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Community Services and Land Use Committee
Agendas can be found at https://beaufortcountysc.gov/council/council-committee-meetings/index.html
A
A
Right
I
had
a
motion
by
chairman
Joe
passman
and
second
by
Vice,
chairman
Larry,.
A
We
have
a
second
I'll.
Second,
it
all
right.
Thank
you.
Miss
Brown
motion
was
made
by
Miss
tabernick
in
second
by
by
Miss
Brown,
all
in
favor.
A
Okay,
we
have
several
citizen
comment
period
and
one
person
who
signed
up
is
not
here
yet
and
I
would
remind
everyone.
A
Every
member
of
the
public
who
is
recognized
to
speak,
shall
limit
comments
to
three
minutes
and
observe
a
following
protocol
address
the
chairman
and,
in
speaking,
avoid
disrespect
to
council
and
any
personalities
confine
themselves
to
questions
under
the
jurisdiction
of
counsel
be
mindful
and
respectful
of
those
who
are
present
and
others
who
may
be
watching
on
television.
The
first
person
that
signed
up
I,
understand
is
was
signed
up
by
someone
else,
and
she
is
not
here
yet.
So
we
will
start
with
the
second
person
on
the
list.
A
D
My
name
is
Derek
stetter,
my
wife
and
I
own
property
at
169,
Cherry,
Point
Road
I'm,
here
to
comment
on
not
to
recommend
the
approval
of
the
rezoning
requests
for
the
71.54
Acres
located
at
1691.
Okatee
Highway
I've
been
to
two
planning
board
meetings
which
were
very
educational.
For
me,
however,
the
infrastructure
for
this
proposed
Community
is
not
there.
Yet
the
streets
are
over
taxed,
the
schools
are
over
taxed
and
the
rezoning
request
requires
I
believe
a
minimum
either
of
150
or
170
Acres.
D
They
want
to
put
419
dwelling
units,
71
Acres
that
doesn't
include
roadways
or
any
circulation
in
that
area,
or
even
commercial
up
front,
which
is
completely
unreasonable,
completely
unreasonable,
so
I'm
not
sure
why
we
continue
to
have
to
go
through
these
circles
and
I.
Don't
for
the
life
of
me
can't
understand
why
the
planning
department
continues
to
recommend
this
approval,
so
I
urge
you
all
to
not
approve
this.
In
my
opinion,
it
just
it's
a
disservice
to
the
community.
It's
a
disservice
to
the
schools.
It's
going
to
continue
to
cause
problems
down
the
road.
A
Thank
you
all
right.
Next
on
the
list
is
Mr
Chuck,
Newton
and.
E
F
F
I'm
Chuck
Newton
I'm,
chairman
of
the
Sea
Island
quarter,
Coalition
I'm,
a
resident
of
DOTA
Island
in
between
ladies
Island
and
Saint
Helena
I
appreciate
committee's
interest
in
reviewing
this
lack
of
progress
in
implementing
the
ladies
Island
plan,
which
the
County
Council
unanimously
approved
and
adopted
way
back
in
2019..
It
predates
most
of
the
people
here
on
on
this
particular
Council.
F
The
plan
and
the
subsequent
work
required
to
make
this
plan
actionable
has
been
bounced
around
for
four
years.
Despite
our
best
efforts
and
the
efforts
of
full
cooperation
of
many
of
those
who
served
on
the
original
steering
committee,
it
has
not
moved
forward.
During
this
period,
administrators
took
the
position
that
a
we
already
have
a
plan.
B.
We
don't
need
a
more
detailed
plan
and
see
we
can
do
it
ourselves.
F
F
All
Along,
The
Sea
Island
Parkway.
We
have
Patchwork
zoning
t4n
next
to
T5,
Urban,
Corridor
city
of
Beaufort
property
next
to
Beaufort,
County,
property,
contradictory
zoning
on
Building
height
and
permitted
densities.
If
any
place
needed
a
true
master
plan.
Ladies
island,
is
it
as
to
whether,
lastly,
we
were
told
we
could
do
it
ourselves.
Our
view
is
the
County
Planning,
despite
a
well-qualified
staff,
does
not
possess
the
requisite
skills
nor
the
available
time
to
produce
a
full
master
plan.
We
can
do
it
ourselves
as
being
just
another
and
a
long
line
of
stalling
tactics.
F
F
F
That
said,
we're
far
beyond
any
need
to
look
at
the
history
of
ladies
Island
plan.
That's
looking
backwards
what's
needed
is
an
objective
and
a
responsible
analysis
of
growth
and
development
on
ladies
Island
decision
by
the
council
to
help
deal
with
it,
it's
going
to
require
some
funds,
but
way
short
of
a
million
dollars.
F
The
ladies
Island
plan,
we
have
in
hand
provides
a
good
foundation
and
we
will
not
have
to
pay
for
it
again
and
you
will
have
a
partner
city
of
Beaufort
is
willing
to
participate
meaningfully
in
financing
a
comprehensive
plan
for
the
island
All
That
Remains.
Is
that
the
for
this
Council
to
make
ladies
Island
more
of
a
priority
and
less.
F
G
This
was
voted
down
in
August
by
the
Planning
Commission
in
a
vote
of
five
to
two
wasn't
even
close.
This
vote
took
place
after
two
separate
meetings
because
at
the
end
of
the
first
meeting,
the
developer
requested
a
continuance
during
these
meetings.
The
applicants
community
members,
School
the
school
system
and
environmental
groups
were
all
present.
Everybody
viewed,
everybody
aired
their
Viewpoint.
Many
questions
were
asked
and
answered.
G
G
Some
of
their
issues
were
the
impact
on
schools.
We
already
have
a
school
system,
that's
busting
at
the
seams,
we're
looking
at
440
more
units,
70
acre
area,
some
of
which
doesn't
even
include
the
housing
for
these.
G
This
is
on
top
of
the
other
developments
that
are
already
under
construction
in
close
proximity
and
when
those
come
online,
that's
something
we
can't
stop,
but
we
can't
stop
this,
and
by
their
own
admission,
the
people
who
sought
this
rezoning
say
they
don't
have
to
adhere
to
the
plan
that
they
presented
to
us.
They
could
put
a
hotel
in
there
once
this
has
passed
just
as
long
as
it
meets
certain
standards.
What
they
showed
us
in
the
drawings
doesn't
have
to
be
what
they
actually
do.
G
We
have
had.
My
wife
has
had
conversations
with
the
juice
Jasper
excuse
me,
Buford
Jasper
water,
and
they
said
that
they're
struggling
to
meet
the
current
demands.
G
A
H
Name
is
Bonnie
cristolic
I'm
a
resident
of
ladies
Island,
and
have
been
for
about
24
years,
I'm,
also
a
realtor,
so
one
of
my
things
I'm
addressing
is
this
continual
development,
both
residential
and
commercial.
On,
ladies
Island,
we
had
a
meeting
years
ago
at
ladies
Island
Elementary
School,
where
we
were
told
that
things
would
be
done
to
slow
down
the
development
to
do
reasonable
development
as
a
realtor.
One
of
the
comments
I
hear
when
people
come
from
someplace
else
is
this
is
so
great
there's
not
a
lot
of
big
box
things
downtown.
H
H
So
I'm
asking
you
to
think
really
hard
about
sitting
down
and
doing
a
workable
plan
that
can
control
the
growth
both
commercially
and
residential
on
ladies
Island,
because
people
I
know
are
already
thinking
of
looking
at
someplace
else,
so
they
don't
have
to
go
over
the
bridge
and
deal
with
the
traffic.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
Thank.
I
J
I
also
attended
the
two
Planning
Commission
meetings
where
this
was
proposed
and
citizens
talked
Coastal
conservation.
League
several
environmental
groups
spoke
and
the
conclusion
is
pretty
much.
What
how
our
neighborhood
and
our
community
feels
staff
sees
the
place
overlay
as
a
way
to
encourage
development
in
walkable
Urban
nodes,
as
opposed
to
low
density
sprawl.
J
J
Now
we
don't
see
any
infrastructure
progress
because
of
those
two
developments
and
staff
says
they
are
a
part
of
this
overlay
District,
which
blows
my
mind,
an
additional
400
homes.
So,
what's
the
positive
impact
on
our
community
congestion,
water,
runoff,
less
trees,
more
pavement,
more
heat,
our
lifestyle
changes,
our
lifestyle
changes.
J
J
Okay,
this
is
us
all
of
us,
not
just
you
all
of
us.
Yes,
the
applicant
I'm,
a
realtor
and
I.
Looked
it
up
and
I,
don't
know
who
the
applicant
is.
It
appears
it's
not
the
owner
of
the
property
that
bothers
me
bothers
me.
A
lot
I
would
think
that
the
Planning
Commission
made
up
a
very
talented
people,
I
would
think
their
opinion
would
matter.
J
A
A
K
Ma'am
I
am
I'm
Terry
Lasseter,
146,
Cherry,
Point
Road
I've
been
there
32
years.
I
know
a
lot
of
your
faces.
I've
seen
them
for
many
years.
I
have
been
involved
from
the
get-go
with
Comprehensive
plan
Maitland
and
all
when
it
was
originally
done
in
2007-2008.
I
was
also
at
the
meetings.
