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A
A
All
right,
what
we're
gonna
do
is
run
through
our
agenda.
I
want
you
to
understand
that
there's
only
four
people
here,
normally
we
sit
with
five.
You
need
four
votes
to
pass
to
get
your
variance
or
whatever,
and
so
today
it's
a
matter
of
unanimity.
If
anybody
dissents
you
lose
I'll,
give
anybody
a
chance
if
they
want
to
not
to
go
forward
today
to
get
on
the
next
calendar
if
they
want
to
no
penalty
involved
except
the
delay.
A
If
you
want
to
go
forward
with
four
people,
just
know
that
you
gotta
win
them
all.
Okay,
so
your
choice,
anybody
want
to
say
no,
I
don't
want
to
do
it
today,
okay,
good
enough,
let's
rock
and
roll!
A
Let's
look
at
the
minutes
from
the
last
meeting.
Gentlemen,
if
you
would
especially
those
of
you
who
were
here,
I
apologize
for
not
being
here
at
the
time.
Are
there
any
concerns
or
comments
about
the
minutes?
If
not,
then
I
would
entertain
a
motion
to
approve
in
a
second.
D
A
Any
opposed
good
deal.
What
we
do
is
we
swear
in
everybody
at
one
time,
so
we
get
it
all
over
with,
and
anybody
who
wants
to
say
anything
at
all
for
against
just
comment
or
stand
up
and
say
anything
in
the
meeting
needs
to
stand
up
now,
raise
your
right
hand
and
we'll
do
all
of
the
witness
swearing
at
one
time.
Okay,
so
if
you'll
stand
up,
raise
your
right
hand,
if
you
want
to
make
any
comment
at
all
today,.
A
A
Could
we
have
the
we're
gonna,
get
the
staff
report
first
and
then
we'll
get
you
your
comments,
okay,
staff
report?
If
you
would.
F
File
pz
2021-139
is
a
request
for
a
variance
to
the
minimum
front
and
rear
yard
setback
requirements
for
a
main
structure.
This
is
going
to
be
reduced
from
25
feet
to
three
and
a
half
feet
and
the
minimum
pavement
set,
and
also
a
variance
to
the
minimum
pavement
setback,
which
will
be
reduced
from
two
feet
to
zero
feet.
This
property
is
located
at
1475
wall
street.
F
F
Moving
on
to
the
site
plan
wall
street
is
on
this
side,
so
the
three
and
a
half
foot
setback
would
be
on
the
front
right
here
called
out,
and
then
the
three
and
a
half
foot
set
back
would
be
in
the
rear
called
out
right
here.
This
is
the
driveway.
On
this
side.
You
can
tell
that
driveway
is
going
or
abutting
the
property
line,
and
that's
where
that
zero
foot
pavement
reduction
is
coming
in.
F
This
is
from
avenue
b
looking
towards
wall
street.
You
can
see
these
front
facades
right
here,
they're
all
pretty
close
to
the
road
for
the
most
part,
and
I
believe
this
is
1475
right
here,
possibly
right
there,
I'm
sorry
it's
this.
F
F
Okay
and
the
applicant
is
here:
we
received
zero
letters
in
favor,
zero
in
opposition.
A
Ex
explain
to
me
just
a
moment
this
driveway
going
out
onto
wall
street,
apparently
that's
not
on
avenue
b.
F
E
F
Yes,
so
on
this
side
right
here
there
it's
grassed
over,
they
have
no
driveway,
essentially
right
now,
but
they
do
have
a
culvert.
I
thought
that
I
had
put
it
into
the
slideshow,
but
I
may
not
have.
I
can
pull
it
up
on
google
imp
street
view,
if
you
guys
would
like
no.
A
A
F
A
F
All
of
the
glo
homes
have
to
have
a
ramp
and
if
the
ramp
can't
meet
can't
fit
on
the
property
which
this
is
a
50
by
50
lot,
which
is
less
than
what
our
subdivision
ordinance
calls
for,
it
calls
for
50
by
100.
This
is
an
older
lot,
so
it's
legal
non-conforming.
