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From YouTube: Beacon Council Workshop 2-6-23
Description
The City of Beacon Council Workshop from February 6, 2023
A
Hey
everyone:
let's
start
up
it's
a
workshop,
so
we
don't
have
to
do
anything
formal
just
in
terms
of
who's.
Here,
I
see
five
council
members
in
person,
Ren
called
in
and
is
excused
and
then
I
see.
Paloma
online
I
see
Chris
White,
that's
the
administrator
in
person
and
I,
see
well
I.
Think
I
see
the
City
attorney
online.
Yes,.
A
All
right,
okay,
so
first
thing
we
want
to
do
tonight
is
the
survey
on
Recreation
and
Community
facilities
and
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
Mark
Price.
Thank
you,
you're,
going
to
introduce
Dan,
Biggs
I.
C
Am
okay
good
evening
everyone
so
we're
here
tonight
we
have
our
final
report
for
the
community
facility
and
program
report.
If
you'll
remember
last
year's
budgeting
process,
we
set
aside
some
money
for
some
some
Consulting
to
do
a
community
survey
and
inventory
of
current
conditions
and
and
places
to
do
things
and-
and
you
know
finalize
that
with
the
report
that
you
know
sort
of
gives
us
some
some
tools
to
look
ahead
to
the
Future.
C
So
in
March
of
2022
we
selected
Weston
and
Samson
as
our
consultant
for
this
project
and
got
right
to
work
after
that
in
the
months
following
we
were
able
to
map
and
and
inventory
our
current
programs
and
Facilities
here
in
Beacon.
C
You
know,
beyond
that
we
took
on
a
community
survey
and
did
our
best
to
reach
all
of
Beacon.
You
know
and
I
think
we
had
just
under
a
thousand
surveys
which
I
was
pretty
proud
to
get
to
that
point.
It
would
have
been
great
to.
E
C
It
was
a
good
stopping
point.
We
took
those
tools
and
Weston
and
Sampson.
You
know
looked
at
National
Trends
and
basically
created
this
report,
which
we
have
to
you
tonight
in
almost
final
draft.
So
you
know,
but
Dan's
gonna
walk
us
through
sort
of
the
highlights
or
or
sort
of
bigger
points
of
it.
C
I
will
tell
you
it
was
with
the
help
of
our
community,
anyone
that
that
you
know
I
sort
of
partnered
with
in
Recreation
programs
and
Community
programs
that
help
get
the
word
out
about
the
survey
and
and
sort
of
help
us,
you
know,
compile
the
list
of
current.
You
know,
conditions
and
places
and
programs,
so
I
thank
the
community
for
their
support
and
and
helping
us
get
there
and
I.
Think
you'll
you'll
find
it's
a
pretty
pretty
good
report.
C
It's
thorough
it
sort
of
speaks
to
the
landscape
currently
in
Beacon
as
far
as
programs
and
places
to
to
hold
programs
and-
and
you
know,
gives
us
some
recommendations,
moving
forward
based
on
National
standards
and
and
what
the
community
said.
You
know
that
was
the
biggest
overlay
in
this
is
what
what
our
community
was
looking
for.
Moving
ahead
in
the
future
and
I
think
that's
all
I
really
have
currently
I
will
introduce
Dan
Biggs
with
Weston
and
Sampson,
and
it
was
he
and
his
team
that
that
put
this
together
for
us.
F
Well,
thank
you
for
having
me
back.
It's
been
hasn't
been
a
full
year,
but
it
seemed
like
a
full
year.
We've
done
a
lot
of
work
in
this
project
and
tonight
I'm
going
to
summarize
what
our
findings
were,
but
first
give
you
some
background
as
to
how
we
got
to
the
solutions
recommendations
on
this
project.
Ben
next
slide
next
slide
again.
F
So
our
process
as
I
explained
a
couple
months
ago.
We
really
start
with
a
kickoff
meeting
looking
at
what
is
in
the
community
right
now
from
a
programs
and
facility
standpoint,
and
as
Mark
mentioned,
we
reached
out
to
the
public
and
I'll
cover
through
some
of
the
needs
assessments
and
the
survey
data
that
we
had
also
looking
at
was
a
demographic.
F
What
is
the
community
made
out
of
that
really
informs
us
as
to
what
do
you
want
to
look
forward
for
now
and
into
the
future,
for
your
programs
and
Facilities
with
a
fairly
thorough
public
Outreach
process
which
will
share
the
results
of
that
and
that
really
came
back
to
develop?
What
recommations
are
in
our
draft
master
plan
and
find
we're
here
tonight
to
talk
about
the
final
master
plan
in
almost
draft
or
almost
complete
format?
Next
slide,
please.
F
So
the
master
plan
really
is
the
process
we
went
through
of
the
multiple
chapters.
It
won't
reiterate
these
again,
but
really
step
by
step
really
goes
through
the
process
we
went
through
looking
as
to
where
you
are
now
and
where
you
can
go
to
the
Future.
F
A
number
of
the
penalties
have
the
backup
as
to
the
presentations
that
we
gave
here
to
you
a
couple
months
ago,
as
well
as
a
survey
summary
from
our
online
survey
and
the
data
received
for
any
backup
that
you're
looking
for
and
finally
the
working
documents
from
Mark
and
his
team
to
look
at
what
we
inventored
in
in
the
field.
So,
as
you
make
improvements,
moving
forward,
Mark
can
go
back.
F
Do
the
same
inventory
that
we
did
to
Mark
as
to
where
improvements
Are,
Made
It
really
used
us
as
a
working
document
to
move
forward
to
make
improvements
to
the
city's
facilities
and
programs.
And
finally,
we
have
a
couple
concept
plans
for
each
of
the
park
facilities,
that's
a
guide
from
Mark
and
his
team
as
to
where
improvements
can
be
made
and
more
specifics
to
as
he's
moving
forward
in
the
planning
and
design
process
next
slide.
F
So
first
we
want
to
talk
a
little
about
the
demographics
I'm
not
going
to
go
into
too
much
of
the
details
here,
but
as
we
were
looking
over
Beacon
and
who
is
Beacon,
some
of
the
data
we
found
was
that
you
can
see
on
the
right
hand,
side
of
the
screen.
A
majority
of
the
population
is
between
20
and
60
years
old.
F
That's
probably
not
too
much
a
surprise,
but
those
spikes
in
the
middle
of
the
graph
really
shows
as
to
who
is
here
now
and
who's
going
to
be
here
for
the
future.
So
how
do
we
plan
and
program
for
these
users
to
want
to
use
more
beacons
facilities
and
have
the
right
programs
in
line
for
the
needs
of
the
community?
F
Within
our
survey
we
had
about
60
of
Caucasian
responses
and
26
Hispanic
with
the
others
in
between
with
that.
That's
that's
good
data
to
know
as
to
who
actually
responded.
So
if
we
do
a
survey
again-
and
we
have
know
who
we're
reaching
out
to,
we
can
compare
this
to
see-
are
we
reaching
out
to
more
population?
Are
the
numbers
going
to
change,
but
really
it's
a
staying
point
for
Mark
and
his
team
to
know?
How
do
we
do
in
this
process?
F
And
how
can
we
do
better
in
the
future
next
slide?
Please
we
look
back
also
as
to
how
speaking
doing
in
terms
of
population
is
it
growing.
Is
it
is
it
shrinking?
As
you
can
see
here,
from
2000
2020,
the
compound
annual
growth
was
about
point
zero,
two
percent,
but
from
2020
to
2022
we
actually
had
an
increase
of
0.37.
We
compared
this
back
to
some
of
your
other
data
from
the
other
studies
it's
fairly
comparable.
F
We
looked
at
Mark
in
the
Department's
funding,
really
looking
at
the
trends
and
looking
back
at
2015
data
all
the
way
through
2022,
and
from
that
you
can
see
that
the
budget
has
nearly
tripled
in
in
over
the
course
of
this
time
period.
That
is
pretty
significant
to
note
that,
while
you
have
had
investment,
we'll
see
that
the
program
numbers
and
the
users
have
really
increased
throughout
this
duration,
there's
a
little
blip
in
there
for
that
covet,
Factor
2020.
F
We
see
that
fairly
as
a
anomaly
in
your
numbers,
but
fairly
flat,
but
again,
looking
back
at
how
you're
currently
seeing
enrollment
your
numbers
for
the
after-school
program
are
significant
and
that's
about
60
percent
of
your
total
revenue
for
the
Departments
funding
next
slide.
Please
I'm!
Still
looking
at
public
engagement,
we
had
a
multi-pronged
approach.
F
We
first
started
off
in
early
July,
which
I
think
some
several
members
of
the
council
were
a
part
of
to
really
reach
out
and
have
focused
group
meetings,
and
this
was
a
chance
for
us
to
reach
out
and
have
conversations
hear
about
specifics
within
the
community.
That
informed
us
informed
us
on
how
we
should
present
our
public
agent
process
and
develop
our
online
survey
from
that
point
forward.
F
Mark
reached
out
to
sever
several
contacts
within
the
community
to
really
have
a
public
Outreach
process
using
your
local
sports
and
recreation
groups,
your
other
community
societies
and
associations
to
really
reach
out
to
and
have
a
contact
in
the
field
to
share
this
survey.
So
throughout
the
summer
there
was
stand
set
up
at
multiple
the
spirit
Beacon
day.
All
the
way
down
to
the
farmer's
market.
Halloween
party
I
just
have
a
table
where
people
can
continue
to
give
feedback.
F
Most
of
the
responses
was
pretty
equal
throughout
the
four
Awards,
which
is
good
to
see
over
half
identified
as
female
over
half
had
couples
with
a
child,
so
average
households
around
three
persons,
I
mentioned
74,
are
identified
as
white
or
Caucasian
in
over
half
of
those
that
responded
physicistly
once
a
week,
which
is
good
to
hear
us
that
we
were
actually
getting
responses
from
people
that
are
using
facilities
and
programs
so
that
their
input
really
is
valued
As.
You
move
forward
in
this
process
next
slide.
Please.
F
F
Almost
80
percent
believe
that
the
overall
Park
ratings
were
SAS,
Factory
or
above
70
percent
of
responses
said
that
there
was
a
need
for
a
new
or
expanded
Community
Center,
just
over
half
preferred
a
Central,
Community
location
and
teenagers,
and
children
were
the
demographic
that
most
felt
that
that
could
best
serve
as
you
see
on
the
right
hand,
side
of
the
screen.
F
We
have
a
word
cloud
here
as
to
some
of
the
words
that
were
given
responses
given
to
what
programs
activities
do
you
or
your
household
typically
engage
in
in
the
city
of
Beacon,
Parks
and
Recreation
facilities
and
the
larger?
The
word
was
the
more
frequent
that
that
word
was
responded
to.
So
you
can
see
hiking
playgrounds,
walking,
soccer
swimming
picnics
running
and
down
the
lists,
so
a
pretty
good
response
in
terms
of
the
variety
that
we
were
hearing
from
how
users
are
using
beacons
parks.
Next
slide.
F
Some
of
the
other
put
input
that
we
got.
In
summary,
we
asked
users
to
give
us
a
level
of
importance
for
the
facilities
and
programs
that
they
use
and
what
we
want
to
see
moving
forward
into
the
next
decade.
So
the
top
three
facilities
in
order
of
importance
were
open:
space
and
natural
spaces,
Community
neighborhood
parks
and
trails
and
pathways.
F
If
you
think
about
that,
that
kind
of
includes
everything
that
you
have
within
the
city,
but
some
of
the
top
three
items
that
were
desired
to
be
addressed,
one
was
to
expand.
Community
programs
and
activities,
develop
a
new
community
recreation
center
or
centers,
and
preserve
open
space
and
land
acquisition.
F
The
top
three
facilities
to
improve
and
expand
trails
and
Pathways
additional
improvements
to
restrooms
came
up
often
as
well
as
a
new
community
center.
We
also
asked
about
facilities.
In
addition,
we
asked
about
programs,
so
the
top
three
programs
to
provide
expand.
One
was
Environmental,
Education,
nature,
programs,
music
and
art
in
the
Parks
and
as
well
as
programs
for
teenagers.
F
F
Many
asked
to
have
improved
communication
and,
finally,
adding
more
programs
in
events,
and
these
last
two
are
fairly
open-ended,
because
if
you
look
at
some
of
the
stats
about
communication,
many
said
that
they
believed
there
was
good
communication.
So
not
everyone
was
always
going
to
be
happy
about
Communication
in
terms
of
Parks
and
Recreation.
Some
prefer
online.
Some
want
paper.
Some
want
just
more
many
say
that
they
get
Communication
in
their
emails
all
times.
So
it's
a
balance.
F
There's
no
there's
no
happy
medium
in
there,
but
ongoing
communication
really
is
a
strategy
moving
forward.
We
asked
for
the
top
three
communication
methods
and
no
surprise
many
use
the
city
website.
Social
media
is
high
on
the
list
as
well
as
emails,
so
those
three
mechanisms
we
suggest
moving
forward,
continuing
at
the
programs
doing
Recreation
programs
doing
to
reach
out
to
public
for
current
and
future
users.
F
Next
slide,
we
looked
at
the
of
users
within
Beacon's
Recreation
programs,
the
graph
on
the
bottom.
You
see
just
the
growth
over
the
last
several
years
since
2018
you've
more
than
doubled
registrations
simply
within
the
last
year.
That's
that's
impressive,
as
a
program.
I
think
that
I
I'm
squinting
by
about
2100
users
in
2022
and
the
last
I
heard
that
you
have
full
enrollment
in
your
current
programs
and
there's
a
need
for
more
programs
and
possibly
more
Staffing,
to
support
that
moving
forward.
F
Finally,
looking
at
the
stats
on
the
right
hand,
side
of
the
top
graph
we
looked
at
registrations
and
how
they
compare
to
the
different
age
breakdowns.
You
can
see
that
the
users
from
0
to
10
have
9.4
percent
and
increase
all
the
way
up
to
sorry
13
for
31
to
40
year
olds.
So,
looking
at
the
stats,
more
than
half
of
your
users
are
a
zero
ten
age
demographic
which
is
about
9.4
percent
of
your
current
population.
