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B
A
A
Thanks
for
coming
marvel
I'll,
give
you
three
minutes
to
sleep,
you'll
hear
about
two
and
a
half
minutes
and.
B
Just
so
you
know
that
I'll
be
stopping
you
after
that,
if
you'd
like
to
start.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
I'd
like
to
thank
you.
Can
you
hear
me?
Okay,
yep,
sorry
about
that
I'd
like
to
thank
you
all
for
this
opportunity
to
present
in
person,
because
I
know
it's
difficult
at.
A
B
Moment
I'll
cover
the
flood
impact
that
this
subdivision
will
have
when
you're
joining
properties.
The
concerns
I
have
related
to
traffic
around
the
subdivision
and
the
safety
of
people
on
the
ground
relationship
to
the
airport
flight
path.
B
First
item
flooding,
the
intent
of
the
land
subject
to
inundation
overlaying
classification
is
to
ensure
that
any
development
does
not
create
flooding
to
adjacent
properties.
The
golden
golden
broken
management
from
broken
catchment
management
authority,
stipulates
a
condition
that
requires
no
increasing
flood
velocity
or
flood
levels
to
adjoining
properties
due
to
works
associated
with
the
proposed
subpoenagem.
B
It
is
expected
that
modelling
be
carried
out
by
a
certainly
qualified
consultant
to
demonstrate.
No
third
party
is
impacted.
This
statement
is
consistent
with
the
intended
classification
harriet.
My
quest
first
question
is:
has
this
been
done?
If
so,
where
is
it?
If
not,
why
not,
and
why
would
council,
do
you
bring
into
creating
a
permit
without
one
as
the
golden
broken
management?
Catchment
management
authority
again
stipulates
the
height
of
the
entire
subdivision?
B
B
Traffic
issuing
funneling
of
all
traffic
via
local
banksia
roads
into
wood
street
is
concerning,
as
as
they
are
small
and
inadequate,
and
both
across
the
drain,
which,
in
time
of
flood,
will
be
inaccessible
and
effectively
locking
locking
properties
up.
This
is
a
safety
issue,
and
consideration
must
be
given
to
provide
alternative
access
to
the
subdivision
via
sydney,
road.
B
You,
as
stated
in
my
objection,
there
seems
to
be
a
couple
of
existing
options
between
the
vanilla,
windscreens
and
truck
whisperer
properties.
I'm
sorry
on
sydney
road.
It
could
be
used
as
alternative
entry
exit
points.
The
battery
shape
to
these
blocks
suggest
that
they
are
designed
to
be
access
roads
leading
into
the
subdivision.
B
If
this
is
not
possible,
then
my
state
on
page
22,
20
of
the
the
agenda
by
directing
vehicle
movements
towards
wood
street,
the
majority
of
the
traffic,
will
then
get
south
towards
bridge
street
bridge
street
east
to
the
roundabout
controlled
intersections.
This
is
a
preferred
direct.
This
is
preferred
to
directly
traffic
to
an
uncontrolled
different
city
road.
B
There
are
existing
such
uncontrolled
intersections
of
various
points
along
sydney
road.
This
should
be
part
of
an
overall
planning
by
council
and
not
by
the
applicant.
Additionally,
there
has
been
no
mention
of
my
suggestion,
calling
the
roundabouts
on
wood
street
to
manage
the
traffic
flow
and
that
would
induce
that
was
choked
once
in
the
existing
sector.
To
this
existing
width.
B
Excuse
me,
the
subdivision
will
be
directly
beneath
the
airport.
Northern
flight
path.
Noise
from
the
plane
was
highlighted
in
my
submission
were
dismissed
in
the,
but
the
dangers
associated
with
the
potential
plane
glider
accident
is
also
a
concern,
as
was
the
case
in
the
recent
planning
injection
for
an
invite
nearby
subdivision.
B
B
B
B
But
every
two
or
three
years
we
will
get
heavy
rain
like
we
have
today
that
will
break
the
banks
of
that
drain
and
comes
into
our
properties
and
that
that's
existing.
So
that's
drainage,
that's
not
funny
yeah!
The
problem
still
exists
in
both
and
I've
made
representation
council
on
a
couple
of
previous
occasions
many
years
ago
asking
for
the
grain
to
be
increased
in
size.
B
B
I
would
like
to
see
a
permanent
access.
