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From YouTube: 2022.11.03 - Board of Supervisors Special Called Meeting
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A
B
B
B
Thank
you
all
for
coming
tonight,
I'm
going
to
take
just
a
few
minutes
of
your
time
and
just
give
you
some
chairman
remarks
and
then
we're
going
to
hold
this
similar
to
the
way
we
would
do
a
public
hearing,
we're
going
to
have
staff,
do
a
presentation
so
that
we
can
get
a
lot
of
information
out.
B
It
may
answer
some
questions
for
you
and
then
afterwards,
we're
going
to
hear
from
the
public,
so
I
just
wanted
to
share
with
you
a
little
bit
about
this
board,
and
this
Bedford
County
historically,
has
been
the
biggest
advocate
for
the
taxpayer
in
the
Commonwealth
of
Virginia.
B
B
Right
well,
I'm,
gonna,
I'm,
gonna,
read
it
to
you,
one
of
the
items
that
says
Revenue
effort
across
the
state
ranges
from
a
high
of
1.8729
in
in
Emporia
City
to
a
low
of
0.5064
in
Bedford.
County
I
want
to
make
note
of
that.
That's
where
the
we
have
the
lowest
tax
burden.
This
is
all
taxes,
sales,
tax,
personal
property,
real
estate.
B
B
1.0051
cents
for
every
one
dollar
in
Revenue
capacity-
and
it
says
on
average,
cities
are
a
little
above
one
and
counties
average
0.88
we're
at
0.50.
So
it
gives
you
an
idea,
in
fact,
the
next
slide
and
you
just
leave
the
whole
thing
up,
but
this
shows
from
2011
to
2020.
B
the
worst
Bedford
County
ever
was
was
127
out
of
133
localities.
This
is
as
the
state
they
they
rank
you
with
a
lower
number.
If
your
Revenue
effort
is
low,
so,
for
instance,
in
the
city
of
Lynchburg,
they're
10th
in
the
state
for
collecting
taxes
from
their
citizens
in
2011
we
were
127,
but
for
the
last
three
years,
2018
2019
and
2020
we've
been
133
out
of
133..
B
We
have
historically
are
The
taxpayers
Advocate,
and
this
board
is
responsible
for
that.
I
just
wanted
to
to
let
people
know
because
I've
seen
a
lot
of
conspiracy
that
well
we're
just
trying
to
stick
to
the
taxpayers.
Well,
we
never
have,
and
we
never
will
so
I
wanted
to
give
you
a
little
bit
of
that
background.
I'm
gonna,
because
I
was
going
to
cover
many
of
the
things
that
staff's
going
to
cover
I'm,
just
going
to
hand
it
over
to
Robert.
B
Let
him
share
with
you
his
presentation
and
then
we'll
open
it
up
for
the
public
hearing
all
right.
C
Right
all
right.
Well,
thank
you,
Mr,
chair
for
those
who
don't
know
who
I
am
my
name
is
Robert
hiss
and
I
serve
as
a
County
Administrator
for
Bedford,
County
and
I
have
19
slides
that
I
want
to
go
through
this
evening.
C
So
a
little
bit
of
History
how
we
got
to
where
we
are.
Yes,
sir,
we
we
started
with
staff
started
to
meet
with
the
Board
of
Supervisors
in
budget
work
sessions
in
March
and
April
of
this
year
and
during
those
budget
work
sessions.
We
talk
about
all
sorts
of
Revenue
aspects,
and
particularly,
we
talked
to
some
about
the
personal
property
tax.
We
had
several
discussion,
a
couple
discussions
and
a
couple
different
meetings.
We
know
we
received
feedback
from
County
staff
and
the
revenue
commissioner.
At
the
time.
C
The
consensus
of
the
at
that
time,
the
consensus
of
the
supervisors,
was
to
leave
the
personal
property
tax
rate.
The
same
I
mean
what
we've
had
the
same
property
tax
rate
for
a
number
of
years,
so
the
decision
was
to
leave
it
there.
We
did
talk
about
and
those
supervisors
did
inquire,
whether
to
assess
the
vehicles
at
a
rate
less
than
the
100
percent
of
the
clean
trade-in
value
and
the
recommendation
from
both
staff
and
the
rec
and
the
Revenue
Commissioner
was
to
maintain
it
at
the
100
fair
market
value.
C
So
I'll
just
pause
there
for
just
a
second-
and
this
was
a
key
decision
that
we
were
I
know
I.
We
were
monitoring
what
other
counties
and
cities
were
doing
across
the
state.
Regarding
this
decision
Matrix
and
there
were
there-
were
a
lot
of
counties,
not
the
majority,
but
a
lot
of
the
counties
and
cities
opted
to
do
the
exact
same
thing
that
we
did
in
terms
of
keeping
them
property
tax
the
same
and
assessing
the
vehicle
still
at
100
percent.
C
Now
there
were
other
cities
and
counties
who
decided
to
either
lower
their
rate
or
to
assess
vehicles
at
a
different
percentage,
but
I
know
a
couple
things
that
are
worthwhile
pointing
out
with
that
is
that
the,
if
and
in
those
localities
who
make
those
decisions
I'm,
not
necessarily
criticizing
that
decision,
I'm
just
pointing
out
what
what's
going
to
happen
with?
That
is
those
localities
who
decided
to
assess
vehicles
at
75
or
80
percent
or
whatever.
C
That
percentage
is
that's
good
for
this
year,
but
next
year
or
the
year
after
those
localities
are
going
to
have
to
are
going
to
increase
it
back
to
100
percent,
so
I
don't
know
if
they're
being
transparent
with
their
citizens
or
not,
but
their
their
tax
bills.
They're
going
to
have
crowds
like
this
at
their
tax
meetings,
either
next
year
or
the
year
after,
whenever
their
tax
bills
go
back
up,
and
that
was
something
that
we
we
discussed
with.
The
Board
of
Supervisors
was
well.
When
do
we
want
to
have
this
happen?
C
B
B
Don't
recall
discussing
crowds
I
know
that
we
as
a
board
discussed
on
a
percentage
of
full
market
value,
because
we
recognize
that
you
know
the
the
situation
with
vehicles
was
just
extraordinary.
It
was
different
than
what
the
normal
everyday
growth
is,
and
so
we
wanted
to
to
use
a
percentage
of
full
value.
It
was
asked
of
us
by
by
the
commission
on
revenues
office
and
not
do
that
and
I'm
not
sure
the
reason
it
may
have
had
to
do
with
the
software
I
understand,
there's
some
complexities
with
using
the
new
software.
B
C
Anyway,
and
thanks
for
that
clarification,
Mr,
chair,
you're,
correct
and
the
one
of
the
reasons
was
new
software
system,
one
of
the
others
was
about
uniformity
of
you
always
do
100,
and
what
does
that
look
like?
If
you
don't
do
100
and
what
I
said
previously?
But
you
are
correct:
yep
April
in
April,
of
course,
property
tax
rate
was
set,
like
I
said
same
rate
in
June,
the
Board
of
Supervisors
adopted
the
budget
and
it
included
18.3
million
dollars
from
property
tax
revenues
to
meet
the
expenditures
in
the
budget.
C
So,
on
April
8th,
the
revenue
commission,
commissioner,
submits
the
the
vehicle
data
to
the
JD
Power.
This
is
a
formerly
NADA
and
receives
the
Assessments
in
return
based
on
the
100
percent,
now
clarify
this
of
the
clean,
clean,
trade-in
value.
Two
different
things:
vehicle
value
could
be
a
little
bit
different,
but
clean
trade-in
value,
so
JD
Power
is
a
very
common.
Is
the
commonly
used
guide
that
and
I'll
get
into
that
in
just
a
minute?
The
the
supervisors
in
September
approve
the
personal
property
tax
rate
relief
rate
and
set
it
at
31.5
percent.
C
In
October
24th,
a
property
tax
bills
were
mailed
and
then,
of
course,
everybody
kind
of
had
a
shock
regarding
that
situation.
When
the
property
tax
bills
were
mailed
and
then
the
County
Administration
saw
also
that
the
35
increase
in
values
they
were
the
previous
year.
C
So
kind
of
summarize
that
you
know
we
talked
about
the
vehicles
had
appreciated,
would
be
increasing
in
value.
We
did
have
limited
data
available
at
that
time
when
we
were
making
the
property
tax
decision
rate.
The
supervisors
made
that
property
tax
decision
rate
four
months
before
the
assessment
values
are
received,
and
that's
what
we've
always
done.
I
mean
that's
been
typical
and
of
course,
in
typical
years,
whenever
the
vehicles
are
depreciating
that
works
out
just
fine,
but
as
a
dynamic
situation
that
the
the
anyways
that
that
created
some
confusion.
C
This
year
there
has
been
some
discussion
about
do
if
we
could
have
made
a
different
tax
relief
decision.
Yes,
there
could
have
been
a
different
decision
made.
That
would
have
been
most
likely
a
small
impact,
but
would
have
not
really
solved
the
major
issue.
But
you
know
there
was
some
lack
of
data
available
at
that
time
in
order
to
make
that
type
of
decision.
So
you
know
it's
an
unprecedented
situation.
C
There's
definitely
been
a
lot
of
lessons
learned
through
this
situ
through
this
time
period
and
definitely
going
to
implement
a
number
of
improvements
moving
forward
so
just
transitioning
into
a
little
bit
more
information
about
the
personal
property
tax.
The
rate
like
I
said,
is
two
dollars:
35
cents
per
100
for
certain
categories
and
a
dollar.
Seventy
for
others,
I'll
get
into
a
little
bit
more
detail
on
that
currently
keyword
currently
due
on
December
5th.
Just
a
note
here
that
personal
property
tax
is
not
earmarked
for
any
particular
government
expense.
C
It's
just
used
for
gov
General
governmental
purposes.
C
The
assessments
could
Virginia
requires
that
for
most
vehicles
at
the
value
be
from
a
recognized
pricing
guide
also
be
applied
uniformly
and
be
applied.
As
of
January
1st
of
the
tax
year.
So
number
three,
there
is
very
important.
I
know.
That's
the
the
car
market.
Vehicle
Market
has
been
changing
this
calendar
year,
but
in
the
state
code.
This
is
what
we
have
to
do
it.
C
As
of
January
1st
of
the
tax
year-
and
this
is
part
of
the
revenue
commissioner's
responsibilities
in
her
office,
JD
Power
is
a
guide
used
by
Revenue
Commissioners
in
Virginia
now.
So
it's
a
very
well
accepted
source
of
publication
and,
of
course,
you
know
randomly
changing
the
pricing
guide
and
disrupts
the
uniformity
Clause
of
the
requirement
for
how
this
is
how
personal
property
taxes
assessed.
