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Historic Preservation Commission - Special Meeting
Monday, October 17, 2022 at 6:00 PM
I. CALL TO ORDER
II. ROLL CALL
III. NOTICE REGARDING ADJOURNMENT
The Historic Preservation Commission will not hear new items after 9:30 p.m. unless authorized by
a majority vote of the Commission Members present. Items which have not been heard before
9:30 p.m. may be continued to the next regular meeting or a special meeting date as determined
by the Commission Members.
IV. NOTICE REGARDING PUBLIC COMMENTS*
Every member of the public who is recognized to speak shall address the Chairman and in
speaking, avoid disrespect to Commission, Staff, or other members of the Meeting. State your
name and address when speaking for the record. COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THREE (3)
MINUTES.
V. ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA
VI. ADOPTION OF MINUTES
VII. PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA*
VIII. OLD BUSINESS
1. Certificate of Appropriateness: A request by Pearce Scott Architects, on behalf of the owner
Billy Watterson, for approval of a Certificate of Appropriateness-HD to allow the reassembly
and rehabilitation of the 1,186 SF Contributing Resource known as the Deer Tongue
Warehouse with the existing 378 SF front porch, and the construction of a rear addition of
approximately 348 SF to the structure located at 1255 May River Road (Tax Parcel R610-039-
00A-0235-0000) in the Old Town Bluffton Historic District and zoned Neighborhood General-
HD. (COFA-06-22-0165821) (Staff-Glen Umberger)
IX. NEW BUSINESS
Town of Bluffton, SC Historic Preservation Commission - Special Meeting Agenda October 17, 2022
X. DISCUSSION
XI. ADJOURNMENT
NEXT MEETING DATE: Wednesday, November 2, 2022
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A
A
B
A
Notice
regarding
the
German,
the
historic
preservation
commission
will
not
hear
new
items
after
9
30..
He
was
authorized
by
a
majority
vote
of
the
commission
members
present
items
which
have
not
been
heard
before.
9
30
may
be
continued
to
the
next
regular
meeting
or
a
special
meeting
date
as
determined
by
the
commission
members
notice
regarding
public
comments.
Every
member
of
the
public,
who
is
recognized
to
speak,
shall
address
the
chairman,
in
speaking,
avoid
disrespect
of
the
commission
staff
and
other
members
of
the
meeting
state
your
name
and
address
him.
A
Speaking
for
the
record,
comments
are
limited
to
three
minutes
and
for
those
who
have
comments
pertaining
to
the
agenda
items
before
the
board
commission
this
evening,
you'll
have
the
opportunity
to
comment
before
the
board
commission
votes
on
the
item.
You
are
welcome
to
hold
your
comments
until
then
and
voice
your
comments
at
that
time,
and
it
looks
like
we
have
one.
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A
D
It
a
cabinet-
yes,
sir,
hey
good
evening,
council
members,
Commissioners
excuse
me
Kevin
and
I
current
director
of
garden
management
I'm
just
going
to
stand
up
just
briefly
to
kind
of
set
the
tone
of
this
evening.
Just
to
remind
you
of
why
we're
here
this
evening.
This
is
a
special
meeting.
I
think
there
were
some
concerns
in
the
previous
meeting
and
unfortunately,
I
could
not
attend
I.
Do
apologize
for
that
I.
D
Just
wanted
to
remind
you
and
Glenn
is
going
to
provide
a
little
bit
more
in-depth
review
of
this,
but
this
evening,
we're
here
for
the
certificate
of
apprentice
for
the
final
product
of
the
Jared
tongue.
Warehouse
future
Bluffton,
Gola,
Heritage
Museum,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
everyone
understands
that
as
we're
going
through
this
process
back
in
February,
you
guys
approved
the
relocation
of
the
structure.
So
in
that
current
view
the
structure
is
being
moved.
D
The
actual
process
of
how
that
was
going
to
happen
was
not
part
of
that
purview.
