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I. CALL TO ORDER
II. ROLL CALL
III. NOTICE REGARDING ADJOURNMENT
The Historic Preservation Commission will not hear new items after 9:30 p.m. unless authorized by
a majority vote of the Commission Members present. Items which have not been heard before
9:30 p.m. may be continued to the next regular meeting or a special meeting date as determined
by the Commission Members.
IV. NOTICE REGARDING PUBLIC COMMENTS*
Every member of the public who is recognized to speak shall address the Chairman and in
speaking, avoid disrespect to Commission, Staff, or other members of the Meeting. State your
name and address when speaking for the record. COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THREE (3)
MINUTES.
V. ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA
VI. ADOPTION OF MINUTES
1. August 3, 2022 Minutes
VII. PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA*
VIII. OLD BUSINESS
IX. NEW BUSINESS
1. Certificate of Appropriateness: A request by William Court of Court Atkins Architects, LLC, on
behalf of the owners, Jeffrey and Leslie Crook for approval of a Certificate of Appropriateness
- HD to allow the construction of a new 2.5-story Single Family Residential structure of
approximately 4,866 SF with attached Carriage House 1,135 SF to be located at 6 Shell Rake
Street, identified as Lot 31 in the Tabby Roads Development, in the Old Town Bluffton Historic
District and zoned Neighborhood General-HD. (COFA-11-21-016079) (Staff - Katie Peterson)
Town of Bluffton, SC Historic Preservation Commission Agenda September 07, 2022
2. Certificate of Appropriateness: A request by Kathleen Duncan, on behalf of the owners,
Suzanne and Franco Sirkin, for approval of a Certificate of Appropriateness - HD to allow the
addition of an outdoor shower and deck of approximately 102 SF on the existing single-family
residential structure of approximately 2,578 SF located at 5774 Yaupon Road, Lot 17A in the
Stock Farm Development, in the Old Town Bluffton Historic District and zoned Neighborhood
General-HD. (COFA-06-22-016935) (Staff - Katie Peterson)
3. Certificate of Appropriateness: A request by Pearce Scott Architects for approval of a
Certificate of Appropriateness to allow the renovation and reconstruction of a 546 square foot
single-family residence and Contributing Resource (Corinne Heyward Home) located at 3
Wharf Street, in the Old Town Bluffton Historic District and zoned Neighborhood General-HD.
(COFA-05-22-016741) (Staff - Glen Umberger)
X. DISCUSSION
XI. ADJOURNMENT
NEXT MEETING DATE: Wednesday, October 5, 2022
B
Looks
like
we
have
a
quorum,
correct,
okay
notice
regarding
adjournment.
The
historic
preservation
commission
will
not
hear
new
items
after
9
30
unless
authorized
by
majority
vote.
Commission
members
present
items
which
have
not
been
heard
before
9
30
may
be
continued
to
the
next
meeting,
regular
meeting
or
special
meeting,
as
determined
by
the
commission
members
notice
regarding
public
comments.
B
Every
member
of
the
public,
who
is
recognized
to
speak,
shall
address
the
chairman
and,
in
speaking,
avoid
disrespect
to
commission
staff
or
other
members
of
the
meeting
state,
your
name
and
address
and
speak
when
speaking
for
the
record
comments
are
limited
to
three
minutes.
Do
you
have
any
public.
C
B
B
E
B
I
get
a
second
second
any
discussion,
if
not
all
in
favor
aye
aye
looks
like
that
was
unanimous
again
going
back
public
comments.
I
know
I
always
ask
that
because
when
we
talk
about
the
comments,
but
there
are
no
public
households
and
there's
no
old
business,
so
it
looks
like
we
have
new
business
and
I
believe
we
have
three
items.
Today's
present
and
I
believe
katie
you
are
up
first.
C
Tonight
the
first
application
that
we
have
before
us
tonight.
Can
you
guys
hear
me
it's
definitely
funny
tonight
for
my
ears.
So
tonight
the
first
application
we
have
before
us
is
for
six
shell
break
street,
which
is
in
the
tabby
roads
development.
It
is
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
to
allow
them
the
construction
of
a
new
two
and
a
half
story.
C
C
This
is
the
site
plan.
So,
as
you
can
see,
shell
rig
runs
along
the
front,
which
is
the
right
side
of
your
screen
here
and
then
there
are
two
lanes,
so
one
is
barnacle.
Barnacle
cut
lane
at
the
top
of
the
screen,
and
then
mud
bar
lane
is
where
it
gets
its
access,
which
is
on
the
bottom
of
your
screen.
Here.
C
This
is
a
visual
of
how
the
house
will
be
placed
on
the
lot.
There
is
a
question
of
the
parallel
to
the
street,
and
so
they
gave
us
this
exhibit
as
part
of
their
submittal
the
middle
materials
just
so
that
you
had
a
better
idea
of
what
that
was
going
to
look
like
when
it
was
being
placed
on
the
lot.
So,
as
you
can
see,
this
is
the
second
lot
in
from
baroon
road,
which
is
the
very
very
top
of
your
street.
I
may
have
cropped
it
a
little
close.
C
C
C
C
C
I
know
I'm
sorry,
but
then
this
is
the
primary
structure
with
the
carriage
house
that's
attached,
as
well
as
the
garden
structure
that
is
off
to
the
left
there
the
second
floor
plan,
so
there
is
heated
space
in
the
full
primary
and
carriage
house.
There
is
no
second
story
to
that
garden
structure,
because
garden
structures
cannot
have
second
stories,
so
that
is.
C
Then
this
is
the
attic
space
which
has
a
head
height,
a
possible
head
height
of
five
feet
or
more.
When
an
area
has
a
possible
head
height
of
five
feet
or
more,
it
needs
to
be
counted
in
order
to
ensure
that
it
is
not
counting
as
a
half
story
or
a
whole
story
where
it
can't.
In
this
case
it
can
be
counted
as
that
half
story.
It
is
between
30
and
70
of
the
story
beneath
it.
C
C
So
this
is
the
front
elevation.
This
is
the
side
that
faces
shell
rake,
it's
hard
to
say:
shell,
rake
and
tabby
shell,
roads
tabby
shell
together,
so
you
can
see
it
has
the
double
full
front.
Porch
here
with
the
side
edition,
you
can
see
just
a
bit
of
the
carriage
house
behind
it
here,
as
well
as
the
the
first
floor
of
that
kara
chocolate
pokes
out
here.
You
cannot
see
the
garden
structure
from
the
front
elevation
because
it
is
set
back
behind
the
where
the
carriage
house
is.
C
C
What's
going
on
as
you
cut
through
the
house,
because
with
the
way
these
buildings
are
stacked
it,
you
can't
see
them
all
from
one
one
perspective
so
again:
garden,
structure,
carriage
house,
primary
structure-
this
shows
just
a
section
through
part
of
the
main
structure,
but
they
also
have
provided
one
through
the
split
of
the
carriage
house
and
the
enclosed
breezeway
here.
So
you
can
see
what
is
behind
the
porches
here
and
then
they've
also
provided
a
cut
through
the.
