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From YouTube: Beaufort County Council Public Facilities Committee meeting Monday, October 17, 2022 3:00 PM
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1. CALL TO ORDER
2. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
3. PUBLIC NOTIFICATION OF THIS MEETING HAS BEEN PUBLISHED, POSTED, AND DISTRIBUTED IN
COMPLIANCE WITH THE SOUTH CAROLINA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT
4. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES- September 19, 2022
6. CITIZEN COMMENTS - (ANYONE who wishes to speak during the Citizen Comment portion of the
meeting will limit their comments to no longer than three (3) minutes ( a total of 15 minutes ) and will
address Council in a respectful manner appropriate to the decorum of the meeting, refraining from the
use of profane, abusive, or obscene language)
7. DIVISION UPDATE FROM ASSISTANT COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, JARED FRALIX
AGENDA ITEMS
8. DISCUSSION ON THE FACILITY MASTER PLAN OPTIONS FOR THE LAW ENFORCEMENT CENTER,
ADMINISTRATION BUILDING, AND DETENTION CENTER
9. DISCUSSION ON TRANSPORTATION PLANNING PROJECTS
10. APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION TO SWAP IDENTIFIED PROPERTIES BETWEEN BEAUFORT COUNTY AND THE RURAL AND CRITICAL LANDS PROGRAM IN ORDER TO BUILD AN ADDITIONAL LIBRARY, ADDITIONAL PARKS AND RECREATION FIELDS AND A SOLID WASTE MATERIAL RECOVERY FACILITY IN SOUTHERN BEAUFORT COUNTY
11. CHAIRMAN'S WRAP UP
12. ADJOURNMENT
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Okay,
okay,
well
good,
maybe
one
or
two
will
join
us
as
we
go
forward.
Our
next
item
is
the
approval
of
the
agenda
and
I
kind
of
anticipated.
We
were
going
to
have
a
discussion
on
the
terminal
funding.
So
if,
unless
there's
an
objection,
I'd
like
to
add
that,
as
a
as
a
discussion
item
going
forward,
you
say.
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D
All
right,
thank
you,
sir
chair
and
and
the
committee
just
a
couple
updates
to
everybody,
some
of
the
things
that
don't
always
make
it
to
a
council
agenda
as
far
as
action
items,
so
just
to
keep
you
guys
in
the
loop
of
all
the
things
we're
working
on
inside,
of
the
infrastructure,
Division
and
and
with
capital
projects
now
being
its
own
kind
of
unit.
So
a
couple
of
things:
first,
starting
off
with
Transportation
SC
170,
near-term
improvements.
D
This
is
one
that
I
think
is
near
and
dear
the
most
everybody's
heart
or
anybody
that
drives
on
the
road
in
Beaufort
County
runs
through
170..
So
our
plans
are
in
the
final
review
for
that
they're.
Currently
with
DOT.
We
are
working
internally
on
our
bid
package
for
that
with
with
our
engineer.
So
as
soon
as
we
get
the
comments
back
from
dot,
we'll
finalize
those
incorporate
those
into
the
plans
and
put
those
projects
out
to
bid.
D
So
our
goal
is
that
we
put
that
out
the
bid
in
the
coming
weeks
and
we
get
a
Contractor
on
board
by
the
end
of
the
year
first
of
next
year
and
get
started
soon
thereafter.
So
again,
we're
we're
anticipating
about
a
six-month
window
for
those
improvements
and
just
a
reminder
what
those
improvements
are
for
this
project
on
the
near
term,
not
the
long
term,
but
the
near-term
project
is
work
at
the
intersection
at
170
and
Oakley
Boulevard
South.
So
that's
south
of
278
near
the
Food
Lion
entrance
specifically
work
there
at
278
interchange.
D
That's
where
the
biggest
hinge
point
is
right
now,
as
we're
all
aware
of
improvements
at
Thai
watch
intersection,
Cherry,
Point,
intersection,
Arjun,
Boulevard,
intersection
right
there
we'll
be
adding
a
second
turn
lane.
So
if
you're
coming
off
of
Argent
heading
north
on
170
We'll,
add
a
second
turn
lane,
so
we'll
have
two
left
turn
lanes
and
redo
the
phasing
of
that
signal
to
give
more
time
for
that
and
then
lastly,
improvements
at
462.
D
So
right
now,
there's
a
signal
already
that's
been
implemented
over
the
last
year
or
so,
but
we're
going
to
try
to
extend
that
that
turn
lane,
so
people
can
get
out
of
the
Fast
Lane
as
well
as
re-time
that
with
the
work
included.
Additionally,
what
we've
been
successful
is
working
with
dot
dot,
had
a
resurfacing
project
planned
in
the
area
on
278
in
between
170
and
the
Okatie
river
bridge
that
first
Bridge
there.
D
It
was
originally
scheduled
with
our
project,
but
then
through
their
workflow,
got
pushed
out
a
year,
but
we've
coordinated
back
and
Craig
or
not
Craig
Craig
Gordon
has
been
helpful
in
coordinating
that
with
Dot
and
they've
said.
Okay,
you
guys
will
will
move
our
schedule
back
up
and
rejoin
it
with
you
and
we
looked
at
whose
project
was
going
to
be
bigger.
Ours
are
theirs
and
we
put
it
to
their
to
whichever
project
was
biggest.
D
Our
project
is
going
to
be
bigger,
so
they're
going
to
fold
their
resurfacing
work
in
with
us
and
we're
going
to
bid
that
as
one
project
so
including
in
our
short-term
improvements.
We're
going
to
be
some
improvements
on
the
on
the
one
off-ramp
278
off-ramp
on
the
170..
Now
we'll
include
all
three
all
four
off
ramps,
as
well
as
the
section
on
278..
What
that
does
for
us
is
if
you're
going
south
on
170
and
you
go
on
the
circle
to
get
on
the
278
eastbound.
D
You
have
to
merge
in
the
traffic
when
we
resurface
it.
We
can
also
restripe
that
and
we
can
convert
that
into
a
merge
into
a
free
flow
Lane.
So
that
will
be
the
introduction
of
the
third
lane
and
then
the
North
170
North
onbound
ramps
to
East
1
278,
currently
has
its
own
lane.
That
will
be
converted
to
a
merge,
so
that
will
flip
those
two
merge
movements
which
will
hopefully
provide
get
rid
of
some
of
the
delay
there
that's
in
introduced.
D
So
anyhow
that
is,
that
is
coming
up
and
again
by
the
end
of
the
year.
We
hope
to
have
a
contract
awarded
to
a
contractor
or
first
of
next
year
and
get
that
started
at
the
first
of
next
year.
Other
Transportation
work
River
Ridge
signal
on
Bluffton
Parkway,
so
this
is
a
signal
that
we've
talked
about
coordinated
with
the
school
district.
We
just
got
started
about
a
week
ago
on
this
project
and
anticipated
it'll
be
about
three
or
four
weeks
before
construction.
D
D
The
Mast
arms
has
a
long
work
order,
as
you
can
imagine
so
that
our
goal
with
that
is
to
get
the
Mast
arms
up
and
the
wooden
poles
down
prior
to
the
next
school
year,
starting
so
another
signal
in
the
works
is
windmill
Harbor
signal.
So
this
came
out
at
278
on
the
corridor
project.
Can
we
get
this
started
ahead
of
time?
We
send
a
letter
to
the
state
and
they
replied.
D
Yes,
we
allow
this
we've
initiated
design
on
that
and
had
a
kickoff
meeting
last
week,
so
that
project
is
moving
forward
into
design
full
steam
ahead
and,
lastly,
inside
of
Transportation
kind
of
connected
but
separate
to
278
as
well
as
Hilton
Head
is
moving
forward
on
their
adaptive
signal.
Rfp,
we
are
reviewers
we're
incorporated
into
that.
D
If
anybody
has
any
questions,
I
know
I'm
talking
fast.
So
if
you
have
a
question,
feel
free
to
jump
in
capital
projects
again.
This
is
something
now
that's
kind
of
out
of
my
umbrella,
but
Eric's
kind
of
leading
the
charge,
but
just
an
update
on
a
couple
things.
The
public
pool
in
Bluffton
has
the
roof
where
it
has
been
completed
and
I
think
is
opening
up
this
week
with
service,
so
we'll
have
it
open
back
up
to
the
public
this
week
with
service
out
of
that
pool,
so
the
Arthur
harm
building
just
next
door.