A
Okay,
she's
been
clarified,
yeah.
A
Okay,
you
know,
and-
and
it
looks
like
the
pavement-
I'm
seeing
this
okay
there's
the
property
line,
the
the
line
with
the
x's
and
it's
the
property
line.
Is
that
what
you're
reading
tom
that's
the
thing.
G
A
G
Dark
line
he's
got
it
labeled
our
rw
for
right
away
right
over
here.
So
this
is
well.
G
A
That's
that's
what
it
looks
like
and-
and
I
question
whether
that's,
whether
that's
something
that
could
be
approved,
even
if
we
approve
the
variance.
F
G
A
A
A
F
E
F
Yes,
so
the
covered
porch,
that
would
be
where
it
goes
into
the
ground
that
should
all
be
in
one
like
there
shouldn't
be
the
overhang.
The
only
thing
that
we
allow
to
go
into
the
setback
would
be
like
the
eaves
of
the
roof
as
far
as
like
wall
up
sticking
out.
That
would
not.
That
would
also
contribute
to
the
front
setback.
A
A
H
My
name
is
alexandra
palace
and
I
am
a
project
coordinator
for
lemoyne
disaster
recovery.
I
basically
just
brought
a
boundary
survey
of
the
existing
property.
It
is
very
close
to
what's
already
there.
We
have
to
stay
within
the
same
footprint
and
as
far
as
the
parking
pad,
I
do
not
believe
it
will
be
going
over
the
property
line.
We
try
to
get
everything
in.
A
A
A
A
C
H
H
C
H
F
G
A
C
A
A
D
A
C
A
All
we
can
do
is
yeah,
it's
got
some
kind
of
a
pad
out.
There
now
didn't.
A
I
A
A
A
All
right
any
more
questions
for
the
witness
all
right.
Thank
you,
ma'am
does
anybody
else
want
to
speak
for
or
against
or
otherwise
comment
on
file,
pz
2021-139
request
for
variants
from
at
a
location
of
1475
wall
street.
Anybody
else
want
to
talk
about
this
case.
A
G
D
F
D
A
A
A
A
F
Okay
file,
pz
2021-150,
is
a
request
for
a
variance
to
the
minimum
front
yard
setback
for
a
main
structure.
This
is
to
be
reduced
from
25
feet
to
21.62
feet
for
the
property
located
at
3890
holland
drive.
This
house
was
constructed
without
the
benefit
of
an
approved
site
plan
that
displayed
the
actual
dimensions
of
the
proposed
structure.
Mr
khalil
originally
submitted
drawings
for
an
addition
to
the
home
and
was
issued
a
permit
for
it.
F
Our
inspectors
had
posted
had
posted
a
stop
work
order
when
they
realized
that
the
contractors
were
demolishing
the
old
house
and
constructing
the
new
house.
Mr
khalil
had
taken
steps
in
the
right
direction
by
producing
an
elevation
certificate,
because
this
new
construction
was
located
in
the
ae
flood
zone.
F
He
also
had
to
produce
building
plans
to
reflect
the
new
construction,
so
he
is
trying
to
rectify
the
situation,
which
is
why
this
is
brought
to
you.
F
F
F
Don't
know
if
that's
any
better,
but
I
do
have
copies
as
well.
So
right
now
at
the
base
of
the
structure
that
is
23.43
feet
from
the
property
line.
However,
going
up
the
front
facade
if
there
is
a
jut
out
of
a
bonus,
room
or
game
room,
that's
going
to
be
up
there.
That
jut
out
is
21.62
feet
away
from
the
front
property
line.
F
F
F
I
do
have
a
printout
of
the
site
plan
that
was
submitted
prior
to
the
corrected
site
plan.
That's
before
you
showing
the
actual
dimensions.
Don't
know
if
you
guys
wanted
to
see
that,
but
I
do
have
that
for
the
letters
that
were
received
in
favor.
F
F
And
then
zero
in
opposition-
and
we
do
have
the
applicant
in
the
audience-
and
it
is
the
it's
mr
khalil.
