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From YouTube: Beacon Council Workshop 3-6-23
Description
The City of Beacon Council Workshop from March 6, 2023
A
Okay,
all
right
welcome
everybody
to
a
workshop
for
March
6
2023.
I'll
be
sitting
in
for
the
mayor,
but
the
mayor
will
be
online
and
joining
us
remotely.
Everyone
else
is
here
and.
A
We'll
start
with
our
first
item
on
the
agenda,
which
is
proposed
Renovations
and
pilot
agreement
for
Tompkins
Terrace
Housing
Development.
We
have
Judd
Siebert
from
Keenan
Bean
representing
the
city's
interests
and
we
have
Justin
Glenda
from
related,
affordable.
Also
we'll
be
here
for
any
questions
or
part
of
our
discussion.
C
Sure
yeah
sure
and
thank
you
for
having
me
I-
did
distribute
as
part
of
the
board
packet
on
Friday
and
then
just
some
slight
revisions.
C
Today,
memorandum
to
the
board
really
walking
through
our
view
of
what
the
city's
council's
being
asked
to
do
in
terms
of
granting
an
exemption,
really
a
continued
exemption
for
this
project
and
the
corresponding
payment
lieu
of
taxes,
agreement
I
apologize,
it's
seven
pages
single
spaced
I
know
that's
what
everybody
wanted
to
spend
their
weekend
reading,
but
I
think
this
really
warranted
or
merited
that
kind
of
an
analysis,
because.
C
C
It's
been
there
for
50
years,
it
is
owned
and
it
was
maintained
and
and
really
created
by
a
company
that
was
formed
under
as
I
mentioned
in
the
memo,
the
private
Housing
Finance
law,
it's
a
section
or
a
set
of
State
statutes
that
create
all
kinds
of
mechanisms
and
types
of
companies
that
can
that
own
and
operate
income
restricted
housing.
C
The
particular
entity
that
owns
Tompkins,
Terrace
Now
is
really
kind
of
formed.
What
all
kind
of
called
the
old
kind
of
the
old
regime
article
two
of
the
of
the
phfl,
which
for
its
time
really
served.
You
know
the
the
intended
and
salutatory
purpose
of
getting
companies
formed,
getting
them
to
develop
these
projects,
get
them
in
the
ground
and
get
them
running.
C
C
They
are
going
to
form
an
HDFC
solely
for
the
purpose
of
acquiring
the
Tompkins
Terrace
property,
with
that
HDFC
acquisition,
they're
able
to
attract
investment,
lending
tax-exempt,
Bond
resources
through
the
Ida
to
basically
pull
the
capital
together
to
do
two
things:
one
acquire
the
property
and
secondly-
and
you
know
it's
really
key-
undertake
some
significant
Capital
Improvements
over
14
14
and
a
half
million
dollars
in
Capital
Improvements
and
as
a
kind
of
part
and
parcel
of
all
this
again
under
the
same
statute.
C
The
the
state
recognizes
that,
in
order
to
make
these
types
of
projects
a
go,
there
needs
to
be
all
forms
of
tax
relief,
low-income
housing,
tax
credits.
It
really
doesn't
involve
the
city
council,
but
certainly
property
tax
relief,
so
under
the
phfl
governing
the
local
legislative
body
of
a
municipality
in
which
one
of
these
developments
is
located
can
grant
an
exemption
of
up
to
40
years,
and
while
the
statute
does
not
talk
about
piloting
Authority,
it
is
recognized
as
part
of
that
Grant
of
that
exemption
that
a
pilot
agreement
could
be
entered
into.
C
So
those
are
the
two
things
that
the
city
council
is
being
asked
to
do
one
Grant
an
exemption
and
to
enter
into
the
proposed
pilot
as
presented
by
related
one
thing
to
keep
in
mind.
The
property
is
currently
tax
exempt
because
it
is
owned
by
this
article
too
phfl
company
that
pilot
will
con
or
that
exemption
will
continue
in
effect
for
another
10
years
or
so.
C
But
when
that
ends,
there's
going
to
be
a
question
mark
as
to
the
continued
viability
of
this
particular
Housing
Development,
you
need
you
need
someone
to
come
in,
acquire
it,
make
the
capital
investment
and,
and
let
it
continue,
and
that's
what
that's,
what
the
exemption
will
do
40-year
period
and
that's
what
the
pilot
will
do
because,
again,
you
know
these
types
of
projects
in
order
to
attract
the
capital
there
need
there
needs
to
be
a
give
in
terms
of
property,
tax
relief
and
really
creating
kind
of
Financial
Security
over
the
exemption
period.
C
As
to
what
you
know,
what
would
be
expected
to
satisfy
what
otherwise
would
be
a
tax
burden?
C
I
went
through
the
various
terms
in
the
in
the
memo.
The
the
the
exemption
piece
is
easy.
That's
that's,
40
years
that
that's
authorized
by
the
statute,
the
pilot
itself,
the
the
formula
for
the
pilot
you
can
you
can
you
can
come
up
with
any
kind
of
payment
formula
you
want
for
a
pilot.
C
The
payment
formula.
That's
currently,
in
effect
for
Tompkins
Terrace
is
the
payment
of
a
of
a
of
a
set
amount
determined
annually
based
upon
what's
called
shelter.
Rent
shelter,
rent
is
all
of
the
income
derived
from
operation
of
the
premises
by
the
op
by
the
owner
operator,
and
then
you
back
out
the
cost
of
a
set
number
of
utilities,
heat
electricity,
water,
and
that
gives
you
a
base
figure
of
that
10
percent
is
paid
annually
to
satisfy
the
pilot
obligation
that
shelter
rent
formula
has
been
around
a
long
time.
C
C
Really
both
sides
want
some
predictability,
certainly
the
the
owner
and
the
owners.
Investors
want
it
because
they
they
want
to
have
a
clear
picture
of
what
the
outlay
is
going
to
be
over
a
40-year,
Time
Horizon
and
for
this
city
and
for
all
the
taxing
jurisdictions.
C
It's
helpful
because
you
really
have
a
a
set
figure
and
a
set
Target
that
you
know
you're
going
to
have
year
to
year.
Instead
of
trying
to
kind
of
predict,
I
mean
I
just
had
another
taxi
jurisdiction,
I'm
working
with
in
Rockland
County
that
they
have
maybe
10
or
12
Pilots
that
have
different
kind
of
formulas,
and
it's
like
what?