C
C
C
Barnacle
cut,
which
is
the
other
side,
so
the
garage
doors
would
be
on
the
back
side
of
this
portion
of
the
structure
right
here
and
the
pool
would
be
behind
this
pierced
brick
wall
here
for
reference
to
the
site
plan,
so
you've
got
garden,
structure,
carriage
house,
primary
structure
here
and
then
supplemental
for
the
right,
because
there
is
that
pierced,
brick
wall
you
can
see.
There
are
no
other
windows
on
the
garden
structure.
C
Here
is
the
section
through
the
full
carriage
house
primary
structure,
so
you
can
see
those
garage
doors
where
I
was
indicating
them,
and
then
this
is
a
section
behind
the
pierce
brick
wall
and
through
the
main
mass
of
that
primary
structure.
So
you
can
see
the
windows
which
were
behind
the
porch
in
here,
so
you've
got
things
that
block
it
things
that
no
longer
block
it.
C
I
have
included
for
you
all
of
the
sections
and
details
that
they
provided.
They
have
foundation
piers
water
tables
soffits.
Just
about
everything
you
can
imagine
here,
which
is
wonderful.
Thank
you
so
much
for
giving
me
all
the
things
that
I
asked
for
in
there
there's
the
bracket
detailing
for
the
carriage
house,
as
well
as
the
primary
structure.
They
have
the
railing
detail.
C
C
It's
not
how
they
gave
it
to
me,
but
this
is
the
windows
and
doors,
so
I
cut
the
doors
right
where
it
ended
at
the
exterior
doors,
because
the
interior
doors
they
are
included
in
your
packet,
but
in
order
to
be
able
to
read
them
on
the
screen,
I
left
it.
So
it
was
just
the
exterior
doors
for
you
guys
tonight
and
then
the
all
of
the
door
images
that
they
provided
for
us
as
well.
C
So
again,
you've
got
garden
structure,
carriage
house,
primary
structure,
garden
carriage
primary
primary,
where
you
can't
see
either
of
the
carriage
house
or
the
garden
structure,
because
they
are
diagonally
behind
this
one.
And
then
this
one
is
primary
carriage
garden
garden
carriage
primary
and
I'm
going
to
not
do
the
less
three.
For
you.
C
C
C
C
It
is,
it
is
in
the
packet
that
you've
had,
but
on
the
screen
it
gets
really
small
when
it's
on
the
same
sheet
as
the
full
landscape
plan.
So
I
try
and
get
them
as
big
as
I
can
on
the
screen
for
you
all
and
then
this
is
the
canopy
coverage
details.
So
this
has
the
areas
which
are
all
areas
that
are
not
covered
by
rooftops.
So
it's
the
75
canopy
coverage
not
including
rooftops,
and
you
can
see
that
in
the
hatched
area
here
how
that
map
has
been
broken
down.
C
As
this
is
a
certificate
of
appropriateness,
application,
the
hpc
reviews,
the
eight
criteria
which
are
set
forth
in
section
3183
of
our
unified
development
ordinance,
and
they
have
the
authority
to
take
the
following
action.
They
can
approve.
The
application
is
submitted
by
the
applicant,
approve
the
application
with
conditions
or
deny
the
application
as
submitted
by
the
applicant
after
they
have,
of
course,
reviewed
those
criteria.
C
C
The
proposed
primary
structure
is
4866
square
feet.
It
is
shown
as
4865
in
their
calculations
and
then
the
carport
structure
is
approximately
954
square
feet.
They've
got
it
shown
as
1135,
so
it
is
a
difference
of
about
200
square
feet
where
it
is,
and
that
is
a
really
rough
estimate
guys.
My
details
are
in
the
stopper
board
here,
but.
C
C
When
there
is
an
attached
carriage
house,
because
there
is
a
carriage
house,
has
building
standards
that
are
associated
with
it,
and
the
architecture
needs
to
reflect
that
there
is
a
break
between
the
two
structures
in
order
to
be
able
to
have
that
attached
carriage
house
within
the
historic
district,
the
mass
and
scale
of
structures.
The
mass
of
these
structures
is
actually
what
is
the
density
factor
for
lots
within
the
historic
district.
We
don't
have
a
floor
area
ratio.
Instead,
we
have
that
maximum
footprint
and
maximum
square
footage
for
a
structure
with
this
one.
C
Oops
in
the
3d
rendering
here
you
can
kind
of
see,
here's
the
architectural
break
for
that
carriage
house,
which
is
where
that
square-footed
square
footage
would
be
calculated
by
and
in
the
calculations,
it's
being
shown
as
the
portion
of
the
enclosed
breezeway.
But
it's
not
exactly
a
breezeway
because
it
is
livable
space
in
there.
C
So
it's
the
rear
addition
of
the
structure,
so
this
portion
here
is
being
counted
in
yellow
on
the
first
floor
and
then
it
jumps
over
to
follow
the
architectural
break
in
the
structure
and
they've
counted
the
second
floor
as
just
this
portion
here.
So
the
carriage
house
has
no
issue
with
the
square
footage.
B
Can
we
go
through
these
items
individually?
If
that's
all
right
like
you
have-
and
I
guess
this
is
probably
one
of
the
biggest
issues
that
we
have
on
this
project
it
looks
like
yes,
would
it
be
appropriate
to
possibly
get
the
applicant
to
address
the
way
that
they've
designated
this
and
if
it
could
be
adjusted
or
something
absolutely.
C
B
Yeah,
I
guess
we
could
go
through
the
rest
of
the
items,
because
I
think
this
is
the
one
that's
going
to
be
the
stickler
on
this
project.
That's
what
I'm
just
looking
at
if
I'm
looking
through
and
reading
through
this.
So
why
don't?
We
just
go
through
them
all
and
then
we'll
address
that
to
the
applicant
afterwards.
So
if
you're
prepared
to
do
that,
that
would
be
helpful.
C
C
C
B
C
Do
not
have
a
number,
however.
The
typical
number
that
has
been
used
in
the
past
has
been
about
four.
This
is
a
bit
larger
structure
than
some
of
those
and
so
additional
windows
sizes.
Besides,
that
could
be
something
that's
proposed.
However,
it
should
be
as
few
as
possible
and
the
addendum
text
that
we
use,
which
is
the
traditional
construction
patterns,
which
is
referenced
in
section
515.5
of
the
udo.
C
Building
design,
it
should
be
that
the
pain
size
from
the
smallest
to
the
largest,
not
including
square
panes,
should
be
no
more
than
20
percent
difference.
So
this
one
is
it's
sitting
at
about
22
or
so,
and
then
for
classical
architectural
design.
It
should
be
about
12
variation
so
somewhere
in
between
there,
if
it
is
a
classical
design
b12.
This
is
more
of
a
vernacular
design,
so
it
would
be
closer
to
that
20
percent,
but
with
14
different
window
types,
10
different
pain
proportions,
that's
something
that
should
be
addressed.
C
C
F
From
myself,
whereas
hearty
is
a
cementitious
material
oral
is
a
composite
material
made
of
fly
ash,
which
is
a
byproduct
of
gold-burning
power
plants,
mixed
in
essence,
with
a
with
an
epoxy
resin
and
it's
it's
compressed,
it's
mixed
together
and
it's
compressed,
and
it
has
two
different
textures
one
that
is
a
more
rough
wood
grain.
