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From YouTube: Beacon Council Workshop 5-1-23
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The City of Beacon Council Workshop from May 1, 2023
A
I'm
actually
calling
us
a
special
meeting
to
order
and
we're
going
to
do
a
roll
call
and
a
single
resolution
and
then
we'll
end
the
special
meeting
and
go
into
a
workshop.
So
let
me
call
the
meeting
to
order,
because
it's
a
regular
meeting
we'll
do
a
pledge.
A
A
And
we
have
one
item
in
business
so
that
one
item
and
because
it's
a
special
meeting
there
isn't
a
community
there
isn't
a
public
comment
section
we'll
pick
that
up
next
week,
so
I'm
looking
for
a
motion
and
a
second
appointing
Arcane
Gorham
to
the
position
of
police
officer
motion.
Second,
so
Molly
and
George
Chief.
Do
you
want
to
introduce
our
camp.
C
Good
evening,
everybody
thank
you
for
your
time
tonight.
I
appreciate
it
I'm
here
to
present
you
tonight
our
Keem
Gorham
for
the
position
of
a
police
officer
for
the
city
of
Beacon,
Police
Department,
our
team's
28
years
old.
He
spent
most
of
his
adult
life
and
services
and
occupations
helping
other
people
he's
a
very
busy
man.
He's
worked
part-time
for
works,
part-time
for
the
town
of
Marlboro,
Police
Department,
the
town
of
Fishkill
police
department
and
the
village
of
Fishkill
Police
Department.
As
a
police
officer.
C
He
also
works
part-time
for
mobile
life,
support
as
an
emergency
medical
technician
and
he's
a
volunteer
fire
chief
with
middle
hope,
fire
department,
some
other
occupations.
Our
team
has
held
in
this
past
as
emergency
medical
technician
for
American
Medical
Response
in
Connecticut,
a
back
hauler
and
selector
for
CS
CNS,
Wholesale,
grocers
and
unfeed
wholesale
grocers.
He
was
a
safety
coordinator
of
Partners
in
safety.
He
was
an
EMT
for
the
town
of
Newburgh,
Emergency,
Medical,
Services
and
part-time
police
officer
for
the
town
of
platico
police
department
and
the
safety
coordinator
for
shavoni
construction.
C
He
does
come
with
some
credentials
that
are
very
helpful
for
the
people
of
the
city
of
Beacon.
It's
going
to
definitely
be
an
asset
for
this
city
he's
already
graduated
from
the
Ulster
County
Law
Enforcement
Academy,
which
means
we
don't
have
to
send
him
to
the
academy.
We
can
start
him
on
field
training
right
away,
which
will
speed
up
the
process
of
actually
getting
our
team
on
the
street
and
working
on
him
on
his
own
he's.
Certified
emergency
medical
technician,
he's
a
CPR
and
first
aid
instructor
he's
a
bloodborne
and
Airborne
pathogens.
C
He's
passed
a
physical
Physical,
Agility,
Test,
polygraph,
psychological
exam
criminal
history
check
with
past
employers,
neighborhood
canvas
domestic
relationships,
Financial
history,
our
backgrounds
are
pretty
in-depth.
They
take
take
a
while
he's
he's
done
done.
An
excellent
job.
I
personally
know
the
chief
of
police
from
Marlborough,
Town,
official
and
Village
of
Fishkill.
They
all
talk
very
highly
of
our
team
and
not
nothing
really
negative
on
him.
That's
coming
up
that
to
speak
of
and
I
think
he's
going
to
be
a
good
asset
for
the
for
the
city
of
bacon.
B
A
And
just
in
terms
of
timing,
there
was
an
element
of
wanting
to
get
him
hired
before
a
certain
date
for
various
hiring
reasons.
There
were
some
incidental
reasons
like
you
could
get
the
back
dentures
in
the
room
for
this
meeting
weren't
sure
we
could
get
them
for
the
next
meeting
and
then,
finally,
if
we
waited
another
week,
you'd
probably
end
up
at
another
part-time
department
or
another
volunteer.
C
A
D
B
B
A
So
I'm
going
to
open
a
workshop.
That's
what's
next
on
the
agenda!
I
see
all
the
council
members
present
for
the
workshop,
with
the
exception
of
Dan
who's
excused
welcome
and
let's
keep
going
so.
B
H
A
Okay,
everyone
good
I,
heard
a
unanimous
yes,
so
the
next
one
is
appointing
Jim
James
Eve
to
the
recreation
committee.
That
was
her
application
that
I
we
received
I've,
actually
known
Jimmy
for
probably
30
years.
He
lived
in
Ward
2,
so
it
was
one
of
the
people.
I
met
30
some
years
ago,
when
I
was
first
running,
he
was
active
in
the
community.
Back
then
did
a
lot
in
the
rec
Recreation
Area
and
is
willing
to
serve
the
community.
Still
so
I'd
be
happily
put
him
forward.
A
A
Oh
yeah,
interesting
so
I
didn't
know
that
one
anything
else
he
lives
on
sergeant
and
I
think
he's
been
there.
Maybe
his
entire
time
in
Beacon,
I
I
think
his
career
was
in
corrections.
I
believe
right.
Yeah.
A
Yeah
next
item
is
a
traffic
and
safety
recommendation
recommendations
regarding
parking
and
roadway
signage,
Ben
you're,
going
to
tell
us
what
all
this
means.
E
Correct
one
of
my
hats
is
that
I
sit
as
secretary
to
the
traffic
and
parking
Safety,
Committee
and
I
put
together
a
couple
recommendations
they've
made
for
your
review.
If
you
decide
you'd
like
to
move
forward
with
it,
then
we
will
put
together
a
draft
local
law
for
you
to
review
for
next
time
and
then
think
about
voting
to
set
a
public
hearing
at
next
week's
meeting.
There
was
two
recommendations
made
by
the
committee
based
on
feedback
from
members
in
the
community.
E
The
first
is
changing
an
intersection
at
dewind
and
South
Walnut
from
a
two-way
stop
to
a
four-way
stop,
and
this
was
one
that
was
a
pretty
easy
yes
for
most
of
them
from
most
of
the
committee
members.
So
that's
the
first
of
the
two
in.
D
E
Okay,
so
the
first
is:
can
everyone
see
this
all
right?
Yes,
all
right.
The
first
one
I
just
described
is
South
Walnut
and
dewint,
making
that
from
a
two
to
a
four-way,
stop
in
that
second
one.
Let.
A
Me
just
extended
question
on
that:
let
you
back
it
up
a
second.
So
if
I
recall,
if
I'm
going
from
Henry
to
Cliff
Street
on
dewint,
first
it's
Henry
and
then
there's
a
stop
sign
at
Henry
and
South
Chestnut,
which
is
where
dewint
begins.
Then
there
is
a
second
stop
sign.
That's
recently
installed
at
to
wind
and
South
Brett,
which
I
believe
is
two
blocks.
Past
South,
Chestnut
I,
don't
think,
there's
a
stop
sign
at
South
Cedar,
then
walnut
would
be
two
blocks.
E
Off
top
of
my
head,
I'm,
not
sure
about
all
the
surrounding
areas,
you
would
probably
know
better
than
me,
but
I
can
certainly
do
some
research
on
that
for
the
next
time.
If
you'd,
like
a
more
zoomed
out
view
of
what
the
stop
sign
in
the
area,
looks.
A
D
A
A
K
G
Just
sort
of
piggybacking
on
what
Lee
said,
I'll
say
this
also
kind
of
aligns
with
what
our
Main
Street
access
committee
was
recommending
was
looking
at
sort
of
managing
traffic,
one
block
north
or
south
of
Main
Street,
and
so,
along
with
what
the
parking
and
traffic
Safety
Committee
was
talking
about
about
some
driver
Behavior
around
this
intersection,
I
think
adding
more
yes,
there's
more
stop
signs
and
multiple
intersections,
but
I
think
it
aligns
with
our
direction
for
the
city
overall
as
well.
Yep.
H
A
E
Right
so
the
second
recommendation
for
your
consideration
is
extending
some
existing
no
parking
during
any
hours
of
the
day
to
the
north
side
of
East
Main
between
Mountain
and
Shia
I
believe
the
South
Side
was
addressed
somewhat
recently,
maybe
last
year
by
the
council.
E
But
the
committee
does
regularly
hear
concerned
citizens
about
the
width
of
these
streets,
or
this
stretch
when
there's
parking
along
these
either
side
has
led
to
some
issues
of
navigability.
So
that's
why
they
recommended
extending
that
a
bit
more
to
alleviate
congestion
and
make
it
easier
to
get
through
the
the
stretch
of
roadway.
E
The
section
that's
blue-
and
that
is
the
north
side
of
East
Main
between
Shia
and
Mountain
Lane.
L
Really
glad
to
see
that
the
traffic
and
Safety
Committee
took
this
up.
I
know
that
neighbors
there
have
been
working
on
this
for
well.
I
I
saw
petition
collected
10
years
ago,
so
you
know
it's
it's
been
off
and
on
because
of
covid
I
think
it
it.
You
know,
went
up
and
down
and
of
course,
changes
with
the
seasons
but
I'm
glad
to
see
this
happening.
E
I
have
to
go
back
and
check
my
notes.
This
one
was
recommended
a
while
back.
We
just
tend
to
try
and
bring
several
at
once
for
the
sake
of
efficiency
in
passing
local
laws.
