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The City of Beacon Workshop-Meeting from July 24, 2023
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All
right,
hey
everybody!
This
is
a
workshop.
So
I'll
just
start
it
up.
You
don't
need
you
don't
need
formal.
You
know,
Workshop
we're
just
the
council
is
getting
ready
for
a
formal
council
meeting
in
the
summer
that
council
meeting
will
be
held
after
this.
Workshop
is
over
so
that'll
happen.
Whenever
we
finish
up
the
workshop
I'm
just
doing
a
roll
call,
I
see
Dion
and.
C
D
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B
E
B
F
B
G
G
So
what
what
I'm
here
to
talk
about
is
to
do
an
overview
of
the
Dutchess
County
Housing
needs
assessment,
which
we
published
last
April,
and
then
we
can
sort
of
broaden
it
into
sort
of
a
wider
housing
discussion.
After
that
again,
my
name
is
Heather
Lavarnway
I'm,
a
senior
planner
with
the
department
and
I
was
Project
Lead
for
the
housing
needs,
assessment
and
Dylan
is
also
a
senior
planner
with
the
department
and
he
is
sort
of
the
point
planner
for
Beacon
and
things
that
come
into
our
office
speaking
related.
G
A
G
So
just
a
quick
background
on
the
housing
needs
assessment.
We
had
done
a
Tri-County
housing
needs
assessment
just
before
the
housing
bubble
burst
in
we're
sort
of
collecting
data
in
0.607,
I
think
it
was
published
in
08
and
we
decided
it
was
time
to
do
another
one.
We
did
just
Duchess
County
and
we
asked
that
because
we
hired
a
consultant
to
help
us
and
we
asked
them
to
to
focus
on
three
main
project
goals.
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The
first
was
to
take
a
look
at
our
demographic,
economic
and
housing
Trends
over
the
past
10
to
20
years
to
help
us
get
a
sense
of
what's
been
shaping
our
current
housing
market.
Then
we
wanted
them
to
project
out
to
2040
to
see
what
we
might
be
looking
at
in
the
future
and
then
obviously
look
at
a
strategy
for
action.
G
G
And
just
a
note
on
the
data,
the
report
did
use
the
latest
available
data
from
federal
state
and
local
sources.
Much
of
it
was
census
data,
but
there's
always
a
fun
sort
of
healthy
lag
between
the
year
you're
in
and
the
most
recent
census
data
available.
So
even
though
we
published
it
in
2022,
most
of
the
data
in
there
was
2015
to
2019
ACS
data.
There
was
some
2020
decennial
Census
Data,
sprinkled
in
and
even
though
you
might
think
we
forgot
that
covet
happened.
G
We
didn't
the
report
does
acknowledge
covid
in
in
numerous
ways,
but
the
real,
the
big
takeaway,
that
we
got
that
our
consultant
sort
of
helped
us
understand
was
that
a
lot
of
the
trends
that
they
were
seeing
were
were
there
in
the
Years
preceding
covid.
Covid
may
have
exacerbated
some
of
them
and
we
can
go
back.
You
know
as
time
progresses
and
we
can
sort
of
have
the
the
benefit
of
hindsight.
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G
Okay,
it
doesn't
do
my
my
one
thing
at
a
time:
slower,
population
growth,
the
the
chart
on
the
left
you're,
seeing
that
sort
of
that
sort
of
mountain
climbing.
That's
our
population,
growth
in
Dutchess,
County
from
1950
to
2020,
and
we've
always
grown
right
until
2010
to
2020,
where
it
really
leveled
off
and
you
can
sort
of
nitpick
the
particulars
of
what
that
actual
number
might
be,
but
basically
just
consider
it
a
plateau.
G
G
Whatever,
whatever
so,
it's
kind
of
blocking
some
of
the
data,
but
the
other
thing
that's
there
is
a
number
of
households
and
household
size,
and
so
you
can
see
that
back
in
2000
we
had
just
under
a
hundred
thousand
households
and
oh
cool
thanks,
whereas
in
2020
we
had
almost
112
000
households.
So,
even
though
that
population
line
sort
of
leveled
off,
we
still
added
12
000
households,
why
did
we
add
12
000
households?
Well,
one
of
the
components
of
that
is
a
steady
decrease
in
household
size,
and
this
is
not
a
new
trend.
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I
think
this
probably
goes
back
to
before
1950,
but
the
numbers
here
we
see
2.63
people
per
household
in
2000
and
that
dropped
to
2.42
in
2020
and
I
know
that
doesn't
seem
significant.
You
know
decimals
fractions
of
a
of
a
whole,
but
it
really
does
make
a
difference,
because
now
you
need
more
housing,
more
units
to
house
the
same
number
of
people
and
you
can
see
I
I
threw
in
an
extra
little
data
point
here
at
the
bottom.
G
So
we
have
an
aging
population
I,
don't
think
this
is
probably
a
surprise
to
anyone,
but
I'll.
Just
and
I
apologize,
it's
hard
to
see
the
details,
but
the
the
chart
on
the
left
with
the
pink
and
the
green
is
showing
population
change
by
age
cohort
between
2000
and
2019.,
so
the
pink
bars,
which
is
basically
from
ages
0
through
44,
except
for
a
little
blip
in
the
20s,
is
showing
us
that
those
population
age
groups
have
declined
in
that
19-year
period
20-year
period
and
from
age
45
and
up
we
see
the
greens.
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G
So
kind
of
hand
in
hand
with
that
cost
burdens
have
risen,
especially
for
renters.
We
have.
The
report
has
a
table,
a
chart
like
this
for
ownership,
but
I
just
pulled
the
rental
one
out
and
basically
what
this
is
showing
so
I,
so
cost
burn.
A
household
is
considered
cost
burden
if
they're
spending
more
than
30
percent
of
their
gross
income
on
housing
costs,
and
so
what
this
is
showing
again
I
get
that
it's
hard
to
see.
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G
G
So
widening
income
gaps
to
influence
the
market.
The
data
shows
that
these
widening
income
gaps
with
incomes
in
the
top
40
percent
of
households
are
far
outpacing.
The
bottom
60
percent,
because
income
gains
are
are
tending
to
flow
to
the
top
and
again
there's
a
lot
here.
The
piece
of
this
I,
like
the
most,
is
basically
showing
you:
the
income
quintiles
in
the
county
in
2010
versus
2019.
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How
much
more
money
did
a
household
in
the
20th
percentile
income
bracket
earn
in
that
nine
year
Gap
and
then
it
marches
across
and
there's
a
number
that
you
probably
can't
see,
but
it's
percentage
change
and
in
that
lowest
income
bracket,
the
20th
percentile.
Those
folks
were
making
less
than
six
percent
more
over
that
time
frame.
And
then
the
yellow
highlight
is
the
50
median.
Those
households
had
a
gain
of
about
16
percent.
G
G
And
so
why
does
that
matter?
Because,
as
households
at
the
high
end,
look
around
and
say,
I
want
to
participate
in
our
local
housing
market
and
they
maybe
don't
see
something
quite
at
their
level,
they're
going
to
reach
it
down
into
the
middle
and
they're
going
to
participate
in
the
middle
of
the
market
and
and
that's
going
to
affect
the
folks
in
the
middle
and
the
folks
lower
down
and
it
sort
of
spreads
out.
You
know
those
those
could
be.
G
There
we
go.
This
is
just
a
sort
of
a
zoom
in
on.
We
had
a
couple
of
spots
where
we
had
some
Beacon
specific
information
in
the
report,
and
this
is
one
of
them.
This
is
the
gap,
analysis
for
Beacon
rentals,
and
you
can
basically
see
the
bars
at
the
low
at
the
low
end
and
the
high
end
are
dipping
below
zero.
That's
a
deficit
of
units
and
then
the
bars
in
the
middle
are
actually
kind
of.
G
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G
So
then
I
think
next.
Next
there
we
go
so
one
of
the
takeaways
from
the
report
was
that
the
greatest
level
of
need
are
renter
households
earning
less
than
50
000..
Obviously,
the
the
lower
you
go
in
the
incomes,
the
greater
the
need
that
sort
of
is
not
an
unexpected
correlation,
and
so
the
report
suggested
focusing
efforts
on
addressing
the
needs
of
that
segment
of
the
market.
G
I
will
say
that
I
do
want
to
come
back
to
this
50
000
number,
because
I
know
I've
been
hearing
it
a
lot
in
some
of
your
discussions
and
I
just
want
to
explain
it
and
expand
on
it.
I'm
going
to
do
that
in
a
little
bit
we'll
get
through
this
housing
needs
assessment
and
then
we'll
we'll
expand
on
that.
Next.
G
So
what
will
it
take
to
address
that
current
and
future
need?
This
is
where
we
get
this
number:
a
total
catch-up
number
County
Wide
of
2155
housing
interventions,
which
can
be
a
variety
of
things,
although
most
of
us
think
of
it,
as
as
you
know,
construction
new
units,
and
because
that
is
it's
kind
of
an
overwhelming
number
to
think
about
right
now
we
broke
it
down
into
an
annual
catch-up
of
108
units
per
year
for
20
years.
That's
kind
of
a
minimum
goal
right
next.
G
So
one
of
the
things
we
thought
was
important
was
to
sort
of
have
a
suggested,
fair
share
distribution
of
how
these
interventions
could
be
allocated
across
Dutchess,
County
understanding
that
none
of
this
is
mandated
or
required
right.
We
don't
have
New.
York
is
a
home
real
estate.
The
county
can't
mandate
any
of
this,
but
we
looked
at
the
oh
gosh,
I'm,
gonna,
I'm
gonna
be
I,
have
to
remember.
It
was
the
distribute
it's
population,
distribution,
distribution
of
those
renter
households
earning
less
than
50
000
and
distribution
of
jobs.
G
You
and
those
were
the
three
factors
that
they
put
together
to
come
up
with
these
distributions
and
one
of
the
things
you're
seeing
is
we
we
set
aside
the
City
of
Poughkeepsie
and
the
City
of
Beacon
individually
and
then
the
rest
of
the
municipalities.
