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From YouTube: 2 June 2021 | Finance and Operations Committee meeting
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See the below link to access the Agenda and Minutes for this meeting.
https://www.benalla.vic.gov.au/Your-Council/Our-Council/Council-Documents/Agendas-Minutes/2021
A
Thank
you
and
good
evening
councillors
and
welcome
to
this
finance
and
operations
committee
meeting
for
the
2nd
of
july
2021.
A
A
Governance
matters
this
community
meeting
is
conducted
in
accordance
with
the
local
government
act.
2020
and
the
vanilla
will
see
council
of
governments
rules
2020.
in
accordance
with
the
government's
rules.
2024
6.4
meetings
of
council
will
be
audio
recorded
and
made
available
for
public
access.
A
Councillors
are
reminded
of
their
behavior
at
the
council
meeting
and
discloses
a
conflict
of
interest
in
accordance
with
the
local
government
act.
2020
a
councillor
must
declare
any
conflict
of
interest
to
section
130
of
the
act
on
any
items
in
this
agenda.
Marine
council's
mission
to
declare
a
conflict
and
I'll
just
remind
counsellors
that
masks
are
to
be
worn
through
the
meeting
but
can
be
removed
if
they
wish
to
expect
item
business,
0.1
question
times
and
public
submissions
on
any.
B
C
Us,
yes,
I
can
hear
you
now.
Thank
you,
david.
A
Just
before
you
begin
I'll,
just
give
you
a
heads
up
that
you'll
have
three
minutes
to
speak
to
the
to
the
submission
provided.
C
Thanks,
mr
chairman,
I
trust
I'll
be
able
to
get
through
what
I
need
to
say
in
three
minutes,
but
can
I
just
say
at
the
start,
if
I
do
drop
out
before
then
that's
not
because
I
don't
want
to
be
here.
My
computer
is
playing
up
and
my
it
guru,
the
town's
rit
guru,
isn't
here
until
tomorrow
to
fix
it.
So
with
that
in
mind,
I'll
get
straight
into
my
submission.
I
know
that
you've
read
it,
I'm
just
going
to
focus
on
two
of
the
key
issues
that
I
wanted
to
highlight
tonight.
C
The
first
point
that
I
want
to
make
is
about
the
form
and
comprehensibility
of
the
document,
and
I
understand
the
need
for
the
structure
of
the
document.
It
is
a
dense
document
necessarily
so.
Unfortunately,
that
means
that
pretty
well
every
person
with
which
I've
discussed
the
document.
The
budget
has
had
great
difficulty
in
reading
through
it,
and
it's
my
submission
that
it
would
greatly
improve
the
readability
and
the
therefore
the
understanding
of
the
community
and
what
council
is
doing
if
a
summary,
page
or
pages
if
necessary,
was
added
to
it.
C
C
The
second
point,
I'd
like
to
emphasize
is
that
I'm
very
concerned
about
some
key
capital
expenditure
items,
and
those
are
principal
concern
to
me
and
every
person
that
I've
spoken
to,
I
have
to
say,
is
the
two
light
items
dealing
with
the
visitor
information
center
redevelopment
and
the
art
gallery.
C
I
don't
find
anywhere
in
the
current
council
plan
or
the
community
vision,
or
indeed
any
current
strategy
that
I'll
be
corrected
on
that
point,
a
reference
to
either
those
two
projects,
so,
from
my
perspective,
to
include
those
projects
as
major
items
in
this
current
budget
is
a
significant
shortcoming
of
the
budget,
and
my
proposal
is
that,
in
the
light
of
significant
community
acts,
I'm
sure
I'm
not
the
only
person
who's
made.
These
comments
that
the
budget
should
be
reviewed.
I
believe
that
there
are
plenty
of
opportunities
for
manila
council
to
find
alternate
company
projects.
C
Whilst
reviewing
these
two
proposals,
if
they
stack
up
and
if
after
community
consultation
there
is
support,
then
fine-
let's
add
them
to
a
future
budget,
but
without
the
community
engagement
community
knowledge
about
these
projects
what
they
entail.
I
believe
it's
inappropriate
and
in
fact
it's
not
good
governance
for
those
to
be
included
in
the
budget.
C
I
think
there
there
are
opportunities
to
refine
the
information
that
you
already
have
available
in
that
budget,
to
make
it
a
little
easier
to
see
where
banila
sits
at
the
present
time,
and
I
finally
make
a
comment
about
user
costs,
should
I
say
fees
for
council
facilities,
you
may
be
able
to
tell
me
reassure
me
that
some
modeling
work
has
been
done
to
ensure
that
those
fees
represent
a
reasonable
balance
between
cost
recovery
and
actual
utilization
of
council
or
community
and
facilities
by
the
council.
