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From YouTube: Town of Bluffton - Affordable Housing Committee Meeting Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 10:00 AM
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I. CALL TO ORDER
II. ROLL CALL
III. ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA
IV. ADOPTION OF MINUTES
1. January 5, 2023
V. OLD BUSINESS
VI. NEW BUSINESS
1. FY23 Neighborhood Assistance Program Budget
VII. PUBLIC COMMENTS
VIII. DISCUSSION
1. 1095 May River Road Update, Stephen Steese, Town Manager
IX. ADJOURNMENT
B
I
feel
like
we
just
saw
each
other
singing
in
these
same
spots,
but
January
came
and
February
is
here
so
good
morning
to
you
all
I'll
skip
to
our
memo.
The
adopted
budget
for
the
fiscal
year,
23
neighborhood
assistance
program
was
a
hundred
and
ninety
thousand
dollars.
As
of
January
26
2023,
a
total
of
35
homes
have
been.
B
B
Pump
out
the
line
item
has
been
exceeded
by
1,
263
and
I
do
want
to
pause
there.
The
only
reason
why
we
allowed
the
property
cleanup
and
subject
pump
out
to
exceed
original
budget
is
because
it's
considered
a
safety
sanitary,
so
that
is
consisting
of
our
set.
They
pump
outs
for
those
that
have
full
septic
systems
and
we
need
to
keep
going
just
to
keep
it
sanitary,
so
that
is
one
of
our
our
most
popular
calls.
B
This
shortfall
will
be
covered
by
Finance
from
the
abatement
and
demolition.
My
item
once
Council
approves
additional
funding.
After
February
and
March
Time
Council
meetings,
funds
for
both
of
those
live
items
will
be
restored
back
to
its
original
amount.
Any
questions
there
I
know
I
said
a
mouthful
on
that
line.
When.
B
B
D
B
To
get
those
estimates
in
so
we
can
keep
going
once
Town
Council
approves
what
needs
to
be
approved.
The
five
applications
that
have
been
turned
in
but
I
have
not
turned
to
alcohol
I.
Just
kind
of
don't
want
everything
to
kind
of
just
be
rushing
at
one
time,
so
we're
going
to
move
in
slow,
but
precisely
once
those
funds
are
released.
So
that's
lying
down
to
our
Excel
sheet,
so
you
can
see
where
all
those
dollars
and
I'll
give
you
time
to
look
at
that.
B
B
B
A
B
A
C
C
In
the
time
the
space
from
when
I
discovered
them
spoke
to
you
about
them
and
then
put
in
my
application.
Their
lowest
price
unit
went
up
a
hundred
dollars
a
month,
and
so
now,
at
my
present
rate
of
pay,
I
no
longer
qualify,
so
that's
been
a
frustration
and
they
were
one
of
one
of
or
if
not,
the
lowest
I
could
find
in
the
Bluffton
boundaries
within
the
boundaries
of
Bluffton.
C
So
I
just
wondered.
Maybe
if
I
could
offer
a
suggestion,
perhaps
you
could,
as
a
committee
come
up
with
at
least
a
list
of
apartment
communities
or
property
managers
that
subscribe
to
offering
affordable
housing
or
I.
Don't
know,
I,
don't
know
the
terminology.
I,
don't
know
what
communication
levels
you
have
with
those
particular
entities
so
but
I
just
feel
it's
an
important.
C
It's
an
important
topic,
it's
it.
It
exists
and
in
fact,
apparently
someone
watched
the
meeting
from
last
month,
and
she
knows
she
emailed
me
this
morning
and
said
she
watched
me
talking
to
you
about
the
lack
of
affordable
housing,
even
while
being
a
employee
of
the
town
of
Bluffton,
and
she
too
is
in
the
same
situation.
Her
lease
is
up
in
a
few
months
and
she's
already
paying
two
thousand
dollars
a
month
for
a
one
bedroom
and
she
doesn't.