F
F
We
assess
again
the
recreation
programs
I'm
just
looking
at
satisfaction,
how
do
people
or
what's
their
beliefs
on
the
programs
and
what's
offered,
as
you
can
see
in
the
upper
left-hand,
Corner
outstanding
and
satisfactory,
were
very
high
with
23.76
percent
perspectives.
Users
say:
there's
needs
for
improvement,
so
overall
the
programs
offered
are
very
well
received.
F
You
can
see
on
the
right
hand,
top
right
hand,
side.
The
SAS
action
number
of
recreation
programs
offered.
Many
believe
that
should
be
more
programs
offered,
but
it's
pretty
close
to
balance
overall
with
how
the
program
currently
are
offered
within
the
city
and
the
graph
on
the
bottom.
We
asked:
how
satisfied
are
you
with
shouldn't?
Say
area
should
say:
are
you
with
events?
You
and
your
household
have
attended
or
participated,
and
you
can
see
the
majority
there
are
SAS
Factory
or
better.
F
How
satisfied
are
you
with
classes
or
activities
again,
similar
metrics
for
over
50
percent
of
users
believe
that
they
have
used
classes
for
the
last
two
years
and
very
satisfied?
And
finally,
clubs
or
leagues
within
the
household
within
the
last
two
years
again
over
a
majority
of
users,
are
satisfied
with
the
current
program
offerings
next
slide.
F
So
while
we
asked
what
are
errors
to
improve
the
recreation
Service
delivery
within
the
city,
the
top
responses
got
are
over
30
percent
of
responses.
The
first
is
condition
and
maintenance
of
parks
and
Community
facilities.
This
is
not
really
too
much
of
the
prize.
It's
a
pretty
common
Trend,
especially
when
you
have
an
older
City
with
some
dated
facilities.
F
Next
improved
communication
about
offerings,
35
lighting
within
Parks,
more
Community
facilities
and
amenities
and
more
Community
programs,
so
you're,
starting
to
see
a
trend
here
with
many
want
more
communication
or
better
communication,
as
well
as
new
facilities.
That
may
be
dated
in
more
programs
which
basically
is
framing
up
for
recognitions
here
in
the
next
step.
F
F
We
suggest
reviewing
your
current
program
offerings
and
just
annually,
so,
although
you
may
have
a
club
or
a
program,
that's
been
offered
for
many
years.
It's
always
good
to
revisit
that
to
see.
Is
it?
Are
you
getting
the
same
performance
or
seeing
registrations,
as
you
had
historically?
Is
there
anomalies
that
you
may
want
to
adjust
that
and
adjust
direct
your
staff
to
better
use
of
resources?
F
We're
often
hearing
the
access
to
athletic
fields
for
existing
in
new
user
groups
is
a
common
Trend.
So,
for
example,
if
there's
a
rugby
need
or
flag
football,
they
may
not
feel
or
believe
that
they
have
proper
access
to
a
historically
used
soccer
field
or
football
field.
So
you
may
want
to
just
look
at
that
and
reassess
that
with
different
leagues
and
different
clubs
to
make
sure
there's
equal
access
to
different
facility
uses
by
new
and
growing
programs
and
if
I,
finally
look
at
communication
and
funding
for
maintenance.
F
F
So
when
we
looked
at
the
facilities
We
compare,
we
looked
at
all
them
gave
every
single
facility
component
a
recommendation
or
a
rating
to
highlight
the
strengths
of
your
facilities.
You
have
a
highly
utilized
Park
system.
Many
users
out
there
of
all
different
users
needs
and
wants
I
mean
a
variety
of
passive
and
active
facilities,
meaning
you
have
Active
Sports
Fields,
all
the
way
down
to
a
walking
passive,
Trails
or
simply
places
to
picnic
in
the
lawn
I
mean
facilities
for
a
wide
variety
of
age
ranges
and
interests,
which
is
great.
F
There
is
a
need
for
maintenance
and
Improvement
implementation
of
improvement
projects.
You
have
a
couple
projects
that
you
have
already
designed
in
your
pockets
that
those
are
strengths.
They
can
bring
those
forward
when
the
funding
is
available,
and
you
have
great
Partnerships
with
public
and
private
providers
we
reached
out
to
other
providers
within
the
community.
F
The
school
district
had
great
things
to
say
about
engagement
with
the
recreation
department
and
that
relationship
and
that's
really
a
strength
moving
forward
so
that
you
all
don't
take
the
burden
on
it
on
all
the
program
needs
but
really
work
with
your
partners
to
implement
those
within
the
city
with
every
project
there's
needs
for
improvements.
I
mentioned
a
lot
of
Maintenance
and
upgrades
specifically
Ada
accessibility.
F
Many
of
your
playgrounds
could
use
some
improvements.
There's
some
specific
drainage
issues
in
some
parks.
Just
simply
have
them
maintained
or
just
have
seen
better
Decades
of
use,
signage
away.
Finding
was
a
common
need
just
to
note
as
to
what
the
park
names
were
or
where
you
could
get
to
from
and
within
the
parks.
F
There
was
a
note
to
improve
lack,
there's,
a
lack
of
connection
between
some
of
your
Park
facilities
or
within
different
resources
within
parks
and,
finally,
Community
participation.
There's
a
possibility
of
having
more
public
engagement
to
make
improvements
to
your
park
with
other
groups,
other
associations,
so
the
burden
is
all
on
the
city
to
make
all
those
improvements
at
once
next
slide.
F
So,
in
general
terms,
for
all
the
report
that
we
noted
a
couple
high
level
recognitions
that
we
have
for
the
city,
the
first
is
there
is
a
high
need
for
Community
Center
within
the
city.
We
recommend
the
next
steps
to
take
to
develop
a
feasibility
study
to
assess
as
to
what
does
that
look
like
how
what
programs
can
be
met
within
one
common
facility.
Where
is
the
best
place
for
it?
F
F
There
is
always
an
idea
as
to
maintaining
facilities,
but
there's
we
want
to
acknowledge
that
not
every
facility
needs
a
same
level
of
maintenance.
For
example,
you
may
have
Lawns
throughout
the
city.
You
may
have
an
idea
of
a
nice
manicured
cut
lawn,
but
that
manicure
cut
lawn
doesn't
have
to
happen
everywhere.
There
could
be
other
areas
that
are
naturalized,
as
in
only
mode.
Every
third
mowing
period
versus
every
mowing
once
a
week
for
a
nice
turf
fields,
so
identifying
those
locations
can
also
be
a
cost
savings.
F
A
part
of
this
is
to
develop
a
plan
for
each
of
your
Park
spaces,
so
noting
as
to
worship.
Improvements
specifically
be
needed.
Where
do
you
want
to
have
those
Nomo
zones,
for
example,
or
re-striping,
for
a
new
sport
improving
as
to
growing
and
preserving
Open
Spaces
within
the
city,
improve
and
upgrade
existing
facilities
and
outdated
amenities
that
are
no
longer
meet
the
needs
of
Beacon,
for
example,
an
old
playground
that
may
have
a
teeter-totter
and
some
benches
really
doesn't
get
a
lot
of
use.
F
So
users,
don't
have
to
say,
drive
to
every
Park
if
they
want
to
enjoy
a
playground,
enjoy
tennis
courts,
Etc
and
finally
expand
the
use
of
the
school
district
facilities
and
Partnerships
with
other
user
groups
within
the
city
to
really
to
expand
that
and
embrace
as
to
what
you're
already
doing,
but
as
much
as
possible
share
the
need
and
experience
and
and
expertise
as
others
within
the
city
to
expand
beacons.
Recreation
programs,
that's
all
I,
have
Ben
next
slides.
F
I
think
this
is
a
lot
older
wow,
so
those
Generations
for,
but
for
in
the
report.
You'll
see
I
wanted
to
highlight
that
we
looked
at
every
park
facility.
We
give
recommendations
of
a
time
frame,
so
those
are
near
term
versus
long-term
needs
or
those
are
just
simply
ongoing
maintenance
requirements,
and
then
we
classified
each
recognitions
as
to
was
simply
a
compliance
or
maintenance
need
what
could
be
upgrade
and
what
could
be
comprehensive
reconstruction
for
a
park
facility
next
slide.
F
Some
concluding
thoughts,
as
you
can
see,
direct
the
investment
within
Recreation
program
is
significant
and
it
has
seen
nearly
three
times
the
budget
within
the
last
several
years,
which
is
impressive.
F
The
parks
are
well
maintained
with
what
funding
what
Staffing
you
currently
have,
but
obviously
there's
room
for
improvement
in
ways
to
grow,
that
moving
forward
by
improving
your
outdated
facilities
and
improving
facilities
that
users
see
on
a
regular
basis,
accessibility,
tree
planting,
improved
signage,
are
all
recommended.
Moving
forward,
I
really
suggest
having
that
partnership
with
local
organizations
really
is
a
critical
for
meeting
the
needs
of
programs
and
and
users
within
the
various
spaces.
F
A
Yeah,
so
thanks
for
doing
this,
I'll
just
open
it
up
to
questions
just
to
let
you
know
that
I
read
the
slides.
Your
the
two
budget
numbers
is
more
than
triple
not
nearly
triple
because
305
percent.
So
thank
you
but
I
appreciate.
It
looks
like
there's
a
lot
of
good
information.
There
I'm
still
digesting
it,
but
let
me
open
it
up
to
council
for
questions
and.
B
Just
a
quick
note,
Molly
flagged
that
one
of
the
charts
was
kind
of
inverted
where
the
positives
were
negative
and
the
negatives
were
positive
and
we'll
be
fixing
that.
So
thank
you
for
flagging
that
and
any
other.
This
is
an
advanced
draft,
but
it's
not
final.
So
if
you
find
anything
else
like
that,
please
just
let
Mark
and
me
know.
G
In
terms
of
our
statistics
on
people
living
with
disabilities,
it
looks
like
our
13.4
is
actually
above
the
natural.
The
state
average
of
11.6
am
I.
Reading
that
correctly.
G
I
I
mean
I
think
the
the
conclusion
that
you
presented
to
us
Remains,
the
Same
that
we
should
Implement
and
update
an
ADA
transition
plan,
which
I
think
would
be
great.
H
I
had
a
question
about
what
what
would
what's
the
expectation
for
or
what's
a
good
ratio
of
open
space
to
the
number
of
people
and
how
are
we
doing
with
that
number
and
how
would
we
be
doing
with
that
number
in
2035?
If
you
know.
F
So,
historically,
that
statistics
would
be
what
most
communities
would
use.
The
trend
has
been
going
away
from
actual
square
footage
or
acreage
per
thousands
of
persons
for
the
reason
that
there's
acknowledgment
in
most
of
our
cities,
some
of
the
urban
spaces
are
more
critical
and
more
valuable
than
simply
that
population
ratio,
but
I
can
say
from
comparing
you
to
other
communities
that
we
work
in.
You
have
a
good
variety
location.
F
Wise
locations
of
parks
in
the
city
are
pretty
good,
but
it's
really,
as
you
heard
from
the
public
engagement
meeting,
the
needs
of
the
users
want
to
see
a
little
more
variety.
Definitely
the
care
for:
what's
there
in
the
in
the
city,
core
really
is
that
to
make
those
High
valuable
spaces
is
goes
back
to
maintenance
and
ongoing
improvements,
so
users
that
come
to
use
the
bathrooms,
for
example,
they
want
to
have
a
place.
F
That's
say
comfortable
to
to
use
the
restrooms
right,
the
minute
that
are
they're
perceived
as
aged,
outdated
and
not
going
to
be
functioning
to
their
needs,
they're
a
level
of
satisfaction
declines.
So
then
their
care
may
decline
as
well.
If
you
know
what
I
mean
so,
having
sometimes
smaller
spaces
is
even
better
in
urban
spaces
because
they
provide
so
much
green
space
or
variety
of
value
that
you
may
not
have
otherwise
right
thanks
and.
B
And
Dan,
if
I
might
add,
when
we
discuss
that
issue
with
Mark
and
Dan,
one
of
the
things
to
keep
in
mind
is
We
join
a
6
000
acre
Hudson
Highland
Park.
So
the
issue
isn't
so
much
as
you
know.
Do
you
have
that
space
as
how
do
people
access
it?
How
do
we
invite
them
to
access
that
and
support
that?
The
other
thing
is
we're
working
on
that
rail
trail
which
didn't
make
it
into
the
report.
F
B
A
Both
you
know,
starting
at
Dennings,
Point,
State
Park.
Then
the
trail
up
to
Long
dock
long
docked
acquired
by
Scenic
Hudson.
We
maintain
the
Seeger
Park
our
zoning
on
the
river
side
of
the
train
kind
of
keeps
it
that
way
and
the
way
we'll
support
it
is
we'll
develop
around
the
train
station,
so
we're
kind
of
surrounded
which
is
which
is
cool.
When
I
think
about
what
the
question
you
asked,
which
is
what's
the
right
number,
it
really
is
a
function.
A
H
H
I
Get
your
expert
advice,
while
you're
here
so
given
I,
actually
wasn't
aware
of
quite
that
the
oh,
the
more
than
tripling
of
the
budget
in
the
recreation
department.
Also
comparing
that
to
the
amount
per
capita
we
spend
compared
to
other
communities
that
were
very
low
still,
and
so
it
is
very
possible.
As
a
community,
we
will
decide
to
invest
more
in
this
area
on
a
per
capita
basis,
and
my
question
is
assuming,
for
the
moment
we
are
going
to
do
that.
F
So
I
think
that
the
in
general
recreation
facility,
multi-purpose
first,
is
the
best
way
to
go
being
adaptable
so
having
gymnasium
having
breakout
rooms,
varying
sizes
or
movable
walls,
for
example,
where
you
could
have
a
small
late
meeting
in
a
small
area
versus
expanding
to
three
rooms
into
one
to
having
a
craft
event
for
youth
right.
F
F
I
think
drives
a
lot
of
what
you
currently
need
for
a
space
requirement
and
if
you
can't
meet
that
within
current
city
facilities,
is
there
one
place,
that's
already
open
within
the
city,
as
in
say
the
schools,
for
example,
or
another
Community
location,
or
how
do
you
meet
that
need
within
this
center
of
a
sort?