I
think
an
alternative
exit
entry
point
into
the
subdivision
of
the
idea
within
the
subdivision,
rather
than
following
everybody
out
over
the
drain,
which
at
times
might
be
a
problem
because
of
the
flooding
and
heavy
rain.
B
C
Come
I'm
really
just
here
to
answer
any
questions
if
anyone
has
any,
but
thank
you
for
your
crazy
good
sense
and
funny
concerns,
but
I
think
probably
kyle
oxley
who's
our
the
best
person
to
respond
to
that,
rather
from
a
planning
point
of
view,
because.
A
C
Seen
the
storm
order,
management
strategy
and
design
that
we've
sort
of
started,
so,
if
anyone's
got
any
questions
for
me,.
C
B
Thank
you
for
being
here
to
answer
questions
for
a
start.
With
regards
to
the
whole
subdivision,
it's
staged
in
60.
B
B
Are
there
any
other
questions?
Counselor
davis
apologistic,
the
first
one
that
works
on
the
on
the
site
would
be.
C
B
B
B
Where
do
you
expect
to
catch
the
water
in
this
basin
here?
Yes,
so
the
general
philosophy
is
for
the
whole
subdivision
to
drain
it
all
back
to
the
to
that
basin
or
combination
of
basins
in
the
lower
end
of
the
site,
which
is
to
the
north
and
then
to
pump
that
back
into
the
main
drain
at
a
rate
that
is
actually
less
than
what
it's
currently
discharging
at
present.
So
the
general
underlying
strategy
with
the
drainage
is
to
to
certainly
not
exacerbate
the
current
situation
out
there.
B
It
will
actually
be
when
the
subdivision
is
fully
built
out.
It'll
actually
contribute
less
than
what
it
does
now
so.
B
B
So
we
need
to
get
underground
drainage
from
the
top
of
the
site
all
the
way
down
to
this
end
of
the
site
and
that
just
based
on
the
distance
and
minimum
grades,
as
the
council's
infrastructure
design
manual,
will
probably
I'll
estimate
the
base
and
depth
into
two
and
a
half
from
two
and
up
to
three
and
a
half
meters
in
terms
of
the
water
level
that
will
the
basin
will
fill
up
to
a
maximum
of
300
ml
freeboard
in
the
basement.
Again,
that's
in
accordance
with
council's
infrastructure,
just
one
manual
so.
B
We
will
to
accord
with
the
infrastructure
design
manual,
there's
a
requirement
to
have
enough
storage
in
the
basin
for
it
to
fill
up
and
take
the
floats
from
the
site
for
24
hours.
B
A
single
one
yep,
so
if
that
great
standing,
what
happens
then?
Well
that's
got
this
24-hour
requirement
where
it
comes
from
in
the
ibm
to
give
council
so
it'll
be
24
hours
before
the
basin
will
ever
be
at
risk
of
breaching
okay.
So
what
happens
when
it
breaks
down
back
on
council?
A
B
We
had
a
situation
already
across
town
which,
where
that
happened,
and
so
to
relax
with
them,
extend
thrown
back
on
council,
which
really
is
your
issue,
not
mine,
yeah,
well,
ordinarily,
any
pump
station
of
that
side
would
be
a
council
asset.
It
would
be
gifted
to
council
through
the
development
process,
but
one
thing
I
could
say
we
certainly
wouldn't
be
out
of
the
realms
of
contemplation
development
of
this
side
would
be
to
put
a
diesel
generator
onto
it
as
a
backup
supplier.
B
Possibly,
so
is
that
cheaper?
We
just
in
this
point.
B
I
couldn't
see
why
not
now
my
concern
is
the
fact
that
we've
already
had
that
issue
and
then
we
as
a
council
are
picking
that
up
right.
Okay,
so
we're
not
beneficiaries
of
this
supposition,
but
it's
something
the
owners
are,
so
you
know
in
turn,
they're
throwing
the
responsibility
back
on
us
if
something
goes
wrong.
B
So
not
knowing
any
details
about
that
pump
station
speaker,
but
certainly
in
more
recent
years,
this
yeah
council's
infrastructure
design
manual
there's
quite
strict
requirements
that
things
like
having
24
hours,
storage,
to
give
time
to
do
something
about
pump
failure
or
power
or
boundaries,
or
something
like
that.
B
B
B
To
the
the
retention
basins
and
the
drainage,
so
the
entire
subdivision's
drainage
all
goes
into
the
retention.
