
is
can
be.
You
know
in
the
many
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars,
so
we've
we've
been
able
to
get
through
with
patching
it
and
fixing
it
at
some
point.
A
A
I
mean
the
the
other
option
too,
like
we
can
talk
to
Mark,
and
maybe
you
do
a
little
bit
of
the
Hoops.
You
know
a
little
bit
one
of
the
stations
we
look
at
what
we
can
do
with
the
pool,
and
then
we,
the
the
one
with
the
fencing,
is
going
to
take
a
little
more
time,
because
we
have
to
figure
out
the
property
interests
who
owns
what?
What
are
we
allowed
to
do?.
F
B
A
And
I'd
like
to
have
a
conversation
with
our
DPW
to
understand
what
they
do
now
like.
We,
we
own
that
back
lot,
so
we're
already
over
there,
presumably
mowing
it
at
some
point,
so
we
I
can
also
assess
what
we
might
be
able
to
do
in-house
without
spending
the
ten
thousand
ten
thousand
dollars.
A
P
65
states
that
cities
can
can
maintain
abandoned
cemeteries
that
are
the
city's
primary
responsibility.
Primary
responsibility
is
not
really
a
defined
term,
so
we
have
to
dig
deeper
on
what
that
means.
There's
also
another
option
where
you
can
enter
into
agreements
with
other
Cemetery
corporations,
we're
not
sure
if
that
applies
to
public
or
private,
and
whether
the
church
ownership
by
the
church
would
count.
P
If
it
does
count,
you
can
just
maintain
it
for
them
or
enter
into
some
sort
of
agreement.
So
we
do
have
to
dig
into
those
options
and
what
the
different
and
what
the
different
options
are,
because
there
are
a
couple
out
there.
Gentlemen,
is
below
165
and
165
A
and
the
set
that
up
for
us,
and
we
just
have
to
explore
what
that
means,
what
we
can
do,
what
are
the
limitations,
but
there
is
Grants
there
are
grants
out
there
and
funding
available
for
Cemetery
maintenance
or
more
Cemetery
improvements.
O
Yeah
I
think
it's
the
Secretary
of
State
as
a
division
on
abandoned
cemeteries
or
something
so
I
think
there
might
be
some
funding
there
that
were
explored
it.
But
that's
what
I
understand.
A
Well,
we
can
do
some
research
and,
as
you
meet
with
the
the
historic
folks
in
the
volunteer
coordinator,
I'd
love
for
you
to
bring
me
into
one
of
those
meetings.
So
I
can
maybe
see
what
opportunities
we
have
to
support
those
activities.
You
know
outside
of
ten
thousand
dollars,
so
we
I
mean
we
have
trucks,
we
have
equipment,
we
have
Staffing
if
you're
doing
a
big
cleanup.
Perhaps
we
can
provide
some
real
support
for
that,
so
Miss
Adeline
you're
welcome
to
give
my
number
to
yes
to
your
students.
N
One
thing
I
would
like
to
hear
a
little
more
from
Mark
about
specifically
like
with
the
basketball
hoops
is,
if
maybe
it's
possible,
just
to
replace
the
backboards
and
the
rims,
and
not
necessarily
the
poles
as
well,
because
I
think
Mark
was
saying
that
the
polls
have
been
replaced
like
five
or
six
years
ago.
So
those
those
might
be
newer
and
I
mean
I.
Imagine
that
would
be
a
lot
cheaper
than
also
uninstalling
and
reinstalling
new
poles
as
well,
or
maybe
it's
not
cheaper
to
get
specifically
just
a
backboard
in
a
room.
N
N
Yeah
one
thing
that
I
was
also
curious
about
and
I
didn't
ask.
While
you
were
presenting
I
apologize,
but
I've
seen
I
mean
I,
think
we
have
one
in
this
building
the
Jewel
water,
fountain
and
water
bottle,
filter
dispensers,
but
I've
only
like
seen
those
indoors
do.
I
N
And
another
just
another
question:
do
we
know
how
well
those
work
in
places
with
our
climate,
where
you
know
it
gets
cold,
where
we
do
have
freezing
temperatures.
A
Yeah
I
would
presume
that
we
would
shut
the
water
to
it
at
the
end
of
October
or
early
November,
like
we
do
with
the
bathrooms.
We
basically
have
a
shut
off
that
I'm
I'm
guessing
they'd
probably
shut
it
off,
maybe
where
it
comes
out
of
the
street
there's
a
valve
and
then
we
just
empty
it
and
then
you're
you're
good
till
the
spring.
A
N
And
starting
any
of
these,
what
do
you
think,
like
the
timeline
would
be
to
just
like
get
started
like
actually
implementing
any
of
these
projects?
Would
that
be
more
sort
of
starting
in
the
spring?
I?
Don't
know
that
any
of
these
could
be
started
in
January,
maybe
the
fencing
per
se
if
all
of
the
logistics
got
figured
out,
but.
N
A
Think
your
easiest
one
to
implement
is
the
basketball,
backboards
and
ribs,
and
that
could
be
that
could
be
done
right
in
the
winter.
If
you
can
get
your
your
parts,
I
mean
we've
had
issues
with
supply
chain
disruptions,
as
Stan
knows
from
like
a
year
of
waiting
for
equipment
at
Green
Street.
But
if,
if
we
can
get
them,
they
could
be
installed
pretty
readily
in
the
spring.
A
You
could
do
the
water
fountains
I
would
wait
till
April
the
fencing
again
I
I
would
I'm
cautious
about
because
I
don't
know
how
complex
the
property
issues
are
yeah
and
then
the
pool
I
would
say
we
should
do
an
assessment
pretty
quickly
and
figure
out.
A
Is
there
something
we
could
do
in
the
interim
absent
doing
a
new
liner
for
the
pool
which
we
did
discuss?
I
mean
it's?
It's
it's
a
major
I
I
I,
don't
remember
the
number,
but
I
know
it
was
enough
to
tip
our
capital
budget.
A
Yeah
so
we'll
come
back
to
you
next
week,
we'll
do
a
little
homework
of
and
and
see
what
we
can
get
and
I
really
appreciate
all
of
the
feedback
that
I've
had
from
Aaron's
class.
We
we
Paloma
and
I,
have
a
list
of
things
that
people
have
brought
to
our
attention.
That
includes
some
of
these,
but
there's
a
lot
of
ideas
that
I
think
are
going
to
continue
to.
F
B
Well,
I
think
that
money
is
in
good
hands,
we'll
find
good
place
to
put
it
with
your
help.
Thank
you.
Thanks
again,
everybody.
A
And
we'll
let
you
know
the
outcome
as
well,
so
you'll
see
the
mirror
yeah.
G
F
B
B
Right
so
we've
got
a
lot
of
appointments
to
make
going
forward,
so
the
first
appointment
is
of
James
Cottrell
to
the
position
of
motor
equipment
operator.
Yeah.
A
So
I'm
I'm
going
to
lump
these
next
four
together
and
just
give
you
the
context
for
it.
We
had
a
retirement
this
summer
of
an
hmeo
and
which
is
a
heavy
motor
equipment
operator.
It's
a
higher
level
position.
We
backfilled
it
with
an
Meo
at
the
time,
because
that's
what
we
really
needed
kind
of
more
on
the
ground.
We
we
have
a
couple
people
out
on
injuries,
we're
now
going
to
backfill
that-
and
we
had
intended
to
cuddle
tonight
to
do
that.
A
And
then
we
had
a
resignation
a
couple
weeks
ago
of
one
of
our
best
operators,
who's
going
to
become
a
foreman
somewhere
else.
So
it's
a
great
opportunity
for
him
and
we'll
be
filling
two
hmeo
positions,
and
then
that
opens
up
two
of
the
lower
positions,
the
MEO.
So
tonight
you
have
two
heavy
motor
equipment
operator,
which
is
the
higher
skill.