The
other
one
is
a
very
tight
grain
from
a
distance.
It
does
finish,
expect
in
my
opinion,
exceedingly
well
and
is
a
good
substitute
for,
or
wood
in
choosing
a
composite
material.
So.
C
C
And
that's
just
fine,
it's
so
the
railings
balustrades
trim
pieces
things
like
that
does
not
specifically
allow
for
the
use
of
boral
or
for
recycled
or
green
materials
in
our
unified
development
language.
However,
there
is
a
section
of
that
traditional
construction
patterns
which
talks
to
alternate
materials
and
when
they
should
be
permitted,
they
talk
about
the
five-foot
rule
and
whether
it
can
be
if
it
is
something
that
is
out
of
reach.
It
is
more
likely
to
be
able
to
be
a
material.
C
That
is
not
something
that
is
a
substitute
or
not
something
that
is
a
standard
material,
not
a
wood,
a
metal,
something
very
durable
to
touch
or
it
needs
to
be
able
to
pass
the
touch
role.
In
this
case,
the
way
that
borel
feels
feels
very
similar
to
a
hearty
material,
almost
where
it
is
almost
cemented.
Some
cementitious,
I'm
missing
a
syllable,
material
and
staff
has
no
issue
with
the
substitute
of
these,
but
a
determination
does
need
to
be
made
by
you
all
it
has
been
tested
in
the
field.
C
It
is
something
that
is
is
becoming
a
bit
more
of
a
standard
than
it
has
been
in
the
past.
Josh's,
I
spoke
to
him
for
a
moment
about
it
and
he
has
used
it
on
many
of
his
projects.
It
doesn't
chip
when
it
is
cut,
so
it
can
be
cut
in
the
field
without
creating
break
marks,
and
things
like
that,
so
it
is
up
to
you
all.
C
B
F
In
the
world
of
construction
materials,
it
really
came
on
the
scene
in
our
area,
for
at
least
for
me,
for
the
first
time,
maybe
four
to
five
years
ago.
So
I
think
a
lot
of
our
wording
in
our
our
references
to
materials
predate
boral,
robbing
here
and
being
used
as
a
design
product.
I
personally,
I
think
that
it
has
a
cleaner,
finished
texture
than
heart.
F
F
They
don't
make
it
anymore,
so
we're
going
to
continue
to
see
if
anybody
wants
a
thicker
reveal
of
a
lap
siding-
and
that's
not
what's
being
necessarily
proposed
here
for
that
use
for
the
siding.
But
if
anybody
wants
anything
thicker
than
that,
5
16
we're
going
to
see
more
wood
products
or
substitutions
of
newer
composite
materials.
C
The
next
item
is
that
the
door
table
needs
to
be
updated
to
include
the
type
and
finish
of
the
proposed
exterior
doors.
Currently
they
see
they
say
type
in
material
to
be
picked
by
gc,
slash
owner.
We
just
need
to
ensure
that
those
are
meeting
the
wood,
metal
or
metal
cloud
standard
that
is
listed
in
our
unified
development
ordinance.
C
The
eighth
item
is
that
there
are
two
different
hardy
sightings.
The
primary
sighting
is
a
seven-inch
reveal
with
a
three
inch
reveal
panel.
That
must
be
revised
to
only
have
a
change
at
a
next
year
corner
section,
5156
and
of
our
unified
development
ordinance
notes
that
material
changes
shall
take
place
at
an
exterior
corner
so
that
I'm
sorry
interior
corner
to
the
right
exterior.
C
C
C
C
Yes,
so
the
use
of
a
change
in
material
in
the
same
elevation
or
a
closed
shutter
are
both
not
something
that's
permitted
by
our
unified
development
ordinance.
This
is
not
a
closed
shutter.
It
is
a
siding
material.
However,
the
use
of
a
closed
shutter,
especially
when
there
are
no
other
shutters
used
on
the
structure,
is
something
that's
not
permitted
by
our
unified
development,
ordinance.
B
F
C
The
eighth
item
is
that
the
mass
and
scale
of
the
structure
exceeds
that
which
is
appropriate
for
the
property.
That
does
go
back
to
number
one
here,
that
is
exceeding
the
maximum
footprint
of
the
structure,
and
then
the
tenth
one
is
that
a
tree
removal
permit
from
the
town
of
lofton
is
required,
as
they
are
removing
trees
that
exceed
that
eight
inches
in
diameter.
At
breast
height.
C
B
C
C
C
C
H
H
Katie
did
an
excellent
job
of
of
recapping
everything
we're
trying
to
do
here.
I
take
issue
with
one
or
two
of
the
comments,
but
it's
not
personal
issue.
It's
just.
I
think
we
see
differently
about
the
massing
of
the
architecture
of
the
10
staff
findings.
Just
in
an
effort
to
kind
of
help,
speed
things
along,
I
don't
see,
I
don't
think
there.
We
have
any
issue
with
three
four
five,
six,
seven,
eight
or
ten.
H
H
I
would
hope
we
don't
get
into
a
situation
in
this
town
where
we're
only
allowed
a
certain
number
of
window
types,
but
if
you
would
like
us
to
reduce
the
number
of
them,
we
could
certainly
do
that.
We
could
absolutely
accommodate
that.
I
will
echo
josh
quickly,
just
just
for
general
purpose.
We
use
boral
non-stop
at
this
day
and
age.
It
is
a
great
product.
I
think.
If
the
boral
reps
came
here,
they
would
tell
you
how
wonderfully
green
it
is.
H
I
think
katie's
right
to
be
a
little
skeptical
like
it's
it's
as
good
as
hardy
is,
I
mean
like
we're,
not
tearing
trees
down,
and
there
is
post
consumer
recycled
content
in
there.
But,
more
importantly,
it
looks
better
than
hearty
trim.
It
paints
better
than
hardy
trim.
The
finished
product
is
better.
The
dimensional
thicknesses
are
better
it's
a
great
product,
it's
really
expensive,
but
it's
a
great
product.
B
H
B
F
We
have
talked
about
it
in
the
past.
I
know
the
staff
has
looked
into
this
material,
so
it's
not
necessarily
new
to
them.
It's
the
first
time
it's
been
brought
before
us,
but
we're
going
to
see
more
and
more
materials
and
some
materials
will
not
be
considered
and
other
materials
should
be
considered.
B
And
I
guess
the
reason
that
we
wrote
the
udl
in
the
way
that
we
did.
Is
we
didn't
look
we're
you
know
at
that
time?
Different
products
other
than
wood
were
really
ugly
and
really
cheap,
and
we
were
trying
to
prevent
that
look.
So
now
it
sounds
like
the
technology
is
increased
in
bringing
better
products.
I
agree.
I
H
A
different
opinion
on
the
use
of
closed
shutters
as
an
option
to
create
articulation.
I
think
it
can
be
done
very
effectively
and
there
are
several
precedents
for
it,
but
I
know
that
we're
not
allowed
to
do
that.
Obviously,
creating
some
sort
of
louver
detail
or
look
and
feel
using
mixtures
of
materials
is
a
way
to
create
balance
on
an
architectural
elevation,
creating
the
articulation
that
is
exactly
described
within
the
udo.
