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From YouTube: Beacon Council Workshop 4-17-23
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The City of Beacon Council Workshop from April 17, 2023
B
All
right,
good
evening,
everyone
I
see
you
a
huge
crowd.
B
Then
we're
also
live
on
the
remote
version
of
this.
So
welcome
to
you
all.
This
is
a
Workshop,
so
we
don't
have
to
do
the
official
activities
of
a
council
meeting.
There's
also
no
public
comments.
B
Then
we've
got
10
items
in
an
executive
session
regarding
Personnel,
so
let's
get
started,
John
Clark.
Are
you
online
or
remotely?
Yes?
Well,
you're
up?
First
John,
we
wanted
to
kind
of
come
back
to
your
list
of
things
that
you
mentioned
the
other
day
and
see
if
we
can
advance
that
discussion.
A
B
D
C
Start
with
the
affordable
housing
options
memo
that
I
wrote
on
March
22nd
that
I
introduced
two
weeks
ago,
the
first
item:
what
I
thought
was
this
sort
of
Easy
Pickins
and
no
brainer
was
to
revise
the
senior
affordable
housing
overlay
District
to
allow
that
overlay
District
to
be
assigned
to
any
parcel
around
the
city
rather
than
with
a
strict,
and
that
would
just
be
a
neat
the
process
of
going
through
and
essentially
eliminating
and
changing.
A
few
Provisions
which
I
listed
in
my
memo.
B
C
Went
over
them
last
time,
but
you
know
I
didn't
get
much
feedback.
So
that's
what
I
assume
that
I'm
here
for
tonight
is
to
get
so
there's
some
direction
as
to
which
way
to
go.
B
Yeah,
the
can
you
is
this
overlay
only
applicable
to
the
old
hospital
property
as.
C
It's
written
right
now:
yes,
it
was
it
I
mean
I
wasn't
around
when
it
was
adopted,
but
it
seems
tailor-made
for
that
property
and
no
other
property
in
the
city.
So
I
did
you
know
the
the
Provisions.
Don't
allow
new
construction.
The
building
has
to
be
50
years
old.
It
has
to
have
a
certain
large
parking
capacity.
C
B
Yeah
that
was
my
recollection
as
well,
so
that
what
you're
saying
is
there's
two
things
that
we
can
be
doing.
We
can
improve
the
zoning
within
the
district
to
simplify
or
make
less
expensive
or
make
denser
senior
affordable
housing,
and
then
we
can
also
extend
that
that
zoning
into
other
areas
like,
for
instance,
maybe
it
would
be
applicable
to
forestal
Heights
and
might
give
them
some
opportunity,
maybe
there's
some
other
places
as
well
all
right.
Those
are
the
two
things
we
can
do
right.
C
Right
I
would
I
would
make
it
available
anywhere
in
the
city,
because
the
way
it
works
is
any
applicant
has
to
come
to
the
city
council
and
get
the
overlay
Zone
applied
to
a
parcel.
So
the
village
can
entertain
any
options
or
the
city
can
entertain
any
options,
and
then
it
could
also
turn
down
anything
that
it
didn't
seem
was
appropriate
in
that
neighborhood
or
in
that
particular
location.
E
C
Yeah
I
think
that
would
be
logical,
but
it
is
a
rezoning
request.
So
there's
no
obligation
for
you
to
adopt
anything.
You
make
it
available.
If
you
can
put
I'm
sure,
there's
conditions
in
there
that
if
you
don't
think
it's
appropriate
for
that
neighborhood,
then
you
could
turn
it
down
if
it
if
it
seems
like
it,
doesn't
fit
with
that
parcel,
you
can
turn
it
down,
but
it
also
opens
up.
You
know
any
parcel
I
would
say
of
any
moderate
size
rather
than
any
big
parcel.
C
F
C
Yes,
the
way
it
is
set
up
now
the
city
first
has
to
approve
the
zoning
overlay
for
a
particular
parcel.
So
it
comes
before
the
council.
You
have
a
public
hearing,
you
go
through
that
process
and
if
you
deem
it's
the
right
fit
for
that
area,
you
put
it
into
the
senior
housing
overlay
Zone.
C
So
it
didn't
make
sense
for
me
to
then
it
have
to
have
come
back
again
to
the
council
and
do
a
special
permit,
because
that's
just
another
step
you
want
us,
you
want
to
make
them
the
process
more
flexible
and
streamlined.
You
don't
want
to
set
up
arbitrary.
You
know
reasons
for
something
to
fail,
so
it
would
have
the
council
reviewed
during
the
rezoning
process
and
it
would
have
the
planning
Board
review
during
site
plan
process,
and
it
seems
to
me
that
covers
the
basis.
F
So
there
could
the
the
special
permit
that
we're
talking
about
and
that
you're
talking
about
in
G
is
the
that's.
The
one
where
you
can
build
out
to
your
maximum
density,
which
special
use
permit
is
that
it.
C
C
You
could
do
another,
you
could
do
another
overlay
zone
for
non-senior,
affordable
housing,
for
instance,
or
you
could
open
this
one
up
and
just
take
the
senior
out
and
make
it
for
affordable
housing
in
general.
But
you.
C
And
that's
a
I
think
a
a
good
role
for
overlay
District
to
do,
but
you
can,
you
can
make
overlay
districts
apply
to
and
the
city
or
in
specific
districts
it's
a
very
flexible
tool.
B
The
other
one,
the
one
we
have
here
is
you
know:
John
is
the
historic
overlay
right
and
that's
the
one
that
we've
had
for
a
long
time
and
we're
still
looking
to
apply
it
to
some
additional
properties
right
that
one
has
in
it
a
special
permit
because
of
the
additional
uses
which
may
or
may
not
fit
into
a
neighborhood.
B
When
we
put
a
house
into
the
historic
overlay,
and
even
that,
though
I'd
I'd
be
willing
to
say
that
should
go
to
just
the
planning
board
to
make
the
finding
as
opposed
to
us
yeah
because
I
my
two
senses
are
special
permits.
Generally
we're
heading
to
council
and
I
I
think
we
started
to
point
either.
B
C
I
wasn't
prepared
to
talk
about
the
historic
district
overlay,
but
I
think
it's
already
in
the
planning
board.
Yeah
a.
B
G
B
You
could
well,
but
we
already
have
in
the
code,
things
that
in
effect
do
the
same
thing
right,
because
we
have
specifics
code
regarding
Wetlands,
we
did
one
with
respect
to
steep
slope,
so
if
they
have
they're.
B
It
right
so
you've
kind
of
created
that
situation.
You
know
an
overlay
is
a
process,
but
we
can
also
protect
directly
that
way,
because
we
already
have
started
to.
F
C
C
I
you
know,
I
I
would
make
it
very
flexible
myself,
I
mean
I,
showed
you
four
Parcels
that
were
available
in
the
city
for
some
sort
of
Redevelopment.
You
know
if
the
owner
wish
to
do
so,
and
one
of
them
was
a
third
of
a
part.
A
third
of
an
acre
one
was
an
acre
and
a
quarter.
I
think,
and
there
were
two
that
were
much
larger.
C
C
B
B
B
Putting
that
in
there
would
allow
an
opportunity
to
alter
that
another
area
might
be
parts
of
the
prison
property
which
is
belongs
to
prison,
not
to
us,
but
maybe
someday.
What
about
Camp
Beacon?
Would
that
be
a
possibility
for
an
overlay?
I
know
the
one
overlay
we
have
is
Right
adjacent
to
the
prison
property
right.
C
B
F
Could
we
put
it,
could
we
do
the
CMS
and
the
train
and
the
T
zones
yeah.
F
B
I'm
with
you
I'm
thinking
about
either
Parcels
that
you
know
might
be
R1
but
aren't
developed.
That
was
the
golf
course
idea
or
adjacent
to
the
old
Highland
Hospital.
You
know
we
might
be
able
to
create
something
there,
but
I
have
the
same
question
that
Dan
does
John,
which
is
you
know,
would
that
impact
CMS?
B
Would
it
impact
tat?
T
might
be
interesting,
because
if
it
got
some
kind
of
benefits,
you'd
get,
you
know
you
might
get
some
senior
housing
right
next
to
Main
Street
as
Dan's
saying
yeah.
C
One
of
the
four
Parcels
I
showed
you
two
weeks
ago
was
one
block
off
off
Main
Street
a
vacant
parcel
third
of
an
acre
again,
but
you
could
also
I
mean,
depending
how
big
it
is
on
a
bigger
parcel.
Let's
say
you
created
enough
critical
mass
out
by
Meadow,
Ridge
or
Highland
Meadows
with
a
couple
more
up
there,
then
they
might
be
able
to
justify
a
shuttle.
Bus
system
say
to
bring
people
in
that
sort
of
thing.
J
J
If
someone
is
a
owns
that
property,
they
don't
necessarily
have
to
build
that
they
would
then,
if
they
wanted
to,
though
they
would
need
to
then
come
to
us,
go
through
a
formal
rezoning
and
then
go
to
the
planning.
Assuming
that
successful
then
go
to
the
planning
board
for
a
site
review.
Is
that
kind
of
the
order
of
operations
or
there's
parts
that
I'm
not
quite
getting.
C
D
C
It
was
on
your
property
or
or
something
that
you
could
negotiate
with
the
owner.
That's
fine,
but,
generally
speaking,
these
are
generated
by
the.
B
Yeah
I
opened
2015
zoning
mat
because
it
was
on
my
computer
and
it
has
the
senior
affordable
housing,
overlay,
district
and
you're.
Absolutely
right.
It's
in
exactly
one
lot,
which
is
the
Highland
Hospital
one.
So
if
I'm
looking
at
that
map,
basically
extending
it
from
that
site
into
other
parts
near
there
might
be
interesting.