We
gave
individual
numbers,
but
then
we
also
sort
of
lumped
them
into
sort
of
sub-regions
of
the
county.
G
Just
to
kind
of
show
that
we
understand
that
you
know
things
in
the
southwest
portion
of
Dutchess
County
are
very
different
than
what's
happening
in
the
Northeast
portion
of
the
county
and
so
Beacon's
number
sort
of
comes
out
to
be.
You
know
five
per
year
or
or
a
total
of
105,
and
we
really
encourage
communities
to
view
that
as
kind
of
a
minimum
and
absolutely
feel
free
to
exceed
that,
if
you
you
know,
are
able
willing
and
it's
the
ability
to.
G
To
move
forward
and
make
progress
with
these
interventions
is
different
in
each
Community.
Some
communities
have
Central
infrastructure
and
some
don't,
and
so
that
can
affect
the
ease
with
which
this
this
can
happen
and
next
and
then
sort
of
the
last.
My
last
slide
regarding
the
housing
needs
assessment
is
that
sort
of
the
Capstone
recommendation
from
the
report
was
that
the
county
considered
creating
a
County,
Housing
Trust
Fund
to
help
pay
for
some
of
these
additional
interventions
and
leverage
other
public
and
private
resources,
and
the
report
recommended
a
two
million
dollar
per
year
allocation.
F
G
G
The
funding
round
that
we
rolled
out
in
the
fall
focuses
on
probably
the
the
biggest
program,
which
is
housing,
creation
and
preservation
right.
That's
that's:
building
or
preserving,
affordable
rental
units
and
the
other
two
programs
there's
an
infrastructure
and
planning
one
and
then
there's
a
first-time
home
ownership
one.
We
have
not
I'll,
be
honest
to
flesh
those
out
we're
really
focusing
on
housing
creation
and
preservation.
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F
G
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G
Prioritize
everything,
so,
basically,
we
took
into
account
a
whole
lot
of
different
things.
Certainly
location,
but
of
course,
is
the
first
round
so
nobody's
gotten
anything
from
it
right
and
you
can
only
react
to
the
applications
you
get.
So
it's
not
like.
We've
got
applications
in
all
30
municipalities.
We
got
eight
or
nine
I
can't
remember
so
absolutely
location
would
be
a
measure
that
gets
looked
at.
How
deep
affordability
level
is,
you
know,
is
it
at
60
or
is
it
offering
some
units
at
30
and
50?
J
G
Pretty
standard
for
housing,
subsidy
programs
most
actually
cap
at
six-
it's
not
as
many
that
will
go
above
that
you
know
the
I
think
the
private
Market's
going
to
handle
the
higher
end
right,
assuming
they
don't
have
a
lot
of
roadblocks.
So
every
Community
is
different.
Every
zoning
code
is
different.
Every
board
every
review
process
is
different,
and
so
you
know
developers
will
sort
of
figure
out.
G
H
And
it
you
know
to
build
housing
at
the
income
level
at
the
Priceless
point
that
we're
talking
about
for
60
and
Below.
Just
it
requires
public
subsidy
period.
You
can't
build
that
cheaply
and
you
know
there
are.
There
are
programs
out
there
but
they're
competitive
and
they're
complicated,
and
if
we
have
the
opportunity
to
provide
a
source
for
that
subsidy,
that
is
a
little
less
complicated
a
little
more
local
than
that.
That's
got
a
great
benefit
to
it.
G
Right
and
the
notion
that,
if
a
project,
because
most
most
projects
that
are
looking
to
be
subsidized
to
provide
affordable
housing,
a
lot
of
them
are
going
to
be
going
for
more
than
one
funding
source.
It's
not
going
to
be
too
common
that
they
would
just
come
to
us.
That's
not
to
say
that
doesn't
happen,
because
one
of
our
projects
is
just
funded
by
us,
but
it's
it's
very
small.
G
A
lot
of
them
are
going
to
the
state
for
for
a
variety
of
different
funding
opportunities
and
the
state
likes
to
see
that
there's
local
support
and
one
way
to
show
that
is
that
they've
gotten
a
county
funding
award.
So
it's
helpful
from
that
leveraging
perspective
too
yeah
and
I
think
what
Dylan
was
saying
is
really
important
to
remember
you
know.
G
Construction
is
expensive.
Development
is
complicated
and
expensive
and
they're.
At
the
end
of
the
day,
when
you
go
through
the
process,
it's
it's
just
the
numbers
don't
pencil
out
to
to
build
something
without
subsidy
and
be
able
to
offer
rents
at
below
Market.
It
really
does
require
subsidy,
because
you
have
to
remember
that
developers
they
have
lenders
too
right.
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F
F
I
have
one
other
question.
Thank
you
for
all
of
this.
By
the
way.
Thank
you
going
back
to
the
Gap
analysis,
I'm
trying
to
just
kind
of
picture.
You
know
what
does
this
mean
in
reality,
I'm.
Looking
at,
for
example,
the
it
looks
like
it's
about
300,
300,
rental
units,
a
deficit
of
300
rental
units
for
people
making
75,
000
or
more
are.
F
When
we
say
that
there's
a
deficit
of
300
units
for
people
making
75
000
or
more
obviously,
we're
not
talking
about
having
there's,
not
300
people
making
that
kind
of
money
sleeping
on
the
streets.
So
what
are
what
do
we?
What
does
this
mean
in
reality?
What
does
it
mean
that
there's
a
deficit
of
housing.
G
So
it
means
that
those
folks
are
reaching
down
into
the
middle
and
they're
occupying
units
that
could
be
affordable
to
households
with
slightly
lower
incomes.
It
means
they
have,
they
aren't
spending
through,
they
probably
aren't
spending
30
percent
and
there's
no
rule
that
says
you
have
to
spend
30
of
your
gross
income
on
housing,
but
it's
just
it's
the
measure
with
which
we
can
sort
of
take
a
look
at
these
different
things.
E
H
G
C
I
G
Yes,
but
not
through
the
rental
housing
survey,
so
the
rental
housing
survey
like
we,
we
literally
surveyed
these
complexes
we
reach
out
to
them,
and
we
say:
hey,
it's
us
again.
Would
you
please
fill
out
our
form
and
then
we'll
compile
all
the
data
and
we'll
analyze
it,
and-
and
we've
been
doing
this
for
over
40
years
I'm.
Actually,
the
project
lead
on
that
it.
As
far
as
data
from
the
rental
housing
survey
into
the
housing
needs
assessment,
I
think
the
only
spot
where
we
sort
of
actually
cited.
G
D
A
G
Yay
there
we
go
so
so
just
a
couple
of
fresh
data
points
which
you've
already
pointed
out.
One
of
these,
so
the
2022
rental
housing
survey
hot
off
the
press.
Today,
one
of
the
pieces
of
information
in
this
report
that
I
think
a
lot
of
us
jump
right
to
it's
I
think
it's
usually
the
one
that
I
update
the
staff
on
right
away.
Okay,
the
new
vacancy
rate
is
2.1
percent
and
that's
county-wide
again
it's
it's!
It's
based
on
the
survey
results
that
we
receive
from
rental
complexes
with
20
units
or
more.
G
We
do
get
a
pretty
good
response
rate.
It's
like
68,
67
or
68
of
of
those
complexes
respond.
So
we
view
it
as
a
pretty
good
proxy
for
county-wide,
whether
they're
in
a
complex
or
not.
We
used
to
actually
try
to
collect
non-complex
data
and
it
was
complicated
and
not
all
that
robust,
so
we
actually
stopped.
G
G
G
G
And
then
the
last
piece
on
the
bottom,
we
have
updated
data
from
HUD
on
what
the
2023
Dutchess
County
area
median
income-
that's
Ami
is
now
119
600,
that
is
for
a
family
of
four
that's
what
that
measurement
is
tagged
to,
and
so
the
chart
below
what
I
tried
to
do
was
to
show
you
different
household
sizes
at
different
Ami
levels,
because
this
is
really
how
we
do
it.
When
we're
looking
at
the
nitty-gritty
for
affordable
housing
subsidies
and.
K
H
G
That
50
000
it's
really
sort
of
a
proxy.
In
my
view,
it's
sort
of
a
proxy
for
this.
The
60
Ami,
which
tends
to
be
the
cap
for
big,
a
subsidized,
affordable
housing
programs
and
the
reason
it
doesn't
work
is
is
in
inflation,
but
it's
also
household
size
right.
A
one-person
household
earning
50
000
is
in
a
very
different
position
than
a
four-person
household
earning
fifty
thousand
and
they
have
different
housing
needs.
G
So
this
table
sort
of
breaks
it
down
and
shows
you.
The
the
number
in
blue
is
the
100
Ami
for
that
household
size
and
then
I
put
30,
60
and
80,
because
those
tend
to
be
Ami
levels
that
you'll
see
in
subsidized
housing,
typically
not
above
60,
but
some
of
them
do
go
above
any
questions
on
that
before
I.
B
Think
for
me,
I
want
to
just
say
your
data
is
pretty
consistent
with
ours.
I
know:
John
Clark
looked
at
a
number
and
came
back
with
of
our
rental
units,
not
cutting
off
at
20
or
more
I.
Think
his
number
was
29
of
our
rental
stock
at
some
level
at
some
affordable
program
attached
to
it
and
I'm.
Looking
at
your
numbers
and
it's
like
yep,
you
know
it'll
be
a
little
north
of
your
numbers
somewhat,
but
and
he
had
because
he
was
willing
to
able
to
kind
of
dig
below
right.
A
G
You
guys
had
a
pretty
robust
discussion
about
housing
and
some
of
the
things
that
we
heard
a
lot
that
bubbled
up
to
us
are
listed
here,
a
sense
of
urgency
that
you
want
to
keep
the
momentum
going,
tackling
low-hanging
fruit
adus,
which
I
know
I,
think
you've
done
that
now
correct
senior
or
just
a
general,
affordable
housing
policy,
some
site-specific
ideas
for
certain
Parcels
around
the
city-
probably
some
of
them
city-owned
questions
about.
Where
should
affordable
housing
be
permitted?
Some
discussion
about?
Do
you?