D
F
A
F
F
Shouldn't
be
as
it
exists,
if
it's
been
there,
there's
been
no
demolition
to
it.
It
can
be
there,
but.
A
A
Well,
we
know
about
that.
We
know
about
the
structure,
we
know
about
this
overhang
from
the
upper
level.
You
know
sheathed
and
oriented
strand
board,
but
do
you
know
where
that
fence
is
and
whether
it
is
more
than.
A
A
But
the
front
if
it
follows
the
line
of
the
of
the
if
it
follows
this
line
and
it
continues
to
get
closer
and
closer
and
closer,
because
it's
an
extension
of
that
line.
F
Right
so
technically
per
our
ordinance.
This
smallest
street
frontage
is
going
to
be
the
front,
so
it
looks
like.
F
It
looks
like
holland
is,
however,
with
the
very
like
that
fence
has
been
there,
though,
like
that's,
not
that
it's
still,
you
can
have
a
fence
on
your
property
it
you
can
bring
it
into
the
front
as
well,
but
it
just
has
to
be
on
your
property.
It
can't
be
on
a
neighbor's
property.
It
can't
be
on
anything
like
that,
but
it
has
to
be
on
your
property
when
we
go
into
the
historic
district.
That's
whenever
fences
vary
in
size
and
stuff
like
that
and
location.
D
E
F
That'd
be
that'd,
be
10,
I'm
sorry,
10
from
this
side.
C
F
G
F
A
F
A
A
A
A
Well,
and-
and
you
know
these
are
all
these
are
all
concerns
our
our
one
concern
and
the
only
thing
we
can
make
a
decision
on
is
right
now
variance
to
the
minimum
front
yard
setback
under
the
presumption
that.
A
F
As
far
as
just
so
that
I
have
it
right
so
on
the
screen
here
going
from
this
way,
this
is
the
front
setback,
because
it's
narrowest
street
frontage
from
this
side.
This
is
an
interior
lot
line,
so
this
is
five
feet
this
right
over
here.
That
should
be
a
side
right
there,
so
that
should
be
ten.
This
over
here
is
also
a
side,
so
it
should
be
10..
This
over
here
should
be
10.,
and
I
I
apologize
for
that
10
or
5..
G
F
F
Lot
size
so
lot
size
in
our
ordinance
says
the
front
yard
is
going
to
be
the
smallest
or
the
narrowest
street
frontage.
So
this
is
why
this
lot
line
is
the
narrowest
street
frontage.
So
this
is
the
front
yard.
That's
why
it's
got
to
sit
back
25.
tom
you're
right.
I
apologize
rear
yard,
25,
yeah,
side,
side,
side.
G
A
A
C
A
I
know
yeah
I
just
it's
just
amazing
to
me
that
that's
that
that's
etched
in
stone
all
right.
Meanwhile,
back
at
the
ranch,
the
only
real
question
we've
got
is
to
take
the
request
from
the
owner
and
grant
or
deny
any
other
questions
for
this
witness
all
right.
Thank
you,
ma'am.
Who
else
wants
to
speak
to
pz2021-150.
A
I
Problem,
my
name
is
akram
khalil.
It's
a
pleasure
to
meet
y'all
but
yeah.
So
basically
the
house
had
flooded
because
of
the
storm
and
of
course
the
owners
are
still
displaced
and
came
in
to
try
to
you
know,
fix
it
and
then
it's
so
extensive
that
the
owner
decided
well.
You
know
we're
already
in
this
construction.
Can
we
you
know
at
least
you
know,
expand
a
little
bit
on
it.
I
was
like
sure
I
mean
everything
is
requiring
a
plan
and,
of
course,
more
money.
C
I
Insurance
that
they're
having
to
face
so
you
know
this
was
just
another
thing
that
popped
up
and
we
submitted
the
plans
everything
got
approved
later
when
we
go
to
to
to
do
construction
and
actually
like
connect
the
old
structure,
to
what
we're
doing.