B
You
know,
as
Dan
mentioned,
you
know
in
our
dense
districts
right.
Would
it
make
a
difference
in
t,
CMS,
Fishkill,
Creek,
Waterfront.
B
B
F
I
mean
I
want
to
emphasize
the
the
walkability
part
in
the
high
density
part
I
think
when
we
start
getting
down.
You
know
to
that
the
last
area
on
South
Avenue,
where
you
described
it
it
starts
to
make
a
little
less
sense.
I
think
I
think
we
want
to
have
seniors
who
can
enjoy
Beacon
and
not
have
to
get
a
ride
to
Beacon
to
Main
Street.
C
Well,
this
can
also
work
on
a
senior
housing
overlay
for
people
who
are
not
in
a
shape
to
be
walkable
it.
It
can
apply
to
assisted
living,
and
you
know.
D
C
Sort
of
arrangement
Independent
Living-
that
needs
a
lot
of
Staff
support,
so
it
could
be
anywhere
in
the
city.
I
agree
that
a
few
of
the
sites
that
I
mentioned
three
out
of
the
four
sites
that
I
showed
you
last
time
were
all
within
walking
distance
of
this
of
the
center,
because
I
think
that's
a
valuable
attribute.
C
Think
it
would
be
harder,
but
because
we
compete
with
other
multi-family
options,
but
I
I
wouldn't
rule
it
out
either.
But
those
the
transitional
Zone
and
the
R1
zones
that
are
close
enough
to
be
walkable
I
think
are
the
places
that
I
would
look
for
the
best
opportunities.
And
in
order
to
do
that,
you
have
to
lower
the
number
of
units
in
a
project
in
the
number
of
acres
in
a
project,
because
there's
not
a
lot
of
really
big
lots
within
walking
distance
of
the
Main
Street.
G
I
hear
that
I
share
Dan's
concerns
about
the
accessibility
when
you're
farther
out
from
Main
Street.
You
know
even
when
you're
kind
of
close
to
Main
Street
but
you're
on
Fishkill,
Avenue
or
Walcott
you,
you
can't
get
your
you
know
wheelchair
around
the
telephone
pole.
So
you
know,
or
and
even
if
you're
you're
in
a
building
that
has
Supportive
Housing,
it
doesn't
get
to
the
granular
level
with
us
where
we,
you
know,
assess
how
many
case
managers
per
you
know
individual
at
those
buildings,
so
I
think
kind
of
broadly
looking
at
the
overlay
districts.
C
So
I
agree
that
we
should
try
to
concentrate
and
look
for
examples
within
walking
distance
of
the
main
street
or
within
a
few
blocks
or
four
or
five
blocks,
but
I
wouldn't
rule
out
other
options
too,
because
those
properties
out
there
have
been
successful
using
more
or
less
the
model.
The
senior
housing
overlay
Zone.
C
Right
and
also
what
are
the
options
that
I
put
on
the
table
was
lowering
the
age
limit
from
what
is
it
65
down
to
either
62
or
even
55?
So
you
know
a
lot
of
people
at
Highland,
Meadows,
Drive
cars.
They
have
cars
and
they're.
You
know
they're,
not
all
in
wheelchairs.
F
No,
what
I
had
in
mind
was,
you
know:
I,
sometimes
see
unsafe
things
happening
on
Route
52
people
who
are
unsure
on
their
feet,
walking
close
to
the
road
people
kind
of
swerving
around
them,
I
think
there's
been,
people
have
fallen
over
over
there
and
I.
Just
don't
want
to
create
a
whole
bunch
of
new
situations
where
we've
got
people
who
are
in
firm
or
put
it
this
way
less
firm
than
they
think
they
are
trying
to.
F
C
H
G
And
I
I
like
the
age,
you
know
lowering
the
barriers
on
age
to
some
extent,
I
mean
I,
can
think
of
reasons.
Why
and
why
not
to?
But
what
was
the
rationale
for
lowering
the
Ami.
C
Well,
generally
speaking,
you
know:
I
I,
think
that
that
hardest
hit
by
affordable
housing
crisis
are
people
under
you
know
seven,
eight
percent
or
so
of
median
income.
If
you
go
after
100
minimum,
then
a
lot,
you
know,
unless
you
have
state
funding
that
subsidizes
the
lower
end
of
the
spectrum,
you
tend
to
get
more
Workforce
type
housing
and
the
seniors
in
particular
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
seniors
who
are
struggling
so
100
just
seemed
High
to
me
our
regular,
the
workforce,
housing
inclusionary.
C
Zoning
that
you
have
in
the
code
now
is
70
and
I
thought
70
to
80
was
a
better
Target
than
100,
but
that's
that's
up
to
you
and,
and
we
could
consider
all
alternatives.
B
So
could
we
structure
it
because
I
I
know
some
of
our
affordable
units
today,
Target
very
different
Amis
like
Forrestal,
Heights
and
Hamp
fish
are
very
different
than
other
spots,
so
I'd
just
like
us
to
understand.
What's
our
current
mix
as
we're
kind
of
picking
where
we're
targeting,
but
otherwise
I
I'm
a
little
I
was
a
little
surprised
to
see
the
100
number
in
the
current
Zone
and
I
guess.
B
Just
because
the
percentage
is
lower
doesn't
mean
you
could
take
someone
at
a
higher
amount.
It
just
means
that
it
would
go
down
at
least
to
that
level.
Right.
C
And
the
other
thing
you
could
consider
is
allowing
a
mixed
income
sort
of
projects
in
this,
in
which
you
and
it's
about
having
100
affordable.
You
do
50,
affordable
or
some
much
higher
number
than
you
have
in
the
inclusionary
zoning,
but
allowing
more
flexibility
for
developers
so
that
they
can
use
the
market
rate
housing
to
help
subsidize
the
other
housing.
C
That's
also
an
option.
Oh.
C
F
Ahead,
could
we
do
it
as
if,
like
the
the
building
had
an
average
average
median
income,
meaning
all
of
the
units
had
to
average
out
to
70,
then
they
could
kind
of
pick
out?
You
know
some
will
be
50,
some
will
be
70.
Some
will
be
a
hundred.
C
I
yeah
I
think
that
would
be
an
interesting
way
of
doing
it.
There
are
places
that
have
sort
of
tiers.
You
have
to
have
so
much
percentage
of
this
and
so
much
percentage
of
that,
but
you
could
do
an
average
as
well
and
I
think
yeah
the
way
I
look
at
it.
This
is
that
you
know
you're
sort
of
it's
a
involuntary
incentive
to
create
cities
in
your
housing.
So
you
want
to
make
the
incentive
as
flexible
and
as
streamlined
as
possible
right.
C
You
know
what
I'll
throw
up
a
lot
of
hurdles
or
a
lot
of
specifics.
That
rules
out
certain
projects
that
might
be
worth
considering
so
I
would
try
to
simplify
the
requirements
in
the
district
as
much
as
possible
to
provide
the
most
incentive
for
developers
or
Property
Owners
to
come
in
and
say,
I've
got
a
piece
of
land
that
I
think
might
work
with
this
and
start
working
with
the
city
to
come
up
with
a
a
strategy.
C
A
new
change
gets
pushed
back
in
the
city
is
what
I've
seems
to
find
so
I
expect
pushback
on
anything
that
there's
always
the
traffic
issue
in
parking
senior
housing
tends
to
be
as
low
impact
as
anything.
So
you
would
tend
to
get
less
of
that,
because
seniors
don't
drive
as
much.
They
don't
have
children
to
flood
into
the
public
schools.
C
They
don't
have
late
night
parties
generally
and
and
create
noise
issues
generally
seniors
are
the
easiest
neighbors
to
come
up
with
so
I
expect
less
of
that
for
a
senior
than
a
you
know,
unrestricted,
affordable
housing
project,
but
I
assume
neighbors
will
always
say
you
know
I
like
that
field.
The
way
it
is
the
city
doesn't
have
any
constrictions
for
water
and
sewer,
generally
speaking,
so
it
usually
comes
down
to
traffic
and
the
enrollment
is
down
in
school.
C
C
You
could
do
a
senior
housing
make
these
changes,
which
would
only
take
a
couple
months
to
get
through
the
council
in
terms
of
the
public
hearing
and
that
sort
of
thing
it
wouldn't
be
a
fairly
easy
rewrite,
since
it's
already
on
the
books,
you
just
have
to
red
mark
it
up
and
switch
some
parameters,
and
then
you
could
use
it
as
a
model
for
an
affordable
housing
overlay
Zone
that
would
Target.
You
know
other
people
that
at
different
age
levels,
if
you
wanted
to.
B
So
let
me
suggest
a
path
forward.
Why
don't
we
see
if
you
can
start
to
mark
up
the
current
one
with
what
this
changes
might
be?
That
would
improve
the
attractiveness
of
this,
so
we
could
get
more
and
then
also
look
at
some
of
the
areas
and
in
particular
you
know.
How
would
this
affect
some
of
the
denser
areas,
because
it
wasn't
really
designed
for
that
right,
but
take
a
look
at
that
and
then
come
back
with
that
work
for
everyone.
F
J
J
Yeah
and
there's
stuff
kind
of
along
52
and
there's
one
in
the
middle
of
the
between
the
Waterfront
District
ones.
There's
one
there
so
again
if
there
are
thriving
businesses
and
they
don't
want
to
do
it
again,
I'm
just
thinking
of
as
John
said,
given
the
flexibility
and
the
options
but
I
don't
know
if
there's
something
about
light
industrial
that
I'm
missing
or
if
we
don't.
If
we
want
to
keep
that
option,
because
we
want
that
kind
of
business.