These
last
two
meetings
and
one
of
the
things
that
was
extremely
disturbing
is
we
cannot
afford
a
traffic
study
because
we
use
a
traffic
study
from
2019.
K
K
I.
Want
you
to
take
a
different
perspective
of
okatee
and
and
look
at
it.
This
way,
Okatie
is
the
center
of
a
hub.
You
leave
here
and
go
to
Savannah
you're
going
through
okay,
if
hardyville
is
going
to
Beaufort
they're
going
through
okatee
Highway
170
is
a
huge
problem,
huge
problem
and
it's
only
going
to
get
worse
accidents.
Bluffton
was
just
in
the
news
about
how
many
accidents
they
have
we're
hearing
it
with
ladies
Island
and
we're
hearing
this
from
several
different
places
in
the
same
county.
K
That
might
be
a
problem
that
might
be.
Someone
needs
to
take
a
good
look
at
that,
and
we
have
now
too
that
Maitland
Bluff
wants
to
put
250
apartments
up
on
170,
also
they're,
trying
to
push
that
through
to
get
rid
of
their
commercial
property.
Trying
to
do
us
a
favor
by
not
putting
any
more
commercial.
K
Up
there,
it's
a
real
problem.
The
river
I
can
tell
you
right
now.
The
VOD
level
is
pretty
close
to
where
it
shouldn't
be.
I
can
tell
you
for
sure
that
the
oyster
beds,
up
by
278.
down
to
Cherry
Point
or
closed,
and
now
they
are
closed
at.
K
All
the
way
to
Bailey's
now,
I
can't
think
of
back
from
there.
I
can't
think
of
the
name
of
development,
but
anyway
they're
closed.
We
cannot
pick
oysters
anymore,
okay,
it's
a
problem.
What
draws
people
to
this
area?
There's
50
land
in
this
County
and
50
50
water,
it's
not
the
land,
it's
the
water,
people,
okay
and
all
this
development,
and
this
new
one
are
going
to
drain
straight
into
the
okatee
river.
There
is
no
check
me
no
Retention
Ponds
on
that
property
for
Rivers
Oaks.
K
A
You
thank
you.
Okay,
one
last
call
for
the
person.
Diane
Rendell
will
close
public
comment
at
this
time
and
move
on
with
the
agenda.
We
have
two
updates
one
from
our
two
assistant,
County
administrators,
who
would
like
to
go.
First,
Miss,
Audra,
okay,
okay,
that's
fine,
Chuck
Atkinson
will
go
first.
L
Foreign
good
afternoon,
I
warned
Audra
that
if
I
went
first,
she
may
not
have
time
to
go
at
all
good
afternoon
to
all
of
you.
I
know
you
had
a
long
day
so
I'm
going
to
keep
this
short
I'm
going
to
give.
You
bullet
point
updates
of
different
projects
and
items
that
we
have
that
are
of
Interest
the
Port
Royal
Library.
L
The
bid
period
for
the
contractor
Services
bid
closed
on
Friday,
August,
25th
and
procurement
received
one
bit:
capital
projects
and
procurement
we'll
be
bringing
the
project
forward
for
council's
approval
at
the
September
25th
public
facilities
and
safety
committee
meeting.
They
will
cover
specifics
at
that
meeting.
Green
Space
committee,
the
Green
Space
Program
ordinance,
received
committee
approval
and
past
first
reading
by
Council
on
Monday
August
14th,
as
required
by
state
law.
L
The
ordinance
was
submitted
to
the
South
Carolina
Department
of
Revenue
on
Tuesday
August,
the
15th
on
Friday
September
1st,
the
county
received
a
letter
from
dor
accepting
the
program's
criteria
as
being
in
compliance
with
applicable,
enabling
legislation.
Second
reading
by
council
is
scheduled
for
tonight,
the
national
flood
insurance,
Community
rating
system,
annual
review
and
three-year
renewal
process.
L
It's
a
little
lengthy,
so
it's
very
technical,
so
bear
with
me,
I
think
it's
it!
It's
something
that
the
public
needs
to
know
about.
The
Beaufort
County
building
codes,
Department
administers
the
County's
floodplain
Management
program,
participates
in
FEMA's
voluntary
Community
rating
system
program
and
maintains
a
very
high,
so
rating
or
building
code,
Effectiveness
grading
schedule
rating,
that's
a
mouthful
which
is
a
rating
that
tells
us
what
a
good
job
we
do
with
loss
mitigation
as
it
relates
to
the
built
environment
and
is
accredited
by
the
international
accreditation
service
and
we
are
updated.
L
L
We
are
confident
that
this
review
will
be
successful
as
it
has
been
in
years
past
and
that
the
county
will
continue
to
receive
flood
insurance
premium
discounts
associated
with
being
a
class
five
community,
Beaufort
County's,
three-year
renewal
cycle
and
site
visit
will
take
place
in
2024..
It
was
originally
supposed
to
happen
this
year
that
the
FEMA
contractor
called
and
requested
that
that
be
pushed
back
a
year.
We
submitted
all
the
same
documentation.
It's
just.
The
site
visit
was
pushed
back
a
year
for
context
on
what
a
good
job
our
staff
do.
L
There
are
12
000,
National
flood
insurance
program
communities
in
the
United
States
of
those
12
000
about
1400,
participate
in
the
voluntary
CRS
program
of
that
1400.
Less
than
100
have
a
class
of
five
or
higher.
That
puts
us
in
the
top
0.8
percent
in
the
nation,
as
it
relates
to
how
well
we
administer
and
document
our
flood
insurance
program.
L
The
reward
of
that
is
that
all
flood
insurance
program
holders
who
are
in
a
special
flood
Hazard
area
receive
a
25
discount
in
their
premium
every
year.
That
is
a
total
savings,
a
direct
savings
to
our
taxpayers,
who
have
flood
insurance
policies
of
over
two
million
dollars
a
year.
That's
something
that
we
are
very
proud
of.
It's
something
we've
been
doing
for
about
15
years
and
we
will
continue
to
participate
in
that
voluntary
program.
A
few
highlights
on
passive
Parks
Whitehall,
the
White
Hall
Park
on
ladies
Island.
L
The
water
service
is
finally
connected
and
it
has
been
the
park,
is
completed
and
is
now
open
and
fully
operational.
The
site's
peer
and
Doc
project
is
currently
out
for
bid
and
we
hope
to
bring
that
contract
forward
very
soon.
Okatee
River
Park
in
Bluffton
that
package,
the
bid
package
has
been
completed
and
we
will
be
put
out
for
bid
later
this
month,
Camp
St
Mary's,
passive
Parks
project,
the
conceptual
planning
process
has
begun
and
the
existing
structures,
Demolition
and
asbestos
survey
project
is
currently
out
forbid.
L
Our
planning
department
I
want
to
give
a
reminder
that
on
our
website
about
halfway
down
the
website,
there
is
a
development
projects,
dashboard
link.
You
click
on
that
link.
The
dashboard
is
up
to
date
and
contains
very
usable
information
relating
to
the
current
development
permit
applications
in
the
unincorporated
parts
of
Beaufort,
County
I
hope
everybody
will
explore
that
site.
If
you
have
any
questions,
please
call
our
staff.
It's
a
it's
a
wonderful
resource.
L
My
last
item,
the
fusky
short-term
rental,
permitting
the
permitting
grace
period
ends
today
close
the
business
September
11
2023,
currently
our
due
date
as
of
2
30.
This
afternoon
we
have
received
21
totaled
to
fusky
short-term
rental
applications.
11
of
those
have
been
approved
and
issued.
Seven
are
under
review.
We've
received
a
number
of
them
end
of
last
week
and
today
three
of
the
total
submitted
were
disapproved
in
accordance
with
the
Str
ordinance.
L
A
C
Leave
a
comment:
I
really
appreciate
the
development
projects
dashboard,
it's
really
a
good
thing
for
residents
to
look
at
to
see
what's
happening
around
them,
where
it
is
in
the
development
phase
and
I
encourage
everybody
to
look
at
it.
You
have
29
Pro
projects
right
now
that
are
active,
but
it's
really
a
good
website.
So
congrats
on
that.
A
Any
other
questions
Port
Royal
Library.
When
do
you
anticipate
possible
conclusion
of
the
contract
so.
L
The
good
award
comes,
we
bring
it
forward
to
council,
it
has
to
go
to
committee
and
Council
for
approval.
L
Once
we
get
approval,
there
will
be
a
lead
time,
for
you
know
the
contractor
to
start
I'm
going
to
go
out
on
a
limb
and
say
it's
about
a
90-day
project,
I'm
hesitant
in
today's
environment,
to
say
that,
but
it's
about
a
90-day
project,
concurrent
with
that
project,
the
ffe,
the
furniture,
the
fixtures
and
equipment
that's
doing
in
the
library,
along
with
materials
to
go
in
the
library
library
staff
are
working
on
securing
all
those
concurrently.
So
hopefully,
at
the
end
of
about
that
90-day
period,
we'll
be.
M
Just
like
to
give
a
brief
update
on
a
few
items
in
the
community
services
last
week,
thanks
to
Laura
Finelli,
we
were
able
to
film
four
segments
with
w-h-I
with
our
alcohol
and
drug
abuse
department
and
our.