We've
discovered
that
there's
a
lot
more
damage,
there's
termite
damage,
there's
rotting,
it
was
complete
integrity
of
the
structure
and
the
framing
was
compromised
technically
and
it
warranted
that
we
demo
the
whole
thing,
but
right
when
we
were
working
through
plans
for
that
and
going
to
submit
it
to
the
city.
I
I
The
engineer
is
working
on
how
we're
going
to
be
able
to
reinforce
what
we
got,
so
that
should
be
coming
to
the
city
as
soon
as
we
know
where
we
stand
with
you
guys,
but
it's
basically
the
distance
we're
talking
about
is
very,
I
mean
it's
a
very
small
distance
and
it's
not
like
crossing
into
somebody
else's
property
or
nothing
like
that.
It's
just
you
know,
technicality
like
you
say,
but
it's
just
unfortunate
because
you
know
we
she
didn't
want
to
rebuild
the
whole
house.
I
You
know
she
just
wanted
a
little
expansion
and
because
of
you
know,
unforeseen
things
behind
walls
and
things
of
that
nature.
We
discover
these
problems
and
it's
just
it's
just
been
one
thing
after
another
and
though
the
extra
1.6
foot
was
a
unforeseen
deal
on
on
the
subcontractor.
That
was
doing
the
concrete
work.
G
G
I
No
because
I
mean
it
was
like
I
mean
it
was
within
the
property
line,
it
was,
it
looked
good.
I
mean
we
just
came
off
a
little
bit
more
than
what
we
thought
and
and
that's
why,
when
we
discovered
that
we're
having
to
redo
the
whole
house,
I
mean
that's
really:
what
warranted
we
get
a
site
plan
and
all
that
you
know,
because
initially
it
didn't
require
that
kind.
You
know
of
of
elevation
certificates
and
things
of
that
nature,
because
it
was
technically
just
a
remodel.
You
know
it
wasn't
reconstructing
the
whole.
I
F
A
I
Oh
yeah,
absolutely
well,
it's
all
going
through
city
inspections
as
well.
Before
we
go
any,
you
know
every
phase,
because
it's
considered
new
construction
too.
You
know
that
you
know
before
the
concrete
came
in,
we
had
the
form
boards
up.
We
had
the
rebar
in
the
right
size,
rebar,
all
that
was
verified
and
engineered,
and
the
engineer
has
to
come
out
because
they
gotta
windstorm
it.
But,
like
I
say
it's
it's
oversight
on
all
three
four
parties.
I
C
I
So
it's
just,
I
don't
know
how
we
all
missed
it,
but
it
was
it's
such
a
small.
You
know
difference
and,
like
I
said
it's
in
it's
inside
the
property,
it's
not
like
it's
in
somebody
else's
property
and
it
is
going
to
enhance
the
house.
I
mean
at
this
point.
You
know
I
mean
if
you
guys
say
no,
this
isn't
going
to
go.
I
mean
we
got
to
literally
tear
the
whole
thing
down.
I
I
mean
I
don't
know
you
know
what
what
other
options
we
have,
and
it's
already
been
sitting
there
for
quite
some
time
now,
as
we
get
drawings
back
and
forth
and
finally
to
meet
with
you
guys
and
meanwhile
you
know
it's
being
exposed
to
the
elements
and
we're
really
trying
to
to
move
forward
and
they're
still
displaced.
I
You
know
from
from
from
2019
when
hurricane
imelda
hit
with
the
flooding
a
lot
of
those
neighbors
got
flooded
in
that
area,
and
so
we're
trying
to
we're
trying
to
do
it
right
and
and
get
her
back
in
the
house
since
she's
already
so
deep
into
it
expense
wise.
You
know,
and
it's
really
put
a
burden
on
the
family
too,.
A
Well,
but
it
flooded
last
time,
did
you
raise
the
house?
Did
you
put
anything
on
top
of
the
slab?
Is
there
anything
that
changes
the
elevation
of
the
house
other
than.
C
I
F
I
do
have
the
elevation
certificate
printed
out
and
also
the
original
submittal
site
plan.
If
you
guys
yeah
one.
