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From YouTube: Beacon Zoning Board Training 8 15 23
Description
Zoning Board Training session on new local law regarding "All Electric Buildings"
A
Sure
for
the
first
30
minutes,
or
so
our
attorney
George
is
going
to
start
a
work
training
session
for
the
board
and
the
public.
B
All
right,
as
Jordan
said,
my
name
is
George.
I
represent
the
zoning
board
here,
City
attorney,
so
we're
going
to
have
a
quick
presentation
for
the
boarding
for
the
public
today
on
the
new
local
law
that
was
adopted
by
the
city
council
on
his
effective
January,
1st
2024
concerning
all
electric
all
electric
buildings,
the
inspiration
for
the
law.
It
was
a
state
thing,
New
York
adopted
the
climate
leadership
and
Community
protection
act.
B
So
in
New
York
state
the
pending
all-electric
proposals,
you
have
first
the
governor's
budget
proposal
that
calls
for
the
installation
of
fossil
fuel
equipment
and
Building
Systems
and
any
new
single-family
Residential
Building
of
any
height
or
any
new
multi-family
Residential
Building,
not
more
than
three
stories
in
height
that
shall
be
prohibited
on
or
after
December,
31st
2025..
So
we're
still
a
couple
years
away
from
that.
B
But
that's
that's
something
to
keep
on
the
radar,
the
installation
of
fossil
fuel
equipment
and
Building
Systems
in
any
new
multi-family
Residential
Building,
more
than
three
stories
in
height
or
new
commercial
buildings
shall
be
prohibited
on
or
after
December,
31st
2028,
so
for
multi-family,
residential,
more
than
three
stories
or
for
commercial.
So
typically
larger
projects
they're
giving
them
a
little
extra
time.
That's
20
28,
but
for
a
single
family,
residential
or
multi-family
residential
buildings.
Less
than
three
stories
that's
prohibited
on
or
after
December
31st
2025.,.
C
So
you
said
new:
what
about
enhanced
via
building
permit.
B
In
retrospect,
the
I
don't
believe
this
state
has
any
intention
to
actually
require
people
to
go
back
and
change
anything.
But
when
you
have
new
construction,
that's
when
you
can
then
put
in
requirements
to
be
fossil
fuel,
free
and
clean
energy
and
green.
B
A
B
In
that
situation,
it's
it's
a
question
of
what
crosses
the
line
of
renovation
right
if
you're
renovating
but
you're
keep
you're
tearing
out
everything
except
the
exterior
walls.
Is
it
really
a
renovation
right?
That's
going
to
be
problem,
municipality
to
municipality,
specific
and
that's.
You
know,
determination
for
the
the
building
inspector
at
if.
C
Wall
that
the
city
passed
a
few
months
so
I
think
it
was
more
than
a
few
months
back
now,
but
the
law
of
the
city
passed
was
that
if
somebody
was
to
do
75
percent
renovation
or
more
of
the
home-
and
they
were
also
changing
out
the
you
know
the
heating
system
in
the
house,
they
would
have
to
go
all
electric
at
that
point.
That's
that's
a
trigger
just
for
the
city
of
Beacon
right
now,
or
at
least
we'll
be
starting.
The
first
of
the
year.
B
In
terms
of
exemptions
from
the
state
budget,
exemptions,
there's
any
exemptions
as
a
state
fire
prevention
or
Building
Code
Council
deem
appropriate
for
the
purposes
of
allowing
the
insulation
and
use
of
fossil
fuel
equipment
where
such
are
installed
and
used
for
basically,
three
things
for
generation
of
emergency,
backup
power
in
a
manufactured
home
or
in
a
building
or
part
of
a
building
that
is
used
as
a
there's.
B
A
list
of
things
here:
manufacturing
facility,
commercial,
food
establishment,
laboratory,
laundromat,
hospital
or
other
medical
facility
or
critical
infrastructure,
such
as
backup
power
for
wastewater
treatment
facilities
or
crematoriums.
Things
like
that
that
that's
an
exemption
and
where
the
exemption
is
permitted.
The
exemption
shall
limit
to
the
full
system
feasible.
B
Provided
that
they
don't
adversely
affect
the
health
safety
security,
fire
protection,
Financial
considerations
stuff,
like
that,
it's
not
a
financial
consideration,
is
not
a
sufficient
basis
to
determine
infeasibility
right.
It's
not
enough
to
say
that
this
is
going
to
be
too
expensive,
so
it's
unfeasible,
it
really
has
to
do
with.
Is
it
going
to
affect
the
health
safety
security
things
like
that?