H
But
if
we
don't
want
it,
and
we
don't
want
to
see
it,
I'm
happy
to
remove
it
like,
I
think
it
will
leave
a
more
blank
facade
there,
but
based
on
the
desire
of
the
clients
in
terms
of
the
interior
use
of
that
space,
we're
not
going
to
put
windows
there.
So
the
best
you
know,
sort
of
thing
I
can
do
to
help
create
balance
on
what
is
a
reasonably
public
street
is
to
use
transom
shaped
windows
and
then
create
some
sort
of
articulation
that
helps
to
trick
the
eye
that
that
was
our
goal.
F
H
But
we
had
this
conversation
with
staff.
I
think
katie
was
actually
out
that
day,
but
we
did
talk
about
it
and
the
concern
was
because
my
recommendation
was:
can
we
just
do
a
solid
panel,
much
like
you're,
describing?
I
think
the
concern
was
that
that
might
read
like
a
shutter
and
that's
kind
of
where
I'm
going
with.
F
C
So
is
this
on
yeah
this
one,
okay,
so
shutters
closed
shutters
are
specifically
prohibited
by
our
ordinance.
That
was
one
of
the
architectural
changes
that
did
go
through
town
council
fairly
recently.
I
think
it's
like
march,
but
don't
quote
me
on
march,
because
it
could
have
been
the
november
issue
or
there
have
been
several
versions
of
this.
C
B
H
F
H
A
C
H
F
C
B
J
I
would
kind
of
argue,
then,
that
it's
going
back
to
a
shutter
look
and
that's,
I
think,
that's
the
larger
question
here
is
it's
a
closed.
Shutter
application,
I'm
not
arguing
against
it
as
a
general
practice.
We
do
it
all
the
time,
but
just
that
the
udo
is
stating
that
closed
shutters
or
the
appearance
of
close
shutters
are
not
allowed
just
by
changing
the
material.
I
don't
think
it's
I
don't
know.
I
think
it's
neither
here
nor
there
now
you're,
not
exciting.
That's
a
fixed
panel.
It's
not
a
shutter.
H
J
J
E
I
mean
to
me,
this
is
just
I
think
the
elevation
either
they
go
away
entirely,
including
the
transoms
or
they
become
windows.
I
mean
you,
could
you
know
I
think
landscape
was
mentioned,
I
mean
you
could
go
more
vertical
there
to
kind
of
soften
that
area.
I
know
it's
only
a
five
foot
zone,
but
it
is
important.
B
H
H
F
Yeah,
I
personally
am
not,
as
opposed
to
having
closed
shutters
when
they're
done
tastefully,
given
the
fact
that
this
house
does
not
have
any
shutters
anywhere
else
right.
I
think
that
it
doesn't
favor
that
argument
if
it
had
shutters
everywhere
and
with
these
were
shut,
I
would
be
all
for
it.
I
wouldn't
have
any
issue
whatsoever.
F
I
F
F
This
is
something
that
came
before
us
not
too
long
ago,
the
idea
of
using
composite
shutters
and
even
new
horizon,
which
came
before
the
the
committee
and
it
was
shot
down.
I
was
not
a
proponent
of
not
allowing
that,
because
I
feel
that
it's
more
difficult
to
get
good
shutters
built
out
of
than
if
these
were
to
be
a
new
horizon
quality
shutter,
which
is
what's
shown
here
and
noted
here,
the
boreal
louver
panel,
with
that
vertical
component.
H
J
And
just
to
add
to
that,
to
that
point
I
wouldn't
mind
seeing
that
same
oral
louver
panel
detail
in
the
windows
themselves.
Just
from
a
I
know,
shutter
closed
shutters
are
not
allowed
unless
they're
around
the
entire
house,
but
from
the
for
the
sake
of
talking
through
how
it
would
have
been
done
historically
say.
For
instance,
there
were
windows
below
that
transom
someone
moved
into
this
historic
house
and
they
wanted
a
tv
in
there
and
it
would
be
darker,
so
they
would
close
it
off.
J
F
H
H
H
So
I
realize
we
don't
have
a
hyphen
type
and
we
don't
have
square
footage
that
we're
allowed
to
associate
to
a
hyphen.
So
we
have
been
very
careful
to
make
sure
that
the
square
footage
on
the
floor
plate
itself,
which
seems
to
be
the
most
critical
that
the
main
house
does
not
read,
in
my
opinion,
more
than
two
thousand
square
feet
and
that
the
carriage
house
does
not
read
more
than
800
square
feet.
So
I
don't
think
it's
an
issue
of
the
allowable
square
footage
on
the
floor.
H
Plate
where
I
think
staff
is
coming
back
is
saying
we're
not
sure
exactly
how
you're
articulating
this
and
and
to
the
best
of
my
knowledge.
The
way
that
I
can
describe
it
is
that,
with
the
main
house,
we
really
do
feel
like
we
are
stopping
at
the
door
right.
It
is
a
use
situation.
The
minute
you
walk
out
into
what
is
garage
space
you're
in
the
garage
you're
in
the
carriage
house.
H
There
is
no
perfect
science
and
I
don't
see
anywhere
in
the
documentation
where
it
specifically
says
you
must
use
a
butter
knife
approach
to
how
we're
going
to
calculate
the
square
footage.
So,
yes,
we
have
gone
out
of
our
way
to
articulate
the
footprint
and
the
exterior
elevation,
because
this
is
and
again
this
we
wanted
to
put
most
of
this
mass
on
the
the
alley
elevation,
so
that
barnacle
cut
takes
less
brunt
of
the
size
of
the
footprint,
but
we're
articulating
both
sides.
H
We
are
articulating
this
very
carefully
to
make
sure
it
reads
like
a
two-car
carriage
house
with
a
hyphen,
a
connector
wing
that
would
have
been
generational
and
added
over
time
and
lightly
touching
the
ground
but
but
and
lower
in
scale
than
either
of
the
other
two,
but
it
does
it
be
because
there
is
no
requirement
for
how
we
use
the
program.
The
second
floor
is
the
second
floor.
This
is
not
a
situation
where
we
have
a
carriage
house.
H
That
is
truly
a
carriage
suite,
nor
does
it
say
we
have
to
use
it
for
that
purpose.
But
we
have
this
square
footage
on
the
second
floor,
we're
not
over
on
any
means
other
than
if
we
use
this
sort
of.
We
have
to
slice
where
red
is
right,
because,
in
my
humble
opinion,
we've
done
a
pretty
good
job
of
trying
to
disguise
and
show
the
smallest
main
house
we
possibly
could
and
the
smallest
appearance
of
carriage
house
as
we
possibly
could
and
we're
using
that
hyphen
connector
much
the
same
way.
H
You
would
use
a
hyphen
in
a
situation
where
you
had
a
historic
main
building
and
dependency
wings
and
hyphens
that
connected
them
over
time.
So
I
appreciate
that
we're
struggling
with
the
square
footage
the
way
we're
adding
the
square
footage,
but
I
can't
assure
you
that
when
we
add
them
all
up,
we
still
stay
within
the
allowances.