A
G
G
G
F
That
was
for
the
new
construction
that
he
had
submitted
once
this
all
stopped
like
once
the
stop
work
orders
were
posted
because
it
was
no
longer
an
addition
or
remodel,
and
then
our
inspector
saw
that
it
was
an
actual
two-story
home
being
constructed.
They
needed
to
go
through
the
new
construction
process,
so.
G
I
I
G
Did
they
do
your
floor
plans
with?
Did
they
do
your
foundation
yeah
he's
working
on
the
foundation
for
the
reinforcement
as
we
speak,
and
did
he
do
the
architectural
plan
for
them
yeah
revolve?
Yes,
sir.
I
G
F
That
was
the
new
construction
permit
once
so.
It
was
adena
aj
that
had
caught
it
so
once
she
caught
that,
then
he
had
to
produce
the
real
sight
plan.
We
saw
that
that
was
encroaching
into
the
front
setback
and
then
that's
whenever
we
had
to
bring
it
to
you
guys
for
a.
I
Honestly,
I
can't
remember
it
went
back
and
forth
so
many
times
and
I
didn't
even
realize
that
that
was
actually
until
she
brought
it
to
my
attention.
I
didn't
even
realize
that
was
part
of
you
know
the
setback
rule.
You
know
I
thought
we
were
just
concerned
with
the
foundation.
A
A
I
The
way
it
faces
ish,
you
know,
I
know
that
we
have
to
go
based
on
lengths
of
of
what
side
is
what,
but,
ultimately
we
don't
have
that
problem
here
and
it
actually
will
enhance
the
look
of
such
a
tall
structure
at
that
point
because
it
is
two-story
and
it
gives
the
kick
front
more
character,
and
I
can
show
you
an
image
of
what
the
finished
product
would
look
like
if
you'd
like
I
got
it
on
my
phone,
I
mean
it's
gonna,
be
a
really
nice
house
in
that
neighborhood.
I
Yes,
sir,
yes,
sir
yeah,
that
sidewalk
is
still
there
and
in
fact
I
told
the
owner,
because
I
mean
because
that
sidewalk
is
beat
up
as
well
as
the
driveway.
It's
just
not
in
the
budget
at
the
moment,
but
I
did
tell
her
that
you
know.
Should
she
decide
to
do
that
later
on
that.
C
I
Having
to
come
in
and
try
to
help
her
out
as
best
as
I
can
you
know,
so
I
told
her
that
you
know
we
could
dress
that
up
and
do
the
proper
landscaping
like
it
was
with
the
palm
trees
and
whatnot,
but
she
had
a
tree
actually
fall.
I
believe
I
mean
it
was
a
mask
tree
and
it
fell
into
the
yard
and
it
kind
of
clipped
the
house
on
the
way
down
too.
I
So
it's
just
it's
been
a.
I
G
G
G
A
That
and
and
let's
get
a
second
and
then
we'll
take
commentary,
okay
motion
is
on
the
floor
and
seconded.
Is
there
any
more
commentary
from
the
people?
Remember,
mr.
G
Hill,
I
hope
we
don't
ever
see
you
in
here
again
with
something
like
that.
I
hope
we
never
see
you
in
this
room
again
with
something
like
this.
I
understand
that
we
do
have
setbacks
and
it
looks
like
somebody
was
trying
to
make
it
right
or
whether
it
was
your
contract
or
whoever
we
shouldn't
have
to
be
sitting
here.
Making
these
folks
go
go
through
this.
A
What
we
get
is
somebody
who
gives
up
something
that's
supposed
to
be
done
right
and
then
fouls
it
up
one
way
or
another
and
then
comes
in
here
and
asks
for
forgiveness,
and
you
know
you
got
a
homeowner
who's
on
the
backside
of
it,
who's
going
to
be
hurt
and
you
know
we're
between
a
rock
and
a
hard
place
there.
You
know
this
is
not
that
bad,
a
situation.
You
are
far
enough
back
that
you
know
you
haven't
really
done
the
kind
of
horrible
stuff
that
we've
seen.
Otherwise.