C
The
other
comment
in
respect
to
that
that
I
make
is
that
I
notice
there's
a
significant
reduction
in
female
staff
members
in
the
council.
I
have
found
out
since
the
submission
the
root
cause
of
that
I'm
not
sure
that
I've
seen
anything
advised
in
community
of
that.
I
do
understand
the
role
of
the
ceo
and
his
responsibilities
in
relation
to
staffing
and
structure,
but
a
significant
change
like
that,
which
seems
to
dwarf
the
loss
of
jobs
in
target,
for
example,
is
something
that
is
worth
noting.
C
A
E
Thank
you
for
your
submission.
Taking
the
time.
That's
you
know
obviously,
you've
gone
through
everything,
I'm
just
wondering
as
the
extensions
and
changes
to
the
gallery
and
not
actually
being
funded
by
council,
but
by
state
government.
Do
you
think
this
would
make
a
difference
to
the
opinion
of
the
people
that
you
know
in
the
community
that
you're
saying
are
against
development
at
the
garage.
C
I
think,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
there's
still
a
council
project
in
this
work
on
a
council
building
in
the
council's
jurisdiction.
The
funding
source,
I
think,
is
a
secondary
issue
and
if
that's
a
constraint,
I
suggest
some
good
negotiations
with
the
state
government
would
be
in
order.
C
I
still
believe
fervently
that
it
needs
consultation
with
the
community
to
ensure
everyone
understands
what's
being
proposed
and
understands
the
priority
that's
being
put
on
it
by
council.
I
see
no
losses
in
engaging
in
an
appropriate
community
consultation
in
accordance
with
the
council's
own
policy
and
strategies
and
at
the
end
of
the
day,
I
think
it
overcomes
some
of
the
issues
that
may
have
stemmed
in
the
past,
from
perceived
lack
of
communication
between
council
and
the
community.
G
Thank
you
chair.
Firstly,
thank
you
david
for
that
submission
and
the
detailed
submission
with
the
summary
and
very
comprehensive
look
into
the
budget
really
well,
I
think
you
highlighted
some
areas
in
the
budget.
We
might
have
to
look
at
again
and
see
whether
there
is
so.
Is
that
the
way
that's
presented?
G
My
question
is
about
the
visitor
information
center
and
you
recommended
to
suspend
that
project
pending
further
the
community
consultation
and
you
suggested
to
shower
very
project,
sealing
the
banana
lake
working
track
and
obtain
a
consistent
standard
along
this
much
user-friendly
use
of
as
used
facility
compared
to
the
present
circumstances
and
the
midterm
decline.
G
I
know
you're
also
a
part
of
the
community
plan
implementation
committee,
and
you
mentioned
that
you
spoke
to
people
and
they
opposed
the
other
developments.
Did
you
have
any
buying
for
something
like
this?
Did
you
have
any
people
agreeing
for
something
like
that.
C
Yes,
certainly-
and
I
think
more
broadly-
the
lake
is
an
absolute
icon
and
a
gem
in
vanilla's
crown,
if
you
like,
I
think
a
boardwalk
around
the
lake
or
the
existing
walking
path
around
the
lake
is
a
very
significantly
utilized
facility
by
the
community
and
certainly
people
that
I
speak
to
regularly
talk
about
how
wonderful
it
is
that
we
have
it
even
in
covert
and
the
worst
of
the
restrictions
last
year
and
this
year
again
it's
being
utilized
by
people
and
they
are
generally
socially
distancing
and
putting
on
masks
but
without
fail.
C
The
concern
that
people
have
is
the
inconsistency
in
standard,
and
it
seems
to
me
that
that
is
a
project
that
would
significantly
enhance
the
lakeside
environment,
respond
to
the
needs
of
people
who
are
out
there
already
enjoying
walking,
but
not
much
in
winter
when
it
gets
extremely
boggy
and
slippery,
particularly
around
the
tennis
courts,
but
elsewhere
as
well.
Half
of
it
is
sealed.
It
seems
to
me
that
we've
been
dragging
the
chain
for
too
long
and
not
finishing
the
job.
C
C
A
Courage
yeah.
Thank
you
david
for
that
submission.
You
speak
against
both
these
major
projects
at
the
gallery
and
the
vista
information
center.