E
C
A
F
C
C
F
F
A
Our
hearts
in
in
effort
in
trying
to
be
against
you
there
are
things.
That's
in
the
pipeline
is
probably
about
what
you
want
to
hear,
but
you
know
Ross,
they're,
all
stuff,
that
we're
doing
that's
going
to
make
it's
going
to
make
others
in
our
region
also
follow
and
and
there's
we
have
so
local.
That's
doing
significant
work
now
with
the
Housing
Trust
Fund.
A
C
A
C
C
C
D
D
D
C
C
B
A
G
So,
thank
you
all
for
allowing
us
to
be
here.
As
you
know,
we
are
it's
one
of
council's
priorities
to
do
affordable
housing.
We
actually
have
several
pieces
of
land
that
the
town
has
Acquired
and
looking
to
do
so,
we
went
out
three
plus
years
ago
to
find
a
partner
with
us
to
do
this
private
partnership
for
affordable
housing.
We
work
through
that
and
finally
got
agreement
in
place.
Council
approved
I
think
everything
was
finalized.
G
Last
fall,
so
our
first
piece
of
property
that
we're
looking
at
is
1095
May,
River
Road
that
the
town
owns
it's
a
little
short
of
two
acres
about
1.8
acres,
and
we
just
to
give
you
a
little
bit
of
background
in
trying
to
put
together
a
public-private
partnership
to
address
affordable
housing.
There
is
a
balance
of
trying
to
maintain
whether
it's
going
to
be
at
what
portion
is
it
going
to
be
private?
G
One
of
the
big
questions
that
came
up
was
long-term
maintenance
of
public
spaces,
the
ponds
the
roads
stuff
like
that,
because
when
we
have
typically
had
subdivisions
that
have
been
done
and
Bluffton,
they
have
HOAs
or
poas
who
are
put
in
place
to
maintain
those
kind
of
facilities,
roads,
ponds
Etc
when
we
start
talking
about
making
things
affordable.
What
we
run
into
is,
when
you
start
looking
at
having
a
POA
or
HOA
for
14
residential
units
is.
G
What
is
that
going
to
look
like?
Is
that
going
to
create
a
fee?
Is
it
going
to
create
a
burden
that
then
take
something
that
could
be
affordable
and
makes
it
unaffordable?
So
are
we
talking
about
adding
a
couple
hundred
dollars
per
month
to
a
HOA
fee
so
that
they
can
maintain
their
roads,
maintain
their
stormwater,
Pond
and
Etc?
Moving
forward?
G
That
then,
takes
a
unit
that
was
80
percent
affordable
and
it
makes
it
non-affordable
because
that
total
cost
of
home
ownership
is
what
we're
really
looking
at,
because
we
want
to
make
sure
that
whenever
somebody
gets
in
there
that
we're
not
putting
them
into
a
burden
that
it's
going
to
put
them
in
a
situation
where
it
was
affordable
and
then
it
becomes
unaffordable.
So
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
looking
at
all
these
things
long
term
so
where
we
get
into
that,
is
having
that
conversation.
G
A
G
Here
to
make
an
answer,
questions
that
may
be
Beyond
me
or
or
to
make
sure
that
y'all
also
understand
where
we're
at
and
what
what
the
steps
looking
forward
are
moving
forward.
So
the
initial
site
plan
you
can
see
with
this
one
done
by
whatever
Jones
keeper
shows
how
to
lay
out
with
14
townhome
units.
The
goal
for
all
of
these
is
for
them
to
be
owner
occupied
and
for
them
to
be
at
least
four
at
60
Ami,
at
least
four
or
eighty
percent
Ami,
and
at
least
four
at
100
Ami.
G
G
So
you
can
see
the
kind
of
the
layout
we
have
here,
that's
been
put
into
place
brings
us
back
to
the
conversation
that
I
started
with,
which
is
now
we
have
to
have
parking.
We
have
to
have
storm
water,
we
have
to
have
entry
roads
and
we
reach
a
point
where
we
are
trying
to
bounce
that
burden
and
trying
to
figure
out
long
term
what
the
public
and
private
part
of
this
development
is
going
to
look
like.
