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B
Chairman
la
beach
here,
commissioner
avery.
Thank
you,
commissioner
bell,
commissioner
berube
absent
commissioner
crawford
president
commissioner,
goodness
yeah
commissioner
javid
is
absent.
Commissioner
macon
here,
commissioner
provo
commissioner
segee
and
commissioner
templeton
is
absent.
Thank
you.
A
All
right,
everyone
was
sent
the
minutes
from
our
may
9th
2022
meeting.
I'd
asked
at
this
time
for
any
corrections
or
a
motion
for
approval
of
the
minutes.
A
All
right,
we
have
a
motion,
a
second
any
discussion,
if
not
all
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
aye,
all
opposed
same
sign
all
right.
That
minutes
are
approved
all
right,
we'll
move
into
our
regular
meeting
and
we'll
ask
staff
to
give
us
a
report
on
file
pz
2022-165,
a
request
for
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
to
remodel
a
portico
and
paint
a
house.
A
All
right,
let's
start
over
file,
pz
2022-172.
A
D
The
hog
wire
fence
has
been
constructed
to
be
50
inches
in
height
with
8,
by
8
posts,
2
by
4,
trim,
cattle
fencing
and
is
situated
along
the
east
property
line
visible
from
10th
street.
Please
see
the
exhibits
located
in
your
packets,
mr
alto
watson,
property
owner
wish
to
disclose
extra
photos
of
pop
properties
with
the
with
existing
fence
types.
D
Those
photos
are
also
in
your
packets
on
the
screen.
This
is
the
property
site,
and
then
this
is
a
view
from
10th
street
showing
the
hogwire
fence
the
property
owner
is
here
in
the
audience.
A
All
right
all
right,
if
you
would
please
sir,
come
forward
just
state
your
name
and
your
address
for
our
records
and
maybe
explain
to
us
how
we
got
to
this
point.
A
E
Alto
watson,
I
work
the
law
office
of
rio,
morgan
and
quinn
here
in
town
we
have
been
living
in
this
house
for
a
couple
of
years.
It
had
been
previously
occupied
by
the
it
was
the
sutherland
mansion,
the
sutherland's
lumber
company
and
it's
two
houses
built
in
one.
One
side
was
built
in
1936.
The
other
side
was
built
in
1990
the
right
hand.
E
When
we
moved
in,
we
had
to
have
them
forcibly
removed,
they
were
cooking,
I
think
they
were
cooking
methamphetamine
in
the
house,
and
electricity
had
no
water,
but
they
kept
the
gas
on
and
throughout
the
house
there
was
catalyst
and
things
like
this,
so
we
had
to
hire
a
roll-off
and
a
cleaning
crew
and
everything
else.
My
wife
and
I
have
spent
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
on
this
house.
So
far,
the
fence
you
see
right.
There
costs
fifty
five
dollars
a
foot
to
build.
E
It's
built
by
eight
by
eights:
that's
actually
cattle
panels,
not
hog
wire,
but
that's
a
minor
difference.
The
fence
that
had
been
there
was
dilapidated.
E
Half
of
it
was
a,
I
think,
about
a
eight
foot,
cyclone
fence
up
into
where
you
see
the
gate
and
then
from
that
was
a
dilapidated
cedar,
picket
fence
all
right,
this
exact
fence,
except
it's
not
as
nice.
Now
approach
is
present
at
the
mcfadden
ward
carriage
house.
E
It's
exactly
the
same
with
these
afternoon
doesn't
look
as
nice.
It's
got
four
by
fours,
it's
got
chicken
wire,
and
so
I
didn't
think
that
this
would
be
a
issue.
I
thought
we
had
a
permit
for
it.
We
didn't,
but
it
is
a
better
fence
than
the
one
in
front
of
the
mcfadden
ward
house,
which
is
currently
in
old
town.
E
We
intend
to
only
have
one
picture
of
this
and,
of
course
I
forgot
the
best
example.
We
are,
we
will
be
purchasing.
We
have
these.
These
are
in
our
package.
E
They
have
a
cyclone
fence,
but
they
have
a
jasmine
growing
in
and
that's
the
idea
that
we
have
for
this
fence,
the
fence
will
not
be
in
a
couple
of
years.