C
So
what
are
the
personal
property
tax
categories?
The
greatest
increases
are
we're
seeing
in
the
vehicles
and,
of
course,
they're
taxed
at
2.35
cents.
C
The
assessment
increased
on
vehicles
by
35
percent
of
the
value
of
overall,
so
that's
cars,
trucks,
motorcycles,
motorhomes
trailers,
of
course,
there's
other
categories
that
are
within
personal
property
tax.
You
know
there
might
be
citizens
who
have
a
personal
property
tax
bill
that
have
a
car,
they
may
have
a
boat
and
they
may
have
you
know
some
level
of
heavy
equipment
that
they
may
also
own.
So
you
know
people
have
a
wide
variety
of
personal
property
areas
that
are
taxed,
so
you
know
the
other
categories.
C
C
Yeah
and
boats
and
boats
increased
and
anyways
you
can
see
what
what
happened
with
those
different
values
there.
C
And
the
personal,
so
the
personal
property
tax
categories
is
important
because
I'll
go
into
a
couple
of
things:
I'm
going
to
talk
about
again:
the
values
of
vehicles
and
trailers
increased
by
35
percent.
The
other
categories
that
I
mentioned
really
aren't
a
huge
share
of
that
Revenue.
You
know
it's
14
percent
of
the
total
amount
that
was
billed
roughly
3.9
million
dollars
of
that.
What
was
billed
so?
It's
not
a
significant
portion,
I
think
most
individuals,
their
situation
is
more
tied
to
the
vehicles
and
trucks
and
trailers,
and
things
like
that.
C
So
one
of
the
big
decisions
that
needed
to
be
made
going
forward
is
whether
to
include
all
tax
categories
or
only
vehicle
accounts,
for
a
difference.
If
we're
going
to
talk
about
a
rebate.
So
that's
something
that
we've
definitely
talked
about
at
a
staff
level
and
talked
with
the
board.
Members
is
looking
at
a
rebate
and
I'll
get
into
some
details
with
that
in
a
second
I
mean
well,
our
recommendation
from
our
staff
is
to
consider
limiting
the
relief
to
the
most
impacted
area.
C
That's
the
cars
trucks,
motorcycles,
motorhomes
and
trailers,
and
and
to
maybe
not
consider
not
doing
a
rebate
for
some
of
the
other
categories
so
collection.
This
gets
into
kind
of
some
nuances
with
budgeting,
but
collect
so
we
don't.
C
Nine
percent
they'll
continue
to
pay
over
the
subsequent
months
and
years
and
typically
I
will
always
end
up
between
a
95
and
99
collection
over
the
life
of
a
tax
bill
cycle
usually
closer
to
99
percent.
By
the
time
we
actually
close
it
all
out.
So
in
terms
of
collecting
and
this
conference
Board
of
Supervisors
point
in
terms
of
how
we
calculate
things
it's
worthwhile
thinking
about
a
one
percent
difference
in
the
collection
rate
equates
to
then
this
billing
year
about
237
thousand
dollars.
So
that's
a
a
significant
amount
in
how
we
calculate
different
things.
C
So
that's
a
surplus
of
money
and
so
we'll
get
into
so
we'll
get
so
we'll
get
into
what
that
looks
like
here
in
just
a
second,
so
that
was
you
know
that
18.3
million
was
a
conservative
estimate
and
typically
what
we
do
is
we
receive
anything
over
that
amount.
We
put
that
money
into
a
fund
balance
to
help
with
future
capital
projects
and
for
much
needed.
You
know
different
aspects
that
are
needed.
B
C
Okay,
so
I'll
get
to
the
options,
a
couple
more
about
six,
more
slides
left,
so
the
couple
different
options
and
our
issue
a
rebate
to
the
taxpayers
and
we'll
talk.
What
that
looks
like
option:
two
A
and
B,
probably
the
least
popular
ones,
but
they're
still
options
is
a
issuing.
A
rebate
for
a
for
a
portion
of
the
overage
that
was
collected
or
to
be
is
not
issuing
any
rebate
and
keeping
all
that
for
future
Capital
expenses.
C
Probably
not
a
good,
may
not
be
the
most
popular
one,
but
it
is
an
option
and
number
three
is
to
pause,
cancel
the
current
billing
cycle,
revisit
the
tax
rate
and
deadline
assessment
rate
relief
rate
and
reissue
bills
and
we'll
talk
about
that,
but
that
entails
so
option
one
recommending
issuing
a
rebate.
Also,
if
we
do
issue
a
rebate,
I
think
it'd
be
worthwhile
having
conversations
with
a
Treasurer
about
extending
the
do
deadline,
December
5th,
when
the
bills
went
out,
December
5th
was
only
about
five
weeks
or
so
from
when
the
bills
went
out.
C
So
having
with
that
big
of
an
increase-
and
it
would
be
worthwhile-
definitely
considering
an
extension
potentially
into
January
also
can,
if
we're
going
to
do
a
rebate
or
a
credit,
do
that
live
when
the
financial
system
is
programmed
to
make
those
adjustments
we're
working
on
that
right
now,
with
our
staff.
Other
possible
criteria
to
consider
is
a
you
know.
C
So
if
we
do
this,
if
we
do
just
a
rebate
on
vehicles
only
if
you
look
at
the
amount
of
tax
billed
into
2021
versus
a
amount
of
tax
billed
in
2022,
you
can
see
that's
about
7.8
million
dollars
that
is
again
a
surplus
over
and
above
what
we
what
we
budgeted.
So
if
there
was
a
rebate
and
given
back
to
the
taxpayers,
we
look
at
an
approximately
a
33
percent
rebate
on
on
the
bill
and
that
would
be
a
pretty
substantial
rebate.
C
So
that
would
be
very
helpful
in
a
lot
of
situations
and
anyways.
It
really
is
in
the
spirit
of
saying
that
you
know
this
is
Surplus
money
and,
and
that
would
it'd
be
worthwhile,
considering
giving
it
back.
C
Interestingly,
though,
the
way
the
math
works
out,
if
you
do
a
rebate
on
all
the
categories
of
personal
property
again,
you
know
we
talked
to
I
mentioned
earlier,
about
boats
and
airplanes
and
some
of
those
other
categories
of
personal
property.
Actually,
the
rebate
goes
down
because
of
how
the
math
works.
C
So,
of
course,
you
know
this
was
a
live
process
that
we're
working
on
so
the
technical
feasibility
of
doing
this
I'm
in
Bedford
County,
we've
never
performed
a
mass
rebate
ever
and
in
particular
our
new
financial
accounting
system,
so
we're
working
with
our
financial
system
technicians
to
devise
a
process
for
issuing
those
rebates
that
will
happen
overnight,
but
we
are
working
on
it.
We
will
of
course,
need
to
test
the
system
to
ensure
accuracy.
C
You
know
once
we
get
direction
on
how
to
proceed
and
and
that
type
of
thing,
and
then,
of
course,
you
know
if
we
ever.
If
we
have
partial
payments,
we've
got
to
figure
out
how
we
can
deal
with
those
as
well
option
2A
and
2B,
like
I,
said,
and
probably
probably
not
the
most
popular
options,
but
they
are
options.
C
Is
that
the
county
and
schools
do
a
future
expensive,
Capital
expenses
that
overage
or
extra
collection
could
of
course,
certainly
help
offset
need
for
future
Debt,
Service
and,
of
course,
offset
the
costs
for
some
of
those
for
some
of
those
types
of
expenses.
You
can
see
some
examples
listed
there.
Of
course,
you
can
rebate
just
a
portion
of
that
overage
or
you
can
do
none
or
you
can
do
all
what
we,
which
is
what
option
one
is
option.
Three
is
really
starting
over
with
the
reassessment
data.
C
You
know
you
can
you
can
revisit
the
personal
property
tax
rate,
the
relief
rate
and
whether
to
assess
that
100
of
value
there's
also
a
Senate
bill
that
was
passed
and
signed
into
a
law
that
allows
the
localities
of
tax
vehicles
at
a
different
rate
than
other
personal
property.
That
was,
interestingly,
that
lost
sunsets
in
January
2025.
So
it's
only
allowed
for
a
couple
years.
C
We'll
say
that
you
know
that
doing
all
this
kind
of
introduces
confusion
into
an
already
somewhat
confusion
process,
particularly
those
who
have
already
paid
there'd,
be
a
significant
public
information
education
campaign
and
that
might
be
difficult.
We
end
up
almost
doing
double
work,
because
if
you
do
this,
you
end
up
having
to
issue
some
rebates
and
then
reissue
bills
to
the
people
who
haven't
paid.
So
that's
kind
of
confusing
and
not-
and
it's
confusing
for
me
I-
think
it'd
be
confusing
for
other
people
too,
but
anyways.
It
may
not
be
technically
feasible.
C
C
So
the
final
slide
is
really
just
our
next
steps
is
to
receive
direction
from
the
supervisors.
You
know,
that's
kind
of
the
purpose
of
tonight's
meeting
is
to
go
through
some
of
these
options
and
then
answer
some
questions
and
receive
some
direction,
depending
on
the
chosen
option
or
other
options
that
might
be
out
there
consider
a
deadline.
Extension
I
think
that
would
be
something
worthwhile
talking
about.
If
a
rebate
is
chosen,
we
do
need
to
finalize
the
rebate
percentage
and
the
in
the
different
category
yeah.
C
The
different
categories
that
were
I
talked
about
earlier
need
to
develop
a
process
in
the
financial
system
and,
of
course,
test
that
process
determine
if
a
rebate
credit
can
be
issued
during
the
during
the
billing
period
versus
after
the
billing
period,
which
hopefully
we
can
do
it
during
and
of
course,
we
need
to
develop
a
few
rules
and
processes
and
frequently
asked
questions
in
a
public
public
information
campaign
and
education
campaign.
C
In
order
to
inform
everybody
about
this
too
so
anyways,
a
lot
of
work
still
needs
to
be
done,
but
this
is
a
first
step
in
that
conversation
in
terms
of
getting
some
Direction.
C
B
All
right
thanks,
Robert
I
have
we
only
had
allocated
30
minutes,
but
I
have
22
people
signed
up
to
speak
I'm,
gonna,
I'm
gonna,
extend
it
we'll
go
to
45
minutes
so
we'll
give
everybody
two
minutes
each.
B
So
this
is
going
to
be
a
little
longer
than
what
we
had
anticipated
but
trying
to
give
everyone
an
opportunity.
I.
E
F
B
B
Yes,
please
and
then
Melissa
kaisler
Easter
will
be
on
on
Deck.
Please.
H
My
name
is
Kenneth
Prickett.