D
D
The
engineering
department
is
going
to
move
from
our
spot
on
Boundary
Street,
the
old
United
Way,
building
into
the
old
Viv
building
that
it
is
vacating
and
then
from
there
we're
coordinating
with
the
city
of
Beaufort
to
demo
both
that
building
the
old
Wendy's
building,
which
you
probably
saw
some
silt
fence
around,
as
well
as
the
old
Arthur
horn
building.
So
all
those
three
buildings
will
be
demoed,
we're
working
with
the
city
of
Beaufort
on
that
to
get
that
work
done
and
then
city
of
Beaufort
is
I.
D
Think
already
reached
out
to
Stephanie
as
far
as
looking
at
making
some
passive
Park
improvements
on
that
section
on
Boundary
Street,
so
that
whole
side
from
the
old
Applebee's
all
the
way
to
the
cemetery
will
be
nothing
but
an
open,
open
Vista,
as
you
drive
into
town,
so
excited
about
that
one.
As
far
as
Public
Works
goes,
We've
started,
RFQ
out
for
the
design
of
the
new
Public
Works
building
out
on
Shanklin.
D
That's
part
of
the
facility's
master
plan,
which
we'll
talk
more
about
in
a
moment,
but
we've
got
that
out
for
architectural
and
engineering
and
moving
forward
with
that.
As
far
as
Disaster
Recovery
we're
thankful,
the
storm
didn't
have
any
that
it's
over
and
we
didn't
sustain
any
major
damage,
but
it
was
absolutely
a
great
practice
run
for
us
in
Disaster
Recovery.
We
did
some
things
really
great
other
things.
D
We
need
to
work
on
and
some
improvements
so
we're
doing
an
after
action
review
right
now
internally
and
going
to
make
sure
that
we're
going
to
be
as
prepared
as
possible
for
any
future
events,
Shell
Point
drainage.
So
we
hosted
a
meeting
last
week
in
the
Shell
Point
area.
On
this
project
it
was
well
attended
and
well
supported,
we're
making
good
progress
on
the
overall
design
and
that
project
continues
to
move
forward
as
far
as
airport
to
public
service
announcements.
So
as
of
this
weekend,
we
are
hosting.
D
Is
it
the
second
or
third
third
annual
flying
frog
5K?
So
this
is
the
race
out
at
the
Beaufort
Executive
Airport
it's
on
the
runway,
so
the
airport
will
be
shut
down
for
the
period.
It
starts
immediately
at
eight
o'clock,
so
they
can
get
the
runway
back
started.
So,
if
you're
going
to
take
longer
than
an
hour,
you
need
to
watch.
The
plans
are
coming
above
because
they're
going
to
start
Landing
as
soon
as
they
can
get
it
open.
But,
needless
to
say,
you
can
still
apply
go
online
if
you
want
to
participate.
D
This
is
the
last
of
a
three
race
series,
I
believe,
so
there
will
be
some
medals
not
only
for
this
race,
but
also
for
the
series
race.
So
hopefully
it's
going
to
be
a
great
event,
as
it
has
been
in
the
past.
Also,
with
the
airport
coming
in
November
at
the
Hilton
Head
airport,
there
will
be
an
event
taking
place
on
November,
4th
and
5th.
D
This
is
the
Hilton
Head
Allen
Motor
event,
so
in
addition
to
seeing
cars
and
Motors
classic
cars,
there's
also
an
airplane
portion
which
will
be
visible
there
at
the
airport
on
those
two
days.
So
if
you
want
more
information
about
that,
you
can
check
it
out
at
the
go
at
the
motor
event
website
there
to
take.
Take
part
of
that
event.
So
that
is
everything
I
have
and
if
you
got
any
questions.
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A
D
Excited
I
think
170.
We've
got
I'm,
also
working
on
a
a
plan
for
and
we'll
get
into
this
in
just
a
second
too,
but
getting
on
to
a
plan
for
the
greater
triangle
project
that
we
mentioned
before
and
trying
to
come
up
with
a
an
approach
that
works
for
the
region.
A
regional
approach,
not
just
us
working
by
ourselves.
D
Yeah,
so
really
not
doing
any
asphalt
work
there,
it's
just
re-strapping,
so
we're
going
to
use
the
existing
footprint
and
then,
if
you've,
driven
up
there
there's
a
lot
of
turn
lane
availability
and
capability,
so
we'll
take
advantage
of
everything.
That's
there
and
restripe
it.
So
it
shouldn't
take
long,
we'll
work
with
the
contractor
as
soon
as
they
get
awarded
I
think
there's
going
to
be
spots
that
they
can
get
started
right
away,
and
that
would
be
one
of
them.
That
comes
to
mind
for
me.
D
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A
D
Sir,
all
right
absolutely
so,
as
mentioned,
we
started
this
process
off
about
a
little
over
a
year
and
a
half
ago
in
2020
and
in
the
2021
we
made
final
presentation,
the
Consultants
did
in
October
2021.
They
came
with
the
whole
Entourage
as
far
as
everything
that
was
studied,
they
did
a
space
needs
analysis.
What
do
we
have
now
level
of
service?
What
are
we
going
to
need
in
the
future
over
the
next
30
Years,
to
be
able
to
provide
continuation
of
service
and
adequate
service
to
the
citizens
of
Beaufort
County?
D
So
with
that
out
of
the
space
needs
came
out?
Well,
how
much
property
do
we
need?
How
much
space
do
we
need
per
per
building
and
Suite
of
buildings,
which
then
came
the
facility's
master
plan
so
out
of
that
facilities
master
plan,
there
was
basically
three
major
study
or
three
major
site
plans
that
were
developed
here
for
this
campus.
There
was
also
some
auxiliary
buildings,
the
the
EMS
headquarters,
Public
Works
Shanklin,
the
Murph
building
and
a
couple
other
accessory
buildings
that
weren't
necessarily
included
in
the
site
plan
but
but
spread
out
throughout
the
campus.
D
Those
were
kind
of
the
peripheral
projects,
so,
as
you
recall,
we've
we've
initiated
some
of
the
engineering
and
architecture
on
on
two
or
three
of
those
three
or
four
of
those
projects
and
where
we
are
now
as
a
staff
is
in
order
to
move
forward.
We
need
information
back
from
Council,
so
we've
talked
about
it,
but
there's
really
hasn't
been
any
decision
making
and
we
don't
per
se
need
decision
making.
Today
we
just
need
direction.
D
We
need
direction
on
a
couple
of
those
parts,
so
we
can
solve
this
just
Excel
puzzle
so
with
that
I'll
kind
of
go
through
the
site,
plans
and
kind
of
key
it
up
and
then
offer
it
back
to
you,
councilman
Rodman,
for
discussion
purposes
if
that
works.
Okay.
So
if
we
can
put
the
first
so
as
we're
pulling
up,
these
three
are
specifically
here
on
this
campus,
all
the
ones
that
we'll
see
are
roughly
the
same
and
when
I
say
roughly
we're
talking
in
in
Mega
Millions.
D
D
So
the
difference
in
the
couple
different
options
and
I'll
describe
them,
and
then
again
we
can
come
back
to
them.
So
the
the
lease
is
around
308
million,
which
is
this
first
option
up
to
330
million
the
other
two
options.
So
we'll
we'll
talk
through
that
I'm
gonna
have
to
do
this
sideways,
so
I
can
read
it
so
this
first
one
the
the
big
difference
on
this
one
they're
all.
First
of
all,
let
me
back
up
what's
the
same
on
all
of
them
as
the
Detention
Center.
D
So,
in
all
the
options,
the
Detention
Center
as
it
needs
for
expansion,
basically
encompasses
the
existing
law
enforcement
center
and
is
rehabbed
to
make
it
fit
its
needs
and
a
little
bit
of
additional
work
to
fill
in.
So
they
can
connect
to
the
other
parts
of
the
existing
Detention
Center.
So
that
is
constant
on
all
three
of
these,
as
well
as
the
courthouse
and
the
new
Arthur
horn
building
those
those
remain
as
constants.
D
D
Additional
parking
may
or
may
not
be
required
depending
on
the
site
plan.
That's
that's
chosen.
Also,
the
existing
art,
the
existing
admin
building
that
we're
in
right
now
gets
repurposed
so
and
I,
guess
that
helps
to
explain
I'm
not
much
on
colors,
but
the
darker
color
is
a
new
building.
