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From YouTube: Beacon Planning Training 9 12 23
Description
Training session for Beacon Planning Board regarding Zoning on Route 52/Fishkill Ave area
A
I
see
what
your
game
is
no
well.
She
doesn't
need
to
be
oh
great,
so
we're
going
to
start
with
our
Workshop
to
top
the
hour
here
until
7
30,
at
which
point
we'll
start
our
regular
meeting,
where
we
have
one
regular
agenda
item
and
then
shortly
thereafter
we
have
one
Architectural
Review
certificate
of
appropriateness.
So
with
that
John
Clark
will
outline
for
us.
You
may
remember
board.
We
received
a
notice
from
the
municipality
of
Fishkill
around
the
self
storage
along
52.
I
believe
right.
B
They're
going
to
put
a
storage
unit
right
south
of
84
on
the
east
side
of
90
right
before
you
get
to
the
intersection
which
is
just
outside
the
city
and
there's
issues,
I
think,
there's
it's
wet
in
the
back
there's
traffic
in
and
out
problems.
You
know
how
do
you
get
a
driveway
and
turn
left
there
and
all
that
sort
of
thing,
so
I
guess
Fishkill,
positive
I
was
surprised
at
that,
but.
C
B
You
yes,
and
nothing
set
in
stone
at
this
point,
but
there's
a
few
things
that
are
going
on
that
sort
of
precipitated
this.
This
idea
that
maybe
we
should
think
about
the
rezoning
of
that
stretch
of
the
road
one
is
that
one
of
the
major
car
dealers
is
apparently
moving
out,
which
is
going
to
free
up
a
lot
of
land
and
there's
been
people
who
are
been
coming
into
the
building
department,
with
conceptual
ideas
and
and
right
now,
under
the
zoning
there's
no
specific
other
than
the
bulk
tables.
B
B
And
the
second
thing-
and
this
is
sort
of
I-
think
a
big
deal
for
the
city
is
that
the
the
MTA
right-of-way
that
goes
all
along
the
creek
there
and
right
along
the
back
edge
of
of
those
businesses,
is
now
being
proposed
for
a
rail
trail
which
would
connect
all
the
way
to
Hopewell
Junction
up
to
the
walkway
over
the
Hudson
down.
B
You
know
it
would
be
a
major
interconnection
of
the
greenway
trail
system
coming
up
from
the
south
and
to
the
center
of
the
county
and
up
north
and
to
the
South
as
well.
So
it's
a
major
bike
in
pedestrian
facility
that
will
be
right
through
there
and
that
could
change
the
character
of
that
area
or
at
least
what
the
city
has
in
mind
for
that
area.
So
they
asked
me
to
take
a
look
at
it
and
come
up
with
some
design
guidelines
and
and
some
new
sort
of
dimensional
standards
and
whatever
so
I've
done.
B
That
and
I
presented
it
to
the
council.
They
were
favorably
disposed.
They
made
some
suggestions,
some
changes
and
they
said
we'd
be
interested
in
getting
some
initial
feedback
from
the
planning
board.
Before
we
put
anything
into
a
local
law
and
send
it
to
the
public,
so
I'm
here
to
get
your
initial
reactions
and
comments.
So
this
is
the
area
as
it
stands
now.
It's
sort
of
a
mixture
of
light
industrial
to
the
South
going
down.
As
far
as
the
old
talax
plant,
heavy
industrial,
that's
the
right
of
way
of
MTA.
B
A
B
C
B
A
B
D
A
E
B
It's
primarily,
they
wanted
to
have
design
guidelines
and
there
are
other
GB
districts
in
the
city.
So
if
they
just
extended
that,
then
the
design
guidelines
would
extend
to
all
those
districts
and
they
wanted
to
just
focus
on.
B
C
B
B
And
all
the
way
down
to
the
italics,
Northern
property
line
that
include
those
three
existing
districts
plus
a
little
bit
of
the
residential
over
here,
where
that
church
is
on
the
other
side
of
the
street.