M
That
the
department
offers
and
voter
registration
was
just
giving
reminders
of
citizens
of
the
election,
the
general
election
in
2020,
what
you
need
to
do
in
the
human
services
department
as
like
every
year,
we
are
in
the
process
of
the
community
service
program,
the
application,
the
deadline,
closed,
July
28th,
we
received
over
30
applications
and
that
will
go
before
the
panel
and
then
I
am
looking
to
bring
that
before
committee
and
then
Council
for
recommendations.
M
I'd
like
to
you,
know
kind
of
give
kudos
to
the
board
of
voter
registration
elections
to
Beaver
County.
They
have
been
tirelessly
working
on
finding
securing
polling
locations
and
training
poll
workers
for
the
general
election
in
2020
and
as
Eric
Claussen
mentioned
at
the
last
PFC,
the
expansion.
M
M
The
first
thing
was
that
she
hired
a
full-time
counselor,
Mr,
John,
Abney
and
John
Mr
John,
Abney
and
Caroline
Furman
are
now
both
completed
accreditation,
training
at
scdva
and
what
Caroline
is
focusing
on
is
making
it
more
accommodating
for
our
veterans,
so
she
is
working
at
going
to
the
veterans
and
that
will
take
place
north
and
south
of
the
broad.
She
will
have
a
designated
location
in
time,
Bluffton,
Sun
City
and
in
Beaufort.
It.
M
Beaufort
and
Saint,
Helena
and
I
think
that's.
A
M
Really
cooperating.
M
A
M
A
M
A
Like
to
give
a
a
plug
before
we
go
on
to
number
eight
on
Thursday
I
saw
Miss
Fields
here,
Brittany
Fields
made
me
think
about
it,
we're
having
imagined
reimagining
Ribault
Road,
since
we
have
a
lot
of
people
in
the
audience
and
on
TV
it
starts
at
six
o'clock.
Correct,
yes,
okay
and
it's
a
TCO
in
the
student
center
runs
from
six
to
eight
reimagine
Reebok
Road.
Anyone
who
uses
Ribault
Road
this
is
a
very
important
meeting.
You
don't
have
to
live
on,
Ribault
Road
for
it
to
be
important.
A
It's
a
major
artery
for
Northern
Beaufort
County.
This
is
your
chance
to
make
comments.
If
there's
things
you
do
want
to
see
or
not
see
on
Ribault
Road,
and
we
hope
we
have
a
high
participation
from
everyone
at
that.
Okay.
Moving
on
number
eight
is
the
overview
and
background
of
ladies
Island
Village
Center
master
plan
miss
Mr
Chuck.
We
talked
about
this
a
few
been
a
month
ago,
I
guess
or
longer.
A
I
wanted
to
put
this
on
the
agenda
so
that
our
new
council
members
and
those
of
us
who've
been
around
could
get
a
refresher
on
this,
and
this
planning
staff
was
kind
enough
to
do
it
and
we're
going
to
do
a
little
bit
of
review
and
and
what's
and
what's
going
on
on.
Ladies
Island
at
this
at
this
point,
okay.
O
Okay
good
afternoon,
members
of
the
public
facilities
and
land
use
committee
I
wanted
to
just
give
a
quick
background
of
the
ladies
Island
plan
and
the
Village
Center
master
plan
and
the
status
of
implementation.
O
So
in
2019,
the
city
of
Beaufort
and
Beaufort
County
adopted
the
ladies
Island
plan.
This
was
a
area-wide
plan
for
the
islands
and
I
would
say
that
some
of
the
the
things
that
kind
of
spurred
on
this
desire
to
do
planning
for
the
island
had
to
do
with
some
development
that
that
the
community
was
concerned
about
I.
Think
there's
blame
to
go
around
on
both
sides.
I
know
that
there
was
a
lot
of
concern
about
the
Walmart
that
located
on
ladies
Island
and
some
oyster,
Bluff
and
clearance
of
trees
and
different
things.
O
You
know
started
to
create
an
interest
among
citizens
to
see
you
know
whether
there
could
be
more
coordinated
efforts
to
plan
for
the
island.
This
process
for
the
ladies
Island
plan
took
place
over
a
period
of
about
a
year
and
a
half
Guided
by
a
steering
committee.
We
had
public
surveys,
public
meetings
and
then
it
was
adopted
jointly.
O
So,
the
out
of
that
we
put
together
a
ladies
Island
implementation
committee,
because
we,
the
idea,
was
that
we
had
a
very
you
know,
a
kind
of
a
matrix
of
action
items
that
came
out
of
the
plan
and
we
wanted
to
have
a
committee
put
together
really
made
up
of
the
same
people
who
stared
the
steered.
The
process
to
you
know
make
sure
that
the
plan
gets
implemented.
O
O
You
know
the
the
I
think
that
one
of
the
issues
early
on
is
that
there's
never
been
a
funding
source
assigned
to
this
project.
So
you
know,
as
Staffing
this
committee,
we're
always
looking
at
ways.
How
can
we
move
this
forward?
And
so
we
made
in
two
or
2021?
O
We
knew
that
the
projects
that
are
coming
out
of
the
2018
sales
tax,
referent
of
their
40
million
dollars,
allocated
to
Road
improvements
on
ladies
Island,
and
so
one
of
the
things
that
we
looked
at
is
how
can
we
funnel
this
effort
for
Village
Center
master
plan
into
the
design
of
these
road
projects,
and
so
we
had
worked?
The
county
was
already
under
contract
with
stantec
staff
had
worked
on,
providing
a
an
amendment
to
that
contract.
That
would
include
a
planning
portion
working
with
the
community.
O
Looking
at
how
to
take
all
these
Road
improvements
and
making
sure
that
they
were
done
and
coordinated
in
such
a
way.
That
would
further
the
plan
for
ladies
islands
and
benefit
the
community
that
effort
and
we
got
approval
from
at
that
time.
It
was
natural
resources
committee
for
that
approach,
but
the
city
did
not
go
along
with
that.
O
You
know
we
were
looking
at
a
splits,
50,
50
funding
and
so
that
I
that
that
kind
of
died
you
know,
and
so
about
a
year
later,
the
natural
resources
committee
made
a
motion
to
allocate
twenty
five
thousand
dollars
toward
a
ladies
Island
Village
Center
plan.
With
the
stipulation
that
that
funding
was
matched
by
the
city,
the
city
agreed
to
match
that
funding
and
so
is
Staff.
We
work
to
develop
a
scope
of
work,
we
had
a
contract
and
that
was
approved
signed
by
Mr
Greenway.
O
At
that
time
the
city
was
going
to
a
change
in
you,
know,
city
manager
and
planning
director,
so
we
reintroduced
that
to
the
city,
but
at
that
time
you
know
they
decided
not
to
move
forward
with
that
approach.
After
those
two
you
know
we
really
have
not
Revisited
this
plan
and
so
but
I
wanted
to
give
that
background.
You
know
that
there
has
been
an
interest
and
I
think
that
this
is
something
that
there's
there's
both
a
transportation
component
or
public
facilities
component,
because
there
are
a
lot
of
investments
in
ladies
Island
and
road
projects.
O
We
have
passive,
Parks
boat
Landings,
you
know,
and
so
you
know
our
goal
as
staff
was
to
make
sure
that
as
we're
building,
you
know
if
we're
implementing
these
projects
are
done
in
such
a
way
that
these
are,
you
know,
really
complementing
each
other.
These
improvements
and
enhancing
you
know
each
project
kind
of
furthers.
O
The
goal
of
the
plan
and
there's
also
a
land
use
component,
both
the
city
and
the
and
and
Beaufort
County-
have
zoning
that
encourages
the
development
of
a
walkable
community
in
the
Village
Center
of
ladies
Island,
and
so
there's
been
a
concern
that
we've
taken
some
steps,
but
there's
a
lot
of
room
for
refinement
in
making
sure
those
two
zoning
ordinances
mesh
better,
and
so
those
have
been
two
of
the
fundamental
and
I
would
say
that
the
third
one
is
then,
once
all
the
roadway
improvements
are
built,
what
other
opportunities
such
as
interconnectivity,
could
help
solve
the
traffic
congestion
of
the
Iowa
and
make
a
more
cohesive
community.
P
O
It
would
have
been
a
50
000
because
both
the
city
and
the
county
agreed
to
fund
half
of
it
and.
O
That
was
so,
we
had
worked
with
a
firm
called
SGA.
The
the
land
planners
Bill
Eubanks,
he's
done
a
lot
of
work
in
this
community
and
that
plan
was
focused
on
taking
a
look
at
the
the
zoning
of
the
city
and
the
county
and
identifying
those
areas
where
we
you
know
where
we
need
to
kind
of
bring
more
uniformity
in
into
the
the
zoning.
It
was
also
going
to
look
at
some.
You
know
Vision
how
to
take
what
the
zoning
is
intending
to
do
in
in
creating
some
visuals.
P
O
P
O
P
What
and
please
educate
me
on
it
I'm,
you
know
I'm
new
up
here,
but
what
traffic
Studies
have
been
done.
When
was
the
most
recent
traffic
study
done
for
that
area
out
there.