The
fence
itself
will
not
be
visible,
it'll
be
a
jasmine
hedge
fence,
as
they
have
at
the
at
the
center.
I
apologize
for
not
having
a
permit
and
that's
my
fault.
I
should
you
know,
I'm
a
lawyer.
E
I
should
know
better,
but
I
didn't
realize
it,
and
so
I
mean
we
we
we
have
been
loving
on
this
house
and
we
are
going
to
love
on
this
house
and
it's
going
to
I'm
going
to
return
it
back
to
the
glory
that
it
had,
but
I
need
a
little.
I
need
a
little
help,
we're
going
to
super
glue,
the
copper
on
top
of
the
8x8,
because
I
don't
know
if
I
nail
them.
E
I
don't
know
how
long
they'll
stay
there,
but
they'll
turn
green
like
the
roof
down
at
the
church
in
in
orange,
and
so
that's
our
plan
and
we
want
to
build
this
fence
all
the
way
around
the
property
down
the
down
the
south
side
of
it
and
then
on
the
west
side
of
it
to
for
the
backyard.
F
E
We
I
we
really
would
like
to
have
it
approved.
We've
worked
very
very
hard
at
getting
it
done.
I
mean
that
eight
thousand
dollars
for
the
fencing
material
you
see,
there's
not
some.
In
fact,
I
think
radar
fencing
would
have
cost
more,
and
so
that's
the
that's
our
plan
and
we
really
really
really
love
the
house.
We
love
the
neighborhood.
E
I
live
a
block
and
a
half
away
from
linda
kaye,
so
I
think
she'll
tell
you
that
I'm
I'm
a
pretty
motivated
person,
so
we
thank
you
for
your
time.
E
E
F
G
E
E
Still
there
it
fell
down,
it
was
so
termite
and
let
me
tell
you
what
happened
with
that
when
carrie
was
away,
people
came
in
and
stole
the
doors
and
the
windows
out
of
a
garage
that
had
been
there
all
right
and
it
then
became
completely
termite
written
and
it
collapsed,
and
so
we
just
had
it
just
carted
off,
because
no
it
wasn't
it
was,
rats
were
living
in
it
and
transients
were
living
in
it
and
it
was
a.
It
was
a
disaster.
E
It's
a
lot
nicer
now,
but
that's
that's
what
happened
with
that?
It
literally
collapsed
into
the
into
the
into
the
structure:
half
the
back,
the
south
wall
and
the
roof
collapsed
into
it,
and
so
it
was
you
know
I
couldn't
do
anything
with
it.
It
was
also,
I
think,
in
the
in
the
electrical
easement
also,
so
anyway
I
mean
I.
I.
F
I
E
You
it's
going
to
look
a
lot
better
than
even
you
can
see
right
there,
the
vines
that
we
have
planted
into
the
into
the
front
fence,
that's
going
to
be
totally
covered
all
the
time.
E
A
D
So
for
corner
properties
you
can
have
brick
fence,
or
you
know,
wood
fence
or
wrought
iron.
Concrete
block
is
not
permitted
whatsoever.
D
F
A
In
my
opinion,
that
would
look
better
than
a
than
a
regular
old,
just
plain,
jane
wooden
fence
there
and
also
being
a
corner
lot
gives
you
a
lot
nicer
views
and
he's
got
some
nice
big
trees.
There
too,
so
we've
got
a
nice
yard,
but
you
all
know
the
the
challenges
that
we've
all
had
with
fences
on
on
property.
But
in
this
case
to
me
it's
a
wood
fence
and
and
with
the
addition
of
the
landscaping,
will
be
a
very
nice
look
in
the
future.
B
E
D
And
you
can
see
in
the
photo
if
I
can
get
the
mouse
to
show
up
there.
Okay,
so
stop
work
order
happened
right
around
here.
You
can
see
that
it
wasn't
built
out
or
finished
so
they
did.
They
did
stop
whenever
shea
approached
them.
A
A
D
D
The
structure
has
foundation
issues
rotting,
window
frames,
missing
windows
and
overgrowth,
consisting
of
vines
and
tree
branches
which
hang
off
in
the
roof.