G
So
the
second
sheet
kind
of
shows
a
little
bit
of
a
just
simplified
version
to
show
what
units
would
actually
be
sold
off
versus
what
is
remaining
as
kind
of
open
land.
That's
going
to
require
maintenance,
long
term.
This
includes
a
potential
pocket
park.
It
includes
the
parking,
the
roadways
and
the
storm
water.
So
typically,
the
town
of
Bluffton
does
not
take
ownership
of
any
roads.
Whenever
a
development
is
done,
we
do
have
some
roads
that
we
do
own
we've
taken
some
in
Old
Town.
We
have
what's
the
part
about
Hampton
Parkway.
G
We've
done
some
other
other
stuff
like
that,
but
with
this
being
an
affordable
housing
development
and
being
a
public-private
partnership,
the
question
comes
up
is:
do
we
recommend?
Do
we
take
the
council
as
a
recommendation
that
the
town
take
over
the
roads,
the
sidewalks,
the
storm
water
and
maintain
it
in
perpetuity
to
ensure
that
these
units
stay
affordable?
Part
of
the
conversation
we
had
as
well
goes
with
covenants
that
are
going
to
go
forward.
The
initial
Covenant
showed
like
a
an
estimated
30-year.
G
Affordability
is
having
some
conversations
that
the
town
is
going
to
do
the
maintenance
long
term.
Do
we
extend
those
covenants
and
make
them
40
years
so
that
we
make
sure
the
town
is
going
to
invest
funds
and
to
maintain
roads
and
storm
water
that
we're
going
to
keep
these
units
affordable
for
a
longer
period
of
time.
G
Moving
forward
to
reduce
the
requirement
to
have
an
HOA
which
will
then
keep
these
units
more
affordable
in
the
long
term,
and
also
just
talking
about
14
units
individually
having
to
do
that?
What
that
burden
may
be
for
individuals
within
this
project,
so
that's
kind
of
a
primer
of
where
we're
at,
and
why
we're
here
wanting
to
have
that
conversation?
So
we
can
get
some
input
from
the
affordable
housing
committee
and
get
some
guidance
moving
forward.
G
So
we
want
to
have
this
conversation
because
we're
ready
to
move
forward
from
the
point
of
this
to
actually
getting
the
architectural
design
and
the
vertical
design
done
so
that
we
can
then
move
from
what
we
call
phase
one
which
is
also
design
and
moving
to
phase
two,
which
is
Contracting
with
Matt
and
his
team,
to
do
all
the
horizontal
work
to
build
the
roads
to
put
the
infrastructure
in
so
that
we
can
then
go
vertical.
So
this
is
really
our
biggest
question
from
moving
forward
from
phase
one
into
phase
two.
G
Our
biggest
question
is
making
the
recommendation
that
the
town
take
and
maintain
the
public
spaces
and
Facilities
to
help
ensure
that
this
is
Affordable
long
term.
And
if
we
make
that
recommendation.
Is
there
any
considerations
that
we
want
to
take
as
in
extending
the
affordability
covenants
for
say
an
additional
10
years
or
or
whatever,
to
make
sure
that
we're
protecting
the
investment
that
the
town
is
making.
C
F
D
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D
D
G
D
G
G
D
I
pretend
to
go
for
affordability
and
profitability
and
I
know
you've
got
to
work
together,
but
then
we'll
have
more
people
like
this
beautiful
young
lady
in
the
back.
That's
coming
here
on
my
children.
That's
coming
here!
That's
here
it
can't
live
here.
That's
what
I
see
now
is
my
children
can't
live
here
because
of
profitability
and
I'm
working
towards
affordability.
G
That
would
be
through
the
Builder
whenever
we
get
to
that
point,
that's
part
of
the
agreement
is
they
handle
all
the
qualifications.