For
example,
if
you
have
a
basketball
league
right
to
so
you
have
us,
maybe
in
the
summer
it's
outdoors,
you
need
to
improve
your
outdoor
basketball
facilities.
Some
are
dated.
We
could
have
that
program
going.
F
They
might
need
lights
because
they're
going
to
have
the
shoulder
hours
of
the
day
where
you
want
to
have
that
program
going
now.
When
you
continue
the
program
through
the
winter,
you
need
a
great
Court
endorse,
maybe
two
courts,
because
you
want
to
have
a
league
and
have
one
one
game
going
at
a
time.
So
is
that
two
courts
within
one
recreation
facility
or
you
can
use
the
high
school
or
middle
school,
which
probably
has
a
basketball
program
in
the
evenings.
F
H
One
thing
that
surprised
me
in
the
survey
in
the
survey
was
that
that
the
seemed
that
the
group
that
is
the
largest
group
in
Beacon
seems
to
be
middle-aged
people
or
late
middle-aged
people
and
that
there
was
the
biggest
gap
between
services
for
the
representative
services.
And
you
know
I,
never
really
thought
of
my
age
group
as
a
group
that
needs
these
kinds
of
services.
F
That's
a
tough
question.
You.
F
Would
say
a
lot
of
times?
Yes,
it's
middle
age.
Adults
are
caring
for
others,
whether
it's
for
youth
or
for
seniors,
so
their
time
is
spread
very
thin.
What
attracts
most
those
that
demographic
is
actually
a
very
pointed
opportunities
for
engagement,
so
it
may
not
be
a
six
week,
Taekwondo
class.
It
might
be
that
Saturday
nine
to
one
on
February
13th
to
come
on
out
and
have
a
event
of
a
sort
of
interests.
F
So
it's
a
very
pointed
because
time
is
very
limited
to
make
the
user
time
value
their
time,
because
otherwise
they're
going
to
go
and
be
caring
for
others
that
maybe
it's
the
six-week,
youth,
Taekwondo
or
seniors
being
transported
to
other
needs.
So
it's
very
pointed
and
very
specific
programming
for
the
age
demographics,
but
when
the
younger
or
the
older
are
handled
and
cared
for
that,
demographic
can
tend
to
feel
like
they're
being
served
because
the
burdens
on
them
to
then
program
for
those
two
demographics.
You
know
what.
A
Yeah
I
saw
the
a
couple
of
the
graphs
on
programming
by
different
age
groups,
and
I
was
trying
to
think
through
well,
so
we've
always
thought
about
it
as
more
of
a
youth
Arrangement,
it
used
to
be
more
social
organizations
that
would
provide-
and
that's
been
changing
over
time,
which
is
one
of
the
reasons
that
the
city
portion
of
that
Recreation
programming
keeps
going
up
and
we're
choosing
that.
A
But
you
know
service
organizations
or
you
know,
religious
communities
have
been
kind
of
filling
those
gaps
and
that
happens
less
today
and
I
think
it
falls
on
us
to
kind
of
think
through
and
it
may
be
more
senior
and
middle
programs,
because
I
think
we
naturally
think
about
the
younger
ones.
Now
some
of
those
senior
programs
might
be
provided
at
facilities
where
seniors
are
housed.
So
we
should
take
that
into
account,
but
I
I
think
it
makes
sense
that
we
should
kind
of
broaden
a
horizon
somewhere.
I
I
would
add
to
that
too,
that
I
think
a
lot
of
the
private
Partnerships
either
be
the
school
district
or
other
private
entities
around
tend
to
focus
on
the
young
people
already,
and
that
seems
to
be
an
area
that's
growing,
whereas
I'm
less
familiar
with
the
stuff.
That's
for
the
middle
aged
and
the
older
aside
from
those
who
live
in
facilities
that
are
dedicated
to
older
populations.
So
that
might
be
an
area
where
we
could
spend
our
Collective
resources
as
a
community.
F
Some
of
that
older
demographic,
they
are
going
to
say
looking
for
a
location
to
do
an
event.
They
sometimes
want
to
go
on
field
trips
or
go
places
as
a
city-sponsored
place
event,
because
half
of
it's
the
bus
ride
the
social
to
go,
hiking
or
to
go
shopping
or
to
see
a
musical
in
the
city.
So
it's
the
experience
for
that
demographic,
not
always
just
the
event
right.
I
D
J
F
I
do
average
Community
is
very
different
with
how
they
handle
the
very
needs.
But,
as
we're
saying
this
is
a
community
center
I
think
that
it's
the
right
opportunity
to
meet
that
growing
need
for
other
services,
that
not
recreational
services
and
the
staff
is
equipped
with
enough
of
the
tools
that
they
can
provide
that
as
well
or
have
others
come
in,
say,
say
it's
a
food
food
providing
food
for
users
or
residents.
F
They
can
facilitate
that
and
have
say
others
come
in
bring
food
in
and
then
use
that
facility
to
offer
that
as
needed
or
reading
programs-
or
you
know
other
kind
of
social
needs
within
the
community.
They
can
house
it
and
they
can
definitely
chaperone
that
through
the
process
for
those
that
may
be
more
trained
or
experienced
to
produce.
G
Just
to
follow
up
on
that
are
there
specific
examples
of
communities
you've
worked
with
that
you've.
Seen
do
this
successfully,
this
overlap
of
recreational
and
social
services
that
we
can
look
to.
F
I,
don't
recall
offhand
exact
names
of
locations,
but
we
can
certainly
get
you
a
list
of
those
that
have
very
similar
again.
Every
municipality
is
very
different
to
how
you
handle
them
from
a
department
standpoint,
but
most
offer
to
some
degree
in
locations,
say
Recreation
facilities
after
school
programs,
which
is
also
the
the
food
service
for
some
communities,
is,
is
very
common
to
provide
that
need
for
within
the
community,
we're
currently
working
in
Albany.
F
Looking
at
the
recreation
facility
as
to
how
can
they
accommodate
growing
need
to
feed
their
youth
they're
coming
for
after
school
programs,
therefore
needing
a
bigger
kitchen
that
they
can
actually
prepare
food
not
simply
have
to
have
food
that
is
delivered
for
their
Recreation
services
on
a
daily
basis.
So
it
varies,
but
we
can
get
some
examples
of
where
that's
we've
seen
that
successfully
done
and.
B
You've
seen
that
done
pretty
successfully
with
our
after-school
programs,
which
are
bursting
at
the
seam.
Now
those
are
an
enhancement
and
therefore
you
know
giving
kids
an
option
after
school
to
learn
something
different,
but
we
also
know
that
people
on
the
lower
income
Spectrum
use
those
Services
as
as
child
care,
because
they're
not
widely
available.
Additionally,
when
we
needed
to
do
food
Aid,
our
Recreation
Department
Mark
handled
the
purchase
of
25
000
worth
of
food,
that
was
then
distributed
out
and
served
as
the
Nexus
for
getting
out
testing
kits
and
mass.
B
So
when
we
have
those
type
of
things,
we've
Recreation
has
been
our
go-to
department,
and
that
really
is
something
even
with
like
the
compost
program,
those
compost
again,
it's
not
a
social
service.
But
again
our
we're
expanding
well
beyond
just
old-time.
Recreation
of
you
know,
ball
fields
and,
and
football.
G
Yeah
I
think
that
illustrates
Chris
really
well.
What
I
was
going
to
say,
which
is
this
model
of
having
those
two
things
really
integrated
with
each
other?
If
I
heard
the
example,
you
were
saying
Dan
correctly
an
example
of
there's
one
door
for
this
and
one
door
for
that.
G
F
Yeah
no
I
wasn't
implying
at
all.
It's
just
that
thinking
through
design
of
a
facility
is,
is
to
acknowledging
that
there's
very
needs
of
the
building,
and
how
do
you
properly
design
that
appropriately
again,
one
door
for
me
all
needs
is
the
right
approach.
But
how
do
you
make
sure
that
if
you
need
to
have
a
discrete
setting
or
accommodations
that
you're
able
to
do
that
within
the
building
facility,
footprint
itself
or.
F
G
Definitely
I
had
one
more
question
which
may
actually
be
for
Nick
I
wanted
to
make
sure
I
I
appreciate
that
one
of
the
recommendations
was
around
really
leaning
into
Partnerships
and
I
wanted
to
understand.
Programming
wise
I
think
we've
come
up
against
with
our
community
grants
only
being
able
to
spend
money
on
certain
things
and
and
certain
not
being
able
to
spend
money
on
certain
types
of
programming
and
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
as
we're
thinking
through
partnership
ideas.
E
I
think
generally,
the
limitation
is
that
the
city
council
needs
to
be
comfortable,
that
it
is
serving
a
public
purpose.
It's
not
a
limited
private
purpose
and
that
it's
open
to
to
all
residents
and
I
think
those
are
the
general
restrictions
that
we're
talking
about
I.
Think
generally,
these
Cantonese
programs
are
permittable
are
permissible.
G
G
Yeah
just
there
is,
for
example,
a
private,
a
non-profit
that
is
doing
really
successful,
programming
at
Forest
Hill
Heights
for
the
seniors
there,
but
my
understanding
is
because
it
is
for
forestally
individuals.
E
In
particular,
right,
if
it's
limited
just
to
those
residents,
then
it
would
be
problematic
because
it's
not
open
to
All
City
residents
right.
E
D
H
C
The
program
spike
is
is
directly
related
to
an
increase
in
activity
in
programs,
but
also
the
use
of
our
online
platform.
So
we
we're
capturing
a
great
deal
more
of
some
of
those
other
registrations
pool
swim
lessons
summer,
camp
after
school,
so
yeah,
you
know,
we've
come
online
almost
completely
with
all
their
programming
and
the
registration,
but
so
we
have
a
better
sense
of
how
to
how
to
track
it
and
can
I
just
make
a
couple
of
comments
and
and
leave
you
with
three
thoughts.
C
So
if
you
looked
at
that
that
that
funding
graph
it
showed
you
know,
the
increase
in
funding
I
know
that
that
money,
you
know
was,
you
know,
correlates
directly
to
the
time
that
city
council
decided
to
take
over
the
BCC
building
and
create
a
Rec
Center
make
my
department
full-time.
You
know
we
went
from
one
part-time
staffer
to
within
a
couple
of
years.
C
Three
full-time
staffers
in
the
ability
to
you
know,
run
programming,
create
programming
a
space
to
do
it
in
so
that
all
you
know
syncs
up,
so
all
it
takes
is
a
little
bit
of
space
a
little
bit
of
people
and-
and
you
know
things
can
happen
and
a
little
bit
of
money.
Three
thoughts
I'd
leave
you
with.
C
Besides
that,
actually
one
other
thing
which
Dan
had
mentioned,
but
there's
a
lot
in
that
report
handed
to
us
in
the
back
of
it
with
recommendations
to
the
parks
and
our
facilities
that
we
can
just
extract
and
their
actionable
items
through
our
DPW
and
our
parks
department.
So
there's
stuff
we
can
work
on
and
we're
currently
working
on.
There's
some
some
check
boxes.
I
can
already
make
on
that
stuff.
So
that's
an
incredibly
useful
tool
for
us
to
have
it
sort
of
categorized
and
set
up
in
such
a
way
that
we
can.
C
We
can
work
towards
making
improvements
along
the
way
it
doesn't
mean
everything
has
to
Halt
and
we
have
to
reinvent
the
wheel.
You
know
all
this
stuff
is
is
gonna.
You
know
every
year
you
know
gets
a
little
bit
better.
Three
thoughts
I'd
leave
with
you
with,
are
you
know
it
I
believe
this
report's
a
good
point
to
discuss.
C
You
know:
revitalizing
our
Recreation
committee,
maybe
revisioning
our
Recreation
Committee
in
such
a
way
that
it's
a
recreation
and
Community
Committee
I
believe
with
this
this
document
we
have,
you
know
the
path
board,
you
know
and-
and
you
know,
the
usefulness
of
the
community
will
will
help
us
get
there.
You
know
it's
those
ideas,
what
a
community
center
is
or
or
what's
involved
in
that
that
you
know
really
the
public
input
is
important,
you
know
and
and
they
can
help
us
figure
these
things
out.
These
are
people
that
could
go
visit.
C
Other
centers-
and
you
know
I-
think
we're
at
a
point
where
that
that
committee
can
be
useful.
You
know
not
that
it
hasn't
in
the
past,
but
we
had
a
bit
of
a
Hiatus,
and
you
know
it's
it's
usefulness
in
that.
We
didn't
have
much
form
to
do
and
it's
hard
to
call
meetings
and
not
have
much
to
do.
You
know
you
want
want
stuff
people
to
be
vested
in
in
participating
and
helping.
K
C
In
what
I
had
mentioned
earlier,
it's
a
little
bit
of
a
little
bit
of
people
a
little
bit
of
space,
so
we
can
do
things
we
may
want
to
consider.
You
know
looking
at
you
know,
adding
to
the
recreation
staff.
You
know
we've
been
tossing
around
the
idea
for
a
couple
of
Seasons.
Now
how
do
we?
How
can
we
do
more?
We
need
more
bandwidth,
you
know.
C
Sometimes
it's
a
matter
of
you
know,
maybe
even
just
clearing
space
on
on
you
know
my
desk
and
somebody
else's
desk,
and,
and
you
know,
certain
tasks
can
be
created.
We
have
a
community
liaison
or
something
where
you
know
the
position
would
be.
You
know
Community
facing
and
facilitating
in
that
day-to-day
work
that
sort
of
bogs
us
down.
You
know
any
given
day,
I
I
answer
three
social
service
related
or
community
service,
related
questions
or
more.
You
know
my
book
people
and
touch
my
all
my
staff,
but
people
in
touch
with
the
right
parties.
C
You
know
that's
that's
part
of
the
traffic
control
on
a
daily
basis.
There,
not
everyone's
calling
about
where's
the
coolest
basketball
court.
Most
of
the
people
calling
are
are
looking
for
something
in
the
community,
and
you
know
they
they
either
call
around
or
they
just
call
the
rec
department.