A
new
structure
and
the
lighter
color
is
the
existing
building
or
rehab.
D
So
the
existing
admin
building
gets
rehabbed
and
repurposed
for
existing
for
additional
Court
space
and
so
they'll
repurpose
that
one
and
then
the
most
notable
what's
missing
is
the
law
enforcement
center.
So
across
the
street
there
from
the
the
new
admin
building
is
a
potential
area
of
the
relocation
for
the
law
enforcement
center
or
a
various
option
which
I've
got
later
in
the
slides
just
somewhere
else.
This
option
would
need
significant
parking
issues
as
far
as
probably
a
raise
lot
in
this
concern,
so
that
is
basically
plan
one.
D
D
F
D
F
G
F
D
D
This
does
show
the
law
enforcement
center
across
the
street,
so
that
is
located
at
this
location
instead
of
off-site
and
really
the
biggest
difference
on
this
one
is
the
existing
admin
building
is
demolished
and
the
space
needed
for
the
courts
is
added
on
to
the
existing
Courthouse,
so
that
is
kind
of
the
main
difference
on
this
plan
and
again
you
can
see
back
over
at
the
law
enforcement
center.
Some
potential
parking
and
expansion
needs
over
there.
D
So
not
a
lot
different,
but
just
a
couple
tweaks
there
and
then
lastly,
is
Plan
Three,
so
this
one
is
keeping
the
admin
building
where
it
is
and
renovating
it
and
making
an
addition
to
the
north,
and
that
is
all
the
new
law
enforcement
center
then
across
the
street
is,
would
be
the
new
admin
building
and
then
the
courthouse.
The
addition
to
the
courthouse
is
the
public
is
the
is
the
additional
Court
space
needed
as
an
existing
or
add-on
to
the
existing
Courthouse.
D
D
One
thing
not
discussed
at
the
time
of
this
report
is
the
admin
building
billion
anywhere
else
in
the
county.
The
next
slide
does
show
the
law
enforcement
center
being
elsewhere,
so
this
is
kind
of
back
to
slide
one.
The
the
first
option
showed
that
the
law
enforcement
center
could
be
across
the
street
or
elsewhere.
This
is
the
or
elsewhere,
so
this
site
is
actually
next
to
the
Animal
Hospital.
This
is
for
site
plan
purposes,
only
that
that
site
is
real
critical
lands
property,
but
just
to
give
you
the
the
space
and
the
logistics.
D
So
it's
looking
for
somewhere,
more
Central
and
Regional
or
Central
to
the
region
and
and
the
county
and
about
10
to
15
Acres.
So
this
would
be
a
law
enforcement
center
all
by
itself,
so
it
has
everything
that
would
it
need
to
function
and
all
the
different
components
of
law
enforcement
center
would
be
Consolidated
into
this
unit.
D
So
this
on
its
own,
is
about
110
million
112
million
dollars.
If
you
subtract
that
from
the
first
site
plan,
you
have
about
194
million
minus
the
law
enforcement
center
off
site,
so
you
put
those
two
together
and
you
get
to
about
the
308.
So
again
that
was
out
of
all
of
them,
they're
fairly
close
in
value,
20,
20
million
or
so
10
percent,
so
they're
they're,
relatively
close.
So
this
is
the
preference
of
what
we
need
counsel.
So
we
don't
necessarily
need
the
exact
location.
D
What
we
need
from
Council,
whether
it's
today
or
subsequent
conversations,
is
Direction
on
how
to
move
forward
with
two
components,
specifically
the
law
enforcement
center
and
the
admin
building,
and
from
that
we
can
come
back
and
say:
okay
well,
next
step
is
this
filing
stuff?
Is
that
and
move
forward
and
come
with
the
implementation
plan?
And
then
the
funding
element,
the
actual
location
of
the
admin
building
or
the
actual
location
of
a
office
site
law
enforcement
center
is
not
what
we
need
discussion
on.
D
H
D
D
So
I'll
list
as
much
as
I
can
based
off
this,
so
they
have
forensics
evidence,
drive-through,
vehicle
processing,
em
bunk,
with
the
law
enforcement
center
command
and
Patrol
covered
storage,
the
Tactical
Fleet
warehouse
and
all
the
administrative
functions.
I
think
the
only
one
that
was
not
considered
is
the
sled
agency,
where
they
have
their
own
building
off-site
already
on
170.
I.
Think
all
other
functions
in
the
sheriff's
realm
would
be
encompassed
into
this
unit.
In
this
building.
G
D
G
D
So
the
admin
building
is
on
the
on
the
right
side
there.
So
it's
75
000
square
feet
and
then
there's
some
parking
spaces
that
would
be
encompassed
on
the
existing
site
and
then
they
would
their
I
guess
the
site
below
the
the
one
parcel
would
be
an
additional
52
spaces.
I
think
that's
what
that's
reflecting.
D
D
So
the
one
thing
that's
not
considered
in
any
of
all
these
is
the
the
admin
being
off-site.
So
if
law
enforcement
center
was
off
site
and
admin
Center
or
off-site,
you
would
have
the
max
flexibility.
Another
thing
that
wasn't
considered
is
a
Regional
Detention
Center.
So
out
of
all
these
options,
no
matter
what
happens,
the
Detention
Center
is
the
last
one
to
move,
because
it's
two
or
three
steps
before
it
can
expand.
The
law
enforcement
centers
got
to
be
built
or
constructed
or
a
rehab.
A
A
D
A
A
The
option
costs
are
similar
overall,
including
everything's,
probably
more
on
the
order
of
400
million,
and
if
we
look
at
the
current
inflation,
it's
probably
pushing
half
a
billion,
but
whatever
we're
going
to
do,
if
probably
timely,
to
consider
what
we're
going
to
do
for
the
land
funding
facilities
is
a
little
more
difficult
than
other
things
like
Transportation
projects,
not
a
lot
of
Sizzle
for
the
the
public.
So
it
can
be
a
bit
problematic.
A
I
A
The
way
the
numbers
in
parentheses
are
the
square
footages
and
thousands,
the
it
has
the
new
administration
building
and
the
old
administration
building
being
remodeled
and
turned
over
to
judicial
option
two
as
the
new
LEC
at
the
to
be
purchased
intersection
of
boundary
and
rebuild
across
the
street
and
as
the
new
administration
building
and
it
has
the
courthouse,
Edition
and
option
number
three
has
a
the
new
LEC
on
campus.
The
admin
building.
A
Goes
to
the
I,
let's
figure
out
where
it
goes,
but
anyway
anyways
there's
a
the
new
administration
building,
I'm
sorry
yeah.
The
admin
building
as
Jared
said
that
that
becomes
been
part
of
the
LEC
on
site
law
enforcement
center.
Then
the
admin
building
would
be
across
the
street
on
the
to
be
acquired
and
there'd,
be
the
new
courthouse
Justin.
So
a
lot
of
moving
pieces,
but
by
and
large
those
are
what
the
pieces
are.
So
number
three
is
kind
of
a
by
the
Numbers
type.
A
Look
at
the
at
the
campus
and
just
to
kind
of
run
down.
The
page
option
number
one
about
195
million
for
the
work
on
the
campus
113
for
the
work.
If
the
LEC
went
off
campus
and
then,
if
you
add
up
all
the
miscellaneous
stuff,
that
is
also
in
the
plan
that
are
beyond
the
campus,
that's
about
another
72,
so
that
takes
us
to
about
380.
A
A
A
Interestingly,
if
you
divide
the
number
of
parking
spots
by
this
square
footage,
you
get
the
number
of
parking
spots
per
square
foot
or
per
thousand
square
feet,
and
that,
in
that
example
of
option
one
that
would
actually
go
down
compared
to
what
we
have
today
in
terms
of
available
space
option,
two
same
type
of
thing,
except
the
lec's
on
campus
right
around
400
million
and
if
you
add
591,
000
square
feet
on
the
campus
and
option
three
same
kind
of
calculation.
You're
in
the
384.
A
A
Okay,
the
next
item
next
page
foreign,
just
a
listing
of
all
the
other
projects
that
are
in
the
facilities
plan
in
Government,
Center,
South
and
Bluffton,
and-
and
you
can
see
the
dollar
amounts
that
are
kind
of
listed
in
descending
dollar
amount
and
Square
footages
are
are
showing
there
but
includes
the
public
works.