Are
you
aware
that
the
visitor
information
center
was
a
a
project
that
sat
on
a
shovel
ready
project
set
on
the
council
plan
for
many
many
years,
and
the
gallery?
Development
has
also
sat
on
the
council
plan
for
many
years,
and
there
was
a
lot
of
community
engagement
in
the
last
10
or
so
years
of
our
birthday
projects.
C
C
I
don't
see
in
the
existing
art
gallery
strategy
and
surely
that's
the
document
that
guides
the
future
use
and
development
of
the
art
gallery
and
I'd
suggest
that
if
it
has
been
something
that
was
significantly
supported
a
decade
ago,
it
probably
just
needs
to
be
quickly
tested
again
with
the
community
against
other
potential
candidates
for
funding
I'll,
say
the
same
thing
about
the
information
center.
I'll
also
say
that
I'm
not
aware
of
anyone
who
is
aware
of
that.
C
Having
sat
on
a
council
strategy
or
planning
document
in
years
past
now,
maybe
it's
a
problem
with
communication.
Maybe
it
was
just
unfortunately
too
well
buried
in
those
documents,
I
can't
say
not
having
seen
it.
The
fact
of
the
matter
is
that
it
doesn't
exist
in
the
existing
council
plan,
the
current
council
plan
and
to
me
that
document
is
the
fundamental
document
that
should
be
guiding
budget
expenditure.
A
Any
further
questions
from
council
david-
we
appreciate
your
time
this
evening
and
we
appreciate
you
submitting
your
submission
to
the
council.
Thank
you.
H
H
Thank
you
very
much.
Can
you
hear
me
now.
H
A
H
Sorry
I
set
out
my
submission.
I
found
it
difficult
to
decide
for
the
82
pages
presented
and
request
that
a
short,
concise,
sympop
synopsis
of
the
papers
as
presented
would
result
in
more
communication
community
feedback.
I
found
it
difficult
or
an
accept
to
understand
exactly
what
the
true
spending
plan
is,
that
the
amount
of
money
delegated
to
each
operation
is
not
spelled
out
as
to
where
it
is
actually
to
be
spent.
It
is
vague
and
non-informative
to
the
reader.
H
While
climate
change
has
been
identified
as
the
most
important
issue
facing
the
next
generation,
there
is
no
set
fund
allocated
to
mitigation
of
this
problem.
What
legacy
are
we
leaving?
There
have
been
many
articles
on
the
movement
of
peoples
to
country
towns.
You
know
all
those
articles.
It
has
been
noted
that
people
are
moving
from
the
town
to
reside
in
a
different
environment.
H
A
A
Are
there
any
questions
from
council
yeah?
Council
again,
I
reckon
you
have
a
question
for
susan.
G
Thank
you,
susan.
Can
you
hear
me.
G
Okay,
I
have
a
question
and
firstly
thank
you
for
the
submission
and
thank
you
for
taking
time
to
read
that
document,
which
you
said
it's
hard
to
understand.
We
had
a
previous
speaker
as
well
objecting
to
the
development
proposed
at
the
visitor
center
and
the
lakeside,
and
you
also
object
in
your
submission.
I
can
see,
and
I
can
see
that
you're
a
landscape
architect
you
mentioned
about
the
flood
inundation
on
that
area.
What
do
you
reckon?
G
What
do
you
think
is
the
best
way
forward
for
a
development
like
that
for
that
area
to
develop.
H
Well,
I
think
from
start,
we
really
need
a
development
plan
for
the
whole
city
of
vanilla
done
by
a
registered
planner
with
a
landscape
architect,
of
course,
in
part
of
the
planning
and
a
whole
redevelopment
up
for
bernala
and
where
we're
going
with
new
subdivisions
they're.
The
particular
worry
that
I
have
the
subdivisions
are
not
thought
out
properly.
There's
no
landscaping
plan
the
tree
planting
in
vanilla,
which
I
originally
thought
when
they
bypassed
vanilla,
what
a
very
good
design
they
had,
and
I
was
very
optimistic
about
how
it
would
go
on.
H
But
there
hasn't
been
a
comprehensive
development
plan
done
since
then.
All
landscaping-
and
we
really
do-
need
more
trees,
more
shade
and
with
climate
change
coming,
and
this
is
most
important,
and
it
seems
to
me
that
the
council
are
not
really
concentrating
on
trying
to
make
a
beautiful
green
town
which
people
from
the
city
want
to.
G
I
A
You
for
your
time,
we
do
appreciate
your
submission
and
being
here
tonight.