Job
and
two
motor
equipment
operators
are:
are
DPW,
superintendent,
Michael
Mansi
and
some
of
his
staff
and
our
HR
Director
interviewed
James,
Cottrell
and
Edison
tennis
soccer
and
I'm.
A
Sorry,
if
I'm
mispronouncing,
that
I
wasn't
in
the
interview,
the
and
they've
made
a
recommendation
to
hire
both
of
these
gentlemen.
Both
of
them
have
a
lot
of
experience
with
tree
work.
A
Edison
is
bilingual
as
well,
and
we've
been
trying
to
increase
our
bilingual
staff
so
that
when
people
are
doing
work,
we
have
a
lot
of
contractors
that
come
in
and
many
of
them
have
have.
Staff
that
are,
you
know,
need
some
interpretation.
So
we
think
these
are
great
opportunities
to
add
to
the
department
and
then
on
the
hmeos.
We
have
two
current
emeos
Chris
sagitto
and
Zach
Ross.
Both
were
hired
fairly
recently
and
both
have
really
shown
that
they
are
Adept
at
using
these
pieces
of
equipment.
In
fact,
what
we
did?
A
We
had
three
people
interested
in
to
the
two
positions
and
we
gave
a
test.
We
had
five
pieces
of
equipment
that
they
tested
on
and
it
was
very
close,
but
we
have
two
top
candidates
that
we're
going
to
be
asking
you
to
approve
next
week.
We'll
also
have
another
hmeo,
probably
coming
up
in
March,
so
that
third
person
definitely
has
again.
We
we
go
through
staff
and
we
try
to
advance
our
staff
from
the
entry-level
positions
right
up
to
the
higher
positions
are.
A
They
have
a
CDL
yeah,
they
have
a
commercial
driver's
license
that
allows
them
to
drive
the
bigger
trucks
that
operate.
You
know
the
backos
and
and
some
of
the
other
equipment
that
we
have,
but.
A
F
A
So
those
are
our
last
hires
for
the
year
yeah
and
it's
a
good
time
to
get
an
hme
on,
because
snow
is
snow.
Season
has
begun.
F
K
Already
mentioned
this,
but
I
appreciate
that
for
the
two
new
people
who
might
be
joining
us,
that
they
both
bring
that
that
tree
maintenance
expertise
so
being
a
tree,
City
I'm,
making
the
assumption
that
there'll
be
opportunities
for
them
to
use
and
build
on
those
skills.
So
it's
great
to
just
have
people
with
multiple
skill
sets
joining
us
here.
B
Yep
reappointment
of
John
Stella
to
the
board
of
assessment
review
so.
A
We
have
a
lot
of
expirations
and
we'll
be
bringing
you
rounds
of
these.
So
what
we
tried
to
do
tonight
is
do
the
three
boards
that
have
real
legal
Authority
under
our
code
and-
and
you
know,
the
the
zoning
board
of
appeals,
the
planning
board
and
the
board
of
assessment.
We're
also
going
to
have
to
reappoint
a
lot
of
the
members
of
the
CAC
HRC,
so
Ben
is
still
compiling.
Some
of
those
dates
are
not
yet
clear
to
us,
so
we're
trying
to
figure
out
who
those
would
be.
A
We
wanted
to
get
these
in
before
the
end
of
the
year,
because
they
have
meetings
in
January
and
are
overseeing
projects,
so
John
Stella
was
elected
as
the
chair
of
the
board
of
investment
assessment
review.
This
board
really
only
meets
a
couple
times
a
year
around
the
the
assessment
day
and
they
listen
to
people
that
challenge
their
assessments.
Consider
any
facts
that
they
bring
about
the
evaluation
of
the
property
and
they
help
make
recommendations
and
to
the
assessor
about
whether
or
not
to
adjust
that
assessment.
Chris.
A
K
A
A
I,
don't
know,
okay,
see
some
some
folks
don't
have
a
resume
ready
to
go.
So
if
you
haven't
done
a
job
in
a
long,
we
have
people
that
have
served
and
some
people
you
know,
keep
their
resumes
up
to
date.
John.
A
I
But
it
would
still
be
helpful
to
know
his
qualifications
and
to
have
that
be
in
the
public
record.
D
Maybe
he
could
just
email
a
list
of
where
he's
worked.
A
Again,
I
I,
don't
know
what
I
can
get
I
I
I
know
that
he
he
was
qualified
enough,
that
he
was
appointed
before
I
I
presume
that
when
you've
had
somebody
on
a
board
who
is
so
successfully
on
that
board,
who's
recommended
by
the
staff
that
they
interact
with
that
that's
less
critical
than
somebody
new
that
you're
trying
to
gauge
if
they
have
the
qualification,
you
have
somebody
that
had
the
respect
of
his
peers
enough
that
he
actually
was
made
chair.
A
You
know
again,
if,
if
you're
retired
and
you're
offering
your
services
to
the
city
to
do
this
and
we
make
it
onerous,
we
we
asked
him
in
the
favor
to
do
this
again.
So
I
want
I
want
to
be
clear
like
if
we're
going
to
make
it.
So
you
know
we
chase
people
away,
because
we
we
want
to
have
a
resume
and
they
may
not
have
a
resume.
D
I
I
But
I
I
do
also
want
to
say
I
agree
that
it
is
more
important
for
new
people
to
have
that
background
and
I
I
do
personally
see
the
support
of
his
peers
and
the
support
of
our
assessor
as
as
much
more.
P
If
Georgia
nuts
typically
set
forth
in
the
city,
the
city
code.
B
A
I
just
want
to
say,
like
we
didn't
know,
if
you
would
do
this
again,
so
I
think
sometimes
you
need
to
think
like
you're
asking
somebody
to
give
a
lot
of
time-
somebody's
retired,
they
might
just
say
yeah.
You
know
it's
not
worth
it
yeah.
So
we
have
two
reappointments
to
the
planning
board.
We
realize
that
John,
Gunn
and
Kevin
Burns
terms
are
up.
We
also
have
a
third
term
that
is,
we
have
a
third
opening
from
the
resignation
of
JC
Calderon,
who
resigned
back
in
the
fall,
so
we
have.
A
We
have
resumes
for
all
three
of
these
John
Gunn
currently
serves
as
the
chair
Kevin
Byrne
is
on.
David
Jensen
currently
serves
as
the
chair
of
the
zba
and
the
mayor
asked.
If
he
would
consider
moving
to
the
planning
board,
he
did
agree
to
do
that,
which
is
why
you
have
that
last
appointment
to
the
zoning
board
of
appeals,
so
that
that
would
open
up
a
spot
on
the
zba.
A
On
the
zb8,
yes,
so
the
the
current
Deputy
chair
is
Jordan
Hogg
and
he
he's
willing
to
step
up
and
become
the
chair
and
he
he
does
chair
the
meetings.
Now
when
David
is
not
there
and
Drew
you've
worked
with
him
and
had
good
experience,
correct.
P
O
K
P
N
Whether
any
other
applications
considered
for
the
sorry
planning
board
or
submitted
at
even
let
me
just
start
there,
Ben
can.
D
F
H
Submitted
a
few
questions
for
the
planning
board:
correct.
Yes,
yes,
when
we
had
some
openings
come
up
earlier
this
year
and
we
were
starting
to
figure
out
the
plan
going
forward.
We
went
through
all
the
ones
we
had
on
file.
Most
of
them
were
old
I,
don't
think
we
had
any
that
had
been
received
since
I've
been
here
that
were
specifically
for
the
planning
board.
We,
you
know
we
get
applications
every
so
often,
but
you
have
to
check
boxes
for
what
you're
interested
in
serving
on
we've
had
a
number
we've
brought
C4
tree
committee.