H
Unless
you
tell
me,
we
have
to
slice
straight
down
and
I
just
don't
see
that
buried
in
the
udo,
at
least
not
in
my
interpretation-
and
I
know
that's
not
staff's
interpretation,
but
I
think
you've
got
to
give
us.
I
hope
you
will
give
us
some
latitude,
because
we
should
really
be
more
concerned
about
the
exterior
articulation
of
massing
than
we
should
be
about
the
exact
square
footage
I'm
playing
the
game.
H
B
H
C
H
H
H
We
would
leave
the
second
floor
just
like
it
is.
I
mean
there
would
be
a
bit
behind
the
service
yard
wall.
Yes,
you
would
see
a
little
bit
of
wall
that
that
wouldn't
be
there,
but
the
reality
is
the
massing.
I
mean,
if
we're
concerned,
about
massing
and
and
and
like
this,
this
has
gone
to
h-a-r-b
at
tabby.
H
K
J
Yeah,
I
think
the
articulation
of
it
is
not
the
issue.
It's
it's
very
well
articulated
between
the
different
pieces
and
it
does
feel
like
the
main
house
was
its
own
piece.
The
carriage
house
was
its
own
piece
and
then
it
was
hyphenated
or
connected
at
some
point,
but
I
think
the
idea
that
the
square
footage
was
getting
after
was
this
the
scale
that
it
ends
up,
resulting
in
which
was
the
last
comment
and
I
think
the
more
important
one.
H
It's
a
big
lot,
though
yeah.
If
we
look
at
ratios
of
square
footage
compared
to
lot
size,
there
are
certainly
bigger
comparables.
So
I
I
do
I
mean
this
was
discussed
with
tabby
road,
so
I
don't
think
that
I
and
I
almost
want
to
take
issue
with
nine.
I
don't
want
to
be
combative
about
it
but
like.
Why
do
we
even
have
an
architectural
review
board
over
there?
If
we're
going
to
say
that
that
the
scale
and
proportion
are
not
fitting
for
the
community,
I
mean
that's
the
I
mean
I
do
get
it,
but
yeah.
J
B
G
H
L
I
think
please
again
for
the
record,
as
as
I
do
most
meetings,
my
name
is
richardson
lebruce
would
think
about
brooks
and
liberus
I'm
bill
head
and
I'm
here
serving
on
behalf
of
the
historic
preservation
commission.
So
any
questions
you
may
have
I'm
here
to
answer.
The
we've
talked
about
massing
before
in
the
past
historic
district
and
its
massing
is
intentionally
subjective
under
the
udo.
L
L
Agreed
to
between
the
owners
when
they
help
set
up
that
community
and
is
not
again,
it
is
not
determinative
for
what
needs
to
be
decided
here
at
the
hpc
you'll
have
your
own
set
of
guidelines
to
follow,
which
are
the
which
is
set
forth
in
the
udo,
some
of
which
are
objective.
Certain
things
you
just
cannot.
You
cannot
do
in
the
historic
district
under
our
zoning
laws.
There
are
other
things
that
are
left
to
your
discretion
and
that's.
I
L
H
I
L
H
L
H
H
B
H
H
And
go
back
to
my,
let
me
go
back
to
my
first
one
when
my
second
floor,
we
calculate
slightly
differently
because
we're
basing
it
on
articulation
not
on
use
because
the
use
is
common.
Now
I
don't
see
anywhere
where
we
are
not
allowed
to
do
that,
because
we
are
articulating
the
elevation,
but
I
don't
see
where
it
says
you
have
to
do
it
one
way,
in
other
words,
there's
no
part
of
the
first
floor.
H
H
I
L
I
H
I
L
I
L
L
I
L
L
H
There
is
not,
there
is
a
threshold,
sorry
I
keep
so
and,
and
I'm
trying
to
help
you
guys
get
back
to
where
that
180
one
square
foot
discrepancy
is,
is
literally
right
at
the
line
of
the
back
door
of
the
house
as
you
leave
to
go
into
the
garage
space
or
the
carriage
house
space.
So
our
argument
is
that
is
where
the
main
house
stops,
because
it
is
roughly
in
line
with
the
main
house,
and
it
is
the
end
of
the
intended
use
of
the
main
house.
H
If
we
go
with
that
rule,
if
we
go
with
that
philosophy,
we
are
1999
square
feet
on
the
right
hand,
side
and
we're
setting
794
on
the
left
hand
side,
so
we
are
compliant
there
is.
We
are
not
over
on
square
footage
at
all.
If,
however,
we
take
the
position
of
staff-
and
I
don't
want
to
make
their
position
for
them-
but
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
do
it-
which
is
you
know-
we
see
the
edge
of
the
garage
here.
H
It
doesn't
matter
that
some
of
this
is
garage
function
and
access
to
trash
yards,
but
because
it
is
it
steps
out
and
that's
where
the
articulation
is,
that's
where
we
should
count
the
garage,
in
which
case
the
garage
gets
way
smaller
than
it's
allowed
to
be
okay,
but
because
of
that,
we're
going
to
have
to
count
this
little
portion
here
and
make
the
main
house
bigger
than
it
should
be,
and
that's
the
181
square
foot
that
staff
has
presented
as
an
overage.
I
just
disagree
either
way.
The
building
is
the
same
exact
size.
H
H
Yes,
in
order
to
get
to
basically
in
order
to
get
to
the
access
to
the
trash
guard
and
everything,
so
we
have,
we
have
to
step
up.
We
got
to
make
that
transition
somewhere.
I
can
I
need
to
allow
access
to
trash.
I
don't
want
that
door
to
be
in
the
garage.
I
don't
want
it
to
be
in
the
proximity
of
the
doors
of
the
garage,
so
it
needs
to
come
around
the
corner.
I
could
move
that
stair
anywhere.
I
wanted
in
this
l.
If
that
made,
everybody
feel
better.
B
H
That
leads
to
the
actual
master
bedroom,
so
there
is
articulation
there.
That
says,
and-
and
this
was
one
of
the
town's
requests
staff's
request
is
further
articulate
where
that
carriage
house
is
so
we
bumped
that
out.
We
tried
to
reduce
the
scale
of
the
connector
right,
so
the
hyphens
roof
drops.
I
mean
this
is
all
part
of
the
the
conversation
we've
had.
I
just
think
we
don't
disagree
on
how
to
count
the
square
footage.
The
square
footage
ends
up
the
same
one
way
or
the
other.
It's
just
yeah.
It's
amazing.
H
So
in
the
master
suite
the
reason
we
want
to
step
down
right,
there
is
to
just
bring
the
scale
down
again.
This
was
this
is
all
about.
There
is
a
lot
of
great
language
in
the
udo,
about
creating
secondary
structures
and
about
hyphens
and
connecting
elements
and
and
how
to
go
about
that.
So
the
the
the
goal
there
is
really
just
to
reduce
everything.
G
B
H
To
the
ceiling
this
one
in
the
bottom
is
probably
your
best
visual
bottom
left
because
really
from
barnacle
cut
you're
going
to
see
the
main
house
close
up,
and
then
you
have
the
courtyard
with
the
pierce
brick
wall
and
the
hyphen
and
the
carriage
house
are
pushed
way
to
the
back.