I
can
certainly
do
that
for
our
meeting,
though,
go
back
and
review
the
discussion
points
a
little
bit
more
in
depth.
G
Great
yeah
I
think
when
we
think
of
you
know,
that's
very
close
to
pocket
road
which
a
lot
of
people
like
to
hike
on
so
I
think
just
being
clear
about
why
we
think
this
takes
away
parking
near
that
entrance
to
the
mountain,
but
the
the
reasons
why
for
safety
we
think
it's
a
good
reason
would
be
great
to
bring
up
when
we
talk
about
this
publicly
and
have
a
public
hearing
about
it.
If
we
choose
to
do
so,.
B
And
we
will
be
rebuilding
the
water
tank
at
the
end
at
unpocket
Road
at
some
point
and
I
hope
to
get
some
some
parking
spaces
for
local
residents.
If
I
can,
as
we
do
that
project,
it
really
depends
on
where
the
footprint
of
the
tank
ends
up,
but
I've
definitely
put
that
on
the
engineers
radar
that
that's
a
goal.
So
if
we
can
build
a
little
five
or
ten
Car
Lot
up
there
once
we
reconfigure
it,
we
would
do
that,
but
that's
some
years
out,
yeah.
A
L
D
A
You
know
and
I
think
we
should
just
be
selective
as
to
where
we
restrict
parking
and
it's
actually
a
good
thing.
It
slows
people
down
so
I
have
no
issue
with
this.
One,
though.
I
Just
wanted
to
thank
you
Chris
for
noting
I
know
it's
several
years
out,
but
the
potential
for
parking
when
the
tank
is
moved.
L
B
Were
discussing
the
gate
on
Monument
Road,
which
is
the
next
Road
up
it
it's
just
complex.
At
the
time
the
state
parks
had
bought
a
gate
to
install
just
above
the
Lambs
Hill
entrance
off
the
road
and
but
again
I
think
we
had
a
discussion
with
them
that
that,
probably
wouldn't
last
very
long
if
they
did
put
it
in
there
and
we
had
talked
to
one
of
the
adjacent
the
easements.
B
There
need
a
lot
of
research
like
there's
easements
over
there's,
multiple
easements
over
the
property
at
some
point,
when
we
get
some
time,
I'll
unwind,
some
of
that,
and
we
may
look
to
install
a
gate
there.
It's
just
that
about
20
different
entities
have
access
to
the
mountain,
so
part
of
it
was
whether
it
was
going
to
do
anything
or
not
and
again,
I.
Don't
think.
We've
made
a
determination
either
way,
but
that
is
in.
B
We
are
just
finishing
a
drinking
source,
a
drinking
Source
water
protection
plan
and
one
of
the
things
that
was
cited
was
to
look
at
restricting
vehicle
access
up
the
hill.
One
of
the
other
reasons
we
waited
as
we
were
finishing
the
projects
on
pocket
and
then
up
at
Mount
Beacon
and
that
mount
beacon
work
is
now
underway
again
and
and
hopefully
will
be
finished
by
the
end
of
May.
L
B
The
cell
tower
people
are
allowed
to
emergency
access.
People
Parks
people
to
drive
up
for
picnics
is
not.
B
M
B
L
That's
wonderful,
I
mean
I've,
seen
four-wheelers
driving
across
the
okay
and
gets
getting
stuck
yeah,
and
you
know
it's
just
they're.
Coming
from
out
of
town
a.
D
L
Of
them,
but
but
there
are
people
in
town
who
do
it
too,
and
it's
a
shame.
It
really
is
you
know
if
it's
it's,
this
space
belongs
to
all
of
us.
We
should
all
feel
yeah.
B
B
L
A
All
right,
everyone
good
on
that.
So
next
item
is
tree
removal
and
pruning
bids
and
Chris
you're,
going
to
tell
us
on
the
results
of
the
bids.
Yes,.
B
So
the
the
three,
the
next
three
items
are
bids
that
we
do
every
two
years.
This
one
is
for
tree
removal
and
pruning,
and
you
may
remember
all
the
work
we
did
at
pruning
trees
in
Memorial
Park.
We
put
this
back
out
to
bid
and
had
four
bids.
The
low
bidder
is
Alpine
Tree
Service,
which
is
the
company
that
we
worked
with
previously,
and
that
was
very
good
to
work
with.
This
was
right
on
the
edge
of
whether
we
needed
to
go
out
for
bid
or
not
so
we
did,
we
did
go
out
to
bid.
B
We
weren't
sure
how
much
it
was
going
to
end
up
being
I.
Think
the
total
value
of
the
contract
per
year
should
be
about
25
000
per
year
again
under
our
rules.
We
could
have
done
this
through
quotes,
but
since
we
were
doing
other
things
too,
we
just
bit
it
and
it
it's
quite
it's
a
lot
simpler,
sometimes
so
we're
recommending
that
we
award
a
contract
to
Alpine
tree
service
for
2023
and
2024.
G
B
A
B
B
A
B
There
is
bituminous
cold,
but
there's
also
a
bituminous
concrete,
which
is
essentially
the
same
thing
as
asphalt
paving
okay.
So
this
is.
This
is
our
repaving
contract
which
each
year
we
do
like
last
year
we
did
about
24
streets
this
year,
we'll
probably
do
about
12,
because
we're
doing
larger
ones
we
go
out
and
we
get
a
price
per
ton
installed
bid
and
clove
excavators
which
had
done
this
previously
for
us
got
the
bid
and
they
were
great
last
year
and
we're
very
comfortable
working
with
them.
So
this
is
again
a
two-year
price.
B
G
A
great
word,
I
have
the
same
question.
Is
there
a
rough
estimate
of
when
we'll
have
we
can
share
with
the
public
the
list
of
streets
where
we're
hoping
to
pave
this
year?
Yeah.
B
B
You
we
I
know:
Mickey's
been
going
back
and
forth
on
a
couple,
there's
like
a
couple
large
streets
that
we
were
thinking
about,
taking
a
run
at
like
Beekman,
and
that
would
basically
use
up
a
lot
of
our
funding.
So
we're
he's
still
doing
the
trade-offs
between
doing
a
lot
more
smaller
local
streets
or
that
you
know,
big
area
which
needs
some
improvement.
D
B
Okay,
so
before
we
pave,
we
have
to
do
the
Milling
where
we
go
down
about
a
half
inch
of
pavement
last
year
we
did
five
six
five
or
six
days
of
this.
So
again,
this
contract's,
probably
valued
at
about
thirty
thousand
thirty
five
thousand
at
the
high
end,
so
it
was
worth
going
out
to
bid
the
low
bidder
is
a
colarussa
and
Sun.
Who
again
did
our
our
work.
Last
year
too.
L
D
L
B
B
Akalarusa
has
a
very
large
machine
that
just
is
about
volume.
It
goes
through
and
it
you
know,
with
two
or
three
passes
takes
off
the
whole
top
and
our
our
folks
go
back
in
and
they
do
the
hand
work
around
those
elements.
So
you'll
see
our
crews
working
hand
in
hand
with
with
the
other
companies.
B
D
B
You
were
driving
over
it,
but
our
our
folks
do
that
in-house.
When.
B
Yeah,
it
depends
how
long
it's
there,
like
we've,
been
getting
rains
where
our
our
storm
water
system
isn't
able
to
handle
it
all
at
once,
but
over
time
over
the
next
day
or
two,
it
does
clear
up.
B
We
have
a
couple
chronic
areas
where
we
have
to
go
and
clean
out
on
Cliff
Street
near
Maine,
I've
had
a
have
that
cleaned
out
and
at
some
point
we're
going
to
have
to
put
a
a
larger
drain.
We've
had
some
issues
on
South
Walnut,
but
they're
they're,
really
expensive,
fixes
you'd
have
to
run
a
whole
new
storm
pipe
system
so
for
the
most
part,
I
think
we
we
do
pretty
well
on
drainage,
but
it,
but
it
can.
B
B
I
haven't
noticed
the
funny
smell
at
cliff
and
Main
I
I.
Don't
know
that
I'll
I'll
keep
an
eye
out
for
it.
I
mean
it
I
I,
don't
the
water
didn't
seem
to
be
stagnant.
M
Outside
of
Lux
Optique
and
the
bus
stop.
A
D
A
Okay,
leaf
blower,
it's
as
we're
gonna
postpone
again
is
that.
B
Yes,
so
we
have
two
amendments
to
our
general
fund.
The
first
is
to
transfer
six
thousand
dollars
from
our
contingency
to
fire
training.
We
hired
two
fire
officers
about
a
month
and
a
half
ago
who
are
now
in
the
academy.
B
B
This
had
come
through
the
Traffic
Safety
Committee
that
there
were
children
at
the
school
after
hours
and
they
were
crossing
when
there
wasn't
a
crossing
guard
there
anymore.
So
these
are
those
units
that
you
press
the
button
and
it
flashes
so
that
you
really
can't
miss
it
right
at
the
crosswalk
and
then
it
goes
for
20
seconds
or
30
seconds.
For
someone
to
cross,
we,
we
don't
generally
put
these
in,
but
in
this
case
we
kind
of
threaded,
the
needle,
because
it's
a
high
volume
kind
of
high-speed
area
with
a
school
crossing.