G
G
G
So
one
of
the
things
Dylan
and
I
decided
to
do
was
we.
We
were
chatting
a
lot
about
sort
of
all
the
potential
barriers
right
to
creating
housing,
whether
it's
affordable
or
not,
in
New
York
state-
and
this
is
by
no
means
an
exhaustive
list,
but
these
were
the
things
that
we
kept
coming
back
to
as
the
things
that
we
see
being
an
issue
a
lot
and
so
lack
of
central
Water
and
Sewer.
In
many
places,
a
lot
of
communities
have
very
few
areas
that
are
zoned
to
allow
for
a
variety
of
housing
types.
G
Most
of
our
communities
are
heavy
on
the
single
family
only
districts
and
and
make
it
much
harder
to
find
places
to
slot
in
twos,
threes,
fours
or
or
more
Rising
construction
costs.
You
know,
that's
always
an
issue
and
it
feels
like
even
more
of
one
these
days
rising
and
now
High
interest
rates.
We
haven't
seen
those
in
a
long
time,
but
we're
back
to
that,
although
maybe
not
quite
as
high
as
they
used
to
be
lengthy
approval,
timelines
from
multiple
jurisdictions,
there's
Municipal,
there's,
Health,
Department
you've
got
dot
or
your
local
DPW.
G
You
might
have
historic
considerations
depending
on
what
the
project
is
and
where
it
is
DEC
and
environmental
and
I'm
sure
there's
others
archaeological.
You
know
the
list
kind
of
keeps
going
and
paired
with
that
uncertainties
and
subjective
components
that
come
along
with
some
local
review
and
public
input
process.
G
All
that
sort
of
comes
together
to
just
illustrate
that
time
does
equal
money
over
the
years,
I've
seen
a
lot
of
projects
that
get
part
way
through
the
review
process,
and
they
just
they
don't
continue,
because
the
the
expense
is
so
high
and
it
can
drag
on
for
a
long
time
so
that
time
equals
money.
Really
is
a
consideration
code
requirements
that
automatically
add
cost
to
units
things
like
minimum
square
footage,
minimum
parking
requirements
minimum
lot
size
all
of
those
things
equal
dollars,
base,
Baseline
dollars
required
to
to
to
cons.
G
G
There
are
some
things
that
you
as
a
municipality
can
assert
some
control
over
and
there
are
some
things
that
you
can
right:
there's
probably
nothing
you're
going
to
do
about
Rising
construction
costs
or
interest
rates,
but
I
highlighted
next
slide,
which
it's
not
easy
to
see
here,
but
those
are
highlighted
in
red.
Those
are
some
of
the
ones
that
you
could
tackle
in
some
form
or
fashion.
You
could
take
a
look
at
your
zoning
and
see
if
there
are
areas
to
expand
housing
types.
G
You
can
talk
to
your
local
boards
and
find
out
what
their
process
is
and
are
there
ways
to
sort
of
keep
keep
things
flowing.
You
can
look
at
code
requirements
and
and
have
an
honest
conversation
about
whether
any
of
those
are
adding
to
a
a
bottom
line
requirement.
That's
that's
resulting
in
higher
housing
costs
and
then
the
same
with
zoning
requirements
versus
incentives.
G
L
G
It's
really
more
about
how
how
subsidy
programs
work
and
nobody's
ever
going
to
have
a
have
a
dollar
amount.
You
know
what
I
mean,
because
it's
going
to
it
changes
every
year.
All
of
these
housing
programs
are
tagged
to
that
HUD,
that
annual
HUD
Ami
number,
which
tends
to
get
updated
in
June
or
July,
which
it
just
did,
and
so
it's
a
moving,
Target
and
so
to
just
talk
about
a
dollar
amount
is,
is
not
going
to
be
effective
over
time.
G
D
F
D
F
G
F
G
I
G
I
mean
you
know:
one
idea
would
be
that
that
sort
of
dichotomy
between
zoning
requirements
versus
incentives,
if
you,
if
you
make
it
a
little
easier
for
them
to
get
through
the
process
but
require
them
to
have
I
mean
you
have
a
requirement
now,
but
I.
Don't
think
that
there's
I
don't
think
like
there's
no
extra
units
or
there's
no
for.
G
So
you're
sort
of
saying
you
know
you'd
be
saying
this
is
important
to
Beacon
we're
we
we
want
to
be
able
to
offer
more
affordable
units.
We
recognize
that
it's
also
costly
to
build
them,
and
so
we're
going
to
work
find
a
way
to
sort
of
incentivize
that
to
make
it
easier
to
build
units
which
would
include
those
affordable
units.
B
G
B
D
G
There's
a
lot
a
lot
of
the
the
state
programs.
They
have
different
compliance
periods,
but
some
are
20.
Ours
is
30
and
then,
with
the
the
hope
is
always
that
then,
when,
when
a,
if
you
have
a
development
that
was
that
was
originally
subsidized
and
has
income
restricted
units
and
is
overseen
by
you
know
an
entity
that
can
sort
of
handle
that
on
an
annual
basis,
that
as
they
get
towards
the
end
of
their
compliance
period,
that
they
might
go
back
to
the
state
and
say
hey
we're
we're
almost
30
years
old.
G
G
G
We've
we've
looked
a
couple
of
times
at
different
developments
in
other
parts
of
the
county
and
and
we
do
see
a
pretty
good
contingent
of
local
folks
who
have
left
their
unit
nearby
and
moved
into
the
new
one,
and
then
that
opens
that
unit
up
to
somebody
who
might
not
be
able
to
afford
the
new
one,
but
they
can
afford
something
in
the
middle.
You
know
what
I
mean,
so
it's
sort
of
a
there's,
a
you
know
you
think
of
it
as
a
ladder
and
they're
sort
of
something
available
at
all.
E
G
Yeah
I
mean
you
know,
there's
no
one
solution,
it's
really
it's
what
do
when
we
were
looking
at
all
of
this
data
with
for
the
housing
needs
assessment
with
the
consultants,
and
we
were
sort
of
looking
for
this
Smoking
Gun.
You
know,
and
there
really
wasn't
one
as
far
as
how
did
we
get?
How
did
we
get
in
this
situation
County
in
in
this
County?
And
it's
not
just
not
just
County
right,
it's
New,
York
State,
it's
the
entire
country.
People
are
struggling
with
housing
everywhere.
How
did
this
happen?
G
H
So
you're
you're
trying
to
provide
more
Capital,
affordable
units,
you're
also
trying
to
provide
more
choice
for
folks
and
you're
trying
to
make
you
know
better
use
of
existing
properties
that
you
might
have
with
things
like
adus
and
such
it's
a
variety
of
different
measures,
I'll
say
so.
In
addition
to
you
know
when
you,
when
new
market
rate
housing
gets
built,
it
is
it's
like
it's
really
expensive
right,
like
you
see
it
it's
very
expensive
and
it
as
Heather
was
saying
the
it
should
open
up
other
units
of
people
moving
into
that
will
be.
B
H
New
units
you're
building
your
children's
affordable
units,
because
over
time
those
are
not
going
to
be
the
shiny
new
units
anymore
and
they
will
get
down
to
like
a
more
sort
of
normal
price
point.
And
so
when
you,
when
you
know
when
you
expand
your
housing
choice
in
your
community
you're
building
for
the
future
Generations
as
well,
that's
the
idea
there.
B
B
G
G
So
nine
are
subsidized
by
us
and
offered
at
a
lower
price
point
and
then
the
other
nine
I
think
I
can't
remember
well
and-
and
we
won't
subsidize
the
ones
that
you
require,
but
with
your
with
your
local
because
we've
the
thinking
is
that
the
municipality
is
going
to
require
that
that's
going
to
happen
anyway.
The.
A
G
And
that's
through
a
program,
through
this
day,
eshai,
where
there's
extra
supports
rolled
in
to
those
units
yeah
that
one
was
a
little
more.
It
was
a
little
more
complicated
and
had
more
layers
and
I.
Think
there's
a
commercial
component
to
the
project
as
well,
which
obviously
is
outside
of
our
purview
right.
F
E
H
F
Have
these
discussions,
it
always
seems
to
come
down
to
if
I
wanted
to
build
something
with
a
lot
of
affordable
housing
in
it.
It's
really
hard
for
me
to
get
a
loan
right
lenders,
don't
want
to
lenders,
don't
want
to
be
a
part
of
that,
so
it
seems
like
there's
something
that
is
there's
a
disconnect
between
what
lenders
are
willing
to
what
kind
of
projects
lenders
are
willing
to
support
and
what
kind
of
projects
are
actually
needed
right.
G
D
G
It's
the
exact
same
scenario
at
a
bigger
scale
and
more
complicated.
There
are
certainly
lenders
that
are
dedicated
to
affordable
housing.
Community
preservation,
Corporation
I,
think
you've
heard
from
Doug
in
the
past.
That's
that's
what
they
focus
on
and
there
are
other
lenders
that
do
that
as
well,
but
they
still
need
to
get
their
payments.
So
they're
still
there's
still
sort
of
a
bottom
line.
Math
that
has
to
pencil
out.
D
G
Yeah
so
I
just
I
threw
together
some
suggested
resources.
There's
a
few
websites
at
the
top,
the
first
one,
the
cost
of
affordable
housing.
Does
it
pencil
out
I
highly
recommend
taking
a
look
at
it?
It's
actually
kind
of
fun
because
it's
really
interactive,
but
it's
really
easy
to
understand
and
you
can
as
you're
going
through
it.
You
can
sort
of
change
different
parameters
and
then
it
shows
you
how
it
affects
sort
of
that
bottom
line
and
it
kind
of
takes
you
hold
through
the
whole
development
process.
G
It
was
entitled
Housing,
Development
and
financing
101,
and
so
he
sort
of
explained
sort
of
the
affordable
housing
financing
process
and
he
actually
took
us
through
an
example
and
it
was
really
instructive,
and
so
that
is
a
recording
of
that
is
available
on
our
website
and
you
might
find
that
sort
of
eye-opening
and
then
just
a
few
other
things.
There's
a
few
books
there
that
I
highly
recommend
another
webinar.