What
are
we
going
to
get?
What
are
we
going
to
get
out
of
these
next
year
because
we
have
to
report
it
for
tax
Camp
purposes?
It
can
be.
C
You
know
it
can
really
cause
some
budgetary
and
tax
cap
complications,
so
I
think
there's
a
real
benefit
to
the
city
in
in
in
proceeding
in
that
way,
the
two
and
a
quarter
percent
increase
is
kind
of
tied
really
to
a
you
know,
kind
of
a
prediction
of
overall
increase
in
tax
levy
kind
of
recognizing
the
tax
cap
in
Beacon.
We've
had
other
arrangements,
the
Highland
Meadows,
for
example.
We
tied
several
years
ago.
We
decided
to
tie
it
to
the
tax
rate.
C
There's
only
one
problem
with
that
is
with
all
of
the
assessment,
expansion
and
Beacon.
The
tax
rates
have
gone,
the
rates
have
gone
down,
so
you
know,
I
prefer
a
you
know
a
set
percentage
and
with
regard
to
kind
of
the
overall
pilot
payment
and
what
it
means
in
terms
of
Demands
from
the
project.
This
is,
you
know
we're
not
talking
about
the
creation
of
193
new
units
of
Housing
and
influx
or
a
you
know,
a
sudden,
increased
Demand
on
city
services
or
Services
of
any
of
the
taxing
jurisdiction.
C
Those
those
impacts
are
out
there
they're
there.
Now,
because
again,
this
has
been
in
place
for
over
for
50
years,
so
I
mean
you
know,
sort
of
all
in
my,
although
I
gave
a
series
of
observations
about
you
know
my
my
view,
my
recommendation
is
that
you
have
a
very
sound
proposal
and
one
that
is
going
to
preserve
this.
This
asset
for,
for
an
extended
period
of
time.
A
Okay,
thanks
Judd
I
appreciate
the
introduction.
Does
anyone
have
any
thoughts
on
this
or.
D
I
had
a
question
for
you,
Judd
and
maybe
for
Chris.
What's
the
advantage
of
the
city
putting
the
pilot
in
place
rather
than
Ida.
C
C
If,
if
this
were
an
Ida
project,
a
pure
Ida
project,
the
idea
would
come
in,
they
would
acquire
the
property,
they
would
hold
the
property
in
their
name
right
and
there's
a
whole
there's
a
whole
set
of
the
general
Municipal
law
talks
about
how
Ida's
function
and
how
that
works.
We're
not
proceeding
in
the
in
this
way.
This
is
the
public
housing
Finance
law,
which
actually
puts
the
sole
Authority
for
to
Grant
the
exemption
into
the
hands
of
the
city
council
and
also
in
turn,
because
you're
granting
the
exemption.
C
You
were
the
entity
that
negotiates
or
signs
off
on
the
pilot
in
terms
of
administration,
of
the
pilot
very
little
difference,
because,
even
if
it
were,
if
it
were
an
Ida
proposal
or
an
Ida
project,
rather
that
money
would
still
come
to
the
city.
The
city
typically
acts
as
the
collecting
and
distribution
arm
of
those,
so
Susan
Tucker
is
going
to
be
doing
the
same
work,
whether
it's
an
Ida
project
or
a
phfl
project.
E
And
and
then,
if
I
could
just
piggyback,
it
also
does
give
the
city
more
control
in
terms
of
guaranteeing
the
affordability,
the
duration
of
the
affordability
and
the
breakdown,
the
constituent
parts
of
the
affordability.
So
right
now,
38
of
these
apartments
can't
be
rented
for
more
than
50
percent.
Of
the
Ami
Ami
is
the
average
area
media
income
and
then
the
remaining
155
Apartments
can't
be
rented
at
more
than
60
percent
of
Ami.
E
C
A
C
That
will
not
happen
here.
Both
the
resolution
I
prepared
indicate
that
that's
a
condition
of
the
exemption
and
the
pilot
agreement
has
a
schedule
that
makes
explicit
reference
to
the
the
unit
breakdown
that
Chris
mentioned
to
and
adherence
to
those
standards.
A
C
Are
we
starting
there
you're
starting
there,
because
that
is
the
the
developer
related
basically
did
a
kind
of
a
pro
forma
projection
of
what
a
shelter
rent
payment
would
look
like
after
the
project
is
acquired
and
the
Capital
Improvements
are
made,
and
that's
that's
the
number.
So
the
thought
was,
let's
start
with,
you
know
a
a
projection
of
what
shelter
rent
the
10
you're
getting
now.
What
that
would
look
like
at
upon
project
completion
and
use
that
as
a
starting
point
that
310
is
30
or
40
000
above
where
you
were
in
22..
A
The
the
previous
company
that
ran
this
facility
for
the
last
50
years,
or
so
assume
that
was
a
non-profit
or
was
it.
C
You
know
that,
well
it's
a
it's.
You
know
it's,
this
sort
of:
it's
not
it's,
not
completely
non-profit,
but
it's
it's
certainly
Limited
in
terms
of
the
income
and
and
and
and
the
profit
it
can
make
it's
a
you
know
there
are
restrictions
on
what
you
can
earn.
There
are
restrictions
under
article
two
of
the
phfl
under
what
the
owner
can
earn
by
operating
this
type
of
property.
A
C
C
These
are
not
transactions
that
produce
windfalls,
I
mean
the
the
the
the
the
margins
are
are,
you
know
are
very,
very
tight
and
keep
in
mind
that
once
acquired
it's
not
you
know
this
particular
property
and
the
HDFC
that
related
will
form
the
ownership
they
continue
to
be
under
the
watchful
eye
of
the
New
York
state
division
of
housing.
C
You
know
comes
in
they're,
subject
to
audit
they're
subject
to
certain.
You
know:
Financial
requirements
going
forward
the
maintenance
of
of
capital
reserves
so
that,
if
you
know
there
are
future
improvements
that
need
to
be
made,
those
can
be
drawn
on
you
know.
So
it
is
you
know
it's
not
as
if
you
know
they're,
just
I
can
buy
an
apartment,
building
run
in
any
way.
I
want
and
yeah.
B
D
D
D
F
F
That
is
a
payment
that
made
in
2023
I
think
it's
typically
made
around
October
based
on
the
history
I
saw,
and
so
that
that's
just
the
annual
Cadence
of
it,
so
it
gets
finalized
later
in
the
spring
or
mid-year.