B
So
we
thought,
if
there's
anywhere,
for
one
of
these
to
be
installed,
and
you
have
a
similar
one
installed
it-
the
River,
Ridge
townhouses
that
the
developer
had
it
put
in.
So
this
this
will
be
similar.
G
A
So
that's
the
item
for
the
budget,
everybody!
Okay
with
that.
G
I
have
a
actually
a
request
Chris,
because
last
year
we
talked
a
lot
about
police
over
time
we
had
a
bunch
of
items
towards
that,
and
so
nothing
anytime
soon,
but
maybe
when
you
talk
about
the
capital
plan
or
sometimes
sort
of
like
this
coming
summer,
I
think
just
to
get
an
update
on
where
we
are
with
that.
It
sounds
like
we're
not
having
the
need
for
that
and
so
I
think.
That's
something
I'd
like
the
public
to
be
aware
of.
As
it
came
up
a
number
of
times
last
year,
yeah.
B
B
What
we
attribute
the
overtime
to
there
are
some
things
we
can't
help
like
when
we
had
the
the
call
at
Round
out
that
a
lot
that
was
a
lot
of
overtime,
but
we
were,
we
were
five
percent
ahead
of
the
budget,
so,
like
I
think
we
had,
we
were
a
quarter
through
the
it's
actually
at
the
end
of
March.
We
were
a
quarter
through
the
year
and
only
20
through
the
budget,
and
then
I'll
I'll
get
update
numbers
when
we
probably
at
the
end
of
May
I'll,
get
updated
numbers
that'd
be
great.
B
Thank
you
yeah,
but
we
review
the
chief
and
I
review
it
weekly.
We
do
a
weekly
meeting
and
go
over
what
you
know,
what
we're
going
to
choose
to
use
the
overtime
for
on
the
things
that
are
discretionary
and
he's
been
doing
a
great
job
holding
the
line
on
it.
B
L
A
A
The
right
approach,
I,
will
say:
I,
don't
think
I
recall
a
city
administrator
managing
overtime
with
the
chief
carefully,
so
I'm
glad
you're
doing
that.
A
Do
we
want
to
pick
up
item
nine
and
then
come
back
to
one
all
right,
so
item
19
new,
there's
a
resolution
urging
the
state
to
pass
a
right
to
council
for
all
Justice?
Will
you
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
that?
Yeah.
K
K
That's
great,
but
I
also
wanted
to
make
sure
that
preserving
our
the
people
that
live
here
now
and
doing
what
we
can
to
protect
tenants
and
we've
done
a
lot
already
But
continuing
to
keep
an
eye
toward
our
tenants,
our
renters,
our
homeowners
Etc,
the
people
that
are
living
here,
I
wanted
to
do
that.
So
I
was
trying
to
wrap
my
head
around
what
we
could
do
and
there's
this
bill
in
the
assembly
and
in
the
legislature.
K
That
is
a
right
to
counsel
for
all
and
I
was
like
well,
we
can't
Implement
that
locally,
but
we
can
pass
this
resolution
to
encourage
the
Senate
and
assembly
to
pass
that
and
what
that
does.
Is
that
provides
legal
protections
or
not
legal
protections?
I'm
sorry,
it
provides
legal
counsel
for
anyone
facing
evictions
in
the
state
and
I.
K
As
a
council,
we
had
already
passed,
or
we
signed
a
contract
with
legal
services
of
the
Hudson
Valley,
and
so
we
have
a
paralegal
on
standby
that
can
help
assist
qualifying
residents
in
the
city
when
they're
going
through
eviction
proceedings.
But
it's
not
legal
representation
and
not
everybody
qualifies
so.
This
would
help
expand
the
net
of
those
who
have
legal
access
to
Legal
Services
during
an
eviction
case,
as
well
as
expand
the
services
that
are
provided
not
just
in
Beacon,
but
residents,
Statewide
and
I
thought.
M
I
G
G
A
It
was
sort
of
late,
which
I
think
is
fine,
because
I
think
we're
all
saying.
That's
okay,
but
I
will
ask
I'd.
D
A
K
A
K
Yeah
in
general,
that's
the
way
I
would
prefer
to
it
as
well.
I
was
just
like.
Oh,
this
is
time
sensitive.
Thank
you
for
entertaining
and
supporting
us
anyway.
I
M
I
Could
forget
if
it
was
a
state
or
a
Federal
grant
I'm,
just
not
sure
I,
know
anecdotally,
there's
a
different
woman
whose
number
seems
to
keep
coming
up
yeah.
B
A
H
A
So,
let's
see,
if
that
makes,
has
Council
had
a
chance
to
look
at
this.
I
have
not,
but
we'll
do
so
tomorrow.
Yeah
I
would
appreciate
that
that
should
also
be
a
step.
So
take
a
look
at
that,
let's
make
sure
we're.
Okay
I
see
the
assembly
member
is
a
co-sponsor.
I
may
just
check
in
with
their
office,
because
it
just
helps
me
understand,
you
know.
Is
there
something
else
out
there?
Is
there
a
better
one?
Is
there
a
less
whatever
one?
D
K
A
Part
of
that
funding
in
the
budget,
I'm
hoping
they'll
do
more,
but
I
think
that's
a
very
appropriate
approach
to
the
problem,
because
it's
providing
funding
where
it's
tested
by
people
who
actually
have
the
need
right
so
I
think
that's
important
too.
That's
all
I
got
I.
L
Just
want
to
add
that
there
are
actual
landlords
and
housing
providers
who
are
signing
on
in
support
of
this
as
well.
So
I
think
it's
just
noteworthy
to
know
that
you
know
organizations
like
canva
and
Linux
Hill
Neighborhood
houses.
They
have
a
lot
of
tenants,
but
they
still
see
this
legislation
as
beneficial.
I
So
one
more
note
I
would
add,
under
the
be
it
further
resolved,
that
we
send
copies.
Also
to
the
speakers
of
the
house
and
assembly.
A
Yeah
I
may
ask
the
assembly
member
if
they
had
any
problem
with
that
I.
Don't.
B
And
we'll
correct
Jacobson's
last
name
which
has
an
Ian
at
one
point.
So.
D
A
Jacobson
two
different
ways:
all
right,
we'll
get
there,
so
we
will
I
will
ask
the
City
attorney
to
get
a
good
look
at
this,
and,
in
addition
to
the
comments
that
you
heard.
B
K
A
So
let's
go
back
up
to
item
one
which
is
our
affordable
housing
discussion.
We
have
both
John
Clark
on
zoom
and
we
have
Nick
Ward
Willis
in
person.
How
did
the
two
of
you
want
to
work?
This
I
guess
so.
J
I
guess
I'll
start
and
then
John,
please,
fill
in
we've
had
a
number
of
discussions
with
the
council
based
on
John's
recommendations
and
a
little
overview
of
ways
to
increase,
affordable
housing.
The
council
has
been
looking
at
that
and
one
of
those
items
is
the
city's
existing
senior
affordable
housing
overlay
District
before
it
was
rather
than
read,
and
then
we'll.
Let's
go
for
some
of
the
more
readily
implementable,
Solutions
and
so
John
identified
senior,
affordable
housing
overlay
District
as
one
area
that
could
be
modified
and
would
allow
more
affordable
housing
opportunities
to
be
constructed.
J
So
the
senior
affordable
housing
overlay
district
is
what's
called
a
floating
Zone.
It's
a
district
that
exists
on
paper,
but
it
has
not
yet
been
applied
to
any
of
the
properties
and
the
way
this
Zone
came
about
was
in
2012.
There
was
an
interest
to
create
such
a
district
and
encourage
it,
but
it
was
limited.
It's
used
to
buildings
that
are
50
years
or
older,
and
it
was
the
Highland
Hospital
that
took
advantage
of
this,
and
so
they
came
before
the
city
council.
J
Major
presentation
explained
why
they
thought
that
building
could
be
adaptively
reused
for
senior,
affordable
housing
and
the
city
council
then
applied
that
zoning
in
essence
took
that
overlay
Zone
that
was
floating
around
the
city
and
applied
it
to
this
property,
issued
a
special
permit
and
then
the
applicant
went
to
a
planning
board,
and
that
was
a
several
months-long
process.
As
you
had
two
actions
before
the
city
council,
that
required
public
hearings,
the
application
of
the
overlay
district
and
then
the
issuance
of
the
special
permit,
and
you
had
component
of
seek
Revere.
J
A
The
council,
although
that
one
was
six
years
yeah,
because
when
I
look
at
this
zoning,
it's
like
it's
obviously
tailored
for
this
one
property
and
nothing
else
right,
and
so,
even
if
we
want
to
apply
the
concept,
I
think
we
need
to
review
each
of
the
elements
and
I'm
I'm,
interested
and
and
you'll
get
to
it.
I'm
sure
whether
we
should
be
doing
this
as
some
sort
of
an
overlay
or
whether
we
might
just
apply
it
city-wide
regardless.
That's.
J
Correct
and
since
2012
there
has
been
no
other
applications,
just
the
one
with
Highland
Meadows,
and
so
again
these
would
be
affordable
units
restricted
to
to
seniors.
So
what
we've
prepared
is
the
decision
tree
that
we've
used
in
the
past
to
help
us
help
our
office
draft
legislation
that
reflects
what
your,
what
your
wishes
are
and
then
we
The
Next
Step
would
be
if
you
want
to
proceed
with,
and
you
answer
all
the
questions
and
you
decide
you
still
want
to
proceed.