O
Okay,
yes,
stantec
did
their
initial
traffic
study
in
2017
and
that
pretty
much
informed
the
projects
were
part
of
the
sales
tax
referendum
and
that
was
updated.
P
Okay
and
I'm
sorry.
A
P
Is
why
we're
doing
this?
Yes,
so
with
the
with
the
updated
plan
that
incorporated
the
the
sales
tax
I
know
a
lot
of
those
projects.
I
know
people
are
wanting
those
to
get
done.
I
I
have
a
better
understanding
of.
Obviously
the
funding
has
to
come
in
before
you
know,
engineering
and
implementation
takes
place.
P
So
is
there
anything,
that's
been
done
that
incorporates
the
traffic,
the
zoning,
the
design
parameters
and
and
takes
a
holistic
approach
to
the
ladies
Island,
especially
the
Village
Center.
Has
there
been
anything
done
other
than
a
visioning
document.
F
O
It
lays
out,
you
know
it.
Let's
say
that's
a
20
000
foot
view,
but
the
city
and
the
town
both
have
zoning
in
place.
They're
transect
zones,
you
know
so
the
zoning
you
know
land
use
policy
is
designed
to
implement
the
vision.
Now
it
needs
refinement.
You
know,
because
we
have
two
jurisdictions,
they
don't
necessarily
always
mesh.
O
You
know.
So
you
know
it's
it's
almost
like
you
have
all
the
pieces
in
place
and
what
you
need
to
do
is
coordinate
those
pieces
and
you
know,
as
you
said,
you
know,
kind
of
take
a
you
know,
take
a
look
at
all
the
different
components
make
sure
they're
meshinged
together
and.
P
Making
them
that's
exactly
what
I
want
to
get
done
I.
You
know
I
heard
from
our
previous
administrator
that
we've
spent
a
lot
of
money
out
there
in
ladies
Island,
and
he
didn't
want
to
spend
anymore
and
I.
Don't
know
what
money
has
been
spent
out
there
I,
don't
know
what
planning
has
been
done
out
there.
Obviously,
you
know
I've
done
a
little
bit
of
my
own
research
on
that,
but
it
doesn't
necessarily
I
talk
with
constituents.
It
doesn't
necessarily
seem
like
money
well
spent,
so
I,
don't
necessarily
I.
P
Don't
want
to
go,
spend
twenty
five
thousand
dollars
when
we're
leaving
a
lot
of
the
tape.
I
would
rather
scrap
this
and
put
something
together.
That's
going
to
take
that
holistic
approach
and
actually
get
that
that
Master
Plan
The
Village
Center
get
a
cohesive
effort
together.
Look
at
the
traffic,
the
road
improvements
get
the
traffic
off
of
Sea,
Island,
Parkway,
I.
Think
the
last
of
the
previous
Council.
They
had
a
proposed
at
a
wide
and
Sea
Island,
Parkway
and
I
was
campaigning
at
that
point,
and
people
were
up
in
arms
about
that.
P
P
Was
going
to
take
property
away
that
was
going
to
take
parking
away
from
businesses?
I
mean
that's,
that's
part
of
the
reason.
I
think
a
master
plan
is
needed
and
I
just
don't
want
to
I.
Don't
want
to
put
a
Band-Aid
on
a
bullet
wound.
Essentially,
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
doing
this
right
when
we
move
it
forward.
O
O
It's
it's
had
a
colorful
history,
I
mean
this
is
the
so
the
and
I
can
you
know.
Probably
engineering
can
speak
better
to
this,
but
the
plan,
the
original
approach
by
stantec,
was
designed
to
try
to
you
know
you
could
either
address
congestion
by
widening
roads
or
by
trying
to
improve
the
transportation
Network,
and
so
it
was
designed
to
take
as
many
trips
off
of
that
main
intersection
as
possible.
O
The
problem
is:
is
that
each
one
of
those
individual
projects,
then
you
know,
affects
people
and,
and
so
there's
been
revisions
to
to
you
know,
as
we've
been
having
Community
meetings,
you
know
that
so
I
think
engineering
can
speak
better
to
the
the
status
of
that
and
how
how
the
new
you
know
the
revised
projects
work
together,
but
that
was
that
was
the
in
the
original
approach
was
trying
to
improve
the
network
of
streets
so
that
you
know
people
can
avoid
the
main
intersection
or
make
go
to
a
signal
to
get
out
rather
than
trying
to
make
a
left
turn.
A
A
To
do
that
and
that
kind
of
is
it
a
standstill
too.
Is
that
correct,
there's
as
far
as
engineering's
gone.
Q
I
R
R
R
That
was
one
of
the
options,
there's
five
options,
if
I
recall,
so,
basically,
what
we're
doing
currently
with
all
the
other
we're
moving
all
the
other
projects
forward
as
far
as
the
sales
tax
and
that
stand
tax
study.
The
only
thing
we're
doing
on
the
section
of
Sea
Island
Parkway
in
that
area
of
the
high
school
is
we're
just
improving
the
signal
at
Walgreens
and
going
back
towards
the
high
school
to
fit
in
the
taper.
S
I,
don't
know
this
project
as
well,
as
you
guys
do,
because
it's
in
your
area,
you
know
we
all
have
different
expertise
and
things
we
focus
on
especially
closer
to
our
districts,
but
one
thing
that
I've
always
been
big
on
is:
where
are
we
at
and
what
are
we
doing
so
just
for
clarity
of
everybody
in
the
public
and
the
rest
of
us
on
Council?
What
is
the
next
step?
It
sounds
like
we
just
had
a
standstill
right
now.
S
So
what
do
we
need
to
do
at
this
point
to
take
the
next
step,
to
move
something
along
to
start,
making
improvements
or
put
something
together?
I,
don't
know
the
answer
to
the
vision
like
I
said:
it's
not
necessarily
my
expertise,
but
just
same
thing.
We
talked
about
the
super
Penny
when
we
talked
about
it
in
January,
I,
said
cool
boots
on
the
ground.
February
we
started
working,
so
you'd
have
plenty
of
time.
O
H
O
So
it's
it's
really.
You
know
we're
willing
and
staff
to
work
whatever.
You
know
whether
this
is
a
small
project
or
a
big
project,
we're
willing
to
work
within
those
parameters.
But
that's
you
know:
we've
looked
at
this
quite
a
bit
and
so
I've
I
would
say
that
it
would
take
an
action
of
counsel.
You.
S
A
E
And
I
we
represent
Hilton
Head
Island
in
one
of
the
most
strongest
themes
we
hear
is
that
there
never
was
a
master
plan
yeah
so
to
my
colleague,
David
Bartholomew
I
got
to
tell
you
I.
Give
you
a
lot
of
credit
for
pushing
that
if
get
that
done
and
paying
the
money
for
that
would
save
an
awful
lot
at
heartache
and
also
I
I,
don't
know,
I,
think
for
any
more
building
and
all
I
think
a
master
plan
is
the
way
to
go
well.
C
Score
I
have
two
questions:
I'm,
not
sure
Mr,
Merchant
or
Jared
can
answer
it
one.
We
we
said
we
would
give
twenty
five
thousand
dollars
the
previous
Council,
but
the
city
of
Beaufort
said
no.
They
don't
want
to
participate
in
the
contract,
so
I'm
wondering
why
they
said
that,
and
the
second
thing
is
our
second
speaker
today,
Chuck
Newton
said
it's
a
million
dollars
for
a
plan
for
comprehensive
plan
which
is
40
times.
25
000.
are
those.
Can
you
rationalize
that
for
me,
I'm.
O
I,
if
I
can
maybe
editorialize
a
little
bit
so
I
think
the
master
plan.
The
idea
of
a
master
plan
means
something
different
to
each
person,
so
I
think
I
mean
I.
Think
it's
reminding
ourselves.
What
are
the
components,
the
necessary
components
of
moving
forward,
and
so
you
know
defining
that
and
then
figuring
out.
Is
this
a
fifty
thousand
dollar
project
to
200
000
project?
O
You
know
being
able
to
come
back
with
with
some
sort
of
recommendation
that
way,
but
I
do
think
and
and
I
I
don't
know
if
I'm
speaking
on
turn,
but
I
know
that
there's
a
that
issue
of
Sea
Island
Parkway
between
the
bridge
and
the
intersection
that
is
on
hold,
but
that's
something
we
do
anticipate
eventually
we'll
pick
up
again.
Yeah.
I
R
Do
you
want
less
traffic
but
less
availability
of
traversing
through
the
area
or
the
better
flow
of
traffic,
but
less
urbanization
and
walking
capacity?
So
it's
and
and
that
sure
it
we've
got
as
far
as
we
could,
with
the
transportation
before
we
couldn't
come
to
a
solution
on
Transportation.
So
to
your
point,
is
this
the
right
solution?
R
To
put
it
all
together,
we've
got
different
components:
it
possibly
is
I'm
not
sure.
What's
the
difference
on
the
on
the
city
Side,
whether
they
would
support
this
or
not
I
think
I
think
there
probably
is
support
as
far
as
the
cost,
whether
it's
50
000
or
a
million
I
can
fairly
confidently
say
that
it's
not
budgeted.