H
B
D
So
Mr
Gunn
drew
the
ire
of
the
public
a
couple
months
ago,
making
a
comment
that,
on
the
surface,
seemed
to
not
really
respect
the
Public's
input
on
a
couple
projects
and
also
seem
to
suggest
that
the
planning
board
was
helpless
in
influencing
projects
and
we've
gotten
letters
from
people
about
those
remarks
over
the
last
couple
of
months
Lee.
How
do
you
reconcile
those
comments
with
this?
This
reappointment.
O
So
you
know,
anytime,
that
there's
a
controversial
project
people
will
come
out
and
want
a
specific
answer.
You
know
to
the
extent
that
I
believe
would
occurred.
It
may
be
true,
can
help
me
out
here
to
the
extent
that
any
statements
were
made
regarding
what
legally
could
and
couldn't
occur
was
either
corrected
or
trained.
If
it
wasn't
correct,
I'm,
not
actually
sure.
As
to
the
statements,
maybe
Drew
can
help
me
out
on
that.
P
May
I
was
not
all
present
at
that
meeting,
so
I,
don't
know
the
exact
statements.
I
did
talk
to
Jennifer
Gray,
knowing
that
John
gum
was
on
the
agenda
tonight
as
well
as
some
of
the
other
planning
board
members.
She
speaks
very
highly
of
John
I've.
Also
sat
with
the
planning
board
several
times.
John
is
well
aware
of
the
the
procedures
he's
very
good
at
taking
public
comments.
P
P
B
I
can't
believe
he's
been
on
there
as
long
as
longer
than
I've
been
on
city
council,
but
I
served
with
Doug
Dunn
16
years
ago,
and
he's
been
on
there
ever
since
and
and
having
been
on
the
council
for
13
years
on
the
planning
board
for
two
I
could
say,
the
planning
board
takes
a
great
amount
of
effort
and
we
are
lucky
to
have
this
kind
of
institutional
knowledge.
B
This
kind
of
experience
on
there
and
I
believe
chairing
as
well,
and
it's
difficult
and
you're
you're
on
a
board
for
that
long,
you're
going
to
make
enemies
you're
going
to
lose
your
temper.
Occasionally
you
might
be
maybe
not
the
most
diplomatic,
sometimes
but
I-
think
we're
we're
truly
lucky
to
have
him,
as
as
the
chairman.
E
G
I
think
we
all
have
a
responsibility
to
see
that
those
trainings
take
place
that
Jennifer
Gray
mentioned,
but
you
know
just
if
it
were
any
of
us
or
if
it
were,
you
know
an
actual
employee.
We
would
want
to
see
opportunity
for
growth
and
learning
more
than
just
you
know,
losing
all
of
this
experience.
The
value
of
resumes
I
have
to
say,
John
got
his
resume,
is
I
mean
30
40
years
in
architecture,
and
you
know
ginsler
one
of
the
biggest
architecture
firms
I.
Think
in
the
country
I
mean
he's.
G
You
know,
at
least
on
paper
and
not
saying
nothing
else,
of
the
1am
meetings
and
serving
with
multiple
boards
over
the
years.
It
seems
like
a
lot
to
recommend.
A
And
I
know
from
talking
to
staff
that
our
staff
has
been
stressed
by
the
length
of
the
meetings
and
the
workload
of
these
meetings.
We've
we
had
one
meeting
and
and
I
actually
think
it
might
have
been
the
one
at
which
some
of
these
statements
were
made,
where
there
were
seven
public
hearings
and
that's
an
awful
lot
to
sit
through
they.
They
often
have
gone
past
11
and
in
one
case,
went
to
one
o'clock
in
the
morning.
A
You
know
so
again,
I
think
you
have
you
have
some
great
volunteers
and
they
they've
had
a
lot
on
their
plates
because
not
a
lot
was
happening
during
covet
and
and
there
was
this
backlog.
So
this
this
planning
board
has
had
a
lot
of
work
this
year.
O
Yeah
and
one
of
the
things
we
did
after
that
session,
Chris
and
I
met
just
to
discuss
with
the
the
chair,
how
we
might
kind
of
schedule
the
agenda,
so
we're
not
burning
them
out,
because
it
was,
you
know,
one
of
the
mornings
just
not
sustainable,
especially
for
somewhere.
That
takes
the
train
into
the
city
the
next
morning.
So
we
did
that
and
then
we
also
had
Jennifer.
You
know
do
some
clarifications
as
to
you
know
how,
where
the
purview
of
the
board
is
where
they
have
some
flexibility,
where
they
jump.
A
And
a
lot
of
communities
will
do
two
meetings
a
month
so
but
but
again
that
that's
a
trade-off
like.
Sometimes
people
just
want
to
do
that
one
meeting
a
month
and
be
done
and-
and
there
is
a
lot
to
review
before
they
even
they're-
doing
calls
in
advance.
So.
N
I
want
to
say
that
I
do
really
appreciate
all
of
the
experience
that
I
see
in
this
resume
that's
being
brought
to
the
table.
I.
Also
just
I
I.
Think
it's
important
for
me
to
acknowledge
the
voices
of
my
constituents
and
I've
heard
from
a
lot
of
different
people
in
in
the
gym
in
in
Ward
meetings
on
the
street
in
the
market
at
the
farmers
market
in
key
Foods,
just
very
upset
at
interactions
that
they've
had
with
the
planning,
board
and
I
think
it's.
N
You
know:
I
I,
while
I
I
recognize
this
experience
and
I
really
want
to
State
the
value
in
in
volunteering.
The
time
and
the
long
nights
that
are
being
spent
and
how
exhausting
that
can
be.
I
also
recognize
what
it's
like
to
be
on
that
side
of
the
podium
and
to
to
bring
something
to
a
council
that
you
care
very
deeply
about.
N
That's
acting
your
day-to-day
living
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
as
we
move
forward
with
all
of
these
appointments
and
Boards,
especially
the
planning
board,
which
has
been
a
hot
button
topic
that
we
are
considering
the
needs
of
the
people
in
our
community
right
now-
and
you
know
if
we
are
moving
forward
with
the
same
people
if
there
aren't
any
other
applications
and
that
we
I
don't
know,
we
find
a
way
to
move
forward.
N
That's
not
I,
don't
I,
don't
know
if
I
don't
want
to
say
controversial,
but
you
know
in
a
way
that's
a
little
more.
N
Transparent
for
sure
transparent-
and
you
know,
I
I,
just
I-
want
to
make
sure
that
the
people
that
are
coming
feel
like
they're,
heard
and
I
think
that's
something
that
I've
heard
again
and
again
that
people
feel
like
they're
being
dismissed
and
maybe
that's
just
something
that
can
be
addressed
with
an
individual
or
individuals
on
the
planning
board
and
doesn't
require
any
any
change
of
heads
per
se.
N
But
just
maybe
a
change
in
I,
don't
know
the
way
certain
things
are
approached
and
I
also
recognize
it's
a
two-way
street,
but
then
also
yeah,
just
some
more
transparency
in
how
these
appointments
happen
and
what
other
applications
are
added.
But
I
appreciate
you
Ben
and
Chris
telling
us
that
these
these
were
the
only
applications
and
put
it
and
again.
N
I
do
really
appreciate
the
volunteer
hours
that
are
put
into
the
planning
board
because
I
know
I
couldn't
do
it,
but
yeah
I
just
want
to
really
be
mindful
and
take
into
consideration
what
people
have
been
saying
and
figure
out
how
to
make
sure
people
feel
like
they're,
being
hurt.
A
I'm
I'm,
confident
that
mayor
and
I
can
have
another
conversation
with
the
chair
about
that.
K
The
only
thing
that
I
will
add
in
an
agreement
to
what
Justice
and
others
have
shared
is
that
I
know
Paloma
a
meeting
or
two
ago
brought
up
the
idea
of
of
some
of
the
trainings
that
are
at
the
city
council,
actually
a
chance
to
talk
with
with
Pete
about
ways.
We
can
tag
them
in
YouTube,
because
I
think
in
the
planning
board
meetings
that
I've
watched.