F
C
Other
thing,
I
would
say
is
that,
generally
speaking
and
in
the
past,
the
city
has
wanted
to
protect
its
slight
industrial
zones
because
they
wanted
to
have
that
option
for
job
creation
sites
as
opposed
to
housing
sites,
and
they
tend
to
be
more
scattered
so,
but
an
overlay
Zone
can
either
apply
to
all
districts
in
the
city
or
it
can
apply
to
certain
districts
in
the
city.
It's
that's
the
thing
about
an
overlays
on
you.
Don't
have
to
abide
by
any
particular
District.
B
There's
a
fair
bit
along
the
creek
which
isn't
very
useful
and
then
along
52,
but
again
there's
that
trade-off
of.
If
you
want
commercial
along
52,
then
you
want
to
be
able
to
zone
for
it.
B
D
B
C
I,
don't
know
if
you
would
want
to
keep
put
the
cape
Camp
Beacon
I
mean
that's
been
hanging
out
there
for
a
long
time.
I
think
that
the
original
RFP
for
excluded
residential
uses
that
you,
the
city,
wanted
and
the
same,
wanted
more
commercial
use
of
that
property,
and
it
is
very
isolated.
C
So
that's
a
a
parcel
that
is
sort
of
on
the
table.
Now
that
could
be
folded
into
this
or
could
not.
B
F
Other
opinions
there
was
a
conversation
a
couple
months
ago
about
inclusionary
zoning
and
I,
don't
see
it
on
the
list
and
I
didn't
know
because
I
missed
the
last
Workshop
whether
this
was
an
addendum
to
an
existing
list.
Or
is
this
our
exhaustive
list
of
options
that.
C
This
is
not
exhaustive,
it
was
the
priorities.
I
was
asked
to
put
together
a
short
zoning
list
with
priorities.
I
was
here
with
me.
The
city
worked
on
the
last
revisions
from
the
for
the
inclusionary
housing,
and
you
know
I
think
it's
been
working
relatively
well,
so
I
didn't
think
it
needed
fixing.
F
Well,
I
think
we
had
the
discussion
that
we
had
was
that
the
inclusionary
zoning
could
be
increased,
but
we
didn't
want
to
do
it
too
much
as
to
affect
the
financing
of
the
projects,
but
not
that
10
percent
at
at.
Is
it
70
Ami
yeah,
that
that
is
not
necessarily
our
ceiling
and
isn't
naturally,
in
some
kind
of
final
state,
that
there
is
room
for
increasing
that
number.
C
Well,
I'm
in
a
certainly
you
have
the
ability
to
do
so.
I
you
know.
I
would
suggest
that
that
going
beyond
the
ten
percent,
you
very
well
might
start
losing
housing
in
general
and
in
fact,
I
think
you
could
make
the
case
based
on
number
that
it
may
have
already
affected
the
housing
Supply
in
the
in
the
city.
C
I
I
think
I
mentioned
at
the
last
Workshop.
That
I
did
a
spreadsheet
of
all
the
housing
projects
in
the
city
over
the
last
10
years
or
so,
and
when
the
revisions
for
the
code
were
made
and
up
the
two
or
lowered
it
down
to
10
units
threshold
and
and
put
in
the
other
Provisions
back
in
2017
I
took
the
five
years
before
2017
and
the
five
years
after
2017
and
looked
at
how
housing
production
in
general
had
gone
and
the
numbers
are
pretty.
You
know
you
can't
blame
it
all.
C
Maybe
it
was
something
completely
different
than
the
affordable
housing
Provisions,
but
from
The
Years
Five
Years
2013.
Until
including
2007
17.,
there
were
700
units
proposed
140
a
year
and
then
the
next
five
years
2018
to
22.
There
was
only
264
units
averaging
53
a
year,
so
you've
decreased
the
whole
housing
production
by
something
like
60
percent.
C
Now
there
might
be
a
thousand
reasons
why
that
happened,
but
it
is
I
think
a
little
thought-provoking
and
it.
On
the
other
hand,
commercial
went
from
31
000
in
those
first
five
years
up
until
until
2017
up
to
111
000.
So
it's
three
and
a
half
times
higher
commercial
square
footage
during
that
period.
So
it
seems
to
me
for
some
reason:
2017
seemed
to
be
the
hinge
in
which
housing
production
slowed
down
dramatically
and
commercial
production
sped
up
dramatically
and
and
I.
Think
you
would.
C
You
have
to
be
careful
about
pushing
the
limits
of
the
inclusionary
zoning
too
far,
you're
essentially
asking
a
private
developer
to
subsidize,
affordable
housing
on
their
own
dime,
without
any
advantages
for
them
other
than
they
can
get
their
housing
project
approved
right.
C
Requirement,
and
so
if
you
up
it
too
much,
you
can
stifle
housing
and
there's
there
have
been
case
studies
of
others,
other
cities
that
have
upped
their
percentages
and
seen
a
major
drop
off
in
in
housing
production.
Generally
speaking
so
yeah.
B
I
debrief
with
Doug
Olcott
from
CPC
after
he
came
here
and
the
part
that
I
took
away
as
I
understood
it
was.
We
have
to
talk
about
three
pieces
of
the
puzzle:
it's
not
just
the
10
and
the
70
Ami
the
Ami,
because
once
you
pick
a
lower
Ami,
it
basically
says
the
rent
that
you
can
get
goes
down
right,
so
the
lower
the
Emi,
the
more
difficult
it
is
to
make
something
work
because
the
rent
goes
down.
B
The
10,
obviously,
is
that
number
goes
up
the
more
difficult
it
is
to
make
a
project
work
and
the
more
easy
it
is
to
be
viewed
as
a
taking
now.
The
third
piece
of
the
puzzle,
I'm
talking
to
Doug
is
yes,
but
are
you
offering
any
benefits,
and
so,
as
far
as
he
could
tell,
we
were
one
of
the
only
or
one
of
the
very
few
communities
that
offered
10
require
10
inclusion,
affordable
at
70
Ami
with
no
offsetting
benefits,
most
programs.
B
He
said
at
the
10
and
70
level
offered
either
tax
abatements
or
assessment
offsets,
and
we
do
neither.
So,
if
we're
going
to
talk
about
it,
we
have
to
have
all
three
and
the
impression
that
I
got
talking
to
Doug
is.
If
you
wanted
to
go
anywhere
north
of
this
number,
you
had
to
start
putting
in
benefits.
B
A
D
G
Have
the
power
to
give
to
to
do
more
I
think
that
would
be
a
very
interesting
thing
to.
K
Explain
yeah
my
take
away
from
that
conversation
was
that
that
was
the
direction
the
conversation
was
going.
I
thought
we
were
going
to
have
more
information
to
understand
what
we
would
be
able
to
leverage
if
we
did
start
working
with
that
benefits.
Piece
of
the
pie.
I'm
not
opposed
to
I
yeah
I
wouldn't
want
to
go
down
that
route
unless
we
knew
or
had
some
amount
of
confidence
of
what
we
would
get
in
return.
C
Now
the
the
other
thing
you
should
remember
is
that
when
the
revisions
were
done
back
in
2017,
it
was,
there
was
a
very
torturous
approval
process,
with
a
lot
of
numbers
thrown
around
percentages
and
and
the
city
consulted
with
Hudson
River
housing
about
the
right
level
of
Ami
versus
you
know,
and
the
right
numbers-
and
this
was
something
I
think
they
felt
comfortable
with.
As
being
you
know,
the
right
balance
so
before
I
would
take
it
with
those
numbers
anymore.
G
And
maybe
even
wide
and
advisation
for
all
of
that
kind
of
housing
or
a
few
different
larger
groups,
not
that
asking
Hudson
River
housing
I
mean
that
that's
a
great
idea
but
I'm
not
sure
how
their
perspective
might
differ
from
other
from
other
developers
similar
to
to
them.
C
If
people
are
familiar
with
the
book,
the
affordable,
City,
Shane
Phillips-
this
was
highly
recommended
by
and
Sandler
the
County
Housing
director
at
the
time,
and
this
person
goes
through
every
strategy
for
affordable
housing
and
how
to
balance
things
out
and
make
things.
Work
and
I
went
back
and
looked
at
it
again
on
the
advice
on
inclusionary
zoning
and
his
advice
is
to
primarily
rely
on
voluntary
density
density.
C
And
then
he
says,
as
a
backup,
also
enact
a
low
inclusionary
zoning
requirement
around
five
to
ten
percent
of
the
units
reserved
for
low-income
households
to
prevent
any
mixed,
non-mixed
income
projects
from
slipping
through
the
cracks.
C
So
if
you're
looking
for
sort
of
a
big
picture
advice
that
was
the
best
I
could
find
and
you're
in
that
range
without
doing
density
bonuses
or
hype
bonuses,
it's
very
hard
to
give
incentives
other
than
abatements
the
tax
abatements.
That
would
work
and
then
I.
Think
in
my
experience
in
the
city
is
that
hype
bonuses
would
be
very
controversial
or
even
density
bonuses,
not.
G
To
go
backward,
but
it
would
be
interesting
to
hear
what
Hudson
River
housing
would
have
to
say
about
the
senior
overlay
district
and
the
the
Ami
and
the
age
requirements
and
everything
that
we've
listed
there.
C
G
E
C
G
C
C
It's
a
you,
get
a
half
an
extra
unit
for
every
one
unit,
affordable
housing
that
you
provide,
but
since
there's
no
overall
density
limits
other
than
the
building
envelope
and
the
form-based
codes
of
the
linkage
district
and
the
and
the
Waterfront
development
district
and
the
Central
Main
Street
District
in
the
years
since
2017,
there's
only
been
two
density
bonus
units
created
in
the
city
and
those
were
in
River
Ridge,
which
is
outside
of
those
three
districts.