We
did
with
Shane
Phillips,
who
actually
wrote
the
affordable
city.
G
B
Right
when
you
say
doesn't
pencil
out
right,
I
mean
I
think
like
well:
what's
the
cost
of
constructing
a
unit?
Now
it's
incredibly
expensive
because
I
heard
it
from
someone
as
to
what
it
costs
around
here
is
300
000
to
build
a
unit,
wouldn't
wouldn't
be
crazy
anymore.
At
six
percent,
I
can
do
the
math.
That's
fifteen
hundred
dollars
a
month
just
for
the
interest
right
so
I
know.
G
E
G
And
just
like,
we
all
have
annual
monthly
and
annual
expenses.
You
know
we,
maybe
we
pay
water
bill
or
a
sewer
bill
or
we've
got
the
power
bill.
We've
got.
We
have
all
these
bills,
they
have
the
same
things
and,
depending
on
you
know
what
the
particulars
are
of
each
of
each
project.
You
know,
maybe
they
they
have
to
hire
somebody
to
plow
in
the
winter
and
Landscape
in
the
summer
and
Moen.
All
those
things
are
expensive,
so
they
have
to
when
they
do
the
financials
with
the
bank.
They
put
together.
F
How
does
the
calculus
change
if
this,
if
the
government
is
building
housing,
meaning
if
the
city
of
Beacon
decided
we
were
going
to
start
building
housing,
affordable
housing
for
folks?
So
are
we
eligible
for
different
types
of
loans?
We
could
go
out
to
bond
to
build
I'm
guessing
you
know
it
just
seems
like
there
might
be,
and
obviously
we're
not
trying
to
make
a
profit.
H
H
So
you
you
just
wouldn't
find
the
you
know
the
the
model
that
the
funding
is
available
for
outside
of
the
local
is,
for
you
know,
privately
managed
subsidized,
affordable
housing.
There
are
good
reasons,
and
perhaps
not
so
good
reasons
that
that
funding
doesn't
exist,
the
way
it
used
to
anymore.
The
model
has
changed,
but
you'd
be
hard-pressed
to
get
into
financing
to
get
public
built.
A
And
and
we're
also
subject
to
laws
that
the
private
sector
and
the
non-profit
sector
are
not
subject
to
so
we
have
to
abide
by
Wix
laws
where
you
have
to
do
multiple
bids.
Instead
of
just
having
a
contractor,
we
also
have
to
pay
prevailing
wage
rates
which
are
the
highest
and
so
again,
if,
if
a
non-profit
developer
like
the
beacon,
Housing
Authority
develops
a
house,
they
can
do
it
much
more
cheaply
than
the
city.
A
A
G
And
you
know
so
to
to
your
question
of
you
know
if
Beacon
was
to
Beacon
the
city
right
now
is
to
do
something:
how
how
does
that
change?
The
calculus
I
have
to
be
honest,
I
actually
don't
know
because
I'm
not
familiar
with
whether
or
not
there
are
sources.
I
think
you
would
partner
with
a
developer
who's,
Savvy,
doing
affordable
housing
and
they
would
sort
of
you
know.
Maybe
they
would
go
through
the
process
for
litec
and
other
other
funding
sources
through
the
state.
G
You
know,
Dylan
was
sort
of
talking
about
like
the
beacon,
Housing,
Authority
type,
public
housing
of
the
50s
60s
and
70s.
That
was
different,
that
not
only
subsidized
construction
but
also
subsidized
there's
an
annual
ongoing
maintenance,
subsidy
and
folks
that
live
there,
their
rents
fluctuate
year
by
year
and
are
pegged
to
30
percent
of
their
income.
So
if
they
lost
a
job
or
whatever
got
a
pay
cut
or
lost
hours
the
following
year,
all
that
documentation
gets
looked
at
and
their
rent
would
be
adjusted
accordingly.
G
L
Hoping
to
actually
go
back
to
essentially
slide
10.
I
think
this
discussion
is
really
interesting
and
informative
about
how
much
it
costs
to
build
stupid
units
in
some
of
the
market
forces
that
we're
dealing
with
particularly
around
what
we're
saying
about
the
potential
trickle-down
effect
of
having
housing
and
looking
at
the
graph.
L
That
indicates
that
we
have
a
huge
deficit
for
75,
000
and
above,
but
also
a
surplus
for
50
to
75,
000,
sorry,
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
or
above
that
you
know
you
can
look
at
those
numbers
and
think
that
potentially
the
market
will
correct
itself.
I
think
that
we
implied
that
that
is
a
possibility
in
that
income
bracket,
but
I,
imagine
that
this
is
exactly.
Why
there's
that
Target,
that
what
I
will
say
now
is
fifty
thousand
dollars
below,
but
I
will
say
again.
L
It's
actually
60
Ami
as
the
area
with
the
greatest
need
and
I
also
hear
what
you're
saying
that
the
solutions
that
you're
offering
are
a
number
of
different
interventions
that
we
need
to
make.
There
are
a
lot
of
different
policies
to
address
this
overall
issue
and
also
I'm
most
interested
from
my
position
in
addressing
the
needs
of
the
people,
with
the
greatest
need
that
this
graph
also
seems
to
be
indicating
have
the
greatest
need,
and
so,
in
the
midst
of
this
conversation
about
all
of
the
different
Tools
in
our
toolbox.
L
Curious,
if
you
have
specific
recommendations
or
directions
for
us
to
be
looking
specifically
at
the
60
Ami
grouping,
for
example,
of
our
inclusionary
zoning
does
not
at
the
10
that
we
have.
We
just
talked
about
how
public
housing
would
be
the
potentially
create
the
greatest
number
of
units
and
is
also
incredibly
difficult
to
execute.
G
And
so
what
that's
doing
is
it's
it's
requiring
a
certain
minimum
price
point
in
order
to
cover
the
cost
of
creating
whatever
that
number
footage
number
is,
and
you
know
you
could
get
rid
of
those
the
New
York
State
Building
Code
has
minimum
square
footages
for
habitability.
You
don't
necessarily
have
to
add
another
layer
to
that.
G
You
could
just
rely
on
the
New
York
State
Building
Code,
to
make
sure
that
you
know
units
are
habitable
which
they
would
be,
and
so
you
know
allowing
smaller
units
to
be
created
can
also
allow
them
to
be
more.
Affordable
could
also
allow
for
more
of
them
to
be
created
in
the
same
space
where
you
might
have
fewer
units
that
are
a
larger
size.
B
B
D
B
B
Two
cents
is
at
least
from
what
I've
been
told,
certainly
by
our
planner,
that
we're
sort
of
like
one
of
the
only
communities
that
does
it
without
any
subsidy
and
for
us
to
go
any
higher.
There's
this.
We
need
to
develop
a
set
of
incentives
or
we'll
get
nothing
right.
That's
my
how
I
understand
the
numbers
I.
L
A
B
Viewed
as
a
package
right
and
the
workforce
piece
was,
could
be
done
closer
to
market
right,
because
the
Ami
numbers
for
Workforce
would
be
high
enough
to
probably
hurdle
in
a
new
development
right
that
was
kind
of
our
thinking.
Originally
was
that's
the
piece
we're
trying
to
Target
with
that.
If
we're
trying
to
Target
a
different
Ami
I
think
we
would
look
at
different
Arrangements
right,
you
know
we're
talking
a
beacon
housing
authority
and
we're
looking
at.
Maybe
we
could
adjust
their
zoning
to
encourage.
B
You
know
a
new
construction
if
there
was
some
land
available
by
the
prison
that
might
be
an
opportunity.
You
know
to
do
some
zoning
Route
52
we're
starting
to
lose
our
auto
dealers,
and
would
we
consider
zoning
that
might
change
from
you
know,
sort
of
low
intensity,
commercial
use
to
kind
of
higher
intensity
mixed
commercial
residential
use?
That
would,
you
know,
might
afford
that
opportunity
as
well
so
I
mean
I,
think
we're
going
to
have
to
figure
out.
If
that's
our
Target,
how
do
we
go
about
it?
B
B
We
were
targeting
a
particular
range
and
a
range
that
couldn't
be
got
with
Market
housing
right
and
it
was
going
to
have
to
be
some
sort
of
subsidized
program
and
we
were
looking
for
an
appropriate
Builder
to
work
with,
and
it
was
you
know,
someone
you.
You
know
well
right
right,
so
you
know
it's
sort
of
finding
the
right
mix
that
makes
it
work
as
opposed
to
just
you
know,
imposing
numbers
that
we'll
get
nothing
out
of.
G
And
you
know,
I
would
also
throw
this
into
the
mix
not
to
sort
of
confuse
things,
but
the
70
to
80
percent.
The
workforce
piece
is
also
really
important,
and
so
you
might,
you
might
sort
of
think
about
wow.
Maybe
you
can
do
a
two-tier,
maybe
you
can
maybe
you
can
expand
the
inclusionary
to
have
an
incentivized
piece
that
gets
you
to
a
deeper
level
of
affordability.
G
G
So
you
know,
maybe
it's
more
of
a
a
multi-track
approach
where
you
know
the
the
deeper
level,
the
deeper
affordability
level
you're
going
for
the
more
help
you're
going
to
need
to
get
there
and
it's
you
run
the
risk
if
it's,
if
it's
not
incentivized,
if
it's
just
a
required
inclusion
area
that
eventually
the
folks
who
are
the
ones
who
can
build
these
projects,
might
look
and
say
this
is
too
complicated
or
I
can't
make
it
pencil
out.
It's
it's
not
worth
it.
L
H
H
There
is
removing
some
barriers
from
the
process
that
probably
add
cost
whether
that
is
parking
restrictions.
The
you
know,
square
footage
minimums
that
the
header
was
referring
to
earlier
special
use
permits
and
things
like
that
that
kind
of
stuff.
If
you
can
remove
some
of
those
burials
barriers
for
affordable
housing,
then
that
can
be
helpful
and
then
the
third
thing
is
you
provide
an
incentive
in
exchange
for
for
more
affordable
units,
and
that
can
come
in
the
you
know,
the
form
of
allowing.