There's
none,
that's
correct!
There's
no
other
outlets
going
into
the
main
drain.
No,
no!
It's
all
controlled
through
that
rising
main
output
from
the
pump
station,
which
at
the
moment
we've
suggested
100
liters
a
second
which
is
well
below
the
pre-development
rate
that
it
currently
did,
and
possibly
the
now
I
want
staff
can
fill
me
in
on
this
one.
B
So
you
may
not
know,
but
the
actual
volumes
that
you're
talking
about
when
the
24-hour
period
is
at
24
hours
of
six
inches
of
rain
or
24
hours
of
it's
24
hours
of
rain
during
the
one
percent
or
the
100
year
storm.
B
Yes,
yes,
they'll,
be
linked,
they'll,
be
linked
in
so
far
as
the
one
and
drains
the
smaller
ones.
When
you
run
through
the
bigger
one
into
the
pump
station.
B
And
just
one
five:
will
these
basins
be
fenced
that'll
be
a
product
of
a
detailed
design?
Certainly
the
infrastructure
design
manual
talks
about
doing
a
risk
assessment,
and
the
outcome
of
that
risk
assessment
would
then
determine
incomes,
consultation
with
councils,
engineers
and
planners
and
where
the
latch
ought
to
be
fenced.
B
Thank
you,
the
public
philosophy
and
the
flood
levels
and
all
that
work
that
has
to
become
yes.
B
When
would
that
be
done?
So
I've
been
looking
at
the
drought
conditions
in
the
agenda.
I
believe
that
would
be
conditioned
in
the
permit
so
prior
to
the
development
of
dementia.
B
In
all
reality,
I
would
imagine
it
would
be
during
the
detailed
design,
probably
early
on
in
the
detailed
design,
so
that
would
go
in
with
the
that
one
going
into
planning
when
it's
going
to
be
done
in
advance,
not
part
of
the
works
started.
E
E
E
E
A
Thank
you,
john.
Are
there
any
questions?
Council
alexander?
Thank
you,
madam
chair
joel.
You
would
have
heard
all
the
discussion
around
the
flooding
and
one
of
the
conditions
of
the
of
the
permit
is
that
it's
expected
that
modelling
will
be
carried
out
by
a
suitably
qualified
consultant
to
demonstrate.
No
third
party
impacts.
A
It
is
expected.
Is
it
mandatory.
B
A
B
I
mentioned
before
fencing:
is
it
a
requirement
of
council
to
have
that
fence
if
it's
likely
to
hold
two
or
three
metres
of
water.
E
Not
necessarily,
it
really
depends
on
the
depth.
I
no
less
might
know
a
bit
more
about
that
aspect.
D
Thank
you,
madam
chair
three
minute
chair.
There
will
be
a
risk
assessment,
it's
part
of
the
infrastructure
design
manual,
to
carry
out
a
risk
assessment
and
then,
if
required,
then
it
has
to
be
fenced.
B
B
My
second
question
is
on
that
we've
got
some
300
square
meter
blocks
to
make
to
make
money
with
an
old-fashioned
builder's
voice
on
three
three
hours,
ten
meters.
So
what's
the
views?
Why
are
we
going
down
to
that
small
block
size
so.
E
Out
of
the
168
blocks
we've
got
about,
20
of
them
will
be
between
300
and
500
square
meters.
Most
of
those
lots
are
provided
on
corner
sides,
which
is
where
you
get
double
fronted
blocks
so
base
place.
Lots
will
get
fronted
good
frontage
access
to
the
street,
and
that
is
where
those
smaller
blocks
are
encouraged
to
to
provide
for
dwellings
that
can
easily
be
designed
to
front
onto
streets.
B
You
know
just
as
a
pilot
question
for
that
joel,
I'm
not
dwelling
on
it.
If
you
go
near
thomas
street,
there's
a
block
on
the
corner.
Nearly
three
quarters
way
down.
Thomas
street-
that's
got
small
dwelling
on
it
and
it
doesn't
look
very
pretty
it's
on
the
corner.
I
don't
know
how
far
down
thomas
street
it
is,
I
can't
remember
now,
but
down
towards
the
end
of
thomas
street.
You
might
be
here
there's
a
little
house
on
the
corner
there
and
in
a
new
submission
like
we're
putting
in
here.