But
that's
the
information
I
have
right
now.
D
F
Unit
at
the
time
sure
and
the
utilities,
as
well,
if
they're,
higher
or
lower
that
impacts
the
calculation
as
well.
C
G
Okay,
and
so
the
the
city
will
keep
a
watchful
eye
and
make
sure
that
everybody's,
in
keeping
with
the
contract
for
the
next
40
years,
are
there
any
outside
of
this
contract?
Are
there
any
reasons
processes
programs
excuses
why
someone
could
get
out
of
the
deal
or
why
why
the
HDFC
can
stop
providing
affordable
housing?
Aside
from
us
having
this
agreement
well
under.
C
So
if
there
is
a
default,
if
they
should
walk
away
from
from
those
requirements,
the
first,
the
first
hurdle
they
would
have
to
overcome
would
be
New
York
State,
because
New
York
state
is
kind
of
on
the
front
line
with
regard
to
this
type
of
housing,
just
in
terms
of
making
sure
that
the
income
restrictions
and
and
the
condition
and
the
rest
are
being
are
being
followed.
C
But
the
pilot
agreement
itself
has
a
default
provision
so
that
if
there
is
a
you
know,
if
there's
a
retreat
or
if
they're,
not
abiding
by
the
affordability
standards,
we
can.
We
serve
a
default
notice
to
the
the
to
related
to
the
HDFC
to
the
project
lender
and
you
know,
if
it's
not
cured,
then
we
pull
the
exemption
and
the
property
goes
back
on
the
tax
rolls.
It's
a
pretty
big
hammer.
E
E
May
may
I
ask
a
question
just
to
clarify
something.
My
understanding
is.
Let's
say
this
doesn't
happen.
Let's
say
related
decides
not
to
do
the
project
and
they
remain.
They
want
to
remain
where
they
are
today.
They
don't
want
to
renovate
the
apartments
they
can
continue
to
collect
as
long
as
they're
affordable.
E
C
And
I
look
I,
it's
the
city
council's
prerogative
in
terms
of
what
you're
going
to
do
but
I,
and
this
isn't
necessarily
a
legal
opinion,
but
I
think
you
I
think
there
needs
to
be
a
kind
of
a
different
analysis
when
you're
looking
at
a
Pilot
agreement
for
a
phfl
for
affordable
housing,
as
opposed
to
a
pilot
agreement
through
the
Ida
for
a
commercial
project,
because
again
the
the
the
affordable
housing
operator
is
one
crew.
C
C
It's
just
that.
You
know
it's
a
it's
a
different.
You
know
it's
a
different
type
of.
Certainly
there
are
benefits,
but
the
the
I
think
there's
more
of
a
focus
on
trying
to
maximize
the
pilot
Dollar
on
that
kind
of
deal,
as
opposed
to
Affordable,
where
you're
you're
making
trade-offs
for
what
you're
getting
as
a
community.
E
Yeah
we
would
get
more
money
because
we
could,
then
you
know
tax
them
at
at
the
assessed
value
right.
That's
the
trade-off
here.
H
This
was
these
microphones
always
squeak
when
you
move
them
around
I
had
a
technical
question.
We
talked
about
the
sort
of
enforcement
mechanism
around
ensuring
that
these
units
stay
affordable,
which
is
to
say
they're
conditional
on
the
tax
incentives,
but
I
wanted
to
talk
for
a
moment
about
maintenance.
I
H
Believe
from
speaking
to
Residents
or
experience
with
the
former
owner
not
related
was
that
the
units
themselves
ended
up
deteriorating
over
time
and
the
need
for
ongoing
maintenance
was
ignored
and
I
know
that
our
agreement
has
some
language
around
maintenance.
But
I
wanted
to
understand
what
sort
of
mechanism
or
role
the
city
has.
If
we
start
to
receive
complaints
in
20
30
years
that
these
Capital
Improvements
have
sort
of
deteriorated
over
time
and
that
more
maintenance
is
needed.
But
it's
not
being
responded
to
what
what
we
might
be
able
to
do
about
it.
C
Okay,
let
me
step
first
of
all
in
terms
of
trying
to
place
into
the
pilot
some
kind
of
of
a
like
set
interval
that
you
know:
you'll
do
X,
Y
and
Z
in
10
years,
or
you
know
in
year,
20
.
I
I've
never
seen
that
in
in
a
in
a
pilot
agreement
for
this
type
of
project.
Nor
would
I
expect
to
because
again
you
need
to
attract
investment
and
to
have
that
kind
of
a
commitment.
C
C
C
You
know
we
can
I
think
we
can
Tinker
with
that
language
to
make
it
clear,
as
is
going
to
be
the
case,
that
that
maintenance
will
be
in
accordance
with
all
governing
standards,
including
New,
York
State,
and
this
and
the
in
the
city
of
Beacon
in
terms
of
the
Beacon's
response,
I.
Think,
if
you
begin
to
get
those
complaints,
the
first
call
would
be
to
related
to,
let
them
know
what's
happened
and
to
give
them
the
opportunity
and
if
you
know
they
continue.
B
H
B
H
There
was
the
range
given
of
fluctuations
between
the
I'm
gonna.
Get
these
terms
wrong
until
I
find
what
I
was
looking
at.
H
The
range
in
Pilot
revenues
and
that
you
said,
had
spiked
historically
as
much
as
21
and
decreased
by
as
much
as
eight
percent.
If
I'm
reading
this
correctly,
this
is
putting
our
set
10
right
in
the
middle
of
those.
No.
C
No
certainly
yeah
so
that,
that's
just
to
say
what
what's
happened
over
the
past
like
10
years
with
regard
to
the
computation
of
that
10
percent
and
the
point
I'm
trying
to
make
is
that,
because
there
are
variables
in
terms
of
what
the
overall
pie
is
going
to
be
as
far
as
shelter
rent,
how
much
income
is
coming
in,
you
know:
are
there
vacancies?
Are
there
collection
issues?
C
You
know
what
are
the
Prevailing
rents
when
you
take
Ami
into
account
and
then
what
are
the?
What
are
the
cost
of
of
utilities?