My
address
is
106
Sherilyn
Lane.
Thank
you
for
the
presentation
and
having
us
come
up
here
and
and
voice
our
opinions.
H
H
H
H
B
Thank
you,
I
will
say
if,
if
you've
got
a
unique
situation
with
the
vehicle,
I
mean
very
difficult
to
get
in
right
now,
but
but
the
commissioner
revenue's
office
does
address
those
on
a
case-by-case
basis,
I
mean
if
it's,
if
it's,
if
it's
something
that
you
can
prove
that
it's
that
it's
different
than
what
clean
trade-in
value
would
be.
If
it's
just
you
disagree
with
the
number
I'm,
not
sure
if
there
is
as
accommodating
Melissa
is
next
and
then
Ronnie
Lowry
will
be
on
day.
I
My
name's
Melissa
keister
and
my
address
is
106
Sherilyn
Lane
also
I
guess
my
biggest
thing
was
I
have
a
car,
it's
15
years
old
and
it
has
230
000
miles
on
it.
I
still
drive
it
to
work
and
everything,
but
you
know
I've
paid
my
taxes
every
year
and
the
bill
shows
up
and
it's
increased
more
than
it.
You
know
I've
every
year
you
look
at
your
taxes
and
they
go
down
just
a
little
bit
because
you've
held
onto
a
vehicle
for
this.
That
purpose
and
I
understand
you
know.
I
So
it's
kind
of
I,
don't
know
just
makes
you
feel
like
you're
being
taken
advantage
of
by
the
county.
That's.
A
B
All
right
now,
Ronnie
and
then
Tim
nesbeth
I
think
would
be
on
deck.
J
All
right,
my
name,
is
Ronnie
Lowry.
My
address
is
one
five.
Two,
eight
three
Big
Island
Highway,
oh
yeah,
it's
going
with
this
I
mean
with
the
cars
I
mean
I,
have
an
automobile
here:
I
drive
back
forward
to
work,
I
mean
I've,
hit
two
deer
with
it.
Y'all
want
to
sit
here
and
value
things
at
different
stuff,
like
that,
I
mean
if
you
go
through
Carfax
running
VIN
numbers
I
mean
values
of
cars
are
different:
I
actually
have
property
in
the
state
of
Georgia.
J
The
state
of
Georgia
sits
here
and
tax
you
when
you
buy
the
vehicle
and
there's
no
personal
property
tax
at
the
end
of
that.
So,
where
I'm
looking
at
even
along
the
lines
of
just
canceling
registration
and
then
register
my
vehicles
back
in
the
state
of
Georgia
I
mean
to
keep
this
from
going
on,
I
mean
there's
other
ways
to
do
it.
I
mean
we
can
go
with
court.
B
B
B
L
My
name
is
Tim
nesbeth
1925,
Pilot,
Mountain
Road,
when
I
got
the
tax
bill
in
the
mail
and
I
saw
the
yellow
explanation
of
why
I
thought
how
generic
an
attorney
told
me
a
long
time
ago.
He
said
Tim.
He
said
it's
not
about
right
and
wrong.
It's
about
the
presentation,
so
I
kind
of
got
a
flashback
when
I
read
that
it's
like
it's
just
so
generic
we're
coming
out
of
covid
and
it
seems
like
every
time
we
turn
around
everywhere.
We
look
everybody's
blaming
covet.
That's
why
the
prices
have
to
go
up.
L
G
M
Jason
Overstreet
220,
Mustang,
Road,
first
I'm,
not
sure
this
is
presentation.
There
did
much
to
convince
anybody.
Nobody
knew
this
was
coming
I
know
you
can't
answer
my
questions
right
now,
but
these
I
have
some
hard
questions
that
I
think
need
to
be
asked.
The
issue
of
vehicle
values
was
first
discussed
here
in
the
March
meeting.
M
There
was
some
concern
then
House
Bill
1239,
which
was
signed
into
law
by
governor
yonkin
on
April
21st
and
the
Senate
Bill
771
addressed
this
Governor
yonkin's
comment
on
March
28th
was
if
local
government
leadership
is
not
addressed,
the
increased
value
of
used
vehicles,
then
taxpayers
are
facing
a
significant
tax
increase
as
the
Commonwealth
of
Virginia
constitutionally
mandates,
100
percent,
fair
market
value
and
property
taxes.
M
Well,
I
was
the
ball
drop.
Mr
chairman:
where
was
your
leadership?
Mr
Sharp
the
buck
stops
with
you.
Were
you
too
distracted
by
the
7th
District
School
Board
Race
you've
been
campaigning
for.
Why
was
this
not
followed
up
on?
How
did
we
get
here?
That's
your
job,
Mr
Sharp,
Mr
Sharp,
you
like
to
tell
people
that
you
run
this
County.
M
M
8.1
million
extra
dollars,
You're
Building
us,
while
rebates,
will
be
helpful.
They
will
take
months
at
best.
The
citizens
of
Bedford
County
need
help.
Now
the
citizens
of
Bedford
County
cannot
afford
this.
Now,
33
percent
increase
or
I'm
sorry,
a
33
rebate
is
what's
been
proposed.
I
still
collecting
an
extra
two
percent
from
us.
That's
a
lot
of
money.
There
needs
to
be
a
significant
delay
on
due
dates.
M
N
My
name
is
Donald
Boyer
4131
Saunders,
Grove
Drive,
Moneta
Virginia.
You
know,
I
heard
this
fair
market
value
brought
up
a
lot
I'm
having
a
hard
time,
understanding
that
when
you
buy
a
vehicle
for
sixty
thousand
dollars-
and
it's
already
two
years
old
and
you
get
a
tax
assessment
from
the
county
for
sixty
nine
thousand
five
hundred
dollars,
that's
nine
thousand
five
hundred
dollars
more
than
I
paid
for
the
vehicles.
O
N
Where's,
the
market
value
I
just
had
this
vehicle
assessed
for
fifty
five
thousand
dollars.
That's
fourteen
thousand
dollars
you
have
it
assessed
more
than
I.
Had
it
assessed
for
so
I.
Don't
know,
I,
don't
know
who's
doing
this.
Assessing.
Where
are
you
getting
these
figures
from,
but
it
seems
a
little
out
of
whack
to
me.
N
P
P
Specific
issue
I'd
like
to
talk
about
the
tax
overall
in
general,
all
right,
if
I
could
have
weighed
a
magic
wand,
I
would
eliminate
this
tax
personal
property
tax
altogether
I
come
I
came
from
a
state,
Pennsylvania
moved
here,
and
that
state
had
a
nickname
land
of
taxes.
The
one
thing
they
got
right
was:
you
got
taxed
for
your
vehicle,
one
time
from
then
on
no
more
taxes.
P
So
if
I
can
Matt,
if
I
could
wave
a
magic
wand,
I'd
get
rid
of
all
these
property
taxes
and
maybe
to
offset
that
increase
the
sales
tax
by
a
certain
percent.
Then
you
wouldn't
even
have
this
problem,
but
now
to
this
specific
problem
at
hand
and
before
you
throw
the
commissioner
of
Revenue
under
the
bus
as
soon
as
I
would
have
heard
that
he
or
she
I,
don't
know
who
it
is
was
thinking
that
used
car
prices
were
going
to
go
down
next
year.
That
would
have
been
a
red
flag.
P
P
You
take
the
last
five
years
of
Revenue
that
you
got
on
personal
property
taxes
each
year
determine
what
the
difference
is
in
that
Revenue
that'll
come
up
with
a
percentage,
then
take
an
average
of
that
percentage
over
those
five
years
and
then
take
last
year's
revenue
and
apply
that
percentage
to
and
now
that's
your
discount
rate
that
solves
the
problem
and
before
you
think
well,
maybe
we
can
just
get
a
little
more
out
of
it
from
packed
pairs.
That
to
me
is
a
tax
increase.
P
I
would
like
to
see
a
publication
of
the
last
five
years
of
Revenue
what
the
average
percentage
was
increase
from
year
to
year
and
then
what
the
new
one's
going
to
be
and
if
it's
any
higher
than
the
average
increase
of
that
percentage
and
I
know
you
raised
my
tax
and
I
will
hold
accountable
those
people
who
raise
my
tax.
You
know
you,
you
made
a
comment
about
how
we
have
the
lowest
tax.
Well,
there's
a
reason
for
that.
That's
why
people
want
to
move
here
and
keep
it
that
way.
P
Okay-
and
you
think
this
is
a
problem.
Wait.
The
real
estate
assessments
come
in
so
I
would
strongly
recommend
you
go
with
what
I
just
suggested
so
that
we
know
for
sure
that
you're
not
getting
an
increase
in
taxes
or
Revenue
we're
I'm
on
a
fixed
income.
I'm
sure
many
are
here
too
I
don't
get
an
increase.
I
got
to
pay
that
inflation
I
got
to
pay
on
higher
taxes.
Now
I
don't
get
I'm
on
a
pension.
I,
don't
take
Social
Security,
yet
I'm
on
a
pension,
but
I
don't
get
a
raise.
P
Q
B
B
Q
Off
all
right,
all
right,
it's
home
all
right,
like
I,
said
I've,
been
in
business
35
years,
never
seen
anything
like
this
I
look
at
these
numbers
every
day
at
work,
I
even
have
them
on
my
phone
I
can
pull
up
any
car
I
got
it
I'm.
Looking
at
an
analyst
on
a
zoom
call
with
a
guy
in
Atlanta
through
Manheim
Mannheim
is
the
largest
wholesaler
of
cars
in
the
United
States.
All
right,
we
were
looking
at
a
graph.
The
graph
is
going
like
14.
Q
You
know
15
16
17.,
it's
doing
this
right
at
the
bottom,
then,
when
she
got
to
20
it
went
straight
to
the
top,
like
this
I
mean
way
up
all
right
now,
it's
turning,
but
instead
of
turning
this
way,
it's
turning
straight
down.
We're
looking
at
between
30
to
45
percent
devaluation
in
in
use
cause
right
now,
within
five
months,
the
economy
is
crashing.
These
cars
are
crashing.
Q
Q
So
we
need
to
be
One,
Jump,
Ahead,
I'm,
One,
Jump,
Ahead
of
them,
because
I
know
what
they're
gonna
do
if
you're
gonna.
If
you're
gonna
do
anything
with
the
cause.
I
know
you
said
you
do
it
at
clean
trade.
You
need
to
bring
it
in
at
loan.
If
you're
going
to
use
NADA,
which
will
I
do
here,
it
is
right
here,
JD,
pass
same
thing,
y'all
pulling
right
there,
all
right,
bringing
in
at
Long
Bay
the
talking
about
doing
the
30.