These
core
principles,
if
now
going
to
more
local
February
6
2023
city
of
Beacon
city
council,
will
introduce
the
proposed
law
to
create
chapter
106,
Article
5
of
the
city
code.
B
It's
entitled
all
electric
buildings.
This
is
to
require
the
electrification
of
new
residential
and
commercial
buildings
and,
as
the
lane
referred
to
and
Bruce
explained
major
Renovations,
this
was
adopted.
March,
1st
I
believe
2023.
So,
a
couple
weeks
later,
the
purpose
of
the
law
is
to
establish
a
local
energy
code,
supplement
for
all
new
construction
and
major
renovations
and,
like
I,
said
it's
it's
to
really
go
green.
It's
to
really.
B
The
goal
is
to
eliminate
what
people
call
obsolete
natural
gas
infrastructure
and
Associated
greenhouse
gas
emissions
in
new
buildings,
where
all
electric
infrastructure
can
be
most
practically
integrated,
and
this
is
again
to
reduce
the
environmental
and
health
hazards
produced
by
transportation
of
natural
gas
consumption
of
natural
gas
and
anything
related
to
that
that
is
effective
in
the
city
of
Beacon,
starting
January,
1st
2024,
that's
in
the
local
law,
just
an
FYI
I,
don't
believe
e-codes
has
been
updated.
Yet
I
looked
at
e-codes.
This
isn't
on
e-codes
yet,
but
it
should
be
shortly
coming.
B
B
Though
the
2025
was
for
the
state,
but
in
the
city
of
Beacon,
it's
January
1st
2024
that
it's
effective
so
and
you'll
see
why
that's
relevant
to
the
zoning
Board
in
a
couple
slides.
But
right
now
again
that's
for
new
buildings
and
major
Renovations.
That's
not
I,
don't
think
the
goal
anywhere
is
to
go
retroactively
and
say:
well,
you
have
a
gas
stove
change
that
out
for
no
reason
other
than
you
have
a
gas
stove.
B
But
you
know
the
Authority,
for
this
is
under
New
York,
State
energy
law,
section
11-109,
it's
and
subject
to
the
requirements
of
that
section.
The
city
of
Beacon
has
the
power
to
promulgate
a
local
energy
conservation
construction
code
that
is
more
stringent
than
the
energy
conservation
construction
code
of
New
York
state,
so
New
York
State
could
say
you
have
to
do.
X,
Y
and
Z
city
of
Beacon
or
any
municipality
could
say
you
have
to
do
XYZ,
plus
a
b
c
d
That's
well
within
their
right.
B
The
city
also
has
the
authority
to
enact
the
law
based
upon
Article
1
Section
19
of
the
State
Constitution,
which
guarantees
each
person's
quote
right
to
clean
air
and
water
in
a
healthful
environment,
and
we
see
more
and
more
throughout
the
country.
These
movements
to
go
green
to
clean
the
environment
have
cleaner
air,
cleaner
water
things
like
that
city
of
Beacon
is
not
alone.
However,
some
anecdotes
in
December
2021
New
York
City
Council
passed
legislation
to
phase
fossil
fuels
out
of
new
construction
starting
in
2024..
B
This
law
means
that
new
buildings,
with
few
exceptions,
will
be
all
electric
and
emit
less
carbon
all
while
improving
local
air
quality
and
making
occupants
more
comfortable.
It
places
an
effective
ban
on
fossil
fuel
systems
in
new
buildings
and
renovated
ones
pushing
to
make
all
new
buildings
completely
Electric.
B
This
affects
everything
from
how
the
building
is
heated
to
the
kind
of
stoves
that
will
be
in
apartments
right,
I.
Think
generally,
when
we
think
gas
versus
electric,
it's
probably
HVAC
systems
heat,
for
example,
and
stoves.
That's
really
what
it
comes
down
to
dryers,
to
clothing
dryers.
That's
another
big
one:
water
heaters
water
heaters
as
well
yeah.
B
So
there's
there's
really
these
key
things
that
everyone
thinks
of
and
places
are
trying
to
get
out
ahead
of
that
and
and
require
you
good
to
go
Greener
with
whatever
side
effects
that
has
whether
it's
added
cost
or
less
efficiency,
more
efficiency
whatever
it
is
that
that's
really
the
the
desire
Behind
these
laws
in
New
York
City.
The
requirements
will
be
phased
in.
For
example,
new
quote-unquote
low-rise
buildings
will
be
required
to
be
electric
by
2024
schools
by
2025
and
larger
buildings
by
2027
in
New
York
City.
B
The
locker
is
almost
all
new
construction
renovations,
with
the
exception
of
again
some
manufacturing
hospitals
and
restaurants.