J
We
then
come
back
to
the
council
with
the
actual
legislation
and
there'd
be
some
more
fine-tuning
done,
but
at
least
this
gives
our
office
the
guidance
that
we
would
need.
So
one
of
the
first
questions
we
have
is
in
what
zoning
District
should
the
senior
affordable
housing
development
be
permitted,
and
then
we
have
a
discussion.
What
the
mayor
was
mentioning.
J
It's
an
overlay
zoning
District,
which
means
it's
not
presently
applied
to
the
property
of
property
owner,
needs
to
apply
and
does
the
city
wish
to
consider
making
it
apply
as
a
permitted
use
within
certain
districts
and
John.
Clark
and
I
had
spoken
about
this,
because
the
overlay
District
means
they've
got
to
come
to
the
city
council
and
get
it
applied.
If
it
were
already
permitted
in
certain
zoning
districts,
then
they
would
not
have
to
come
back
to
the
come
to
the
city.
J
H
When
I
looked
at
the
the
code
and
the
various
districts,
the
only
two
that
I
thought
that
it
wouldn't
be
appropriate
for
would
be
the
Waterfront
Park
District,
which
essentially
has
no
other
no
uses
other
than
quarks
and
a
little
potential
retail
and
the
heavy
industrial
district,
where
you
might
want
to
maintain
that
for
job
creation
and
and
specific
heavy
industrial
type
uses
now,
there's
limited
land
and
heavy
industrial
so
other
than
that.
H
The
other
one
that
came
up
for
discussion-
and
you
know
I,
don't
see
why
you
would
preclude
it,
but
Fishkill
Creek
development
District.
You
know,
there's
certain
sensitivities
along
the
creek.
Maybe
you
want
to
think
about
that
separately,
but
other
than
those
two
districts
I
thought
it
could
apply
anywhere
and
then
the
question
becomes.
If
that's
acceptable,
you
excluded
for
those
two
or
maybe
three
districts
and
allow
it
everywhere
else.
H
Do
you
do
it
as
of
right
or
do
you
do
it
by
an
overlay
District
where
it
needs
that
extra
step
and
it
ends
up
being
two
extra
steps,
because
the
council
generally
refers
Seeker
to
the
planning
board,
and
so
it
goes
for
application
of
the
to
the
city.
Council
is
referred
to
sneaker
for
the
for
the
analysis
on
environmental
issues.
Then
it
goes
back
to
the
council
for
a
vote
on
the
concept
plan
and
then
it
goes
back
and
rezoning
and
then
it
goes
back
to
the
planning
of
our
site
plan.
H
Yeah
there
was
some
concern,
I
think
in
our
last
discussion
about
the
R1
districts,
whether
you
want
this
in
residential
neighborhoods
or
on
small
Parcels.
Really,
you
know
house
conversions,
those
sorts
of
opportunities,
so
we
thought
you
know
if
you
put
a
acreage
limit
on
it,
a
minimum
acreage
of
a
half
acre
or
something
similar,
then
it
wouldn't
end
up
being
in
the
you
know,
residential
small
lot,
neighborhoods
intend
to
be
on
larger
scale.
H
Lots
and
I
pointed
out
a
few
of
those
at
the
last
meeting
sort
of
one
two
three
acre
lots
were
examples.
A
Yeah,
you
know
before
we
start
I
just
want
to
talk
kind
of
broadly.
You
know
there
was
a
long
time
where
my
thinking
on
zoning
was
was
pointing
Beacon
zoning
to
the
21st
century,
as
opposed
to
kind
of
the
old
60s
zoning,
and
there
was
you
know
things
like
historic
preservation,
form-based
zoning
things
like
that
which
were
really
important
and
then
the
last
several
years
as
we
got.
You
know
in
demand
again
where
Beacon
was
sort
of
you
know
back
in
popularity.
The
my
thinking
on
zoning
was
to
expect
more
from
development.
D
A
A
Are
there
ways
that
we
can
encourage
construction,
and
you
know
a
little
bit
of
density
as
a
result
in
ways
that
fit
right,
as
opposed
to
object
and
I
I
like
the
concept
of
senior
housing
being
more
by
right,
I
like
the
limitation
of
well,
but
if,
if
the
lots
are
small,
that's
probably
going
to
be
intrusive,
so
I
I,
like
the
limit
you
know
to
like
minimum
half
acre
before
you
would
have
that
as
an
option,
but
I'd
like
to
talk
through
you
know
what
people
think
about
it.
A
But
my
first
reaction
is
this
is
the
kind
of
thing
where
we
might
want
to
be
permitting
things
more
than
we
have
in
the
past.
In
light
of
that,
need
for
a
lot
of
construction.
I
know
we're
not
going
to
fix
the
Region's
problems
all
by
ourselves,
but
but
those
are
the
kinds
of
things
I'm
kind
of
leaning
toward
now
and
want
to
learn
more
about.
H
I
I
didn't
actually
do
any
research
on
that
because
we
already
had
it
in
place,
so
it
wasn't
like
adopting
a
new
law.
It
was
making
the
existing
law
more
flexible.
If
you
want
I
can
off
the
top
of
my
head,
I
I,
can't
think
of
any
but
I
know.
There's
affordable,
housings
zoning
overlays.
H
Of
there's
a
proposal
actually
by
Ken
Carney,
they
they,
the
town
board,
did
the
rezoning
I
think
in
the
last
couple
years
and
can
Courtney
has
come
forward
with
an
80
unit,
a
development
proposal
which
has
been
in
limbo
for
a
few
months
and
I'm,
not
sure
why
I
think
some
people
on
the
planning
board
and
conservation
advisor
Committee
in
the
town
were
critical
of
The
Proposal
the
layout
and
that
sort
of
thing
so
they're
going
back
in
I
think
maybe
redesigning
it.
But
yes,
there's.
I
I'm
I'm
interested
actually
I,
don't
know
what
you're
about
to
say,
because
what
I'm
about
to
say
is
what
you
said
last
week,
which
is
that
I'm
looking
at
these
proposals,
I,
don't
I'm,
not
I'm,
I'm
interested
in
all
of
these
proposals.
I
I
think
that
I
want
to
see
if
we
can't
refocus
this
conversation
on
a
point
that
Ren
brought
up
a
few
weeks
ago,
which
is
that
the
recommendations
from
the
County's
housing
study
was
not
just
that
we
need
to
build
more
units,
but
that
we
need
to
be
building
or
creating
more
housing
for
people
who
make
I
believe
it's
50,
000
or
less
a
year,
which
is
for
our
region,
50
Ami.
I
It
is
still
well
above
what
you
can
afford
if
you
make
minimum
wage
and
there
is
still
a
strong
gap
between
that
income
level
and
the
Section
8
housing
vouchers
and
I'm
I'm,
not
totally
clear
in
looking
at
these
proposals,
how
that
need
overlays
on
what
we're
sort
of
discussing
now.
A
So
that
one
can
I
suggest
we
pick
that
up
as
a
separate
issue,
because
one
of
the
things
we'd
have
to
do
to
do
that
is
we
have
to
pull
up
the
county
study
and
take
a
look
at
what
it
says.
I,
don't
think
we're
prepared
to
do
that
tonight,
we're
kind
of
looking
at
the
senior
one
first,
if
that's
okay,
well,.
L
If
we're
giving
up
the
senior
one
that
you
know,
if
we're,
if
we're
saying
we
don't
need,
Council,
doesn't
need
to
look
at
the
same
senior.
Could
we
say
if
it
meets
these
certain
criteria?
Another
thing
that
came
up
was
there'd,
be
a
transportation
plan
in
place
if
it
was
if
it
was
in
one
of
those
remotes
areas
that
we
talked.
A
H
If,
if
you
look
at
the
the
memo
that
was
prepared,
there's
nine
questions
that
would
need
decision
points
from
the
council
and
the
last
one.
Nine
is
the
level
of
percentage
of
Ami.
That
would
be
part
of
the
program,
so
you
could
certainly
put
in
a
lower
it's
100
percent.
Now
you
could
go
down
to
much
lower
as
part
of
your
criteria,
so
that
could
be
built
into
the
senior
housing
component
as
well.
I
But
I
think
that's
a
significant
issue.
It
was
pointed
out
in
the
housing
study
that
seniors
are
in
particular
need
of
Housing
and
that's
that's
very
true,
I'm
just
again
and
more
interested
I
think
in
an
affordable
housing
overlay.
That
would
also
prioritize
seniors
within
a
broader
plan,
but
that
is
more
focused
on
income
levels
than
necessary.
A
particular
age
group
particularly
I
think
because
I
am
interested
in
seeing
intergenerational
households.
A
Oh
to
what
do
you
mean
by
that
term,
just
Define
for
the
audience
right.
B
I
That
you
know
we
don't
want
to
have
any
particular
or
I.
Don't
want
to
see
and
I
have
heard
from
other
constituents
that
we
don't
want
to
see
any
particular
demographic,
be
that
age
or
income
really
existing
in
homogenously
in
in
any
one
housing
unit.
A
How
far
we
go
down
the
path
by
first
understanding.
What
are
the
needs
for
the
county-wide
and
what
are
the
communities
doing?