But
that's
essentially
what's
taking
place
here,
we're
trying
to
keep
the
scale
of
this
roof
right
here
down
as
much
as
we
can.
So
we
want
to
step
down
sooner.
G
H
I
mean,
I
think
the
goal
is
to
pull
that
again
toward
ali
right
to
keep
it
away
and
then
to
to
allow
a
pause
or
a
breath
in
there
where
the
courtyard
is,
but
the
scale
and
proportion
of
the
buildings
themselves
is
not
all
that
different
than
what's
going
on
around
it
really
we're
not
wildly
different
in
size.
Here
we
are,
you
know
our
florida
floor
heights
are
very
similar,
our
window
proportions
and
sizes
very
similar,
but
this
is,
it
is
a
bigger
home,
but
it
is
not
out
of
scale
with
the
communities.
G
G
F
Let's
call
it
1999
square
feet
on
the
ground
floor,
1979.
On
the
second
floor,
when
I
think
about
the
massing
in
the
scale
and
the
size
of
this
house,
I
give
consideration
to
that
third
floor,
even
though
it
is
noted
as
total,
enclosed
and
not
heated,
that
is
707
square
feet.
We
do
the
math
on
that.
F
G
F
C
So
briefly,
commissioners-
the
oops-
I
don't
know-
which
is
the
historic
district,
because
it
does
not
have
it's
a-
I
guess-
subtracted
code
rather
than
an
additive
code.
The
maximum
allowed
density
is
based
on
the
dimensional
characteristics
established
for
each
building
type
in
combination
with
other
site
characteristics
that
may
limit
the
amount
of
land
able
to
accommodate
density.
These
other
site
characteristics
include
are
not
limited
to
lot
configuration
right-of-way,
easements,
protected
natural
resources,
open
space,
topography
and
parking.
Okay,
so
they've
got
their
parking.
The
topography
is
not
a
challenge.
C
N
C
C
So
you
have
a
challenge
of
that
with
the
math
thing,
the
consideration
for
these
lines
not
being
perpendicular
to
the
street
that
it
is
on-
or
I
guess
the
street
and
the
lot
lines
not
being
perpendicular
to
the
rest
of
the
development
because
they
built
it
at
30
degrees.
For
some
reason,
that
is
something
that's
taken
into
consideration.
C
It
may
have
a
single
or
double
height
front.
Porch
may
have
the
side
or
rear
wings
which
are
secondary
to
the
main
mass
of
the
building.
So
this
wing,
that
is
the
hyphen.
This
is
a
rear
wing
that
has
been
added
on
to
the
primary
mass
of
this
structure,
so
it
would
be
counted
towards
a
center
hall
house.
A
center
house
very
well
could
have
rear
side
wings.
C
In
this
case
it
has
a
mostly
rear
wing
that
is
kind
of
sticking
out
to
the
side
as
well,
but
then
it's
also
typically
40
to
55
feet
wide,
which
is
which
this
this
meets.
The
criteria
for
that.
So
because
of
that
description
of
the
central
house,
when
a
structure
is
attached,
so
if
they
had
two
structures
that
were
detached,
it
is
very
possible
that
they
could
have
that
2000
square
foot
footprint
and
also
an
800
square
foot
footprint
somewhere
else
on
the
lot.
How
this
is
being
configured
does
not
allow
for
that.
C
C
Is
an
accessory
structure
between
200
and
1200
square
feet?
It
has
maximum
footprint,
not
included
fortress
of
800
square
feet.
It
is
one
to
two
stories
in
height.
It
must
be
an
accessory
structure.
Only
one
is
permitted
for
lot.
Unless
otherwise
noted
it
may
be
used
as
a
garage
living
unit
or
a
home
business
or
a
combination.
It
may
function
as
a
small
sketch
shop,
they're
limited
to
two
cars
with
a
maximum,
a
garage
or
width
of
12
feet,
and
it
must
be
of
the
same
general
character
as
the
primary
structure.
C
It
must
be
placed
behind
the
primary
structure
towards
the
back
of
the
lot.
So
while
if
this
were
one
a
hyphen
that
was
unenclosed
space,
it
would
not
count
towards
it.
That
is
an
acceptable
solution.
If
it
were
architecturally
delineated
as
a
portion
of
this
carriage
house
mass,
that
would
be
fine
if
it
was
a
standalone
structure.
That
would
also
be
something
that
could
be
found
acceptable
if
it
was
a
standalone
structure
and
that,
second,
that
rear
wing
was
still
a
portion
of
the
primary
house.
B
But
but
it's
all
going
back
to
where
you're
delineating
this
to
that
right.
So
again,
we're
looking
at
an
objective
number
here
and
objectively
we're
looking
at.
Is
it
massing
or
is
it
square
footage,
and
so
I'm
just
trying
to
close
this
up,
because
I
think
we
could
talk
about
the
salmon
and
wow
and
we're
not
going
to
get
anywhere
because
I
think
we're
all
in
the
disclaimer
there's
there's
conversations
going
on
here
and
I
kind
of
need
to
come
up
with
a
finalization
here.
So
instead
of
continually
talking
about
issues
over
and
over,
what?
L
I
L
L
I
think
both
the
applicant
and
staff
say
yes,
that
it
is
under
the
800
square
feet
and
then
finally,
the
third
question
is:
do
you
respect
the
other?
The
first
two
does
the
entire
structure
yeah
all
of
it
combined
the
entire
vertical
development
that
you
see?
Does
it
work
from
a
massing
and
scale
perspective,
because.
I
L
L
A
L
Four
base
coat
is
about
a
cohesive,
historic
district
and
a
design
and
massing
and
scale
perspective.
So
ultimately,
it
is
up
to
the
hbc
to
answer
those
really
those
three
questions,
but
there's
it
sounds
like
there's
only
two:
does
this
qualify
as
a
center
hall
house
and
the
2
000
square
foot
max
2000
square
foot
maximal
footprint
and
does
the
entire
development
work
from
a
massive
scale?
So
one
question:
I
want.
B
B
G
H
H
It
is
a
rear
appendage,
but
it
is
in
line
with
the
rear
porch,
and
we
could
have
gotten
that
at
199
or
199
we
could
have
built
that
and
we
could
have
stopped
and
there
would
be
no
garage
and
at
some
point
down
the
road
I
could
come
back
and
I
could
say
this
is
where
my
garage
is
going
to
start.
I
get
800
square
feet,
I
build
it
and
I
happen
to
enclose
and
connect
whatever
I
put
over
there
with
what's
over
here,
including
the
hyphen,
and
I
don't
again.
B
That's
what
I'm
trying
to
you
know
if
we're
doing
the
store
preservation,
we're
trying
to
make
things.
Look
like
there
was
a
possibility
of
this
being
built
at
different
times,
and
I'm
I'm
feeling
that
with
this,
in
my
opinion-
and
I
think
we
just
have
to
I'm
feeling
that
it
was
built-
in
other
words,
you're
articulating
it
in
a
different
way.
B
C
This
is
the
challenge
that
staff
is
having
is
that
the
square
footage
that
is
being
counted
on
the
floor
plan
is
inclusive
of
the
space.