B
Yeah
John
I
remember:
you
said
that
in
a
conversation
we
had,
which
was
interesting
because
I
think
when
we
came
up
with
this
District,
we
we
tended
to
have
numerical
density
limits
in
our
zones
and
now
that
we've
gone
to
form
based
that's
gone
away.
So
one
of
the
questions
would
be
okay.
If
we're
trying
to
create
incentive
to
get
this
done,
and
it's
not
a
bonus
Arrangement,
because
that's
not
the
way
our
zoning
is
in
a
number
of
the
new
zones.
C
Yes,
some
things
that
have
been
proposed
that
I
could
pass
along
is
discounted
application
fees,
lower
Recreation
fees,
bonus
height
allowances
and
Kingston
is
redoing
their
zoning
law
from
top
to
bottom,
and
they
have
proposed
an
expedited
review
under
a
timetable
set
by
the
director
of
housing
initiatives.
So
they
have
somebody
on
staff.
C
Who's
who's
purpose
is
to
promote
housing
and
they
meet
with
the
developer
early
on
in
the
process
set
up
a
timetable,
and
then
the
the
planning
board
is
supposed
to
be
able
to
keep
up
with
that
timetable,
so
it
streamlines
the
process.
C
So
there
are
some
procedural
and
fee
based
sorts
of
things,
but
you
know
the
tax
abatement
I
think
would
probably
be
the
strongest
one
if
you're
not
going
to
do
density
or
height
limits.
F
Hey
John
I'm
thinking
about
this
now
from
coming
from
the
other
direction.
What
if,
when
a
developer,
came
to
the
city
council
because
they
needed
something,
we
made
a
requirement
of
affordable
housing
so,
instead
of
like
making
up
something
that
we
give
them,
we
know
that
we
need
to
give
some
projects
require
a
special
use
permit.
F
So,
for
example,
on
Main
Street,
one
of
one
of
the
first
things
that
I
was
a
part
of
on
city
council
was
a
conversation
about
the
fourth
floor
is
that
they
were
no
longer
going
to
be
as
of
right,
and
if
you
wanted
a
fourth
floor,
that
you
had
to
provide
a
public
benefit,
one
of
those
public
benefits
was
affordable
housing.
So
perhaps
what
we
could
be
doing,
just
a
thought
is
special
use
permits,
for
example,
the
one
that
Edgewater
received.
F
We
could
make
a
requirement
with
a
higher,
affordable
housing
mix
if
they
want
to
get
a
special
use.
Permit
now
I'm
not
saying
that
specific
special
use
permit
but
I
don't
know
all
of
the
different
special
use
permits
that
that
the
council
is
available
has
right
to
give
out.
But
maybe
we
could
incorporate
a
requirement
for
affordable
housing
in
some
of
those
special
use
permits.
C
C
The
two
major
projects
that
I
can
think
of
that
have
happened
since
then.
They
just
gave
up
on
the
fourth
story,
even
though
they
originally
proposed
it
and
just
went
to
a
three-story
because
they
didn't
want
to
go
through
that
process.
B
Right
and
I
I
think
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
we're
we're
trying
to
get
housing
that
still
costs
the
same
amount
and
doesn't
charge
as
much
rent,
which
means
you're
affecting
negatively
the
Builder's
economics.
To
then
say,
I'm
going
to
impose
an
additional
requirement
on
you
is
sort
of
what
John
said
is
you're
going
the
wrong
direction
right.
B
C
Issue
you
can
you
know
one
of
my
suggestions
was
to
eliminate
the
required
parking
for
designated
affordable
units,
so
every
parking
spot
is
precious
in
a
place
like
the
Central,
Main,
Street,
District,
and
so
allowing
no
parking
for
affordable
housing
or
reduced
parking
for
our
provision
of
affordable
housing
can
help
in
marginal
cases.
F
I
mean:
would
you
what
you
described
earlier
John
about
the
the
fourth
floors
on
Main
Street
sounded
to
me,
like
you
were,
describing
that
the
law
was
working
in
that
you
know
we
we
said
that
you
can
only
have
a
four.
The
only
way
we
could
tolerate
a
fourth
floor
on
Main
Street
was
that
if
it
was
giving
something
back
to
the
public,
and
some
people
chose
not
to
give
something
back
to
the
public,
and
so
they.
C
The
way
they
explained
it
to
me
is
they
didn't
want
to
go
through
the
process.
Okay,.
C
Just
remember:
416
420,
Main
Street
took
a
long
time.
There
was
a
lot
of
negotiation
back
and
forth,
and
so
when
the
Citizens
Bank
project
came
in,
you
know
fairly
close
to
there.
They
came
in
with
a
four-story
and
as
soon
as
they
started
getting
pushed
back
and
explained
the
process.
They
said.
Okay,
forget
it
we're
just
going
to
go
to
a
three-story,
because
we
want
to
get
this
thing
done.
C
B
B
We
get
a
four
story
with
a
public
benefit,
we'll
allow
some
as
a
way
of
limiting
right
right
here,
we're
doing
trying
to
do
something,
the
opposite,
we're
not
trying
to
say
oh
we'll,
either
take
or
leave
affordable
units
for
seniors.
We
actually
want
them,
so
we're
going
to
have
to
provide
that
benefit
and
not
kind
of
say.
Well,
you
know
build
it
this
way
or
we
don't
bother
I
think
we
don't
serve
our
goal
when
we
say
don't
bother,
because
we
want
the
units,
the
third
and
the
fourth
floors.
B
F
I
mean
on
my
list
of
priorities:
affordable
housing
is
the
highest
priority
for
what
to
do
with
a
lot,
but
my
luxury
housing
is
not
my
second
priority,
so
if
people
say
that
they're
going
to
take
their
time
building
because
we're
requiring
too
much
affordable
housing
I'll
wait
for
that
lot
to
change
hands
three
times
until
somebody
wants
to
do
it
and
we
can
and
the
the
animals
and
the
wildlife
can
enjoy
their
habitat.
Well,
it's
still.
There
I
mean
I,
don't
I.
B
B
The
kinds
of
market
rate
units
are
what
provide
us
the
tax
base
to
have
the
ability
to
ask
for
other
things,
and
so,
if
we
want
to
just
ignore
all
that
and
see
our
taxes
go
up
and
see
continued
reduced
housing
in
the
New
York
metro
area,
all
we
can
do
is
say
we
won't
bother
with
any
market
rate.
Housing
anymore.
I
just
think.
That's
fundamentally
incorrect.
C
The
person
who
wrote
the
affordable,
City
one
of
their
three
legs
was
housing
in
general.
Of
all
types
is
a
good
thing,
because
the
more
housing
you
create,
the
more
housing
filters
down
to
lower
income
people
and
there's
been
studies
that
back
that
up
that,
if
you
create
luxury
housing
in
the
city,
it
actually
opens
up
affordable
housing
at
lower
levels,
not
on
a
one-to-one
basis,
but
on
a
pretty
significant
basis.
C
So
I
know
that's
not
your
top
priority
to
create
affordable
housing
or
high-priced
housing,
but
high
price
housing
and,
in
addition
to
affordable
housing
under
the
inclusion
area.
You
get
some
out
of
it
anyway.
If
you
look
at
that
list
that
I
put
together
since
2012
20
of
the
overall
housing
has
been
designated
affordable
units,
so
even
if
you're
only
requiring
10
percent
you're
getting
more
because
you're
doing
some
subsidized
housing
at
the
same
time.
C
So
those
many
of
those
units
wouldn't
be
there
if
the
numbers
weren't
right
for
creating
higher
priced
housing,
along
with
the
affordable
units,
create
as
many
how
in
this
environment,
you
want
to
create
a
significant
number
of
housing
at
all
income
levels.
And
the
question
is:
how
do
you
avoid
just
doing
one
as
opposed
to
the
other,
but
you
don't
want
to
stop
luxury
housing,
because
that
also
feeds
into
the
market
and
overall
will
stabilize
prices
or
even
bring
it
down
if
the,
if
the
numbers
are
sufficient.
H
I
hear
that,
but
also
I
think
it's
important
to
recognize
that
Beacon
is
really
small
and
we
do
have
a
limited
capacity
as
to
what
we
can
continue
to
build
in
so
I
think
we
just
I
recognize
what
you're
saying,
but
I
think
we
also
need
to
figure
out
how
to
make
sure
that
we're
prioritizing
or
if
we're
continuing
to
luxury
development
continue.
We
need
to
make
sure
that
in
doing
so
we're
intentional
about
adding
affordable
housing
as
well.
B
G
G
I
I
also
think
it.
You
know
very
interesting
thing
about
that.
Study
is
kind
of
to
your
point.
John
is
that,
yes,
to
some
extent,
you
know
creating
more
housing
for
anyone
kind
of
releases,
the
pressures
of
competition
on
the
market
for
the
same
in
that
middle
ground,
because
people
are
coming
with
a
million
dollars
burning
in
their
pocket
and
buying
a
300,
000
house.
Yes,
that
happens,
but
the
the
study
was
mindful
of
the
of
the
most
pressing
need
and
the
study
didn't.
G
You
know
the
oversaturation,
the
lack
of
housing
availability,
they
they
were
making
recommendations
to
serve
the
greatest
need
and
I
I
hear
all
the
viewpoints
and,
to
some
extent
that's
what
we're
going
to
do
here
is
we're
going
to
figure
all
that
out,
but
I
think
that
capturing
that
will
and
that
heart
that
we
have
in
our
city
to
serve
the
greatest
need
is
something
we
have
the
ability
to
do
now
and
it's
kind
of
I
love.
This
discussion,
I
can't
wait
till
we
get
to
the
part
about
the
counting
lot.
B
B
J
That
yeah
I
think
I
mean
it
already
I
believe
at
least
the
end
I.
Think
of
the
MTA
lot
as
well
is
the
county
lot
like.