D
B
Right,
I,
look
at
that
slide
and
there's
five
quintiles,
there's
two
in
the
middle
that
are
about
zero
kind
of
a
little
higher
a
little
lower.
The
bigger
one.
That's
in
the
negative
is
the
lowest
quintile
right
and
so
for
us
to
say
that
the
50
000
Mark
is
what
we
need.
That
might
be
what
the
county
needs.
That's
that's
what
this
data
says
this
data
says
I
should
be
looking
for
another
program
at
the
lower
end,
meaning
the
beacon
Housing
Authority.
Would
you
agree
that
that's
what
the
data
says.
B
B
D
B
B
G
Just
telling
you
the
affordability
of
the
units
and
what
people
can
afford
and
and
where
they
mesh
and
where
they
don't,
and
so
there's
very
little
in
the
second
and
third
in
sort
of
the
twenty
thousand
to
fifty
thousand.
As
far
as
like
actual
units
right,
you've
got
units
at
the
low
lowest
one
and
you've
got
units
at
the
fourth
highest,
but
there's
really
not
much
in
there.
So.
B
A
L
Okay,
wait
I,
think
what
you're
saying
and
tell
me
if
I'm
wrong
here,
is
that,
if
we're
talking
about
how
to
prioritize
strategies,
you
want
us
to
be
prioritizing
what
would
formerly
be
called
building
public
housing,
but
we're
thinking
about
that
a
little
bit
differently
now,
but
regardless
it
would
be
through
the
vacant.
Housing
Authority,
as
opposed
to
these
sort
of
targets
that
are
looking
at.
B
G
Mean
I'm
looking
back
at
the
table
with
the
area
median
incomes,
it's
slide
18
and
there
is
not
a
single
Ami
income
level
listed
on
here.
That's
below
20
right,
even
one
person
at
30
Amis,
making
25
000..
So
if
you're
really
looking
to
to
for
to
to
Target
just
that
one
bar,
which
was
an
income
bracket
of
less
than
20.
B
L
Is
there
any
analysis
that
you
did
about
emergency
housing
where
it
is
where
it's
needed?
You
know
as
we're
talking
about
this
income
bracket
a
very
very
aware:
there
is
no
emergency
housing
in
the
city
of
Beacon,
and
so,
whenever
you
just
over
that
edge,
where
do
you
go
and
how
do
we
Circle
D?
That.
G
A
B
J
A
J
G
So,
there's
a
there's,
a
demographic
component
to
that
right
as
your
population
ages,
if
you,
if
you
build
a
lot
of
housing,
that's
that's
age,
restricted,
eventually
that
demographic
might
change
and
how
to
say
this
diplomatically
and
then
you
might
have
more.
We
all
feel
it
age-restricted
housing
than
you
have
Folks
at
that
age
to
fill
it
I'll.
H
An
age-restricted
development
right-
and
that
was
that
was
one
of
the
considerations-
was
concern
about
stressing
schools
and
we
all
know
well
that
that's
no
longer
like
our
schools
have
the
enrollment
has
been
down
for
15
years
now.
So
that's
that's
not
at
all
the
concern
anymore.
So
some
of
the
number
of
factors
have
changed,
and
there
are
a
number
of
concerns
that
make
us
generally
suggest
that
that
things
like
on
overlay
or
something
would
be
better
to
be
overall
affordable
instead
of
eight
restricted.
J
H
Site-Specific,
you
can
you
know
if
you,
if
you
have
like
a
city-owned
property
or
something
along
those
lines,
you
can
put
out
an
rfiei
or
something
like
that
and
try
to
encourage
things
like
that.
It's
a
little
bit
tougher
on
a
city-wide
scale
to
try
to
pick
and
choose
which
developers
are
going
to
be
interested
in
in
coming
and
working
in
the
city.
H
J
Also
wanted
to
say
also
just
my
compliments
to
choosing
the
way
the
number
50
000,
I
I
think
that
it
communicates
to
people
broadly,
because
we
know
what
we
make
and
what
we
can
afford.
True
right-
and
you
know
when
we
start
talking
about
Ami,
that's
a
different
level
that
only
a
small
percentage
of
us
work
in
that
area.
So
I
think
it's
great
that
that
you
and
the
Consultants
made
the
choice.
G
H
I
Oh
gosh
I'm
blanking
now,
forgive
me.
Forgive
me.
No
I
wanna
just
jump
back
into
strategies
on
affordability
and
specifically
looking
at
our
vacancy
rate
and
the
lack
of
Apartments
I
I'm
concerned
about
our
renters
that
live
here
now
and
if
something
happens
where
they
can
no
longer
afford
their
unit,
then
they're
not
just
displaced
from
their
neighborhood,
their
displaced
from
Beacon.
I
I
G
Yeah
you
know,
I
I
would
say
that
the
adus
is
a
great
way.
You
know
sort
of
making
it
easier
and
expanding
people's
ability
to
have
an
accessory
dwelling
unit
because
those
can
sort
of
like
they
can
be
sort
of
like
niched
in
in
all
sorts
of
places
throughout
your
community
I
know
you
just
did
that
pardon
my
not
knowing
do
you
have
short-term
rental
regulations.
B
G
That's
another
one:
you
know
we
didn't
really
talk
about
it
and
I.
Don't
it's
it's
not
sort
of
a
crisis
impact
in
Dutchess
County.
The
way
it
is
in
other
parts
of
the
country,
but
certainly
every
time
a
long-term,
a
long-term
rental
unit
or
or
an
ownership
unit
is
transferred
into
a
short-term
rental.
That's
that's
the
loss
of
of
a
housing
unit
for
someone
who
wants
to
live
in
your
community
so
making
sure
that
you're
you're
taking
a
look
at
that
and
thinking
carefully
about.
You
know
their
sort
of
pros
and
cons.
B
B
A
F
A
B
I
E
P
H
I
B
D
A
M
O
The
obviously
the
the
assessment
cycle
is
for
2023
has
just
completed
the
city's
final
assessment
role
was
published
on
July
1st
and,
as
often
is
the
case
during
the
assessment
cycle,
you
know
questions
are
raised.
The
city
receives
some
from
residential
homeowners
about
the
process
about
how
the
city
goes
about
its
assessing
function
and
the
thought
was.
O
Perhaps
it
would
be
a
worthwhile
just
tonight
to
kind
of
go
over,
give
a
kind
of
a
primer
or
an
overview
of
the
purpose
of
this,
of
assessing
what
it's
intended
to
do,
how
it's
administered,
how
it's
applied?
It's
a
process,
I
think
that's
often
kind
of
misunderstood
or
misconstrued
with
really
the
taxing
function
and
although
they're
related,
they're,
really
separate
things,
and
so
with
Kathy,
we
just
kind
of
like
to
walk
through
some
sort
of
big
question
or
big.
O
O
O
It
is
all
a
product
in
terms
of
the
way
it
is
to
be
administered
and
it's
overarching
objectives,
all
a
product
of
New,
York,
state
law,
the
real
property
tax
law,
which
defines
what
the
objectives
of
assessing
are
to
be.
What
the
municipal
obligations
are,
how
the
how
the
method
in
terms
of
how
assessments
are
set
and
also
the
process
by
which
assessments
can
be
challenged.
O
O
All
they
are
is,
as
I
said,
the
the
mechanism
for
determining
how
an
overall
tax
levy
is
going
to
be
apportioned
among
property
owner
taxpayers.
So
every
year
each
taxing
jurisdiction
creates
its
own
budget,
the
city,
does
it
the
beacon,
City
School
District?
Does
it
the
county?
Does
it
and
that
overall
budget
is
then
collected
and
levied
through
the
form
of
an
aggregate
collection
of
taxes,
and
it's
apportioned
and
collected
based
upon
the
assessment
of
individual
properties
so
as
a
result
and
in
Beacon
and
we'll
get
to
it
in
a
minute.
O
O
So,
for
example,
parcel
one
is
a
residence
that
was
assessed
in
2021
at
382
800
dollars
in
2122
on
account
of
overall
rise
in
residential
values,
application
of
a
state
Trend
we'll
get
to
that
in
a
minute.
That
assessment
was
increased
by
10
percent
to
four
hundred
and
twenty
one
thousand
one
hundred
dollars
likewise
parcel
to
251
100
in
2021,
a
10
increase
to
276
thousand
two
hundred
dollars
in
in
2022.
O
We
took
those
assessments
and,
for
example,
for
parcel
one
parcel
2
for
all
of
them.
We
applied
the
tax
rates,
City
Library
School
School,
District
Library,
which
are
which
are
levied
together,
City
and
County.
As
a
celebrity
against
the
2021
assessments
on
that
particular
on
each
of
these
particular
parcels.
O
We
then
sensible,
2022
is
now
you
know
a
tax
year.
That's
in
the
rear
view
mirror
with
the
collection
of
2023
city
and
county.
We
did
the
same
exercise.
We
took
that
all
of
the
higher
Assessments
in
2022
we
applied
the
corresponding
22,
23
School
library
rates
and
the
23
County
and
City
rates
and
compared
where
did
they?
O
You
know
what
what
did
it
represent
in
overall
overall
taxes
paid,
okay
overall
taxes
paid
for
each
parcel,
and
what
we
found
is
that,
with
regard
to
the
school
district,
there
was
a
you
know:
a
modest
increase
overall,
all
on
the
order
of
about
one
to
1.2
percent.
That's
the
the
third
from
last
column.
O
Then
we
would
look
at
the
county
and
the
city
taxes.
County
taxes
decreased
again
all
on
the
order
of
about
3.8
to
4
percent
and
city
taxes.
Again
in
terms
of
actual
dollars,
outlayed
word
we're
all
in
the
in
the
deficit
column
of
of
less
than
like
about
two
and
a
half
two
point:
four
two
and
a
half
percent.
O
You
know
two
years
that
we
have
for
purposes
of
comparison.
You
see
that
yeah
School
slightly
up,
County
and
and
City
down.
Does
this
mean
this
will
happen
every
year?
No,
but
it
does
show
it
just.