That
Jared
mentioned
that
we're
getting
ready
to
go
out
to
bid
for,
because
there's
a
special
op
site.
A
We
got
the
solid
waste
sustainability,
campus
EMS
station
upgrading
Human
Services
in
the
building
not
too
far
from
here
we've
got
the
courthouse,
which
is
underway
a
little
bit
of
money
in
Hilton
Head
for
their
government
center
and
whatever
we
do
with
the
restaurant.
So
it
strikes
me
that
these
are
additional
ones.
A
But
it's
a
pretty
comprehensive
list,
and
this
is
what
a
30-year
looks
say,
I
think,
looking
out
as
to
all
the
things
we
need,
I
thought
it
was
pretty
good
study.
Actually,
I
thought
it
was
very
good,
very
good
study
that
they
put
together
page
five.
This
is
the
funding
considerations
and
it
strikes
me.
Yeah
I
could
find
the
H5.
A
So,
as
I
said
earlier,
I
think
this
kind
of
funding
can
be
kind
of
difficult
because
it
stretches
beyond
our
eight
percent
borrowing
capacity
and-
and
it's
also
something
that's
not
all
that
exciting-
to
go
out
to
the
public.
You
know
they
can
see
a
need
for
a
road
referendum
and
they
can
see
the
need
for
transportation,
but
let's
say
we're
going
to
build
a
new
administration
building
that
gets
to
be
kind
of
a
tough
sell
going
on
the
referendum
basis
and,
of
course,
there's
no
revenue
for
a
revenue
Bond.
I
A
We
were
looking
at
the
airport,
one
of
the
things
that
came
up
in
discussion
on
multiple
channels
talking
about
Council
and
our
financial
advisor
was
the
ability
to
do
what's
called
an
installment
purchase
and,
as
I
understand,
it
is
basically
mortgage
secured
by
the
facility
itself
and
then
the
annual
mortgage
payment
or
Debt
Service.
If
you
will,
it
goes
into
the
budget
and
gets
approved
each
year,
along
with
everything
else
that
we
approve
on
the
budget,
and
it
turns
out
this.
A
So
something
like
a
new
administration
building
that
could
become
an
office
building.
If,
worse
came
to,
worse
is
a
lot
different
than
trying
to
borrow
against
a
Detention
Center.
That
has
a
single
purpose,
and
it's
also
difficult
to
do
things
that
are
I.
Think
on
the
on
the
broad
campus
Because.
If
we're
getting
to
Works.
How
would
you
split
it
out
so
anyway?
A
It's
new
construction,
it
is
off-site,
don't
see
a
lot
of
other
Alternatives
that
we
can
use,
and
this
is
a
good
opportunity
for
us
to
understand
the
installment
purchase
and
see
if
it's
something
that
really
does
make
sense
or
is
something
that
we
wouldn't
want
to
do
as
a
as
a
county.
So,
lastly,
in
coming
to
Jared's
point
on,
you
know
where
we
go
from
here.
A
possible
alternative
for
discussion
would
be
that
essentially
take
this
campus
and
make
it
into
the
judicial
center.
For
the
county,
obviously
it's
the
county,
seat
and
I.
A
If
you
move
those
off
campus
they'd
be
a
little
more
centrally
located
to
the
population
and
again
it
might
be
something
that's
a
little
easier
to
to
fund.
So
we
can
have
a
discussion
about
what
we
think
about
where
we
ought
to
go
and
maybe
zero
in
on
what
kind
of
direction.
If
any
we
want
to
provide
to
to
staff
on
this,
or
maybe
with
something
we
just
start
to
understand
and
come
back,
but
anyway,
that's
a
lot
to
throw
at
you.
A
J
J
I'd
I
would
definitely
support
an
LEC
and
a
EMS
in
we
say:
okatee
I
mean
it
hurts
me
because
there's
an
old
long
time,
you
put
onion
to
see,
see
the
center
of
gravity
disappear,
but
that's
a
personal
problem
as
far
as
as
far
as
what
I
think
is
best
for
the
county.
I
think.
That's
probably
it
I
don't
know
about
that.
J
F
D
F
Created
here,
I'm
I'm
with
Paul
that
law
enforcement
and
EMS
because
they
could
be
centrally
located
that
would
be
great
that'd,
be
fine.
There's
enough
I,
think
property.
We
could
probably
hopefully
find
South
of
the
broader,
no
expensive
property
on
South
abroad,
but
maybe
we
can
find
something
there
and
and
I'm
with
Gerald
is
keeping
the
administration
building
here.
F
F
I,
don't
think
the
general
public
like
to
see
Brooks
and
mortar
mean
raised
if
you
got
a
deliberated
building,
yes
raise
that,
but
if
we
can
renovate
buildings,
let's
do
that
so
I'm,
not
in
favor
of
raising
this
building
right
here,
just
use
what
we
have
renovate,
what
we
have
add
to
it.
If
the
site
will
permit
it
and
talking
I,
like
the
option
of
two
stories
versus
three
stories,
with
two
stories,
with
a
parking
lot
underneath,
because
we're
probably
gonna
need
additional
parking,
parking,
space
and
stuff
so
I
kind
of
like
option.
F
F
D
Thank
you
and
one
thing
just
to
hit,
and
you
mentioned
that
they're
having
somewhere
else
for
the
law
enforcement
center.
The
time
isn't
I
mean
this
is
a
long-term
plan,
but
the
more
and
more
we
wait,
the
less
and
less
plan
there
is
available,
especially
down
south
there's
pleasure,
less
Landing
up
north.
D
F
D
K
H
H
The
heart
of
the
of
the
county
needs
to
remain
in
Beaufort
County,
with
Administration
in
the
courthouse,
and
then,
if
it's
more
feasible,
to
get
some
land
in
the
okatee
area
for
EMS
and
and
the
law
enforcement,
then
we
need
to
start
looking
right
now,
as
we
well
know,
based
on
trying
to
find
a
location
for
a
library
too,
in
that
area
is
getting
more
and
more
difficult.
Thank
you.
E
J
Paul
I
assume
you're
going
to
need
some
direction
from
us
to
start
land
chopping
down
in
okatee
and
also
on
the
oh
Piggly,
Wiggly,
building
and
I
think
you
might
need
you
need
some
direction
on
whether
to
start
looking
for
an
option
on
that
building.
I
think
whatever
they're
doing
over.
There
is
short
term
so
it'll
be
available,
but
I
see
that
as
being
part
of
our
long-term
plan
as
well,
yeah.
D
D
What
further
is
needed,
whether
we
need
to
take
an
action
from
Council
or
a
resolution,
or
something
to
codify
that,
because
there's
going
to
be
multiple
steps,
there's
okay,
here's
some
direction
and
then
here
go
find
property
and
here
go
Implement
a
10
in
your
plan
for
funding.
So
there's
a
couple
of
steps
necessary
and
I.
Don't
know
right
off
the
hand
not
to
put
you
on
the
spot
if,
if
there's
a
resolution
needed
for
Action
to
say
okay,
this
is
this.
C
What
would
be
the
best
thing
for
you
all
to
do
is
to
make
a
recommendation
to
council
today
as
to
which
option
you
want
us
to
pursue
and
then
we'll
prepare
a
resolution
for
Council
for
the
24th,
for
you
all
to
adopt
to
kind
of
give
some
a
surety
to
that
direction
for
staff.
So
we'll
know
how
to
proceed
on
sure.
Okay,
could
you
put
up
option.
D
I
said
this
would
be
a
resolution
of
recommendation
of
approval
for
direction
and
again
we
would
have
several
tasks.
It'd
be
pretty
open
and
engineer
it,
but
enough
to
give
staff
direction
to
come
back
to
council
and
committee,
so
this
just
to
explain
it.
So
this
has
the
admin
building
up
there
on
the
corner.
D
A
J
C
D
Well,
so
let
me
back
up
so
EMS
headquarters.
Right
now
is
off
Depot,
Road
and
and
feel
free
to
jump
in
any
time
Phil.
But
right
now,
as
scheduled,
the
EMS
is
functioning.
Ems
is
functioning
also
has
a
station.
So
when
they're
citing
the
new
EMS
headquarters,
the
antennas
for
it
to
be
somewhere
up
here
in
close
proximity,
so
they
can
have
service
the
same
station.