I
mean
just
think
of
the
last
year
or
so
in
terms
of
you
know,
cost
of
of
heat
and
electricity
and
all
the
rest
so
that
that
overall
pie
can
can
can
expand,
it
could
contract
and
then
so
too,
does
the
10
percent
that
that's
that's
what
I
was
referring
to,
so
it
can
be.
You
know
it
could
be
very.
It
can
be
very
unpredictable.
B
E
Then
George,
if,
if
I,
could
we'd
like
to
move
items,
five
and
six
up
while
we
have
Judd
here
to
talk
about
this,
the
tax
settlements
so.
A
C
C
C
C
So
we
we
had
a
an
initial
proceeding
with
DMS
that
involved
whether
the
assessment
had
been
appropriate.
As
of
we'll
call
the
taxable
status,
it
is
the
taxable
status
date.
The
way
assessments
are
set.
You
you
take
the
condition
of
property.
As
of
a
snapshot
one
day,
you
know
what
what
was
the?
What
kind
of
condition
was
the
property
in
as
of
as
of
that
date,
and
what
would
that
its
value
be
on
that
date?
There
was
a
whole
back
and
forth
over
how
far
the
construction
had
Advanced.
C
At
that
time
we
settled
that
the
condominium
plan
went
into
effect
and
in
22
there
were
a
series
of
separate
assessments
for
individual
units
owned
by
DMs
and
in
23
there
were
another
set
of
separate
condominiums
that
were
owned
by
30
Beekman
LLC,
which
is
a
really
a
successor
to
DMs.
We
have
kind
of
the
same
situation
in
these
cases
because,
while
the
Kathy
really
endeavored
to
set
the
assessments
based
on
the
trend
in
sale
prices
for
the
completed
units,
the
problem
was
that,
as
of
the
taxable
status
date,
these
units
were
not
fully
complete.
C
So
the
argument
was:
hey.
Wait,
a
second
you're
assessing
you
know
this
particular
unit
as
if
it
was
fully
completed
and
ready
to
go
to
market
when
in
fact,
they're
still
was
additional
construction
and
cost
to
be
undertaken.
So
Kathy
inspected
the
properties,
we've
we've
kind
of
went
back
and
forth,
and
we
we
came
to
numbers
that
we
feel
are
appropriate.
Taking
that
into
account.
C
Certainly
the
you
know.
It's
we've
been
under
some
pressure
from
the
court
to
bring
these
cases
to
resolution.
You
know
I
think
in
some
both
the
values
that
have
been
fixed,
keeping
in
mind
that,
as
of
2020
2023,
when
we
go
to
this
year's
assessment
role,
these
will
all
be
fully
built
and
Kathy
will
likely
set
them
at
full
market
value.
C
A
C
E
So
you
have
a
resolution
both
for
taxes
in
2021
and
2022.,
two
two
separate
resolutions
that
we
would
bring
next
week.
A
E
A
Appointment
of
Samuel
dondrade
dundrade
to
the
position.
E
So
in
the
budget
for
2023,
one
of
the
two
or
three
positions
that
we
added
was
a
water
and
sewered
maintenance
mechanic
helper
in
the
water
department.
The
idea
was,
we
wanted
to
fill
this
position,
so
somebody
could
start
to
work
on
being
an
operator
down
there,
which
has
a
a
very
difficult
license:
Ed
blicky
who's,
the
water
and
sewer
superintendent
and
Sarah
Morris,
our
HR
Director
did
interviews.
We
had
three
candidates
for
this
new
position
and
we
actually
have
a
transfer
from
the
wastewater
treatment.
E
Department
Sam,
dendrotti
who's
been
working
at
the
plant
since
2015
and
it's
been
a
great
employee
and
he
wants
to
try
his
hand
at
Water
rather
than
sewer.
So
again,
we
think
he's
well
qualified
we've
checked
everything
with
civil
service
and
we
would
bring
his
appointment
to
you
next
week.
If
that's
good.
A
A
J
Everyone
good
evening
so
Mr
Mark
Walter,
didn't
have
a
resume
to
provide
for
your
reference,
but
I
did
ask
an
exchange
back
and
forth
with
him
a
little
bit
to
provide
some
background
on
himself
his
time
at
the
committee
and
his
professional
experiences
I
put
that
together
in
a
memo
format
for
you
and
the
public
to
take
a
look
at
here
as
you're
considering
his
reappointment.
He
was
the
former
chair
to
the
committee
as
a
very
lengthy
background
in
working
with
trees
on
trees
in
various
capacities,
and
he
stepped
down
from
the
chair
position.
J
I
want
to
say
middle
of
last
year,
but
the
desks
remain
on
the
board.
I
asked
him
if
he
wanted
to
be
reappointed
after
he
expired
at
the
end
of
last
year
and
he
did
and
so
far
I've
heard
nothing
but
good
things
about
Richard.
He
goes
by
Paul,
but
I've
heard
nothing
but
good
things
about
him
and
I.
Think
he's
worked
well
with
our
current
chair,
Pete
Bailey,
so
we're
just
bringing
him
to
you
to
consider
reappointment.
K
A
Okay,
now
on
to
number
four
proposed
local
law
number
one
to
require
the
electrification
of
residential
and
commercial
buildings.
Nick,
you
want
to
update
us
on.
L
I
do
thank
you,
Deputy
Mayor
Mansfield,
so
at
the
December
at
your
last
meeting
a
week
ago,
you
closed
the
public
hearing
on
the
introduction
of
a
proposed
local
law
law
number
one
of
2023.
You
had
previously
workshopped
it.
You
heard
from
the
public
you've
previously
heard
from
a
planning
board,
and
so
now
this
is
in
a
position
for
you
to
have
any
final
discussions.
You
wish
to
do
so
and
hopefully
Advance
it
to
a
consideration
for
a
vote
at
next
week's
meeting.
L
Just
a
little
background,
the
only
change
to
the
legislation
in
the
packet
was
to
add
back
in
the
exemptions
that
our
office
unfortunately
had
not
included.
It
was
a
typographical
error
in
that
subsection,
106
32
A3
on
the
exemptions
did
not
include
the
complete
language.
So
we've
added
that
in
so
that
now
mirrors
the
the
state.
L
You
may
recall
that
when
we
first
started
this
local
law,
we
wanted
to
make
sure
couple
things
one,
that
it
was
able
to
be
implementable
by
the
implemented
by
the
building
inspector,
and
it
was
easy
for
residents
and
the
developers
to
follow.
We
I
believe
that
has
been
accomplished
here.