They'll
they'll
know
what
time
the
train
leaves
on
Saturdays
or
whatever
it
is.
You
know
it's.
It's
always
exciting
to
you
know,
find
out.
What's
gonna,
what's
gonna
call
it
and,
more
importantly,
answer
the
question.
C
You
know
I'd
like
to
leave
people
with
with
the
answers,
and
my
third
thought
was
in
my
back
pocket.
I
can't
remember
things
when
I
get
rattling
around.
C
Thank
you,
the
other
was
in
Dan's
report
had
mentioned.
You
know,
thoughts
moving
forward.
If,
if
we
indeed
want
this
thing,
we
should
think
about
what
it
is,
and
you
know
we
have
a
current
Center,
you
know.
Is
there
a
possible
way
of
reusing
or
repurposing
that
or
expanding
upon
it?
You
know,
and
that
takes
professional.
C
You
know
Professional,
Services
and,
and
you
know
again
what
goes
in
it
may
be
part
of
that
committee.
You
know
it's
all
kind
of
you
know
Collective,
but
you
know
I.
Think
next
steps
are,
you
know
another
another
round
of
you
know,
sort
of
thoughtful
and
and
Professional
Services,
that
sort
of
get
us
a
little
bit
closer
to
what
it
may
be.
That's
all
I
had
and.
B
When
we
were
developing
the
2023
budget,
Mark
and
I
toiled
with
at
what
point?
Do
we
add
staff
at
one
point,
do
we
increase
capacity,
and
it's
always
we
were?
We
were
trying
to
get
through
the
study,
so
we
didn't
propose
any
additions
in
last
year's
budget,
but
you've
seen
that
we've
added
more
and
more
to
his
plate.
Like
the
community
investment
grants,
you
know
somebody
somebody
has
to
work
on
that
and
and
now
work
with
a
recreation
committee,
hopefully
to
score
those
and
bring
those
to
you.
B
You
know
we've
done
a
lot
of
support
for
the
green
teens
over
at
our
site.
If
we
do
a
feasibility
study,
it's
a
lot
of
additional
work
to
try
to
nail
down
what's
the
program,
what's
the
space
that
goes
with
it.
What's
the
building
look
like
what
what
are
the
components
of
it?
B
Is
it
something
you
could
face,
and
so
I
would
like
to
finish
out
the
report
there's
a
couple
changes
that
have
to
be
made
by
the
end
of
the
month,
but
what
I'd
like
to
work
on
is
reconstituting
this
Rec
committee.
A
Yeah,
when
I
was
trying
to
think
of
the
next
steps
here,
I
would
split
and
I
think
you've
done
that
Capital
versus
programming,
I,
think
Capital,
wise
I,
think
that's
a
feasibility
study,
I,
think
programming,
wise
I
think
it
is
an
opportunity
to
start
up.
You
know
kind
of
reinvigorate
a
Rec
committee
and
I
think
what
we
could
do
is
sort
of
offer
up.
Here's
like
five
years
what
it
might
look
like
rough
number,
just
total
and
it's
like
well.
If
it
were
growing,
it's
not
going
to
Triple
any
more
times
right,
I
mean.
D
A
Piece,
but
let's
say
it's
growing
I,
don't
know
pick
a
number
10
a
year
for
the
next
five
and
you're
looking
at
that
list
and
even
if
it
doesn't
grow,
suppose
it's
flat
whatever
whatever
the
number
is.
What
programs
would
you
want
to
do
when
and
to
get
kind
of
a
group
that
you
could
get
a
sounding
board
on
that
and
then
start
to
come
back
and
say
all
right,
those
senior
things?
Okay,
here's
what
we're
thinking
and
it
could
just
be.
B
And
on
the
capital
side,
when
you
did
the
capital
program
last
year,
you
put
7.8
million
dollars
in
Recreation
for
the
next
five
years.
So
you
know
we
are
looking
at
some
major
improvements
to
the
parks
and
and
we
do
them
as
we
can
like
we
when
we
were
Paving,
we
did
repave
the
basketball
court
at
Green.
Street
or
you
know
like
we
know,
there's
a
drainage
issue
at
the
basketball
courts
at
at
Memorial
and
I.
Don't
need
a
capital
project
necessarily
to
just
fix
that,
so
we're
I
think
we.
H
When
we
go
to
this
feasibility
study
for
the
community
center,
I
mean
we're
focusing
on
building.
You
know,
conceptualizing
the
perfect
building
for
the
need,
but
there's
options
for
location,
but
location
would
be
determined
by
maybe
the
size
and
footprint
of
the
of
the
needed
building.
How
do
we
does
that
all
go
into
the
same
study
or
are
there?
H
Are
there
multiple
steps,
I'm
just
thinking
of
the
firehouse
presentations
that
that
used
to
come
up
every
now
and
again,
and
they
kind
of
went
on
forever
and
I
just
want
to
avoid
that
with
the
with
the
community
center
yeah.
C
I
mean
I
I
think
the
the
most
efficient
use
of
those.
You
know
that
that
planning
money
would
be
to
settle
on
that.
You
know
a
spot.
So
if
it's
the
current
rec
center
and
how
do
we
rebuild
that
or
expand
upon
it,
you
know
I
think
there's
another
layer
to
it.
If
you
have
to
move
it
or
or
come
up
with,
you
know
new
real
estate
to
to
do
so.
You.
C
It's,
of
course,
part
of
a
you
know,
complex,
but
I
think
we're
specifically
talking
about
a
singular
location.
At
this
point
and
and
maybe
you
know
as
we
move
forward
and
you
know
sort
of
over
the
years-
it's
you
know,
maybe
you
know
the
next
next
site
may
be.
You
know
clear,
clear.
K
C
Based
on
availability
but
I
think
we'd
want
to
settle
in
on.
You
know
where
we
are
currently
and
how
how
we
can
make
a
you
know
that
corner
of
the
park.
You
know
better
and
you
know
more
usable
for
you
know
future
years,
but
you
know
that's
my
opinion.
A
I
I
also
am
feeling
like,
because
we're
growing
or
have
grown
so
rapidly,
knowing
just
a
little
bit
more
about
our
programming
and
what
we
want
as
a
community
is
helpful
before
we
put
the
finishing
touches
on
a
feasibility
study,
but
I
appreciate
it's
a
five-year
program,
if
not
longer
so
to
have
those
two
things
run
in
parallel.
Right
now
seems
to
make
sense
so
that
whatever
we
decide
on
for
facilities
lines
up
for
both
whatever
our
current
program
Ming
and
our
vision
for
programming
in
the
future,
yeah.
G
Back
I
I
have
one
follow-up
question:
if
that's
okay
I,
it
seems
like
we're,
perhaps
at
a
Tipping
Point
around
making
explicit
this
project
as
a
recreation
with
sorry
thinking,
specifically
about
the
recreation
committee
about
keep
making
this
a
recreation
project
versus
a
recreation
and
Community
project
or
Recreation
and
Social
Services
project
Mark.
G
You
said
that
there
is
potential
for
re-envisioning
of
the
recreation
committee
to
perhaps
include
that
Community
part
of
the
vision-
and
you
know
if
this
piece
of
homework
that
we've
been
given
of
trying
to
recruit
people
for
this
new
recreation
committee,
I'm
wondering
if
there
is
a
step
to
formally
say
or
formally
expand
the
mission
of
the
recreation
committee
so
that
we're
accurately
recruiting
the
right
people
for
the
right
job
is
that
at
all
clear
sorry,
I
fumbled,
my
intro.
C
C
A
Yeah
Dan
and
mark.
Thank
you
both.
B
A
All
right
next
item
is
local
law
on
electrification
and
I.
Think
Nick
you're
going
to
lead
us
on
that
or
am
I.
E
That's
correct
I'm
set
to
lead
the
discussion
on
that.
So
in
your
agenda,
packet
is
a
draft
local
law
that
we've
prepared.
We've
also
included
the
other
materials
that
we've
been
reviewing
over
the
past
couple
weeks.
The
frame
of
reference,
the
local
law
would
and
then
chapter
106
is
which
is
the
city's
code
provision
on
energy
conservation,
and
it
would
require
new
construction
of
residential
and
commercial
buildings
to
become
all-electric
within
a
certain
time
frames
and
we'll
get
into
those
in
a
moment.
E
Let
me
just
provide
I
guess
an
overview
of
a
law
that
we've
drafted.
I
also
want
to
make
clear
that
it's
understood
it
applies
to
new
construction,
doesn't
apply
to
appliances,
doesn't
apply
to
retrofitting,
doesn't
apply
to
existing.
It's
focused
on
new
construction,
whether
it's
a
single
family,
home
or
a
mostly
family
building
or
in
later
years,
commercial
construction.
E
So
section
106-30
sets
forth
the
intent
and
the
purpose
gives
sets
work
with
the
authority
and
so
in
106-38.
We
go
through
in
some
degree
as
to
the
basis
and
what
the
goals
and
intent
here
relying
upon
the
local
energy
code
supplement.
That's
permit
by
New
York
State.
The
green
Amendment
and
the
climate
leadership
and
Community
protection
act
is
sort
of
set
forth
the
basis
and
then
in
section
B
we
have
I
believe.
E
Is
it
13,
12
different
findings
that
the
council
has
made,
and
these
are
all
derived
from
the
discussions
we've
had
over
Workshop
I
promise.
We
proceed
from
the
public
and
just
recognizes
why
the
council
is
doing
this
and
the
findings
that
support
your
belief
that
it's
necessary
to
ban
fossil
fuels
and
require
clean
energy
or
electric
energy,
at
least
through
the
through
the
this
local
law
and
it
it
sets
forth
as
you've
read
all
the
different
justifications
for
it,
including
environmental
impacts,
impact
on
health,
indoor,
air
quality
and
things
of
that
nature.
E
So
if
you
have
any
specific
comments
on
those,
let
me
know,
but
these
are
all
taken
from
our
from
our
discussions
and
then
section
c
on
the
third
page
of
vocal
law.
What's
your
Authority
or
adopting
this
law.
But
what
is
your
Authority?
So
it's
under
section
11-109
of
the
New
York
State
energy
law,
which
allows
the
city
subject
to
a
review
by
the
New
York
State
codes,
Council
to
have
more
stringent
energy
requirements
than
New
York
state
provides.
E
We
also
rely
upon
the
New
York
state
constitution,
the
green
Amendment,
which
is
Article
1
Section
19.
That
guarantees
each
person
the
right
to
clean
air
and
water
and
a
helpful
environment,
and
this
law
would
further
enact
that
constitutional
right
and
then
in
section
106-31
we
talk
about
the
applicability.
What
does
this
apply
to
the
talks
about
all
new
buildings?
Sf
work
later
on,
and
then
in
section
c
it
gives
you
the
three
exemptions
that
we've
discussed
in
our
workshops:
emergency,
backup,
Power
Systems
generators
can
still
be
supplied
by
natural
gas.
E
Municipal
Water
and
Sewer
facilities
can
be
supplied
by
natural
gas
and
we
spoke
about
the
energy
needs
and
those
existing
operations.
That
is
just
not
there
yet
with
the
technology
and
then
any
project
that
receives
site
plan
approval
from
a
planning
board
prior
to
June
30th
2023
would
be
exempt
from
having
to
comply
with
this
act.
Those
admissions
we
then
have
a
number
of
definitions
in
section
106-32,
some
of
which
we've
looked
at
before
the
definition
of
major
renovation,
was
revised.
E
In
section
106-32
entitled
all
electric
building
requirements,
and
this
has
the
dates
where
it
would
apply,
and
the
first
in
section
A
says
that
effective
January,
1st
2024
no
building
permit
application
so
be
accepted
by
the
building
department
and
no
building
permit
issued
or
new
construction
or
major
renovation
of
residential
buildings
which
require
the
use
of
fossil
fuels
to
power
any
equipment
or
Building
Systems
they're
in
including
spacing
water,
heating,
cooking
and
clothes
drying.
In
section
B,
we
applied
that
same
language,
but
applied
it
to
the
portion
of
a
mixed
use.
E
Building
for
residential
purposes,
you
may
recall:
we've
had
discussions
about
how
to
deal
with
mixed
juice.
Our
office
have
reached
out
to
nicer
we've
not
received
any
substantial
Assistance
or
clarification
from
them
in
speaking
with
some
design
Engineers
out
there.
They
said
that
what
they've
seen
is
that
the
residentials
are
going
electric
and
Commercial
are
kept
as
coming
in
up
facing
at
a
later
date.
E
So
that's
how
we've
drafted
this
law,
residential
as
of
January,
1st,
2024,
residential
and
mixed
juice,
as
of
January,
1st
2024
commercial,
as
of
January,
1st
2027
and
the
commercial
portion
of
a
mixed
use.
Building
on
Section
D
would
also
be
January.
1St
2027.
I
poured,
as
there
was
a
type
on
an
earlier
version
that
said,
2024
protection,
D
that
is
2027.
E
and
then
in
section
e.
We
provided
that
with
respect
to
oil
tanks,
all
plans
submitted
in
connection
with
new
construction,
which
would
involve
the
removal
of
an
oil
tank.
Maybe
it's
a
tear
down
new
pep
as
an
oil
tank,
just
want
to
make
sure
those
oil
tanks
are
closed
in
accordance
with
appropriate
regulation
and
likewise
that,
if
it's
a
building,
it's
a
new
construction.
But
it's
on
a
lot
that
has
a
gas
pipeline.
E
We
just
want
to
make
sure
that
that
gas
pipeline
is
safely
capped
off
and
that's
brought
to
the
attention
when
they're
submitting
or
building
permit
application.
E
As
we
discussed,
there
may
be
examples
of
hardships
under
the
law
and
we
want
to
provide
that
relief
valve
and
an
opportunity
for
someone
to
be
heard
and
make
their
argument
that
they,
despite
efforts,
cannot
conflict.
So
section
106-33
is
a
hardship
exemption.