We
have
other
partners
who
expressed
interest
in
developing
on
on
parts
of
lands
that
could
have
room
for
housing
and
at
least
a
portion
of
that
be
affordable
in
other
kinds
and
so
I
think
finding
out
what
they're
I
think
exploring
what
we
want
as
much
publicly
or
executive
session.
As
you
know,
whatever
our
our
best
paths
are
but
I
think
that
would
be
good
to
bring
I
think
they're.
J
Also,
it's
also
in
line
with
the
executive
with
sorry
the
comprehensive
plan
as
well,
which
I,
which
I
appreciate
that
I,
like
the
idea
of
an
overlay
and
also
the
overlay,
is
we'll
put
it
out
there
and
we'll
see
who
bites.
Whereas
with
the
county
and
the
MTA
lot,
there
might
be
some
interested
parties
who
are
able
to
at
least
put
a
plan
together,
even
if
it
then
takes
the
time
to
go
through
the
process
for
those
places.
So
Lee.
A
Could
I
suggest
we
just
on
a
very
high
level,
hit
that
so
I
I
would
feel
comfortable,
saying
that
Lee
and
I
spoke
to
the
executive,
the
county
executive?
They
had
been
approached
by
a
developer
about
their
lot.
We
sent
them
John's
proposal
from
our
dri
Grant
and
from
the
Main
Street
access
and
asked.
Are
you
interested
and
they
said
well
think
about
it?
C
The
good
thing
about
the
the
properties
is
because
they're
in
public
control,
they
could
write
their
own
zoning
in.
In
essence.
They
you
could.
You
could
have
a
higher
percentage
of
affordable
units
there,
because
you
might
be
able
to
tap
into
the
Dutchess
County
Housing
Trust
Fund
or
the
state
money
that's
being
promised.
C
So
you
can
get
a
lot
more
bang
for
your
buck
and
you
would
be
in
complete
control.
You
would
find
a
developer
rather
than
developer.
Looking
to
find
you.
B
Right
on
that,
that
pool
of
funds
is
also
a
possibility
for
Metro
North
right,
because
the
state
wants
to
provide
incentives
for
Transit
oriented
development.
So,
depending
on
what
happens
with
the
budget
right,
there
might
be
another
Pool
there
and
an
interested
you
know
owner.
But
again
you
know
neither
the
County
Center
nor
the
Metro
North
Lots,
you
know,
are
owned
by
us,
but
we
think
they're
very
interesting
right.
F
L
With
respect
to
the
MTA,
there
is
some
language
in
State
Statute.
That
would
lead
one
to
think
they
have
that
Authority,
it's
not
being
tested
or
tried
and
there's
some
debate
as
to
how
applicable
it
is
I'm,
not
going
to
say
more
on
it,
because
our
position
is,
it
would
be
subject
to
zoning
as
far
as
the
county.
If
they're
developing
it
themselves
for
County
purposes,
then
it
would
not
be.
But
if
it's
being
used
and
developed
by
a
private
property
owner
a
private
party,
then
it
would
be
subject
to
zoning.
J
J
You
know
the
the
reputation
that
Beacon
has
earned
over
the
years
and
then
developed
that,
but
it's
still
affordable,
that
that
could
be
a
real
win
for
them
as
well,
so
I
think
they're
if
they're
game
for
it,
but
again,
I,
don't
know
a
lot
about
what
they're
thinking
or
this
developer.
That's
approached
them
so
it'll
be
interesting.
Just
to
see
what
might
come
of
that.
So.
A
J
B
I
will
ask
one
question
of
council,
which
is
well.
If
we
thought
say,
one
of
these
sites
was
important
pick
the
county
one
would
be
be
willing
to
do
a
piece
of
the
puzzle.
So,
for
instance,
let's
say
the
back
lot,
which
is
parking.
What
if
we
were
to
take
on
sort
of
some
some
piece
of
the
parking
as
a
way
to
encourage
it
along
with
their
and
that's
just
purely
conceptual
I'm,
not
saying
we're
deciding
yes
or
no,
but
are
we
you
know?
Would
we
be
interested
in
doing
something
like
that?
B
Well,
so
you
know:
there's
the
county
building,
then
there's
the
piece
of
the
parking
lot
that
fronts
Main
Street-
and
you
know
in
the
conceptual
that
you
know,
John
Clark
did
for
our
comp
plan
and
our
Main
Street
access
there.
A
portion
of
that
would
be
a
public,
you
know
mini
Park
and
then
a
portion
would
be
housing.
Then
in
the
back,
half
the
half
that
is
alongside
dewint
and
South
Elm
would
still
be
parking.
B
You
know,
John
had
a
plan
in
there
that
had
a
second.
You
know,
layer
level
that
you
could
enter
from
the
uphill
side
of
to
win.
B
If,
if
we
said
well,
maybe
we
would
somehow
help
develop
with
the
parking
as
a
way
of
making
the
project
work
and
again
I,
don't
know
but
I'm
just
trying
to
find
ways
where
the
city
can
encourage
the
county
because
they
have
priorities,
they
have
a
lot
on
their
plate.
Is
there
something
that
gets
their
attention
right
as
a
partner
and.
B
You
will
yeah,
would
it
be
helpful
John,
do
you
have
that.
B
F
B
C
C
C
Perhaps
perhaps
the
city,
the
county,
and
perhaps
whatever
state
funding
might
be
available,
work
together
on
the
RF
P
or
the
request
for
expression
of
Interest
and
set
out
the
parameters
of
what
you
want
and
and
the
city
was
fully
involved
in
that,
then
any
zoning
review
process
could
be
expedited
because
you
would.
The
city
won't
have
already
agreed
to
the
basics
of
the
the
parameters
of
the
project.
C
And
I
showed
two
options
for
the
back
portion
of
the
lot
through
the
Central
Main
Street,
the
main
the
Main
Street
access
committee.
One
was
to
increase
the
surface
spaces
on
the
back
of
the
Lots
right
now,
there's
92
spaces
on
the
entire
lot,
and
just
by
reconfiguring
the
the
asphalt
in
the
back
and
maybe
building
a
slight
retaining
wall,
you
can
fit
114
spaces
back
there,
so
you
can
increase
the
there.
A
C
C
Surface
lot
option
and
then
the
mainstream
access
committee
looked
at
sort
of
longer
term
if
they
get
overwhelmed
with
parking
in
five
years
or
ten
years
from
now,
you
can
put
a
two
level
deck
on
that
or
a
two-story
deck.
If
you
wanted
to-
and
you
could
put
up
by
this
I
remember,
the
number
was
290
spaces.
You
could
fit
on
that
with
a
two-story
building
and
it's
set
up
so
that
you
would.
The
ramps
would
be
minimized,
so
it'd
be
an
efficient
way
of
building
parking
on
the
on
the
West
End.
C
Although
Dan
is
right,
when
we
we
did
the
survey
of
that
lot,
it
was
on
a
peak
Saturday
during
full
Leaf.
You
know
Autumn
October
weekend.
That
lot
was
50
empty,
so
it
the
demand.
Isn't
there
I,
don't
think
for
a
parking
structure
at
this
point,
but
certainly
redoing
the
lot
so
that
you
could
handle
any
parking
demand
in
that
area
and
still
build
on
the
front
front,
two
thirds
of
it
or
one?
C
Third
of
it,
you
get
a
green
space,
a
building
with
maybe
a
higher
level
affordable
units
in
it
than
the
10
percent
and
designed
so
that
it
facilitates
the
farmer's
market.
You
could
get
a
lot
of
wins
out
of
this
parcel.
F
By
the
way,
John
I
wasn't
here
a
couple
weeks
ago
and
I
just
want
to
compliment
that
drawing
I
love.
The
idea
and
I
think
that
Park,
if
it
was
big
enough,
would
make
a
great
Town
Square.
C
C
You
know
active
all
day
and
into
the
evening
you
could
project
movies
up
on
the
sidewall
of
the
DMV
building.
You
can
do
a
lot
of
things
in
that
space.
B
Other
comments
on
these.
J
B
So
we
we
sent
them
some
conceptuals
and
I
asked
John
Clark
to
reach
out
to
the
you
know.
John
was
work
with
Dutchess
County
planning
for
many
years,
and
so
I
just
asked
him
reach
out
to
the
head
of
planning.
Who
was
on
our
call
just
to
kind
of
see
what
you
know
might
be
a
next.
B
B
Yeah
right,
no,
that's
another
one.
Maybe
we
don't
take
the
back
lot,
maybe
we
would
say
well
we'll
we'll
configure
the
park
for
you
right
and
again.
I
I,
like
John's
Lydia,
better,
which
is
just
to
you,
know,
work
with
them
and
make
it
really
easy
and
fast
and
quick
right.
That's
that's
a
real
benefit.
Actually
so,
but
you
know,
I
did
ask
John
to
reach
out
I
I.
You
know,
I
think
the
council's
you
know
very
interested,
so
I
would
encourage
you
to
do
so,
and
you
know
use
all
your
leverage.
A
J
I'll
I'll
just
say
for
my
two
pieces,
my
two
cents
when
it
you
know
I,
was
so
similar
thoughts
about
the
MTA
lot,
that
I've
been
sort
of
open
to
discussion
and
figuring
out,
particularly
if
we
can
talk
to
them
about
specific
affordability
and
and
what
they'd
be
open
to
and
what
would
work
some
of
the
other
things
when
it
comes
to
looking
at
expanding
two
families
in
other
in
into
residential
districts
and
sometimes
the
parking
stuff
I'm,
maybe
the
parking
less,
but
certainly
the
expansion
of
two
families.
J
It's
something
where
I
start
to
have
questions
about
what
would
be
better
to
be
left
for
a
more
comprehensive,
comprehensive
plan,
discussion
to
actually
talk
about
what
we
want,
what
is
vegan
open
to
what
to
Beacon
residents
want,
and
so
that's
kind
of
some
of
the
questions
that
came
up
to
me
might
look
for
the
other
suggestions.