So
this
evening
the
focus
is
on
what
is
that
final
product,
the
final
product
and
then
using
the
review
criteria
that
you
have
in
the
staff
report
that
has
provided
at
the
previous
meeting
as
well
as
this
meeting.
So
as
you're
going
through
that
that
mindset
as
you're
reviewing
it
discussing
it
amongst
yourselves,
that
you
remember
that
you're
using
the
review
review.
D
F
A
G
A
F
You
all
right
so
tonight
this
is
part
two,
a
two-part
series
looking
at
1255
New
River
Road,
just
to
remind
you,
we're
speaking
about
1255
Bay
of
River
Road,
the
contributing
resource
currently
known
as
the
deer
tongue,
Warehouse,
here's,
the
zoning
and
location
maps,
current
conditions.
This
was,
as
of
October
3rd
of
the
property,
to
take
you
on
a
little
bit
of
a
review
of
what
happened
previously.
F
At
that
meeting
HPC,
it
approved
the
Kofa
with
the
following
conditions:
one
that
only
the
non-historic
portion
of
the
contributing
resource
building
was
to
be
demolished.
That's
the
northern
part
which
had
been
recently
used
as
the
kitchen
and
then
furthermore,
the
hvc
determined
that
the
1945
era,
historic
contributing
structure,
be
relocated
to
the
western
side
of
the
property
subject.
That
would
be
located
parallel
to
May
River
Road
and
cited
at
least
10
feet
from
the
side
property
line.
The
item
in
Gray
I
have
the
intentional
left
down.
F
So
that's
what
was
approved
jumping
forward
October
5th,
we
presented
an
application.
The
current
application
to
allow
the
reassembly
and
Rehabilitation
of
the
deer
ton
Warehouse
with
the
existence,
378
square
foot,
front
porch,
and
the
construction
of
a
new
Rio
edition
of
approximately
348
square
feet,
which
is
a
structure
now
located
at
1255.
Mill
River
Road,
might
be
helpful
every
once
in
a
while
to
do
a
review.
When
we
talk
about
Rehabilitation,
it's
not
just
a
word.
I
made
up
the
Secretary
of
the
Interior
has
devised
this
following
definition.
F
The
current
application
is
to
rehabilitate
the
deerington
warehouse.
I
gave
you
a
historic
photograph
from
the
left
and
I
gave
you
some
elevations
on
the
right
you're
looking
at
the
top
right,
which
is
the
front
elevation,
the
proposed
front
elevation
and
then
below.
That
is
the
rear
elevation
showing
that
addition,
as
proposed
proposed
side,
elevations
I'm,
giving
you
a
comparison
from
what
it
looks
like
now
to
what
the
proposed
will
look
like
on
the
top
left,
which
is
currently
the
Eastern
elevation
and
then
has
a
storm
out
for
proposed.
F
The
hvc
actions
tonight
you're
going
to
consider
the
eight
review
criteria
set
forth
in
the
Udo
Section
3
18
3,
when
assessing
an
application
first
associated
with
appropriateness.
Furthermore,
you're
authorized
to
take
the
following
actions:
you
can
apply.
You
can
approve
the
application
as
submitted.
You
can
approve
the
application
with
conditions
or
you
may
deny
the
application,
as
submitted
by
the
applicant.
F
In
the
staff
report
I've,
given
you
a
lot
of
pages
of
various
criteria
and
evaluations,
I've
highlighted
these
sticks,
which
you
need
to
concentrate
on
this
evening.
The
first
one
is
any
materials
which
require
replacement
will
be
identified
in
the
building
permit
drawings
for
compliance,
that's
under
Section,
318
3A,
also
under
318
3A.
F
F
The
applicant
has
since
specified
that
the
railings
are
written
powder
coated
aluminum.
You
heard
that
material
mentioned
in
the
previous
two
copies
that
we
saw
last
time
for
the
other
two
buildings
on
the
property
they're
just
asking
for
the
same
material
to
be
used
here.