B
D
Thank
you,
yeah
and
I,
can't
remember
who
made
the
comment,
but
someone
made
the
comment
that
you
get
a
building
here
with
nice
materials,
a
nice
design
and
you're,
going
to
start
creating
a
bit
of
a
Gateway
impression
on
people
coming
into
the
city,
giving
them
an
idea
of
what
they
can
expect
ahead,
and
so,
if
this
area
becomes
something
other
than
car
dealerships,
if
there
is
some
mixed
use
of
some
residential
development,
I
think
we
should
try
to
you
know
perhaps
Focus.
You
need
some
design
standards,
and
maybe
there
are
things
that
we.
D
Maybe
there
are
some
things
that
can
even
be
increased
Beyond
what
they
are.
If
there's
the
potential
for
retrail
a
significant
rail
trail
connection,
the
presence
of
the
fish
go
Creek,
and
this
is
an
example
I'm,
not
even
you
know,
I'm
just
kind
of
pulling
inside
the
air,
but
maybe
even
some
of
the
minimum
criteria,
like
must
have
15,
you
know,
plantings
and
vegetation.
D
A
natural
Corridor
that
this
is
going
to
be
you
know,
part
of,
and
so
it's
just
like,
that's
just
an
example
of
pulling
something
out
of
there,
but
there's
an
opportunity
to
create
something
special
with
some
of
the
recreational
resources
and
natural
features
around
it.
If
you
want
a
little
bit
more
and
we've
had.
B
A
B
So
they
asked
me
to
try
to
come
up
with
some
sort
of
hybrid
District.
I
use
the
linkage
District
design
standards
pretty
much
made
some
minor
tweaks,
but
I
also
allowed
for
things
like
a
drive-through
window
or
a
gas
station
that
would
be
allowed
here.
As
long
as
it
was
say,
you
know
the
pumps
were
behind
the
convenience
store
rather
than
in
front
of
it.
The
parking
has
to
be
to
the
rear,
drive-through
Windows
have
to
be
to
the
side
or
rear
not
to
the
front.
B
In
Front
Street,
trees,
sidewalks,
so
there's
it's
sort
of
they
wanted
to
have
something
there.
That's
still
allowed
for
some
Auto
oriented
uses,
but
made
it
capable
of
having
a
building
like
this
and
blend
it
all
in
and
I.
Think
everybody,
or
there
was
agreement
that
had
a
good
grocery
store,
would
be
a
good
thing
for
that.
G
B
Exactly
so,
they
wanted
to
make
sure
that
whatever
we
did
didn't
preclude
a
grocery
store
or
a
a
gas
station
or
a
car
wash
or
things
like
that,
it
just
would
up
the
design
standards
so
that
those
things
would
blend
into
other
sorts
of
buildings
so
that
it
wasn't
all
car
washes
and
car
dealers
and
auto
oriented
uses.
There
would
be
a
mix.
A
B
G
B
Gas
stations
and
fast
food
joints
are
going
to
be
challenged
by
that,
but
they
can
do
it.
There's
no
reason.
You
can't
put
a
second
story
on
a
storage.
B
The
way
it's
written
now
I
mean
that's
all
right,
everything's
in
a
first
draft
sort
of
situation,
I've
already
had
comments
from
the
CAC
and
from
the
council
members.
So
I've
made
some
changes.
You
can
look
at
them
tonight.
If
you
have
we,
if
you
had
time,
but
they
want
something
to
allow
a
building
like
this
or
promote
a
building
like
this,
but
still
allow
a
grocery
store.
If
it
wanted
to
come
in
or
something
else,
it
would
have
to
be
two-story
along
the
frontage,
but
not
necessarily
the
back.
A
Thing
yeah:
is
there
a
consideration
for
support
services
like
sort
of
medical
oriented
like
clinics.
B
F
B
F
B
F
F
There's
a
lot
of
limitations.
What
I'm
saying
is
there
are
only
a
few
locations
that
a
healthcare
facility
could
physically
locate
in
the
city
right
now
and
they
need
parking.
They
need
a
lot
of
other
things
that
are
in
that
are
provided
in
some
of
the
larger
Lots
here
and
I.
Just
think.
It's
short-sighted
to
prohibit
that.