It's
more
than
economics,
I'm,
gonna,
I'm
gonna
revise
that
just
about
its
hardship
exemption
and
then
in
section
106-33c
it
states
that
one
would
apply
to
the
zba
to
obtain
a
hardship
based
upon
establishing
the
existence
of
compliance
with
the
article
is
not
financially
technically
or
physically
physically.
E
Excuse
me,
infeasible,
and
then
it
says
fourth
episode
board
would
make
those
decisions.
So
that's
an
overview
of
a
local
law.
The
Next
Step
would
be
if
you're
comfortable
with
this
draft
of
a
local
law.
E
Only
change
you
can
make
tonight
at
your
Monday
meeting
or
Tuesday
meeting
to
then
next
week
to
schedule
a
public
hearing,
and
we
could
also
have
this
referred
to
a
planning
board
in
the
public
hearing
you
could
set
would
be
for
I
believe
it's
February
27th,
and
we
would
ask
that
if
a
planning
board
would
consider
this
after
February
15th
agenda,
that
the
flame
board
will
be
able
to
get.
You
comments
back
before
your
public
hearing.
D
B
And
we
tried
to
get
Bruce
to
attend
this
evening.
In
case
you
had
questions
in
terms
of
enforcement.
He
was
unable
to
come
tonight,
but
we
do
have
him
on
the
agenda
for
the
21st,
so
he'll
be
you'll,
get
to
meet
Bruce.
If
you
haven't
met
Bruce
our
new
buildings,
we
interviewed
him.
Oh
you
that
correct.
H
This
is
great
Nick
I
I
have
a
couple
areas
with
questions
if
we're
ready
for
that.
But
yes,
this
in
this
section,
where
we
interest
where
you
introduce
the
oil
tanks,
was
interesting
to
me
and
I
wanted
to
know
if
there
was
something
that
could
be
or
needs
to
be
extended
to
maybe
the
removal
of
propane
tanks
or
other
kinds
of
storage
of
fuel
other
than
oil
tanks.
H
And
my
second
question
with
regards
to
that
paragraph:
Was:
is
there
a
preferred
or
ideal
I,
don't
know
how
to
ask
the
question
point
where
we
want
the
pipe
capped,
meaning
you
know
if
you're,
if
you're
renovating
a
building
and
you're
removing
the
natural
gas
connections,
do
you
want
that?
Do
you
want
to
cap
that
pipe,
a
foot
away
from
your
foundation
or
do?
Are
you
capping
it
out
by
the
road
and
will
that
matter?
H
B
Will
ask
Bruce,
vest
Nick
I
can
answer
this
because
we
just
went
through
it
with
the
firehouse.
If
you
want
to
shut
off
the
gas
you
have
to
put
in
the
request
through
Central
Hudson
and
they
cat,
they
turn
it
off
at
the
valve
and
after
they
do
that,
then
you
can
remove
the
gas
pipe
so
like
our
gas
for
the
firehouse
is
fed
off
of
South
Avenue
since
we're
not
using
any
gas
in
the
heating
of
that
building.
A
B
A
Yeah,
though,
certainly
the
old
houses
all
had
oil
tanks,
so
I've
got
one.
Let's
back
up
to
the
front,
the
you
have
a
the
inapplicability
in
31c.
You
go
Municipal
Water
and
Sewer
I
I
understand
why
we're
doing
that
I
I,
wonder
whether
any
of
the
large
industrial
facilities
on
52,
which
are
probably
of
the
ilk
of
our
water
or
sewer
facility,
meaning
a
big
industrial
facility,
whether
we're
hurting
ourselves.
A
If
we
don't
sort
of
think
through
when
that
should
occur,
I
I
did
not
read
through
the
states
several
hundred
page
report
on
how
they
achieve
their
goals.
I
need
to
look
at
industrial,
but
it's
sort
of
of
the
same
category
of
tall
buildings
and
other
commercial
sites
where
it's
gonna.
You
really
have
to
think
specifically
about
those,
so
I
I
like
to
put
a
marker
on
Industrial
and
then
explore
with
either
nyserda
or
the
climate
Action
Council.
What
they're
thinking
with
respect
to
those
well.
D
A
A
So
the
issue
with
the
hardship
exemption
is
is
we
can
do
anything
we
want
and
put
in
a
hardship
exception,
and
if
we've
done
everything
wrong,
then
everything
becomes
a
hardship
exemption.
I
think
we
should
think
through
each
of
the
components
and
get
what
we
think
is
correct
into
this
and
then
the
hardship
honestly
I
almost
prefer
not
to
have
that.
If
and
we
we
couldn't.
Unless
we
know
every
piece
is
right
and
we
probably
even
then
still
need
it,
but
I
like
to
minimize
that
usage
yeah.
D
E
A
Open
a
discussion
with
them
and
we'll
have
them
come
to
council
too,
and
so
we
can
talk
our
way
through
it,
because
I
I,
just
want
to
feel
like
you
know
again
only
applies
to
new
construction
but,
for
instance,
the
example
would
be
when
industrial
Arts
Brewing
went
in
you
know
there
was,
you
know,
could
be
a
substantial
portion
there,
construction
or
if
kemporin,
wanted
to
expand
right.
We
certainly
want
to
permit
it
as
long
as
they're
doing
it
effectively.
B
So
Nick,
is
it
possible
to
look
at
whether
or
not
there's
some
like
needle?
We
can
thread
in
our
zoning
so
that
this
only
applies
to
a
very
narrow
band
of
of
buildings
and
I.
Think
in
terms
of
Justice
like
what,
if
you
have
a
fire
and
they
want
to
rebuild,
and
then
you
know
they
would
have
to
go
through
all
kinds
of
hardship,
exemptions.
B
You
know
I
think
about
the
place
that
just
burned
down
like
if
you
had
to
rebuild
that
now
that
they're
under
a
different
set
of
rules
now,
if
it
wasn't
a
complete
loss
and
they
still
had
some
of
their
Heating
and
stuff
you
might
want
to
allow
them
to
to
rebuild,
particularly
if
their
industrial
process
doesn't
conform
to
what's
available
for
electric
use,
like
you
think
about
Niche,
modern,
doing
all
that
glass
blowing,
it's
like
I,
don't
think
we're
close
to
having
something
that
has
the
density
of
natural
gas.
B
For
you
know
heating
those
products
well.
A
B
A
D
I
I
liked
in
under
the
under
the
hardship
process
that
e
under
106633
says
that
even
those
who
are
granted
a
hardship
exemption,
they
shall
have
required
to
have
at
a
minimum
to
have
sufficient
electric
capacity
wiring
and
conduit
to
facilitate
future
full
building,
electrification
and
I'm,
wondering
if
it's
possible
and
I
don't
know
a
lot
about
it.
Maybe
a
question
for
Bruce
next
time.
I
If
we
could
also
require
that
of
our
commercial,
they
don't
have
to
have
all
electric
now,
but
any
new
construction
should
also
have
the
capacity
to
become
full
electric.
If
there's
a
way
that
we
could
put
that
or
we
want
to
put
that
in
the
law
as
well
and
maybe
for
our
industrial
as
well.
So
basically,
all
those
were
saying
you
don't
have
to
do
this
now,
but
we
want
you
to
put
in
the
wiring
to
make
it
possible.
You
can
tell
I,
don't
know
a
lot
about
how
this
works.
E
A
Yeah,
the
other
thing
I
would
want
to
ask
nyserda
or
someone
like
it.
There's
two
elements.
One
again:
I'd
love
us
to
not
have
any
hardship,
exemptions
right,
so
one
of
the
questions
would
be.
When
are
we
expecting
incentive
programs
by
what
type
of
construction
to
come
into
play
right?
So
if
we
knew
that
for
commercial
buildings,
they've
put
an
incentive
program
in
place
at
the
Statewide
level,
then
again
we
wouldn't
need
to
have
this
we'd
say:
go:
do
the
incentives
right,
Nick
I,
don't
think
we
can
do
any
incentives?
Can
we.
A
That's
residential
and
Commercial
I
just
want
to
understand,
because
I
think
we
already
got
an
email
from
an
owner
of
a
Main,
Street
Building,
saying
that
that's
kind
of
tough
to
kind
of
split
up
right,
I
know
the
one
building
that
my
you
know,
wife
and
I
worked
on
was
six
units
on
two
floors
and
then
a
commercial
space,
and
it
had
a
single
boiler
right
and
I.
Think
buildings
of
that
footprint
might
be
hard
to
split
and
I
want
to
just
understand
from
I
sort
of
how
do
we?
E
A
No
I
understand,
but
if
you're
putting
up
a
new
building
in,
say
a
a
really
narrow
space
on
Main
Street,
not
a
big
one
but
a
smaller
one
and
you've
only
got
I,
don't
know
three
or
four
thousand
square
feet
and
half
of
it
is
residential
and
half
as
commercial.
The
concept
that
we
would
require.
You
know
the
commercial
piece
at
a
different
point
than
the
residential
may
not
make
sense.
We
might
like
to
split
the
baby,
but
it
may
be
hard
to
do
it
and.
A
I
H
A
It
could
be
what
we
discover
is
that
below
a
certain
size,
remember
what
we're!
What
we're
reading
is,
that
the
residential
three
stories
and
under
the
economics
apparently
make
sense,
and
it
could
be
that
small
buildings
also
make
sense,
even
if
they're
part
commercial,
but
I,
just
I
need
to
learn
a
little
bit
more
in
there
before
I
kind
of
get
comfortable.
So
I'm
just
looking
for
a
little
expertise.
I'm
not
disagreeing
with
this
split
of
the
in.
H
A
question
that
I
I
would
have
for
nyserda
too,
is
what
they
think
about
our
effective
date.
For
the
commercial
I
don't
know
Nick
have
you
have
you
encountered
a
compelling
argument
why
a
city
should
follow
the
state's
lead
in
delaying
commercial.
E
Sure
that
the
reasons
the
commercial
is
lagging
behind,
the
residential
is
due
to
concerns
about
the
technology
not
being
there
for
all
commercial
use.
Since
last
time,
we
discussed
domestic,
hot
water,
heater
and
larger
buildings
being
an
example,
the
second
being
the
state
not
having
all
the
incentives
in
place
and
the
third
being
the
state's
concerned
about
the
workforce,
one
not
being
sufficient
for
the
demand
of
the
electrical
all
at
once
and
two
not
having
enough
trained
individuals
for
that
either
not
having
right
training
and
not
a
sufficient
large
enough
Workforce.
E
H
Yeah
I
haven't
I
mean
the
the
Statewide
arguments
are,
are
interesting
and
and
feel
right,
I
I,
don't
know
how
well
they
translate
to
the
city
level,
though,
and
you
know
when
I
was
thinking
about
commercial
I
was
thinking.
You
know
we
could
include
commercial
with
resent
with
residential
and
then,
as
the
technology
catches
up,
new
types
of
businesses
can
begin
to.
You
know,
move
and
build
and
Beacon
if
they
wanted
to,
as
opposed
to
waiting
for
the
technology
to
cut
up.
H
A
Yeah,
the
rationale
that
Nick
you
mentioned
is
what
I
I
saw
on
the
state's
report
right
every
time
they
said
you
know
we
would
start
later
for
this.
It
was
always
because
either
the
technology
wasn't
there
yet
or
the
incentives
weren't
in
place,
or
you
know
something
along
those
lines.
Right
I
mean
residential.
You
know
they
stopped
at
three
stories
because
above
three
stories,
the
ability
to
kind
of
push
the
the
heat
in
particular
up
was
a
an
issue
kind
of
Technology
issue.
A
B
D
B
Been
adopted
by
the
legislature,
it
is
you
know,
so
we're
well
ahead
of
them.
These
these
were
ideas
that
were
thrown
out
and
they
they
haven't
been
codified
into
law
and
again,
I,
don't
know
how
much
use
it's
been
really
hard
to
just
get
nyserda
on
the
phone,
I
would
say.
Bruce
is
probably
can
speak
to
the
experience
here
with
the
types
of
buildings
he's
seeing
bill
because
he
told
me
the
other
day.
Some
of
them
are
already
largely
electric.
D
D
H
E
D
H
The
only
other
question
I
had
was
about
the
definition
of
major
Renovations
and
I
I.
Read
it
a
few
times
and
I'm,
just
struggling
with
the
and
versus
or
part
of
the
sentence,
so
a
major
renovation
is
currently
is
defined
as
any
construction
or
renovation
to
an
existing
structure
other
than
a
repair
addition
where
the
work
area,
so
not
it
does
not
include
repairs
other
than
a
repair,
construction
or
renovation.
E
No
I
think
it's
only
triggered
no
I.
Think
then
you'd
have
to
well
you're,
not
requiring
the
switch
out
of
the
appliances.
I'm.
Sorry!
Well,
no
I'm!
Sorry!
Let
me
stand
back
you're
right
that
it
would
apply
well,
if
you're
doing
work
that
exceeds
75,
then
they
would
have
to
switch
out
everything
within
100
of
the
building.
B
No
Nick,
that's
not
what,
when
we
reviewed
this
with
Bruce,
he
asked
for
the
75,
because
that's
a
clear
standard
by
which
he
can
enforce
it.
We
also
then
had
a
discussion
that
that
didn't
make
sense.
Like
let's
say
you
bought
an
old
Victorian
house
and
you're
renovating.
You
know
all
of
the
house,
but
you're
not
changing
out
you.
You
just
got
a
new
heating
system
five
years
ago
and
you
have
an
old
system
of
steam
generators.
There's
really
no
way
to
do
that
without
going.
E
A
H
G
I
will
just
say:
I
am
also
confused.
This
section
and
I'm
happy
looking
forward
to
hearing
from
Bruce.
E
Okay,
we'll
make
sure
he's
prepared
for
that.
D
A
Yeah
I
I
know
again
looking
at
the
state
study
that
the
state
study
for
existing
construction
doesn't
have
this
criteria
at
all.
It
just
says:
2030
for
heat
and
hot
water
in
2035
for
drier
and
stove,
and
in
both
cases
it
says
at
the
end
of
their
useful
life.
So
that
would
be
an
alternative
approach
right
that
we
could
consider,
but
again
I'm
happy
to
wait
for
Bruce,
okay,
okay,.