That's
between
the
red
and
yellow
line.
On
the
first
floor
there,
which
is
part
of
that
wing
and
on
the
exterior,
it
does
appear
to
be
an
exterior
carriage
house
where
the
red
line
is
that
stacks.
C
H
But
to
that
point
exactly
what
bruce
described
is
I
could
have
easily
come
and
stopped
the
construction
here
and
not
had
a
hyphen.
Over
top,
it
could
have
been
a
one-story
connector
that
stopped
at
the
yellow
line,
and
when
I
came
back
to
you
the
very
next
day,
I'm
complete
with
my
construction
I'd
like
to
build
my
carriage
house
now.
I
can
mathematically.
H
E
G
B
E
E
I
think
I
do
agree
with
staff.
As
far
as
to
me,
the
carriage
house
either
has
to
be
the
area
in
red,
or
it
would
have
to
include
both
the
carriage
house
and
that
whole
appendix
connection.
I
don't
think
you
can
just
slice
and
dice
on
the
first
and
second
floor
to
get
under
the
square
footage.
For
me.
I
can't
I
think
that
is.
H
Yeah,
curiously,
if
if
we
were
to
pull
trying
to
get
the
cursor
issue
up
here,
you
know
pull
pull
the
columns
or
whatever
the
roof
forms
structure
out
in
line,
and
it
really
did
I
mean
I
don't
think
it
makes
the
project
better,
but
I
can
certainly
delineate
that
line
more
clearly
in
yellow
and
make
that
feel
like
the
second
floor.
Hyphen
was
built
over
time
and
this
I
can't
do
it
with
an
extra
garage
door,
but
I
could
certainly
pull
architecture
forward.
H
I
just
feel
like
we're,
adding
more
mass
we're
trying
to
actually
disguise
the
hype
and
not
not
celebrate
it
in
this
case,
but
but
if
that
were
the
because
I'm
not
trying
to
get
181
free
square
feet,
I'm
really
not
like
when
you
do
all
the
math
collectively
together
it
we're
still
within
the
taller
allowances,
but
if
the
hang
up
was
really
just,
we
need
this
to
be
better
articulated.
As
that
yellow
line
that
can
be
done.
B
H
I
still
fall
back
to
that
same
position,
though,
that
this
could
have
very
easily
been
a
one-story
structure
that
we
added
in
onto
the
very
next
year
and
we
still
comply,
but
I
get
it
so
if,
if
the
goal
had
been,
let's
make
celebrate
something
in
between
here,
a
little
more,
let's
bring
it
forward.
I
can
absolutely
do
that
and
we
could
say
that's
the
articulation.
B
B
B
I
guess
one
of
the
things
is:
we
need
to
come
up
with
a
decision
and
I
think
we
all
have
our
opinion
on
it
and
let's
have
somebody
what's
up.
What's
our
next
item
that
needs
to
be
discussed?
Is
there
anything
else
yeah
on
here?
I
think
we're
good
one
of
the
other
I
do
have
a
question.
Is
I
noticed
that
in
the
habitat
or
the
tabby
roads
is
that
they
had
quite
a
few
items
for
clarification
and
I'm
just
curious
if
you
met
these
requirements.
H
B
H
I
think
there
was
a
hiccup
between
rob
and
and
us
and
staff
just
trying
to
figure
out
which,
what
it
was
a
chicken
and
egg
thing
rob
was
saying
we
don't
give
you
final
until
hbc
gives
you
final
and
katie
said:
no,
that's
not
how
it
works.
You
guys
get
the
final
say.
So
he
wrote
us
a
conditional
approval
based
on
a
emergency
hard
meeting
and
they've
got
a
few
conditions.
They
want
us
to
address,
which
we
will
absolutely
do,
but
we
did
want
to
get
that
in
staff's
hands,
so
that
could
be
included.
B
So
I
know
that
I
don't
think
we
have
any
solution
here
as
far
as
the
whole
commission
goes,
but
I
think
we
do
need
to
come
up
to
a
point
of
making
a
decision
and
moving
on
and
if
we
could
ask
if
somebody
wants
to
make
a
motion
with
the
things
that
we
discussed
in
regards
to
the
information,
I
think
the
boreal.
We
need
to
address
that.
I
think
that
will
be
good.
If
somebody
made
a
motion
regards
to
possibly
setting
a
new
precedent
here,
was
there
any
other
windows?
B
L
L
L
L
L
J
I
D
O
F
Number
seven
for
the
previously
stated
windows
in
the
right
elevation
to
be
adjusted
and
reviewed
for
approval
at
staff
recommendation
where
it's
staff
level
for
number
eight.
The
three-inch
reveal
below
the
transom
windows
to
be
adjusted
for
approval
at
staff
level
for
number
nine
to
approve
the
scale
for
the
structure.
As
designed
number
10.
B
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B
L
B
L
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I
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I
I
H
I
think
we
would
be
happy
to
if
the
other
conditions
are
something
you
guys
can
get
behind
and
approve.
We
would
be
happy
to
not
only
work
with
staff,
but
also
represent
to
you.
At
I
mean
this
is
there's
not
a
rush
to
this.
I'm
happy
to
come
back
to
I'd
just
like
to
get
the
remaining
items
off
the
list
so
that
we
can
productively
move
forward.
So
if
it's
a
scale
and
motion,
I
mean
a
scale
and
mass
in
conversation.
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B
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You
essentially
aren't
starting
over
from
a
timing
perspective.
I'm
not
sure
if
it's
that
that
big
of
an
issue-
that's
probably
a
better
question
for
staff,
they
can
tell
you
what
it
means
from
a
timing
perspective.
I
would
think
that
you
don't
have
to
pick
your
table.
You
don't
have
to
pay
the
100.
Some
odd
dollar
application
fee.
B
L
You
know
certain
items
were
not
explicit,
but
it
does
appear
that
commissioner
smelter
simpson,
trimber
and
goodman
had
no
issues
with
the
square
footage
allocation
and
we,
but
it
was
more
about
the
massing
in
scale.
So
essentially
this
brings
it
largely
to
commissioner
simpson
in
requesting
that
second
motion,
it's
going.
L
B
C
The
second
item
we
have
before
us
tonight
is
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
for
an
addition
of
102
square
feet.
It's
an
outdoor
shower
area
on
an
existing
structure
of
2578
square
feet.
It's
a
single
family
residence,
it's
located
at
57-74,
yalpon
road,
which
is
lot
17a
in
the
stock
farm
development,
it's
in
the
old
town,
bluffton
store
district
and
it's
zoned,
neighborhood
general
on
the
site
plan
or
the
portion
of
the
site
plan
here.
This
is
the
rear
of
the
structure.
C
You'll
be
able
to
see
it
better
in
the
elevations,
and
it
is
in
your
staff.
Reports
that
you
have
before
you
today
on
the
left-hand
side
is
what
is
currently
existing
on.
The
right-hand
side
is
what
is
being
proposed,
so
you
can
see
here,
I've
clouded
it
in
red
for
you,
but
it
is
an
outdoor
shower
area.