Q
You
know:
percent
rebate,
that's
a
boat
where
you
need
to
be
30
to
40
percent,
because
that's
that's!
How
over
inflated
these
cars
and
that's
how
much
they're
going
to
drop
within
five
months,
these
used
cars
I
was
just
some
Zoom
meeting
with
him
other
day.
So
you
know
that's
the
way
I
feel
about
it
all
right.
Q
B
You
all
right,
Bill's
next
and
then
Steve
baboni
will
be
on
deck.
R
Thank
you,
I
do
like
the
presentation
you
made
in
the
beginning
about
where
we
stand
compared
to
other
counties
that
that's
a
consoling
Factor.
Listening
to
all
these
really
very
good
comments,
I
determined
that
the.
R
I'm
sorry,
1987
Stone,
Mountain,
Road.
B
R
Could
just
speak
right
into
that
little
change
of
source
for
determining
the
assessments
for
the
vehicles
up
to
35
percent.
The
formula
is
just
not
good
as
everyone
else
who
said
clean
value
is
set
to
so
many
factors.
Mileage
has
been
in
an
accident
what
condition
how
many
miles
a
year
they
use
a
formula.
I
think
that
formula
has
contributed
to
this
problem.
I,
don't
think
it
was
necessarily
intentional,
but
I
think
switching
is
one
of
the
problems.
How
to
get
it
back.
You've
got
lots
of
ideas.
R
One
sentence
I
can't
stand
here
is
because
new
vehicles
are
not
available.
One
said
one
person
said
this:
yellow
letter
is
generic.
It's
just
not
well
written,
it's
not
thought
out
and
then
there's
one
sentence
on
the
fourth
paragraph,
one
two
three
about
due
to
the
increase
in
vehicles.
The
percentage
of
relief
offered
for
each
quality
of
his
has
decreased
in
2022
I,
can't
figure
that
sent
sentence
out,
but
I
think
the
big
problem
is
how
you
arrived
at
the
assessments
and
that
should
be
looked
at
and
reviewed.
Thank
you.
S
It
works
okay,
I'm,
Steve,
aboni,
I,
live
at
1225,
Ashland
Circle
and
as
I
look
around
this
room
over
here,
I
would
say
it's
a
fair
guess
that
maybe
60
to
70
percent
of
the
people
here
are
retired
on
a
fixed
income.
S
Basically
everybody
everybody
that
spoke.
They
stated
my
concerns,
but
I'm
here
looking
at
the
future,
and
all
I
can
say
is-
is
that
if
somebody
went
to
buy
a
new
car,
you
could
start
at
about
25
000
on
up
to
God
knows
what,
and
most
of
us
in
this
room
cannot
afford
a
new
car.
S
So
it
means
that
we
have
to
go,
buy
a
used
car
supply
and
demand.
You
go,
everybody
starts
going
and
buying
used
cars
over
there.
It's
going
to
keep
going
up
and
up
and
up
until
they
become
unaffordable
too.
Then.
What
you
know,
gentlemen,
mentioned
about
you,
know
real
estate
taxes
that
are
going
to
be
forthcoming
because
our
houses
increased
40
percent
of
whatever
it
was
I'm
concerned
about
the
future.
Here
I
mean
we
can't
have
a
community
with
everybody
having
to
go
on
welfare
just
to
exist,
I'm
very
concerned.
T
Name
is
Roxy
Fisher
and
I
live
at
519
Jackson
Street.
Here
in
Bedford
my
issue
is
yeah.
I
bought
a
new
car
last
year,
y'all
charged
me
six
thousand
dollars
more
than
I
paid
for
it.
How
the
heck
come
on
now.
Let's,
let's
get
some
real
realism
here.
I,
don't
think
the
car
is
worth
six
thousand
dollars
more
than
I
paid
for
it.
A
year
ago,
I
drove
it
a
year.
T
Math
doesn't
work
that
way,
I'm
willing
to
pay
it,
but
like
the
rest
of
these
folks,
I'm
on
a
fixed
income,
I'm
retired
I
live
alone.
I
have
a
little
house
that
I
I
own,
but
still
come
on.
This
is
700
y'all
want
from
me
really
I
mean
truly
really
I
know
y'all
make
more
than
I
do,
but
no
no.
This
is
silly.
I
can
pay
it
this
year,
but
what
about
next
year
with
inflation
get
a
grip?
Thank
you.
U
U
And
because
of
that,
whatever
you
try
or
attempt
to
do
is
going
to
be
very,
very
difficult,
whether
it's
rebates
or
whatever
the
paperwork,
the
expense.
The
time
is
going
to
be
almost
as
high
as
the
benefits
that
the
taxpayers
will
receive.
Number
two
all
of
us
are
real
estate
was
reassessed.
This
year
same
thing
is
going
to
happen.
The
values
will
be
extremely
high,
but
even
now
those
values
are
receding
because
of
the
increased
cost
to
borrow
money.
U
So
we'll
find
ourselves
if
you
follow
this
same
track,
we'll
find
ourselves
in
the
same
situation
next
year
at
this
time
and
we'll
all
be
gathered
together,
scratching
our
heads
as
to
what
to
do
so,
I
warn
you
it's
coming
and
it'll
be
a
difficult
challenge.
I
I
I
pray
that
you're
up
to
it.
Number
three
I
became
aware-
and
it's
already
been
mentioned-
that
your
software
program
for
handling
the
receipts
of
taxpayers
funds
is
not
adequate
to
the
task.
U
Like
the
other
person
that
mentioned
this,
I
paid
my
real
estate
taxes
in
November,
and
it
was
the
end
of
December
before
it
actually
cleared
the
bank
and
when
I
asked
why
they
said
we're
having
big
problems
with
our
software,
our
new
software
program,
it's
just
not
working
well
so
I-
assume
that
you're
aware
of
that,
but
I
certainly
am
aware
of
it.
Thank
you.
V
V
V
If
you
look
at
you
mentioned
in
your
flyer
here,
these
this
increase,
you
already
knew
it
was
going
to
be.
A
big
increase,
was
based
on
the
pandemic,
microchip
shortage
and
supply
line
shortage,
like
one
of
my
predecessors,
said
before
me.
The
pandemic
has
ended.
The
microchip
shortage
and
spy
line
shortage
is
ending.
It's
come
straight
down
like
this.
So
early
on
these
values,
Spike
up
like
this
and
you're,
using
these
assessments
based
on
this
and
they're
down
here
now
so
you're.
Basing
these
figures
on
data
that's
outdated,
already
and
I
gave
her
example.
V
I
know
I'm
I've
been
in
business,
Private,
Business
myself
and
my
brother
for
decades,
and
we
owned
a
dealership
at
one
point
in
time.
So
I
contacted
one
of
the
dealers
here
in
Roanoke
and
they
go
by
the
Kelly
Blue
black
blue
book
in
Mannheim
online,
so
they
pulled
they
plugged.
V
In
my
fears
on
my
truck-
and
there
was
about
anywhere
from
six
to
ten
thousand
difference
on
all
my
vehicles-
and
that's
that's
a
pretty
big
increase
that
you're
taxed
on
so
my
question
is,
first
of
all,
the
timing
of
all
this
is
horrendous,
because
here
we're
faced
with
everyone
trying
to
find
find
income
for
food
and
gas
and
now
they're
being
hit
with
this,
and
this
is
this-
is
at
a
time
where,
when
these
figures
have
gone
from
here
down
to
here,
so
it's
already
outdated.
So
they
need
to
be
changed.
V
I
also
contacted
all
the
surrounding
counties
and
I've
I've
reached
out
to
some
of
the
board
members
here
and
they're,
aware
of
the
surrounding
counties,
have
given
tax
relief
and
I.
Don't
know
why,
based
on
early
on
when
you
knew
you
were
going
to
have
Surplus,
because
it
was
mentioned
in
the
Lynchburg
times
that
the
personal
property
revenues
were
I,
think
about
eight
eight
million
there's
eight
million
dollar
increase
so
that
that
was
in
April.
So
you
knew
you're
going
to
have
a
pretty
big
Surplus.
V
R
V
Compassion
for
the
residents
of
Bedford
County.
Thank
you.
So
all
right
is
my
time
up.
Is
that
what
you're
saying
oh
I'm?
Sorry,
but
anyway
and
like
the
Pres,
my
predecessor
said
before
me.
My
the
assessor
came
by
my
house
for
the
real
estate.
He
said
you're
going
to
be
shocked
when
the
bills
come
out
in
the
first
year.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
J
W
That's
why
I
was
too
Ross.
I
live
at
1612
Oakwood
Street
here
in
the
City
of
Bedford,
across
from
the
hospital
on
my
insert
that
I
got
just
like
everybody
else
they
took.
They
said
that
it
was
going
to
be
based
on
JD
Powers.
It
said
I
didn't,
say
exactly
fair
market
value.
W
It
says
trade-in
value,
so
I
looked
it
up
currently
and
I
know
you're
bound
by
the
state
to
take
the
January
1st
figures,
but
we've
had
almost
eight
percent
inflation
this
summer,
and
yet
the
figures
that
are
now
are
24
564
to
27
228.
We
have
a
2019
Chrysler,
Pacifica
van
you
all.
Have
it
assessed
that
29
950
up
eight
thousand
dollars
from
last
year,
which,
as
a
former
math
teacher,
it
is
38.12
Mr,
has
said
35
percent
he
felt
was
the
average
so
I'm.
W
X
Ready
to
go
I'm,
Jessica,
Scott,
113,
Dove,
Valley,
Drive,
good
view,
I,
actually
recently
just
bought
a
home
here.
A
year
ago,
this
month,
I
was
looking
forward
to
the
lower
cost
of
living
quiet
lifestyle.
Well,
that
was
real
nice.
When
I
opened
up
my
bill
yesterday,
I'll
say
this:
taxation
is
stepped
and
some
of
y'all
can
sit
up
there
with
a
smile
on
your
face.
I'm,
a
single
mother
I
work
six,
sometimes
seven
days
a
week.
How
am
I
going
to
provide
Christmas?
X
How
am
I
going
to
travel
to
see
family
out
of
state
when
I
got
a
700
bill?
I
work,
two
jobs
I've
been
working,
two
jobs
for
the
past
10
years,
I
I
tell
you
what
you
need
to
do.
You
need
to
go
back.
You
need
to
revisit.
You
need
to
send
out
a
letter
to
all
of
us
saying
we
ain't
got
to
pay
nothing
at
Christmas
time,
revisit
this
and
send
out
a
reasonable
bill.
I,
don't
believe
in
personal
property.
Tax
y'all
can't
even
tell
us
where
the
money
goes.