G
Yeah
I
think
the
at
the
end
of
its
useful
life
might
be
helpful
language
for
us
here
as
well.
Right.
A
I
mean
the
state
wasn't
willing
to
impose
that
requirement
at
this
stage,
but
when
it,
the
Technology's
ready
or
the
incentives
are
in
place,
that
will
get
everything
over
time,
whereas
this
will
just
get
a
very
few
pieces.
You
know
when
a
complete
reconstruction
is
occurring,
so
I
just
want
to
hear
a
little
bit
more
to
assess
that.
Well,.
H
I
mean
like
I've,
never
I've,
never
done
a
major
renovation
I
own,
my
first
home,
but
and
it's
only
eight
years
old,
but
I
would
think
that
if
I
was
doing
a
renovation
of
my
home,
I
would
only
be
replacing
the
appliances
that
have
to
be
replaced.
You
know
like
I
if
I'm
doing
a
whole
new
kitchen,
but
my
stove
is
new
I,
don't
know.
G
Yeah
I
think
we
just
don't
want
to
end
up
in
the
opposite
situation,
where
somebody
is
doing
a
major
renovation,
and
that
includes
replacing
a
new
heating
or
cooling
system,
and
somehow
this
doesn't
apply
to
them.
We
do
want
to
catch
those
people
on
the
other
side
as
well,
right.
A
H
No
I
just
say
to
the
public
if
you
know,
if
you
have
thoughts
about
what
we're
talking
about
tonight
and
some
of
these
open
questions
that
we
have,
particularly
with
regards
to
Commercial
and
Industrial
and
Renovations
we'd
love
to
hear
from
you
next
week.
So
please
come
to
Monday
night's
meeting
and
tell
us
what
you
think,
especially
if
you
have
experience
with
these
things.
A
Okay,
what's
our
our
next
step
on
this.
E
H
G
A
All
right,
so
what
we'll
do
is
put
an
item
on
the
next
council
meeting
to
set
a
workshop.
D
A
A
Next
up
is
and
HVAC
maintenance
services
agreement
with
carrion
Walsh
for
City
Hall
and
that's
Chris.
Yes,.
B
So
this
is
a
two-year
agreement
with
carrion
Walsh
Inc,
which
does
the
the
maintenance
and
repairs
on
our
HVAC
system,
both
at
City
Hall
and
the
highway
department.
We
were
going
through
contracts
that
expired
at
the
end
of
the
year
and
realized
that
this
needed
to
be
renewed.
It's
over
twenty
thousand
dollars,
so
I'm
not
able
to
sign
it
without
bringing
it
to
council,
the
other
one
for
the
highway
department
is
under
20
and
I
can
sign
that
and
both
of
these
have
been
budgeted
for.
B
We've
had
a
great
experience
with
carrion
Walsh
and
yeah.
There's
there's
no
issues
other
than
we
tried
to
go
from
a
one-year
contract
to
two
years
so
that
we
don't
have
to
do
this
every
year.
I
B
We're
closed
for
the
one
of
the
two
presidents
days,
which
are
recognized
as
a
union
holiday
here.
K
B
D
B
The
pricing
I
think
is
the
same
as
the
last
contract.
E
So
on
October
12
2022,
the
planning
board,
approved
a
two
lot
subdivision
at
the
intersection
of
Justin
Street
and
Union
Street
as
part
of
the
landing
board's
approval,
they
required
that
the
property
owner
imposed,
what's
called
a
sight
line
easement
on
their
property.
In
essence,
your
code
requires
that
up
for
properties
at
intersections
there'd
be
a
sideline
easement
which
prevents
obstruction
from
being
placed
within
that
area,
so
that
when
one
comes
to
a
stop
line,
they
can
make
that
turn
around
the
corner
to
make
sure
there
are
no
obstructions
or
vehicles
coming
in
their
way.
E
So
this
sight
line
even
would
be
imposed
to
the
benefit
of
the
city
and
allow
the
city
to
maintain
that
sideline
whether
it's
removable
trees.
Perhaps
it's
a
decorative
stone
wall
or
something
that
is
placed
within
that
sight
line,
and
this
is
there
for
increased
Public
Safety.
It
was
reviewed
by
the
planning
board
during
their
review
of
a
subdivision
and
in
your
packet
is
a
the
subdivision
map
that
shows
where
that
sight
line.
Easement
is
at
the
intersection
of
Judson,
Street
and
Union
Street.
H
And
Nick
I
haven't
seen
this
before
this
is.
This
is
typical
of
every
new
construction
at
an
intersection.
Is
that
right?
It
is
yes,
so
because
there
was
no
home
kind
of
closer
to
that
corner
and
really
nothing
going
on
at
that
corner.
There
was
never
an
easement,
but
now
that
there
are
a
house
is
going
there.
We
need
to
have
one.
A
E
Us
it's
not.
Construction
is
when
there
is
a
language
approval
issued
by
the
one
of
the
boards.
A
So
the
planning
board
is
the
trigger
right.
If
they,
if
they
see
something
that
they
decide,
needs
to
be
done.
E
E
I'm
just
checking
to
see
if
it
is
I
believe
it's
within
your
your
subdivision
code
and
also
can
be
required
as
part
of
the
site
plan.
A
H
You,
the
one
thing
I'm
thinking
about
with
this
easement,
so
just
in
full
disclosure,
I
live
about
80
feet
away
from
this
corner,
so
the
10
feet
is
from
where
the
lot
meets
the
road,
the
10
feet
going
up
each
Street,
and
so
that
doesn't
seem
like
much
of
a
a
sight
line.
Easement
is
that
10
feet
dictated
by
something?
Was
it
a
request
by
the
planning
board,
or
is
it
something
that
can
be
influenced.
E
B
B
Yeah,
so
we
during
the
repaving
last
year,
we
moved
from
having
Loops
under
the
ground
by
these
by
lights,
that
triggered
when
the
lights
would
change
and
we
convinced
neistat
to
work
with
us
to
to
in
put
in
detection
cameras
so
that,
like
if
a
light,
doesn't
have
some
type
of
detection
device.
It's
just
on
a
timer,
and
then
you
sit
there
for
30
seconds
or
45
seconds.
With
these
detection
devices,
usually
the
loop
in
the
ground
or
the
video.
B
B
And
this
is
the
way
that
we're
trying
to
move
with
all
of
the
the
intersection
signals
like
the
ones
that
we're
doing
on
Fishkill
teller
Avenue,
which
is
now
out
to
bid
as
of
Friday.
Those
are
also
going
to
be
camera
activated
and
that
that's
more
efficient.
So
you
don't
have
people
sitting
there
idling
their
cars
and
then,
when
we
Mill
and
pave,
we
don't
dig
up
these
wire
Loops
that
are
underground.
B
B
Change
that
that
sets
a
different
time:
okay,
yeah,
that
that
sets
a
dedicated
time
for
The
Pedestrian
across
and
again
when
we
do
Fishkill
teller
Avenue,
we
have
moved,
we
have
included
the
interval,
The
Pedestrian,
lead
interval
in
Main,
Street
and
teller
and
I.
Believe.
We've
done
that
at
verplank
as
well.
G
B
So
these
these
cameras
are
motion
detectors
only
they
they
don't
read
license
plates.
They
don't
issue
fines.
They
don't
do
facial
recognition,
they're,
pretty
basic
cameras
that
just
recognize
the
presence
of
a
car
and
then
would
change
the
light
based
on
the
the
lack
of
presence,
of
course,
at
the
other
parts
of
the
intersection.
B
K
A
Okay,
we
good
all
right
so
the
next
time
it's
got
two
bits
to
it:
priorities
in
community
quarterly.
What
do
we
want
to
take
on?
First
I.
H
B
G
G
Yeah
so
I'm
sorry,
I
I
only
sent
an
updated
version
of
this
outline
with
specific
dates
right
before
this
meeting.
So
then,
maybe
if,
after
this
meeting,
you
could
update
what's
on
the
website,
so
the
public
can
view
that
would
be
great.
But
the
only
change
from
our
discussion
two
weeks
ago
was
specific
proposed
dates
for
the
first
three
quarterlies
and
Tuesday
on
on
timeline.
G
I
think
the
two
big
question
marks
are:
if
the
proposed
public
forum
dates
work
for
at
least
the
majority
of
council,
and
if
we
can
find
a
location
since
obviously
tomkin's
hose
is
not
a
possibility
and
then
the
other
question
for
us
to
answer
is
if
we're
prepared
in
the
workshop
meeting
tonight
to
determine
our
essential
question
around
green
infrastructure.
That
we'd,
like
the
community
to
answer.
G
So
I
don't
know
if
folks
have
a
sense
of
their
schedules
enough
to
check
those
three
dates
or
if
we
should
address
the
calendar.
I
G
I
think
the
other
question
was
cycle.
Two
is
that
we
were
interested
in
that
one
coinciding
with
the
recreation
and
Community
Services
ongoing
project.
Obviously
we
just
heard
from
Mark
about
this
intention
to
revamp
and
potentially
revamped
the
recreation
Committee
in
particular
and
potentially
start
talking
to
somebody
about
a
feasibility
study.
G
The
sort
of
idea
of
the
community
quarterly
is
that
it's
a
fairly
light
touch
process,
so
it
doesn't
have
to
be
necessarily
tied
to
other
specific
dates
other
than
our
availability.
To
show
up
to
the
public
forum.
I
I
That,
second,
one,
if
we
could
also
talk
with
Mark,
about
what
he
thinks
might
be
feasible
by
then,
and
there
might
be
other
topics,
particularly
as
we
get
into
priorities,
that
kind
of
bubble
up,
as
we
have
lots
of
ideas
on
Council
and
I
Heard
lots
of
other
ideas
that
maybe
could
also
be
either
two
or
three
as
well,
and
that
might
also
help
determine
timing.
I
Was
your?
Was
your
goal
Paloma
in
terms
of
setting
the
dates
for
all
four
Cycles?
All
three
Cycles
is
that
you
well
the
fourth
being
the
the
public
participation
one
with
the
high
schools
that
you
want
to
publish
them
all
at
once,.
G
G
K
A
K
G
Yeah
there
is
the
thought.
Well,
the
first
thought
was
that
it's
the
topic
that
we
didn't
didn't
do
last
year
in
this
format,
though,
of
course
we
did
the
survey
and
that
point
as
well
taken
the
thought
from
two
weeks
ago,
as
I
recall,
was
that
it
might
be
a
helpful
supplement
and
momentum
around
recruiting
for
the
whatever.
The
next
phase
is
of
the
development
of
the
facility
is
which
we
only
just
identified
an
hour
ago,
is
the
revamping
of
the
Recreation
committee.
H
D
A
H
The
discussion
about
Public
Safety
yeah.
A
So
right
yeah
how
about
Rail,
Trail,
yeah,
I.
H
Fjord
Trail
folks
and
they're
eager
to
do
some
public
Outreach
I
was
going
to
suggest
Justice
and
I
do
something
for
the
neighbors
that
are
down
by
the
river.
But
we
could
open
it
up
to
be
a
bigger
thing
as
well.
I
H
You
know
what
I
can
reach
out
to
Tom
Wright
and
ask
him
like
what
what
kind
of
conversation
he
thinks
is
needed
right
now,
like
what
he'd
like
what
he'd
like
to
hear
and
talk
to,
people
about
and
Tom
always
has
great
insights
into
this
stuff,
and
he
has
Greenway
Trail
he's
excited
about
all
these
new
connections.
So
maybe
this
is
a
path
mama.
What
do
you
think
of
this
as
a
rough
concept?
Yeah.
G
H
To
replace
wreck
with
with
talking
about
trails.
K
I,
like
the
sound
of
that,
and
if
anything
we
have
time
to
adjust
it
should
we
choose,
but
I
think
that's
a
great
place
to
go
forward
and
then
we
still
also
have
a
third
topic
to
figure
out
as
well.
So.
G
I
will
say
that
does
leave
a
bit
of
overlap
with
the
initial
idea
for
this
first
cycle
being
around
climate
goals
and
green
infrastructure.
Do
we
have
thoughts
on
how
to
hone
that
that
topic
into
essential
question.
G
Because
I'm
also
happy
to
say
it
seems
like
the
topic
that
there
is
currently
at
least
the
most
momentum
around
is
the
idea
that
around
trails,
and
so
if
we
just
want
to
maybe
adjust
the
timeline
to
give
us
a
little
more
time
to
plan
and
engage
on
that
topic
in
this
first
cycle.
I
think
that
works
too.
K
I
mean
we're
we're
asking
a
broad
question
for
then
community
members
to
then
go
into
with
more
detail
and
then
provide
a
solution.
Correct
I
think
one
of
the
questions
that
we
could
ask
and
just
thrown
pasta
at
the
wall
here
is
what
community
climate
initiatives
do
you
think
the
city
could
help
support.
H
A
G
D
G
Okay,
great
so
we're
gonna
leave
the
adjust
the
cycle
two
and
cycle.
Potentially
the
cycle,
three
dates,
but
also
leave
them.
G
Leave
them
loose
and
I
will
plug
all
of
this
into
our
usual
materials
and
see
if
I
can
get
this
out
into
the
world.
G
G
Great.
Thank
you
all.
I
I
All
right,
do
you
want
me
to
kick
this
off
as
I
put
together
the
list
so
I'm
going
to
start
with
for
those
who
are
listening
in
or
watching
this
recording
that
in
the
very
end
of
the
packet,
there
is
a
list
of
some
of
our
priorities
for
the
year.
I
So
this
is
something
that
the
city,
council
and
the
administrator
have
been
doing
for
a
number
of
years,
trying
to
lay
out
the
priorities
on
a
calendar
basis,
and
so
we
first
wanted
to
share
it
with
all
of
you,
so
you're
going
to
see
a
list.
This
is
a
list
that
I
compiled.
So
part
of
the
discussion
that
we
might
engage
in
tonight
is
going
through
this
and
figuring
out.
Is
this
the
right
list
are.
Are
these
the
things
on
here?
I
We
actually
do
want
to
work
on,
particularly
in
this
calendar
year
as
anything
that's
missing,
and
then
we
may
or
may
not
use
it
as
we
go
through
the
year.