B
Listening
to
everyone,
it
looks
like
we
have
a
plan
that
may
have
flaws
in
it
and
in
order
for
us
to
move
forward
with
a
referendum
that
comes
up
in
2024
to
address
issues
in
the
various
areas
around
I
think
we
need
a
collaboration
between
the
city
of
Beaufort
and
the
county
to
talk
about
this
plan
and
what
it
needs
so
that
we
can
instruct
the
community.
If
this
is
what
the
plan
says,
this
is
how
we
achieve
the
plan.
B
So
you
know
I'm
not
sure
that
25,
000
or
50
000
is
going
to
get
us.
Anything
I
think
we
need
to
have
a
meeting
with
our
counterparts
in
the
city
of
Beaufort
to
lay
out
a
scope
of
what
we
want
as
a
master
plan
like
Mr
Reed
said
and
Mr
Bartholomew
said
so
that
if
we
have
that
kind
of
plan,
we
know
what
it's
going
to
cost
to
achieve,
that
yeah.
R
To
do
the
transportation
side
of
this
well,
it
was
not
conceived
in
that
study
was
the
cost
for
widening
and
right
away
because
there
wasn't
a
sales
tax
envisioned
at
the
time
of
2017..
So
after
we
got
through
that,
we
did
a
full
cost
of
all
the
scoping
of
those
nine
projects,
so
it
costs
around
70
million
dollars.
So
we
knew
we're
short
on
that
project.
We're
moving
forward
on
the
design
on
all
of
them
and
we're
getting
started
on
the
construction
of
some
of
them.
R
Last
year's
sales
tax
committee
before
they
took
new
projects
they
made
in
their
recommendation
to
council.
They
said,
let's
plus
up
the
old
projects
and
make
sure
that
scope
is
fully
envisioned
and
paid
for,
and
and
so
we're
about
to
start
that
process
again
with
a
new
sales
tax
committee
and
we're
kind
of
using
that
as
the
jumping
off
point
last
year's
recommendation.
So
if
the
scope
is
bigger
than
what
was
envisioned
in
the
2017
stantech
study
and
updated
study
in
2021,
then
now
would
be
the
time.
A
For
the
transportation
part
of
it,
so
I
don't
think
we
need
a
motion,
but
just
some
direction.
At
this
point.
Yes,
sir,
you
got
another
question.
S
If
you
would
mind
more
of
a
I
guess,
there's
a
question
since
we
are
just
having
nothing
that
has
an
action
being
taken
unless
there's
a
recommendation
after
a
sense
of
discussion,
I
agree
with
the
chairman:
there
has
to
be
conversation
with
Beaufort.
Thankfully
we
do
have
the
mayor
here
right
now,
I,
don't
know.
If
that's
something.
S
Understand
yeah,
but
one
of
the
questions
was
from
tab
about
the
25
000
on
their
half
I.
Don't
know
if
that's
something
we
could
get
an
answer
for.
Is
you
didn't
get
an
answer
for
that
of
why
Beaufort
decided
not
to
engage
in
that
I.
P
Thank
you
just
one
final
I
I
really
think
this
is
a
wonderful
opportunity
right
now
to
get
out
in
front
of
this.
We
have
White
Hall
Development,
coming
out
there
on.
Ladies
Island,
we
have
reimagined
Revo.
We
have
all
these
stakeholders,
we
have
the
growth,
that's
out
there
in
ladies
Island.
We
can.
If
we
do
it
right,
we
can
make
that
urbanization
happen
on.
Ladies
Island
make
it
usable
given
an
identity,
but
also
protecting
Helena
from
the
growth.
If
we
do
it
right,
we
can
keep
that
rule.
P
A
A
B
It
yeah
that's
the
direction
that
we
should
be
giving
our
staff
to
coordinate
with
the
city
of
Beaufort
about
how
do
we
move
forward
now?
What
can
we
do
jointly
to
ensure
that
any
plan
we
put
together
can
be
a
plan
that
we
agreed
to
and
can
Implement,
because
we
have
the
referendum
coming
up
and
we
may
need
to
put
things
in
that
referendum
based
upon
this
plan.
So.
A
Q
I
A
P
P
A
A
We're
moving
forward
and
we're
going
to
have
an
update
at
the
next
meeting
of
community
services
and
land
use.
Okay,
all.
A
No
use
beating
the
old
dead
horse
right
we're
going
to
go
forward.
Thank
you
all
right.
Moving
on
on
the
agenda
number
nine
anything
else
on
that
recommend
approval
of
an
ordinance
for
a
proposed
text,
amendment
to
article
7
division,
7.4,
section
7.4.50,
public
hearing
scheduling
and
noticing,
in
section
7.4
7-0
public
hearing
procedures
to
clarify
that
public
comment
is
not
taken
for
appeal.
So
this
is
for
appeals
only
to
the
Planning
Commission
or
the
zoning
board
of
appeals
and
Mr
Merchant
you're
gonna,
okay,.
O
Speak
to
that
correct
yes,
and
this
particular
Amendment
came
at
the
recommendation
from
the
you
know:
County
attorney.
O
So
basically,
both
the
Planning
Commission
and
the
zoning
board
of
appeals
hear
appeals
and
when
they
do
that
they
take
on
a
what
they
call
a
quasi-judicial
process,
which
is
kind
of
like
a
miniature
court
hearing,
and
so
when
they're,
looking
at
an
appeal,
they're,
typically
appealing
a
decision
made
by
staff.
So
zoning
board
of
appeals.
That's
a
zoning
decision.
O
O
They
hear
when
it
is
a
Land,
Development
or
subdivision,
and
they
don't
agree
with
staff's
position
when
the
Planning,
Commission
or
zboa
hears
the
appeal
they're
only
looking
at
the
evidence
that
staff
used
in
making
that
determination,
and
so
we
ran
into
some
ambiguity
in
the
language
in
our
ordinance
that
could
be
interpreted,
as
is
allowing
public
comment
when
there
is
an
appeal.
Certainly,
the
public
is
is
welcome
to
attend
the
meeting,
but
they're
not
offering
any
additional
information
that
the
decision
makers
are
going
to
be
using
to
make
their
decision.
O
And
so
the
Amendments
that
you're
looking
at
are
to
provide
more
clarity
in
that,
so
that
that
is
what
you're.
Looking
at
today.
I'd.
A
A
Amendment
rezoning
requests
for
71.54,
Acres,
locate
and
I'm,
not
going
to
read
the
IDS
and
it's
in
the
agenda
located
at
1691
okatee
highway
from
T2
rural
to
T4,
Neighborhood,
Center,
NT3
neighborhood,
using
a
village
place
type
overlay,
PTO,
article
3
division,
four
section
80,
article
7
division,
3,
section
50.,
and
this
will
be
briefed
by
Mr
Merchant,
and
we
I
requested
that
we
do
a
drone
overview,
he's
going
to
run
it
forward
for
that,
but
just
so
that
people
on
Council
and
the
public
can
see
how
this
relates
to
other
areas
and
where
this
property
is
located
at
and
then
we'll
get
into
the
meat
of
the
rezoning
request.
O
Basically,
this
is,
as
you
mentioned,
this
is
a
71
acre
parcel
that
is
located
directly
south
of
Cherry
Point
roads
at
the
intersection
of
Cherry,
Point,
Road
and
170..
So
it
also
is
located
immediately
south
of
okatee
elementary
school
to
give
you
some
idea,
so
it
actually
adjoins
okatee
Elementary
School
across
Cherry,
Point,
Road
and
River
Oaks,
which
is
a
new
subdivision
that
is
going
in.
That
has
approximately
300
units
and
then
River
Oaks.
It
joins
Malon
Bluff,
which,
which
has
about
300
units
so
for
358
I.
O
Think
Martin
provides
you
with
the
exact
numbers
there,
but
I
wanted
to
just
give
a
brief
background
that
I'm
going
to
hand
this
over
to
Mark
Davis.
But
the
proposal
that
is
coming
forward
is
is
unique
that
this
Council
has
not
looked
at
a
proposal
like
this
before,
but
we
have
a
tool
in
our
code
called
a
place
type
overlay
district
and
in
our
comprehensive
plan
in
this
particular
area
along
170.
O
The
plan
calls
for
nodes
of
development
in
more
compact
walkable
communities,
rather
than
having
it
sprawling
along
the
corridor,
and
so
the
future
land
use
plan
actually
identifies
areas
that
you
know.
If,
if
we
were
to
consider
an
upsetting
should
up
soon
in
a
more
walkable
nature,
and
it's
it's
not
a
one-size-fits
all
we
have,
if
you're
out
in
a
rural
area,
we
have
something
called
Crossroads
so
like
in
the
Sheldon
Community
big
Estates,
Gardens
Corner,
those
are
rural
Crossroads
and
we
have
Hamlet
and
we
have
Village.
D
O
O
Property
does
not
it
does
front
a
saltwater,
Inlet
I,
believe
it's
it's
a
marsh
or
a
very
small
Creek,
but
the
Cherry
Point
subdivision
is
actually
on
the
okatee
river.
O
So
a
typical
rezoning,
we
look
at
a
change
from
one
District
to
another.
You
know
if
there's
Zone,
T2
rural,
they
want
to
ReSound
to
c
3
or
C4,
and
really
we
are
required
to
look
at
even
if
they
have
a
particular
particular
development
in
mind.