X
B
B
Jacks
Reese
Jackson
up
next.
O
Can
you
hear
me
now
yeah,
all
right,
I
say:
I'm
Tony
Clayton
I
live
at
4276,
Big
Island,
Highway,
Bedford
Virginia,
one
thing
I
will
say
when
you
was
talking
earlier,
but
you're
trying
to
keep
revenue
down
and
everything
you
do.
You
keep
the
tax
rate
down
and
when
your
new
assessments
come
out,
you
do
try
to
get
them
leveled
out
now,
I
know
the
previous
board.
We
had.
We
had
a
couple
on
there
that
was
trying
to
raise
the
rate.
Of
course,
y'all
overcome
that
I.
Do
commend
you
on
that.
O
O
You
know
people
rely
on
this
technology,
all
the
time
and
obviously
they're
saying
already
saying
that
they're
having
a
problem
with
the
program
well
they've
had
problems
with
this
computer
system
that
the
county
has
had
for
how
many
years
ever
since
they
bought
it,
ain't
had
nothing
but
problems
with
it
and
I
sure
hope
that
manufacturers
that
made
it
they
sold
it
to
us
is
not
charging
us
every
time
they
keep
coming
up
here,
trying
to
get
it
fixed
over
three
or
four
or
five
years.
O
If
they
are
and
we're
paying
it,
somebody
lost
their
mind.
Okay,
we
need
to
start
holding
these
people
accountable
for
this
stuff,
but
now
this
system
that
they
put
in
place
for
this
personal
property
tax
if
it
was
not
proper
or
did
not
work
correctly
or
anything,
you
couldn't
make
adjustments
to
it.
We
shouldn't
have
bought
it.
We
shouldn't
have
bought
the
program
shouldn't
you
be
using
the
program.
O
But
when
the
bill
come
out
in
the
mail
and
that
little
yellow
piece
of
paper
that
was
in
there,
it
should
have
never
been
in
there
to
start
with,
because
that
didn't
even
make
it
worse.
But
that
put
the
blame
solely
on
the
Board
of
Supervisors
from
what
everybody
in
Bedford
County
seen,
even
though
it's
all
the
blames
not
on
the
supervisor.
This
is
a
joint
thing
right.
Here
we
got
administrator.
We
got
a
common
a
commissioner.
We
got
a
treasurer.
O
Everybody
needs
to
get
on
the
same
page
here.
I
just
feel
like
it's
a
major
problem,
and
here
again
they're
talking
about
real
estate
taxes.
O
I
know,
y'all
can
adjust
the
rate,
keep
your
rate
down
and
adjust
it
try
to
keep
it
level
and
equal
when
that
does
come
out,
but
seriously.
If
you
do
use
the
rates
or
the
assessments
or
the
values
of
homes
over
the
last
two
years
because
of
the
pandemic,
it's
going
to
be
terrible
and
you
you
ain't
gonna,
have
a
building
big
enough
to
get
everybody
in.
O
Y
Y
Y
Z
Peter
Commando
1053,
Pottery,
Lane,
Bedford,
County,
wife
and
I
just
moved
here
from
one
of
the
most
oppressive
States
for
taxation,
New
Jersey,
just
in
this
last
year,
and
we
have
been
trying
to
come
down
to
Virginia
for
so
long
to
escape
it.
We
felt
that
we
were
like
communist
Chinese
crossing
the
border
to
look
for
some
some
sense
of
freedom
and
we've
been
oppressed
for
so
many
years,
living
property
taxes
all
different
things,
but
coming
down
to
Virginia,
we
thought
it
would
be
relief.
Z
Z
I
was
I,
felt,
insulted,
I
felt,
oppressed,
I
was
walking
around
for
three
days
and
a
days
going,
I
have
to
give
a
thousand
dollar
almost
a
thousand
dollars
more
for
these
cars
that
I'm
already
paying
high
fuel
costs
and
title
and
registration
and
property
taxes
like.
When
does
it
end?
When
does
the
the
oppression
end?
It's
you
know,
I'm,
like
what
the
woman
said.
Z
Their
taxation
is
theft,
I
am
of
a
voluntarist
where
I
believe
that
everything
needs
to
be
done
through
a
volunteer
basis
that
you
just
can't
charge
people
willy-nilly
what
you
ex,
what
you
want,
but
that
they're
that
they
have
to
agree
to
things
and
and
that's
a
firm
principle
that
I
hold,
and
this
violated
that
principle
to
have
this
tax.
This
tax
here,
I
felt
like
under
I,
was
under
duress.
I
felt
like
duress
this
this
past
summer.
Z
In
the
90
degree,
heat
I
was
working
splitting
firewood,
sweating
myself
crazy
to
earn
just
a
few
more
dollars
just
to
get
by
In,
This
inflationary
process
and
then
all
of
a
sudden,
it's
the
exact
amount
of
money
that
you
want
to
take
from
me.
I
earned
a
thousand
dollars
this
summer
working
hours
and
hours
and
hours,
and
now
I'm
going
to
give
this
money
back
to
a
car
that
I
already
own
or
a
few
cars
that
I
already
have
paid
taxes
on
this
is
on.
This
is
egregious.
Z
This
is
egregious
and
I'm
embarrassed
to
be
to
to
be
in
this
situation.
I
feel
like
you
need
to
the
personal
property
tax
is
terrible.
It
is
a.
It
is
a
it's
it's
an
attack
on
our
freedoms.
It's
like
we'll,
never
own,
our
property.
When
do
we
own
our
property?
When
do
we
own
our
our
private
property?
Our
real
estate?
Are
we
just
renters?
Are
we
just
gonna
rent
for
the
rest
of
our
life?
Z
Ask
you
that
this
I
I
could
concede
that
this
tax,
that
you
need
this
tax
for
some
reason,
you
know
I
believe
that
if
you
want
to
decrease
something
decrease
government,
don't
add
more
taxes
to
us,
find
a
way
to
decrease
the
government
and
give
back
the
money
to
the
people
we're
in
an
inflationary
spiral.
Right
now,
this
country
is
on
the
brink
of
Economics
collapse
and
we're
in
a
bubble.
Z
That's
about
to
break
and
everybody
is
scrapping
for
money
and
if
they
and
this
money
is
precious
to
people
right
now
to
buy
food
and
the
Very
necessities
of
life,
don't
take
this
money
from
us.
We
need
this
money.
This
country
is
going
down
the
drain
and
we
need
this
so
I.
Ask
you
please
reconsider
this,
don't
steal
the
money
from
the
people
anymore.
B
AA
Spence
2966
Timber,
Ridge
Road
got
very
little
to
say
just
a
couple
of
observations:
more
more
tried
to
figure
out
I
like
everybody
else,
but
I
got
a
bill.
The
first
thing,
I'd
be
and
I've
been
pretty
avid
of
a
user
of
NADA.
My
entire
life
I
just
kind
of
keep
track
of
what
my
cars
is
worth
and
I'm
like
no
way,
and
so
one
one
vehicle
is
one
vehicle
that
already
sold
my
brother-in-law,
who
knows
cars.
He
says:
hey.
AA
AA
So
I
have
noticed
as
well
when
you,
when
you
sent
the
note
out,
you
said
it's
going
to
be
NADA,
slash,
JD,
Powers,
I've,
never
used
JD
Powers
everything
I've
looked
at
from
their
aspect
is
always
off
from
my
perspective
that
NADA
has
always
been
a
very
trustworthy
source.
So
I
feel,
like
there's,
been
a
mistake
here
made
and
it's
a
one
of
those
things
that
just
we
all
got
caught
in.
You
know
if
even
today,
I
had
to
write
JD,
Powers
and
I've
been
trying
all
week.
AA
Since
you
sent
me
the
note
trying
to
trying
to
find
the
true
value
of
my
truck
and
they
don't
even
list
it.
When
I
go
through
the
steps
and
I
and
I
wrote
J.D
powers,
they
got
an
email,
you're,
welcome
to
see
it
where
they
wrote
me
back.
So
we
got
a
problem.
You
know,
I
think
you
guys
got
caught
in
a
problem.
There's
a
transition
there
that
happened
as
well
somebody
on
staff.
AA
It
was
their
job
to
catch
that
problem
and
tell
you
that
problem
before
you
got
in
this
situation,
you
got
caught
in
a
problem,
and
so
it's
all
wrong.
The
information
you're
you're
using
to
look
at
these
cars
is
everybody
said
it's
all
wrong
and
it's
going
to
be
a
continue
to
be
a
problem
because
NADA
is
no
longer
in
Ada,
so
I
think
it's
another
thing.
That's
going
on
that!
AA
You
may
want
to
look
in
the
future,
how
you're,
assessing
these
vehicles
and
making
sure
you're
getting
the
proper
assessment
from
The
Firm
you're
using
because
that
has
changed
on
you
now
so
I
think
it's
part
of
the
problem.
I
I
hope
it
was
accidental
and
unintentional,
but
it
you
got
a
bad
situation
there.
So
thank
you.
G
My
name
is
Marvin
Hicks
I
live
at
5816,
Falling,
Creek,
Road
I
believe
the
problem
is
that
we've
taken
the
humid
Human
Side
out
of
all
this
stuff.
We
do
all
this
decisions,
we
make
it
this.
This
tax
affected
everybody
here,
everybody,
including
you
folks,
up
here.
Most
of
us
who
are
on
fixed
income.
We
have
to
choose
now.
G
You
know
I
I,
really
think
we
need
to
put
a
little
personal
person
of
ourselves
in
this
when
we
make
a
decision
to
to
pick
these
cars
prices,
I
think
we
need
to
think
about
who
we
use
and
think
about.
What's
going
on
in
the
economy,
what's
happening
all
around
us,
because
we
obviously
aren't
thinking
about.
What's
going
on
around
us
when
inflation
is
eight
point,
whatever.
G
AB
AB
Previous
speakers
have
already
talked
about
inflation.
High
gas
prices,
everything
so
I'm,
not
going
to
repeat
that
my
wife
and
I
are
on
Social
Security,
we're
hoping
for
an
eight
percent
increase
according
to
Congress
next
year.
Okay,
our
taxes
for
our
vehicles
went
up,
147
percent,
so
something's
wrong.
One
vehicle
is
wrecked.
One
vehicle
is
high
mileage.
AB
You
know
you
need
to
have
somebody
look
at
this.
Everybody
in
this
county
is
hurting.
It's
not
that
easy
out
there
I've
worked
with
County
commissions
before
before
I
retired
I
know
a
little
bit
about
how
it
works.
Your
software
program
is
broken.
AB
If
whoever
is
doing
this,
for
you
can't
adjust
the
vehicles
from
a
hundred
percent
to
60
percent
by
pushing
a
couple
buttons,
you
need
to
hire
someone
else.