You
may
recall
we
had
looked
at
the
Ithaca
model,
and
that
was
not
a
model.
It
was
a
lot,
certainly
well
intentioned
and
well
written.
L
It
went
a
lot
further
than
us
in
terms
of
how
to
point
system,
and
it
was
a
lot
of
a
lot
different,
so
we
started
crafting
our
model
and
we
then
looked
at
the
two
versions
that
are
up
in
this
in
the
state.
One
is
as
part
of
the
governor's
budget.
The
other
is
the
two
companion
bills
in
the
Senate
and
the
assembly,
and
over
time
for
discussions
with
the
city
council.
We
have
modified
the
city's
version
so
that
it's
very
similar
to
the
state.
L
It's
different
in
the
sense
that
you
only
have
one
phase
in
Period,
January
of
2024,
for
both
residential
and
Commercial,
and
it's
similar
in
that
the
exemptions
are
identical
to
what
is
the
state
has
in
its
code,
we've
also
in
the
intent
and
purpose,
and
the
findings
have
gone
into
some
detail,
and
that
was
for
the
purpose
of
the
council
wanted
this
to
be
a
model
that
other
communities
could
follow
similar
to
the
stretch.
Energy
code.
Beacon
was
the
first
after
New,
York
City
and
with
sort
of
an
all-electric
act.
L
Ica
has
something
it's
so
it's
similar.
It's
it's
not
fully
implemented
yet
New
York
City
has
one,
but
you
were
really
the
first
town,
Builder
City.
That
would
be
adopting
a
all-electric
act
in
our
discussions
with
nyserda.
They
indicate
that
they
have
two
communities
they're
working
with
to
create
a
model,
one
that
would
be
available
from
nyserda
to
advance
to
other
communities.
That's
not
going
to
be
considered
by
those
two
communities
until
the
early
as
the
end
of
this
year
and
potentially
January
2025.
So
Beacon
is
really
on
the
Forefront
of
this
issue.
L
L
L
I
A
L
106
34b
on
page
five,
it's
the
last
number
last
lettered
paragraph
that
that
was
put
in
after
a
discussion
by
the
council.
It's
sort
of
more
from
the
major
renovation
discussion
and
the
concept
there
is
that
if
someone
is
doing
major,
Renovations
and
they're
not
going
to
upgrade
to
all
electric
well
then
later
on,
if
within
that
five-year
period,
one
of
our
major
systems
needs
to
be
replaced.
Then
it
has
to
be
replaced
with
an
electric
appliance.
And
so
that
was
you
said.
L
A
L
Under
not
under
it's
only
if
they
replace
the
electric,
if
they
replace
the
heating
system,
if
they're
not
replacing
the
heating
system
and
we're
doing
75
renovation,
then
they
wouldn't
have
to
I,
see
and.
B
L
Says
well,
if
you're
not
going
to
take
the
time
now,
because
we
think
that's
the
best
time
right,
then
if
you
have
to
replace
the
heating
or
water
system
within
five
years,
you
have
to
make
sure
it's
an
electric
one.
So.
G
L
Also
have
the
ability
to
look
and
re-examine
this
law
right.
It's
a
law
and
I
think
you
would
want
to
right
have
a
report
from
the
building
inspector
nine
months
or
a
year
out,
and
you
can
then
see
what
is
the
in.
You
know
the
impact
of
major
renovation
New
York
State.
Actually,
when
we
spoke
with
nyserda
they're,
not
looking
at
Major
renovations
right,
it's
not
something
that
they,
they
are
focused
on
I.
G
Mean
I
I
thought
the
I
think
I
think
this
solution
was
proposed
by
the
mayor
and
I
thought.
It
was
a
good
one
in
hindsight,
the
five
years
piece
I
think
is
limiting
I.
What
I,
what
I
would
like
to
see
is
I'm.
Sorry,
what
I'd
like
to
see
is
you
know
you
can
do
a
renovation.
Maybe
you
can't?
Maybe
you
can't
afford
at
this
time.
But
when
you
do
come
around
to
having
to
replace
your
appliances,
you
will
have
to
replace
them
with
electric.
G
Now
what
this
is
kind
of,
like
you
know,
we
were
I,
was
talking
about
a
loophole.
I
think
what
we
did
was
we
just
deferred
the
loophole
five
years
so
that
you
know
people
can
replace
they
can
just
ride
out
the
five
years
and
and
replace
with
gas
in
the
sixth
year.
So
so
I
I
propose
and
I'd
like
to
hear
what
my
colleagues
think
about
removing
this
phrase
within
five
years.
It's
something
that
I
was
thinking
of,
and
then
we
heard
quite
a
bit
from
the
public
about
and
then
further
what
that
means.
G
With
regards
to
notification
during
property
sales,
which
was
raised
by
the
chair
of
the
CAC
during
public
hearing
I
mean
I,
easements
are
somehow
communicated
during
sales.
I,
don't
know
exactly
how
the
city
gets
involved
during
property
transactions
and
notification.
But
if
we
did,
this
I
think
we
would
have
to
have
some
kind
of
notice
to.
A
M
I
A
A
L
B
G
So
we
would
remove
that
that
that
piece,
sorry
I,
forget
the
exact
language,
but
we
said
any
construction
where
the
work
area
exceeds
75
percent
of
the
heated
floor
area
and
involves
the
replacement
or
new
installation
of
a
heating
or
hot
water
system.
So
we
would
take
out
that
that
phrase
you
would.
We
would
take
out
that
second
phrase,
so
we
would
just
say
any
major
renovation
over
75
percent
and
then,
if
that's
a
problem,
they
would
take
it
to
the
zoning
board.
M
Okay,
thanks
yeah
I
also
want
to
suggest
the
language
I
didn't
have
a
five-year
Limited
in
that
language.
Mine
was
when
you
do
replace
it,
it
will
go.
Electric
I
think.
The
issue
that
we've
got
to
consider
is:
if
you
have
to
go
to
the
zoning
board,
appeals,
you're,
spending,
money
and
I,
don't
know
if
you
want
a
homeowner
to
do
that.
I,
like
the
other
method,
which
was
okay.
If
you
know
you
have
a
brand
new
one,
don't
change
it,
but
when
you
do,
you
will
have
to
change.