B
If
we've
got,
if
we've
got
these
little
little
spikes
on
the
corners
of
the
subdivision,
it's
not
going
to
look
very
pretty.
E
Means
that
the
design
of
the
dwelling
is
compromised,
it
could
be
enough.
You
can
have
a
nice
small
block
or
dwelling
with
one
or
two
bedrooms
that
is
presents
well
to
the
shredders
nice
brick
dwelling
that
has
a
nice
front
edge
to
the.
B
A
E
I
don't
think
it
is
new,
it's
just
something
that's
becoming
increasingly
more
prominent
in
vanilla
because
of
the
increased
housing
demand.
That
was
that's
coming
in
due
to
the
additional
jobs
that
are
coming
into
the
town.
B
E
B
Yeah
good
evening,
alicia
joel,
can
you
hear
me
okay,.
E
B
My
questions
are
with
regards
to
the
my
concern
that
the
24-hour
period
of
rainfall,
that
the
retention
bases
are
designed
to
hold.
B
B
If
we
were
to
do
stage
one
and
stage
two
and
then
see
the
quantities
of
the
volumes
that
are
flowing
into
those
retention
bases
and
seeing
how,
because
with
the
design,
they
have
to
be
retention,
the
water
retention
there
and
then
pumped
by
one
single
pump
into
our
main
drain.
B
D
The
infrastructure
design
manual
requires
two
pumps,
so
a
duty
pump
and
a
standby
pump,
so
the
pumping
station
will
have
and
the
the
the
design
has
to
make
a
way
for
a
generator
to
be
fitted
in
as
well
and
the
telemetry
as
well.
So
there
needs
to
be
lights
and
all
that
sort
of
stuff
that
is
within
council's
control
to
to
see
and
then
repair
so
there's
there
will
be
a
standby
pump
and
there'll
be
a
duty
pump.
B
Thank
you.
I
would
like
to
ask
a
question
I'd
like
to
know.
If
you
could
tell
me
please
what
sort
of.
E
They
will
have
a
road
reserve
width
of
20
meters,
which
is
something
that
you'd
see
in
let's
say
cowan
street,
which
is
which
is
a
20
meters
in
width
and
will
also
allow
for
indented
parking
off
off
the
side
that
that
sort
of
weight
sort
of
straight.
B
And
the
improvements
over
the
drain.
B
Thank
you
and
another
question
I
have:
is
the
open
space
in
stage
six,
that
space?
Isn't
it
down
down
the
bottom,
the
seven.
A
E
Not
it's
possible
that
there's
there's
other
ways
also
to
seek
connection
through.
It
could
be
through
the
through
the
north
of.
E
Block
95
lot
95
through
to
the
north
of
the
site,
but
through
to
the
south.
But
really
it's
not
a
requirement
from
the
independent
traffic
engineer
that
that
needs
to
happen.
B
Yes,
thank
you.
Are
there
any
other
questions?
Council
davis.
Thank
you,
john.
Just
a
quote
to
clarify
the
total
capacity
and
size
of
the
retention
base
and
needed
weight
be
staged
with
the
stage
of
the
subdivision.
It
will
be
built
to
the
capacity
required
from
day
one.
E
That
hasn't
been
put
forward
to
us.
Look
if
it's
the
requirement
of
stage
if
the
basins
are
in
stage
one,
we
would
like
them
to
be
constructed
fully
constructed
to
comply.
B
B
Certainly,
we
have
to
address
the
water
issues
and
I
think
now
this
has
put
council
on
notice
that,
in
the
big
picture
we
have
to
put
in
our
council
plan
moving
forward
that
we
we
look
at
drone
and
shallow
council.
First,
the
cancellation,
the
first
going
on
for
a
while
that
we
have
to
seriously
moving
forward
what
we're
going
to
do
with
banana
drainage
seriously.
Thank
you.
Would
anyone
else
like
to.
B
D
D
D
28
building
permits
were
issued
within
the
municipality
councils
built
in
the
department
issued
19
of
those
28
permits,
and
the
value
of
those
constructions
were
approximately
four
point:
one
three
million
dollars,
there's
in
addition
to
the
recommendation
on
a
fee
building
fee
that
was
omitted
from
a
fees
and
charges
and
is
informs
part
of
this
recommendation
and
the
recommendation
is
this
report
be
noted
as
well
happy
for
any
questions.