We
have
to
look
at
all
the
things
that
that
District
permits,
because
if
you,
if
you
Zone
your
your
property
and
it's
a
commercial
mixed-use
District,
we
can't
really
place
any
additional
conditions
on
that
rezoning.
O
So
somebody
is
entitled
if
it's
supported
on
the
land,
to
do
whatever
that
swimming
District
allows.
What
this
does
is
the
place
type
overlay
recommends
kind
of
a
range
of
districts
to
be
adopted
in
an
area,
so
Village
Place
type
is
going
to
have
some
more
dense
development
at
its
core
and
then,
as
it
goes
further
away
from
that
core,
it's
going
to
get
less
dense,
and
so,
when
it
is
adopted
on
the
map,
it'll
appear
as
different
districts.
You
know
so.
O
They'll
have
T4
Hamlet
Center,
let's
say
at
the
center
it
may
taper
down
to
T3
neighborhood
and
then
T3
Hamlet
neighborhood
as
you
get
further
away
from
the
center.
But
it's
in
addition
to
the
just
the
straightforward
zoning
districts.
This
also
requires
the
adoption
of
a
thoroughfare
plan
or
a
roads
plan
for
the
for
the
neighborhood.
O
It's
it's
something
that
provides
a
little
more
Surety
in
how
it
is
implemented.
You
know
versus
just
the
straightforward
rezoning
I
wanted
to
give
that
background.
You
know
as
Mark
moves
forward
in
our
comprehensive
plan
for
this
area.
It
recommends
this
type
of
up
soon
and
so
is
Staff.
You
know
we
that
you
know
when
you
look
at.
Why
is
Staff
supporting
this?
Well
we're
going
to
the
Landy
Smith
land
use
plan
in
the
comprehensive
plan
where
it
you
know
it
outlines
this
as
a
village
place
type
and
then
implementing
it
through.
O
O
It
was,
it
was
five.
A
A
Previously
in
the
applicant
came
back
with
this
plan
based
on
the
previous
people,
they
were
postponed
so
and
then
they
came
back
with
this
correct.
O
O
I
mean,
if
you
have
any
kind
of
broad
I
mean
Mark
will
go
into
the
details
of
the
plan.
But
if
you
have
some
kind
of
like
broad
policy.
B
I
do
yes,
okay
comments
were
made
by
individuals.
The
first
one
was
that
this
is
71
acres
and
you
can't
allow
what
they
want
to
propose
here,
because
you
need
a
minimum
of
150
acres.
Is
that
accurate.
O
Well,
so
the
the
plan
says
that
a
village
at
a
minimum-
you
know
if
you're
you
have
a
village
place
type,
it
should
be
71
Acres.
But
when
we
looked
at
contiguous
developments,
okatee
Elementary
School
and
River
Oaks,
we
saw
this
as
a
component
of
this,
this
larger
Village,
and
so
that
is
how
we
interpreted
that
as
staff.
B
O
Well,
it's
being
controlled
through
I
mean
part
of
it
would
be
the
open
space
plan.
They
have
their
buffers
and
open
space
along
tidal,
Creek
that
runs
on
the
south
side
of
the
property.
In
addition,
they
have
to
follow
our
soloco
storm
water
manuals,
so
water
will
be
treated
to
pre-development.
O
You
know
runoff
at
post
development,
so
I
mean
those
all
of
those
things,
including
our
River.
Buffers
are
designed
to
minimize
the
impact
of
storm
water,
so
that
that
would
be
how
we
would
be
mitigating
the
development.
B
L
T
There's
been
one
and
there's
been
some
traffic
study
and
some
improvements
that
have
been
suggested
based
on
those
we
can
get
into
that
more
so
I
believe
our
engineering
Department's
here
to
answer
any
more
detailed
questions
in
that.
But
once
we
get
into
the
plan
we
can
jump
into
that
stuff.
O
B
And
I
do
know,
because
I
do
live
in
that
area,
that
the
the
oyster
beds
have
been
closed
due
to
D
hat
coming
down
and
saying
that
there
is
a
problem
here
and
we
know
why
some
of
the
problems
exists
there.
Okay,
that's
what
about
the
schools.
I
O
S
Councilman
Cunningham
just
follow
up
with
one
of
Mr
passman's
question:
I,
don't
think
we
got
an
answer
to
this
first,
one
about
the
number
of
houses
per
square
footage.
Why
it's
being
justified
doesn't
mean
our
normal
code
right.
B
O
O
O
So
what
we're
looking
at
is
circumference
of
plan
says
this
is
a
village
place
type,
and
so,
when
we
look
at
this
development,
this
is
not
a
standalone
Village.
It's
really
building
off
of
adjoining
development
at
you
know
at
okatee
elementary
and
then
also
at
the
River
Oaks
subdivision.
So
the
acreage
of
those
additional
developments
that
are,
you
know,
did
it
join
this.
You
know
that
would
be
you
know
connected
through.
Roads
are
part
of
the
whole.
O
S
Yeah
I
understand
yeah
a
couple
more
questions,
the
other
one
was:
when
do
we
have
a
date
on
that
study
that
traffic
study
I
think
somebody
said
2017,
but
it
wasn't.
B
O
O
Well,
that's
that's
a
question
for
councils.
We
move
forward
so
through
the
this
place
type
overlay,
we
don't
have
a
requirement
for
that.
But
that's
a
you
know:
that's
if
Council
wants
to
move
in
that
direction,
that's
obviously
something
that
could
be
implemented
through
something
like
a
development
agreement.
A
S
S
That
leads
me
to
my
biggest
question
at
all.
We
have
this
exact
same
problem
with
one
lot
north
of
this
on
male
and
Bluff.
It's
currently
trying
to
be
resilient
for
like
the
third
time,
because
they
can't
or
don't
want
to
sell
it
as
commercial
property
yeah,
because
they're
saying
it's
going
to
take
too
long
to
develop,
but
yet
we're
considering
doing
the
exact
same
process
a
mile
down
the
road
south
of
doing
commercial
on
the
front
when
we
can't
sell
a
commercial
property,
that's
right
next
door
to
it.
S
I
think
it's
literally
that
next
block
up
at
the
entrance
of
Mayland,
Bluff
and
Pulte
Homes
did
that
and
the
developer
of
the
front
land
sold
the
back
off
the
polti
and
now
they're
trying
to
change
what
they
originally
planned
when
they
sold
the
houses
as
a
residential
to
come,
and
it
was
supposed
to
be
commercial.
S
They
even
sold
them
golf
cart
garages
to
get
to
the
garage
to
the
commercial
property
now
they're
trying
to
like
do
Workforce
housing
and
apartments
and
then
try
to
add
a
little
bit
of
commercial
into
it
if
they're
having
problems
with
commercial.
What
makes
us
believe
that
this
lot
right
here
is
going
to
have
the
ability
to
sell
their
commercial
property.
The.
C
So,
if
I
understand
this
right,
T2
rural
goes
one
dwelling
per
three
acres.
Yes,
and
if
we're
looking,
this
would
be
six
units
per
an
acre.
Okay.
My
biggest
concern
obviously
is
the
school
there
at
91
capacity
I
understand
if
the
referendum
passes
they're
going
to
build
more,
but
we're
going
to
be
bussing,
kids
all
the
way
down
there
and
as
an
educator
I'm
not
up
for
that,
but
also
Bluffton
Middle
School's
at
84
percent
may
represent
91
capacity.
We're
talking
about
adding
over
400
new
homes.
C
Here
all
I
could
think
about
is
when
I
drive
170
to
come
here.
It
is
a
veritable
nightmare
period.
Now
we're
going
to
drop
400,
more
houses,
I
heard
them
say
50
trips
and
all
this
stuff,
but
I
understand
we're
going
to
do
improvements
on
170,
but
not
that
fast.
So
I'm
concerned
about
the
traffic
on
170.
I'm
concerned
about
the
schools
I'm
concerned
about
the
infrastructure.
I
know
we
have
plans,
but
it's
not
there
vjwsa
and
again.
C
O
C
O
A
T
So
all
the
comments
that
have
been
made
Associated
to
this
everybody's
right
nobody's
wrong
in
regards
to
error
concerns
or
environmental,
their
traffic
their
school.
These
are
problems
that
we
have
about
Canada.
What
we're
bringing
forward
to
you
today,
because
we
received
an
application
to
rezone
the
property.
When
staff
receives
these
have
to
process
them,
we
have
to
bring
them.
What
we're
bringing
you
today
is
an
example
of
a
tool
that
we
currently
have
in
the
toolbox
to
allow
rezoning
and
development
plans
to
be
done.
T
T
You
know
like
usually
you
just
kind
of
approve
a
blank
slate,
and
then
staff
just
goes
through
development
review,
and
then
development
just
ends
up
the
way
it
is.
This
is
not
that
this
is
a
tool
for
the
Planning
Commission
leaders
of
this
County
to
be
involved
in
site
design
of
a
rezoning
at
that
time.
So.
T
So
our
Traffic
Engineers
can
take
those
numbers
and
see
where
they
fall
because
lots
of
times
sometimes
zoning-
you
don't
know
what
you're
going
to
get.
So
we
can
cohesively
do
that
all
at
one
time
the
applicant
can
speak
towards
their
commitments
on
it,
but
staff
would
be
looking
to
implement
something
with
all
of
those
things
in
place.