You
know,
underscores
the
point
that
an
increase
in
assessment
is
not
an
automatic
tax
increase,
so
you
can
go
to
the
next
slide.
A
And
and
you'd
be
free
leave.
This
slide
just
we've
talked
about
adjusted
base
proportions
and
how
that
affects
the
breakdown
between
Homestead
and
non-homestead
in
the
tax
year
that
they
were
just
talking
about.
There
was
a
decrease
for
Homestead,
but
there
was
a
modest
increase
for
commercial
or
non-homestead
properties.
That
was
the
opposite
last
for
for
this
year.
So
this
year
we
had
a
little
bit
of
an
increase
in
Homestead,
but
the
non-homestead
actually
went
down
it
wasn't
because
of
the
rates
that
we
set.
A
A
O
D
O
They're
everybody
recognizes
it's
a
it's
just
a
very,
very
sloppy,
it's
a
very,
very
inefficient
and
and
in
its
own
way,
inequitable
way
of
assessing.
So
one
of
the
ways
the
state
of
New
York
tried
to
kind
of
use
a
carrot
approach
in
terms
of
getting
municipalities
like
Beacon
to
reassess
was
they
opt
they
offered
this
Homestead
option
Homestead
non-homestead,
why
they
did
it,
because
what
has
often
occurred
when
there's
a
revaluation
is
that
there
is
because
take
like
I,
said,
an
assessment
role
from
the
1950s
and
now
you're
going
to
revalue
everything.
O
So
what
New,
York
State
allowed
was
the
creation
of
the
homestead
option
and
basically,
what
it
said
or
provides.
Is
that
when
you,
when
you
reval
and
you
go
into
your
first
year,
you're
going
to
look
basically
at
the
proport,
the
pro
rata
apportionment
of
all
commercial
non-homestead
properties
and
all
Homestead
Properties
and
you're,
going
to
kind
of
freeze
those
proportions
going,
you're
not
going
to
freeze
them
in
perpetuity,
but
you're
gonna,
you're,
gonna,
lock
them
in
to
avoid
having
the
you
know,
the
brunt
of
a
reassessment
hit
the
residential
component
of
the
community.
O
O
Kathy
works
with
our
local
state,
Corps
Office
of
Real
Property,
Tax,
Services
rep
to
come
up
with
those
they're
all
in
a
you
know
a
you
know
a
Precast
computation
sheet,
but
those
are
done
every
year
and
whatever
they
are,
they
are
so
you'll
get
because
of
adjusted
based
proportions.
You
will
get
years
where
maybe
it's
a
little
more
on
one
side
or
the
other,
but
yeah.
K
Okay,
so
the
adjusted
based
proportions
really
what
it
is,
is
a
measurement
of
the
two
different
sections
of
the
assessment
role,
the
residential
portion
and
the
commercial
portion,
and
it
allows
for
the
computation
that
Judd
is
speaking
about,
allows
for
no
drastic
shifts
to
any
one
of
those
classes.
So
Beacon
usually
runs
around
70
percent
residential
and
30
commercial.
B
A
K
K
F
O
Oh
no,
no!
No!
This
is
nice
yeah.
So
again
we
assess
it.
100
percent,
a
hundred
percent
being
representative
of
market
value.
As
I
said,
it's
the
method
of
assessment.
That's
encouraged,
really
sought
by
New,
York
and
reassessing
year
to
year
promotes
assessment
Equity
because
all
properties
are
being
looked
at
top
to
bottom
and.
B
B
Like
that,
and
in
going
to
that,
the
equity
that
you
spoke
of,
if
you
haven't
reassessed
in
a
couple
of
generations,
that
means
the
neighborhood
that
appreciated
in
value
a
lot
in
the
last
two
generations
is
getting
a
deal
and
the
neighborhood
that
didn't
appreciate
is
paying
more
than
they
should.
As
you
mentioned,
if
I
go
to
court,
I
probably
closer
to
the
right
number,
if
I
don't
know
how
to
do
that,
so
there's
a
bunch
of
inequity
issues
for
not
going
to
a
hundred
the
other
big
change
was
is
litigation.
B
K
B
No,
but
it
well
that's
how
the
that's
how
the
program
works.
So,
if
you
are
at
full
value,
the
state
will
assess
how
close
are
you
and
you've
got
five
percent
wiggle
room
right,
and
so,
if
you're,
at
95
or
96
they're
going
to
give
you
100.
if
you're,
not
at
100,
let's
say
you're
at
40.
the
state's
going
to
measure
exactly
where
you're
at,
if
you're,
at
40
they're
going
to
adjust
the
tax
rates
so
you're
at
100.,
so
there's
no
benefit
for
not
being
at
full
value.
You
actually
have
a
slight
benefit.
B
K
J
K
O
O
Maybe
ten
I
mean
it's,
it's
it's
compared
to
even
compared
to
other
jurisdictions
in
in
Duchess,
I
would
say
very
low
in
the
scars
I
mean
that's
scars
are
small
claims
assessment
review
proceedings
that
are
a
a
process
that
are
available
to
it's
kind
of
a
do-it-yourself
method.
To
challenge
your
assessment,
you
can
do
it
without
an
attorney
and
how
many
did
you
have
last
year
we.
O
O
How
do
we
get
the
numbers
so
and
I'm
going
to
kind
of
you
know
turn
to
Kathy
here,
but
just
a
few
overall
points.
One.
A
lot
of
our
annual
reassessment
is
driven
by
state
state
provided
data
sales,
Trend
data
in
particular.
How
does
the
state
do
that?
Well,
anytime,
property
closes
in
New,
York
state.
There
is
a
form
that
is
prepared
at
closing.
It's
called
the
RP
5217,
it's
the
equalization
form
and
it
reports
the
sale
price
tendered
for
a
piece
of
property.
O
You
know
validity
in
terms
of
what
numbers
generally
represent
the
value
that
goes
up
to
Albany
and
it
goes
into
kind
of
I,
always
picture
The
Wizard
of
Oz
when
I,
when
I
think
of
what
goes
on
up
there
kind
of
goes
into
a
black
box,
but
it
is
trended
by
the
state
on
an
annual
and
sort
of
a
historical
basis
and
that
that
that
data
Finds
Its
way
to
to
Kathy
you
know.
In
addition,
there's
an
ongoing
inventory
review
have
properties
changed.
Have
there
been
any
casualty?
Has
there
been
Improvement
oftentimes
on
sale?
O
K
K
We
do
get
all
the
sales
from
the
county
ones
that
do
not
go
through
the
multiple
listing
service,
some
that
are
Private
Sales.
We
do
work
very
closely
with
our
building
department
here
and
we
get
copies
of
all
the
CEOs
and
permits
that
are
issued.
If
I
ever
have
questions,
we
work
really
closely
with
all
the
building
inspectors
and
go
out
and
do
site
inspections
ourselves.
You
know
on
upon
sale
and
I
just
have
to
say
on
being
from
Beacon
and
growing
up
here
in
the
area.
D
O
Again,
a
lot
of
that
market
or
that
sales
at
closing
I
mean
asking
prices,
aren't
going
to
drive
assessments,
but
it's
it's
in
terms
of
what
the
state
looks
at,
but
it's
actual
sales
that
they
look
at.
So
you
will
get
sales
that
you
know
in
a
rising
market
right.
You
know
we're
gonna,
you're
gonna
get
as
we
did
in
22
at
you
know
a
you
know,
a
sales
trend
of
like
10
percent,
so.
D
F
O
Because
that
that
gets
into
the
that
gets
into
the
inventory
that
gets
into
kind
of
the
specific
that
there
you
are
going
to
have
properties
and-
and
that
happens
where
you
know
you'll
have
you'll
you'll
have
that
occur
and,
and
then
it's
like,
how
could
we
go
from
250
to
it
may
not
go
to
one?
It
may
not
go
to
1.1,
but
it
may
go
to
a
million
or
you
know,
I
mean
it's.
It's
going
to
get
picked
up
and
that's
typically
the
answer
is:
there
has
been
a
significant
change
in
condition.
O
O
I
put
on
valuation,
just
residential
valuations
are,
are
really
strictly
sales
based.
Just
you
know,
commercial
valuation,
depending
on
the
properties
are
also
you
will
look
at
for
income
generating
properties,
you'll
look
at
them
not
strictly
through
sales,
but
also
through
basically
a
like
a
like
an
income.
O
It's
the
income,
capitalization
approach,
the
reason
being
that
you
know
the
a
buyer
of
a
commercial
property
you
know
is
not
necessarily
going
to
look
at
a
comparable
sale
and
it's
going
to
look
at
what
my
income
potential
is
off
is
he's
buying
it.
He
or
she
is
buying
an
income
stream,
which
is
why
that
valuation
can
be
a
little
a
little
different,
but
for
them,
but
for
residential
that
you
know
it
is,
it
is
a
you
know,
a
sales
based
valuation
method
so
go
to
the
next
slide.
O
O
O
O
You
know,
there's
evidence
that
can
be
presented
to
the
board
of
assessment
review.
It
then
evaluates
and
makes
a
decision
whether
to
uphold
the
tentative
assessment
or
to
modify
it.
It
can't
increase
it
all
it
can
do
is
bring
it
down
and
then
on
July
1st
the
final
assessment
role
is
published
and
that's
fixed.
O
O
E
O
O
If
there
are
issues
with
regard
to
property,
if
there's
concerns
you
know,
Property
Owners
can
can
meet
with
Kathy
at
any
time.
In
addition,
although
not
on
this
particular
calendar,
there
is
a
statutory
requirement
that
that
Kathy
sit
with
the
assessment
role
here
in
City
Hall
prior
to
grievance
day,
and
those
are
one-
is
a
Saturday
yeah.
It's.
D
K
We
do
is
we
send
out
all
the
change
of
assessment
notices,
May
1st,
when
that
tentative
assessment
role
goes
live.
The
tentative
assessment
role
is
available
here
in
City
Hall
in
the
city
clerk's
office,
also
in
the
assessor's
office,
but
it's
also
available
on
Dutchess
County
parcel
access.