But
it's
more
kind
of
the
the
purpose
in
past
year
seems
to
be
more
about
setting
our
year
off
right.
I
know
that
Chris
definitely
uses
his
and
reviews
them.
I
The
city
council
kind
of
off
and
on
depending
on
how
we
feel
like
it
I,
might
personally
review
it
and
go
through
it
and
see
how
we
go,
but
I'll
have
to
follow
and
see
to
do
that,
and
so
what
I
have
some
ideas
about
how
we
could
go
through
it.
One
other
thing
too
to
note:
if
you're
looking
at
the
list
and
going
my
goodness
that's
a
long
list
of
things,
it
certainly
is
I
just
want
to
note
that
there's
a
bunch
of
things
on
here
that
are
capital
projects.
I
So
these
are
things
that
are
part
of
a
separate
Capital
project
process
that
we
do
every
year,
starting
around
the
end
of
May,
and
so
that's
something.
These
are
projects
that
either
we
know
are
coming
up
or
are
ongoing,
and
then
we
have
what
I'll
call
City
operations.
So
that's
stuff
that
may
or
may
not
involve
a
lot
of
the
involvement
of
the
city
council,
but
something
definitely
takes
up
a
lot
of
Chris's
time
as
the
administrator
and
the
heads
of
Department
to
keep
moving
forward.
H
D
D
H
I
That's
all
right,
yeah,
so
I
am
happy
to
open
it
up
to
the
council
to
if
there's
anything
and
Chris.
If
there's
anything
on
here
that
you
want
to
make
sure
is
added
I
actually
thought
it
might
be
good
to
almost
do
the
opposite.
There
are
some
items
that
are
on
here.
That
I
wanted
to
see.
I
Is
this
something
that
we're
feeling
like
we
want
to
put
energy
around
in
2023
or
something
that
we're
like
maybe
later
so
I
want
to
keep
it
on
there
for
now,
but
it
might
shift
so
I'm.
Actually,
thinking
it'd
be
better
to
kind
of
focus
on
that
of
focusing
on
removing
of
items,
but
if,
if
council
members
have
things,
they
feel
they're
more
keen
to
talk
about
I'm
fine
with
that
too.
H
H
We
included
that
in
the
budget
last
year,
so
I
assume
that
we're
going
ahead
with
that
and
I
don't
know
I
don't
want
to
kind
of
vote
on
some
things
a
second
time
you
know,
but
a
lot
of
this
stuff
I,
don't
know
it's
it's
hard
to
like
there's.
There's
categories
like
the
fire
chief
replacement,
you
know.
I
would
consider
that
to
be
something
that
has
to
be
done,
not
whether
we're
choosing
whether
to
do
it
or
not
so
but
I
could
be
also.
I
D
I
I
We
said
that
was
one
of
our
priorities,
but
I
don't
think
we
have
said
yes,
we've
authorized
the
spending
of
like
we
said
it's
going
to
be
I
think
it
was
thirty
thousand
dollars.
And
yes,
we
want
to
do
that.
But
there's
a
couple
of
things
like
Chris
I.
Think
at
one
meeting
mentioned
like
there
are
a
handful
of
things
that
the
council
says
we
probably
cannot
do
them
all
in
2023
and
so
which
ones
do
we
want
to
prioritize?
Is
that
an
accurate
description,
Chris
yeah.
B
The
the
money
is
in
the
budget
we
put
in
fifty
thousand
dollars
into
the
city
council
line
for
studies
I.
We
would
have
to
go
back
and
figure
out
which
ones
you
want
to
do
because,
right
now
you
have
requests
for
three.
That's
the
traffic
study,
which
I
think
was
around
fifteen
thousand.
It
wasn't
as
much
as
we
thought
if
you
want
to
do
a
feasibility
study.
I,
don't
really
have
a
number
on
that,
yet
we
can
try
to
figure
out
where
that
goes.
B
I
need
to
convene
with
Mark
and
hopefully
a
Rec
committee,
about
what
the
next
steps
would
be
on
that
you
also
have
some
members
of
the
CAC
asking
for
the
open
space
plan
and
I've
kind
of
kicked
that
to
later
in
the
year.
Just
because
we
we're
getting
bids
out
this
spring
on
a
lot
of
projects
and
I
just
didn't
have
bandwidth
to
deal
with
it.
B
So
I
mean
if
you,
if
again
50
000,
might
not
be
the
right
number,
and
maybe
we
need
to
tweak
that
a
little
bit,
we
kind
of
put
it
in
as
a
placeholder,
but
it
would
be
helpful
to
know
like
in
in
terms
of
those
in
any
other
studies,
what
what
are
your
priorities
for
the
year
and
that's
that's
really
where
it
becomes
helpful.
Like
you
know,
do
you
want
to
do
the
traffic
study
first
or
do
you
want
to
try
to
start
some
feasibility
study?
B
We
might
be
able
to
get
grant
funding
if
we
wait
until
later
in
the
year.
For
the
oh,
the
open
space,
one.
H
I,
you
know,
I
I,
know
that
we're
we're
looking
at
this
list
and
saying,
oh,
my
God.
How
are
we
going
to
do
all
this
this
year?
But
you
know
a
lot
of
this
stuff
is
not
Council
business.
This
is
Chris's
business
and
and
I
feel
like
the
stuff
that
is
Council
business
on
here
is
not
an
unmanageable
amount
of
stuff.
I
mean
there's,
there's
some
things
on
here
that
we
haven't
talked
about
in
a
while.
Like
view
sheds,
which
is
a
conversation,
we
definitely
need
to
take
back
up,
but
you
know,
and.
B
D
A
Like
this
next
logical
steps,
I
had
the
same
kind
of
look
at
this,
as
you
did
Dan,
which
is
and
which
is
what
I
tried
to
say
in
our
email,
the
email,
which
is
what
things
that
we
as
a
council
want
to
work
on
right.
Knowing
that
you
know
the
day-to-day
operations,
there's
a
number
that
are
labeled
operations,
it
has
to
get
done
by
the
city
and
that
the
capital
projects
that
are
teed
up
have
to
get
executed
by
the
administration
right,
which
means
you
know,
Chris
will
say
no
mas,
no
boss
and.
A
Of
that's
right,
but
that
means
that
there
are
things
that
we
as
a
council
can,
you
know,
can
work
on
which
is
typically,
you
know
some
of
the
things
you
guys
just
listed
right.
You
know:
do
we
pick
up
parking
zoning?
Do
we
pick
up
hdlo?
Do
we
pick
up?
You
know
those
things
I
think
we
should
be
right.
We
had
a
list
from
a
while
ago.
A
You
know
the
state
is
now
putting
out
some
plans.
We
should
probably
start
to
ask
our
planner.
You
know
how
do
those
plants
fit
with
what
we're
thinking
does
it
fit
with
some
of
our
grants?
I
think
we
started
some
conversations
with
some
of
the
large,
affordable,
the
housing
program,
administrators
and
we're
starting
to
look
to
them
to
like
okay.
Would
you
like
to
put
something
forward?
A
I
H
A
Really
I
think
we
pick
the
sites
for
view
sheds.
There
were
pre-existing
ones
that
the
ones
facing
the
Hudson
which
came
on
during
our
local
Waterfront
revitalization
plan
and
then
I
think
we
identified
a
few
facing
the
other
way,
but
that's
a
task
where
we
bring
John
Clark
in
and
we
work
with
him
right.
So
that's
a
resource
that
we
can
use
without
taxing
the
administration
of
the
city.
Right,
that's,
you
know,
got
to
work
the
Ops
and
got
to
work.
The
major.
I
Speaking
of
John
Clark,
we've
talked
about
the
a
sidewalk
inventory
as
well.
Is
that
something
that
we
think
we
want
to
at
least
keep
as
a
possibility?
I
mean
part
of
this
is,
as
we
know,
is
yes,
we
have
capacity,
but
you
know
we
are
all
part-time
and
Chris
is
kind
of
our
conduit
into
getting
things
happen
and
our
budget,
and
so
wanting
to
I
appreciate
that
us
saying
we're
interested
in
this.
Isn't
us
saying?
A
A
I
think
on
sidewalks
again
we
could
ask
for
some
material
to
be
assembled
so
that
by
the
time
that
we
do
our
Capital
planning,
we
can
talk
about
okay
right.
Do
we
have
a
piece
of
our
annual
Capital
planning
for
that
right,
so
I
think
we
could
do
that.
I!
Think
it's
a
Clark
task
Chris.
What
do
you
think
always
wants
to
kick?
Okay,
you're.
B
Lucky
I'm,
not
closer
yeah
I
mean
so
when
I
think
about
sidewalks.
I
know
that
in
this
next
year,
we're
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
rebuild
the
sidewalks
on
South
Avenue,
which
is
a
lot
more
complex
than
it
originally
looked
like,
because
we
don't
own
the
sidewalks
and
we
have
to
negotiate
an
easement.
I
also
think
about
the
fact
that
I
have
areas
on
Main
Street
that
probably
really
need
replacement
so
like
to
start
a
process
where
we're
going
to
figure
out
other
new
sidewalks
to
add.
A
What
that
sounds
like
I?
What
I
hear
is
that
not
that
we
shouldn't
be
having
the
conversation,
but
we
have
to
remember
the
items
we
have
to
put
up
sooner
rather
than
later,
I.
B
Mean
I
I
would
like
to
have
a
conversation
with
John
about
how
he
would
approach
that,
and
maybe
he
can
come
to
council
and
say
you
know
you
already
have
a
sidewalk
and
I
mean
you
have
something
on
paper
that
it's
an
inventory.
The
inventory
isn't
so
much.
The
issue
is
the
condition
and
then
how
to
prioritize.
Where
you
know
the
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
year
that
we've
been
trying
to
allocate
to
sidewalks
goes
yep.
A
Yeah
and
I
I
think
we
could
learn
from
that
conversation
things
like
the
same
with
our
roads.
You
know
it's
a
lot
cheaper
to
scrape
no
Mill
and
pave
than
it
is
to
build
something
from
scratch,
and
it
could
be
with
sidewalks
too
that
merely
improving
the
ones
that
are
there.
We
can
get
a
lot
more
square
footage
done
than
you
know,
trying
to
build
from
scratch.
So
maybe
that's
part
of
the
conversation
that
we
would
learn.
That
would
help
inform
us
as
to
how
we
want
to
do
this
right.
Yeah.
D
B
D
H
Think
the
one
thing
I
want
to
add
here
is
that
you
know
those
of
us
who
live
in
the
wards
and
talk
to
our
neighbors
and
and
not
that
we're
more
in
tune
with
anyone
else.
But
we
are
talking
to
people
a
lot
and
we're
not
saying
that,
because
we
talk
to
folks
about
the
streets
and
the
sidewalks
that
there's
no
other
valuable
opinions,
but
I
think
each
of
us
have
a
strong
sense
of
where
the
danger
spots
in
our
neighbors
in
our
neighborhoods
are,
and
you
know,
Grove
Street
just
to
use.
H
As
an
example
is
yes,
it's
it's
probably
only
a
50
to
60
feet.
It
probably
would
be
you
know,
really
expensive.
It
probably
crosses
three
properties
and
gets
really
complicated,
but
it's
like
the
safety
of
kids
and,
like
you
know,
like
I,
that's
something
that
I
I,
think
Grove,
Street
and
I.
Think
Ren
would
agree
that
Grove
Street
is
is
a
priority
and
it's
not
I.
Don't
want
to
have
a
conversation
about
Grove
Street
right
now.
H
But
it's
you
know:
Main
Street,
you
know
when
the
Main
Street
sidewalks
get
fixed.
The
the
perception
is
that
that's
for
the
tourists.
Obviously
we
all
live
here
and
we
all
walk.
Those
sidewalks
and
people
feel
like
the
sidewalks
in
their
neighborhoods
are
not
getting
fixed
and.
B
B
I
would
start
I
think
your
existing
sidewalk
inventory
is
not
in
very
good
shape
in
many
areas
of
the
city
and
rather
than
start
building
new
sidewalks
I.
Think
there
are
a
lot
of
areas
is
where
we
need
to
make
Ada
improvements
where
we
need
to
go
back
like
on
Main
Street.
It
is
an
issue
of
course,
because
if
somebody
trips
and
falls
we're
the
first
one
that
they
sue
so
and
and
again,
I
think
I
think
you
can
get
there
over
time.
B
It's
just
I'm,
I
I,
don't
know
how
we
do
that
I'm
struggling
to
figure
out
how
I
get
the
ones
on
South
Avenue
done,
which
I
need
to
queue
up
for
the
cdbg
cramp
by
the
end
of
the
year.
I
need
to
almost
be
a
year
ahead
of
that
I'm,
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
figure
how
to
do
the
really
bad
spots
on
Main,
Street,
now
I
could
go
and
say
to
the
adjoining
landowner.
B
D
B
It
and
we
I
would
love
to
build
sidewalks
in
in
many
of
the
neighborhoods,
not
just
Grove,
but
I
mean
we've.
Had
people
come
multiple
times
it's
just.
How
do
you
do
it
when
you
know
that
the
cost
like
it's
only
50
or
60
feet,
but
you
have
to
do
a
retaining
wall?
Sure.
H
Yeah
yeah:
well,
we
can
I
mean
I
was
always
thinking
the
other
side
of
the
street
where
the
houses
are,
but
but
maybe
what
and
we
can
talk
about
this
with
John
like
maybe
what
we're
saying
is
you
know
we're
spreading
it
out
over
years
right
and
you
know
we're
a
five-year,
Capital
plan
and
maybe
we're
saying
okay,
we
do
we
do.
You
know
three
quarters
of
a
mile
every
year
or.
D
H
Established
like
a
benchmark,
it's
like
okay.
How
do
we
want
to?
We
have
enough
money
to
do
three
quarters
of
a
mile.
Where
do
we
want
those
three
quarters
of
a
mile
this
year
to
go
like
we
do
milling
and
Paving?
We
wear
the
sidewalks
and
That
Could
That
Could
alternate
between
repair
of
sidewalk
and
maybe
installation
of
new
sidewalk,
where
there's
maybe
a
an
explicit
safety
issue.