What
we're
bringing
forward
is
a
tool
for
a
land
plan.
T
You
all
have
to
decide
that
I
just
kind
of
want
to
leave
with
that
go
to
the
can
you
just
go
so
that's
just
kind
of
a
this
is
a
regulated
plan,
so
real,
quick
I'm
going
to
run
through
the
plan.
So
you
can
see
what
they
make
up
of
so
this
is
actually
the
rezoning.
Usually
you
just
see
a
color.
T
T
I
T
T
T
A
thoroughfare
plan
so
again
remember
we're
only
talking
rezoning
at
this
level,
but
this
is
the
details
you
get
so
the
thoroughfare
plan.
You
can
kind
of
see
it's
color
coded
and
you
see
detailed
sections
that
kind
of
specify
Lane
widths,
whether
it's
got
on
street
parking
and
the
type
of
Road
section
that's
associated
to
a
particular
block.
So
a
lot
of
times
in
these
things
we
have
what's
called
block
size
perimeter.
That's
how
you
know
you
keep
something
walkable.
So
all
of
these
have
to
meet
a
block.
T
Size
perimeter,
there's
a
lot
of
alleys
in
there.
So
that's
what
you're
a
thoroughfare
plan,
so
we
know
the
roads
and
the
street
sections
we're
getting
to
serve
that
particular
density
or
that
use
at
that
time.
So,
friends,
if
I'm
on
an
alley
and
I've
got
a
house
fronting
a
street
I
might
want
on-street
parking
on
that
side,
because
that
makes
sense,
that's
a
good
design.
So
these
plans
here
can
give
us
that,
and
as
this,
if
if
it
was
to
get
approved,
they
have
to
build
that
plan.
T
This
is
the
Civic
Spaceball
for
an
open
space
plan.
This
plan
here
details
your
buffers
Civic
space,
your
open
space,
What
types.
If
you
look
at
the
chart
kind
of
gives
you
an
example
of
the
sizes
what
they're
used
for.
So,
if
you
put
all
of
these
together,
you
start
to
kind
of
layer.
It
your
uses,
your
roads
and
your
open
space.
T
T
N
T
Go
back
to
the
sketch
plan
right
there,
the.
T
Closer
to
the
river,
for
instance,
that
would
be
in
the
transect
scale
as
you
get
closer
to
the
road
where
you
can
see
it's
a
little
bit
more
dense.
That
particular
zoning
transect
is
more
dense,
has
more
intense
uses
as
you
get
towards
the
back
lessens
up.
It
would
make
sense
to
program
that
again.
This
is
a
program
that
that's
more
single
family
kind
of
estate
size
Lots,
get
through
that
natural
divide.
T
T
Types
of
housing
now
we,
as
in
our
PTO
right
now,
we're
not
gaining
that
detail
minus
showing
you
the
blocks.
However,
as
a
part
of
this
process,
if
it
was
the
County's
will
for
staff
to
get
into
that,
to
specifically
show
what
kind
of
we're
getting
townhouses
we're
getting
duplexes
where
we're
getting
singles.
So
you
get
that
mix,
and
we
can
do
that.
B
B
T
The
black
lines
yeah
yeah,
so
that
would
be
like
a
multi-use
path
throughout
the
community
and
you
can
see
like
along
Cherry,
Point
Road,
there's
there's
some
things
that
are
labeled
but
yeah.
The
thoroughfare
plan
is
going
to
dictate
your
roads,
your
streets,
your
cross
sections,
and
we
would
also
be
able
to
show
like
multi-use
Pathways,
because.
T
A
T
Good
question
I
mean
I,
knew
the
answer,
but
I
wanted
yeah.
Oh
no
I
mean
I,
wanted
to
be
very
clear
that
one
of
staff's
things
and
yeah
looking
comes
up
here.
We
have
told
them.
This
is
a
regulating
plan
by
the
time
we're
done
with
you
on
this.
If
this
is
something
that
the
county
wants,
it
will
be
locked
tight
between
that
plan
and
the
development
agreement.
Okay,
and
if
they
don't,
if
they
wanted,
if
they
don't
want
to
build
it,
they
don't
have
to
come
back
through
this
whole
process.
T
S
Yeah,
like
the
idea,
looks
great.
It
looks
great
on
paper,
it's
very
enticing
for
us
to
be
a
part
of
a
project,
but
even
if
we
are
a
part
of
the
project-
and
the
idea
looks
great-
it
still
doesn't
solve
any
of
the
issues
that
we
have
outlined
with
the
roads
with
the
traffic
that
the
schools
so
like.
It's
very
enticing
for
all
of
us
up
here
to
say:
oh
yeah,
this
is
a
great
idea
on
paper.
This
could
be
a
great
project
for
us.
We
can
force
them
to
do
Workforce
housing.
S
T
T
T
Does
it?
Is
it
going
to
fix
the
school,
but
what
I
can
say
is
what
the
conversations
we've
had
today
regarding
it
is
that
it
will
improve
Cherry
Point
it'll,
improve
that
kind
of
make
up
for
the
loss
opportunity
to
the
people
who
live
back
there,
they're,
not
wrong
that
road,
and
that
school
should
never
been
placed
on
that
road.
In
that
condition,
we
are
trying
to
help
fix
that
today,
but
if
we
okay.
A
Then
we'll
if
the
applicant
would
like
to
come
forward
state
your
name
representing
the
applicant.
U
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
madam
chairwoman
and
members
of
council.
My
name
is
Kevin
Dukes
I'm,
returning
with
the
law
firm
of
Harvey
and
Baddie
and
I
represent
the
applicant
in
this
matter.
The
applicant
has
been
working
with
the
county
for
a
few
years
on
this,
there
have
been
various
iterations.
This
has
come
through
to
this
process
of
this
place
type
overlay
recently
to
address
a
lot
of
these
things
and
really
to
lock
in
you
know
the
development,
and
so
I
would
like
to
start
by
saying
that
this.
U
We
have
heard
from
the
public
we've
heard
from
the
Planning
Commission
we've
heard
from
Council,
and
we
have
made
changes
all
along
the
way
to
try
to
be
a
solution
to
the
problems
that
are
in
this
area
and
not
to
you
know,
be
seen,
as
you
know,
contributing
to
the
problem.
That's
the
way
it
seems
to
be
portrayed
but
I'm
going
to
go
through
a
few
things
of
how
what
I
mean
by
solution-oriented
development.
Here.
First
we
have
this
Village
concept.
U
We
have
the
higher
density,
which
is
ready,
radiating
out
towards
a
lower,
dense,
section
single
family.
A
lot
of
that
has
to
do.
We
don't
want
to
bump
up
against
the
neighborhood
back
there.
They
will
clear
we
increased
the
buffer
between
this
development
of
the
neighborhood
in
a
direct
response
from
the
public
comment
that
came
out
also
the
diversity
of
housing.
That's
here,
this
Village
Place
type
allows
for
us
to
have
that
diversity
of
housing
that
allows
for
rental
units
we're
going
to
have
be
simple
ownership.
U
There's
going
to
be
multiple
types
of
fee,
simple
ownership,
there's
going
to
be
Town,
Homes,
there's
going
to
be
multi-family
all
fee,
simple,
there's
going
to
be
single
family
so
that
we
can
provide
entry-level
transitional
housing
while
at
the
same
time
having
housing
in
the
back,
which
is
long-term
growth
and
ability
to
create
wealth
and
housing
for
these
individuals
and
and
to
create
a
product
that
we're
all
proud
of
that.
We
want
to
see
that's
a
quality
development,
some
of
those
entry-level.
U
You
know
houses
may
be
achieved
by
not
by
a
reduction
in
quality,
but
rather
by
reduction
in
size
square
footage
building
same,
but
we're
going
to
lower
we're
going
to
reduce
that
we're
also
going
to
provide
Workforce
housing.
There's
a
direct
question
here
about
Workforce
housing,
we're
putting
out
there
that
20
of
the
project
be
Workforce
house
and
I
think
that
we
think
that
that's
significant.
U
We
think
that
there's
there's
a
problem
in
this
County
for
work,
force,
housing
and
we
think
that
that
helps
it
doesn't
solve
the
problem,
not
one
property
owner,
not
one
development
can
solve
the
problem.
Just
like
traffic.
One
of
the
things
we're
proposing
as
part
of
this
development
is,
we
are
proposing
at
our
cost,
to
put
in
an
intersection
at
the
Riverwalk
Boulevard
and
the
new.
The
South
entrance
on
this
development
that'll
provide
interconnectivity
it'll,
allow
residents
to
the
back
to
enter
in
there
and
will
improve
a
very
dangerous
situation
at
Riverwalk.
U
Now
that
is
something
one
of
the
questions
that
the
Planning
Commission
had
is:
okay,
you're
doing
off-site
improvements.
How
do
those
fit
into
the
County's
plan
they
directly
fit
into
the
County's
plan?
That's
what
we're
going
to
build
and
Implement
traffic
improvements,
which
our
engineer,
who
also
is
working
on
the
counties
plan
for
170,
is
part
of
that
long-term
plan.
So
what
I
would
pause
it
to
the
members
here?