I,
don't
mind
us
doing
more
than
our
fair
share,
but
having
been
in
Beacon
for
30
plus
years
and
seeing
our
downside
as
a
very,
very
difficult
one
to
come
out
of.
I
just
want
to
be
cautious
about
how
we
do
that.
So
I
would
like
it
to
be
databased
and
like
us
to
develop
the
data
to
have
that
discussion
appropriately.
L
I
think
John's
point
is
a
good
one,
that
you
know
the
these
criteria.
Num
letter
F,
you
know
that's
kind
of
where
it
is
right
there
and
the
cat.
If
the
council
is
both
wanting
to
revise
the
senior
affordable
housing
overlay
District
to
make
it
more
accessible
to
developers
so
that
they
don't
have
to
come
back
and
check
with
us,
but
we
say
now:
yes,
we
can
do
that.
We
like
that
idea
of
it
going
straight
to
the
planning
board,
but
we
want
to
keep
it
at
100
Ami.
L
L
I
M
A
I
A
So
let
me
suggest
we
try
to
go
through
the
senior
one.
First,
I
was
kind
of
hoping
this
would
be
an
exercise
that
would
give
us
kind
of
exposure
to
the
all
of
the
different
ideas,
because
a
number
of
them
a
number
of
them
are
in
here,
and
that
we
would
have
kind
of
a
discussion
that
would
help
form
this
one,
but
it
would
also
form
kind
of
the
basis
for
subsequent
discussions,
because
this
one
covers
a
lot
of
the
bases.
It's.
A
I
How
much
work
would
it
be
to
adapt
if
you
know,
if
we're
going
through
the
process
of
reviewing
a
housing
overlay
to
just
create
it
as
just
an
affordable
housing
overlay,
and
it
seems
that
there
are
templates
for
that?
Maybe
patients,
a
template,
but
examples
of
that
in
other
municipalities
and
because
I
think
you're
right
Lee
that
it's
helpful
in
that
it
makes
us
get
specific
about
what
exactly
we're.
Looking
for
on
all
of
these
criteria.
Levels
I
just
again,
am
more
interested
in
broader
demographics.
J
It's
a
creating
an
affordable
way.
District!
It's
it's
not
difficult.
It's
just
a
matter
of
determining
what
your
criteria
is.
Then
it
would
be
similar
to
the
senior
housing
overlay.
District
difficulty
is
that
you'd
have
to
come
back
to
the
city
council
and
apply
it
each
time
in
terms
of
from
a
developer's
perspective
that
adds
cost
and
time
by
making
it
an
overlay
District,
as
opposed
to
being
a
permitted
use
within
the
district.
N
So
I
mean
so
if
we
replace
what
John
is
suggesting,
that's
been
just
eliminate
the
senior
part
of
it
and
have
a
does
that
think
and
simplify
the
process
for
all
affordable
housing.
J
A
deferred
part
to
John
on
that
part
of
the
I
think
interest
in
the
senior
affordable
is
that
it
creates
a
set
category
of
households
who
can
apply
to
that.
So
because
you
can
base
it
limited
on
age
and
they
would
then
have
that
it
would
be
more
of
a
segment
for
them
so
that
you
would
be
meeting
their
needs.
So
you
could
have
both
an
afford
to
end
a
senior
affordable
I
think
there
is
still
a
need
for
a
senior
affordable
based
upon
your
county
data
study.
Yeah.
D
L
It's
mainly
focused
on
income.
You
know
that's
what
we're
mainly
seeing
in
that
study
and
it
seems
like
you,
you
know
if
I
were
a
developer,
I
would
say:
I
could
get
more
bang
for
my
buck,
not
doing
senior
necessarily
or
solely
senior,
because
that
you
wouldn't
have
as
many
H
line
or
handicap
accessible
apartments
that
you
would
need
to
build.
So
it
could
potentially
it's
an
interesting
idea,
I
think
to
just.
K
Removing
the
senior
part
of
this,
and
just
having
it
be
a
housing,
affordable,
housing
overlay
impact,
a
developers
ability
to
just
create
senior
housing
within
that
overlay.
That's
affordable,.
J
You
would
still
I
think
want
to
create
the
component
that
allows
them
to
have
the
age
discrimination
right,
because
we
you
can't
discriminate
in
housing
except
age.
Discrimination
is
one
that
is
permitted,
so
you
can
have
specifically.
Hazmat
is
limited
to
people
who
are
anywhere
from
55
or
older.
You
can
set
what
that
range
is,
and
so
I
think.
J
A
Great,
so
here's
where
I'm
sitting
as
I
said
earlier,
I'm
looking
for
ways
of
opening
up
zoning
in
as
a
broaden
area
of
the
city
as
possible,
and
one
of
my
reactions
listening
to
well,
we
do
seniors
or
we
just
do
any
affordable,
is
I,
have
a
feeling
that
we
would
conclude
that
the
affordable
overlay
would
be
in
more
limited
areas
and
I'm.
Thinking
specifically
about
the
I'm.
A
Looking
at
the
chart
that
the
map
that
John
has
done,
of
whatever
our
R1
districts
in
the
city
and
something
like
80
percent
of
our
land,
is
in
our
one
and
there's
a
compatibility
issue
right,
because,
if
you're
doing
an
overlay,
you
have
to
come
and
get
an
approval
that
there's
a
fit
area
here
again,
just
just
as
we
as
we
work
our
way
through
our
single-family
neighborhoods.
What
kinds
of
uses
are?
A
Do
we
think
are
compatible
that
we
think
will
find
community
support
for,
and
my
two
cents
was
that
the
senior
piece
I
thought
had
the
broadest
applicability
in
terms
of
where
we
might
apply
it
in
the
city
and
I'm,
not
so
sure
that
a
pure,
affordable
would
get
the
quite.
The
same
reaction
in
all
the
neighborhoods:
it's
not
that
we
couldn't
do
it,
but
then
you'd
have
to
see
how
neighborhoods
would
adjust,
or
you
know
how
that
would
work.
A
I
I
live
in
a
very
diverse
neighborhood,
but
I'm
just
looking
at
some
of
the
streets
that
are
more
single-family
I
think
they
may
struggle
even
with
a
senior
approach.
I
think
that
they
would
struggle
with
a
two-family
zoning
as
opposed
to
a
one
family
zoning
in
those
areas.
So
I
just
think.
That's
why
I'm
sort
of
picking
one
where
I
thought?
Maybe
we
could
get
broader
applicability
if
we
are
going
to
pick
unaffordable
as
opposed
to
senior
I,
think
it
just
will
be
a
much
narrower
location
wise
in
the
city.
A
So,
let's
just
kind
of
work,
your
way
through
it.
So
let's
say
you've
got
a
half
acre
site
and
you
put
I,
don't
know,
pick
a
number
six
affordable,
six
senior
units
they're
likely
to
be
either
one
or
two
people
in
each
of
those
right,
because
it's
limited
to
seniors
you're
likely
to
have
fewer
cars
right.
So
it
seemed
to
me
that
the
impact
on
the
neighborhood
with
a
senior
six
units
in
what
would
be
a
single
family-
you
know
otherwise
single
family
home-
would
be
less
than
if
you
had
six
affordable.
A
There
were
families,
for
instance,
or
there
were
variations
of
age
and
more
Vehicles
right.
That
I
think
would
come
out
and
I'm
just
not
sure
that
we
would
find
community
support
for
that
as
much
as
we
would
for
the
senior
one
I'm
just
trying
to
be
real
about.
You
know
what
are
the
impacts
in
the
neighborhood.
K
L
Did
John?
Did
you
check
with
the
the
non-profit
landlords
you're
gonna
Circle
back
with
about
this
proposal?
I
think
you
were
gonna
I.
H
Only
talked
to
Peggle
Larry
from
Community
Services
in
Wappingers,
Falls
who's
did
Meadow
Ridge
and
Highland
Meadows.
She
was
very
interested
in
this,
but
she
was
interested
in
larger
parcels,
not
small
sheets.
Her
forte
is
larger
projects
with
seniors,
and
so
she
was
very
interested
in
it.
She
said
find
me
a
parcel
and
I'll
work
with
Beacon
and
get
it
done,
but
she
would
want
a
larger
parcel
and
streamline
process.
H
That's
what
she
was
looking
for,
but
I
assume
that
if
you
opened
it
up
to
smaller
Parcels,
there
might
be
smaller
scale
developers
Builders,
who
also
might
be
interested
in
doing
it,
especially
if
it
wasn't
say
100,
affordable,
but
a
mix
just
like
you
can
have
intergeneration.
You
have,
inter
mixed
income
tenants.
So
the
thing
about
the
senior
affordable
is
that
it's
already
on
the
books-
and
it
is
generally
speaking,
more
acceptable
in
residential
neighborhoods
to
have
senior
multi-family
than
it
is
to
have
non-senior
multi-family
because
of
traffic
noise.
H
You
know
kids
whatever
right
now,
you
have
like
the
mayor
was
saying:
80,
90
percent
of
the
city
is,
is
restricted
to
single
family
seniors
might
be
acceptable
in
those
senior
family
neighborhoods
because
of
their
characteristics
bought,
affordable,
housing
of
a
general
type
might
not
right.
Now
you
don't
even
allow
two
family
homes
in
this
District,
let
alone
affordable,
housing,
multi-family
units.