One
of
the
things.
That's
true
is
that
part
of
what
the
public
seems
to
be
experiencing
is
that
it's
a
very
technical
process
that
they
know.
K
There's
this
thing
in
their
neighborhood.
They
have
the
questions
and
concerns
about,
but
how
best
to
insert
themselves
like
the
difference
between
a
secret
hearing
and
a
public
hearing,
I
can
understand.
It
must
drive
John
Gunn
up
a
wall,
that
people
are
saying
things
at
one
meeting.
They
should
be
saying
in
another
or
another
public
hearing
but
like
but
the
reality
people
don't
know,
and
so
I'm
just
wondering.
If
there's
ways
we
can
invite
people
into
this
space.
K
So
they
know
where
to
best
put
their
stuff
so
that
that
level
of
frustration
with
these
long
meetings
doesn't
kind
of
Ratchet
up.
So
so
I
appreciate,
Chris,
you
and
and
Lee
kind
of
working
with
John
Gunn
and
the
rest
of
the
planning
board
about
ways.
We
can
structure
the
board
and
then
also
maybe
making
some
of
these
trainings
available
so
that
everyone
involved,
even
if
they
have
different
ideas
and
opinions.
That
doesn't
just
add,
on
top
of
the
stress.
A
And
I've
spoken
to
the
building
inspector
about
doing
what
we
said
and
kind
of
taking
the
videos
extracting
those
out
of
the
main
meeting
and
then
putting
them
with
a
with
titles
so
that
you
can
easily
access
like.
Okay,
here's
a
here's,
secret,
101
or
here's.
How
how
we
do
subdivisions
so
we're
trying
to
make
those
more
accessible.
It's
going
to
take
a
little
bit
of
time,
because
we
we
do
need
Pete
to
extract.
K
Move
towards
great
no
I
appreciate
you
doing
that,
because
I
think
sometimes
as
a
member
of
the
public.
If
that's
not
available,
you
can
feel
like
something's
being
hidden
from
you,
because
these
are
such
expensive
large
projects,
so
the
more
we
can
make
it
to
use.
Paloma's
words
is
transparent
as
possible.
The
more
we
can
help
bridge
that
that
divide
that
currently
exists.
O
Yeah
and
it's
it's
such
a
difficult
area,
I
mean
as
a
as
a
councilman
I
did
a
couple
of
selling
one-on-one
sessions
over
at
the
Beehive
just
to
help
people
understand
how
zoning
works,
and
you
know
we
were
working
on
some
zoning
changes,
but
that
this
the
planning
words
in
some
respects
harder,
because
you
know
the
council
sets
the
zoning,
not
the
planning
board
and
then
from
that
the
planning
board
has
certain
powers,
but
then
also
not
others
and
that's
oftentimes
kind
of
hard
to
explain,
which
kind
of
makes
it
Arcane.
O
One
of
the
things
I
could
hear
is
is
when
you're
there's
a
difficult
one
and
sometimes
hard
to
know
up
front,
maybe
Jennifer,
whatever
legal
support
that
we
have
there
can
kind
of
take
through.
You
know,
here's
what
the
zoning
says
here
are
the
areas
that
the
planningware
can
focus
on,
or
here's
what
the
secret
hearing
can
focus
on
here's.
O
What
this
piece
does
in
terms
of
site
plan,
but
something
like
that,
because
you
know
people
don't
have
a
perspective
as
to
you
know,
what
is
it
that
I'm
supposed
to
focus
on
if
I'm,
Pro
or
against
something?
Once
within
the
powers
you
know
to
to
move,
you
know
and
what
some
some
stuff
that
isn't,
because
it's
part
of
the
zoning
law
as
opposed
to
what
the
planning
board
is.
O
Yeah,
let
us
talk
to
Jennifer
I,
think,
that's
a
good
one
and
happy
to
have
a
conversation
with
John
about
you
know.
How
do
we
kind
of
engage
the
public
a
little
bit?
I
know
they
do
trainings.
You
know
on
that
half
hour
beforehand.
Maybe
we
invite
the
public
but
I'm
happy
to
work
on
that,
because
you
know
we
don't
want
to
have
a
tough
planning
board
process.
You
know
not
for
the
community
and
not
for
the
board,
because
it's
hard
on
them.
O
So,
let's
you
know,
we've
had
that
conversation
with
the
chair
with
Jennifer.
Let's
keep
working
on
that
because
I
I
think
that
will
be
a
positive
outcome
for
everyone.
I
F
A
And
Ben
has
almost
a
complete
list
at
this
point.
The
what
we're
missing
in
some
cases
is
the
date.
We
don't
have
the
date
of
appointment.
No
one
recorded
what
the
term
was
in
some
like
almost
half
of
the
CAC
is
expired,
including
the
chair,
oops
Yeah,
so
we're
we're
going
to
try
to
get
ahead
of
this
again.
Now
that
we
have
been.
I
Because
I
think
part
of
this,
the
transparency
and
and
the
perhaps
potential
lack
of
applications
is,
is
one
that
the
job
is
incredibly
difficult
and
it's
all
volunteer,
but
also
when
I
talk
to
people,
they
don't
always
know
sort
of.
What's
Happening,
which
vacancies
are
what
the
qualifications
are.
These
resumes
are
very
helpful
and
a
Next
Level
I
think
that
would
be
really
helpful,
is
a
list
of
what
what
it
is
that
we're
looking
for
in
each
of
these
positions.
I
You
know
I,
don't
want
to
be
too
greedy
and
we
want
to
get
people
who
will
just
do
it
on
a
certain
level
like
we
are
like
you've
mentioned.
We
are
asking
people
to
do
it
because
no
one's
coming
to
us,
but
I
still
think
there
are
ways
that
we
can
make
the
application
process
a
little
more
clear
and
a
little
more
accessible.
F
K
Might
not
be
helpful
right
now,
but
I
believe
the
current
application.
You
it's
hard
copy
and
I'm
wondering
if,
if
maybe
next
year
the
year
after
can
make
it
an
online
application.
So
you
can
like
fill
it
in
like
a
Google
form
or
whatever
is
the
appropriate
form,
because
I
applied
for
one
a
year
ago
and
I
think
I
had
to
like
print
something
out
and
fill
it
in.
F
K
Oh,
but
it's
not
like
a
Google
survey,
thing
yeah,
so
for
some
people
that
might
be
less
accessible,
I
appreciate.
We
still
want
the
hard
copy
for
those
who
prefer
that,
but
that
might
be
something
that
people
feel
they
can
fill.
H
You
can
fill
it
out
on
a
digital
copy
online,
a
lot
of
them
that
I've
received
have
been
by
email.
We've
gotten
a
couple
dropped
off
at
the
window,
but
for
the
most
part,
people
will
email
them
to
me
and
I
believe.
Don't
vote
me
for
sure
on
this,
but
I
believe
the
form
itself
has
the
email
where
you
can
send
it
to
on
it.
H
K
Yeah,
this
is
not
a
like
top
priority,
but
I,
it
would
be.
You
know,
I
think
again,
it's
we
want
people
to
it
to
be
as
accessible
as
possible
and
then
like
and
then
it
might
be
easier
to
add
what
Paloma
was
saying
if
there
are
specific
skills
that
we
were
thinking
of,
or
that
we
kind
of
describe
the
position
yeah
build
that
out
over
time.
You.
D
Know
and
when
we
you
know,
we
had
a,
we
had
a
PowerPoint
presentation
late
spring
early
summer
was
it
I
was
just
looking
for
it.
I
couldn't
find
it.
It
was
a
presentation
by
Ben
of
all
the
Committees
and
all
the
vacancies,
and
there
weren't
many
at
the
time,
except
for
the
HRC
if
I
recall,
but
you
know
we
don't
when
we
want
an
update
on
that
I,
don't
think
we
need
to
have
a
big
presentation.