If
anybody
wants,
you
can
look
at
the
whole
assessment
role
for
the
whole
County,
and
at
that
time
we
send
out
all
the
change
of
assessment
notices
to
all
the
residents
in
the
city,
our
property
owners,
and
at
that
time
we
also
publish
legal
notices.
K
We
publish
notices
here
in
city
hall,
there's
several
days
that
are
defined
by
law,
one
of
which
is
a
Saturday.
Some
of
the
hours
are
in
the
evening.
The
law
is
very
specific
about
the
times
that
I'm
available
to
have
appointments
with
people
to
discuss
their
tentative
assessments
and
if
we
possibly
come
to
agreement
ahead
of
time,
we
enter
into
an
agreement
that
they
do
not
go
to
grieving
State
and
then
that
assessment
would
go
right
into
effect.
K
So
there
I
think
there's
like
four
different
days
and
times
during
the
day
in
the
evening
on
the
weekend.
For
people
that,
if
they
want
to
come
in
and
talk
about
their
assessment,
but
the
reality
is
like
Judd
said
that
we
are
here
all
year
long.
So
if
anybody
wants
to
discuss
any
concerns,
any
valuation
issues
there,
you
know
welcome
to
call
my
office
anytime
during
the
year.
F
F
K
D
O
O
It's
the
last
slide,
just
some
resources
again
Kathy
and
phone
number-
and
you
know
Kathy,
is
here:
Kathy
is
part-time
in
the
city.
She
also
serves
in
the
town
of
East
Fishkill,
but
you
know
her
assistant
Lenore
who's
here
this
evening
is
always
there
to
field
questions
and
get
them
to
her
and
then
the
the
the
the
the
three
you
know
internet
links.
These
are
all
Publications
through
New,
York,
State
and
actually
I.
O
It's
it
just
in
terms
of
of
someone
with
specific
Financial
specific
Financial
issues.
It
will
not
find
its
way
into
the
assessment
process
because
again,
the
assessment
is
strictly
driven
by
the
the
value
of
of
a
particular
property.
It's
not
tied
to
anyone's
particular
income
or
particular
financial
situation.
O
O
This
whole
process
is
the
foundation
for
this
whole
process
is
driven
by
New
York
state
law,
so
New,
York,
State
and
the
legislature
has
its
own
set
of
exemptions.
That
municipalities
can
enact-
and
you
know
they're
there
for
veterans
they're
there
for
certain.
You
know:
Municipal
volunteers
they're
there
for
the
disabled
for
senior
citizens
of
limited
income,
but
there
is
no
particular
exemption.
That's
strictly
based
on
you
know
like
an
exigent
Financial
issue,
or
you
know,
with
a
personal.
Q
L
M
Mr
Molly
online
can
I
jump
in
with
that
question,
to
go
back
to
Dan's
example
of
the
house,
you
know
say:
you're,
one
of
the
other
people
in
that
neighborhood
and
you
bought
your
house
as
well
for
250
000
and
did
not
flip
it
for
a
million
dollars
and
did
not
necessarily
do
the
renovations.
How
are
you
looking
at
the
improvements?
What
percentage?
How
do
you
determine
what
percentage
of
that
difference?
Should
change
in
your
assessment?
K
So
every
year
we
do
an
analysis
of
all
the
sales
in
the
city
of
all
the
different
kinds
of
properties,
all
the
different
types
of
properties
in
the
vacant
land,
and
then
we
come
well.
The
state
comes
up
with
what
they
think
the
Trend
should
be,
whether
it's
10
20
and
then
I
meet
with
them
to
negotiate
what
I
think
it
should
be.
So
any
you
know,
big
fluctuations
in
sales
prices
are
generally
addressed
in
the
trend.
M
So
just
to
follow
up,
make
sure
I
understand
so
the
trend,
because
it
was
interesting
to
see
that
most
over
10,
which
is
sort
of
a
flat
rate
on
added
to
previous
assessments,
and
so
it
sounds
like
that's
by
Design,
but
that's
kind
of
how
yes
properties,
increase
I.
Guess
a
solid
question
I
had
was
what,
if
I'm
the
person
who
sold
my
house
that
was
250
or
bought
for
a
million.
Maybe
more
importantly,
if
I
paid
a
million.
K
The
case
of
that
large
of
a
difference
in
between
the
assessment
and
the
sales
price
it
generally
would
speak
to.
In
addition,
a
total
renovation
of
a
property,
like
that's
a
big
variable,
250
to
a
million.
So
while
we
don't
hang
our
hat
on
a
sales
price,
we
do
wait
heavily
on
it,
but
we
will
look
at
other
sales
of
similar
properties
before
we
come
up
with
the
assessment
yeah.
B
D
C
B
And
then
you'll
have
a
you'll,
have
a
building
permit
right
or
you'll
have
some
indication
as
to
like
what
portion
of
it
may
be
due
to
expansion
of
the
building,
or
you
know,
total
renovation
of
the
building
versus
you
know.
Somebody
bought
low
and
sold
high
right,
and
the
other
thing
that
I
I
do
know
is
that
the
state,
in
their
analysis,
looks
at
sales
and
one
of
their
tests
that
they
do
is
comparing
the
assessment
for
properties
that
sold
versus
the
assessments
of
properties
that
didn't
so
didn't
sell
right.
K
D
K
D
K
K
A
K
I
mean
I
I
would
say
no
based
on
the
fact
that
what
the
mayor
was
just
explaining
about
how
the
trends
are
derived.
You
know
new
cons,
it's
very
interesting
in
the
city.
The
market
has
been
fascinating,
really
like
some
of
the
newer
constructions
that
you
would
think
would
sell
for
more,
don't
and
and
it's
more
the
architecturally
interesting
homes
that
bring
a
higher
market
value,
so
I
mean
it's
just
overall,
been
very
interesting.
I
think
people
will
be
studying
this
market
for
years
and.
K
A
Sure
sure
so
again,
Judd
had
raised
the
example
of
some
of
the
communities
in
in
Westchester
that
haven't
reevaluated
for
three
or
four
decades.
In
those
cases,
if
you
bought
a
house
and
you've
sat
on
that
for
30
or
40
years,
your
assessments,
having
gone
up
at
the
rate
that
somebody
who
bought
a
house
two
years
ago
did,
and
so
one
of
the
advantages
of
having
the
100
assessment
and
reevaluating
every
year
is
everybody's
on
a
on
a
Level
Playing
Field.
Whether
you've
been
here
for
40
years
or
you've,
been
here
for
four
months.
O
Welcome
stranger
is
in
a
welcome.
Stranger
is
a
a
concept
or
a
Prohibition
in
in
communities
that
don't
reassess
every
year
and
the
idea
is
to
avoid
having
the
person
who
comes
in
and
buys
High
being
able
to
go
in
and
say
we're
jumping
you
up,
while
everybody
else
stays
where
they
are
and
you
get
you
get
kind
of
a
variation.
O
I
think
this
is
what
Chris
is
alluding
to
oftentimes
it's
just
a
tendency
is
as
new
as
new
construction
and
new
homes
come
on
as
inventory
in
those
communities
and
I
won't
say
it's
even
necessarily
by
Design.
But
it's
just
you
know
it's
it's
the
Assessor's
tasked
with
trying
to
kind
of
come
up
with
a
value
for
those
homes,
you're
going
to
be
looking
at
sort
of
new
value,
and
it's
just
there's
just
a
tendency
for
those
to
always
be.
O
B
A
And
one
other
thing:
I
get
from
Kathy
every
year
is
how
much
new
construction
we've
put
on
our
assessment
roles.
So
if
we're
providing
the
same
Services
every
year
and
they're
going
up
at
a
certain
rate-
and
you
have
more
properties
now
to
shoulder
that
the
tax
increases
for
those
increases
or
expansions
of
service
or
less
so
like
last
year,
I
think
we
put
26
million
dollars
in
new
assessed
value
in
the
roles
the
year
before
was
over
50
million,
and
when
you
think
about
that
that
basically
pays
for
some
of
the
new
Services.
A
We
did
think
about
the
ambulance
service
that
we
started
two
years
ago.
So
Kathy
does
give
us
that
number,
and
that
really
is
that
that's
allowing
us
capacity
to
expand
services
and
and
invest
in
our
infrastructure
without
going
back
to
the
same
taxpayers
who
are
already
paying
for
the
base
services.
G
L
O
E
O
Yep,
for
you
know,
a
rental
and
a
homestead
unit
could
potentially
jeopardize
Homestead
status.
That's
that's
one
thing
potentially,
but
you
know
there's
going
to
be
a
lower
there's
going
to
be
a
lower
tax
burden
on
that
Homestead
Property,
regardless
right
and
then
on
a
commercial
right
right,
yeah.
K
A
A
B
6A,
so
more
than
four
dollars
more
that's
more
than
50
percent
higher
tax
rate
right,
so
two
properties,
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
the
homestead.
A
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
the
non.
The
tax
rate
is
that
much
higher
right,
six
dollars
on
the
homestead
more
than
ten
dollars
on
the
other.
So
how
does
it
affect
a
renter
if
you're
in
a
unit,
if
you're
an
apartment
with
four
units,
given
our
vacancy
rate
is
zero?
That
higher
tax
rate
is
absolutely
passed
on
right
and
there's
no
benefit
to
the
landlord?
The
landlord's.
B
Right,
no
because
we
actually
so
you
know,
you
all
know
that
I
I
worked
the
state
agency
that
you
mentioned
orps
right
right.
We
we
tried
to
propose
legislation
which
you
know
didn't
go
anywhere
after
I
left
to
give
communities
in
Homestead
non-homestead
places
options
for
things
they
might
be
able
to
do
to
change
that,
and
one
of
them
was
a
Main
Street.
B
You
might
want
to
get
the
lower
tax
rate
back
on
a
main
street
as
opposed
to
a
commercial
District
somewhere
else
or
to
take
Apartments
out
of
the
homestead
non-homestead,
because
it's
so
much
higher
attacks,
that's
being
imposed
or
some
other
flexibility
or
shifted
to
shift
that
percentage
over
time.
But
particularly
it's
odd
that
the
you
argue.