Right,
there's
certain
obviously
carve
outs
for
this
requirement
with
the
intention
that
places
like
hospitals
that
we
see
a
lot
are
manufacturing
facilities
might
not
be
feasible
again
for
the
health
safety
welfare
of
the
community,
not
necessarily
for
the
economic
reasons.
Another
example
is
the
town
and
city
of
Ithaca.
They
also
adopted
a
similar
legislation,
their
effective
January,
1st
2026.
B
All
buildings
must
be
built
to
have
Net
Zero
greenhouse
gas
emissions
and
they
shall
not
use
fossil
fuels
for
space
heating,
water,
heating
or
clothes
Shrine
right.
Those
are
some
of
the
things
we
just
mentioned.
It
also
requires
that
all
new
buildings
constructed
in
such
a
way
to
produce
40
percent
fewer
greenhouse
gas
emissions
than
New
York
state
code
requires,
and
it
requires
that
new
construction
be
Net
Zero
by
2030..
This
is
an
overlay
to
the
state
energy
code,
which
includes
its
own
efficiency
requirements,
including
lighting
ventilation,
other
requirements.
B
So
that's
again
an
example
of
you
have
the
state
overarching
goal,
but
you
also
have
the
ability,
as
a
municipality,
to
be
more
stringent
in
the
city
of
Ithaca,
is
showing
that
now
being
specific
to
City
of
Beacon.
The
law
applies
to
new
residential
construction,
new
commercial
construction
and
major
renovations.
B
What
it
does
not
apply
to
is
systems
for
emergency
backup
power,
because,
if
you're
out
of
electricity
and
your
emergency
backup
is
electric
based,
you
don't
have
the
emergency
backup
you're
out
of
luck.
B
Dead
yeah,
once
the
batteries
go
dead,
so
manufactured
homes,
building
specifically
designated
for
occupancy
by.
We
see
it
again:
manufacturing
facility,
commercial
food
establishment,
laboratory,
laundromat,
crematorium
hospital
or
other
medical
facility,
Municipal
Water
and
Sewer
facilities,
or
any
project
that
receives
site
plan
approval
from
the
planning
board
prior
to
June
30th
2023.,
we're
past.
That
today
is
August,
15
2023,
but
we
are
past
that
major
Renovations.
B
What
is
that
a
major
renovation
under
the
new
law
is
described
as
defined
as
any
construction
or
renovation
to
an
existing
structure
other
than
a
repair
or
addition
where
the
work
area
exceeds,
as
Bruce
said
before,
75
percent
of
the
heated
floor
area
and
involves
the
replacement
or
new
installation
of
a
heating
or
hot
water
system,
think
a
boiler
think
of
furnace
or
other
major
system
of
that
sort,
changes
to
ventilation
and
air
conditioned
systems
are
not
considered
Renovations
of
the
heating
system.
B
B
So
that's
that's
sort
of
what
the
the
the
rationale
behind
that
is,
but
again
being
that
it's
August
15th
and
we're
having
this.
This
presentation
there's
a
good
chance
that,
however
many
handful
of
projects
are
approved,
but
going
forward
now
site
plan
approval
received
from
the
day
forward
that
exemption
does
not
apply.
The
article
also
provides
requirements
and
standards
are
in
addition
to
and
supplement
the
requirements
and
standards
set
forth
in
the
energy
code
and
in
chapter
119,
which
is
uniform
fire
prevention
and
building
code
of
of
our
city
code.
B
If
a
requirement
of
this
article
is
less
stringent
than
that
of
the
energy
code,
in
effect,
at
the
time
of
application
for
a
building
permit,
then
the
more
stringent
energy
code
requirements
shall
take
precedence.
So
if
you
have
energy
code
requirement-
and
you
have
this
section
requirement-
you
go
with
the
more
stringent
one
at
the
time
of
the
building
application
permit.
B
The
city
shall
enforce
this
article.
In
addition
to
the
city's
enforcement
of
the
energy
code,
chapter
119,
which
is
a
uniform
fire
prevention
and
building
code,
sets
forth
the
method
for
administration
and
enforcement
of
this
article,
and
that
establishes
powers,
duties
and
responsibilities
and
connection
there
with
including
penalties
and
other
violations
and
other
remedies
for
violations
of
this
article.
B
Where
an
exemption
is
permitted,
the
exemption
shall
limit
or
require
to
the
fullest
extent,
as
determined
in
the
scroll
sole
discretion
of
the
building
inspector
to
limit
the
use
of
fossil
fuel
equipment
and
Building
Systems
to
the
system,
area,
system
and
area
of
the
building
for
which
the
prohibition
is
infeasible
and
it
shall
require
the
area
or
service
within
a
new
building
where
fossil
fuel
equipment
and
Building
Systems
are
installed,
be
all
electric
ready.