C
The
reason
this
is
coming
before
you
is
because,
when
something
adds
a
roof
over
it,
no
matter
if
it
is
a
porch,
a
shower
or
whatever,
if
there
is
square
footage
being
added
under
a
roof,
it
has
to
come
before
the
historic
reservation
commission.
So
these
are
the
rear
elevations,
which
is
where
you
will
see
it.
The
most
the
rear
elevation
on
the
left
again
is
that
which
is
the
rendering
and
the
elevation
beneath
it
is
what
currently
exists
and
the
elevation
on
the
right
hand
side
is
the
proposed
modification
to
the
structure.
C
So
you
can
see
that
there
is
the
roof
overhang
here.
They've
changed
the
window
that
currently
exists
to
a
french
door
and
they
have
proposed
this
screening
so
that
there
is
an
outdoor
shower
in
this
space.
This
is
something
that
we
have
seen
before:
we've
seen
it
in
this
neighborhood
actually
before
as
well.
So
I'm
going
through
it
kind
of
fast.
I
am
happy
to
slow
down
go
backwards.
C
Do
whatever
you'd
like
in
order
to
answer
any
questions
you
have
again
top
one
is
the
left
elevation
you
can
see
below
here's
where
it
will
show
on
the
left
side.
You've
got
the
roof
overhang
as
well
as
the
porch,
which
has
the
screening
around
it.
In
order
to
allow
for
that
shower
from
the
right
elevation,
you
will
kind
of
see
it,
but
it
is
behind
the
screen.
Porch
so
you'll
see
the
roof.
C
You
can
see
portion
of
the
roof.
You
can
see
the
french
doors
as
well
as
the
stairs
up,
so
this
is
kind
of
like
a
nautilus
shell
where
it
wraps
around.
So
whoever
is
standing
on
the
street
if
they
were
standing.
Where
my
mouse
is
on
your
screen,
they
would
not
be
looking
at
somebody
in
that
outdoor
shower.
They
would
be
looking
at
a
panel
of
wall,
so
you
can
see
on
the
side
plan
here
how
that
kind
of
wraps
around.
So
there
is
a
panel
there,
as
well
as
the
other
thing.
C
The
landscape
plan:
it
is
very
minimal,
because
the
landscaping
for
this
site
does
exist.
They
are
not
removing
anything
except
for
a
couple
little
shrubs,
but
they
are
proposing
to
add
six
three
gallon
azaleas
as
well
as
I
can't
read
that,
because
my
eyesight
is
going.
However,
there
are
a
couple
other
plantings,
I'm
sorry
plants
they
are,
they
are
shrubs.
They
are
ground
cover,
so
that
is
all
that's
being
added
to
the
site.
No
trees
are
being
removed.
No
other
canopy
coverage
is
being
altered.
C
The
ancestry
there's
the
same
eight
review
criteria
that
are
located
in
section
318,
three
of
our
unified
development
ordinance
when
they
take
into
consideration
an
application
for
certificate
of
appropriateness
and
they
can
approve
the
application
is
submitted
by
the
applicant,
approve
the
application
with
conditions
or
deny
the
application,
as
submitted
by
the
applicant
town
staff,
found
that
the
only
condition
that
we
have
is
that
a
detail
showing
the
sewer
connection
for
the
outdoor
shower
needs
to
be
provided
to
watershed
management.
This
was
something
that
was
addressed
at
hprc,
but
we
just
didn't
have
the
details.
C
K
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P
Kathleen
duncan
jk
taylor,
we
had
discussed
doing
an
infiltration
basin
underneath,
and
so
there
was
an
internal
email
that
went
through
talking
about
that
with
some
kind
of
preliminary
discussions,
where
we
did
not
encounter
any
negative
feedback.
Regarding
that,
we
just
need
to
actually
provide
the
details
so
that
they
can
review
that
as
a
part
of
that.
B
C
If
I
might
suggest
just
altering
the
language
provide
a
detail
showing
the
connection
for
the
outdoor
sewer
for
watershed
management
review,
that
would
allow
them
to
do
it.
However,
watershed
sees
fit.
They
do
have
the
stormwater
manual
that
they
have
to
abide
by.
So
if
it
is
something
that
is
an
alternate
to
connection
to
the
sewer,
but
still
manages
to
infiltrate
that,
so
it's
not
an
illicit
discharge.
N
G
K
B
O
The
applicant
is
looking
to
renovate
and
reconstruct
the
546
square
foot
contributing
resource.
We
know
as
the
cory
hayward
home
or
number
three
wharf
street,
or
also
known
as
the
little
greenhouse
on
the
corner
and
the
old
town
bluffton
store
district
zone,
neighborhood
general
hd
for
your
references,
location
map,
south
east
corner
war,
street
may
river
road
across
from
the
watershed
building,
which
you
all
know
from
a
previous
hpc
meeting
current
site
plan,
the
house
on
the
lot
facing
warp
street
historic
photograph
as
the
historic
preservationist
I
like
to
throw
these
in
here.
O
O
O
So
tonight,
you're
to
consider
eight
review
criteria
set
forth
in
section
three
point:
eighteen
point:
three
that
you
do.
Furthermore,
you
have
the
authorization
to
approve
the
application
as
submitted,
approve
with
conditions
or
deny
the
application,
as
submitted
by
the
applicant
under
the
relevant
review
career.
There's
only
two
things
that
cause
concern
with
with
staff
under
318
3a
consistency
with
the
secretary
of
interior
standards.
O
Standard
number,
two
states
that
in
part,
the
historic
character
of
a
property
shall
be
retained
and
preserved.
The
removal
of
historical
materials
shall
be
avoided.
All
historic
materials
will
need
to
be
evaluated
repaired
or
replaced
with
like
in-kind
as
needed.
Any
historic
materials
which
will
be
required
replacement
will
need
to
be
identified
in
the
building
permit
drawings,
for
compliance.
O
O
So
that's
correct,
okay,
to
give
you
a
better
sense
of
what
we're
talking
about
when
we're
looking
at
column
size.
The
photograph
on
the
left,
current
condition,
the
drawing
on
the
right
shows
the
drawing
indicating
that
it
looks
similar,
which
is
what,
as
the
historical
preservation
is
telling
staff
is
what
we
would
be
looking
for.
So
the
reduced
four
by
four
size
needs
to
be
noted.
O
That's
correct,
so
staff
recommendation.
We
recommend
the
hpc
approve
the
application
with
the
conditions
that
any
materials
which
require
replacement
will
be
identified
in
the
building,
permit
drawings,
compliance
per
section
3183a
and
with
a
determination
of
the
appropriateness
of
the
reduced
porch
columns
from
a
six
by
six,
which
is
a
requirement
by
the
udo
to
a
four
by
four
per
section
of
the
five.
Sixteen
six
h
of
the
udo.
B
B
B
I
M
I
M
Signing
to
replace
areas
that
is
rotted,
so
we
found
a
really
great
resource
to
help
find
those
like
and
kind
materials.
So
they
just
want
to
be
able
to
have
this
as
their
little
family,
cottage
and
vibrant.
Again,
two
bedrooms.
We
did
have
on
the
back
a
new
addition,
which
is
the
bathrooms,
because
currently
there
are
bathrooms.
I
saw.