B
Think
there's
a
little
confusion
about
where
EMS
needs
to
go
to
when
we
talk
about
EMS
EMS
needs
to
stay
wherever
our
calls
for
service
are,
we
have
to
look
at
response
times
and
I
have
an
eight
minute
and
30
second
response
time
to
meet
with
our
ambulances.
So
when
you
talk
about
moving
EMS
there's
on
Depot,
Road
EMS
is
made
up
of
a
Administration
and
training
and
Logistics
area,
and
out
of
that
same
place,
a
unit
runs
out
of
there
too.
B
So
it's
kind
of
a
dual
purpose
on
Depot
Road
for
talking
about
moving
the
administration,
training
and
Logistics
somewhere.
That's
one
thing:
ambulances
are
not
going
to
be
moving
along
with
it.
Ambulances
have
to
stay
in
the
areas
that
they're
designated
to
be
at
in
order
to
cover
response
times.
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that's
clear
that
yeah
I
kept
hearing
EMS
needs
to
go
south
to
you,
know
down
to
okatee.
Well,
I'm,
not
packing
up
all
the
ambulances
and
moving
them
down
south
I.
B
The
EMS
and
I'm
not
going
to
get
into
that
part
of
it,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we're
clear
on
EMS,
because
EMS
is
not
going
anywhere
out
of
these
stations
that
are
in
the
north
side
of
Beaufort
County
they're
staying
where
they're
at
and,
if
not
anything,
we're
going
to
be
adding
more
North.
Just
as
much
as
we
do
South
to
keep
up
with
the
populations.
C
A
Comments
so
the
the
question
on
the
table
is
basically:
do
we
want
to
adopt
option
number
one
which
does
the
best
Jared
is
described
it
and
you
still
have
the
administration
building
on
the
campus
and
I.
Think
if
that
gives
the
direction
to
staff,
then
you
all
would
make
that
into
a
planning
exercise
and
part
of
the
front
end
of
that
would
probably
have
to
be
starting
to
think
seriously
about
what
land
we
want
to
acquire,
because
that
is
the
long
lead
item.
Yeah
can't
wait
on.
A
D
F
D
All
right,
so
this
is
just
a
quick
update.
This
was
already
included
in
the
budget
amendment
a
six
million
dollars
appropriation
towards
Transportation
Planning,
but
this
is
just
a
little
bit
of
a
more
Fuller
explanation
of
what
all
is
included
in
that.
So
again,
this
is
in
lieu
of
the
sales
tax
Transportation
sales
tax.
D
This
was
an
appropriation
made
out
of
general
fund
in
order
for
engineering
to
get
started
on
some
of
the
major
projects,
as
well
as
some
of
the
bucket
projects,
so
that
should
we
be
ready
and
available
in
two
years
and
24
for
our
transportation
referendum,
we've
got
a
head
start.
This
would
not
be
for
the
construction
of
those
projects,
but
just
merely
the
engineering
to
get
that
project
started
and
moving
down
the
path
so
out
of
the
six
million
dollars.
This
is
what
a
staff's
plan
is
for
the
use
of
those
funds.
D
Two
million
of
it
go
into
the
triangle,
preliminary
design.
So
as
we
mentioned
170,
but
not
stopping
there.
Looking
at
the
entire
triangle,
we're
going
to
try
to
pair
that
out
with
additional
funds
from
lats,
as
well
as
our
other
partners
in
Hardeeville
and
and
Jasper
County,
so
continuing
to
move
forward
with
that
improvements
to
sc46.
D
So
this
is
looking
at
from
the
traffic
circle
towards
Jasper
County,
that
section
in
particular,
as
well
as
some
potential
safety
improvements
closer
back
towards
the
east
at
any
specific
intersections
that
are
causing
trouble
so
one
and
a
half
million
dollars
towards
that-
and
this
is
not
necessarily
the
full
cost
of
the
engineering,
usually
engineering's
in
the
10
range.
So
if
you
have
a
a
40
million
dollar
project,
you
can
expect
four
million
dollars.
D
D
So
we
can
come
up
with
a
plan
from
Boundary
Street
all
the
way
to
the
Bell
bridge
and
something
that
makes
sense
for
both
city
of
Beaufort
and
town
of
Port
Royal
and
then
out
of
the
rest
of
the
six
million
dollars
got
one
and
a
half
million.
So
one
went
to
safety
projects,
there's
a
lot
of
safety
projects
in
the
area,
whether
it's
a
turn
lane
a
signal
Improvement,
just
minor
safety
improvements
that
make
a
lot
of
difference
in
specific
targeted
areas.
D
So
staff's
got
a
number
of
those
known
locations
where
we
get
significant
safety
requests.
So
we're
going
to
take
a
look
at
those
and
start
the
design
on
several
of
those
intersection
projects
and
then,
lastly,
a
half
a
million
towards
the
its
so
intelligent
Transportation.
As
mentioned
we're
coordinating
with
lats
on
a
master
plan
on
that,
so
don't
think
any
of
our
money
will
need
to
go
towards
that.
Maybe
a
local
match
will
but
then
specifically,
some
smart
controllers
for
signals.
D
Some
wireless
controllers,
as
well
as
as
mentioned
earlier
with
the
town
of
Hilton
Head
they're,
looking
at
an
Adaptive
system,
so
putting
in
the
bones
for
something
on
270
all
the
way
from
Sea
Pines
to
I-95.
So
that's
the
sort
of
planning
thought
on
what
those
funds
would
be
used
for.
So
anyhow,
I
just
wanted
to
do
a
little
bit.
Fuller
Fuller
dive
on
what
those
funds
were
and
take
any
questions
on
that.
A
A
These
are
more
of
investments
in
the
sense
that
we're
investing
in
some
planning
engineering
and
permitting
reasonable
probability
that
we
get
paid
back
when
those
projects
come
so
we're
basically
just
accelerating
money
and,
in
course,
of
doing
that
I
think
it
positions
us
better
for
whatever
you
put
in
the
transportation
resolution,
if
you
do
it
and,
secondly,
I
think
it
positions
us
better
to
get
state
and
federal
money
than
we
might
otherwise
get,
because
they
look
more
shovel
ready
here.
Yeah.
C
Well,
I
mean
we
just
for
the
record
I
want
to
reiterate
that
we
already
have
a
commitment
from
Senator
Tom
Davis
to
find
as
much
funding
for
us
as
possible
because
we
went
with
the
green
space
referendum
instead
of
the
transportation
referendum
this
time
so
anyway,
just
just
stating
that,
for
the
record
checks
in
the
mail
checks
checks
in
the
mail
from
what
we
understand.
But
this
will.
This
will
definitely
be
able
to
advance
those
projects
and
put
them
on
the
table
so
that
we'll
have
of
some
good
cost
estimates.
A
And
I
tend
to
think
along
the
way,
not
necessarily
this
year,
but
if
it
starts
to
work,
then
there
may
be
places
where
you
have
excess
cash,
where
it's
actually
a
good
investment,
particularly
if
you
can
get
paid
back
out
of
this
and
I
think
that
170,
the
angle
that
you
talked
about
the
triangle
in
the
170
I
think
that
positions
you
well
to
go
for
State
infrastructure
bank.
That
seems
to
me
that
would
be
the
single
biggest
one.
A
L
L
L
It
was
a
split
between
storm
water
utility
and
the
rural
and
critical
program
with
storm
water,
putting
156
thousand
dollars
into
it
with
the
purpose
of
building
a
storm
water
Pond
to
ensure
water
quality
for
the
Watershed
that
goes
into
the
okatee
river,
by
where
the
pepper
Hall
development
is
now
that's
where
this
out
Falls
Downstream
the
lower
portion
is
the
new
Leaf
track.
That's
86.5
Acres.
It
was
purchased
for
two
million
dollars.
The
storm
water
utility
put
165
000
into
that
one.
L
Is
we
could
take
advantage
of
the
curb
cut
in
Highway
170?
We
have
left
turn
access
across
the
median
into
this
property
currently,
so
there
would
there's
no
modification
needed
on
170
to
facilitate
access
to
the
site.
In
addition,
we're
far
enough
north
of
the
wetlands,
where
we
could
use
the
the
storm
water
pond
redesign
it
where
it,
it
curves
more
in
a
kidney
shape,
functions
both
as
an
aesthetic
amenity
for
the
library
and
ensures
water
quality,
which
is
what
the
property
was
purchased
for.