I
appreciate
your
help.
I
would
like
to
see
some
common
sense
put
into
this
program
and
thank
you
all
very
much.
AC
AC
AC
B
B
I
will
say
at
least
I
want
to
reassure
people.
We
all
realize
that
the
real
estate
assessments
are
going
to
be
ridiculously
high,
especially
with
interest
rates
going
up
and
values
going
down,
but
we're
all
going
to
be
assessed
in
the
same
period
it'll
be
across
the
board
and
this
board
historically,
because
we,
unlike
the
personal
property
where
we
didn't
have
the
number
when
we
were
adopting
a
rate
when
it
comes
to
real
estate,
we
will
have
the
number
before
we
adopt
the
rate.
B
So
we
will
know
what
that
equalized
rate
would
be
to
keep
the
same
revenue
from
one
year
to
the
next
and
that's
what
we
historically
do
in
Bedford
County.
So
just
keep
that
in
mind.
Now
I
have
heard
from
some
delegates
that
they're
talking
about
adjusting
some
taxes
and
and
taking
away
some
revenue
for
the
county
and
trying
to
place
that
burden
on
us
on
the
real
estate
tax
I've
tried
to
fight
against
them.
B
Doing
that
because
we
like
to
equalize
our
rate,
but
anyway
the
it'll
be
a
different
situation,
because
we'll
have
the
the
actual
numbers
we
can
do
the
calculations
and
then
make
the
adjustment
on
the
rate
so
so
that
that
hopefully
will
alleviate
that
problem.
But
obviously
we
have
a
big
problem
that
we're
trying
to
address
tonight.
You
know
I
I
want
to
thank
the
board
members
that
called
for
this
meeting
I'm
glad
we
went
ahead
and
did
it
as
a
separate
meeting,
but
let's
go
ahead
and
have
some
discussion
again
this
up.
B
B
B
F
B
I
B
E
B
And
and
and
I
don't
disagree
there
and
that's
and
that's
where
we
had
attempted
to
do
some
type
of
adjustment.
The
problem
is,
we
didn't
know
what
those
actual
numbers
were
I
mean,
in
fact,
if,
if
you
were
paying
attention
on
the
slide,
the
Board
of
Supervisors
or
at
the
administration,
which
then
he
conveys
it
to
us,
he
got
those
numbers
on
November
1st.
This
is
November
3rd,
so
we
were
all
outraged
just
as
much
as
you
were.
B
We
didn't
have
the
numbers
now
we
should
have
pushed
to
get
the
numbers,
but
we
didn't
have
them,
but
we're
trying
to
address
where
we
are
today,
but
anyway
go
ahead.
I
mean
we,
we
don't
have
options
to
just
eliminate
the
tax.
We
don't
have
options
to
use
last
year's
number
and
we
didn't
have
what
the
actual
numbers
were
going
to
be
in
until
late
in
the
year.
B
Well
after
we
had
adopted
a
rate,
so
if
we,
if
we
had
gone
with
the
percentage,
we
would
have
probably
hedged
our
bets
and
gone
with
something
like
80
percent
of
full
value,
but
that
wouldn't
have
even
been
enough
based
on
the
ridiculous
assessments
that
came
out
so
80
wouldn't
have
even
been
enough.
So
now
we
can
hopefully
give
a
better
solution
than
what
would
have
done.
We
would
have
done
in
the
spring.
B
R
AD
T
E
AE
B
P
So
you
all
know
what
the
revenue
was
for
the
last
five
years:
yes
or
no.
Yes,
okay,
for
each
of
those
years,
take
the
difference
between
each
of
those
years,
you're
gonna
and
then
the
calculated
average
or
a
percentage
of
what
that
difference
is
and
then
over
those
five
years,
you're
going
to
get
what
four
four
percentages,
because
you're
going
to
take
a
difference
between
Fifth
and
fourth
year,
fourth
and
third
year,
third
and
second
year,
and
then
these
two
years,
once
you
get
the
average
that
that
percent
use,
that
percent
against
last
year's
Revenue.
P
AD
That
is,
that
is
something
that
we
look
at.
When
we
speak
to
you
all.
Typically,
we
will
try
to
say
on
average.
This
is
the
increases
that
we
see
and
I
would
have
to
double
check
the
numbers,
but
I
think
right
off.
Typically,
we
see
about
four
to
five
percent
in
an
average
year
and
to
keep
in
mind,
you
know,
increases
while
they
are
vastly
driven
by
assessed
values
this
year.
E
AD
E
B
And,
and
that
would
that
would
be
an
percentage
of
full
value
in
future
years.
Well,.
AD
AD
New
purchases
I
mean
it
that
has
been
our
Trend
I
would
say
for
an
extended
period
of
time.
With
the
exception
of
the
current
year,
we
typically
see
four
to
five
percent,
and
so
in
his
example
for
23.
Let's
for
this
budget
cycle
that
we're
in
I
believe
what
he
is
saying
is
we
would
look
at
21
collections,
increase
that
by
four
or
five
percent,
and
then
that
would
have
been
the
targeted
revenue
for
the
existing
Year,
and
that
is
actually
what
our
budget
is
built
is
very
close
to
that
and.
B
B
So
I
I
agree
with
you,
that's
what
we
can
do
in
future
years,
but
we
also
have
to
figure
out
what
we're
going
to
do
about
this
year.
So.
F
AD
Now,
if
you
look
at
actual
collections
for
2023
2021
excuse
me
get
my
years
confused
here,
I
believe
and
I
would
have
to
go
back
and
double
check.
I
believe
our
23
budget
is
approximately
four
to
five
percent
above
those
collections.
AD
Now,
if
you
compare
budget
year
to
budget
year,
you
will
see
a
bigger
difference.
That
is
because
of
the
fact
that
the
values
are
not
available.
So
we
typically
our
budget,
is
about
a
year
lagged
or
so
each
year,
we're
typically
playing
catch-up
in
our
budget
projection
for
prior
based
off
the
prior
yearbook.
Excuse
me,
values.
B
The
only
the
only
one
that
that
I,
see
is
being
able
to
potentially
do
is
option,
one
which
is
and
and
I
have
no
interest
in
in
given
a
discount
to
somebody's
plane
right
that
they
didn't
even
they
didn't
even
get
an
increase
on
their
plane.
The
the
increases
are
all
related
to
to
Vehicles
I'm
I'm,
reasonably
confident
that
that's
where
the
board
would
be,
and
that's
where
the
the
discount
should
be,
can.
B
B
Well,
they
they
went
up
a.
They
went
up,
nine!
That's
still.
If
we
were
discounting
them
33,
that's
that's
still
a
pretty
significant
discount
on
boats
when
most
people
that
have
a
boat,
I
guess
they're,
not
quite
struggling
like
the
people
with
all
the
cars
well,
I
mean
I
I'm,
just
I'm,
just
looking
at.
If
we're
going
to
end
up
having
to
reduce
the
discount
percentage.
E
Well,
I
understand
that
it's
going
to
bring
that
percentage
down
appointed
to
but
I
think
we're
not
I,
don't
think
we're
being
fair
to
our
citizens
that
that
that
have
money
invested
in
boats
that
are
paying
personal
properties
on
taxes,
taxes
on
boats
and
they've
been
increased
nine
percent
and
every
in
the
car
they're
getting
relief
on
the
cars
I.
Don't.
B
E
Not
sympathetic
to
the
airplane
owners,
I'm,
sorry,
if
you,
if
you
have
one
but
I,
don't
I
don't
have
a
boat
either,
but
but
I
know
there
are
a
lot
of
people
do
have
boats
and
I'm.
F
K
Mr
chair,
yes,
I,
was
shocked.
I
pay,
a
lot
of
taxes.
K
K
K
You
know
we're
growing
the
government
taken
from
people.
You
know
we
don't
have
any
money.
Where
do
we
get
our
money
from
we
take
it
from
them
and
I
don't
care
whether
you're,
rich
or
poor?
If
the
government's
taking
more
money
from
you
than
you
should
be,
then
they
should
be
you're
getting
screwed
and-
and
you
need.
K
K
Not
let
this
happen
again
stay
on
top
of
it
even
more
active
in
it
and
I
agree
with
what
Mr
Claytor
said.
If
I
hear
one
more
thing
about
that
computer
system,
I
think
I'm,
just
gonna
pull
all
my
hair
out.
We
bought
that
thing
five
years
ago
for
1.8
million
dollars,
no
telling
how
many
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars
we've
spent
on
it
trying
to
get
it
running,
and
it's
still
not
running
every
time.
Something
happens
around
here.
Munis
did
it
munis?
Did
it
well
get
QuickBooks
at
least.
K
It's
it's
got
to
be
a
way
to
do
this
stuff,
and
you
know
everything
we
do
on
the
government
just
seems
like
it.
Just
gets,
kicked
down,
the
road
kicked
down
the
road
and
you
know,
and
meanwhile
a
lot
of
these
people
say
I,
it's
struggling
by
the
groceries,
pay,
the
gas
and
and
fixed
incomes
and
I.
Even
had
people
call
me
and
say
when
the
gas
goes
up
and-
and
these
things
happen,
I
have
to
pick
and
choose
what
drug
I'm
going
to
order,
because
I
can't
pay
for
my
drugs.
K
K
I
made
a
private
individuals
and
companies
have
gone
out
of
business
and
been
laid
out.
Hundreds
of
thousands
government,
no,
not
the
government.
We
need
the
government,
but,
like
again,
I,
don't
know
the
formula,
but
we
need
to
come
up
with
informal.
We
need
to
give
them
their
eight
million
dollars
back
and
we
need
to
give
them
time
to
pay
it.
If
we
need
to
freeze
whatever
we
need
to
freeze,
they
need
time
to
pay
it
and
we
need
to
get
it
done.
Quick.
A
D
I
have
a
question
for
Miss
Snow.
If
we
were
considering
an
extension
date
on
our
dude
on
our
from
December
5th,
what
would
your
office
be
willing
to
work
with
us
on?
AF
Work
with
what
I
think
Mr
Hess
mentioned
a
January
date.
You
know
after
Christmas
give
everybody
a
month
or
so
after
Christmas,
so
we
we
can
work
with.
AE
Mr
chair,
yes,
I'm
I'm
in
full
agreement
with
Mr
Scott,
but
I
think
he
one
thing
I'd
like
to
add
to
his
comments:
is
that
and
Mr
clayder
what
he
said
about?
There's
a
breakdown
in
communication
I,
don't
recall
ever
being
advised
that
that
we
needed
to
to
re
look
at
the
the
rate
and-
and
so
we've
taken
a
lot
of
heat
for
that
and
each
one
of
us
up
here
on
this
board
has
has
a
job
like
most
of
you
out
here.