M
That's
going
to
be
consistent
with
where
the
state's
going
to
go
with
respect
to
retrofit
and
to
do
the
retrofit
they're
going
to
have
to
have
a
lot
of
incentives
in
place,
and
we
want
our
homeowners
to
be
able
to
take
advantage
of
those
incentives.
If
you
do
it
now,
they
may
not
have
the
ability
to
take
advantage,
so
I
would
prefer
to
leave
the
language
in
place,
but
remove
the
five
years,
and
just
say
from
that.
You
know
this
time
forward.
G
Well,
what
do
we
think
about
this?
This
challenge,
with
the
notification
of
during
the
sale
of
a
building
I.
M
I,
don't
think,
there's
a
problem
because
it
doesn't
matter
whether
you
have
it
with
a
notice
of
a
sale
for
you
to
replace
a
boiler.
You
have
to
pull
a
permit
when
you
pull
the
permit
you're
going
to
be
told
you
you
have
to
do
this
I.
E
Think
that's
the
notification
property
card,
so
we
we
maintain
property
notes
on
every
parcel
number
you
know.
So
it's
so
if
somebody's
permitted
say
an
office
or
something
new,
you
know
it's
kind
of
akin
to
that.
You've
you're
passing
something
along
to
the
next
owner,
but
it
it
goes
with
the
land.
It
goes
with
the
property.
M
A
A
And
a
another
issue
that
came
up
during
the
public
hearing
last
week
was
about
an
exemption
for
manufactured
buildings
and
I
understand
that
we're
trying
to
keep
in
line
with
the
possible
State
legislation
on
this
and
but
I
guess
the
question
a
lot
of
people.
Well,
why
were
they
being
Exempted
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
sure
why
I
don't
know
if
we'd
get
an
answer.
L
Yeah
I
can't
speak
to
that
and
I
sort
of
mentioned
it.
They
seem
to
call
it
out
as
a
unique
situation.
I
don't
know
if
it's
because
manufactured
homes
are
a
more
affordable
form
of
home
construction
and
it
comes
from
areas
built
in
areas
outside
of
the
state.
So
perhaps
that
would
have
an
increased
cost.
I
I,
don't
know
if
I'm
purely
guesswork.
M
I
mean
the
only
thing
I
could
see
in
the
445
page
document
on
manufactured
housing
was
they
talked
about
the
economics
of
those
being
very
different
from
the
owners?
I
was
also
thinking.
There
may
be
some
difficulty
of
getting
electric
enough.
You
know
amperage
into
mobile
home
parks,
I'm
just
not
sure,
but
the
only
thing
I
could
tell
by
reading
it
was
we
don't
know
anything
and
the
state
has
a
set
of
exemptions.
M
B
I
Think
I
think
the
state
would
have
to
have
a
separate
set
of
exemptions
rather
than
us
as
a
city,
because
we
could
we
could
choose
what
we
do
and
do
not
want
in
the
city,
whereas
the
the
state
that's
a
much
wider
scope,
so
I
don't
think
it
would
necessarily
be
harmful
to
remove
manufactured
homes
as
an
exemption
for
Beacon.
Because
then
you
know,
manufacturer
homes
wouldn't
have
to
necessarily
be
electrified
in
other
places.
If
it's
an
exemption
and
Statewide
we're
just
saying
it's
not
an
exception
here,
agreed.
L
I
think
the
only
point
would
be
that,
to
the
extent
this
you
want
this
as
a
model
for
other
communities,
those
communities
who
do
have
manufactured
homes.
That
might
then
become
a
hardship
later
on,
potentially
or.
L
L
L
B
H
H
E
B
L
L
H
B
M
Our
input
from
nyserda
was
that
was
a
really
logical
approach
and
that
they
would
consider
something
like
that,
because
they're
the
ones
who
help
with
the
stretch
energy
code
I,
think
a
lot
of
communities
adopted
the
stretch
energy
code
because
they
weren't
going
in
and
looking
at
each
part
of
the
code
and
saying
do
I
do
this.
Do
I
do
that
they
just
said:
do
the
whole
thing
start
a
year
or
two
earlier
I?
Think
it's
a
great
concept.
If
we
really
want
to
be
a
leader,
we
need
to
make
it
easy.
A
Think
manufactured
homes
are
as
opposed
to
a
modular
home
which
I
think
yours
might
be
within
pizzas
and
put
together
on
site
sure.
H
A
Think
of
the
house,
the
the
type
of
housing
that
we're.
A
I
think
it's,
it
is
on
a
chassis.
It
does
come
almost
complete.
It
also
takes
five
I'm
correct,
it's
very
difficult
to
get
a
mortgage.
A
traditional
mortgage.
A
E
E
And
you
know
we
were,
we
were
talking
earlier
about
like
the,
if,
if
you
go
out
ahead
of
the
state,
you're
actually
influencing
the
state,
the
state
hasn't
adopted
this,
and
if
you
look
at
what's
going
on,
there
are
a
number
of
business
entities
that
are
fighting
back
against
the
governor's
proposal.
They
just
released
a
poll
that
Marist
did
about
you
know
most
people
want
gas,
you
know
and
they're.
E
Clearly,
fighting
back
and
one
of
the
things
we
discussed
is,
if
there's
any
time
to
say,
hey
the
state's
right,
but
we're
and
we're
going
to
go
earlier,
and
we
support
this
effort.
It's
right
before
this
budget,
because
it's
not
a
done
deal
and
and
again
it's
it's
important
that
we
get
it
right
here.
But
it's
also
important
that
we
get
the
state
to
drop,
adopt
these
broader
goals
and
not
drop
it
because
I
don't
know
that
that
battle
is
won.
Yeah.
M
G
I
I,
don't
want
to
split
hairs
here,
but
I
I
do
have
one
question
in
number
three
of
the
exemptions.
Our
way.
Sorry,
are
we
ready
to
move
on
to
another
topic,
sure
sorry
manufacturing
facility?
We
don't
have
a
definition
for
that
in
our
law.
Nick
and
I
was
wondering
if
you
could
share
what
the
widely
just,
maybe
what
what?
What
we're,
what
we're
really
talking
about
with
manufacturing
I,
don't
want
it
to
be
some
manufacturing
facilities
start
to
be.
G
You
know
the
kind
of
this
loose
definition
that
every
Commercial
Business
starts
to
fit
under
just
because
they
make
a
thing
so
I.
You
know,
I
know
where
the
mayor
has
been
thinking
about
industrial
properties,
I,
I,
guess,
I'm
curious.