L
In
the
first
place,
the
center
portion,
the
new
Leaf
parcel
a
is
about
46
Acres.
This
is
the
Watershed
proper.
This
is
the
low
area
on
the
property.
This
is
where
the
water
flows
through
there's
a
storm
water
pond
on
the
right
hand,
side
and
both
of
these
ponds
work
as
bmps
for
sediment
control
and
water
quality
for
all
the
drainage.
It
comes
from
west
of
Sun
City
and
down
through
that
area,
underneath
Highway
170..
L
L
There
would
be
no
adverse
effects
of
water
quality.
We
would
design
it
such
that
there
would
be
no
runoff
into
the
the
low
areas
and
in
fact
it
would
increase
water
quality
because
of
how
we
would
design
it.
The
access
for
this
parcel
would
be
Davis
Road,
which
also
has
left
turn
access
off
of
Highway
170.,
just
below
where
my
cursor
is
here
is
a
school.
What's
the
name
of
the
school
River
Ridge
Academy,
River
Ridge
Academy
is
accessed
off
of
Bluffton
Parkway.
There
are
two
roads
that
wrap
around
that.
L
It
is
adjacent
to
this
property
and
in
fact,
where
my
cursor
is
now,
that's
the
wraparound
road
that
goes
around
the
school.
So
the
the
question
that
I
think
we
really
need
to
address
is
how
do
we
make
Rural
and
critical
lands
whole?
If
we
transfer
this
property
out,
we
currently
have
two
pieces
of
property
in
our
County
inventory
that
are
not
in
Rural
and
critical
lands.
The
first
one
is
Camp
St
Mary's.
L
This
is
an
eight
acre
track.
We've
owned
it
for
I,
don't
know
good,
while
since
1997.
it
was
purchased
for
500
000
out
of
the
general
fund.
This
is
a
very
valuable
piece
of
property.
If
you
look
at
the
yellow
outline,
this
was
outlined
off
of
our
GIS
I
do
want
to
point
out
that
it
goes
all
the
way
to
the
critical
line.
So
it
is
a
deep
water
piece
of
property.
There's
currently
a
restroom
facility.
There's
a
covered
picnic
Pavilion.
L
L
J
H
L
Is
this
is
adjacent
to
where
the
collection
center
is
right?
Now
it's
just
to
the
the
west
of
that
right.
So
if
I
go
back
up
one,
you
notice
that
off
of
Buck
Island
Road.
This
is
a
an
existing
privately
held
Park
and
there's
a
very
nice
walking
trail.
That
runs
all
the
way
down
the
the
south
side
of
Bluffton
Parkway.
L
What
we
would
like
to
do
with
this
is
create
a
boardwalk
area,
kind
of
a
nature,
trail
Boardwalk
area
that
goes
back
through
this
and
then
Loops
back
and
comes
back
out
onto
to
the
sidewalk
area
and
would
potentially
connect
to
this
park.
So
that
is
what
we
would
like
to
do.
I'll
go
back
to
this
slide
and
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
J
The
thing
about
the
transfer
and
for
Saint
Mary's
Camp
St
Mary's
is
law.
In
my
opinion
is
long
overdue.
I
mean
long
order.
This
has
been
crying
out
to
be
done
for
a
long
time.
Shame
on
all
of
us
for
not
doing
it
earlier.
I
think
it
absolutely
needs,
because
the
potential
of
that
piece
of
property
is
incredible
and
it
has
not
been
able
to
do
that
sitting
in
our
inventory.
So
I
think
it's
I
think
it's
a
great
idea.
C
F
F
F
F
You
know
we
I
don't
think
when
I
was
in
a
ruling
critical
land
board
anytime,
there
was
a
swapping
land.
County
Council
respected
the
ruling
critical
land
board.
That
much
to
say
what
do
you
think
about
this,
whether
you
agree
with
it
or
not?
We
want
to
know
what
you
think
about
this,
that
property
was
put
in
basically
because
of
Stone
water
and
because
of
open
space
and
now
we're
taking
that
and
doing
something
else
with
it
other
than
open
space.
M
M
Regarding
the
rest
of
the
plan,
I,
don't
I
don't
disagree
with
it
per
se.
I
do
absolutely
positively
understand
the
need
for
a
new
library
and
from
new
new
ball
fields.
For
sure,
however,
my
concern
is
that
when
we
start
to
transfer
property
out
of
the
role
in
critical
lands
program,
regardless
of
what
the
use
is
for,
regardless
of
how
legitimate
of
a
use,
it
is,
regardless
of
how
good
of
a
plan
that
we
run
the
very
high
risk
of
eroding
confidence
in
the
pub
and
the
Public's
trust
in
that
program
itself
and
I.
M
J
Well,
I'd
like
to
see
at
some
point
somebody
from
engineering
who
can
speak
to
the
drainage
issue
on
that
piece
to
address
kind
of
the
concerns
that
that
you
worked
great
I
I'm,
trying
to
think
of
what
the
implication
would
be
on
that
property
for
stormwater
drainage.
If
we
proceed
as
suggested
and
I,
don't
know
what
I
don't
know
what
it
is,
but
I
think
there's
a
there's:
an
opportunity
for
an
Ninja
Storm
water
engineer
to
tell
us
what
that
means
and
make
either
make
him
feel
better
or
not.
J
A
C
We
would
prefer
you
consider
it
together
and
if
you
don't
do
the
other
the
transfer
out,
then
you
know
you
can
do
what
you
want
to
do
with
the
camp.
St
Mary's,
but
that's
a
valuable
piece
of
property
sitting
there.
So
I'm
not
sure
you
won't
put
that
in
the
rule
in
critical
lands
program
and
hamper
future
councils.
C
At
this
point
again
we're
we
were
following
the
direction
of
the
County
Council
from
a
previous
meeting
several
months
ago
to
bring
forward
this
plan
from
you
all,
because
you
all
said
that
we
could
consider
using
that
property
for
recreation
fields
and
the
only
the
way
to
do
that
is
to
transfer
it
out
of
ruined
critical
lands
program.
The
world
critical
lands
ordinance
contemplated
that
from
time
to
time,
the
role
in
critical
lands
ordinance
makes
a
provision
for
that
transfer.
C
You
have
done
it
at
least
one
other
time
with
the
construction
of
the
animal
shelter,
we're
happy
to
take
it
to
the
wrong
critical
lands
board.
If
you
would
like
for
us
to
do
so,
to
get
their
input,
we
did
not
want
to
do
that
before
we
had
direction
from
you
all
because
shorter
direction
from
you
all,
there's
really.
No,
if
you
go,
if
you
all,
don't
want
to
do
this
or
recommended
accounts,
we
do
this
no
need
to
take
a
room
through
the
lands
board.
F
C
Become
we
can
we
can
address
the
storm
water
issues
very
quickly?
Obviously
we
can
develop
this
property
with
the
ball
fields
and
all
and
less,
and
and
do
it
in
a
low
impactful
way,
so
that
the
storm
water
and
water
quality
leaving
the
site
is
not
impaired
and
potentially
would
be
further
enhanced
through
the
development
of
the
property.
C
The
only
question
that
we
would
have
is,
if
you
all
want
a
recommendation
from
the
rule
on
critical
lands
board
before
Council
action,
then
we
would
need
more
time
than
next
Monday,
because
we
would
have
to
get
this
before
the
role
in
critical
lands
board
at
their
next
meeting
in
November,
which
is
I,
believe
the
third
Thursday
of
November,
2nd
Thursday
of
November
Thursday,
second
Thursday
of
November.
So
we
won't
be
able
to
bring
it
back
to
you
all
until
meeting
in
November
anyway.
C
A
So
we
have,
we
have
a
resolution
on
the
table
and
I
think
the
thought
process
is
that
we
would
look
to
do
it
in
the
November
meeting
rather
than
try
to
force
it
through
next
month.
Is
that
okay?
They
believe
that
it's
generally
okay
with
people,
okay,
so
I
guess
the
question
is:
are
there
objections
I?
Think
Chris,
you
mentioned,
you
have
an
objection.
A
A
Okay,
good
discussion,
okay,
last
item-
and
this
has
to
do
with
the
funding
of
the
airport
terminal
on
Hilton,
Head
and
I-
wanted
to
take
a
few
minutes.