The
owner's
guardian
has
signed
a
demolition
consent
form
and
does
not
owe
taxes
based
on
the
extensive
repairs
needed
for
this
structure.
The
building
code
staff
is
recommending
a
raise
order.
Planning
staff
recommends
approval
of
this
request.
D
Additionally,
this
house
was
in
the
spare.
D
We
do
have
the
I
believe,
the
property
owner
in
the
the
guardian
in
the
audience.
G
You
would
have
to
actually
probably
ask
the
guardian:
we
gotta
complain
about
it
in
january,
so
that's
when
we
went
and
tagged
it
and
then
she
signed
the
demo
consent.
Okay,
thank
you.
J
Name
is
arness
jenkins,
washington.
I
am
going
for
darnell
jenkins,
who
is
actually
the
only
property
who
got
to
do
a
will
for
my
mother
and
the
property's
supposed
to
once
he
passes
he's
supposed
to
pass
over
to
my
sister.
The
problem
is
that
I
didn't
know
that
he
had
been
put
in
this
wheel
and
my
brother
is
incapacitated.
J
He's
he
had
suffered
a
stroke
in
his
brain
stem
at
birth
and
he's
never
spoke.
He
has
grand
male
seizures
right
now.
His
health
is
deteriorating.
He's
he's
he's,
got
a
cholesterol
bag
on
him
and
he's
he
has
to
wear
a
catheter
and
I'm
his
not
only
his
legal
guardian,
but
also
his
his
his
caregiver,
and
so
I
didn't
find
out
till
late
when
I
got
when
that
guy
didn't
find
too
late.
This
was
going
on,
but
anyway
can.
J
So
anyway,
so
my
brother,
you
know.
J
J
I
believe
the
one
that
hit
before
louisiana
there
was
a
hurricane
that
came
to
beaumont
when
that
hit.
Then
it
caused
a
whole
lot
of
damage
to
the
rock
roof
off.
We
tried
to
get
somebody
to
fix
the
roof.
He
took
out
money
and
and
kind
of
like
you
know,
confiscated,
and
he
never
did
do
the
repairs.
So
after
that
it
just
went
downhill
and
so.
J
That's
this
is
why
I
said
it's
in
bad
shape.
I
mean
we
try
to
maintain
the
yard,
but
everything's
going.
I
didn't
know
how
who
we
could
apply
for
to
get
the
house
fixed
and-
and
I
got
to
let
notice
late
and
I'm
like.
J
We
really
basically
don't
have
the
money
to
repair
this
house
and
I
have
pictures
of
the
inside
now,
but
even
more
so
than
what
she
has,
but
it's
the
termites
in
there
it's
just
people
have
broken
in
there
and
I'm
paying
right
now
we're
paying
now
to
keep
the
yard
up,
and
you
know
build
it
up.
It's
just
it's
not
any
fix
condition
to
be
to
just
to
stand.
D
I
did
want
to
add:
we
received
zero
letters
in
favor
of
zero
in
opposition.
Okay,.
A
A
C
I've
got
a
question
when
the
house
is
gone,
the
family
still
owns
the
property
and
will
be
required
to
pay
property
taxes
on
it.
Is
that
still
correct.
G
Yes,
ma'am,
they
still
take
possession
of
the
house,
they
have
to
maintain
the
grass
cutting
and
they
pay
the
taxes
on
it
and
then
just
like
anything
else.
If.
A
All
right,
we'll
move
on
to
file
pz
2022-210
a
request
for
a
certificate
of
demolition
to
demolish
a
house
corporate
in
sheds.
The
address
is
2332
avalon
avenue.
D
D
It
was
supposed
to
come
here,
it
would
have
been
pz2
2022-210,
but
it
is
being
postponed.
It
was
pulled
from
the
agenda.
A
All
right,
then,
do
you
need
a
motion.
A
All
right,
if
it's
okay
with
the
commission,
we'll
just
table
that
one,
maybe
we
can
save
a
house
all
right.
Our
next
item
is
pz
2022-211,
a
request
for
certificate
of
appropriateness
to
install
an
air
conditioning
unit
into
a
sidewall
enclose
and
replace
windows,
replace
front
door
and
paint
house,
and
that
address
is
251
5th
street
251
5th
street.