Certainly.
B
F
B
F
B
But
I
wanted
to
talk
about
the
map.
First,
one
of
the
constraints
of
this
area
is
the
lots
of
relatively
shallow,
and
so
in
order
to
put
in
a
building
like
Conklin,
you
really
sort
of
need
about
150
feet
depth
and
none
of
this
area
has
150
feet:
depth
on
the
east
side,
it's
138
on
average
and
on
the
west
side
it's
90,
which
is
pretty
tight.
If
you're
going
to
put
rear
yard
parking,
lots,
there's
just
not
enough
room
for
them.
So
that's
always
a
constraint.
B
I
did
want
to
ask
when
I
was
looking
at
the
maps
today,
there's
three
areas
where
this
is
all
residentially
zoned
but
commercially
used.
So
these
lots
are
coming
available
across
from
the
new
building
on
Conklin
or
the
proposed
building
on
Conklin.
B
That
goes
all
the
way
up
to
Mead
Avenue
here,
and
the
gas
station
goes
all
the
way
up
to
me
and
that
property
and
there's
a
vacant
parcel
up
here
next
to
the
dollar
store
or
whatever
that
is
so.
The
the
business
district
could
expand
into
that
area.
It
would
pinch
those
houses
in
the
back,
perhaps
but
there's
you
know,
there's
Hills
coming
down
where
they're
they're
actually
easier
to
access
from
the
front
than
they
are
from
from
the
back
from
the
residential
street.
So.
B
A
A
B
Out
yeah,
so
there
was
discussion
about,
should
it
should
extend
all
the
way
up
to
the
Town
Line.
Sorry
on
the
North
End
I
took
it
up
to
the
front
yard
of
camprein,
because
it
starts
getting
very
steep
after
that.
It's.
F
F
And
also
how
much
commercial,
tax
income
and
jobs
and
other
beneficial
business
activity
is
going
to
be
removed
by
doing
this,
because
this
is
during
the
comprehensive
plan.
F
I
just
want
to
a
couple
things
I
want
to
say
preface
is
that
during
the
comprehensive
plan,
this
area
was
one
of
the
places
that
generated
a
lot
of
the
income
that
the
city
had
before
Main
Street
was
built
up,
and
there
really
was
a
conscious
effort
to
create
and
maintain
a
diverse
economy
in
vegan,
where
it
wasn't
just
a
residential
Community
right
where
there
were
jobs.
There
were
industrial
zoning.
There
was
light
industrial
zoning.
F
There
were
commercial
areas,
it
was
a
wide
diversity
and
I
think
we
have
to
be
really
careful
that
we're
not
removing
one
of
the
areas
where
a
certain
segment
of
of
business
use
can
occur
right
entirely
because
the
highest
value
for
any
of
these.
If
there's
residential
allowed
in
these
areas,
the
highest
value,
there's
Millions,
you
know-
maybe
three
million
reasons
why
somebody's
going
to
build
residential
in
an
area
if
they
are
given
the
choice
of
anything
right.
So
it's
not
an
idea
that
they
can
do
anything.
F
It's
the
idea
that
there's
a
preponderance
of
the
work
is
going
to
be
residential
right.
So
I
think
that
we
need
to
be
aware
of
that.
Take
that
into
account
when
we're
analyzing
this
and
we
need
to
have
heart
data
we
need.
You
know
like
a
build
out
analysis.
We
need
test,
fits
and
some
other
things
so
that
we
can
make
a
rational
judgment
as
to
how
extensive
this
is,
what
its
impact
is
in
the
city
and
also
I.
Think
that
it
wasn't.
F
B
B
B
F
Partly
because
of
the
hard
work
that
we
did
democratically
fit
with
a
large
Community
large
amount
of
community
input
to
improve
those
District
changes
right
and
so
I
want
to
make
sure
that
this
is
done
with
a
broad
Democratic
effort.
You.
C
B
Is
the
start
of
the
process?
Okay,
but
I
just
wanted
to
assure
you
at
this
point
at
least
the
zoning
is
designed
so
that
the
ground
floor
has
to
be
commercial,
so
you're
not
losing
that
commercial
base
you're
losing
a
car
dealer,
but
you're
gaining
five
or
six
extra
stores
on
that.