Here
are
some
of
my
thoughts
and
just
make
sure
that
we're
on
a
good
track
moving
forward,
there's
probably
still
some
discussions
that
take
place
or
possibly
different
ways
to
do
it
from
staff
perspective.
But
in
any
event,
if
you
wouldn't
mind,
Paul
give
that
to
Eric
and
one
for
you
and
one
for.
A
A
A
couple
of
these
numbers
may
be
off
by
a
little
bit,
but
my
mind.
We
roughly
have
about
35
million
on
hand.
I
do
think
we
will
continue
to
get
some
grants.
John's,
always
pretty
active
and
pretty
successful,
but
I
doubt
that
we
will
get
enough
grants
since
we've
Tapped
Out
of
the
FAA
to
actually
avoid
some
future
borrowing
anyway
or
dragging
the
project
out
over
a
a
long
period
of
time.
A
So
it
seems
to
me
the
alternative
that
we
have
before
us
is
if
we
focus
purely
on
the
funds
that
are
available
today,
whether
it's
25
or
35
million.
Does
that
put
us
in
a
position
where
we
have
to
re-engineer
the
the
building
that's
been
designed
or
do
we
say,
we've
got
a
significant
amount
or
a
satisfactory
amount
of
Revenue
stream.
That
would
allow
us
to
borrow
now,
so
we
could
have
a
little
larger
package
now.
A
A
The
second
piece
that
you
have
what
are
called
passenger
facility
charges
when
you
know
when
you
take
an
airplane
ticket,
you
see
a
4.50
charge
on
that
for
the
38
of
that
comes
back
to
us.
It's
generally
for
these
kinds
of
things,
there's
limitations
on
on,
where
you
can
use
it
and
it's
based
on
departing
passengers
or
Employments,
and
if
you
and
it's
a
function
of
the
number
of
people
that
are
actually
traveling.
A
So
if
you
look
at
the
average
of
the
last
three
years,
we've
averaged
about
135
000
Employments
and
at
the
438
that
would
give
you
about
590
000
dollars
at
The,
Other
Extreme.
If
you
looked
at
their
design
criteria
that
they're
planning
for
seven
or
eight
years
out,
that
would
be
a
number
of
215
000..
A
lot
depends
on
whatever
the
airlines
decide
to
do,
but
you
know
that
would
generate
about
nine
hundred
and
forty
thousand
dollars.
A
So
if
you
combine
those
in
the
upper
right
hand,
corner
and
just
looked
at
the
green
and
the
red
as
being
the
extremes
of
the
potential
money,
you're
dealing
with
roughly
1.41.5
million
versus
already
up
to
2.7
is
what
might
be
available
and
bumping
their
bond
rate
a
little
bit,
because
interest
rates
have
gone
up.
That
would
say
those
revenue
streams
ought
to
support
either
18
million
at
the
low
end
or
35
million
at
the
high
end.
A
So
if,
in
fact,
we
took
the
under
debate,
what
I
called
the
base
bid
and
took
35
million
I
think
there's
another
five
million
that
we
can
count
on
from
the
state
and
borrow
just
50..
That
would
give
us
55
million,
which
is
a
little
bit
north
of
what
of
the
50.
That
I
had
mentioned
now
the
the
five
percent,
the
five
million
from
the
state
Falls
in
this
category,
the
legislature
passed
on
an
appropriated,
50
million
dollars
for
the
six
commercial
airlines
in
the
in
the
states,
airports
in
the
state.
A
A
You
know
what
that
number
is,
but
I
stuck
five
million
in
there,
so
that
would
kind
of
suggest
that
something
in
the
range
of
15
million
would
be
reasonable,
probably
conservative,
borrowing,
if
you're
looking
at
it
the
full
project
it
took
the
35
added
the
five
and
assume
we
got
some
more
grants
along
the
way,
and
you
were
maybe
looking
at
a
20
million
dollar
bond
that
would
get
up
to
the
full
price
of
the
75
million.
That's
projected
by
the
Consultants
next
slide.
A
In
in
listening
to
the
conversation
about
how
we
might
do
this,
it
seems
like
it
what
emerges
is:
what's
called
a
special
obligation
bond,
which
is
basically
supported
by
the
revenue
streams,
but
it
also
has
to
be
underwritten
by
the
by
the
counties
on
those.
If
there's
a
shortfall
to
those
revenue
streams,
then
the
county
would
be
on
the
on
the
hook
for
those
not
much
different
than
what
we
do
with
with
tiffs
so
on
the
full
project.
A
A
So,
on
the
right
hand,
side
if
we
were
just
looking
at
the
the
smaller
Bond
say,
a
15
that
would
be
a
Debt
Service
of
a
million
two.
The
revenue
is
a
million
four,
so
we
still
have
a
little
better
than
a
one-time
coverage
for
that.
Now.
If
we're
to
do
that,
then
I
think
what
would
happen
is
the
additional
smaller
phases
the
hopscotching
around.
A
So
we're
really
looking
out
into
2024
is
the
one
we'd
actually
draw,
so
it
probably
lends
itself
to
some
kind
of
a
concept
of
a
construction
loan
interest
only
during
the
period
leading
up
to
that
and
I
think
if
we
were
going
down
that
path,
I
think
there's
a
reasonable
expectation
that
enough
grants
would
come
along
as
long
as
we
had
some
borrowing
in
place
that
we
might
actually
finish
the
full
project.
We're
doing
this.
A
You
know
Tom
Davis,
Senator
Davis
asked
what
we
needed
probably
should
have
suggested
more,
but
I
told
him
I
thought
we
needed
in
the
10
to
12,
and
he
said
that
he
thought
that
was
was
very
doable
and
if
that
happened,
that
would
fall
well
within
the
project.
Now
staff
was
kind
enough
to
take
a
look
at
this
and
make
comments
on
a
couple
things
and
I'll
just
address.
A
Those
one
was
that
we,
you
don't
actually
have
the
12
million
on
hand
from
the
state
yet
and
I,
don't
know
what
the
exact
terms
of
when
that
would
come,
but
it
is
codified
in
in
statute.
So
I
don't
have
any
reason
to
believe
that
we
wouldn't
get
that
money,
and
it's
also
my
understanding
that
that
money-
and
maybe
some
of
the
FAA
money
has
expirations
on
it.
So
we
have.
A
I
think,
there's
a
question
about
whether
you,
whether
we
would
need
15
or
20,
to
get
through
this
so-called
base
bid
I
think
the
difference
may
have
made
their
well
be
whether
we
count
on
that
5
million.
That
I
mentioned
from
the
state,
as
whatever
our
share
is
of
the
50
million,
has
been
approved
by
the
legislature.
A
The
project
originally
did
was
in
as
one
lump
sum
bid,
but
it
did
have
six
construction
phases,
which
is
what
they
had
to
do,
because
you
got
to
move
the
people
around
because
we're
building
in
place
and
the
pfcs
have
fallen
off
a
little
bit
because
I
think
the
volume
is
down
now.
So
we
have
to
be
sensitive
to
that,
because
we
still
got
some
debt
to
pay
off
the.
They
were
originally
I.
Think
gonna
finish
up
in
March
of
next
year
and
that
may
extend
out
a
little
bit
so
anyway.
A
A
A
What
really
is
the
risk
to
us
if
we're
underwriting
that
and
essentially
I
view
it
as
a
fairly
low
risk,
because,
if
I
took,
if
it
actually
gets
covered,
if
we
hit
80
percent
of
the
implantments
that
we
averaged
in
the
last
three
years
and
80
of
the
Consultants
very
low
at
the
bottom
end
of
the
bits,
I
don't
see
that
as
a
big
risk.
So
the
benefits
to
me
are
that
I
think
you
can
end
up
using
the
package
as
it
was
originally
sent
out
for
bid
because
it
did
have
phases
in
order.
A
What
have
to
be
done
in
order
to
operate
in
place
as
opposed
to.
If
we
make
it
too
small
amount
of
money,
then
I
think
we
get
into
redesigning
and
repackaging
the
bit.
I.
Think
if
we're
doing
something
like
this
I
think
it
sends
a
great
message
to
the
Airlines
and
to
the
state
and
to
the
FAA
that
are
all
interested
in
what
we're
doing
I
think
it
puts
Talbot
and
bright,
or
at
least
their
consultant,
in
a
position
to
better
negotiate
with
the
airlines.