It's
less
about.
We
shouldn't
be
headed
there,
it's
more.
J
What
is
something
we
feel
confident
we
can
talk
about
here
and
have
a
traditional
public
hearing
for
versus
what
a
comprehensive
plan
is,
which
is
more
of
a
discussion
and
more
levels
of
involvement
and
is
set
up
to
be
that
way.
So
I
kind
of
questions
around
that,
but
I
don't
have
to
get
into
it
tonight.
I
just
wanted
to
state
that.
F
If
our
agenda
is
long,
I
could
suggest
so
the
in
the
last
Workshop.
There
was
some
discussion
about
this.
This
may
date
coming
up
fast,
so
that
so
this
year
wouldn't
be
the
right
Year
to
you
know.
We
want
to
do
the
leaf
blower
regulations
beginning
next
year,
which
would
make
this
less
timely
than
some
of
the
other
items.
So
if
push
comes
to
show
if
we
could
potentially
push
the
leaf
blower
regulations
back
a
workshop.
J
B
So
let
me
make
a
suggestion,
which
is
why
don't
we
stop
here
in
affordable?
There
were
a
couple
of
to-do's
I.
Think
John
had
some
to-do's
on
the
first
one,
and
then
you
know
we
had
maybe
some
Outreach
to
do
on
the
county
on
the
Metro
north
got
through
the
rest
of
our
agenda.
If
we
have
time
we
can
come
back
this
evening
and
if
not,
you
know
we'll
pick
it
up
again
right
because
we're
going
to
cover
this
a
bunch
of
times
right.
B
So
we
don't
have
to
conquer
the
world
in
the
first
time.
Is
that
all
right.
B
F
J
One
other
idea,
I
just
wanted
to
say
publicly
and
put
it
out
there
for
the
whole
council
is
we
have
a
community
quarterly,
coming
up,
I,
think
in
August,
which
doesn't
have
an
agenda
item,
and
possibly
some
of
these
housing
items
might
be
good
to
have
like
hey.
We
put
these
out.
What
ideas
do
you
have?
Some
of
them
might
not
be
a
good
fit
for
it.
You
know
or
others.
You
know,
I'm
not
saying
everything,
but
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
publicly.
J
K
Yeah,
thank
you
for
bringing
that
up
and-
and
you
had
also
shared
a
couple
of
models,
so
there
is
some
structure
to
that
conversation
because
we
don't
want
it
to
be
entirely
open-ended,
but
I
have
heard
from
we'll
get
to
it.
Maybe
when
we
have
the
actual
item
on
the
agenda,
but
thank
you
for
flagging
it
here.
D
B
D
A
That
we
I'm
I'm
just
joking.
We
are
really
delighted
to
recommend
to
a
promotion
of
Brian
tutora
from
his
current
position
as
wastewater
treatment,
plant
maintenance,
mechanic
helper
to
a
maintenance
mechanic,
and
you
may
remember
not
too
long
ago,
one
of
our
Wastewater
mechanics
moved
over
to
the
water
department,
opening
up
a
position
Brian's
been
with
the
plant
since
2017
his
supervisor
just
thinks
it's
a
great
fit
for
him.
He
brings
a
great
work
ethic.
A
A
lot
of
construction
background,
he's
very
dependable
and
just
has
a
great
attitude,
and
we
interviewed
him
last
week
and
we
would
like
to
recommend
him
for
promotion
next
week
and
he
would
start
that
almost
immediately
after
the
vote-
and
he
is
here
so
Brian
just
give
a
wave
Brian-
also
has
volunteered
for
this
community
for
a
long
time.
He
he
went
to
Beacon
high
school.
He
was
a
volunteer
firefighter
for
11
years.
He
worked
for,
he
was
a
volunteer
with
bevac.
A
So
you
know
this
is
a
good
story
for
us
to
continue
to
move
somebody
through
our
you
know
our
promotional
system,
who's
who's,
already
invested
a
lot
in
the
city.
B
I
Yes
mayor,
we
are
continuing
the
process
of
filling
out
the
recreation
Committee
in
its
new
form.
We've
had
a
number
of
applicants
and
we're
bringing
three
more
to
you
tonight.
You've
previously
voted
three
in
these
three
all
have
some
great
volunteer
experience
in
various
athletic
types
of
athletic
events.
Christina
has
some
experience
with
vegan
Hoops
Justin
Lynch
has
experience
with
the
beacon
soccer
club
in
various
capacities,
and
Sarah
has
a
number
of
different
coaching
volunteering
and
coaching
and
volunteering
experiences,
as
well
as
promoting
women's
involvements
in
sports
and
coaching.
J
I'll,
just
add
I,
don't
know
any
of
these
people
directly,
but
taking
a
look
at
their
resumes,
I
love
that
Christina
has
clinical
experience
too.
What
I
think
about
as
we've
sort
of
talked
about,
knowing
that
already
sort
of
the
rec
partment
de
facto
answers
lots
of
question
outside
of
direct
Recreation
to
do
with
other
services
in
the
community,
so
knowing
that
she's
already
plugged
into
that
I
think
would
be
a
great
addition
to
think
about.
J
F
Do
we
have
enough
people
on
this
on
this
committee
outside
of
just
you
know,
Sports,
because
we
are
talking
about.
One
of
our
greatest
needs
is:
is
more
senior
programming
and
programming
for
people?
In
my
demographic,
the
the
younger
old
people,
so
I
just
don't
want
to
Stack
it
too
much
with
you
know,
people
who
are
doing
kids
sports.
I
Yeah
I
I,
don't
have
all
the
resumes
of
the
past
three
brought
on
as
well
in
front
of
me.
I
do
know
that
they
bring
a
variety
of
different
experiences,
but
you
can
certainly
look
at
all
of
them
together
to
see
you're
missing
anything.
J
I
Code
is
for
up
to
seven
I
believe
we
have
six
here.
I
do
know
that
there's
another
candidate
rather
there's
another
number
of
other
applications
and
I
believe
there's
one
other
candidate.
That
is
the
most
likely
choice
for
the
next
one.
Although
we're
waiting
on
some
materials
for
that
person
still.
K
I
picked
up
on
the
same
thing
that
Molly
did
I,
appreciated,
Christina's
experience
in
nursing
and,
while
I
don't
think
I
have
any
questions
about
these
people.
In
particular,
I
do
have
a
question
about
where
the
conversation
that
we've
been
having
about
our
community
center
being
more
than
Recreation.
A
The
Mark
is
hoping
to
constitute
the
rec
committee
to
work
on
the
applications
that
you
got
back
for
the
community
investment
program,
so
that
would
be
the
first
thing
that
they
do
and
then
I
guess
he's
going
to
see
where
we
go,
then
he's
going
to
be
in
a
summer
season
and
just
kind
of
overwhelm
with
camp
and
pool,
and
so
maybe
in
the
fall.
We
can
pick
up
and
figure
out
where
that
goes.
B
Yeah
I
for
one
obviously
I
look
forward
to
that,
but
I
I'd
be
happy
just
to
get
it
started
up
again,
so
it
was
pretty
quiet
for
a
while.
So
at
least
Staffing
it
up,
we
can
get
them
started.
You
know,
I,
think
the
survey
asked
lots
of
a
real
breadth
of
questions
and
certainly
not
just
Recreation,
so
I
think
that
you
know
I
will
certainly
keep
telling
the
department
head
that
that's
where
we're
heading
and
I'll
be
looking
forward
to
that
too.
B
Okay,
do
we
want
to
pass
I,
want
to
skip
over
item
six
and
then
come
back
or
do
we
want
to
start
up
on
item
six
or
how
about
we
do
seven
to
ten
and
then,
if
there's
time
we
come
back?
Is
that
all
right
or
we
can
come
back
to
the
item?
One?
B
Sorry,
do
we
want
to.
K
Okay,
so
to
give
a
little
context-
I'm
sorry
I
didn't
get
this
little
memo
out
until
this
afternoon,
but
as
a
reminder
to
everybody,
the
community
quarterly
is
an
initiative
that
the
council
came
up
with
in
essence,
because
we
believe
our
government
is
made
stronger
through
an
Engaged
and
active
public.
While
there
are
already
many
ways
for
those
who
live
and
work
in
Beacon
to
provide
feedback
and
input
for
the
city
council,
we
believe
the
council
has
a
proactive
role
to
play
in
making
our
government
more
accessible
and
participatory.
K
So
to
that
end
we
have
come
up
with
a
series
of
General
topics
to
solicit
ideas
from
the
community
about
and
the
there's
a
three-part
process
of
initially
Gathering
those
ideas.
And
then
there
is
a
public
forum
that
is
fairly
informal,
but
to
Workshop
those
ideas.
And
then
there
is
a
community
vote
in
which
those
ideas
are
ranked
in
priority
by
the
public
and
the
results
of
this
last
cycle
on
climate
initiatives
are.
K
There
are
three
sort
of
top
ideas,
the
first
of
which,
which
was
very
much
the
top
rated
priority,
was
having
the
City
come
out
in
opposition
to
The
Dumping
of
radioactive
Wastewater
from
Indian
Point
into
the
Hudson
River.
This
was
the
resolution
that
the
city
actually
already
passed
last
week
so
check
in
terms
of
the
sort
of
parameters
of
the
idea
being
completed
in
the
city,
playing
our
official
role.
K
K
But
that
does
mean
that
we
only
have
two
ideas
and
that
are
sort
of
officially
moving
forward
in
the
process
of
having
a
council
member.
Take
on
the
stewardship
of
that
idea.
The
first
one,
which
was
ranked
quite
high,
is
committing
to
a
timeline
for
a
city-wide
bike
plan.