D
Martin
galvin
valdez
homeowner
is
seeking
permission
to
reduce
windows
on
the
left
and
right
facade,
replace
windows,
replace
the
front
door
paint
and
install
air
conditioning
units
into
the
south
side
of
the
house
located
at
251
5th
street.
All
proposed
work
has
been
completed
without
the
benefit
of
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
or
building
permit.
Originally,
the
south
side
of
the
house
had
five
windows,
and
now
remaining
are
three.
The
north
side
of
the
house
had
four
windows,
and
now
remaining
are
three.
D
D
Lastly,
the
homeowner
seeks
permission
to
keep
the
air
conditioning
units
that
have
that
has
been
installed,
which
protrude
through
the
wall
of
the
home
and
is
visible
from
the
street
right
of
way.
He
explained
that
due
to
the
encampment
at
2197
laurel,
he
needs
to
place
his
units
higher
from
the
ground
to
prevent
further
theft
of
units,
as
it
has
happened
to
him.
D
D
The
request
to
reduce
the
amount
of
windows
6
over
6
pane
windows,
ac
unit
in
the
wall
and
front
door
choice
does
not
seem
to
be
appropriate
with
craftman
style.
Home
staff
recommends
denial
of
this
request.
Staff
encourages
options
to
be
discussed
for
mr
valdez's
renovations.
This
house
is
not
listed
in
the
spare
survey.
D
These
are
the
new
windows
new
door,
the
paint
this
is
on
this
side.
It's
tough
to
tell,
but
you
can
see
an
air
conditioning
unit,
I'm
unaware
if
this
one
was
installed
after
or
if
it
has
always
been
that
way,
but
the
opposite
side
has
been
installed
recently.
D
So
on
this
side,
I
believe
it
was
up
here
and
you
can
see
the
windows
have
been
exchanged
as
well,
and
the
other
two
windows
were
right
here,
but
they
have
now
been
closed
with
siding.
D
Correct,
I
believe
so
shea
there's
two
one
on
one
side
and
the
other
on
the
other
yep.
Okay.
Well,
one
of
the.
F
A
A
Yeah,
okay,
mr
valdez,
could
you
please
state
your
name
and
your
address
for
our
records.
L
And
I
I
closed
two
windows
because
and
not
have
space
to
put
in
my
bed.
I
had
to
put
in
be
under
windows
and
all
windows
broken
when
you
see
the
last
features,
all
windows
and
broken
and
the
the
front
door.
I
know
replace
I
buy
like
that,
because
the
owner
he
put
it
by
three
or
four
windows,
but
small
windows
not
put
the
same
side
windows
and
I
buy
the
same
side
windows
and
I
put
the
ac
by
putting
a
good
installation.
L
L
D
What's
your
name's,
not
here
I
can
see
if
ours
would
be
available.
Please.
F
D
Could
you
call
3100,
actually
4796
and
ask
if
cindy
can
come
down.
L
A
You
know,
there's
a
there's,
a
document
that
you
signed
when
you
when
you
bought
that
house.
Yes,
that
says
that
before
you
do
anything
to
the
house,
you
have
to
bring
what
you
want
to
do
before
this
body
before
you
start
modifying
the
house
and
definitely
particularly
inside
the
city
limits,
you
must
always
have
a
building
permit
to
modify
a
house.
You
cannot
just
do
it
by
yourself.
F
A
L
And
the
the
this
paint
I'm
using
somebody
starting
paint
with
this
color
when
you
go
back
to
the
pictures,
you
want
to
see
the
paint
and
the
this
side
to
the
left,
and-
and
I
I
take
this
paint
to
the
home
depot
and
make
the
same
color,
but
I
understand
the
paint
with
this
paint,
this
new
paint
somebody's
already
studied
about
this
pain.
Yes,
I
take
that
that
I
take
that
piece
of
color
to
the
home
depot
and
make
the
same
color.
A
All
right
now,
we've
got
interpreter
so
whatever
you
were
trying
to
tell
us
once.
M
L
A
M
L
L
D
Quick
to
enclose
more
windows,
we
would
have
to
do
another
certificate
of
appropriateness
and
bring
it
back
because
it's
not
on.