A
If,
because
the
more
we
have
under
construction
planned
the
stronger
the
case
for
them
to
give
us
more
money
for
the
rattle,
as
I
said
earlier,
I
think
I
think
there's
a
good
chance
that
we
could
finish
the
whole
construction.
If
we
get
or
some
reasonable
grants
coming
along,
we
certainly
got
to
avoid
something
that
looks
like
we're
half
completed
terminal
and
to
me
it's
very
important
to
not
get
in
a
mode
where
we
drag
this
thing
out.
A
So
my
feeling
is
that
we'd
be
well
served
to
seriously
consider
a
special
obligation
Bond,
whether
it's
15
or
20
million
staff
could
do
due
diligence
on
what
they
think
would
be
the
appropriate
money,
but
I
stood
up
for
discussion,
and-
and
maybe
maybe
this
is
something
as
a
as
a
council
and
a
staff
we
want
to
take
on
for
the
reasons
mentioned
so
I
just
thought
open
for
discussion.
It's
just.
J
My
thoughts
a
couple
things
up:
first
of
all,
you're
talking
about
using
their
revenue
stream
for
Debt
Service
I
mean
that
that's
their
budget,
that's
where
they
get
their
money.
You
get
their
money
from
the
Airlines
and
from
the
concessions
and
you're
talking
about
converting
that
from
operations
to
Debt
Service,
which
is
my
to
me,
that's
very
troubling.
J
The
other
thing
is
using
the
green
you're
talking
about
just
barely
meeting
ratios
and
number
three
is
a
lot
of
people?
Don't
understand
this.
They
think
that
when
we
do
a
project,
when
we
propose
an
approval
project
that
we
have
that
money
sitting
in
a
bank
account
somewhere
and
that
we're
gonna
it's
just
and
it
won't
go
anywhere,
and
we
just
everything,
works
out.
Fine,
but
that's
not
the
way.
J
We
work
we're
constantly
moving
money
around
to
to
maximize
the
efficiency
of
the
money
and
particularly
that
the
high
interest
rates
we're
dealing
with
today.
I
mean
the
last
thing
I
would
want
to
support
right
now
is
borrowing
money
any
earlier
than
we
absolutely
have
to
I
mean
you're
at
the
prime
and
labor
looked
like
and
then
just
the
curb's
going
like
this.
It's
not
going
like
this,
so
so
I
would.
J
A
Just
while
you're
thinking
about
other
comments,
I
I
I
thought
about
that
Paul
and
and
one
of
the
problems
is
and
the
only
reason,
I
suggested
that
the
bonding
is
that
it
would
make
sense
in
a
pure
business
standpoint,
just
to
say
we're
willing
to
borrow
two
years
from
now
when
we
need
the
money
and
we
know
exactly
what
we
need.
But
is
that
enough
of
a
commitment
from
Council
for
staff
to
be
able
to
go
out
and
get
a
bid
on
a
project
that
includes
us.
A
E
C
C
You
all
know
that
I'm
not
very
strong
with
numbers,
so
I
have
to
rely
upon
the
staff
on
this,
but
apparently
we're
not
in
a
position
at
this
point,
a
good
position
for
us
to
even
be
able
to
obtain
the
bomb,
because
we
do
not
know
and
cannot
give
lenders
assurances
as
to
what
we
will
be
bringing
in
from
the
airport
through
these
pocs.
Whenever
we
do
the
expansion,
we
had
hired
Tower
bright
to
hire
a
consultant
a
couple
years
ago
to
go
out
and
tell
us
that
information.
C
I
What
Mr,
Greenway
is
just
told
to
you:
staff
does
not
have
the
same
Comfort
level
with
issuing
debt
at
this
time.
There
are
too
many
unknowns
for
us
to
proceed
down
that
route.
I
think
it's
critical
for
us
that
we
make
calculated
very
wise
decisions
that
put
us
in
a
position
of
fiscal
accountability
to
taxpayers
and
I.
Don't
feel
at
this
time
that
we
can
say
with
confidence
that
we
can
support
a
debt
issuance
from
the
airport
at
this
time.
I
So,
for
those
reasons,
staff
is
not
wanting
to
issue
debt
or
go
down
this
route,
we
would
prefer
to
wait
until
this
project
has
been
vetted
further.
We
don't
feel
that
we're
losing
anything
by
doing
it
in
phases
as
this
first
package,
when
it's
rebidden
phases
is
underway
with
the
potential
35
million
that
is
presented
today.
I
Even
if
it's
bid
out
the
construction
won't
start
or
be
completed
for
a
number
of
years,
and
so
staff's
recommendation
is
that
during
that
time
frame
we
evaluate
the
remaining
phases
and,
at
that
point
in
time,
put
together
a
recommendation
for
funding
from
which
the
airport
has
generated
enough
Revenue
to
service
the
debt
and
feel
confident
about
that
recommendation.
But
again,
at
this
time,
staff
doesn't
have
that
confidence,
but
I
will
pass
the
mic
to
either
our
financial
advisory
firm
or
our
bond
Council
firm
if
they
feel
that
they
need
to
add
anything
additional.
K
K
Here
good
afternoon,
everybody
yeah
I
would
Echo
your
comments
and
I
do
think.
If
the
time
comes
where
you
need
to
borrow
that
money,
that
special
obligation,
Bond
structure,
is
a
good
one
to
follow
and
expects
a
good
balance
between
using
airport
revenues,
while
also
leveraging
the
the
County's
credit
rating
on
its
own.
A
A
I
I
guess,
from
my
perspective
and
I
may
be
a
lone
wolf
on
this.
It
does
seem
to
me
that
there
is
some
reasonable
Revenue
stream.
Then
we
could
say
that
we
could
borrow
gas
Factor
at
The
Falls
point.
If
you
looked
at
the
free
cash
the
last
last
couple
years,
it
was
about
a
million
dollars
a
year
at
the
airport.
A
C
No
I
mean
well,
you
know.
Let
me
just
make
it
clear
for
the
council
and
for
the
record
that
our
staff,
the
team
that
we
put
together
with
Whitney
and
Jared
and
John
as
the
airport
director,
have
met
many
times
on
the
airport
expansion
when
the
bids
came
in
substantially
beyond
what
you
all
had
been
told
and
what
I
have
been
told
for
years
leading
up
to
that
bid
process.
You
know
it
was,
you
all
were
told
repeatedly:
32
million
32
million
32
million
to
do
the
airport
expansion.
C
Well,
we
get
it
it's
at
52
million
or
Plus
North
of
50
as
the
actual
cost.
So
we're
substantially
short
and
now
we're
talking
about
numbers
in
the
70
million
dollar
range.
So
it's
going
to
keep
increasing
as
we
don't
do
it.
But
the
fact
of
the
matter
is
we
do
not
have
the
money
to
do
anything
more
than
what
we
have
already
done
and
the
staff
has
met.
C
C
In
addition,
the
economy-
we
do
not
know-
what's
going
to
happen
with
the
economy,
with
these
Airlines
coming
into
Hilton
Head,
and
so
we
have
people
that
are
hired
to
do
these
things.
They've
made
a
recommendation
that
I
thought
everyone
was
on
the
same
page
with
as
far
as
the
way
we
would
proceed.
We
have
proceeded
underneath
that
direction
and
that
does
not
include
doing
a
bond.
We
will
have
to
bond
eventually,
if
we're
going
to
complete
the
project
fully,
the
airport
is
an
Enterprise
fund.
C
The
airport
is
in
debt
to
the
general
fund
at
about
eight
million
dollars.
If
you
can't
use
all
your
Revenue
stream
to
cover
debt,
because
not
only
when
you
build
it,
you
got
to
cover
salaries.
You
got
to
cover
all
the
things
that
you're
covering
for
the
airport
to
operate
anyway,
and
in
addition
to
that
you've
got
to
cover
you.
A
F
F
Problem
is
that
there
are
folks
out
there
that
are
sabotaging
signs
and
and
taking
science
down
and
I
want
to
call
on
all
the
elected
officials
to
denounce
that
and
for
the
sheriff
to
monitor
to
see
what
is
happening
out
there
because
yeah,
it's
not
fair,
I,
believe
in
a
fair
election,
and
everybody
has
a
right
to
campaign
and
when
you
have
signs
being
taken
down
and
taken
away,
is
not
right,
so
I'm,
just
one
of
them.
Thank
you,
sir
I
would
agree.