D
D
So
we
could
just
do
some
go
back
to
something
like
that.
Instead
of
doing
big,
you
know,
presentations,
yeah,.
A
And
I
I,
don't
think
they're,
mutually
exclusive
I
think
we
did
the
presentation
too
a
to
get
our
minds
around
what
the
status
of
each
committee
was
and
then
it
kind
of
gave
you
a
context
like
there's
different
tranches
of
of
these
committees.
You
have
some
that
are
set
up
by
code
and
and
or
or
general
Municipal
law,
and
then
you
have
others
that
are
ad
hoc,
so
we're
trying
to
give
a
sense
kind
of
the
context
of
it
as
well,
but
it
I
think
we
have
a
pretty
complete
list.
A
F
A
Them
yes,
Services
the
city,
one
of
one
of
the
major
expenses
the
city
undertakes
each
year
is
to
ensure
all
of
the
buildings
Vehicles
equipment
that
we
have
and
also
to
cover
our
own
liability.
We
have
a
number
of
lawsuits
every
year
of
everything,
from
people
tripping
and
falling
to
on
sidewalks
that
we
don't
have
responsibility
for
to
traffic
accidents
that
you
know
Were
Somehow,
deemed
to
be
at
risk
at
fault
about
we
have
been
in
the
nimer
program.
Nimer
is
stands
for
New
York,
Municipal,
Insurance,
reciprocal,
it's
a
non-profit
insurance.
A
Basically
like
a
Cooperative
of
governments,
they
got
to
got
together
to
aggregate
the
insurance
needs
of
municipalities
around
New
York
state
so
that
they
could
get
better
prices.
The
broker
for
nine
were
in
this
region
is
Brown
and
Brown,
which
some
of
you
who
are
on
the
council
for
years
knew
as
the
spleen
agency
or
Spain
agency,
so
they
they're
retitled
on
this
year's
premium
goes
up
about
eight
percent
and,
as
as
you
can
see
on
the
premiums,
one
of
the
main
drivers
of
that
is
cyber
security.
A
The
number
in
here
is
a
kind
of
not
to
exceed
and
I'm
still
having
nine
I'm,
having
Brown
and
Brown
evaluate
other
options
for
cyber
security
that
might
be
less
expensive
and
we're
working
with
our
I.T
consultant
to
see
what
exactly
he
he
deems
as
being
our
our
risk
and
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
right
size
that
again,
this
this
goes
through
property.
A
Behind
this
premium
is
a
list
of
all
of
our
buildings,
all
of
our
infrastructure,
like
our
pipes,
our
tanks,
you
know
water
tanks,
dams
every
every
facility
that
we
own
and
a
list
of
all
vehicles.
So
we
don't
typically
put
that
out
publicly
because
I
some
of
that
infrastructure,
I
I,
don't
want
to
necessarily
identify
where
everything
is,
and
we
were
advised
by
the
attorney
not
not
to
do
that.
So
this
year
we're
we're
going
to
be
going
up
a
little
bit.
A
We
have
budgeted
for
it,
you'll
see
in
the
budget
amendments.
We
actually
had
an
increase
last
year
too,
that
we're
going
to
have
to
backfill
so
I'm
trying
to
get
these
in
in
December.
We
had
typically
done
them
later
and
then
you
know
they
gave
us
like
an
extension
of
the
policy.
So
that's
why
I'm
trying
to
bring
this
at
the
end
of
the
year
to
get
have
it
in
place
for
January
1.?
It's
a
one-year
policy.
We
get
good
service
from
them.
A
So
when
I'm
looking
for
insurance
certificates
or
if
I
have
a
contract
and
I'm
wondering
if
our
insurance
requirements
are
sufficient,
I
Brown
and
Brown
helps
me
with
that.
They
also
provide
us
risk
management,
Inspection
Services,
so
they
went
through
our
facilities.
They
gave
us
recommendations.
They
looked
at
some
of
our
processes.
They
work
with
our
HR
and
making
sure
that
we
have
training
materials.
K
Chris
I
am
curious,
I,
don't
know
if
you'll
be
able
to
answer
this
by
our
next
meeting
about
cyber.
It
sounds
like
you're
having
our
I.T
person
look
into
it
about
why
it
went
up
so
much
I
was
wondering,
even
though
we
didn't
start
doing
this
last
year,
if
it's
related
to
the
fact
that
we
started
allowing
online
payments
and
there's
something
about
storing
credit
card
numbers.
A
No,
it
I
do
know
why
it
went
up
I,
just
I,
I,
don't
know
what
my
alternatives
are.
Essentially
what
we
had
through
nimer
was
they
describe
it
as
a
light
blanket
it
didn't.
It
didn't
really
give
a
ton
of
coverage
based
on
some
of
the
ransomware
and
the
other
intrusions
that
they've
seen
for
government
entities.
They
they
they're,
proposing
that
we
go
up
to
a
higher
level
so
that
when
there
is,
you
know
a
ransomware
attack
or
or
some
other
intrusion
into
our
system.
K
N
That
would
be
great
I'll.
Try
to
get
that
I,
don't
know
any
municipalities
off
of
my
hand
per
se,
but
as
far
as
like
government
entities
ago,
I
think
I
I
might
be
wrong,
but
the
Schenectady
Library
or
a
library.
There
was
a
public
library
that
got
hit
by
ransomware
and
it
was
really
bad
and
that
was
about
a
year
or
so
ago
and
I've
seen
attacks
happening
frequently.
I
mean
just
for
the
Public's
sake.
N
I
work
at
a
public
library
outside
of
city
council
and
we've
seen
ransomware
attacks
just
through
our
book
distributors
as
well,
and
it's
it's
happening
quite
frequently
quite
often,
and
it
can
be
very
damaging
so
I
think
this.
It
is
good
to
invest
and
be
prepared.
A
And
they
what
they
told
me
is
they
have
these
breach
Coches.
So
if
you
have
a
breach
of
your
data,
they
they
can
work
with
you
to
recover
it.
To
protect
other
pieces
of
your
system,
I
need
to
talk
to
RIT
guy
more
about
how
much
he
has
backed
up
already
and
then
we
can
make
a
calculation
to
maybe
have
a
lower
cost
insurance
policy
because
we
have
a
higher
deductible.
Q
A
So
the
the
next
contract
is
a
contract
with
wsp
USA,
which
is
an
engineering
consultant.
This
is
for
the
Fishkill
Avenue
teller
Avenue
rehabilitation
project.
This
is
a
project
that
started
back
in
2001.
A
and
we
are
looking
forward
to
getting
it
out
to
bid
in
January.
We
are
fully
designed.
We
are
fully
approved
by
dot
Fishkill
Avenue.
The
funding
has
been
approved
and
that's
over
eight
million
dollars
in
funding
I'm.
Sorry
that
piece
of
it
is
six
million
the
teller
Avenue
piece,
because
we
got
additional
money
from
the
state
they
needed.
We
put
money
from
teller
Avenue
into
Fishkill
Avenue
in
the
last
Federal
fiscal
year,
which
ended
on
September
30th,
then
for
the
new
federal
fiscal
year,
which
started
October
1,
the
Dutchess,
County
transportation.
A
F
A
January
with
the
hope
of
starting
construction
in
late
March
or
April,
the
the
duration
of
the
construction
is
probably
going
to
be
around
18
months.
It's
a
lot
of
work
and
the
the
cost
of
the
construction
inspection
is
partially
a
function
of
how
long
it
goes
and
when
you
do
these
dot
projects
that
are
funded
by
state
and
federal
money,
and
this
project
again
is
95
percent
federal
and
state.
They
require
you
to
have
a
full-time
construction
inspector
on
site,
making
sure
that
the
work's
being
done
to
the
dot
standard.