You
know
so
maybe
like
we
set
some
criteria
for.
A
H
Much
we
get
done
each
year
and
then
we
also
have
some
criteria
for
like
how
we
choose
the
projects,
because
I
don't
I'm,
not
I'm,
certainly
not
proposing
millions
and
millions
of
dollars
of
sidewalk,
while
you're
already
working
on
other
ones.
You.
B
Know
and
and
know
that
I
I
don't
disagree
that
I'd
love
to
put
a
sidewalk
there
and
many
of
the
other
places
that
people
have
said
that.
Ideally
you
want
to
extend
those
sidewalks
throughout
the
city
at
least
one
you
know,
particularly
in
areas
where
or
on
routes
to
school.
Maybe
John
can
help
us
figure
out
how
to
prioritize,
though,
and
figure
out
that
criteria
well.
A
Again,
I
think
that
that
is
where
we
can
go
I
think
we
need
to
be
mindful
a
road.
A
mile
of
road
is
at
least
20
times
more
expensive
than
milling
and
Paving
an
existing
Road
and
I'm
guessing
that
sidewalks
will
be
the
same
right.
That
new
is
a
whole.
You
know
Quantum
more
than
just
fixing
or
supporting
so,
but
let's
see
that
right
and.
B
Again
it
dependence
too,
like
these
ones,
on
South,
Avenue
I'm,
finding
out,
might
be
more
expensive
than
we
ever
thought
and
we
might
say:
okay,
maybe
we'd
go
to
Walka
and
do
those
you
know
I
only
just
learned
today
that
we
don't
own
those.
We
don't
own
the
sidewalk
so
part
of
it
as
you
as
you.
You
figure
out
what
you're
able
to
do
within
the
time
limits
that
you
have
right.
A
And
the
other
piece
of
the
puzzle
will
also
have
to
talk
about
is
how
it's
financed.
Remember
the
currently.
If
we're
doing
a
whole,
it
varies
what
we're
doing
as
to
who
Bears
responsibility.
I,
don't
recall
exactly
what
that
is,
but.
B
A
B
And
I
do
want
to
set
some
context,
we're
spending
a
lot
of
time
on
Fishkill
and
Teller.
Avenue
I've
spent
a
lot
of
time,
the
last
two
years.
That's
1.9
miles.
So
if
you
add
up
all
of
the
existing
sidewalks,
there
you're
probably
around
three
miles,
because
it's
not
a
complete
sidewalk
system,
it's
probably
somewhere
between
two
and
a
half
to
three
miles
of
new
sidewalk
that
we're
going
to
start
doing
in
the
spring
that
that's
a
pretty
big
jump
from
where
we've
been
before.
B
So
you
know
again,
I
know,
I
keep
going
back
to
that.
That
was
a
20-year
project.
We
got
it
to
bid
and
and
and
again
it's
going
to
be
one
of
the
biggest
Investments
that
we
make
as
a
city
and
sidewalks
in
years.
That's
great
yeah.
I
I'm
going
to
intervene
and
say
this
is
a
fabulous
conversation
and
also
we
can
I
think
this
is
a
great
example
of
how
we
can
think
of
this
moving
forward.
So
one
of
the
values
of
this
list
is,
we
can
say,
hey.
We
haven't
talked
about
this
like
housing,
which
we
shouldn't
talk
about
tonight,
just
to
be
clear,
so
sidewalk
stay
on
the
list,
so
I
think
for
that
we
can
return
to
like.
Oh,
we
haven't
like
we
have
this
conversation.
I
We
have
a
million
decisions
we
haven't
talked
about
when
we
want
to
bring
John
Clark
in
so
maybe
in
a
month
it
comes
back
as
like.
Oh
can
we
schedule
this
out
so
with
that
in
mind,
I
want
to
just
go
through
a
couple
other
items
on
the
list
and
just
see
if
we
want
to
keep
them
or
remove
them,
knowing
that
there
might
be
some
that
were
like
yes,
because
I
have
deep,
you
know
very
specific
thoughts
about
them.
Is
that
all
right.
I
B
B
I
It's
funny
I
went
through
and
changed
it
all
yeah.
If
you
have
yes,
you
and
I
can
connect
and
I
can
update
it
thanks
and
make
sure
that
it's
there
sorry
about
that.
I
So
with
we
have
we
had
a
category
called
communication
strategy.
It's
kind
of
very
Broad
and
I
just
wanted
to
see
if
anyone
on
Council
is
feeling
energy
around
looking
into
that
about
what
we
want
to
do
around
that.
H
Not
right
now,
but
I
want
to
bring
I
want
to
bring
it
up
again
at
budget
time
the
possibility
of
doing
targeted,
mailers
around
specific
issues.
Okay,
something
I
brought
up
before
and
I'll
I
still
think.
There's
I
think
there's
still
merit
to
that
great.
I
Land
acknowledgment,
Paloma
I,
know
something
you
and
I
were
working
on
and
specifically
around
trying
to
do
something
this
year.
Is
this
something
that
you
want
to
try
to
look
into
and
to
anyone
else
on
Council
I
only
call
out
Paloma
myself,
as
we
specifically
have
talked
about
it
before.
G
I
Support
federal
state
and
County
legislation
with
its
own
line
is
there
anything
in
particular
I
can
remove
it
as
its
own
line.
It
might
get
incorporated
into
other
items
as
we
go
through.
I
just
didn't
know.
If
there's
anything
particular
that
people
are
already
thinking
about.
H
I
Have
an
open-ended
one
I
think
all
right,
I'm
gonna,
look
at
those
look
at
this.
You
see
I
like
making
the
list
shorter,
as
well
as
add
more
notes,
climate
and
environmental
priorities.
There
are
a
whole
bunch
of
things
that
came
up.
It's
sort
of
going
to
be
a
topic
for
our
community
quarterly,
so
I
just
wanted
to
see
if
there's
anything
in
particular
that
any
of
the
council
wanted
to
make
sure
is
captured
for
something
specific
we're
thinking
about
for
2023.
A
A
That
so
I
would
just
pick
fewer
things
rather
than
try
to
pick
them
all.
We
pick
them
all.
We're
not
going
to
do
anything
well.
I
Dan
I
know
you
brought
up
stuff
around
Fishkill
Creek
Watershed
before.
Is
that
something
you're
hoping
to
keep
going?
The
conversation
this
year,
yeah.
H
We're
just
waiting
to
hear
back
from
Nick
on
what
the
what
some
of
the
other
municipalities
in
New
York
state
are
doing
to
protect
their
waterways
and
wetlands.
At
the
city
level,
great.
I
B
You're
going
to
finish
your
leaf
blower
law
at
some
point,
I
think
we're
trying
to
bring
that
back
in
March
we're
trying
to
get
through
the
rec
study
and
the
the
electrification
law
and
then
get
back
to
that
too.
I
I
Good
Main
Street
Green
Space.
This
is
something
we
want.
It's
a
recommendation
from
the
Main
Street
access
committee,
which
I
know
we
are
talking
about
the
recommendations
as
a
whole
separately.
Is
there
anything
we
want
to
as
a
council
kind
of
talk
specifically
about
the
idea
of
adding
Green
Space
to
Main
Street
and
where
that
might
be
in
in
this
coming
calendar
year,.
A
So
I
think
you
need
to
wait
for
the
Main
Street
access
report.
It's
going
to
be
divided
into
and
we're
already
implementing
some
of
the
short-term
things
so
that
just
becomes
part
of
the
operational
activities
of
the
city,
the
parks.
Actually,
that's,
not
a
recommendation.
They're
initial
that
was
initiated
by
that
group.
It's
in
our
comprehensive
plan.
D
A
Right,
if
we
want
to
do
that,
that's
going
to
take
a
couple
years
of
planning
to
lay
out,
even
if
we
just
pick
one
of
those
to
pursue
that's
planning
issues,
so
that
has
a
kind
of
a
medium-term
time
frame.
We
can
talk
about
that
I
think.
Maybe
one
way
to
do
that
is
to
talk
about
with
Clark
what
are
sort
of
planning.
You
know
and
Zoning
things
that
we
want
to
work
on.
If
we
want
to
do
that
again,
it's
not
something
you
do
in
you
know
a
six-month
period.
A
A
A
I
think
that
once
we
get
the
Main
Street
access
committee
it'll
divide
into
okay,
these
will
take
on
operationally.
Then
the
question
becomes.
What
do
you
want
to
do
with
the
rest?
The
one
thing
you
do
is
you
stick
them
in
the
comprehensive
plan,
but
then
you
ask
the
question:
is
there
some
piece
of
this
that
I
want
to
pursue?
That
becomes
a
project
right,
that
you've
got
to
get
resource
for.
I
Renter
info
on
City
website,
I
think
this
is
when
we
were
talking
about
good
cause
and
wanting
to
do
more
of
this.
Is
this
something
where
the
members
of
council
are
feeling
some
interest
and
getting
additional
information
on
our
website
for
renters
for
landlords.
G
I
think
it
would
be
helpful,
but
not
as
helpful
as
know
your
rights
events,
which
is
something
that
I
don't
know,
is
within
the
capacity
of
the
city
to
take
on,
but
is
certainly
a
personal
priority.
I
J
Those
lines
I
think
two
will
need
to
have
a
discussion
regarding
good
cause
eviction.
Given
that
the
fact
that
it's
been
two
municipalities,
that's
been
struck
down
and
I
think
it
will
will
have
to
face
its
decision
as
to
where
we
want
to
go.
G
You
know:
well,
isn't
it
in
our
legislation
to
revisit
the
effect
of
the
law
later
this
year.
J
And
also,
let's
see
what
kind
of
usage
the
legal
aid
has
gotten
in
the
courts
and
if
it's
actually
diminished
potential
evictions.
G
Great,
thank
you,
I
can
say
anecdotally.
It
definitely
has
but
I
appreciate
wanting
to
do
a
comprehensive
review.
I
Revise
Seeker
requirements,
the
State
Environmental
Quality
review
requirements.
This
was
on
here,
I,
don't
know
if
it's
something
we
already
did
or
something
we
had
to
address
in
2023.
D
K
A
J
I
Oh
I
just
wanted
to
check
with
the
trail
stuff,
so
we
talked
about
the
greenway
Trail.
We've
talked
about
the
rail
trail
that
the
county
is
running
and
it
sounds
like
you
had
a
meeting
with
fewer
Trail
Dan
recently,
I
just
didn't
know
if
there's
anything
else
related
to
Trails
that
we
wanted
to
capture
separately
on
here,
like
if
the
shuttle
for
the
fewer
Trail
or
something
else
the
city
wants
to
get
involved
in.
I
If
we're
doing
any,
having
discussions
about
the
tier
Rhonda
bridge
this
year
or
again,
that's
waiting
until
we
you
know
a
later
year,
we
find
out
more
about
the
fewer
Trail.
The.
I
H
I
mean
making
progress
on
that
bridge
is
a
priority
of
mine
is
definitely
a
it's
been
a
priority
of
Lee's
for
many
years,
but
I
think
we're
in
kind
of
a
yeah.
We
have
to
work
through
this
okay,
great.
I
And
then,
lastly,
I
have
sort
of
two
that
I
kind
of
connected
sort
of
a
social
service
inventory
and
surface
Communications
actually
based
on
our
conversation
earlier
with
Mark.
This
might
be
something
the
rec
committee
could,
in
its
future,
iteration
take
on,
but
I
just
wanted
to
see.
If
it's
something
that
we
should
keep
on
our
priorities
list
for
now,.
G
I
would
like
to
keep
it
on
the
priorities
list.
If
we're
talking
about
Communications
I,
think
this
is
one
of
the
most
important
things
that
we
can
be
communicating,
but
I
also
agree
with
you,
as
as
Mark
shared
with
us,
he's
sort
of
already
doing
this
being
a
dispatcher
for
service
needs
and
so
giving
his
Department
more
support
to
to
do.
That
is
I.
Think
the
long
term
solution
great.
I
All
right,
so
that
is
everything
I
just
wanted
to
review
and
just
make
sure
that
I'm
thinking
about
is
there
anything
else.
People
wanted
to
add.
That
is
not
already
on
the
list
that
has
not
already
been
discussed
or
the
items
are
making
sure
that
I'm
updating
it
with
information
you're
giving
me
in
that
case,
yeah
I
will
take
a
look
at
this
and
bring
it
back,
and
then
I
will
talk
Chris
and
Nick.
Maybe
with
you
just
about
sharing
this
with
the
public
ongoing.
I
H
Molly,
you
said
you
did
you
in
the
newest
draft.
You
included
the
public
benefits
and
the
park
fees.
H
Out
loud,
so
just
a
review
of
a
review
of
when
and
where
we
require
public
benefits
as
part
of
a
develop
of
new
construction
and
and
and
just
kind
of
reassess
and
see.
If
we
want
to
do
more
and
then
the
other
thing
is
to
reassess
our
Park
fees
for
new
construction,
when
there's
fees
for
projects
where
the
the
the
the
building
or
the
property
won't
be
able
to
provide
adequate
recreational
space
for
the
the
people
who
live
there,
I
think
is
the
is
the
logic
behind
the
fees
and
I.
H
I
just
want
to
suggest
that
at
the
end
of
Workshop
meetings,
we
just
take
five
minutes
to
assess
to
just
talk
about.
What's
next,
we
used
to
do
these
before
covid.
The
short
two
months
would
meet
in
your
office
after
meetings
to
talk
about
work
upcoming
Workshop.
Maybe
we
could
have
a
short
public
version
of
that
yeah.
D
I
Great
yeah
I'll
just
finish
off
by
saying
we
have
actually
probably
have
other
complete
items
on
here
as
Chris
said,
but
one
that
caught
my
eye
was
we
had
our
HR
Director
wanted
to
form
a
Safety,
Committee
and
she's
actually
already
formed
it
amongst
our
city
employees.
So
that's
going
to
be
an
ongoing
thing
that
she's
working
on,
but
I
marked
it
complete
on
here.
She
already
got
it
up
and
running
and
there's
some
things
they've
been
able
to
do
so.
That's
a
great
win
for
our
city.