I
think
we
use
telecon
to
do
all
the
qualifications
we
use
for
the
negative
systems,
but
they
will
do
all
the
qualifying
and
work
through
that
through
the
transfer
to
sell
the
property.
F
I
just
wanted
to
offer
this
I
lived
in
Reston
Virginia
right
by
Dulles
airport
and
I.
When
I
moved
there
in
1994
it
was
a
nice
little
town,
you
know,
live
work
and
play
and
all
that
and
so
I
I
sold.
My
I
moved
there
twice,
but
I
sold
my
house
in
2019..
Well,
when
I
moved
there,
there
was
a
a
beautiful
little
red,
brick
community,
of
affordable
housing
and
the
people.
You
know
we
saw
the
children
grow
up.
They.
F
They
grew
up
in
that
community
and
I
always
wondered
well
what's
the
income
level,
so
I
really
never
knew
that,
but
you
saw
the
children
grow
up
the
people
get
old,
Etc
and
then
I
thought
that
is
so
great
because
then
around
it,
the
houses
that
were
200
000
went
to
a
million
and
a
half
you
know,
and
then
we
kept
building
and
pretty
soon
they
called
it.
The
internet
capital
of
world.
So.
F
More
money
and
more
people
with
money
moving
in
so
I
still
am
on
the
the
distribution
you
know
what's
going
on
in
the
town,
and
here
it
is
30
years
later,
well,
30
that
I
knew
about
they're
deciding
that
they're
going
to
take
away
the
affordable
housing
that
Community,
because
it's
sitting
there
and
all
around
it
our
million
dollar
town
homes.
So
the
people
are
really
upset
and
and
of
course,
I'm
upset
because
it's
like
we.
F
F
Grandchildren,
the
great
grandchildren
people
who
will
have
affordable
housing
and
I
don't
know
a
lot
of
the
people
that
were
living
in
the
in
the
community.
Their
children
grew
up.
A
lot
of
their
children
went
to
college
and
you
know
so
they
had
the
good
life,
but
then
there
are
still
people
there
who
were
there
at
the
very
beginning.
So
that
concerns
me
30
years
sounds
like
a
long
time,
but
it's
quick.
It's
quick!
It's
quick
when
you,
when
you
talk
about
that
I
would
not
want
to
see
that
happened.
G
G
Very
important,
the
other
thing
and
is
just
to
make
sure
as
we
go
to
counsel
and
start
having
additional
conversations
about
looking
at
the
open
space
and
the
maintenance,
and
that
long
term
is
just
in
any
concerns
or
questions
or
anything
in
the
town
being
a
partner
and
doing
that
compared
to
any
place
else
that
we
normally
do
inside
the
town.
Just
to
make
sure
that
we're
balancing
that,
because
again
we're
trying
to
balance
whether
it
is
a
public
development
versus
a
private
development
and
public
maintenance
versus
you
know.
G
But
we
do
have
homes
that
are
in
Old
Town,
where
we
maintain
the
roads
and
the
public
parking
and
all
of
that
around
them.
So
there's
some
places
that
we
do
it,
and
if
this
is
something
that
is
a
priority
for
Council,
was
it
something
that
we
continue
to
do
in
other
places
to
make
sure
that
we
have
this?
We
can.
We
can
make
these
affordability
meet
the
affordability
requirements
if.
B
A
G
E
Talked
to
a
a
company
that
specializes
in
POA
management,
that's
all
they
do,
and
the
individual
that
I
was
talking
with,
has
more
three
and
four
letter
acronyms
it's
alphabet
soup
following
her
name.
She
she
is
an
expert
in
this
field,
so
she
was
looking
at
it
over
a
30-year
lifespan
and
what
would
need
to
be
needed
in
terms
of
reserve
requirements,
because,
in
her
experience
in
managing
poas
all
over
the
country,
she's
seen
instances
where
a
need
arrives
to
maintain
an
aspect
of
the
community.