Well,
maybe
the
commercial
group
could
pay
the
higher
tax
we
don't
mind,
but
renters
are
paying
a
higher
tax
right
now,
which
is
really
odd
right,
but.
A
So
we'll
hope
to
do
these
once
a
year.
What
we
realized
is
we're
getting
enough
questions.
We
have
enough
people
moving
into
the
community,
particularly
from
areas
where
they're
less
reliant
on
the
property
tax
and
more
reliant
on
an
income
tax.
So
we're
going
to
do
this
presentation
each
Spring
right
before
the
letters
go
out
and
we'll
we'll.
O
K
B
B
In
fact,
for
beacon
on
the
homestead
side
that
year
dropped
more
than
10,
because
it
was
a
net
decline
right
and
that's
going
to
keep
happening
so
long
as
the
people
at
this
table.
Don't
raise
taxes,
a
significant
percentage
right.
So
if
we
manage
the
overall
Levy
effectively
and
assessments,
keep
going
up
in
terms
of
appreciation
that
rate's
going
to
keep
falling
to
offset
that.
K
B
K
K
K
A
B
D
A
Two
two
amendments
mayor
we
have
the
first
amendment
is
to
increase
finance
budget,
the
overtime
line
by
six
thousand
dollars.
We
are
proposing
to
transfer
that
from
an
additional
Revenue
that
we've
been
getting
from
interest
and
earnings
on
our
Nye
class
Investments.
All
of
the
fund
balance
that
we
have
and
the
available
cash
are
invested
through
the
New
York
Cooperative
liquid
asset
security
system,
which
is
a
guaranteed
system
that
municipalities
are
allowed
to
use.
It
has
very
conservative
Holdings,
like
treasury,
bonds
and
and
guaranteed
bank
deposits.
A
So,
as
the
interest
rates
have
gone
up,
we've
made
some
additional
interest
and
we're
proposing
to
put
that
towards
the
finance
budget
shortfall.
The
second
item
is
to
fund
the
fire
and
Highway
a
retirements.
We
had
one
person
leave
fire
and
two
people
leave
from
Highway,
so
we're
proposing
to
transfer
11
470
from
our
contingency
retirement
fund
over
to
Severance,
and
this
is
a
different
contingency
than
the
contingency
we
normally
use.
So
we
have
three
contingencies
in
the
budget.
A
B
I
D
B
B
D
B
B
D
D
B
F
C
Without
a
stronger
local
Historic,
District
No
protection
is
possible.
Getting
one
established
is
not
easy.
As
a
Municipality
of
New
York
state,
the
city
of
Beacon
should
have
a
historic
district
and
landmark
preservation
commission.
Unfortunately,
the
city
only
has
a
weak
arm.
Architectural
Review
Board
made
up
of
mostly
planning
board
members
and
a
few
Outsiders,
but
it
serves
only
as
an
Advisory
Board
to
the
planning
board.
It's
a
crock
of
BS.
We
are
losing
houses
left
and
right
and
what
looks
like
it
might
be.
C
D
C
Historic
building
inventory
being
eroded
weekly
and
with
the
recent
rezoning
across
the
map,
many
of
the
city
Treasures,
are
being
encroached
upon.
The
city
must
stop
offering
variances
and
setbacks
on
every
project
that
comes
before
the
city,
enforce
the
codes
on
the
books
and
not
revise
them
to
fit
a
a
new
large-scale
project.
I'm
displayed
with
the
lack
of
talk
of
these
new
expansions
in
these
districts
is
not
met
with
greater
disdain
from
the
Council
on
its
boards.
C
After
the
many
promises
during
the
election
process
to
scale
back
over
development,
only
a
great
learning
of
the
teeth
by
lawyers
developers,
contractors
and
some
real
estate.
Folks
residents
are
tired
of
talking
to
the
wall.
The
city
has
talked
for
years,
how
business
Industries
have
left
Beacon
for
decades,
and
tonight
Workshop,
we
heard
mention
turning
from
soon
to
be
vacated
car
dealerships
into
housing.
I
suggest
this
municipality,
seek
more
commission,
Commercial,
Business
Industries
to
come
to
town
and
offer
job
opportunities
for
its
residents
heck.
C
What's
one
more
Brewery
Tap
into
our
water
supply
for
18
months,
residents
have
filled
this
room
against
a
large
venue
developers
made
promises
to
scale
its
daily
event.
The
tenants
back
way
back
and
at
their
last
pitch
revealed
that
they
will
hold
multiple
events
a
day,
literally
bringing
the
large
number
back
to
the
objectable
number
for
this
site
plan.
It
appears
that
the
planning
board
just
threw
in
the
towel
and
the
concerned
residents
under
the
bus
proof.
We
are
watching
another
dog
and
pony
show
I'll
sit
for
the
rest
of
this.
Thank
you.
D
N
N
A
rather
useless,
although
interesting,
well-prepared
presentation
but
useless
to
the
city
of
Beacon's
particular
amenity
in
demand.
It's
present
the
forecast
in
that
document
of
using
the
Cornell
numbers
to
forecast
growth
from
a
hundred
and
eight
thousand
units
in
the
county
to
111.
a
3
000
unit
growth
for
the
next
20
years,
isn't
absurdity.
P
I'm
I'm,
getting
the
feeling
that
we
as
seniors
are
being
disregarded
And.
Yet
when
it
comes
for
voting,
people
come
to
our
building
and
promise
all
kinds
of
things
and
don't
deliver
and
really
the
question
for
me
in
we
have
these
people
coming
on
the
weekends.
So
is
the
interest
of
theirs?
I
can't
even
go
on
Main
Street
on
the
weekend,
because
those
people
do
not
give
me
the
time
of
death.
P
So
I
can
do
things
as
a
local
during
the
week
for
the
people
that
come
up
during
the
weekends
do
not
even
allow
me
to
get
by
them
so
I'm,
beginning
to
get
to
sense
that
people
with
money,
those
that
come
up
have
more
rights
than
I
do
as
a
senior
at
Forest
Ohio
and
as
far
as
housing
loans.
When
I
first
came
up
to
be
in
in
2002.
D
P
E
I
I've
actually
been
talking
to
a
lot
of
forestall
heights
residents
and
people
that
ride
the
G
bus
because
I
ride
it
as
well
and
I.
Think
the
rumors,
in
the
confusion,
are
coming
from
the
suggestions
from
the
Main
Street
access
committee
report,
where
it
was
suggested
that
we
have
frequent
Loop
going
back
and
forth
down
Main
Street,
but
that
is
not
as
far
as
I'm
aware
any
plan.
That's
in
motion
to
change
the
route
that
is
the
beacon,
Free
Loop,
so
that
I.
I
A
A
E
D
A
Is
an
expansion
of
service
like
to
that
particular
area,
but
yeah?
It
would
go
from
being
on
the
G
line,
which
would
become
more
of
a
Main
Street
shuttle,
as
our
planner
and
and
our
dri
Grant
had
asked
for,
and
then
the
F
and
the
B
would
be
augmented
so
that
they
passed
by
those
areas.
There
would
be
a
charge.
I
I
I
want
to
thank
the
Hudson
villains
or
Trail
for
throwing
an
amazing
Community
Day
this
past
weekend
the
free
ice
cream
was
delicious.
The
house
tours
were
pretty
incredible
and
it
was
all
in
all
a
great
event
and
I
look
forward
to
seeing
what
the
future
brings
to
Beacon
and
they
have
lots
of
information
on
the
website
and
they're
hosting
lots
of
community
events.
I
So
I
really
just
appreciate
all
the
Outreach
that
they're
doing
and
the
amount
of
community
that
they're
taking
in
so
I
just
wanted
to
give
them
thanks
for
that,
I
also
want
to
thank
our
Parks
and
Rec
Department
for
all
of
the
amazing
events
that
they've
been
doing
this
summer.
It
seems
like
the
movies,
are
getting
a
good
turnout.
I
hear,
there's
another
movie,
I,
believe
it's
the
screening
of
The
Princess
Bride
on
Thursday
at
the
riverfront
park
and
I
heard
the
screen.
Last
week,
at
Green,
Street
Park
went
really
well
I'm.
I
Sure
Chris
was
going
to
announce
this,
but
I'm
Adam,
Brett
Park,
the
walkway
is
closed
for
repairs
and
I
want
to
congratulate
all
the
artists
and
performers
that
participated
in
Open
Studios
this
weekend
it
was
a
great
event
and
I
didn't
get
to
go
to
everything,
but
I
heard
a
lot
of
wonderful
things
and
I
love
being
in
an
artistic
and
creative
Community
where
we
get
to
do
so.
Many
amazing
things
and
I
look
forward
to
what
comes
next
and
I'll
pass
to
whoever.
J
F
Okay,
I'm
just
seeing
what
I
can
cut
out
here,
no
I,
you
know
I
just
want
to
thank
all
the
First
Responders
and
city
employees
and
volunteers
who
who
tried
to
rescue
the
woman
who
fell
into
the
Falls
and
and
our
heart
goes
out
to
the
family.
I
also
am
thinking
a
lot
about
safety
around
the
creek,
and
we
know
that
there
haven't
been
many
accidents
over
the
years,
but
I
did
recall.
F
It
did
remind
me
that
there
was
supposed
to
be
I
believe
there
was
supposed
to
be
some
kind
of
viewing
platform
on
the
west
side
of
the
Falls
I.
Don't
remember
the
details
of
it,
so
I'm
kind
of
looking
at
you
Nick
to
see.
If
maybe
we
could
just
get
an
update
that
on
that
sometime,
that
there
was
supposed
to
be
something.
Q
A
Q
B
A
I
just
want
to
know
we're
having
some
technical
difficulties
with
our
website
right
now,
so
the
agenda
for
tonight
is
disappeared
and
we're
trying
to
restore
that
as
quickly
as
possible.
So
if
you're
on
zoom-
and
you
can't
find
the
agenda
we'll
have
it
up
tomorrow
as
soon
as
we
can
figure
out,
yeah
I
think
we
waited
too
long
like
at
nine
o'clock.
It
becomes
a
pumpkin
I.