What
what
is
a
manufacturing
facility
and
can
this
get
out
of
control.
L
I'll
check
with
Bruce
to
see
it
may
be
a
defined
term
within
the
New
York
State
Building
Code
itself.
If
not,
it
then
takes
its
regular
definition
subject
to
Ability.
Inspector's
interpretation
he's
the
one
he
or
she
is
the
one
who's
charged
with
interpreting
the
code,
and
so
the
manufacturing
facility
I'd
have
to
speak
with
Bruce,
but
my
interpretation
would
be
it
would
have
to
be
a
you
know:
the
industrial
but
like
industrial
type
of
of
operations,
where
you're
manufacturing
something
fabricating
it
from
raw
materials
and
then
creating
something
new,
a
new
product
out.
B
F
L
Okay,
so
if
the
council
likes
I'll,
make
those
changes,
we'll
also
prepare
a
substantive
resolution
requesting
to
be
referred
as
discussed
and
we'll
have
that
ready
for
Monday
night.
A
L
You
thought
the
last
topic
was
exciting
win
for
this
one
So
This
concerns
the
I,
think
the
final
closeout
of
the
development
of
the
polo
field,
residential
subdivision,
and
so
the
City
previously
accepted.
Maybe
18
months
ago.
Riding
Ridge
Trail
is
a
public
road
and
there
were
some
closeout
items
that
needed
to
be
completed
and
when
one
of
them
was
obtaining
a
title
report.
L
When
we
obtained
the
title
report,
it
confirmed
that
the
developer
still
had
good,
clear
title
to
the
property,
but
it
showed
that
the
survey
indicated
that
two
fire
hydrants,
which
are
to
be
owned,
operating
controlled
by
the
city,
were
located
partially
on
the
public
street
that
the
city
had
accepted
ownership
of.
However,
a
portion
of
the
fire
hydrant
was
also
located
on
private
property,
not
uncommon
right.
L
Hydrant
on
the
private
owner's
property
and
the
concern
is
that
when
they
go
to
Silver
property,
the
title
company
would
do
a
survey
and
then
nope
is
an
exception
because
there's
a
hydrant
on
the
property
and
some
overly
aggressive
attorney
or
representing
someone
might
then
say.
Well,
that's
the
city
doesn't
have
permission
to
have
a
fire
hydrant
on
your
property,
so
we
spoke
with
the
developers
attorney
and
they
agreed
to
get
easements
from
the
existing
Property
Owners
to
legally
permit
the
fire
hydrants
to
be
located
on
their
property.
L
And
so
that's
what
this
document
is
before
you
and
then
if
it
gets
voted
on,
and
so
it's
for
two
different
properties
that
needed
to
give
us
easements.
So
the
two
property
owners
have
signed
it.
We
are
in
possession
of
them
and
then
once
the
council
adopts
this
resolution,
we'll
work
with
the
developer
to
have
signed
by
Chris
and
then
get
reported.
G
B
L
L
A
E
So
this
is
a
proposed
amendment
to
the
general
fund
that
would
transfer
forty
thousand
six
hundred
fifteen
dollars
out
of
our
contingency
fund
and
put
it
towards
storm
drain
repair.
We
have
an
area
where
one
of
the
roadways
started
to
have
a
sinkhole,
and
when
we
investigated
it
turns
out
that
the
storm
water
pipes
below
it
are
starting
to
collapse.
E
This
this
money
would
be
used
to
basically
do
what's
called
slip
lining
where
we
put
in
this
very,
very
robust
form
inside
the
pipe,
and
it
keeps
you
from
having
to
dig
up
the
whole
thing,
and
it
still
gives
you
the
same,
essentially
the
same
width.
It
just
coats
the
the
pipe
with
a
much
stronger
material,
and
then
we
can
backfill
so
that
the
road
doesn't
continue
to
sink,
and
this
is
our
second
budget.
We,
we
did
one
budget
amendment
I
think
in
early
February.
So
this
is
our
second
one
and.
E
It
was
the
the
motion.
G
When
these
budgetman
amendments
are
proposed,
particularly
with
contingency
fund,
can
we
also
see
the
balance
of
the
contingency
Fund
in
here
when
Susan
makes
the
memo
just
so
we.
E
A
D
Yes,
but
I
feel
like
we're
actually
in
a
good
place,
so
just
to
catch
everyone
up
and
also
for
anyone's
looking
in
the
packet
there's
a
another,
very
small
print
table
that
I
put
together
that
Ben
kindly
fit
on
the
page,
but
basically
to
review
it
is
everyone
on
the
council
was
given
their
opportunity
to
pick
their
top
five
issues.
D
So
if
you
look
all
the
way
to
the
right
of
what
you're
saying
there,
the
second
and
third
last
columns
total
individual
means
that
the
number
of
people
who
voted
on
an
item
across
all
seven
of
us
and
then
total
weighted
means
I
gave
a
weight.
So
if
you
had
it
as
your
first
item
that
got
five
points.
Second
item
four
points,
and
so
on
so
forth.
D
So
if
there
are
any
I
first
want
to
see
if
there
are
any
questions
about
how
the
scoring
went
before
I
get
into
what
I
found
were
the
top
items
amongst
all
of
us.
D
Modeled
it
off
of
what
you
and
Paloma
did
last
year
for
the
the
community
investment
grants
when
we
voted
on
those
so
just
to
review
the
items
at
least
briefly
so
number
one
was
affordable
housing
options.
This
was
both
both
the
greatest
number
of
individuals
and
the
highest
points
scored.
This
is
obviously
a
big
umbrella
topic
that
I
am
not
suggesting
we
get
into
the
weeds
of
today.
You'll
actually
see
inclusionary.
D
Zoning
is
listed,
I
kind
of
even
included
that
Under,
the
Umbrella
I
didn't
list
that
as
one
of
our
top
five,
because
that
also
is
related
to
affordable
housing
options.
So
this
sounds
like
there's
a
lot
of
energy
and
interest
in
getting
into
the
details
at
some
upcoming
Workshop
meeting
about
what
do
we
mean?
What
are
options?
What
are
things
we
want
to
pursue
and
look
into
so
that's
sort
of
the
biggest
umbrella
item.
Next
down
was
the
community
center.
D
The
next
steps
with
the
recreation
study
that
we
talked
about
earlier
this
year,
are
we
able
and
want
to
do
a
feasibility
study?