H
So
we
we
were
asked
to
look
at
sort
of
the
easy
things
that
could
be
done
relatively
efficiently
and
quickly,
so
that
you
get
a
marker
on
the
board
and
open
up
the
idea
of
having
a
more
mixed
housing
type
in
the
residential
neighborhoods,
and
so
we
thought
senior
was
the
way
to
go
because
it's
already
there,
it's
just
needs
some.
H
H
N
Who
would
if
whether
it
were
affordable
or
limited
to
senior?
Who
would
on
a
on
smaller
Lots?
Who
would
monitor
these?
You
know?
Would
it
be
the
you
know,
who
determines
qualifications
and
year
after
year,
doing
inspections
on
that,
because
I
suspect
that
you
know
on
a
bigger
scale,
when
there's
50
or
60
units
is
going
to
be
a
lot
different
than
it
was
two
or
four
units.
L
It's
like
the
one
we're
looking
at
across
streets,
their
nightship
contract
is
monitored
by
Doh
I
think
so
it
would
depend
on
what
their
funding,
how
their
project
comes
together,
but
it
sounds
like
if
I
understand
the
developer.
That
John
is
mentioning
if
I
understand
that
model
I,
don't
think
that
there
is
I,
don't
think
that
there's
a
state
body
that
would
monitor
do
you
know
Lee
this.
L
L
A
L
L
A
Yeah
George,
though
you
bring
up
the
point
of
of
if
we
wanted
to
do
something
like
half
an
acre,
and
we
had
some
program
like
that.
One
there's,
the
issue
of
you
know,
can
can
a
builder
afford
to
build
that
few
Acres
right,
because
you
need
enough
units
to
support
the
affordable
component.
Now
you
raise
the
second
question
is
well.
A
N
I
Well,
aren't
our
Workforce
Development
units
currently
managed
by
Hudson
River
housing
and
those
are
only
sometimes
only
a
couple
units
per
building,
but
because
it's
an
agency
that
monitors
multiple
buildings
in
the
city
that
that
makes
it
worth
it
for
them.
I,
don't
know.
Fourth,
it's
the
right
word,
but
they
have
the
built-in
administrative
backbone.
A
I
mean
I
think
we
just
have
have
to
I.
Think
that's
a
good
point,
because
I
just
want
us
to
make
sure
that
we're
doing
something
that
actually
works,
because
there's
no
point
in
legislating
nothing's
going
to
happen
right.
I
G
I
would
just
add
that
I'm
I'm
not
already
familiar
with
where
the
half
acre
lots
are
around
Beacon,
so
I'd
kind
of
want
to
get
a
sense
of
what
we're
at
what
areas
we're
actually
talking
about
when
we're
talking
about
where
we
want
to
either
through
permit
use
or
through
an
overlay,
District
open
this
up.
This
possibility.
H
I,
don't
have
that
generated.
I
did
look
at
the
parcel
access
today,
just
sort
of
skimming
around
the
city
to
where
half
acre
losses
over
where
and
there's
not
that
many
in
the
R1
districts.
But
there
are
few
and
they're
scattered
that
are
just
sort
of
here
and
there,
and
you
know
maybe
getting
back
to
the
original
question
in
terms
of
an
overlay
or
as
of
right.
H
You
could
make
it
as
of
right
in
certain
districts
and
you
know,
go
to
the
council
for
Lots
in
the
R1
district,
for
instance,
where
it
might
be
more
sensitive.
So
if
a
developer
wants
to
do
something
like
this
in
a
GB
or
An
Li
district,
there
probably
won't
be
that
much.
They
have
a
good
concerned,
but
if
it's
on
a
residential
street
it
just
happens
to
be
that
sort
of
one
big
lot.
That's
left!
H
H
You
could
retain
the
right
to
rezone
or
not
to
rezone,
depending
on
what
type
of
street
it
was
on,
and
so
therefore,
something
in
the
middle
of
a
lot
of
small
Lots
would
not
get
the
council's
favor
and
something
that
was
in
a
GB
District
or
a
li
District
or
in
a
in
a
more
Main
Street
sort
of
transitional
District
would
be
as
of
right
and
and
could
go
through
without
the
the
extra
level
of
review.
L
D
A
John,
you
did
a
raised
of
a
larger
lot,
so
let's
play
that
a
bit.
So
you
said:
there's
a
one
acre
lot.
You
actually
just
was
in
the
planning
board
right
right
and
the
Zoning
for
that
one
acre
lot
was,
would
have
permitted
five
homes
right.
A
Right,
but
it
would
have
to
be
done
in
such
a
way
that
you
know
whatever
the
construction
costs,
because
it's
you
know
several
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
build
a
unit.
Now
from
looking
at
what
I'm,
seeing
on
other
projects
to
be
able
to
afford
that
the
Builder
and,
depending
on
the
Ami,
the
lower
the
Ami,
the
more
support
that
you're
going
to
need
to
do
it,
because
if
you
say
whatever
the
rent
is,
if
it's
cut
in
half
it's
like,
and
how
do
you
build
right?
So
we're
not
going
to
get
anywhere.
A
So
what
do
you
think
the
number
would
have
to
be?
Would
it
have
to
be
something
like
10?
Would
it
have
to
be
something
like
20
John
and
a
lot
like
that
to
make
work
and
I
know
you
don't
know
those
numbers
I
think
that's
one
of
the
things
we'll
have
to
learn,
but
I'm
just
wondering
what
you
think
the
ballpark
is.
H
H
So
we
could
go
down
that
try
to
go
back
down
that
list
and
see
if
step
by
step,
you
can
make
those
decisions
percent,
for
instance,
for
a
half
acre
lot
based
on
a
couple
of
units
per
acre
that
were
thrown
out
in
this
decision
tree.
The
middle
would
be
eight
units
for
a
half
that
bigger
lot
and
the
maximum
would
be
14
units,
so
in
that
range
8
to
14
units
on
a
half
acre
lot.
L
A
L
Right,
if
they
have,
you
know,
funding
yeah.
A
You
know
I'm
just
listening
to
the
numbers
and
it's
just
like
I'm,
not
sure
how
much
support
we
would
have
for
numbers
like
that
in
a
single-family
neighborhood.
A
We're
just
you
know,
that's
why
I'm
asking
I'm
just
trying
to
learn
right
because
I
don't
think
and
I'm
the
one
interested
in
applying
it
as
broadly
as
possible,
I'm
just
trying
to
hear
what
it
means
in
a
neighborhood
and
wondering
you
know
how
particular
residents
would
respond
to
a
proposal
like
that
and
it's
I
think
it
will
be.
Concerning
of
folks.
D
H
Generally
speaking,
that's
what
you
would
find
across
the
board
and
they
would
potentially
need
the
least
amount
of
subsidy,
because
there's
a
lot
of
seniors
who
are
looking
to
downsize
and
have
equity.
H
So
you
can
get
affordable
housing
as
well
as
market
rate
housing
within
this
District,
because
there's
there's
a
need
for
a
demographic
that
is
not
being
supplied
with
options
when
they
have
a
empty
nest.
Household.
A
H
H
You
know:
Dan
had
an
interesting
idea.
I
thought
when
he
said
you
know
have
an
average
of
70
am
I
so
that
the
developers
can
put
in
some
50
some
60s
some
80,
some
100..
H
I
A
Wow
so
I'm,
just
I
just
did
the
math,
so
fifty
thousand
dollars
is
about
four
thousand
dollars
a
month.
That's
forty,
eight
thousand
a
year
and
I
think
the
way
the
Ami
would
work.
You
take
30
percent
of
that
four
thousand
dollars
right,
and
that
puts
you
twelve
hundred
dollars
as
maximum
rent
and
I'm.
You
know.
K
D
K
A
L
Right,
but
you
know
we
have:
we
have
a
state,
that's
generously,
funded
and
well
sort
of
divided
on
the
housing
issue.
Actually,
but
but
there
are,
there
are
programs
out
there,
but
I
hear
what
you're
saying
is
that
you
know
to
make
it
happen.
You
want
to
reduce
the
barriers.
D
L
But
then,
but
then,
if
you
reduce
the
barriers
and
they
make
it
happen,
then
that's
where
you
know
the
the
voices
of
our
neighbors,
who
don't
really
want
to
see
that
happen
come
in
and
I
think
that
some
I,
don't
think
Dan
would
mind
me
saying
reiterating
again.
You
know
that
if
it's,
if
it's
very
affordable
and
it's
solving
the
the
issue
that
there's
no
housing
for
people
who
are
renting
and
earning
below
fifty
thousand
dollars
a
year,
then
many
of
us
would
be
quite
happy
to
see
more
density.
L
K
A
And
you
know
we
especially
want
to
maintain
our
tax
base
and
other
things
I
think
we
need
to
mix
the
housing
and
to
Simply
say
no
to
anything
except
you
know
affordable
at
the
50
Ami
level,
because
basically
inviting
kind
of
fiscal
difficulties
and
I
just
think
we
need
to
be
careful.
It's
taken
us
a
long,
long
time
to
get
Beacon
to
its
financial
situation.
A
lot
of
it
has
to
do
with
the
new
construction
and
the
part
of
the
tax
base
that
came
with
it
and
I.
Just
think.
A
A
I
I
Ami
I
think
that
what
I'm
trying
to
gear
and
head
this
conversation
towards
is
prioritizing
50,
Ami
and
I'm
just
trying
to
think
through
and
talk
through
with
you
all
what
exactly
that
looks
like,
and
how
can
we
get
there
because
that's
where
the
county
has
said
our
need
is,
and
the
data
so
far
has
said.