E
A
lot
of
these
discussions
that
I
was
having
with
her
it's
kind
of
the
chicken
and
egg
scenario,
because
I'm
asking
her
to
give
me
pricing
on
something
that
we
don't
know
what
it
is
and
but
the
sum
of
the
pricing
that
she's
talking
will
help
us
decide
what
is
the
most
affordable
long
term.
Maybe
not
the
least
expensive
thing
they've
won,
but
it
could
be
the
least
expensive
thing.
Over
year,
30.
E
I
think
she
was
proposing
a
maintenance
budget
for
the
community
to
maintain
everything
in
and
around
the
facilities
of
around
seven
thousand
dollars
a
year
for
landscape
maintenance,
Etc
Road
and
you
know,
blowing
the
roads
that
type
of
thing.
So
when
we
add
it
all
together,
it
does
actually
come
up
to
a
fairly
significant
portion
of
an
individual
owner's
budget.
If
that
owner
is
one
of
the
14
required
to
maintain
this
entire
parcel,
we're
fortunate
to
have
the
parcel
to
work
on
the
reality,
I
think
being
speaking
to
this
as
well.
E
It's
not
the
ideal
shaped
piece
of
land
for
the
most
efficient
use.
We've
got
a
road
that
comes
in
that
we
can
only
put
property
on
one
side.
Ideally,
when
you're
building
a
road
you
have
houses
on
both
sides
that
produces
the
cost
of
your
own
body,
so
by
our
road
layout,
we've
looked
at
it
and
how
we
can
actually
keep
our
infrastructure
costs
to
a
minimum
while
still
maximizing
the
number
of
dwellings
that
we
have
on
the
property
allows
for
12
units
with
two
bonus
density
units.
E
So
our
goal
from
the
beginning
was
to
put
14
on
because
that
reduces
the
cost
per
unit
as
far
as
the
infrastructure,
but
still
only
at
14,
with
the
lineal
footage
of
Road
the
lineal
footage
of
sidewalk,
it
does
become
a
significant
burden
for
individual
homeowner
if
they
have
to
maintain
that.
So
that's
the
back
end
conversations
that
I
had
regarding
and
and
she
was
blackstep
with
what
what
our
thoughts
were.
As
far
as
what
the
longer.
D
C
G
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G
Pay
the
contract
when
it
goes
up
and
and
who's
going
to
end
up
enforcing
that
requirement.
The
town
will
be
the
one
that
has
to
step
in
and
enforce
them
to
do
that,
and
if
it's
like,
he
talked
about
all
of
a
sudden,
it's
an
increase
or
it
becomes
a
lien.
And
so
that's,
where
we're
kind
of
again
it's
that
balancing
of
where
the
public
and
private
are
balancing
each
other
out
and
with
it
trying
to
find
somewhere
in
the
middle.
It
gets.
G
There
is
looking
at
the
Town
being
in
the
ones
who
own
and
maintain
and
so
forth,
but
I
wanted
to
make
sure
we
had
that
conversation
and
that
we
talked
everything
through
and
that
the
affordable
housing
committee
understood
agreed
or
had
these
these
conversations,
because
we
want
to
make
sure
there
wasn't
something
we
forgot
when
we
started
talking
with
bankers
and
Realtors
and
other
people
we
there
may
be
something
that
can
help
us
Bridge.
Some
of
this,
that
we
weren't
thinking
of
it,
because.
A
A
C
E
A
So
it's
a
lot
of
discussion.
There's
a
lot
of
give
and
taken
is
a
and
it's
a
lot
of
ranges
on
me,
but
it's
important
for
us
to
understand
just
as
much
of
what
they
understand
and
that's
why
I
wanted
student
to
come
ahead
today,
so
you
guys
can
dissect
it
and
ask
all
the
questions.
I
mean:
don't
leave
nothing
unturned
because
we
may
have
missed
something
that
you
actually
experts
make
can
help.
G
F
A
G
C
B
B
G
B
F
G
So
next
step
is
we
finalize
the
site
plan
that
we
have
and
we
would
need
to
come
to
council,
probably
in
March
at
the
council
meeting
and
have
those
conversations
and
make
sure
I
have
them
in
between
as
well.