Thank
you.
A
A
Right
welcome
and
thank
you
for
for
skyping
in.
F
Yes,
look
at
my
apologies
for
the
delay.
Yes,
we
get
there
eventually.
F
Thank
you
once
again
for
the
opportunity
to
make
your
submission.
A
Michael
sorry,
it
is
before
you
begin
I'll.
Just
let
you
know
that
you
have
three
minutes
for
your
presentation.
F
F
I
sort
of
understand
that
a
developer
undertaking
submissions
must
pay
levies
to
vanilla
rural
city
council,
so
I
asked
the
council:
have
they
development
contribution
plan
for
reporting
such
levees
and,
if
so,
where
is
it
listed
in
the
budget
papers?
F
The
other
matter
is
also
the
the
gliding
club.
I
note
that
there
are
gliders
parked
in
their
trailers
on
what
I
thought
was
the
proposed
aero
park
site
the
relocation
site,
but
are
they
charged
a
fee
and
if
they
are
also?
Where
is
that
located
within
the
the
budget
papers?
That
was
my
main
main
concern.
Do
you
have
my
submission
on
other
matters.
D
Thanks
for
your
submission,
michael
this
year,
is
it's
almost
heartwarming
to
have
as
many
submissions
from
the
public
as
we
have
this
year.
I've
sat
on
council
many
years
and
there
are
some
where
we
get
none,
so
I'm
very
happy
to
see
that
the
number
of
the
quality
that
has
been
given
to
us
this
year
but
to
the
point
is,
have
you
michael
leather,
asked
directly
about
the
the
glider
trailers
that
are
parked
at
the
back
of
the
euro
park?
F
Not
not
at
this
stage
council
of
earth
no.
D
Just
said,
no,
I
have
and
you'll
find
out
the
safety
when
I
was
told
no,
they
don't
get
charged
there.
So
I'm
glad
you
brought
it
to
the
to
the
budgets
point
of
view
with
regards
to
the
the
new
area.
D
Where
that's
supposed
to
go,
would
you
be
happy
to
see
whether
or
not
there
is
a
timeline
for
us
to
do
that.
F
Well,
my
understanding
councilor
first,
that
there
there
was
a
timeline
and
it's
possibly
expiring
in
12
or
18
months
time,
but
I
stand
to
be
corrected
on
that.
G
My
question
is
about
the
the
suggestion
you
make
about
community
engagement.
I
ask
this
question
because
you're
you're
also
a
member
of
the
community
plan
implementation
steering
committee.
You
were
also
a
member
of
the
initial
plan
formation
and
the
community
engagement
part
of
it.
So
you
suggested
us
to
go
for
a
condensed
version
and
a
readable
version,
and
there
were
two
speakers
who
said
the
same
thing
and
there
were
some
other
submissions
saying
the
same
thing.
G
F
Sorry,
I'm
just
I
miss
part
of
that.
The
ending
of
that
question
is
that
in
relation
to
the
one
page
document,
yes.
G
You
suggested
that,
but
looking
at
the
timelines
and
the
deadline
is
30th
june
to
meet
the
budget
adoption
with
that,
what
would
you
suggest
us
to
do
with
the
condensed
version
or
a
better
engagement.
F
Look
it
it's
now,
the
second
of
june
that
doesn't
give
us
a
lot
of
time
and
at
the
meeting
we're
at
today,
we
we
discovered
that
not
a
lot
of
people
are
reading
the
paper,
as
we
thought
social
media
seems
to
be
the
the
way
to
go
for
younger
ones.
It's
probably
something
for
the
future.
A
one-page
graphic
depiction
of
cost
might
be
better
absorbed
by
the
community
at
large,
but
I
think
we
probably
yeah
we
may
have
missed
the
miss
the
opportunity
for
this
this
cycle.
G
A
G
A
A
I
A
Now
we
can
hear
and
see
you
jane.
You
have
three
minutes
so
the
floor's
yours.
I
Thank
you,
hi.
Everyone
thanks
for
this
opportunity.
Look
it's
timely
to
be
having
this
conversation
with
you.
Considering
recent
changes
to
the
victorian
government
legislation
around
community
engagement
and
consultation,
the
2122
budget
accessing
a
copy
of
the
budget
and
providing
feedback
was
beyond
the
capacity
and
the
stamina
of
most
vanilla
residents.