That's
something
that
you
will
have
to
determine
whether
or
not
it's
an
appropriate
deviation
for
that
material.
F
Under
515
6K,
the
defense
Heist
needs
to
be
reduced
and
then,
as
with
the
other
two
copies
that
you
heard
related
to
this
project,
all
conditions
for
the
development
plan
will
need
to
be
addressed.
The
development
plan
will
need
to
be
reviewed,
the
subdivision
must
be
approved
and
recorded,
and
any
proposed
future
signage
will
require
a
separate
site
feature
HD
application,
I've
included
it
in
red
those
things
that
the
applicants
said
they
will
already
comply
with.
A
I
Sorry,
a
few
verifiable
comments
and
questions
facts:
verifiable
thanks,
January
6,
2022,
Cranston
engineering
wrote
it
is
our
understanding
that
the
intent
is
to
lift
and
relocate
the
building
on
the
same
property.
We
do
not
foresee
any
unusual
or
inordinate
risk
to
achieving
this
goal.
Unquote:
two
five
HPC
approved
relocation
and
Rehabilitation.
I
Six
six
applicants
submitted
relocation,
renovation
and
addition
eight
six.
Another
application
was
submitted
for
new
construction,
Rehabilitation
or
renovation,
Edition
relocation
or
demolition.
Nine
five
HPC
approves
relocation
and
reconstruction
on
peers
of
especially
unsound,
join
us
10-5,
HBC
denied
relocation
and
reconstruction
of
deer
10.
I
I
Have
they
been
influenced
by
the
structurally
unsound
joint
application
and
decision
that
you
made
Terry
sleece
on
the
new
art
policy
says
people
that
are
coming
in
may
not
necessarily
understand
the
history
of
the
community
and
what
it
makes
to
be
great.
Is
architecture
art,
yes,
architectural
digest,
4
4
18..
I
We
are
demolishing
sympathetically
dismantling
or
reassembling
a
piece
of
history
that
is
an
art
form
in
Bluffton
in
1945..
The
deer
tongue.
Warehouse
is
the
Craftsman
creation
to
store
fragrant
deer
tongue
leaves
to
be
shipped
to
perfumers.
We
are
using
atex
cells
to
buy
new
art
forms
and
demolishing
or
dismantling
our
historical
art
forms.
What
is
a
contributing
structure?
I
Is
it
a
building
that
was
constructed
more
than
50
years
ago?
That
retains
the
original
style
and
Architectural
qualities
that
contribute
to
the
historic
character
of
the
neighborhood
president
Graves
house,
structurally
sound
relocated
to
pierce,
join
a
house
structurally
unsound
reconstruction
to
Pro,
to
peers
deer
time,
Warehouse
structurally
sand
relocated
to
May
River
Road
on
Pierce
the
doctor's
office
stretch
Lee
and
Sam
dismantled
rebuilt
to
look
nothing
like
it
was
June.
2020
HBC
goes
against
stand
recommendations
to
deny
application
of
The
Bridge
Center
to
the
owner,
Mr
Waterson
who's.
I
A
K
And
code
study
report
prepared
by
our
office
or
subject,
building
data
January
6th
2022,
as
well
as
the
currently
proposed
plans
and
Designs
under
consideration,
while
there's
a
great
greater
Clarity
provided
in
the
proposed
end
usage
of
this
building
and
other
factors
may
now
be
present.
The
conclusions
in
our
professional
opinions
stated
in
the
report
remain
unchanged.
K
Two
points
of
clarification
with
regard
to
the
original
report.
May,
however,
be
used.
First,
all
work
performed
other
sperm
and
Associate
opinions
and
conclusions
are
strictly
limited
to
a
consideration
of
the
structure.
It
is
beyond
our
scope
and
expertise
to
evaluate
or
consider
any
life
safety
or
code
specification
requirements
such
as
accessibility,
egress,
fire
protection,
electrical
Mechanical,
plumbing
and
energy
or
other
requirements.