But
to
make
sure
the
council
is
supportive
of
the
transfer
and
taking
over
that,
so
that
whenever
we
get
to
the
point
where
it's
time
to
accept
those
at
the
end
of
the
project
that
we
know
that
we
have
that
support
moving
forward.
G
A
G
E
E
Taking
Rocky's
land
and
what
our
constraints
are
as
far
as
what
our
setbacks,
our
road
Frontage
access
for
utilities,
where
we
need
to
code
roads,
all
that
that
leaves
us
with
what's
left
over
to
build
a
house,
so
there's
not
much
space.
So
we
are
fine-tuning.
They've
done
a
fantastic
job
of
squeezing
things
around
so
that
we
have
buildable
footprints
that
can
be
designed
upon.
But
because
it's
a
compact
parcel,
we
can't
take
an
off-the-shelf
design
and
just
drop
it
on,
because
it
would
be
a
very
inefficient
use
of
art
limit.
E
So
we
have
our
conceptual
land
plan,
which
does
take
into
account
how
we
would
run
our
utilities,
our
storm
water.
All
of
that
once
that
is
essentially
approved,
and
we
know
that
our
building
footprint
is
what
we're
going
to
be
building
within
then
Pearson
Amanda
can
begin
the
task
of
the
architectural
development.
E
It
doesn't
make
sense
to
do
that
now
in
the
event
that
Footprints
change
once
I
had
a
footprint
decided
on
the
horizontal
I
Can
Begin,
costing
that
but
as
I'm
talking
to
site,
where
contractors
to
put
in
Road
sewers
electricity
drainage
that
types
of
things
it's
all
loose
because
there's
nothing
that
they
can
truly
get
down
to
the
details
on.
So
as
we
move
forward,
we
get
our
site
plan
at
that
point.
E
A
E
The
primary
question
that
that
we
discussed
here
as
far
as
the
ownership
of
the
road
and
stuff
that
has
an
impact
on
all
of
this,
assuming
the
town
is
willing
to
take
over
ownership
of
the
road.
So
we
know
that
we
don't
have
a
substantial
burden
that
the
homeowners
are
going
to
have
to
bear
to
maintain
this
in
the
future.
E
Assuming
the
plan
that
we
have
isn't
is
acceptable,
we
have
a
dragon
engineer
that
is
basically
on
standby.
Ready
to
go.
I
would
think
that
from
the
time,
what
is
your
time
frame
to
complete
what
you
have
here,
probably
within
the
next
30
days,
having
a
refined
conceptual
plan?
So,
if
he's
30
days,
our
drainage
engineer
was
probably
60
days
start
to
finish
so
90
days.
We
would
have
something
that
we
would
have
some
confidence
in
in
terms
of
site
work,
plan,
infrastructure,
playing
a
horizontal
plane
yeah.
E
B
G
To
take
it
over
that,
that
will
be
at
the
very
end,
really
it's
just
more
of
a
conversation
with
Council
to
make
sure
that
we're
on
the
same
page
and
they
understand
and
we're
going
to
feel
comfortable
to
take
to
do
that.
It's
really
more
of
a
guided
situation
so,
but
he
said
I
think
between
myself,
councilman
Hamilton,
councilman
wood.
We
can
have
those
conversations
and
get
it
to
a
point
that.
A
G
A
A
A
Sharing
my
banker
has
to
go
and
take
care
of
my
money.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
coming
the
that's
an
amazing
part
of
wanted
to
make
Bluffton
special
and
different
and
they're,
using
the
a
lot
of
the
time
and
money
in
Italian
to
to
to
help
a
family
and
and
it's
an
affordable.
It
comes
under
the
affordable
component
and
our
whole
town
finds
it
where
we
can
partner
with
them
to
and
some
of
our
neighborhood
assistant
funds
to
to
find
with
them
as
well.