AE
Do
and-
and
we
rely
on
information
given
to
us
from
the
county
to
make
decisions,
and
it
has
to
be
accurate
and
I,
don't
recall
getting
that
information
and,
as
you
pointed
it
out,
Mr
hiss
pointed
it
out
in
the
course
of
his
presentation,
but
that
that
doesn't
change
where
we
are
today.
However,
it's
it's
really
really
disgusting
to
me
that
we
have
to
be
here
at
this
point
tonight,
for
this
mistake
and
and
so
to
to
write.
This
mistake
is
what
we've
got
to
do
and
I
certainly
agree
with
Mr
Scott.
AE
It
needs
to
be
done
quickly.
I
I
called
Terry,
Austin,
Saturday
and
I
was
asking
him
about
how
we
can
resolve
this
issue
put
the
horse
back
in
the
barn,
and
it's
not
an
easy
thing
to
do,
as,
as
he
told
me
as
I
understand
it,
Richmond
gets
their
fair
share
or
their
share
right
of
the
of
the
taxes
and,
and
so
we
have
to
pay
that
bill
right
and
to
them
and
and
ma'am.
Do
you
mind
if
I
speak
so
anyway?
AE
Whatever
we
do
here,
we've
got
to
resolve
this
issue
and
I'm
I'm,
certainly
in
favor
of
returning
that
that
eight
million
dollars-
and
the
thing
that
really
troubles
me
is-
is
the
the
expense
that
everybody's
got
to
pay
it
twice
on
on
this.
This
refund,
you
know
the
the
cost
of
refunding
or
rebating
whatever
it
is.
We
want
to
call
it
is,
is
a
is
a
needless
expense
on
this
County,
but
we've
made
this
mistake
in
in
when
I
make
a
mistake
in
business.
AE
If
I,
don't
repeat
it,
I
look
at
it
as
education
and
because,
if
I
learn
from
it,
it's
education,
if
I
don't
learn
from
it,
it's
just
a
failure.
So
I
hope
that
we
can
look
at
this
and
get
it
straight
and
and
move
forward
from
it
and
and
and
and
one
other
thing
I
would
like
to
point
out
is
none
of
us
up
here
on
this
board
and
and
I
know,
you
all
agree
is
responsible
for
the
the
problems
that
this
country
is
in
right
now
we
we
face
those
problems
in
every
single.
AE
One
of
us
loves
our
country
and
is
just
as
much
a
patriot
as
the
strongest
Patriot
out
there
in
this
room,
and
sometimes
we're
not
permitted
to
say
what's
on
our
minds,
but
I
I
would
like
to
thank
you
all
for
coming
out
here
and
I'm
sorry
that
y'all
had
to
do
this,
but
I
also
see
some
good
coming
of
it,
and
I
would
like
to
suggest
one
other
thing
I'd
like
to
see
that
we
end
my
personal
feeling
is
in
personal
property
tax
I,
don't
think
we
can
offset
it
with
sales.
AE
Tax
I
think
it'll
be
a
mistaked,
offset
it
with
sales
tax
because
you're
going
to
drive
people
away
from
Bedford
County
to
buy
that
want
to
buy
things.
As
an
example
of
that
I
thought
it
was
wrong
to
increase
the
taxes
on
cigarettes
which
we
did
not
do,
because
we
felt
like
people
as
a
small
example.
People
would
come
here
from
other
areas,
maybe
buy
cigarettes
and
and
spend
other
monies
in
Bedford
County
anyway.
Thanks.
AE
E
E
R
E
Made
them
do
this
exercise
and
I.
Don't
know
whether
I
like
option
one
or
three
I
like
option
one
for
those
that
have
paid,
because
but
I
don't
know
how
you're
going
to
rebate
somebody
that
hadn't
paid.
Yet
you
got
to
wait
for
them
to
pay
and
then
you're
gonna
rebate
them.
That's
just
gonna
drag
it
out
even
longer.
Is
it
possible?
Do
we
have
a
way
to
stop
the
payments?
E
AD
Week,
that's
a
good
idea.
Okay,
we
have
already
met
internally
as
a
staff
to
figure
out
how
we
could
accomplish
this
in
the
system.
As
we
said,
we've
not
had
to
do
this
before.
So
it
is
a
learning
curve.
We've
got
to
figure
out
how
to
do
it,
but
I
do
I,
don't
think
that
it's
impossible
to
do,
but
one
of
the
things
that
we
have
talked
about
is
that
very
same
question
is
well.
What
do
we
do?
AD
We
could,
because
we
do
have
some
people
that
have
paid
or
that
will
pay
before
we're
able
to
get
a
solution
in
place.
So
how
do
we
handle
that?
And
we
are
exploring
the
ability
to
put
a
credit
on
the
account
for
people
who
have
not
paid
so
that
they
would
know
at
the
time
that
they
did
come
to
pay
or
if
they
mailed
a
check
in,
and
it
would
generate
an
overpayment
on
the
account.
AD
E
Thank
you
is:
is
there
a
way
that,
starting
tomorrow
morning,
when
the
cage
opens
down
there,
that
anybody
that
comes
up
there,
that
you
don't
take
100
assessment
from
anyone
that
you
I
mean
we
know
that
we're
gonna
give
them
33
back
back?
Why
would
we
take
it
now?
If
we
know
we're
gonna
give
it
back.
AD
AF
We
actually
have
to
take
whatever
is
on
the
system
right
now,
I
mean
if,
if
we
want
it
to
be
100
paid,
they
have
to
pay
what's
on
the
bill.
But
if
we
get
the
credit
applied,
if
they
haven't
paid,
then
they'll
only
pay
the
decreased
amount.
If
they
have
paid
there
would
be
refunds
done
somewhere
in
the
future.
AD
I
think
that
will
depend
on
the
testing.
I
I
know
that
we
have
the
plan
in
place
so,
depending
on
the
direction
here
tonight,
I
think
we
were
ready
to
go
full
steam
ahead
into
figuring
out
how
to
implement
whatever
directive
you
give
us
but
I.
Unfortunately,
I,
don't
I
can't
put
a
time
frame
on
it.
I
would
think
that
we
will
work
as
quickly
as
possible
to
make
it
happen.
Well,.
B
You
you
have
you're,
not
giving
me
a
schedule,
but
if
you
could
come
up
with
a
solution
and
get
a
credit
applied
within
a
week
or
two,
then
as
we
as
we
start
to
receive
any
additional
payments,
it
immediately.
Everything
would
kick
in
and
if
somebody
comes
to
the
window,
they'd
be
paying
the
lesser
amount
correct
and
then,
if,
if
they
mailed
in
a
check-
and
they
didn't
they're-
probably
not
going
to
know
what
that
credit
is,
they
would
then
automatically
have
a
refund
issued.
B
AF
C
I
mean
I'll,
let
Kim
and
Kim,
and
Julie
Kim
and
Tracy
chime
in
on
this
too,
but
I
mean
to
me
I
mean
to
me
you're
doing
almost
triple
work.
If
you
do
that,
though,
because
you
got
to
rebate
the
people
who
have
already
paid
you've
got
to
generate
bills
and
you
gotta
pay
for
all
these
bills
that
go
out
you
gotta,
you
may
have
people
paying
off
of
the
old
bill,
and
so
how
do
you?
How
do
you
handle
that
I
mean?
F
AF
AF
F
I'm
just
trying
to
make
it
easier
for
you,
I
mean
now
you've
got
to
do
these
rebates,
wouldn't
it
be
better
instead
of
having
to
do
all
these
rebates
to
just
stop
taking
it
now
and
then
fix
it
and
put
all
the
credits
on
give
you
a
week
to
do
all
the
credits
and
then
when
people
go
to
pay,
they
are
paying
the
right
amount
and
you
don't
have
to
go
back
and
do
the
rebates.
What.
L
E
AG
Yeah
I
really
have
I,
don't
know
what
to
say.
It
is
I
haven't
heard
anyone
really
present
a
workable
solution.
I
I
have
no
idea
how
to
fix
this.
E
AG
Then
yeah
I,
honestly,
don't
I'm
sitting
here
and
I'm
trying
to
I
agree
with
everything
everyone
said.
I
was
just
shocked
when
I
opened
my
bill
as
everyone
else.
How
in
the
world
is
a
chip
shortage
affect
my
six-year-old
vehicle
sitting
in
my
driveway.
It
is
beyond
me,
so
I
totally
agree
with
everything
everyone
said,
but
I
do
not
know
how
to
fix.
AG
B
AE
It
realistic
that
we
can
actually
come
up
with
a
solution
right
here
this
evening,
because
in
my
experience
trying
to
force
this
quick
solution
usually
ends
up
making
things
worse
than
making
things
better.
But
the
one
thing
I've
been
telling
folks
and
I
hope
I
don't
get
in
trouble
for
saying
this.
Somebody
say:
don't
pay
your
taxes,
yet
I
mean
they're.
Not
due
till
December
I
mean.
AE
F
B
C
AG
A
C
I
I
mean
I'm
thinking
out
loud
here,
there's
kind
of
two
options
with
that
I
mean
number
one
is
whoever
whoever
has
already
paid
and
whoever
continues
to
pay.
Vmao
I,
don't
know
how
many
thousands
of
bills
are
waiting
in
the
mail
system
that
are
going
to
arrive
and
Kim's
office
over
the
next
few
days.
C
You
know
we
we
issue
rebates
for
that
33
percent.
As
as
we're
able
to
issue
them,
they
won't
be
the
next
day,
but
you.
C
Him
anyways,
we
issue
rebates
as
quickly
as
we
can
on
the
people
who
pay
I
mean
you
can
also,
but
this
isn't
a
good
idea
necessarily,
but
I
mean
you
could
wait
to
the
end
of
the
Doom
period
and
then
issue
rebates,
but
I,
don't
think
that's
what
people
want
to
do.
We
want
to
issue
them
as
live
as,
possibly
we
can
I
think
the
thing
that
Mr
Davis's
Point.
C
What
we
don't
have
quite
totally
figured
out
in
in
the
system
and
with
with
just
a
variety
of
logistics,
is
how
do
we
apply
that
credit
in
a
in
a
live
format?
So
we
we
just
need
a
little
bit
more
time
to
figure
that
out
and
with
us
going
to
the
to
January
31st.
That
gives
us
a
little
bit
more
of
a
leeway
to
do
that.
E
E
We
need
to
come
up
with
a
solution.