K
Second,
our
opinion
is
based
on
what
we
interpret
the
applicable
building
codes
require
for
the
structure
of
the
situation.
However,
International
existing
building
code,
2018
section
1201.5,
allows
the
code
official
to
ultimately
determine
if
any
unsaid
conditions
exist
and
if
so,
they
must
be
remedied.
Our
office
has
not
received
any
official
determinations
regarding
this
property.
Therefore,
any
future
decisions
have
not
been
considered.
In
our
opinion.
Thank
you
for
allowing
us
to.
E
K
K
If
the
building
would
be
picked
up
and
moved,
but
then,
after
that
happens,
can
it
be
used
for
this
commercial
use
because
we
have
to
then
bring
it
up
to
code
and
in
order
to
bring
it
up
to
code,
there
are
other
parts
and
pieces
that
go
along
with
that,
and
you
would
for
this
particular
one.
We
would
have
to
rebuild
a
framework
to
take
pieces
off
to
be
able
to
waterproof
and
put
things
back
on.
We
have
insulation,
I'll.
K
K
And
the
Flash
that
window
door
flashing,
The,
Vapor
Barrier
and
for
an
insulation
that
it
spoke
the
same
thing
you'd
need
hurricane
tie.
Downs
you'd
need
a
new
mechanical
new
electricals,
so
all
of
it's
the
same
except
for
now,
instead
of
just
if
we
picked
it
up
and
moved
it.
We'd
have
to
take
this
all
apart
to
then
put
it
back
together
and
so
I
think.
K
That's
where
the
confusion
is
of
with
the
structural
is
yes,
it's
a
building
that
you
know
sure
is
standing
up
and
it
can
be
moved,
but
in
order
to
bring
it
up
to
code
and
be
co-compliant,
there
are
other
things
and
other
factors
that
have
to
happen.
We
also
on
advisement
of
Staff
from
the
conceptual
meetings,
have
hired
a
firm
repurposed
Savannah
and
they
specifically
deconstruct
all
in
historic
buildings,
a
catalog
and
Survey
them
on
and
photograph
them.
So
I
have
Katie
with
repurpose
Diana.
K
G
G
G
K
G
K
K
K
M
M
Which
is
just
taking
out,
you
know,
auditions,
but
leaving
the
historic
structure.
We
have
done
entire
structural
removal,
but
we
do
focus
in
while
you're
sometimes
losing
the
ability
to
physically
interact
with
a
historic
structure,
the
process
of
which
we
go
about.
This
is
documentation,
documentation,
documentation
so
on
the
jobs
that
I
do
in
Savannah
and
I
do
partner
with
a
company
called
Shamrock
drones.
We
3D
scan
a
restructure
before
any
word.
H
M
You
know
you
see
the
or
the
ultimate
result
when
it's
finished
it
sounds
like
this
project
needs
a
lot
of
documentation,
a
part
of
it.
So
we
do
it
very
carefully,
very
slowly
and
in
lieu
of
traditional
demolition,
where
you
just
bulldoze
it
crush
it
up,
and
you
lose
the
majority
of
the
history
and
all
of
the
materials,
the
physical
materials
we
Salvage
them
and
or
save
them
nicely
off
for
reuse
in
potential
other
products.
M
K
M
A
M
M
You're
not
losing
the
structural
Integrity
or
like
the
historical
Integrity,
because
it
is
going
to
go,
live
on
in
a
new
location,
but,
like
I
said,
I
mean
essentially
deconstruct
or
unbuilding
it
to
rebuild.
So
this
is
something
that
city
of
Savannah
does
actually
the
city
of
San
Antonio
has
recently
hired
me
to
go
and
Train
50
contractors.
M
A
M
A
H
M
M
N
M
M
A
K
L
K
L
A
L
A
New
everything
that
I'm
needing
to
provide
and
it's
being
place
there
but
I
just
have
this
broken
box
that
needs
to
be
I'm
trying
to
get.
You
know
Clarity
for
everyone
to
say.