You
know
that
area
that
used
to
be
a
car
lot
and.
F
As
part
of
that,
I
want
to
also
just
I
want
to
really
encourage
you
to
not
sort
of
frame
the
choices
that
we
have
as
the
the
uses
and
density
and
then
sort
of
are
off
the
table.
They've
already
been
decided
and
that
all
we
are
only
talking
hang.
C
D
A
So
I
just
want
to
state
that
and
yeah.
What
I'm
hearing
is
that
this
fa
is
beta,
complete
yeah,
it's
a
new
District
yeah.
B
But
that
yes
certainly
go
through
a
public
process.
Yeah
yeah
public
hearings-
and
this
is
just
an
initial
first
draft,
where
the
map
has
changed
just
from
the
first
meeting
and
suggesting
that,
maybe
you
think
about
other
changes.
B
Yes,
we
looked
at
the
comprehensive
plan
and
I
found
four
areas
where
52
is
talked
about.
Two
of
them
have
what
I
would
suggest
you
would
want
to
change
the
language
in
it,
because,
essentially,
it
says,
leave
it
alone,
and
this
is
obviously
not
leaving
it
alone,
but
facts
have
changed,
especially
the
rail
trail
element
has
changed.
That's
a
big
difference
between
a
abandoned
rail
Corridor
and
a
recreational
resource
that
has
Regional
implications.
G
E
E
Especially
given
that,
as
things
stand
right
now,
this
FAA
zoning
District
would
just
be
applicable
to
the
area
we're
looking
at
and
part
of
that
is
GE
where
manufacturing
wouldn't
be
allowed.
But
what,
if
manufacturing
and
Industrial
at
least
became
either
a
permanent
use
or
a
service
for
our
permittedness
or
special
from
reviews?
Yes.
B
Proposed
use
table
changes
and,
at
the
first
pass
we
essentially
left
everything
with
the
same
as
GB,
so
there'd
be
nothing
that
taken
away
from
GB.
What
has
been
added
is
the
last
industrial
or
manufacturing.
Use
has
been
added
to
that
District
so
that
you
would
have
the
option.
I
mean
I've
suggested,
be
a
special
permit
by
the
planning
board.
Just.
B
A
B
C
B
B
Suit
yeah,
so
a
hospital
or
a
nursing
home,
as
defined
in
the
in
the
back,
which
is
more
of
a
regional
type
facility
with
emergency
services
and
things
like
that.
Anything
else
would
be
covered
under
office,
personal
service,
retail,
anything
like
Medical,
Offices
or
urgent
care,
or
any
of
that
sort
of
thing
would
be
allowed
here.
When.
A
A
B
A
F
B
A
B
G
B
F
Places,
that's
not
true.
What's
happening
is
they're
consolidating
so
they're,
building,
outpatient
feeder
facilities
for
the
chains
at
Westchester
and
other
ones
that
are
building
Regional,
smaller
mid-sized
things
that
will
then
pass
hospitals
down
to
their
medical
centers.
So
there
is
a
lot
of
there's
still
a
lot
of
medical
construction
happening.
I.
B
Have
medical
instruction
yeah
I
mean
hospitals
are
sometimes
going
out
of
business
and
being
Consolidated
with
bigger
ones
nearby.
A
Yeah,
so
this
is
a
lot
to
consider
right.
So,
yes,
knowing
that
it's
the
start
of
the
process,
there
will
be
a
further
opportunity
for
us
to
share
our
input.
Yes,.
B
C
A
Whatever
happens
to
that
end,
are
you
able
to
make
your
work
product
here
available
to
the
group,
yeah
yeah
and
so
in
doing
so,
then
that's
the
invitation
to
share
whatever
detailed
thoughts
and
comments
you
have,
and
maybe
we
we
do
that
over
the
next
month
and
you
know
see
where
we're
at
and
compiling
them
so
that
we
have
something
comprehensive
and
thoughtful
to
share
back
to
the
city
council.