A
So
there's
a
proposal
here
from
wsp
which
designed
the
project
and
has
worked
on
it
for
a
long
time
for
one
million
four
hundred
forty
nine
thousand
seven
hundred
forty
six
dollars
on
and
I'd
like
to
get
that
in
place,
because
when
we
go
to
bid
there
are
questions
that
inevitably
come
up
from
prospective
bidders
about
interpretations
of
the
plans
and
I
want
to
have
them
on
we're.
We've
basically
expended
all
of
the
money
from
the
design
contract
so
to
have
some
bid.
Support
Services
too,
that's
been
included
in
that
contract.
K
Sorry
Chris
before
we
move
on,
for
that
is,
would
wsp
also
be
responsible
or
have
they
already
put
together?
What
the
plan
is
in
terms
of
how
traffic
will
be
managed
like?
Are
they
doing
one
section?
First
then
another?
Will
it
all
be
closed
down,
or
is
that
something
that's
not
decided
until
later
by
another?
One
of
these
contractors.
A
Yeah,
it's
the
it's
the
latter,
so
one
once
we
put
this
out
to
bid
we'll
have
pre-construction
meetings
with
the
firm
that
we
end
up,
hiring
they'll
talk
out
with
the
city
and
our
Representatives
at
wsp
how
they,
how
they
view
the
the
project
progressing.
Some
of
it
may
depend
on
utility
relocations.
We've
been
meeting
in
the
field
with
Verizon
altice
crown
castle,
two
other
smaller
cable
companies
that
have
wires
on
some
of
these
poles
that
need
to
be
moved.
A
So,
whether
or
not
they
get
moved
may
depend
on
which
end
we
begin
on
and
how
we
Face
the
project
as
part
of
the
the
job
the
contractor
has
to
maintain
at
least
one
lane
open,
and
they
have
to
do
all
traffic
control,
so
they're
responsible
for
that.
But
they
they'll
come
up
with
a
schedule
then,
and
they'll
come
up
the
their
means
and
methods
they
they
figure
out,
but
they
have
to
have
the
project
done
by
November
of
2024.
A
It
includes
sewer
work
too,
which
I
think
is
going
to
add
a
little
bit
of
a
little
bit
extra
time
too,
because
we've
been
having
trouble
ordering
parts
when
we've
been
doing
that
so
the
next.
The
next
one
is
related
to
The
Beacon
fire
station
Rehabilitation.
A
We
found
that
there
were
asbestos
containing
materials,
I'm,
sorry
Lee
were
you
trying
to
okay
there
we
found
that
there
are
asbestos
containing
materials
in
the
building
that
need
to
be
removed.
We
did
a
bid.
We
had
a
great
bid
response.
We
had
eight
vendors
bid
on
this
project.
The
low
bid
was
from
united
safety
LLC
for
132
200.
A
We
had
two
bids
that
were
just
a
few
thousand
dollars
above
that,
so
we
we
had
a
competitive
price
I
think
it
came
under
budget
from
we
had
initially
put
in
a
hundred
and
sixty
thousand
dollars
in
the
budget
and
I
think.
The
reason
that
we
we
came
in
under
is
initially
we
thought.
We'd
still
have
the
fire
department
operating
at
a
part
of
the
building,
and
we
decided
at
a
point
that
that
probably
wasn't
wise
and
we're
clearing
the
building.
A
So
this
is
great.
This
work
will
start
in
January
and
then
we
are
aiming
to
bid
the
Reconstruction
of
the
firehouse
on
January
31st,
so
we're
we're
hopefully
going
to
be
in
the
ground
working
by
April.
A
Right
there
we
didn't
have
it
in
the
paint
we
there.
There
are
some
in
some
of
the
plumbing
fittings
that
could
be
happening
because
I
know
we
have.
We
have
them
opening
some
of
the
walls
to
investigate
further,
and
then
we
have
like
a
unit
price
when
they
remove
some
of
those
lead
fittings.
A
A
We
have
a
series
of
five
amendments,
all
of
which
are
to
the
general
fund
and
I'll
walk
through
these.
We
are
going
to
have
probably
one
last
round
of
amendments
in
January
to
close
the
books,
so
the
first
one
of
these
is
for
police
overtime.
It's
transferring
63
000
to
overtime
from
the
regular
salary
lines.
We've
talked
about
this
more
than
a
few
times.
A
I
Sorry
one
thing
I
thought
we
hired
four
police
officers
this
year.
It
was
one
of
them,
a
detective.
A
I
think
you
did
a
promotion
and
then
you
did
three
hires,
so
we
did
Jonathan
Underwood,
Nick
and
Savino
and
then
Jerome,
Burton,
right
and
then
I
think
I
think
the
last
hire
before
that
was
in.
A
A
A
Well,
the
top
three
of
the
top.
Often
you
go
down
through
scores
so
like
you
could
have
40
people
that
got
a
hundred,
and
so
you
would
take
all
the
hundreds
and
then
you
would
go
to
the
95s
and
you
might
have
35.95s.
A
So
you
work
your
way
down
and
often
what
we
do
when
we
canvas
is
we'll
try
to
figure
out
how
many
do
we
have
to
actually
canvas
down
to
just
because
you
canvasm
doesn't
mean
you
have
to
hire
them
and
then
what
we'll
see
is
how
many
of
the
hundred
you
know.
People
have
already
been
hiring
off
this
list,
so
you'll
find
a
lot
of
them
may
have
already
been
hired
by
other
departments.
A
Yeah
yeah,
so
we're
going
to
work
the
list
as
quickly
as
we
can.
The
second
item
is
also
in
the
police
budget.
It's
crossing
guards.
You
may
remember.
Last
year
we
had
an
issue
where
we
had
almost
half
of
our
postings
unfilled.
We
were
not
paying
very
much.
We
were
paying
15
an
hour.
I
raised
the
pay
to
twenty
dollars
an
hour.
If
you
work
both
shifts
you
get
20
in
the
morning
and
20
in
the
afternoon.
If
you
just
do,
we
were
having
trouble
with
the
afternoon
shift.
A
So
if
you
just
work
the
morning,
then
you
get
18,
but
it's
helped
us
fill
all
of
these
positions.
We
we
did
just
lose
somebody,
so
we
may
be
backfilling,
but
we're
doing
a
lot
better
than
last
year,
but
there
was
a
little
bit
of
an
extra
cost
to
that
and
again
I
I
think
we
saved
that
money
on
Highway
and
police
overtime
because
we
had
to
backfill
it
with
mostly
Highway
workers
when
we
didn't
have
people
showing
up,
particularly
for
the
afternoon.
D
So
if
a
if
a
crossing
guard
calls
in
sick,
the
highway
department
fills
in
for
them
well,.
A
That
was
what
was
happening
now.
We
actually
have
some
substitutes
to
fill
in.
So
we'll
try
the
the
two
or
three
alternate
alternates
that
we
have.
Then
the
next
would
be
Highway,
and
if
we
don't
get
anybody
from
Highway,
then
we
would
go
to
police,
but
we've
gotten.
We've
we've
not
had
to
go
to
police
for
a
long
time.
On
this.
F
A
The
third
budget
amendment
is
a
Amendment
to
the
highway
budget.
You,
you
recall,
we
did
a
lot
of
Paving
this
year.
We
did
almost
twice
the
number
of
streets
that
we
usually
do,
and
we
also
had
some
of
our
seasonal
help
stay
longer
to
help
with
some
projects.
So
this
would
transfer
14
661
dollars
to
that
temporary
position
and
the
overtime
for
the
milling
and
Paving
coming
from
regular,
regular
salaries.
A
This
comes
from
one
of
our
workers,
who's
been
in
workers
comp
all
year,
so
workers
comp
then
picks
up
that
person's
salary,
and
we
had
that
budget
line
available.
A
The
fourth
one
we
have
is
also
the
highway.
This
base
it's
Highway
and
building
building
department.
We
had
two
retirements
recently
and
these
are
payouts
for
the
building
inspector
and
an
hmeo
who
retired
and
the
hmeo
retired
in
July
building
inspector
retired
in
October.