Okay
now,
I
got
a
broken
box
over
here,
but
I
got
to
take
the
whole
doubting
diagram
thing
apart,
because
I
got
a
new
hurricane
I
gotta.
You
know.
G
A
L
K
K
C
I
guess
it
it
just
I
I
think
that
there
is,
as
far
as
a
building's
historic
Integrity.
There
is
a
difference
between
repairing
something
and
trying
to
work
with
what
you
have
and
just
completely
building
a
new
frame.
I
mean
something:
that's
the
more
that
you're
able
to
keep
it's
more
historic
representation
of
that
structure.
I
guess
I'm,
just
I
just
am
concerned
about
that
in
the
ramifications
of
that
long
term.
For
this
commission,
I
guess
is
my
Mr
chairman.
D
A
L
D
E
E
D
L
H
H
N
L
H
N
H
H
L
F
F
F
F
N
A
J
Good
evening
members
commission
and
John
Irish,
some
more
Bruce
and
lebruce
I,
hear
on
behalf
of
the
HBC,
so
my
role
here
is
to
assist
in
guiding
y'all
and
making
a
decision.
Why
I
stood
up
here
and
wanted
to
come?
Speak
was
just
to
kind
of
for
lack
of
a
better
term.
Synopsize
what's
been
said,
or
what
at
least
I've
heard
and
hopefully
be
able
to
assist
with
y'all
rendering
a
decision.
So
there
are
questions
about.
You
know
the
the
relocation
of
this
building,
the
and
the
certificate
of
appropriateness.
J
That's
before
you,
what
I've
heard
commissioner
box
Bell
State
and
others
is
well.
Why
do
you
have
to
disassemble
to
relocate
and
I?
Don't
think?
That's
necessarily
what
the
applicant
is
saying.
The
applicant
began
this
process,
my
understanding,
looking
through
these
looking
through
the
documents
worth
the
relocation
of
an
intact
building.
That
was
the
intended
plan
back
in
February
and
the
the
documents
the
grandson
report
was
was
largely
in
support
of
that.
J
E
J
A
this
is
a
suitable
relocation
site
and
it's
been
approved,
that's
not
approved,
and
we
know
that
there
are,
as
glitches
said.
We
know
that
there
are
three.
There
are
three
different
relocation
techniques.
You
can
move
it
intact,
which
I
understand
is
likely
the
preferred
or
the
preferred
method,
but.
J
The
partial
disassembly
or
the
total
disassembly,
but
what
we
have
is
you've
already
approved
the
relocation
which
method
they
choose
as
you've
heard
staff
State
about
the
UDA.
That's
that's!
That
is
a
applicant
decision
like
with
most
construction
techniques,
because
things
are
going
to
happen
on
the
ground
on.
D
L
J
And
I
they
mentioned
a
little
bit
of
my
own
research,
and
this
was
from
a
a
HUD
publication
that
you
know
it's
it's
oftentimes
more
expensive
to
do
that.
This
is
important
if
a
president,
most
folks,
when
they're
doing
the
relocation
are
going
to
try
to
do
the
impact,
because
that
is
substantially
substantially
cheaper
and
more
cost
effective
than
doing
a
full
catalog
total
disassembly,
like
is
being
proposed
by
the
applicant.
This
sort
of
extensive
cataloging,
which
and
correct
me
if
I'm,
wrong,
I,
don't
believe,
is
being
done
with
the
join
our
house.
J
L
J
And
that's
why
you're
you're
here
they're
they're,
relocating
that's
improved.
So
what
you're
here
for
is
the
criteria
that
you
all
have
there,
but
it's
the
finished
product
so
and
I
think
we
understandably
because
this
is
not
an
issue
that
I
think
we'll
have
kids
had
to
deal
with
before,
at
least
not
in
my
experience
of
something
where
you're
you're
doing
this.
Why.
N
J
Yeah
I
think
I
I
I
understand
the
commission's
concerns.