That's
going
to
get
get
the
money
out,
as
people
have
already
paid
now
now
the
ones
that
haven't
paid
that's
a
different
issue,
but
the
ones
that
are
in
the
mail
now
and
the
ones
that
we.
W
AE
AE
And
and
one
other
thing
that
I
think
this
has
already
been
suggested
and
maybe
said
it
wasn't
a
good
idea,
but
I'm
going
to
say
it
again.
Is
it
possible
or
feasible
within
reason
to
look
at
the
cost
of
a
sending
out
a
new
bill?
The
way
it
should
have
been
versus
rebates
and
adjustments?
Is
that
possible
from
a
economic
standpoint
I
mean
is:
is
that
is
that
going
to
be
the
more
cost
effective
way
to
to
get
rid
of
this
frog
that
we
have
to
eat.
AD
Based
off
of
the
mailing
bill
and
I
can't
remember,
the
exact
dollar
amount.
I
would
say
that
issuing
new
bills
is
probably
not
the
most
cost
effective
way
to
go
about
this.
E
AE
E
B
Know
within
a
week
or
or
so
and
we've
extended
the
the
payment
deadline
than
anyone
else,
paying
going
forward
would
would
pay
the
lesser
amount
and
then,
as
soon
as
we
adopt
a
rebate
rate
right,
the
people
who
haven't
paid
would
get
the
credit
applied
so
that
before
they
pay
and
the
people
who
have
already
paid
will
already
know
what
that
is,
we'll
know
who
who's
paid
and
we
can
start
issuing
checks.
It
seems
to
me
that's
going
to
be
the
most
timely
solution.
B
If
we,
if
we
start
all
over
again,
it
seems
to
me
we're
just
going
to
drag
this.
This
situation
out
further,
especially
for
those
people
who've
already
paid
well.
F
B
AF
C
C
I
think
could
be
easier
just
for
us
to
cash
it
into
the
rebate.
We
do
again
twice
as
much
work
to
then
return
it
and
then
get
it
I'm
trying
to
avoid
us
doing
twice
as
much
work,
I
guess.
If,
if
we're
trying
to
do
it
quickly,
everybody
wants
to
do
it
quickly.
But
if
we're
going
to
do
two
to
three
times
as
much
work,
then
we
can't
do
it
quickly.
C
I
mean
that
that
would
be
I
mean
I,
hear
some
people
I
mean
whatever
whatever
and
we've
talked
about.
This
I
mean
whatever
direction:
we're
going
we're
going
to
have
a
public
information
campaign
news
you
know
and
everything
we
can
possibly
do
in
order
to
spread
the
word
about
what
the
decision
is
and
how
how
this
will
be
handled
and
all
that
type
of
stuff.
So,
okay,.
K
AE
D
Experiment
for
me,
we
talked
about
which
categories
I'm
absolutely
in
favor
of
the
rebate,
not
a
problem
with
that
it
would
be
nice.
E
G
D
To
that
mix,
what
that
looks
like
I
would
agree
that
the
other
categories
were
a
normal
assessment.
These
one,
two,
three
four
five
categories
were
not
I.
K
D
K
A
D
I
I
would
like
to
see
those
numbers,
but
just.
D
AD
I
I
would
say
if
you
wanted
to
consider
boats
kind
of
two
things
about
that,
if
you
factor
them
in
with
the
others,
and
that
is
going
to
reduce
the
average
percentage
which
is
ultimately
going
to
reduce
the
rebate
that
you
would
give
to
those
with
the
highest
value
increases.
So
that's
kind
of
one
issue
with
kind
of
including
them
together.
The
other
side
of
that
is
I
think
to
an
earlier
Point
somebody
made.
AD
Let's
say
that
once
we
Factor
those
in
it
decreases
that
rebate
to
32
percent,
well
you're,
giving
a
32
percent
rebate
to
somebody
who
probably
only
had
about
a
nine
percent
increase
so
you're,
actually
not
just
making
them
whole
you're,
making
them
better
in
comparison
to
those
in
those
higher
value
categories.
So
I
would
say.
If
you
do
want
to
consider
the
boats,
then
we
probably
need
to
look
at
it
being
a
different.
Well.
AD
E
I'm
not
suggesting
giving
a
nine
percent
increase
of
32
credit
to
give
the
nine
percent
increase
three
percent
credit
make
it
relative
to
the
33.
F
B
B
I'd
like
us
to,
if
we
can
figure
out
the
percentage
tonight,
then
staff
can
immediately
get
started
on
figuring
out
how
to
issue
credits,
and
so
I.
Don't
want
to
drag
this
out
where
we
can't
get
that
going.
You
know
we're.
Let's
come
up
with
the
solution.
The
staff
then
has
their
marching
orders
and
they
they
know
what
they
got
to
do.
35.
A
F
AD
35
was
the
average
increase
in
values,
but
when
we
look
at
the
projected
billing
Surplus,
it's
33
is
that
percentage
of
the
bill
that
would
be
rebated.
C
B
E
A
AD
C
B
C
B
AG
AD
AE
Gotcha,
at
the
risk
of
being
very
unpopular
here
tonight,
I
I
mean
I.
I
can
sympathize
with
the
folks
that
own
boats,
but
my
personal
feeling
is,
is
it
it
kind
of
over
complicates
what's
already
a
very
bad
situation
and
I
would
ask
forgiveness
from
the
the
boat
and
Rental
boat
people
in
this
one
situation
and
promised
to
never
make
this
boo-boo
again
in
just
to
help
defray
some
of
the
high
costs
that
this
is
already
gonna,
be
born
by
the
county.
AE
I
mean
you
know,
like
I
said.
If
you
want
to
look
at
heavy
construction
equipment,
five
percent
may
not
seem
like
much
to
a
lot
of
folks
out
here,
but
yet
there's
other
folks
that
that
are
involved
in
construction
and
farming
and
understand
what
fuel
does
and
tires
and
everything
else
that's
associated
with
this
and
the
high
cost
of
fertilizer.
And
so
you
know
we
what
about
them,
but
again
what
I'm,
saying
and
I
happen
to
have
heavy
construction
equipment
and
I
farm,
but
I'm
willing
to
say
let
that
slide.
B
That
yeah,
because
I'd
like
to
come
up
with
a
solution
and
if
we,
if
we,
if
we
drag
it
out,
then
we
don't
have
a
solution.
You
can't
start
applying
credits,
so
if
we
do
it
do
the
33
percent,
we
can
come
to
a
consensus
on
that
and
we
can
start
applying
a
credit
quickly.
We
can
extend
the
deadline
so
that
no
one
feels
like
oh
I
only
have
this
small
window
to
pay
my
bill.
B
It
gives
staff
time
to
get
this
in
place.
They
can
pay
their
bill
at
a
and
have
a
larger
window
to
pay
that
and
theoretically,
it's
going
to
make
it.
So
we
have
fewer
refund
checks
to
have
to
issue
and
those
people
who've
already
paid.
As
soon
as
we've
got
a
number,
we
can
start
processing
some
refunds
as
well,
so
it
sounds
like
I
mean
as
far
as
the
the
most
timely
solution.
B
D
D
F
AG
F
Why
would
this
make
a
motion
that
we
rebate,
we
issue
a
rebates
or
bring
the
down
on
the
bills
when
they
go
to
pay
the
33
percent,
which
is
the
difference
between
what
they
were
billed
in
2021
and
2022.?
That's
that
7
million
871
000.,
so
that
33,
so
we
just
go
ahead
and
bring
it
down
at
33
percent.
F
F
AG
AG
F
B
K
K
I
think
I,
don't
like
what
we're
doing
I
mean
I
like
what
we're
doing
giving
the
people
their
money
back,
but
I
hate
to
see
all
these
other
people
that
will
sacrificing,
because
we
weren't
alerted
in
time
to
do
something
about
it
a
long
time
ago.
Now
people
knew
about
this,
otherwise
they
wouldn't
have
put
on
this
yellow
piece
of
paper
or
supervisors.
K
K
K
And
all
them
they
get
screwed
because
we
weren't
alerted,
like
I,
said
a
little
while
ago,
I'm
for
fair
taxes
for
everybody,
everybody
pays
their
fair
share,
I,
don't
care
if
you're,
rich
poor
or
what
you
pay
your
fair
share.
So
we're
telling
these
other
people
to
both
people
and
the
equipment,
people
and
everything.
We're
gonna
have
to
put
you
on
a
shelf
and
sacrifice
you,
because
we
screwed
up
but
I'm
a
vocal
yes
for
it
simply
because
nobody
can
come
up
with
a
better
solution.
AE
C
Z
C
AD
We
could
go
ahead
and
start
testing
on
this
and
getting
this
into
play,
because
that
would
be
a
separate
I
would
think
a
separate
rate
anyway.
So
it
would
I
mean
we
would
have
to
process
it,
but.
B
F
B
B
E
B
B
E
B
AE
Got
a
2005
truck
that
went
from
380
dollars
tax
to
600..
Now,
if
I
had
a
boat
and
it
went
up
10
we're
talking
about
if
it
was
300,
330
dollars
again,
I
I,
don't
wanna,
I'm
I!
Think
everybody
here,
who's
ever
known
me
know
that
I'm,
very
conservative
and
I'm
opposed
and
I
voted
against
the
board.
On
occasions,
when
I
felt,
like
money
was
being
taxpayer,
money
was
being
wasted.
AE
Frivolously
so
I
I
mean
again
throw
me
under
the
bus
for
saying
that,
but
I'm
I'm
speaking
honestly,
it's
it's
one
thing
for
for
my
taxes
on
my
2005
pickup
to
go
up
almost
50
percent,
but
for
a
boat
to
go
up,
30
bucks
or
50
bucks
on
a
year,
I.
Don't
think
anybody's
going
to
be
terribly
upset
about
this
and
it's
it's
a
terrible
cost
on
this
County
right
now.
What
we're
having
to
do
and
I
think
it's
a
waste
of
time.
Pardon
me
no
offense
attendant
to
keep
beating
this
boat
thing.
AE
D
H
AG
E
AG
AG
AH
Like
I
said,
they're
they're
reassessed
with
the
reassessment
they're
assessed
as
reassessment
every
four
years,
so
you
know
unless
they
buy.
You
know.
C
B
B
B
You
know,
and,
and
obviously
some
states
do
it
a
different
way
so,
but
those
States
probably
have
a
higher
sales
tax
or
whatever
the
case
might
be,
but
we
certainly
can't
do
it
until
something's
done
in
Richmond.
This
board
can't
address
that.
So
what
we
can
try
to
do
is
the
the
taxes
that
were
required
by
law
to
do
try
to
keep
them
at
a
minimum
and
that's
what
we
try
to
do
any
other.
Any
other
decisions
to
be
made
tonight.