Again,
we
saw
that
from
the
state
we're
seeing
that
in
the
city
as
well.
B
We
want
to
be
all
electric
ready
again,
you're,
always
Forward
Thinking.
This
is
the
the
new
wave,
the
New
Movement
kind
of
deal
so.
B
C
Guy
I
do
the
yeah
that
would
be
the
intact,
but
the
you
know
all
electric
ready,
actually
there's
currently
Provisions
today
for
some
things
to
be
newer
homes
to
be
ready
for
solar
system.
So
the
city
adopted
the
stretch,
energy
code,
so
there's
Provisions
within
the
electrical
requirements
there
that
they
have
to
put
in
wiring
and
get
ready
to
put
in
a
car
charger
as
well
as
you
know,
putting
in
the
at
least
the
conduits
for
the
solar
system.
You
know
that
may
possibly
come
up
in
the
future.
C
This
law
would
be.
You
know
something
very
similar,
so
if
they
were
to
put
in
I
guess
a
fossil
fuel,
you
know
furnace,
you
know
they
would
have
to
have
Provisions
or
at
least
have
enough
power
within
the
building.
You
know
with
a
proper
breaker
in
the
Box
in
order
to
so
run
a
heat
pump.
You
know
for
some
at
that
point
in
time
when
they
switch
over.
B
Again,
the
main
things
that
we
think
of
and
that
we
mentioned
already
also
on
that
same
day,
January,
1st
2024,
any
heating
or
hot
water
systems
such
as
a
boiler
furnace
or
other
major
system
repaired
or
installed
anytime
after
the
issuance
of
a
building
permit
to
construct
or
renovate
an
existing
structure
involving
75
percent
or
more
of
the
heated
floor
area
other
than
a
repair
addition
shall
be
electric.
We
discussed
that,
but
those
are
some
things
to
keep
in
mind
and
the
important
thing
is
January
1st
2021
for
right.
B
So
that's
in
three
four
four
months
or
so
right,
so
it
is
coming
up.
This
is,
this
is
a
reality,
so
to
speak,
it'll
be
here
before
we
know
it.
B
All
plans
submitted
with
in
connection
with
any
application
for
new
construction
subject
to
the
provisions
of
the
article,
must
include
notes
and
drawings
to
show
the
removal
of
petroleum
tanks
and
demonstrate
that
any
tank
removed
was
appropriately
closed
in
accordance
with
state
regulations
right.
So
it's
not
only,
let's
see
electric,
we
don't
really
care
about
what
happens.
You
also
have
to
have
a
plan
to
remove
everything
safely,
because
again
it's
not
a
matter
of
my
building
is
electric
going
forward
great
it's.
B
B
She'll
have
to
have
notes
and
drawings
to
show
the
removal
of
natural
gas
infrastructure
and
demonstrate
again
that
the
natural
gas
was
capped
and
then
the
appropriate
details
shall
be
noted.
If
such
natural
gas
infrastructure
is
required
to
support
an
emergency
backup
generator,
for
example
right.
So
if
you
are
keeping
natural
gas
around,
you
have
to
be
able
to
point
that
either
we
cut
it
off
here
or
it's
around,
but
it's
for
this
limited
purpose.
Right
again,
this
is
very
forward
thinking.
You
don't
want
to
leave
a
stone
unturned.
B
You
don't
want
it
to
be
the
fact
that
cut
it
off.
You
don't
have
to
know
what
I'm
doing
you
know
you,
don't
you
don't
have
to
worry,
there's
no
more
gas
going
to
this
building.
It's
it's
a
matter
of.
We
want
to
make
sure
everything
is
done
properly.
Everything
has
to
be
pointed
out
or
relevant
to
the
zba
is
a
hardship
exemption
right,
so
any
applicant
who's
building
permit
application
has
been
denied.
May
apply
to
the
zoning
board
of
appeals
for
the
hardship
exemption.
B
B
The
zba
shall,
within
45
days
hold
a
public
hearing
right,
so
you
get
the
application
to
the
zba
45
days
later
public
hearing
generally,
that
shouldn't
be
an
issue
because
we
have
meetings
every
month
right.
So
if
you
have
the
application
in
you're
going
to
be
within
that
30
31
days,
there's
we
don't
take
a
month
off
where
then
you're
rushing
to
get
into
that
45-day
period.
Notice
of
the
public
hearing
is
going
to
be
the
same
as
every
other
public
hearing
right.
You
have
posting,
you
have
mailing.