Our
need
is.
A
So
can
I
suggest
a
next
step
is
that
we
review
the
county
study
collectively
at
a
meeting,
and
we
use
that
for
discussion
on
what
gaps
we
might
have
identified
because
I
I
think
not.
Everyone
is
familiar
with
that
and
I
think
we
should
just
take
a
look
at
those
numbers
all
right.
K
I
think
that
we
should
definitely
have
the
county
study
on
next
workshops
agenda,
but
John
did
also
mention
a
decision
tree
to
go
through
for
an
affordable
housing.
Overlay
and
I
would
love
to
just
explore
that
and
see
what
that
might
look
like
yeah
and
we've
got.
M
I
I,
don't
know
I,
don't
think
this
was
covered
in
the
housing
study,
but
I
I
am
recognizing
that
we
are
also
talking
a
lot
about
the
particulars
of
financing
and
I.
Don't
know
if
it
would
be
helpful
to
get
a
perspective.
I
I
know
that
we
got
some
information
about
inclusionary.
Zoning
broadly
I
forget
from
his
name
was
but
I
don't
know
if
it
would
be
helpful
Doug
if
it
would
be
helpful
to
have
that
be
a
part
of
our
next
discussion
as
well.
K
A
Yeah
I
had
a
phone
call
follow-up
with
Doug
I
have
an
email
I
can
forward
that
summarized
it.
Maybe
we
can
get
him
to
attend
as
well,
but
I
think
CPC
has
a
vast
amount
of
knowledge
in
this
space
and
has
done
a
lot
of
good
work
so
happy
to
and
I'll
I'll
fish
out
the
email.
I
Yeah
I
just
don't
want
us
to
get
stopped
by
the
need
for
State
funding
to
make
things
happen
if
State
funding's
on
the
table,
for
example,
but
understanding
all
of
those
elements
I
think
will
help
us
understand
what
is
what's
the
best
option
for
us.
J
So
the
first
two
really
dealt
about
the
permitting
process,
which
I
think
we've
discussed
wherever
you
want
a
special
permit,
whether
you
want
to
be
an
overlay
as
I
understand,
I,
don't
think
you're
ready
to
tackle
that
question.
The
sense
I
get
is
that
your
interest
in
exploring
that,
knowing
that
the
underlying
zoning
has
certain
protections
within
it
that
the
planning
board
would
apply
and
be
mandatory,
is
it
sort
of
my
understanding?
The
third
question
we
had
was
about
age
restriction.
J
If
you
did,
you
want
to
reduce
it
from
the
current
code
of
62
to
something
unless
I
don't
know
that
you
need
to
dwell
too
much
on
that
tonight.
Give
him
where
we
are
in
the
additional
discussions
to
be
had,
but
if
you
want
to
make
it
more
units
and
more
broader
base
than
you
would
want
to
consider,
reducing
it
and
if
you're
doing
age
restriction
below
which
you
can
do
under
the
federal
law
is
55
you're.
Currently
at
62.
A
So,
to
the
extent
this
is
my
two
cents
that
we
look
at
something
senior
and
we
haven't.
We
will
do
that
exclusively
I'd
like
it
to
be
at
the
lower
age
group,
because
they
I
think
the
the
mechanics
would
be
that
if
someone
is
in
Beacon
has
family
that
has
now
grown
up
now
has
you
know,
is
an
empty
nester
being
able
to
go
to
something
smaller
opens
up
other
housing
in
the
city,
so
I'd,
just
as
soon
encourage
that
sooner
rather
than
later
so
I'd
be
okay
with
a
lower
age
group.
D
K
J
The
next
question
we
have
is
goes
to
the
density
that
you
start
to
touch
upon
and
we're.
The
second
question
that
follows:
that
is
the:
do
you
want
to
have
a
minimum
number
of
units?
So
the
first
question
is:
do
you
wish
to
increase
the
density
per
acre
from
the
current
limitation
so
for
senior
affordable?
J
M
J
This
is
question
number
four
in
our
decision
to
remember.
A
All
right,
so
my
my
reaction
again
I'll
give
other
people
time
to
consider.
It
would
I
think
we'd
have
to
tailor
it
by
the
underlying
zoning.
In
other
words,
if
it
were
an
R1
with
I,
don't
know
quarter
acre
zoning
and
it
was
a
one
acre
lot.
You
know
that
would
be
a
lesser
number
than
if
it's
in
the
T-Zone,
for
instance,.
D
A
J
A
Something
like
that,
give
it
a
range
right.
So
what
you
mean
by
a
multiplier
is,
let's
say
it's:
it's
r110,
so
that's
ten
thousand
square,
foot,
zoning
and
suppose
that's
the
zoning
and
it's
a
one
acre
lot.
So
that
would
say
for
that.
One
acre
lot:
zoning
with
permit
four,
and
maybe
the
multiplier
is
two.
So
then
it
becomes
eight
right.
J
D
A
J
D
D
J
Number
one
was:
did
you
want
it
to
be
an
overlay
zone,
or
did
you
want
to
be
a
permitted
use
within
the
zone
and
then
the
second
one
was?
Did
you
want
it
to
be
a
special
permit,
use
or
just
go
straight
for
site
plan
approval,
and
my
summary
of
a
response
to
that
is
that
I
got
the
sense
that
the
council
was
okay
with
removing
those
criterias
and
let
it
being
a
permitted
use
and
not
a
special
permit
and
only
require
site
plan
approval
from
the
planning
board.
J
So
it's
making
sure
that
what
you
want,
the
Ami
and
everything
and
some
of
the
minimum
unit
sizes
and
items
of
that
nature
are
reflected
in
the
text
of
the
zoning
itself.
So
those
first
two
were
sort
of.
Where
do
you
want
it?
And
what
role
do
you
want
the
city
council
to
have,
because
again,
those
all
relate
to
affordability
in
terms
of
the
cost
of
developers
and
and
giving
a
developer?
The
sense
that
the
city
wants
this
and
here's
the
process.
J
The
fourth
and
fifth
question
relate
to
the
density,
the
density
being.
How
many
units
do
you
want
to
allow
dwelling
use?
Do
you
want
to
allow
the
concept
is
here
you're
trying
to
create
affordable
ones?
The
developers
want
to
be
subsidizing
that,
because
they're
going
to
be
receiving
less
rent,
so
you
would
allow
them
to
have
more
units
So
currently
in
the
senior
affordable
housing
overlay
District.
J
It's
four
units
per
gross
acre
and
John
and
I
had
looked
at
some
other
zoning
districts
to
see
what
is
the
current
you
dwelling,
you
is
permitted
per
acre
and
in
the
T
District
it's
17
dwelling
units
per
acre
and
in
the
GB
in
the
Ally
districts
to
the
29
units
per
acre.
A
So
the
multiplier
concept,
because
you
asked
to
have
it
repeated,
is
it
would
depend
on
the
zoning.
So
the
example
was
an
r110
Zone
which
would
allow.
A
K
D
A
It's
12
if
the
multiplier
is
three
right,
but
in
another
Zone-
and
you
know
r140,
which
is
one
house
per
acre-
that
same
multiplier
would
be
three
instead
of
well
12
right.
So
I
and
I
I
think
that
might
be
a
correct
concept,
because
you
know
when
you
say
something
like
17
to
an
acre
and
we're
looking
at.
You
know:
streets
of
all
single-family
homes,
I'm,
not
sure
you're,
going
to
find
a
lot
of
support,
or
you
know
feeling
that
that
that's
a
fit
right.
A
D
A
A
There
may
be
opportunity
for
state
land
to
open
up
and
again
that's
kind
of
the
only
significant
land
that
I
know
of
it's
not.
You
know
directly
adjacent
to
Main
Street,
but
it
is
open
land.
So
it
depends
on
our
priorities
and
whether
we
can
do
a
transportation
plan
or
we
can
get
the
appropriate
can
I
access
the
right
way.
So.
J
And
then
we
have
a
question:
is
the
current
code
for
senior,
affordable
housing
overlay
District
requires
that
a
minimum
of
20
dwelling
units
be
constructed?
So
do
you
want
to
reduce
that
and
we've
thrown
in
this
decision
tree?
Do
you
want
to
keep
it
at
a
minimum
of
2012
units,
15,
10
or
6.,
or
some
other
number,
of
course,
but.
D
I
A
I'm,
taking
them
out
of
order
also,
this
is
really
good,
because
it
needs
to
be
a
very
broad
discussion
at
first
and
it's
going
to
take
us
a
little
while
to
kind
of
get
around
or
get
our
arms
around
where
we
think
we
want
to
head
it's
perfectly
okay
to
be
general
for
a
while
I
think.
It's
just
fine.
J
So
the
question
six
that
you'll
read
at
some
point:
yes,
does
the
city
wish
to
establish
a
minimum
or
maximum
size
of
a
dwelling
unit?
Then
we've
added
a
discussion
here
right.
Besides
the
dwelling
unit
impact,
it's
affordability,
the
small
unit
size,
the
greater
opportunity
exists
for
additional
units.
Alternatively,
small
units
may
not
be
what
the
market
is
dictating
and
similarly,
a
maximum
unit
size
would
ensure
that
the
greatest
number
of
units
could
be
constructed
per
acre.