What's
the
role
of
the
revamped
Recreation
committee,
so
there
are
lots
of
different
branches
that
come
off
of
whatever
the
next
steps
to
come
after
that.
Next
third
was
the
25
mile
an
hour,
city-wide
speed
limit
study.
We
talked
about
that
towards
the
end
of
last
calendar
year
and
sewed.
Some
next
steps
around
actually
putting
that
into
action,
doing
the
study
and
potentially
considering
a
law
depending
on
the
results
of
that
study.
D
Fourth,
is
wanting
to
hear
what
the
police
advisory
committee
has
to
say
so
I
know
that
this
city
and
that
Lee
had
been
working
on
this,
so
we
can
maybe
hear
about
when
that
could
be
brought
before
us,
but
just
making
sure
that
isn't
lost
and
then,
depending
on
what
that
the
advice
of
that
committee
is,
there
might
then
be
further
steps.
We
consider
and
then
last
in
terms
of
the
top
five
was
next
steps
with
the
Main
Street
access
committee,
making
sure
that
we
discuss
in
detail
what
was
presented
last
week.
D
What
do
we
want
to
do
with
that
information
and
other
things
from
there?
Thank
you
Nick.
That's
probably
what
was
happening
so
yeah
so
and
then
I
did
also
list
out
other
items.
D
So
in
terms
of
our
next
steps
today,
I
thought
one,
if
there's
anything
that
anyone
wanted
to
make
sure
that
they
wanted
to
make
a
case
for
or
bring
up
or
had
any
questions
about,
the
top
five
we
could
get
into
that
in
the
meeting
across
the
council
and
then
potentially
talk
about
what
we
want
to
try
to
schedule
in
the
next
upcoming
workshops.
Not
knowing.
D
G
D
Yeah
I
have,
if
we
yes,
I,
have
some
specific
questions,
because
some
of
these
things
have
timings
but
I'm
certainly
open
to
that
as
well.
And
yes,
housing
is
it's
a
big
one.
D
K
I
mean
generally
I
what
I
scored
the
budget
and
I
would
say
that
if
I
did
not
score
the
budget
and
as
my
priorities
there
I
absolutely
would
have
agreed
with
the
top
two
priorities.
After
that,
the
main
streets
access
and
the
the
police
advisory
committee
priorities
great
and
inclusionary
Zoning
I
think
as
part
of
the
affordable
housing
options.
I
don't
see,
I
didn't
score
that
one
because
I
don't
see
it
as
separate
yeah.
D
Lee,
as
specifically
about
the
police
advisory
committee,
do
you
and
I
believe
Ben
are
working
on
this?
Do
you
yet
have
a
date
as
to
when
you
think
you
might
be
able
to
bring
it
in
front
of
the
committee
or
a
front
of
the
council?
Sorry,
yes,
and.
J
Ben,
yes,
we
are
getting
very
close.
It's
a
matter
of
the
committee
choosing
a
date
that
works
well
for
a
number
of
them
to
attend,
but
we're
hoping
I
want
to
give
a
firm
date,
but
sometime
in
March
or
April
will
be
ideal
and
we'll
keep
you
posted.
Okay,.
D
As
as
Ben
alluded
to,
because
that
involves
having
the
members
of
the
committee
show
up,
I
think
that
sounds
like
it
will
slot
in
when,
when
it
can
in
the
next
couple
months,
should
we
is
it
possible
when
we
think
about
the
first
topic,
affordable
housing?
Do
we
feel
like
we
have
enough
specific
things
to
talk
about,
to
try
to
see
if
we
can
get
it
on
the
agenda
for
the
next
Workshop,
so.
G
The
mayor
has
created
a
list
of
options
for
housing
that
we
haven't
taken
out
in
a
while,
I
think,
probably
a
year
and
a
half.
So
maybe
we
could
start
by
reviewing
those
topics
and
maybe
seeing
what's
in
there
about
inclusionary
zoning.
B
E
M
Sorry,
what
I
would
suggest
we
do
is
just
you
know,
set
up
a
session
with
John
Clark,
and
we
can
work
our
way
through
it,
because
he
usually
gets
pretty
good
advice
on
how
he
can
go
back.
K
And
John
might
say
the
same
thing,
but
as
in
terms
of
framework
I
do
like
I
think
it
was
Paloma
who
suggested
an
affordable
housing,
road
map
and
I
think
that's
kind
of
a.
You
know
a
way
that
municipalities
approach
this
question
and
just
kind
of
gives
us
a
visual
sense,
rather
than
just
a
list
of
things
that
we're
going
by
one
by
one.
It's
more
of
a
holistic
like
how
do
we
get
there.
A
D
And
the
last
thing
that
I'll
say
is
that,
depending
on
assuming
we
do
work
through
these
five
and
depending
on
what
we're
able
to
get
through
that,
my
thought
is
that
we
might
want
to
revisit
where
we
are
sometime
over
the
summer
and
only
other
things
going
on
where
our
projects
are
and
just
see
like.
Oh,
is
there
anything
we
want
to
bring
up?
That
was
something
else.
People
wanted
to
vote
on,
but
I
think
for
now,
at
least
for
the
next
several
months,
three
to
four
months.
A
E
The
community
investment
program
Grant,
is
out
officially
today
again
for
people
that
might
just
be
tuning
in
the
council
created
this
back
in
2022.
It
allocated
twenty
thousand
dollars
for
not-for-profits
to
do
small
grants
for
activities
and
services
that
benefit
the
residents
and
quality
of
life
in
Beacon.
We
we
did
that
again
this
year
and
our
recreation
department
has
released
this.
It's
up
on
our.
E
If,
if
you
just
search
city
of
Beacon
bids,
you'll
see
it
as
one
of
the
two
outstanding
bids
that
we
have,
and
it
has
all
of
the
instructions
that
was
sent
around
to
all
the
members
of
the
council.
Please
feel
free
to
share
it.
I'll
announce
it
at
the
next
meeting
and
the
next
meeting.
Those
applications
are
due
in
one
month
so
on
April
7th,
and
we
had
a
lot
of
great
applications.
Last
year
and
we'd
really
encourage
people.
E
Bring
to
you
to
approve
and.
B
A
Well,
I
think
that
concludes
our
workshop.
For
this
evening,
we
have
a
motion
to
return
motion.