B
You
have
publication,
it's
going
to
be
just
like
that
at
the
public
hearing,
the
board
may
hear
a
testimony
and
entertain
the
submission
of
written
evidence
from
the
applicant
and
or
the
public.
So
again,
it's
similar
to
what
we
do
every
month
here
public
gets
to
speak.
The
applicant
gets
to
speak.
You
guys
have
questions
you
ask
about
it
now
to
obtain
the
certificate
of
hardship.
B
The
applicant
has
to
prove
that
there
is
a
hardship
and
by
doing
that,
you're
establishing
that
if
you
were
to
comply
with
the
requirements
of
the
article
which
may
be
stringent
for
too
stringent
for
some
people,
you
have
to
show
us
financially,
technically
or
physically
infeasible
particular
examples
of
what
those
are
I
mean
you
could
think
of
Plenty
and
that's
what
we're
going
to
see
when,
if
and
when
applications
for
this
exemption
come
before
the
board
and.
B
Yeah
it
has
to
be
non-self-created
and
it
has
to
be
either
I
physically
cannot
do
this.
Is
this
going
to
cost
me
20
million
dollars
to
to
make
this
building
all
electric
or
there's
just
not?
No,
there's
no
power
here
where
there's
not
enough
power.
Whatever
the
case
is
thereafter,
the
zbs
make
a
decision
within
30
days
of
the
conclusion
of
the
hearing.
Board's
decision
shall
be
in
writing,
shall
State
the
reasons
for
granting
or
denying
the
application
so
again
very
similar
to
what
we
do
here
every
month.
B
Anyway,
notwithstanding
this
General
hardship
exemption,
all
new
construction
and
major
Reserve
Renovations
shall
be
required
to
be
all
electric
ready
right.
So
again,
maybe
you
can't
be
all
electric
right
now,
but
be
all
electric
ready
for
if
something
changes
in
a
few
years,
you
don't
have
to
now
tear
down
the
whole
building
and
go
all
electric.
You
have
to
show
that
you
are
ready
to
receive
or
to
to
take
that
step
forward.
Have
the
clean
energy
under
the
city
code
and
under
the
state
regulations?
B
That's
the
relevance
to
the
zba.
That's
the
relevance
of
the
public
who,
if
they
are
applying
for
an
exemption,
will
be
before
the
zba.
That
was
a
super
quick
overview
again
this
this
isn't
on
e-codes
right
now,
but
I'm
sure
it's
somewhere
on
the
website
or
you
could
always
request
it
from
the
city
clerk
or
whatever
the
case
is.
You
could
always
search
it
online
under
the
New
York
State
documents
as
well.
It
should
be
on
e-codes
shortly.
I
would
imagine
I'm
not
sure
how
often
e-codes
is
updated,
but
it
it's
on
there.
B
B
That's
something
that
you
know
it's
not
like
an
area
of
variance
for
example,
or
use
variants
where
we
have
state
mandated
requirements
or
considerations
to
take
factors
to
take
into
consideration,
but
one
hearing
an
application
for
this
hardship,
exemption
and
you're
asking.
Why
is
this
infeasible?
It's
up
to
you
guys
to
determine
okay?
Well,
did
you,
for
example,
like
manto,
said
yeah
and
maybe
there's
better
examples?
B
I
don't
know,
but
did
you
buy
the
property
assuming
that
you
could
come
to
the
zba,
and
this
was
going
to
be
rubber
stamp,
for
example,
right,
maybe
that's,
not
persuasive
enough,
as
opposed
to
I
bought
the
property
it's
located
somewhere,
where
there's
just
not
enough
power
to
supply
to
the
to
the
building
right
now
right.
So
those
are
some
different
things
and,
as
you
probably
know,
from
the
variances
applications
that
we
get
and
everything
properties
are
always
unique
right,
it's
always
a
case-by-case
basis.
B
There's
no
two
properties,
the
same
there's,
no
two
cases
the
same,
so
it's
probably
going
to
be
the
same
thing
with
the
hardship
exemption,
no
two
properties,
the
same,
no
two
applications,
the
same.
No
two
rationales
are
the
same,
but
that's
where
you
hear
you
ask
the
questions
the
applicant
submits.
You
know
their
application,
the
public
has
their
say
and
we
take
it
Case
by
case
all
right.
B
That
is
it
for
the
hardship
exemption,
the
all-electric
building
code
presentation
with
that
being
said,
I
think
now
we
will
move
on
to
our
regular
business.
This
was
the
first
training
session.
We've
had
in
quite
some
time
since
Drew
left,
so
I
will
try
to
incorporate
these
going
forward
as
well.