A
A
I
mean
it
is
because
when
we
introduced
the
when
we
introduce
the
budget
in
October,
we
haven't
even
received
the
renewal
notification
from
from
the
company.
I
got
that
probably
in
mid-november
this
year,
and
then
we
had
to
go
through
all
the
schedules
make
sure
that
some
of
the
vehicles
that
we
got
rid
of
were
deleted.
Some
of
the
things
we
acquired
were
on
and-
and
it
takes
a
little
bit
of
back
and
forth
so
so
again,
I
think
we
we've
seen
an
escalation
in
Insurance.
K
Just
to
go
back
to
item
number
three
for
a
moment,
I
I
believe
that
on
our
budget
for
2023
there's
also
some
milling
and
Paving
of
roads,
I
didn't
know
if
the
standard
is
that
does
include
the
salaries
of
those
who
are
doing
it.
It
just
happened
to
be
that
this
one
evolved
over
time
or
is
that
something
it
would
need
to
be
adjusted.
The.
K
A
Next
year,
so
the
way
that
we
do
milling
and
Paving
is
we
use
chips,
money
which
is
State
money
for
redoing
roads,
the
we're
going
to
be
putting
that
into
the
capital
program
and
I
think
we
did
last
year
for
400
000,
which
is
you
know,
kind
of
a
general
estimate
where
we
think
we're
going
to
hit
every
year.
We
that
covers
the
contract
work
so
that
cover
is
bringing
in
an
outside
party
to
do
the
Milling,
because
we
don't
have
the
machine.
A
It's
it's
a
very
expensive
like
one
and
a
half
million
dollar
machine
or
1.2
million
dollar
machine,
and
then
we
pay
another
contractor
to
come
and
pave,
and
both
of
those
are
Bid
so
that
the
expenditures
are
are
those
contract
things
and
usually
we
don't.
We
we
just
absorb
into
the
regular
salaries
of
our
staff.
The
support
work
that
they
do
in
preparing
all
of
the
structures
in
the
street
doing
the
hand
work
behind
them.
Coordinating
in
this
case,
we
just
had
extra
overtime
that
we
normally
wouldn't
have,
because
we
had
so
many
streets.
A
A
I
just
want
to
confirm
that.
That's
the
same
that
we
had
in
the
line
on
the
budget
because
the
but
it's
it
should
be
so
our
number
nine.
F
A
Have
those
five
amendments
we
would
put
them
all
together
in
one
resolution
for
next
week
and
and
then
we'll
probably
have
a
cleanup
Amendment,
some
at
some
point
in
mid
to
late
January.
A
Then
yeah,
so
a
couple
of
you
have
asked
for
the
schedule
so
that
you
can
try
to
plan
travel.
We
then
put
together
an
actual
calendar
this
year,
which
is
nice
I.
A
Other
was
very
difficult
to
read,
and
so
our
first
meeting
of
January
January
has
five
Mondays,
so
we
had
a
kind
of
choice
of
whether
we
could
do
it
on
right
after
New
Year's
and
what
we
thought
is
to
do.
The
ninth
sixth,
the
9th,
the
17th,
the
23rd
to
the
30th.
D
I'd
like
to
just
make
a
comment
about
the
summer
months,
the
last
couple
years,
I've
I
voiced
my
opposition
to
combining
the
city
council,
Workshop
meeting
and
the
regular
meetings
on
account
that
this
is
the
people's
business,
not
ours,
and
when
you
combine
meetings,
unless
we
want
to
have
meetings
like
the
planning
board,
our
meetings
will
inevitably
be
shorter.
I
was
reassured
last
year
that
combining
the
workshops
and
the
regular
meetings
would
actually
just
be
the
full
length
of
a
combined
Workshop.
In
a
meeting
we
actually
had
one
meeting
last
July
I
think
it
was.
D
D
I
just
want
to
say
that
I,
don't
agree
with
this
calendar
and
I'd
like
to
have
a
discussion
about
the
summer
months.
I
mean
I
like
to
have
weeks
off
too,
but
this
isn't
about
us.
This
is
about
the
people's
business
and,
if
you
ask
me,
we
should
be
doing
more,
not
less
meetings,
I
mean
we
should
be
doing
more
work,
not
less
than
anybody
else
share
that
sentiment
or
have
a
different,
View
or
willing
to
have
the
discussion.
I.
B
D
If
we
had
a
meeting
that
was
less
than
an
hour
and
it
was
a
workshop
and
a
regular
meeting
that
would
be
two
meetings
that
would
have
been
less
than
a
half
hour,
which
I've
never
seen
before
so
I'm.
Pretty
sure
that,
because,
when
we're
combining
the
meetings,
we're
actually
trying
to
keep
the
meetings
within
a
manageable
amount
of
time,.
B
A
If,
if
I
could
I,
this
is
firstly
just
a
proposal
we
Ben
and
I,
and
the
mayor
talked
about
and
and
the
attorneys
talked
about,
adding
June
and
we
we
thought
that
that
would
make
sense
for
us
there's
kind
of
an
Edmund
flow
of
what
goes
on
your
agenda,
like
we
have
a
whole
flurry
at
the
beginning
of
the
year,
because
you're
starting
we,
we
have
a
really
intense
time,
often
around
the
capital
program,
which
comes
out
in
May.
A
Again
then
after
the
summer
is
over
we're
preparing
for
budget,
and
that
becomes,
you
know
again
that
takes
three
or
four
meetings.
Just
on
its
own
I
I
would
say.
Last
summer
was
really
helpful
to
us
advancing
projects.
There's
there's
a
lot
of
time
that
goes
into
just
getting
ready
for
a
meeting
executing
the
meeting
and
and
again
I.
Don't
think
we
did
any
less
I
mean
we
did
a
lot
of
work
last
year
you
you
did
a
lot
of
legislating.
A
You
did
a
lot
of
projects
and
again
I
heard
good
feedback
from
other
members
of
the
council
that
they
thought
that
that
was
a
good
system.
So
again
you
don't
have
to
do
you.
You
can
decide
to
do
whatever
you
want,
but
understand
that
the
people's
business
happens
every
day
here.
I
mean
we're
you
you
guys
call
me.
You
email
me
about
things.
We
have
projects
we're
working
on.
You
have
a
list
of
things
you
want
us
to
do.
A
We
got
a
lot
of
those
done
last
year
during
these
two
months,
because
we
weren't
on
the
treadmill
of
running
every
week.
The
other.
The
other
thing
to
consider
is
your
code
does
not
require
you
to
do
workshops
at
all
you're
required
by
your
code
to
do
two
voting
meetings
a
month
and
then
you're
allowed
to
do
workshops,
so
that
convention
is
is
not
statutory
or
code
driven.
D
No,
maybe
not,
but
it
still
seems
like
the
right
thing
to
do.
If
we
don't,
if
we
get,
if
we
are
focused
on
budget
from
September
onwards
in
the
beginning
of
the
year,
is
we're
we're
focusing
on
the
on
the
setup
stuff.
It
seems
that
half
of
the
critical
months
where
we
can
introduce
new
ideas,
those
the
number
of
meetings
is
being
reduced
during
that
period.
D
I
don't
want
to
be
a
wet
blanket
if
everybody
else
wants
the
weeks
off,
but
I'm
I
I
mean
I.
Always
I
have
I,
have
a
mountain
of
ideas
that
I'd
love
to
propose
and
then
I
see
that
our
calendar
is
being
reduced.
I'm
sure
you
guys
have
ideas
too
I
mean
there's
no
shortage
of
legislation.
We
could
be
discussing
and
topics.
N
Might
be
addressing
I
mean
I'll,
just
say
that
I
want
to
I
I
feel
two
ways
about
this.