I
We
are
continually
working
to
build
on
our
strengths
and
to
redress
the
spectrum
of
inequities
that
come
with
that
ses,
and
I
wonder
how
many
in
our
community
have
had
have
been
through
a
similar
budgeting
orientation
process
that
you've
been
able
to
benefit
from,
and
that
brings
me
to
a
kind
of
frustration.
I
Well,
an
actual
frustration:
why
did
anyone
think
that
this
budget
could
be
digested
by
a
representative
number
of
our
community
and
that
the
council
would
receive
a
useful
community
response
rate?
How
serious
are
we
when
we
ask
for
community
feedback
using
such
a
blunt
budget
consultation
plan
and
what
process
approved
the
budget
consultation
plan?
I
It's
not
enough
to
say
our
vanilla
people
had
the
opportunity,
but
they
gave
little
feedback
not
when
we
know
the
profile
of
our
community.
It's
not
the
fault
of
our
community.
It's
a
flaw
in
interpretation
and
planning
processes,
and
I
will
rest
on
this
matter
when
the
following
three
measurables
are
in
place.
I
I
E
Thank
you,
chair,
thanks,
jane
for
putting
your
submission
in
and
taking
time
to
make
so
much
comment.
That's
great!
I'm
just
wondering
the
in
the
item
number
two:
the
proposed
2021-22
budget.
Your
third
dot
point
recommendation
that
budget
information
sessions
be
held
across
the
rural
city.
That's,
I
think,
that's
a
great
idea,
but
I'm
just
wondering
how
you
think
that
could
be
implemented
to
engage
those
groups
of
people
that
you
were
talking
about.
I
I
That's
a
fine
example
of
a
community
engagement
and
consultation
plan
that
is
expansive,
creative
and
designed
to
engage
as
many
people
as
possible.
It's
not
foolproof
by
any
much
by
any
means,
but
it
is
up
there
with
a
reasonable
community
engagement
plan.
So
rather
than
me
offer
an
invent
the
wheel.
You
know
option,
there's
already
in-house
talent
to
look
at
and,
dare
I
say,
even.
E
Replicate
yeah
just
a
follow-up
question,
jane
so
you're
saying
really
at
the
moment
the
feeling
that
council
is
doing
an
okay
job
with
that
community
engagement
for
our
future
planning
and
vision
and
everything
for
the
community.
But
we
just
need
to
up
our
game
on
the
budget.
Explanation
to
the
community
about
the
budget
is
that
what
you're
saying.
I
Somewhat,
it's
pretty
close.
What
I'm!
What
I'm
actually
saying
is
that,
as
an
example
of
a
community
engagement
plan
that
I
consider
to
be
a
valid
plan,
the
work
that's
being
done
by
the
community
development
team
to
engage
the
community
in
giving
their
feedback
in
the
the
council
plan.
Sorry,
I
muddled
up
the
language
there,
which
so
frequently
happens
to
give
their
feedback
on
the
council
plan.
I
G
Firstly,
thanks
dana
for
taking
time
to
do
a
submission
and
also
taking
time
to
speak
today,
and
I
understand
you're
also
a
member
of
the
community
plan
implementation
steering
committee,
and
at
the
start
you
said
you
agree
with
some
other
submissions
made
by
michael
henderman,
david
blues
beans,
smite
and
susan
campbell.
There
is
some
suggestions
to
suspend
our
major
capital
projects
which
are
on
the
budget.
Does
that
mean
you're
on
the
same
page
with
that.
I
I
am
on
the
in
terms
of
the
overall
view,
having
listened
to
your
discussion
with
david
earlier,
I
think
one
of
the
difficulties
in
community
is
to
understand
the
source
of
funding
and
the
requirements
that
come
with
that,
if
you're
funded
to
do
a
particular
job
and
it's
state
or
federal
funding,
you
probably
don't
have
any
negotiable
options
to
spend
that
money
elsewhere,
and
I
think
that
that's
something
that
the
community
doesn't
and
honestly
doesn't
need
to
understand
until
they
have
a
strong
opinion
about
inverter
commons,
a
waste
of
funds.
I
So
I
I
agree
with
the
sentiments
expressed
by
my
colleagues,
but
I
have
you
know,
thought
tonight:
well,
there's
an
opportunity
for
some
further
community
development
about
the
source
of
funds
and
how
much
leeway
there
is
to
spend
some
funds
in
any
other
way
at
all.
But
what
they've
been
allocated
for?
I
F
F
A
A
K
Thanks
through
the
chair,
have
you
just
curious?
Is
this
a
doable
thing,
this
two-page
abbreviation
that
they're
talking
about,
because
I
know
how
hard
it
is
for
us
to
put
our
heads
around
it.