K
It
seems
to
be
a
strong
theme
and
priority
for
our
transportation
systems
to
be
improved,
not
to
say
that
they
don't
have
a
lot
to
say
for
themselves
as
they
are,
but
improvements
are
something
that
seem
to
be
a
priority
for
this
community.
So
first
is
the
bike
plan
and
thank
You
Ren
Longo
for
taking
on
the
stewardship
of
that
idea,
and
the
second
is
about
our
Free
Loop
shuttle,
bus
and
Justice
McRae
is
going
to
be
working
with
the
community
supporters
to
move
that
idea
forward.
K
H
Okay,
yeah
no
I've,
already
gotten
the
ball
rolling
on
this
a
bit
I've
reached
out
to
the
constituent
that
has
proposed
this
idea,
as
well
as
somebody
from
the
county
just
to
get
a
lay
of
the
land
of
sort
of
transportation
and
what
some
roadblocks
may
be
moving
forward
and
I
reached
out
to
the
person
as
well
that
put
out
the
survey
recently
for
the
beacon-free
Loop
that
was
advertised
in
the
paper
last
week
or
the
week
before,
and
so
conversations
are
beginning
and
I'm
ready
and
excited
to
move
forward
to
in
the
direction
of
Mobility
Justice
and
seeing
Transit
be
more
accessible
to
everyone
in
the
city
and
figuring
out
how
to
continue
to
navigate
the
best
ways
to
get
people
across
the
city
as
we
continue
to
expand
where
housing
is
and
where
people's
needs
are
yeah.
H
Oh,
that's
on
that
note.
I
also
just
had
a
question
in
general
and
I.
Don't
know
who
I'm
asking
this
to,
but
is
there
anything
more
that
we
specifically
as
a
council
not
like,
as
individuals
can
do
in
I
guess
to
show
our
opposition
for
The
Dumping
and
of
toxic
Wasted
by
whole?
Tech.
H
No,
not
as
individuals
as
a
council
got
it
yes,
I
know.
The
resolution
was
generally
the
the
move
that
we
as
a
council
would
do.
But
I
don't
know,
aside
from
that,
if
there's
anything
that
we
have
jurisdiction
to
do
so,
I
just
I
just
want
to
know
and
have
clarity.
L
L
A
So
you
you
got
your
point
across
and
I
I
think
he's
got
to
take
it
from
here.
The
NRC
is
when
I
worked
in
Congress,
the
NRC
is
very
hard
to
move
in.
You
know
again,
they
they've
been
dumping
tritium
for
years
and
this-
and
this
is
not
a
new
thing,
so
we've
we
fought
it
almost
20
years
ago
and
it
again
the
the
NRC
is
not
terribly
accountable.
K
H
H
Kit
that
you
have
great
that's
all
I
have
on
the
CQ.
K
So
I
just
wanted
to
I.
Don't
know
if
you
want
to
say
anything
about
the
buses.
K
G
But
committing
to
a
timeline
is
kind
of
a
more
concrete
ask.
So
it'll
be
interesting
to
see
what
we
can,
what
we
can
do
there
and
and
having
experience
you
know
a
good
friend
getting
run
over
by
a
car
on
Main
Street.
You
know
who
just
backed
over
her
on
her
bicycle
and
the
effect
that
that
had
on
her
health,
you
know
I
have
to
say
like
it
would
be
good
to
see
us.
K
Thanks
Ryan
I,
don't
want
to
take
up
too
much
more
time,
but
just
want
to
acknowledge
and
thank
all
of
the
people
who
had
ideas.
K
K
Two
is
coming
up
in
a
couple
well
in
a
month,
and
we
had
initially
talked
about
I,
believe
Waterway
protections
being
the
general
topic
and
I
just
wanted
to
take
temperature
of
the
council
here
and
make
sure
that
that
is
still
the
direction
or
the
focus
that
we
think
we
want
to
take
for
the
next
one
or
if
we
want
to
take
on
a
different
topic.
I,
don't
think
we're
beholden
and.
F
J
D
K
That
sounds
good
to
me.
I,
don't
think
we
need
to
yeah
come
up
with
that
exact
wording
right
now,
but
yeah
I
wanted
to
float
that
framework
thanks
I.
H
K
Yeah
with
Advanced
planning,
I
I
would
ideally
like
to
have
that
both
public
forums
be
a
little
more
accessible.
I
think
it's
very
helpful
to
have
a
workshop
setting
for
them
to
be
able
to
discuss
ideas.
It
can
be
a
little
nerve-wracking
to
present
an
idea,
but
hopefully
joining
remotely
will
be
an
option,
not
necessarily
for
you
dresses,
I,
don't
know
what
your
restriction
is,
but
for
the
public
to
think
about.
J
B
A
Well,
if
you
missed
my
presentation
on
April
3rd,
the
brief
one
at
the
very
brief
one
I
could
do
it
again
if
you
would
like,
but
maybe
I
I
won't
as
a
follow-up
to
that
presentation.
We
were
looking
for
next
steps
and
the
city
joined
the
opt-out.
Cdg
Coalition
the
community
generate
distributed
generation.
People
also
refer
to
it
as
Community,
solar
and
again.
A
A
And
so
this
resolution
asked
them
to
move
forward
with
the
approval
and
the
implementation
of
opt
out.
Cdg
I
think
there
are
good
reasons
why
they
delayed.
They
are
looking
at
a
greater
Statewide
model
that
would
essentially
be
an
opt-out
Statewide
for
low-income
households.
F
Chris,
the
memo
is
specifying
opt
out
CDG
all
throughout.
Yes,
is
that
big?
Is
that
the
only
CDG
option
or
like
have
they
already
reviewed
opt-in
and
now
we're
encouraging
the
review
opt
out?
That's.
A
So
some
members
of
the
council
I
have
it
in
my
home,
where
you
you
sign
up,
for
you,
basically
sign
up
to
get
a
subscription
to
a
solar
farm
and
the
the
power
that
they
generate
then
derives
back
a
credit
to
your
bill
covering
your
bill,
and
it
basically
makes
you
pay
ninety
percent
of
your
bills.
So
if
you
had
a
hundred
dollar
bill
in
in
last
month,
with
the
credits
you
end
up,
only
paying
ninety
dollars
is.
A
Is
next
camp?
This
is
power
Market.
This
is
green
power.
There
there
have
been
a
number
of
companies.
Now.
The
the
issue
with
the
opt-in
is
that
a
lot
of
people
don't
have
time
to
shop
this
and
figure
out
how
it
works
in
their
Central.
Hudson
bills
are
already
a
mess.
The
idea
of
the
opt
out
is
that
most
people-
people,
if
you,
if
you
design
it
well,
most
people,
won't
opt
out
and
you'll
get
a
return
rate
of
85
or
90,
as
opposed
to
five
to
ten
percent.
E
A
A
To
no
it's
a
postcard,
just
like
the
CCA
that
which
is
the
Community
Choice
aggregation.
Now,
interestingly,
we
do
this
on
a
number
of
our
electricity
accounts.
Already
for
the
city,
we
made
a
Dan.
K
You
yeah,
it
was
a
compliment.
K
We
I
think
I
asked
the
question
if
it
was
possible,
as
because
we've
talked
as
you
just
Illustrated.
There
are
quite
a
few
opt-in
options
if
it
would
make
any
sense
for
the
city
to,
in
the
meantime,
have
a
any
recommendations
or
help
give
people
guidance
about
the
opt-in
programs
or,
if
that's
maybe
silly,
and
it's
a
market.
No.
A
I
I
think
it's
worth
doing.
It's
just
a
time
constraint
right
now
to
arrange
it.
What
I
have
done
is
I've
tried
to
work
with
some
of
the
larger
housing
complexes,
because
sustainable
Westchester
now
is
trying
to
sign
up
people
with
a
solar
project
up
in
Ulster,
County
and
they're.
Working
with
the
the
advantage
of
working
with
low-income
complexes
is
they're,
often
on
one
or
one
or
a
few
Master
meters,
and
instead
of
metering
every
apartment.
They
have
one
meter,
so
we
put
them
in
touch
with
Beacon
Housing
Authority.
A
Interestingly,
they've
already
moved
to
use
next
camp
men
are
signing
an
agreement,
Tompkins
Terrace
is
talking
to
them
and
we've
also
referred
them
to
South
Davies
terrorists.
So
so
I
thought
those
are
kind
of
big
buckets
of
groups
and
and
as
we
have
time,
I'll,
let's
see
where
this
goes
this
year,
and
if
we
don't,
if
we
don't
get
the
opt
out,
then
we'll
try
to
Upper
game
on
opt-in.
H
A
B
Yeah,
so
the
only
thing
I'll
add
is
in
the
couple
of
weeks
since
the
explanation
I
got
my
my
next
amp
Bill
and
it
was
a
four
digit
number,
so
it
was
more
than
a
thousand,
which
was
a
reminder
that
I
guess
we're
not
through
all
our
billing
issues.
Yet
in
any
case,
that's
my
personal
one.
A
Yes
thanks,
so
we've
been
talking
about
this
for
a
while,
we
have
a
project
that
is
called
a
federal
aid
project
for
which
we
have
75
Federal
money
and
then
about
20
percent
state
or
80
Federal,
15
State,
it's
to
rebuild
all
of
teller,
Avenue
and
Fishkill
Avenue
that
went
out
to
bid
and
the
bids
were
received.
Last
week
we
received
four
bids
which
isn't
isn't
a
robust
response
on
this,
and
it
might
be
due
to
the
time
of
year.
A
A
Our
our
budgeted
amount
was
7.35
million,
so
we
have
significantly
by
70
percent
exceeded
the
available
budget,
and
our
our
engineering
consultant
and
I
agree
that
we're
going
to
recommend
that
we
throw
out
these
bids
and
then
work
to
re
rescope
the
project
so
that
we
can
get
it
closer
to
that
amount.