U
Is
that
not
only
is
it
being
paid
for
by
the
developer,
but
it's
also
going
to
be
achieved
and
implemented
likely
far
before
it
would
be
able
to
be
done
by
the
county
by
the
time
you
have
the
funding
and
the
approvals
and
the
design,
and
so
we
think
that's
a
positive.
We
think
that
improves
now
mind
you
it's
incremental.
It's
not
going
to
improve
170.,
but
this
project
improves
170
and
improves
the
traffic.
U
P
I
U
But
this
is
not
the
Field
of
Dreams
we're
not
building
it
so
that
they
will
come.
The
children
are
here,
and
this
is
going
to
provide
an
opportunity
for
these
kids
to
walk.
There's
not
going
to
be
the
school
buses.
There's
not
going
to
be
the
drop-off.
This
is
actually
a
better
solution
than
what
we
heard
from
Rob.
That
okatee
has
a
very
large
attendance
area.
That
means
buses.
That
means
expense.
That
means
damage
on
the
roadways.
That
means
stacking
from
parents
all
those
things
that
will
be
better
served
by
this
again.
U
It
doesn't
solve
the
whole
problem,
but
how
many
projects
come
and
actually
present
any
good
solutions
to
the
county,
we're
trying
to
address
in
every
single
area
solutions
to
provide
through
this
process
and
those
have
been
developed
throughout
the
process
in
close
work
with
staff
by
listening
to
the
community
by
listening
to
council
members?
That's
what
we've
tried
to
do
so
I
think
that
hearing
those
things
and
moving
forward,
that's
that's!
What
we're
trying
to
achieve
is
this
solutions
based.
U
U
That's
a
great
question:
I
am
not
an
Ami
Guru,
but
what
I'm
saying
what
I've?
What
I've
we've
talked
about?
This
is
fairly
new
in
our
design,
Sports.
What
we're
going
to
be
putting
out
there.
What
we
want
to
see
is
20
and
that
can
be
measured
in
several
different
ways.
It
could
be
20
of
single
family.
It
could
be
20
of
all
units
that
is
kept
within
a
range
and
that
can
be
determined
before
we
get
to
First
reading.
It
can
be
determined
throughout
the
process.
U
This
is
a
fairly
new
change
to
the
plan
and
we're
still
working
in
that,
but
I
did
want
to
make
that
mention
that
and
we're
willing
to
commit
to
a
number,
but
we're
not
just
standing
here,
saying
we're
going
to
do.
Workforce,
Housing,
Trust
us
I
mean
it's
on
on
video,
you're
20,
that's
20
of
the
units
we
may
determine,
and
you
know
have
been
told
to
look
towards.
Maybe
the
Beaufort
Jasper
Housing
Trust
I,
have
a
call
in
you
know
to
their
director.
U
I've
not
been
able
to
touch
base
with
her
I've.
Just
I
was
just
giving
her
contacts
Thursday
last
week
and
after
called
Friday
and
Monday,
so
I
we're
going
to
work,
try
to
work
with
some
Partners
to
develop.
Some
of
that.
E
U
A
question
of
how
we're
measuring
that,
whether
it's
you
know
both
individuals
in
the
in
the
household
and
then
how
that's
done
and
how
we're
how
we're
going
to
measure
that
against
interest
rates
and
affordability
and
so
I,
don't
I'm,
not
an
expert
on
that
and
and
I
I,
don't
think,
but
we're
certainly
willing
to
answer
those
questions
and
happy
to
answer
those
questions
and
tie
it
to
specifics,
like
that
and
I
think
that
it's
very
important
and
and
Mark's
Wright
he's
been
100.
U
You
know
straight
with
us
that
no
amendments
and
I
will
point
out
that
we
heard
about
Malin
and
that's
true.
That's
the
old
way.
That's
the
Pud!
That's
where
the
developers
came
in
and
said
just
give
me
a
rezoning
of
this.
You
know
this
area
and
that's
where
it
happened,
but
that's
not
what
we're
talking
about
and
if
you
want
to
put
no
amendments
in
there
as
far
as
the
moment
that
can
be
done
and
there's
a
way
to
protect
against
that
so
I
I
would
just
point
out
that
that
is
not
that's.
Q
Q
A
A
This
point
so
so
those
are
the
three
choices.
P
B
A
We
have
a
second
by
councilman
Bartholomew
in
a
motion
by
chairman
passament,
any
discussion.
I.
A
P
A
Wouldn't
I
would
like
to
let
the
applicant
know
that
I
encouraged
all
the
council
members
to
look
at
the
meeting
and
I
know
several
of
them
did
and
I
also
encouraged
them
to
look
at
this
very
carefully,
because
it
is
complex
and
they're
probably
going
to
have
more
questions
for
staff,
no
matter
what
happens
right
now,
if.
C
U
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
didn't
miss
it
and
to
the
point
about
staff,
I
mean
we
we
will
meet
with
staff
and
I.
Think
part
of
getting
it
to
council
is
obviously
we
have
to
be
prepared.
We
have
to
give
specifics
at
first
reading
because
that's
obviously
a
big,
a
big
vote.
So
that's
where
I
think
we
work
with
by
Jim
mcellen
and
on
some
of
those
details
so
that
we
can
get
the
details
that
might.
A
S
A
It
all
right
next
on
the
agenda
is
recommend
approval
of
an
ordinance
changes
to
chapter
38,
Article,
2,
trash
and
litter.
L
Man,
hello
again,
so
this
is
a
housekeeping
item
in
August,
Mr
Desai
came
forward
and
offered
amendments
to
chapter
62,
Solid
Waste.
This
is
to
backfill
that
and
make
sure
that
the
trash
and
litter
portions
in
chapter
38,
Article
2
match
what
was
done
and
we
do
the
same
updates
as
far
as
terms
definitions,
scope,
procedures
of
enforcement
and
by
and
update
penalties
under
soccer
Carolina
code
of
laws
matches
the
two
orders.
That's
what
we're
doing
with
this
so
move.
C
Have
a
question:
you
have
a
discussion:
okay,
yeah!
So
I
always
love
to
read
these
because
I
learn
new
things.
Whatever
producible
waste
is
and
rank
vegetation,
but
here's
my
question:
how
it's
a
big
long
thing:
how
do
we
notify
residents
of
these
changes
and
the
fact
that
we
are
increasing
the
fine
could
go
up
to
500
I
mean
I?
Think
we've
got
to
tell
residents.
How
do
we
do
that
when
it's
so
much
language
sure.
L
So
I'll
go
through
it
as
quickly
as
I
can
our
process
for
enforcement
is
multi-layered.
The
first
thing
that
we
do
as
code
enforcement
employees
is,
we
notify
the
customer
about
the
issue
and
we
help
them
find
a
solution
to
cure
it.
We
don't
just
automatically
write
tickets
and
take
people
to
court,
so
the
first
portion
of
what
we
do
in
Code
Enforcement
is
education
and
more
education.
L
So,
as
this
goes
out,
obviously
this
is
a
public
meeting
it's
out
there,
but
individuals
will
be
given
the
opportunity
to
cure
this
as
part
of
a
notification
process.
Before
we
cite
penalties,
the
penalty
actually
is
defined
by
South
Carolina
code
of
laws
and
we're
just
making
them
match
is.
This
has
not
been
updated
since
1982,
okay,
so.
P
P
Question
just
real
quick
question:
I'm
sorry:
now
we
gotta
get
living
as
far
as
code
enforcement
entering
the
property.
Is
there
a
court
order
to
do
so
or
how
does
that?
When
does
that
come
into
play?
No.
L
So
that
falls
under
search
and
seizure
laws.
Typically,
what
we
do
is
if
we
can
observe
it
from
the
public
way
the
the
plants.
L
That's
right
and
and
the
way
we
view
that
the
way
we're
trained
to
do
that
is,
we
can
go
wherever
the
UPS
guy
goes.
So,
if
there's
a
pathway
to
the
front
door,
we
can
go
to
the
front
door.
We
can
knock
on
the
front
door.
We
cannot
peer
through
windows,
we
can't
go
over
around
fences
or
on
the
neighbor's
second
floor
deck.
All
search
and
seizure
laws
apply
to
everything
that
we
do
Under
the
Constitution
and
we
do
not
violate
that's
my
question.
Thank.
H
A
Forward
all
right,
we
have
to
have
a
motion
to
go
into
executive
session.
We
have
two
items:
one
is
discussion
of
negotiations
incident
to
propose
contractual
arrangements
with
the
regarding
the
Beaufort
Jasper
Economic
Opportunity,
commission
and
the
other
is
discussion
of
negotiations
incident
to
the
proposed
contractual
arrangements
for
dubusky
Island
Dairy
service,
and
there
probably
will
be
matters
arising
out
of
executive
session.
I.
Think
I.
Think.
U
I
I
I
I
I
I
N
N
A
A
Q
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
to
move
the
discussion
on
the
payments
for
the
first
gallon
ferry
that
were
made
in
executive
session
forward
to
County
council.
A
Okay,
thank
you,
Mr
Ross,
councilman
Lawson.
Without
any
discussion
with
no
no
discussion
and
without
any
disagreement
we.
A
B
It'll
probably
take
us
five
minutes
to
change
over
everything.
Foreign.