L
L
A
F
I
Please
don
sometimes
aren't
those
six
pan
just
piece
of
plastic
over
a
one
pane.
Could
that
be
possible
that
you
could
just
take.
H
C
C
D
Doing
for
years,
I
wanted
to
clarify
the
windows
that
he
enclosed.
Does
he
need
to
reopen
those
or
you.
A
Now,
maybe
there's
a
some
negotiation
for
that,
but
the
window
that
he
closed
is
on
not
on
the
open
side
of
the
property
right.
It's
close
to
that
side,
yard
of
the
other
house,
and
we
have
allowed
some
modifications
not
to
the
front,
but
some
modifications
to
the
side
in
the
past.
F
A
Yes,
but
the
windows
have
to
be
corrected,
the
front
door
has
to
be
corrected
and
I
don't
know
what
to
do
about
the
ap
units
or
so
when.
I
D
So
I
believe,
they've
always
been
window
units
so
placed
in
the
windows
and
then
recently
they
have
moved
them
up
up
high
due
to
them
due
to
the
air
conditioning
units
being
stolen
before
or
prior
to.
So
I
that's
that's
what
I
was
told
by
mr
valdez,
the
reason
to
elevate
them
and
put
them
into
the
wall,
which
is
a
element
I
wanted
to
include
in
the
staff
report,
because
it
is
important,
you
know
safety
and
security,
but
also
with
respect
to
the
historic
district.
C
I
I
I
A
C
B
K
B
K
It's
defeating
to
come
up
in
here
and
have
to
start
from
scratch
fiscally.
We
don't
know
if
you
have
the
money,
but
it's
never
been
our
concern,
whether
you
have
money.
That's
that's
on
him,
but
I
think
if
I'm
I'm
with
esther,
he
probably
did
not
get
more
than
likely.
He
did
not
get
the
rules.
The
name
of
the
rules
in
old
town.
B
C
K
C
Okay:
okay,
let
me
need
some
help
on
my
motion.
I'd
like
to
scratch
motion
one
motion:
two
okay
file,
pz
2022-211,.
C
F
B
Yeah
and
just
maybe
if
we
could
get
them
a
copy
well,
this
isn't
part
of
the
motion.
Second,
second,.
C
A
Okay,
we
have
motion
a
second
any
other
discussion.
A
Going
to
say,
if
we,
if
we
don't,
let's
make
sure
that
we
get
them
translated
to
spanish,
and
you
know
when
people
come
in
if
they
didn't
know
about
it,
they'd
be
able
to
put
that
in
your
game.
A
All
right
well,
then,
I'll
call
for
a
vote,
please
all
in
favor
signify
by
seeing
eye
all
opposed
same
side.
All
right,
mr
valdez
we've
got
you
half
of
the
way
there.
H
H
A
G
A
A
Let
me
finish:
okay.
The
other
thing
is
that
this
body's
approved
those
windows
that
you
closed
in.
I'm
telling
you
that's
a
very
rare
occurrence
here:
okay
included,
they
approved
that
and
they
approved
you
putting
the
window
units
through
the
wall.
But
you
got
to
correct
the
front
of
the
house.
You
got
to
get
all
that
junk
off
the
front.
Porch
you
store
that
behind
the
house.
You
don't
store
that
stuff
on
the
front
porch
in
this
district,
we've
got
rules
against
that
much
stuff
on
the
front.
K
A
L
A
You
might
give
mr
valdez
in
the
sections
that
you
referenced
in
our
guide
in
our
old
house
guy.
There
are
pictures
of
acceptable
front
doors
and
there
are
pictures
of
acceptable
windows.
You
might
give
those
or
make
copies
of
them
to
give
them
to
mr
valdez.
So
when
he
goes
shopping
then
he
can
have.
A
A
Any
questions
for
staff.
Thank
you.
We
appreciate
your
diligence
and
and
your
work,
and
I
know
it's
thankless
a
lot
of
times,
but
we
appreciate
the
work
that
you
do
and
particularly
those
on
the
commission
that
live
in
the
district,
appreciate
everything
you're
doing
so.
Thank
you
so
much
all
right.
If
is
there
any
other
business?