A
So
that
process
would
be
you
passing
a
resolution
next
week,
then,
because
the
fiscal
sponsor
New,
York,
State
Department
of
Transportation
would
have
to
concur
that
that's
valid,
which
I
assume
they
will
we've
already
talked
to
them,
and
then
we
would
go
back
with
changes
to
the
project
that
would
need
to
be
approved.
So
in
all
likelihood
this
slows
this
down
quite
a
bit
and
we're
going
to
try
to
right
size
the
project
for
the
available
budget.
A
We
also
the
council
had
asked
we
we
had
suggested
maybe
truncating
the
project
at
Memorial
Park
and
then
the
council
had
asked,
if
perhaps
we
could
get
out
to
Hedgewood.
We
will
look
at
that,
but
the
other
alternative
on
that
is.
It
is
in
the
catchment
area
for
cdbg
Grants.
So
if
I
can't
get
from
Memorial
Park
any
further
west,
any
further
east
or
or
towards
Fishkill,
that's
another
Avenue
for
funding.
A
continuation
and
the
side
works
on
the
next
block.
Aren't
too
bad?
It's
it's
really.
B
You
know,
I
took
I,
took
a
look,
and
it
struck
me
that
the
existing
sidewalk,
all
the
way
to
Conklin,
was
in
the
kind
of
okay
ballpark.
B
It
didn't
look
like
you
know
when
you
compare
that
to
teller
between
Maine
and
Wolcott,
where
most
of
the
sidewalks
are
kind
of
half
disintegrated.
It's.
D
A
A
You
know
the
price,
for
instance,
we
had
Granite
curbing
in
there
and
the
price
of
granite
curb
nearly
doubled
over
the
last
three
years.
So
we're
going
to
have
to
look
at
you
know
changing
the
footprint
of
the
project,
changing
some
of
the
aspects
of
the
project
and
also
having
a
cleaner
bid
process
where
we
start
at
a
at
a
better
time.
I
think
a
lot
of
contractors
had
their
work
lined
up
for
this
year
already.
So
we
would.
A
The
cdbg
so
we're
we
already,
we
already
put
in
the
Grant
and
received
the
grant
agreement
for
2023,
and
that
was
for
South
Avenue
sidewalks.
A
This
year,
they're
going
to
start
earlier,
so
I
think
it's
August
or
September
and
and
that
will
be
for
2024,
because
you
remember
last
year
it
was
they
released
it
and
said.
Oh
in
two
weeks
you
have
to
have
had
a
public
hearing
and
then
tell
us
what
you're
going
to
do
and
I
you
know.
I
asked
is
that
and
they
were
like?
No,
that's
not
the
way,
we're
going
to
run
it
in
the
future.
A
Well,
I
they
they
didn't
leave
any
time.
So
I
I
think
we
can.
You
know,
let's,
let's
look
at
how
much
road
and
sidewalk
we
can
build
with
7.35
and
and
from
there
we're
going
to
have
to
figure
out
how
to
do.
The
sewer
improvements
out
by
the
car
dealerships
extend
the
sidewalk
do
do
some
of
the
additional
stuff,
but
again
I.
Think
the
real
value
is
in
your
core,
around
Main
Street
to
Memorial
Park
and
we'll
try
to
keep
that.
F
And
Chris,
do
you
have
any
sense
of
like
when
you
guys
come
back
with
with
with
the
proposed
changes
to
the
project?
Are.
A
A
If
we're
going
to
make
changes,
they
also
have
to
do
another
NEPA
review,
a
National,
Environmental,
Protection,
Act
review,
so
I'm
not
sure
the
timeline,
okay,
I,
I
kind
of
need
their
concurrence
that
we're
headed
in
the
right
direction
and
I
think
they
realize
a
lot
of
projects
are
coming
in
well
over
bid,
and
this
is
becoming
more
normal
than
not.
A
A
Well,
we
were,
we
were,
we
were
doing
kind
of
preemptive
sewer
replacement,
knowing
that
we
were
going
to
rip
up
the
road
and
we
didn't
want
to
rip
up
the
road.
Do
the
road
over
and
then
have
to
go
back
some
years
out,
as,
as
you
may
know
like,
we
did
the
Hannah
Lane,
Fishkill
Avenue
part
of
the
sewer
and
what
we
were
trying
to
do
is
get
a
better
slope
of
the
pipe
you
know
feeding
from
that
area.
A
Similarly,
on
on
Fishkill
Avenue,
there's
not
a
lot
of
slope
in
the
pipe
and-
and
it's
just
trying
to
trying
to
make
it
so
that
over
time
you
have
an
approved
flow
through
there.
It
hasn't
been
that
much
of
an
issue.
But
you
know
in
looking
ahead.
You
have
Development
coming
on
Townsend
and
Conklin.
That
would
feed
into
that.
At
some
point
you
know
the
car
dealerships
might
be
renovated
into
mixed
use
or
you
know
denser
housing.
So
it
was
just
an
anticipation
in
that
now.
A
If
we
stop
at
Blackburn
the
the
issue
of
me
ripping
up
the
road
in
the
future,
isn't
so
pertinent
again
like
we
can
go
back
and
try
to
find
other
monies
for
those
sewer
improvements,
but
I
won't
be
doing
the
road
all
the
way
through
there.
Unless
we
decide
we
can
make
it.
You
know
five
to
ten
years.
A
Well,
I
mean
we're
just
replacing
and
upgrading
and
changing
the
the
grading
of
of
the
pipes,
so
that
you
do
that.
All
the
time
I
mean
we
just
did
that
with
the
north
intercept
at
the
end
of
2021
down
in
Dennings
Point,
all
the
old
sewers
going
into
a
new
intercept,
we're
going
to
be
bringing
to
you
contracts
to
award,
probably
in
about
six
weeks
for
the
West
Main,
Pump,
Station
and
Force
main,
which
is
necessary
for
upgrades
to
accommodate
development
at
Edgewater.
A
We're
waiting
for
approval
for
Metro
North.
On
that.
So
again
we
regularly
upgrade
these
pipes
and-
and
you
don't
replace
all
of
the
pieces
again
I-
think
I'd
like
to
do
the
entire
project.
But
when
you,
when
you're
six,
what
are
we
5.7
million
dollars
off?
D
A
We
also
are
it's
kind
of
sobering
that
on
Friday
we're
open
opening
bids
for
the
new
Firehouse
so
like,
whereas
if
we
weren't
doing
another
large
Legacy
project,
we
might
consider
like
yeah,
you
know
we
can
spend
a
little
more
than
the
7.5.
We
could
go
to
nine
with,
unlike
with
the
road
where
you
can
say
well,
we'll
do
less
Road,
it's
really
hard
to
say,
let's
do
less
Firehouse
and
you
you
end
up
doing
a
cheaper
Firehouse,
which
you
know
again.
B
Yeah
as
I
I
think
through
in
my
head
priorities
on
the
capital
side,
you
know
it
seems
to
me
and
I
I
could
be
wrong
when
we
have
the
opportunity
to
do
all
of
52.
Obviously
we
should-
and
you
know,
was
funded
now
that
we
have
to
do
a
piece
of
it.
It's
not
clear
to
me
that
the
rest
of
52,
whether
it's
the
sidewalks
or
the
road
or
the
sewer,
is
our
highest
priority.
I
I
start
doing
trade-offs.
B
Now,
like
you
know,
the
sewer
piece
will
go
back
into
our
sewer
fund
capital
projects.
D
B
We'll
kind
of
look
at
where
does
this
fit
logically,
and
it
might
not
be
the
first
thing
we
do
and
I'm
just
you
know,
trying
to
say
I
want
to
see
the
list
as
we
kind
of
work
our
way
through
it,
and
you
know
if
another
opportunity
comes
to
do
it
all
and
is
funded.
Obviously
we
take
it
and
put
it
back,
but
I
think
we
should
be
doing
some
prioritizing
I
think
differently
with
respect
to
the
Firehouse,
for
the
same
logic
that
Chris
just
used
right.
A
D
A
And
that
that'll
really
influence
what
capacity
we
have
for
further
borrowing
in
the
future,
I
mean
we're
you
have
to.
We
have
to
really
guard
our
bond
rating
judiciously,
because
that's
our
cost.
It
really
determines
our
cost
of
borrowing
and
if
we
go
too
high,
it's
like
getting
too
high
on
your
credit
card,
but
we'll
we'll
try
to
come
back
with
a
thoughtful
scaled
down
project
and
then
figure
out
when's
the
best
time
to
get
that
back
out
to
bid
okay.
A
Would
love
to
some
weeks
ago
you
approved
a
budget
amendment
to
move
money
from
contingency
into
storm
water
repairs.
This
is
the
contract
that
follows
from
that.
So
we're
looking
for
authorization
to
spend
just
over
forty
thousand
dollars
on
Precision
trans
trenchless
to
do
cipp,
which
is
cast
in
place
pipe
lining,
and
it
basically
takes
the
existing
four
foot
wide
corrugated
metal
pipe
and
it
reinforces
it
with
like
a
polymer
so
that
we
can
continue
to
have
storm
water
drain
through
here
and
not
have
it
collapse
and
you'll
see
partially.
A
The
road
is
starting
to
collapse
so
in
that
area
we'll
have
to
fix
above
there.
But
this
this
kind
of
Technology
allows
us
not
to
have
to
dig
up
the
whole
pipe
and
put
a
whole
new
span
of
pipe.
It
basically
coats
the
inside
and
is
really
effective.
So
we'll
be
looking
for
an
approval
on
that,
and
we
would
start
that
work
almost
immediately
they're
they're
just
about
ready
to
go.