I
mean
one
I
want
to
make
sure
that
the
way
the
work
that
we're
doing
as
accountable
and
How
We
Gather
is
also
sustainable
to
the
people
behind
the
scenes
in
the
city,
but
at
the
same
time
I
don't
want
to
make
the
public
feel
like
we're,
shorting
them
on
opportunities.
N
I,
don't
know
how
I
feel
about
adding
the
extra
month
of
June
to
the
lightened
calendar,
but
I
I.
Think
I
would
like
to
also
see
the
summer
as
an
opportunity
to
maybe
host,
as
as
just
like,
individual
council
members,
like
more
public
forums
and
more
ways
to
like
take
advantage
of
the
warmer
weather
to
meet
on
the
ground
with
our
constituents
and
talk
to
than
one-on-one
I
mean
I,
see
that
as
an
opportunity
for
that
but
I.
K
Sort
of
related
to
that
idea,
I
wonder
if,
in
those
off
weeks,
if
there
are
topics
we
have,
if
there's
a
way
and
and
Chris
and
Ben
I
would
love
your
input
here
to
like
have
you
know,
we
have
a
topic,
because
one
of
our
challenges
is
that
we
can't
just.
We
can't
discuss
off
more
than
three
of
us,
because
that
violates
Quorum.
K
But
if
we
had
an
opportunity
to
have
a
conversation,
but
it
might
require
less
work
on
the
city's
end,
Maybe,
not
maybe
I'm,
making
that
maybe
I'm
just
like
describing
a
workshop
Molly
but
I
I
I
could
see
value
in
that
I'm.
Also,
very
aware
that
that
you
know
the
elections
are
going
to
be
coming
up
next
year
and
the
summer
is
usually
a
busy
time
for
stuff
around
that,
whether
we
ourselves
are
running
or
supporting
others
locally.
K
So
I
am
sort
of
conscious
of
how
many
hours
I
have
to
give
to
this
work.
Generally,
so
I
would
say
I'm
I'm
open
to
their
being,
because
I
don't
know
the
technical
thing
of
this
open
to
there
being
the
option
of
having
meetings
on
our
dead
weeks.
If
there
were
like
particular
things
we
wanted
to
discuss,
and
that
seemed
like
a
good
time
for
us
to
kind
of
hash
through
them,
the
way
we've
had
some
really
productive
workshops
recently,
I
also.
K
P
Christopher,
if
I
may
just
speak
to
Molly's
Point
at
any
time,
you
can
always
call
special
meeting.
So
if
the
city
council
adopts
this
calendar,
it
doesn't
prohibit
you
from
adding
meetings
at
any
time.
So
you
know
we
just
have
to
meet
the
necessary
notice
requirements,
but
you
can
always
decide
to
have
an
additional
meeting
if
you
think
it's
appropriate.
D
D
I,
just
don't
really
understand
the
value
of
having
two
of
combining
meetings
in
June
I.
Just
don't
I
don't
see
it
I
mean.
Presumably
you
know
anybody
with
a
primary
would
have
an
election
in
June.
But
that's
that's
what's
hard
about
this
work
and
we
we
have
to
roll
with
it.
I
don't
think
I
should
have
time
off
in
June.
If
I
of
a
primary
I,
don't
I,
don't
know
I,
just
don't
see
it
that
way.
Yeah.
O
I
think
I
think
if
we
kind
of
hold
what
other
communities
do
I
think
what
we
would
find
is
that
we
have
more
meetings
than
others.
I
think
that's
what's
causing
this
and
I.
Certainly
you
know,
am
very
sensitive
to
staff
time.
I'm
I
feel,
like
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
Burden
there,
but
we
can
do
some
checks.
Why,
Don't
We,
compare
what
other
communities
do.
Would
that
be
helpful.
G
F
D
I,
don't
know
I
mean
I,
thought
I.
Thought
capacity
wasn't
going
to
be
an
issue
this
coming
year
because
we
talked
about
it
during
the
budget.
We
agreed
not
to
add
capacity
during
the
budget,
so
I,
don't
I,
don't
really
understand
where
staff
hours
is
coming
in
because
we
agreed
that
more
capacity
wasn't
needed
at
the
time.
A
Dan
I
think
you
have
to
keep
in
mind
like
every
every
organization,
including
your
household,
has
a
capacity
like
you
can
give
me
as
much
money
as
you
want,
but
I
have
a
building
that
only
has
so
many
seats.
I
have
a
staff
that
has
only
so
many
people
that
manage
I
mean
we
have
these
major
projects
going
this
year.
So
yeah,
you
know
I'm
the
one
who
suggested
doing
June,
because
a
I
don't
think
you'd
lose
a
lot.
Basically,
what
your
meeting
becomes
is
your
Workshop.
A
The
voting
part
of
this
is
often
really
quick
right,
like
our
our
voting
meetings,
unless
you're
having
some
kind
of
public
hearing
or
often
like
about
an
hour,
so
we
thought
we
could
put
it
together.
That's
the
peak
time
for
my
staff
and
I
on
these
projects
and
and
again
I've
we've
got
the
firehouse.
We've
got
I'm
not
going
to
apologize
for
saying
we
have
limits
on
our
capacity.
Everybody's
got
that
and
you
have
to
make
choices,
and
you
have
to
prioritize.
G
I
I
think
in
my
mind,
I'm
happy
to
meet
every
Monday,
but
I
want
to
balance
that
with
what
is
capacity
for
our
Administration
and
our
workers
and
I,
my
inclination
is,
is
to
defer
to
Eucharist,
about
which
months
are
most
critical
to
have
that
Interruption
flow.
But
I
would
like
to
limit
it
this
time
around
to
two
months,
whether
that
is
June
and
July
or
July
and
August
or
July
and
half
of
June
or
half
of
August
or
if
that
is
sort
of
like
we've
done
in
December
sort
of
peppering.
K
I
I
would
Define
as
it
is
to
start
and
also
find
to
add
more
and
I,
especially
like
your
idea,
Paloma
of
adding
maybe
adding
one
more
to
June,
it's
not
the
full
month.
You
know
I
I
Chris.
If
you
can
I
know
you
made
this
proposal.
If
there's
something
you
know,
we
don't
have
to
vote
on
this
now.
Maybe
we
do
Drew
can
let
us.
A
Decide
if,
if
you
don't
want
to
do
june,
that's
fine
I
mean
it
was
a
proposal.
You
know
and
again
I
think
if
you
look
at
I,
just
looked
at
two
city
of
Beacon
meets
twice
a
month
and
City
Kingston
meets
once
a
month
City
in
Newburgh
twice
a
month.
So.
G
F
G
K
Oh
July
I
saw
that
we're
meeting
the
third
and
the
17th
and
then
from
the
17th
to
the
7th
of
August
is
three
weeks.
I
was
just
wondering
if
we
could
move
July
to
the
10th
and
the
24th,
the
reason
being
that
the
the
July
4th
is
the
holiday
on
the
Tuesday
and
I
would
just
assume
there
might
be
some
city
of
police
who
want
to
take
off
July
3rd.
Obviously
we're
all
going
to
be
around
for
the
beacon
fireworks
that
haven't
been
announced
yet,
but
but
I
just
wondering.
I
What's
up
last
year,
but
I
know
that
we
have
named
the
second
second
Monday
in
October
indigenous
people's
day
on
this
calendar,
which
we
do
have
discussion
over
but
and
I
know
Nick
isn't
here,
but
he
said
that
he
was
going
to
be
looking
into
if
there
was
other
powers
that
we
had
as
a
city.
Municipality
of
adjusting
the
names
of
certain
holidays,
I
just
wanted
to
bring
that
up.
P
A
And
that's
all
I
got
no
no
exact
session.
Q
You
want
to
come
back
to
make
sure
I
got
my
comments
in,
but
I
do
wish
you
all
a
very
happy
happy
holidays
and
enjoy
the
time
with
your
family
and
I.
Guess.
I'll
see
you
next
year.