I
I
think
everybody
in
this
room
understands
the
commission's
concerned
that
you
know
there's
a
preferred
intact.
You
only
prefer
that
the
building
moved
intact
and
then
what's
done
at
the
side
is
done
at
the
site
and
that
kind
of
maintains
a
level
of
consistency.
A
Opinions
are
preferred
is
besides
the
other
two
elements,
so
it's
just
like
any
other.
This
is
my
opinion.
This
is
your
opinion.
So
what?
But?
What
is
going
to
get
the
end
result
that
has
a
structure?
That's
going
to
last
for
many
many
many
more
years,
that's
up
to
code,
that's
going
to
maintain
itself
in
the
hurricane
or
severe
weather
or
whatever
element
gets
thrown
at
it.
A
A
J
It's
it's
analyzing,
this
application.
The
application
is
for
you
and
you've
already
approved
the
relocation
analyzing
this
application
and
then
underneath
the
eight
I
believe
is
a
criteria
of
the
UVA,
and
he
offered
me
recently
so
many
times,
Finance
fact,
conclusions
of
law
it's.
It
is
imperative
that
the
applicant,
the
staff
that
all
the
public
knows
why
the
decisions
are
being
reached,
and
you
have
you
have
staff
and
the
applicant
in
agreement
on
this
case
in
this
particular
Mr,
particular
application.
J
I
think
you've
heard
from
staff.
Why
they're
in
agreement
and
you've
heard
from
the
applicant?
Why
do
they
think
this
is
necessary
again,
I
understand
your
concerns.
I
appreciate
your
concerns
and
what
you're?
What's
your
where
your
hesitation
May
lie?
But
if
there's
any
way,
if
there's
anything,
I
can
answer
or
any
sort
of
clarification,
I
can
provide
I'd
be
more
than
happy
to
do
so.
Are.
C
C
J
J
Determination
that
staff
made
and
that
the
administrator
made
that
relocation
has
been
approved.
Nothing
in
this
application
should
act
as
an
amendment
of
that
or
modification
that
that
in
SAS
being
in
the
relocation
is,
is,
is
the
relocation
it's
been
approved.
The
method
does
not
build
your
transmission.
N
A
J
And
then-
and
we
and
we've
we've
talked
about
this
before
in
the
past
too,
you
look
at
your
secretary's
standards.
There
are
hundreds
of
pages
and
tons
of
additional
material,
and
even
the
Secretary
of
Standards
don't
really
address
relocation
in
any
depth
at
all,
and
our
our
Udo
is
not
in
particular.
Historic
district
standards
are
not
hundreds
of
pages.
J
It's
they're,
much
shorter,
they're,
much
more
concise
and
they're
supposed
to
be
understandable
and
supposed
to
be
able
to
work
through
them
and
I
think
this
is
one
of
those
areas
where
we
may
need
to
talk
about
it
in
the
future.
This
is
a
a
A
continuing
concern
with
HBC
and
that's
within
your
jurisdiction
to
bring
that
to
staff
to
talk
about.
H
H
A
G
A
A
But
we
are
preserving
this
box,
we're
just
preserving
it
in
a
different
Manner
and
I.
Guess
I
see
that
there's
going
to
be
this
building
that
no
one's
you
know
it's
going
to
be
going
still.
If
we
were
hearing
it's
still
going
to
be
a
piece
of
art,
because
it's
still
going
to
have
the
same
exterior
structure
for
that
structured,
but
material
and
look
and
designed
in
Windows
and
roofs
and
everything
else.
C
Since,
if
I
may,
I
mean
I
would
just
say
this
after
being
as
the
last
meeting
I
mean
to
me,
not
if
I
cannot
take
into
the
relocation
of
the
structure,
I
think
my
questions
that
we
have
been
answered
and
I
would,
unless
there's
some
further
discussion
like
to
do
about
that.
Do
you
think
there
needs
to
be
additional
conversation,
but
not
on
the
applicant's
time,
I
guess:
employment.