J
I
I
have
a
question
about
because
one
of
the
effects
of
like
the
minimum
unit
size
is
what
style
of
living
we're
talking
about
and
I'm,
just
not
totally
clear
if
it
would
be
part
of
this
discussion
or
this
overlay
to
discuss.
If
we
are
interested
in
supporting
different
types
of
living
situations,
for
example,
rooming
houses
or
I,
think
when
John
was
proposing
the
these
micro
units
that
they
might
have
a
shared
kitchen
or
again
other
other
styles
of
living
situations.
J
Right
so
dwelling
unit
doesn't
definition
of
a
dwelling
unit.
Is
that
it's
all
contained
housekeeping,
including
a
kitchen.
So
you
would
have
to
then
modify
the
definition
to
allow
for
shared
cooking
facilities,
because
that
would
then
not
be
the
definition
of
a
dwelling
unit.
Right.
M
A
Second,
that
one,
you
know,
I
have
two
two
views
and.
A
Are
very
preliminary
I
think
we're
going
to
go
through
this
more
than
once
one
option
would
be
to
kind
of
not
have
any
restriction
on
size,
maximum
or
minimum.
Another
option
would
be
to
leave
it
to
the
planning
board.
You
know
in
deciding
fit
to
be
able
to
set
minimum
or
maximum
right
because
it
may
well
be
in
you
know:
you're
near
Main,
Street
and
some
kind
of
small
unit
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
K
A
G
With
that
in
mind,
I
don't
want
to
get
into
today,
but
the
first
two
things
about
how
much
is
as
of
right
versus,
not
I,
feel
like
a
lot
of
the
times.
When
I
listen
to
planning
board
discussion,
it
sounds
like
they
sometimes
feel
they
are
restricted
by
well,
that's
as
of
Rights.
So
if
this
fits,
we
have
to
allow
it.
We
can't
not
allow
it,
and
so,
but
it
sounds
like
now
we're
talking
about
some
things
like
we
want
to
take
them.
G
We
want
to
give
them
the
power
to
take
into
account
the
dynamic
of
the
neighborhood
or
even
the
block
or
the
slope
or
whatever
it
is
that
that
impacts
that
or
the
size
of
the
street,
or
something
and
so
I'm
just
curious
from
a
legal
perspective.
How
we
do
that
also
in
a
way
the
planning
board
feels
they
can
apply.
I
don't
want
to
give
them
something
they're
like
I,
don't
know
what
to
do
with
this.
So.
A
You
know
and
there's
two
two
examples
that
have
been
in
front
of
the
planning.
You
know.
Probably
all
aware
of
you
know
one
is
the
subdivision
of
the
five
homes
and
a
lot
of
it
was
not
fit
so
much
as
the
ability
to
it's
the
subdivision
plan
and
that's
what
the
planning
board
was
assessing
there's
a
different
one.
J
J
But
I
think
one
of
the
topics
to
remember
discussions,
I
think
more
towards
the
end.
As
you
start
shaping.
This
is
what
flexibility
does
the
playing
board
have
and
also
what's
mandatory
upon
the
planning
board
so
that
you
fit
into
those
Pockets,
because
there's
some
things
that
you
want
and
some
things
in
which
you
want
to
give
to
the
discretion.
K
J
A
note
of
that,
so
we
can
sort
of
work
that
in
the
next
one
is.
Does
the
city
council
wish
to
lower
parking
requirements
for
senior
affordable
housing
project
currently
for
senior,
affordable
housing
project?
It's
1.2
spaces
per
dwelling
unit
and
John
and
I
were
discussing
something
you
know
reducing
it
to
1
to
0.75
to
0.50
or
level
playing
board.
Have
the
discretion
determine
what
it
should
be?
Maybe
if
it's
close
to
the
main
street,
they
would
say
nothing.
Maybe
if
it's
further
out,
they
would
want
some
parking
available.
J
H
All
right,
yeah
eight,
is
the
question
right
now
the
the
senior
affordable
housing
Zone
requires
100
of
the
units
be
designated
as
affordable.
So
it's
only
designed
for
projects
that
have
large
subsidies
and
are
completely
affordable,
and
it
seems
to
me,
if
we're
going
to
make
this
more
flexible,
we
would
want
to
reduce
that
number
of
the
percentage.
H
So
you
might
have
a
more
privately
subsidized
project
where
you
could
have
enough
units,
private
units,
market
rate
units
to
help
subsidize
the
affordable
ones
and,
and
that
way
you'd
end
up
getting
more
projects
in
the
pipeline.
H
H
H
It
doesn't
Target
the
lower
income
people
who
are
50
60
of
median
income,
so
the
the
last
one
is
what
percentage
of
Ami
you
want
to
bring
it
down
to
the
affordable,
Workforce
housing
Provisions
that
we
have
on
the
books
now
are
70
percent.
That
seems
to
have
worked.
Well,
it's
it's
hasn't
restricted
the
number
of
available
tenants.
H
So
that
would
be
one
model
you
could
go
lower
to
50
or
60
percent.
You
could
also
Dan
suggestions,
I
think
at
the
last
Workshop
that
you
come
in
with
an
average,
so
there
was
no
set.
When
you
do
100,
you
tend
to
get
all
your
tenants
or
90
you're
100.
You
know
they
they're
up
at
the
higher
range,
because
it's
easier
to
find
more
people
that
can
afford
to
do
it
and
pass
that
the
background
checks
and
everything
they
have
to
do.
H
When
you
move
further
down
the
line,
it
becomes
a
little
harder,
perhaps
because
you
have
less
people
who
fit
into
that
maximum
or
minimum.
So
that's
two
extra
questions
you
have
to
consider.
L
D
H
My
memory
of
and
I
haven't
looked
at
the
house
at
Dutchess,
County
House
housing
needs
assessment
for
a
few
months.
My
memory
is
that
they,
when
they
looked
at.
H
So
you
know
that
housing
needs
assessment
at
least
suggests
that
Beacon
is
covering
the
lower
end
of
the
spectrum
fairly
well
compared
to
everywhere
else,
and
that
we
might
look
at
a
more
flexible
model
where
you
had
a
range
of
of
Ami
levels.
I
The
the
graph
did
for
beacons
specifically
did
point
out
that
lower
that
we
are
doing
okay
between
fifty
thousand
dollars
and
I.
Think
up
to
75
wait
is
that
yeah
75
plus,
maybe
more
anyway,
the
highest
end
we're
having
a
hard
time
and
Below
50
000
we're
having
a
hard
time
in
Beacon,
specifically
according
to
the
county,
absolutely.
M
A
H
Was
surprising
to
me
that
they
were
only
saying
we
should
have
five
interventions
over
the
next
I
can't
remember
the
period,
but
whereas
places
like
Poughkeepsie
and
Fishkill
and
East
Fishkill
had
30
some.
So
it
was
obviously
targeting
the
more
Suburban
communities
because
they
didn't
have
any
Supply.
Their
fair
share
was
very
low
compared
to
Beacon.
L
It's
a
lot
of
formula
for
the
fair
share
that
was
based
on
four
things,
so
I'll
I'll
bring
that
back.
So.
A
That
I
can
understand
how
that
number
got.
So
here's
what
I
hear,
which
is
we
started
talking
about
senior,
but
we've
also
morphed
into
kind
of
the
broader
discussion
we
might
want
to
do
an
overlay
or
not.
We
we
may
limit.
K
A
D
A
And
we
also
have
to
get
them
to
sink
in
right
because
we're
just
getting
used
to
the
ideas.
So
if
that's
okay,
yeah.
I
We
are
having
a
hard
time
with
this
topic,
with
a
lot
of
context
and
framing,
and
so
I
want
to
make
sure
it
is
set
according
to
our
current
schedule,
and
we
can
obviously
change
it
if
we
want
to
to
launch
in
two
weeks,
which
means
that
we
would
have
to
have
a
framing
question
and
context
at
by
our
next
Workshop,
which
I
I
don't
have
a
specific
proposal
for
everybody,
but
just
wanted
to
throw
that
out
to
the
rest
of
council
to
be
to
be
thinking
about.
G
I
think
actually,
this
question
that
Lee
was
kind
of
getting
at
around.
What
would
you
find
acceptable
in
your
neighborhood?
That's
not
the
right
wording
for
it,
but
what
would
you?
What
would
you
want
in
your
neighborhood?
What
are
your
concerns?
What
kind
of
housing
would
you
be
open
to
and
what
what
would
you
have
some
challenges
with
I
think
getting
some
feedback
around
that
worded
a
lot
better
than
I
did
I.
I
Think
yeah
I
think
we
would
want
it
to
be
focused
again.
One
of
our
criteria
for
our
questions
is
that
it
has
to
be
Solutions
oriented.
We
want
to
be
having
suggestions
that
are
based
off,
that
are
that
are
generative
I
mean
not
exclusionary.
I
So
we
have
to
make
sure
that
the
question
is
Being
Framed
in
the
correct
way
for
that.
But
yes,.
D
A
Same
thing,
okay,
so
there
is
one
other
item.
I
think
we
need
to
do
a
short
executive
session
to
on
a
couple
of
quick
topics,
personnel
and
contracts.
Yes,
would
that
be?
Okay,
so
can
I
get
a
motion
to
go
to
Executive
session
on
personnel
and
contracts.