K
I
think
it
would
be
a
great
idea-
and
I
actually
also
would
like
it
put
in
a
bit
plainer
words
about
our
capital
works.
Even
though
I
didn't
ask
any
questions
about
speakers
on
on
the
capital
works,
I
find
that
it
would
be
hard
for
them
to
comprehend
that
this
money
is
for
this
job
only
and
if
we
do
not
do
these,
these
capital
works
that
we've
been
granted
the
money
for
we
won't
get
the
money
we
have
to
give
it
back.
L
Mr
chair,
just
for
you
in
regard
to
process
tonight
was
only
the
submission,
so
all
these
matters
are
covered
that
when
we
consider
the
actual
budget
itself,
so
we
don't
provide
answers
tonight
we
hear
what
the
community
has
to
say:
bring
the
report
back
to
council
on
what
they've
actually
raised.
So
okay.
G
Thanks
happy
treatment,
thank
you.
What
you
said.
Can
I
ask
a
question
from
one
of
the
submissions,
because
it's
mentioned
at
david
blows:
submission
about
the
rates
civ
as
a
mentioned
as
a
increase,
but
I
think
increased,
but
it's
looks
like
a
decline.
Looking
at
that
pitch.
J
J
J
J
The
plus
and
minus
it's
on
the
wrong
calculation,
and
that
would
be
correct.
The
summary
for
a
two-page
summary
of
88
pages.
J
D
With
regards
to,
there
seems
to
be
confusion
about
our
council
plan
and,
what's
in
it
with
regards
to
the
capital
of
texas,
like
the
redevelopment
of
the
visitor
information
plan,
I
know
it
was
on
the
last
house
play.
It
was
clearly
written
and
I
think
the
question
is
isn't
that
automatically
taken
over
and
I'm
just
confused
of
what
david
flora
is
saying.
There
was
no
it's
just
it
dumbfounds
me.
B
B
I
know:
there's
been
a
lot
of
consultation
around
both
projects
there
qualities
through
the
art
gallery
committee
in
particular,
and
through
the
feasibility
study.
There
was
a
tremendous
amount
of
consultation
on
on
that
particular
project.
The
vic,
I
personally
said
many
many
meetings
in
consultation
and
a
lot
of
other
projects
as
well,
but
I
set
that
aside
there's
some
genuine
concerns
and
issues
raised.
I
think
there's
officers
and
there's
a
council.
B
D
To
the
council,
outside
of
these
processes
as
well
in
a
lot
of
the
meetings
that
I've
seen
from
not
only
incubating
members
that
I
sit
on,
but
also
conversations
that
we
have
all
the
time.
So
it's
a
bit
of
a
balancing
act,
a
bunch
of
preparation
and
our
considerations
as
well.
So
I'm
really
pleased
with.
What's
you
know,
take
the
place
tonight
just
as
a
follow-up
to
that
same
question,
it's
one
of
those
things
where
maybe
it's?
D
B
B
And
I
think
we
quite
often
criticize
other
levels
of
government.
We
say
that
there's
no
long-term
planning
plan
for
a
particular
through
a
year
period.
Many
projects
may
last.
You
know
many
iterations
of
the
council
plan.
Sometimes
they
might
drop
out
here,
but
they'll
reappear
somewhere
over
here.
Does
it
mean
we
dismiss
it
in
its
entirety
for
this
little
period
of
time
when
we
know
it
existed
back
over
here
and
we
plan
to
bring
it
back
out
here.
So
it's
an
interesting
discussion.
B
B
B
G
J
A
Mention
that
tonight
was
to
listen
to
our
speakers
and
deny
their
talk
through
their
submissions
and
just
acknowledge
that
it's
being
noted
tonight
and
then
through
the
budget
process
in
the
next
few
weeks,
we'll
come
back
to
these
and
call
them
apart
a
bit
more
so
counselors.
There's
a
recommendation
on.
A
G
Thank
you
chair.
Yes,
I
would
like
to
thank
all
the
community
members
who
made
submissions
and
start
to
go
through
that
and
compile
them
in
person
today
and
giving
them
the
opportunity,
even
with
this
current
stage,
for
lockdown
to
come
and
speak
with
using
the
technology
for
probably
first
time
and
it's
good
to
have
that
opportunity,
as
you
mentioned
chair
in
the
next
meeting,
to
go
through
this
in
detail
and
discuss
these
sub
bishops.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
A
To
speak
I'll
just
make
a
comment
following
that.
I
agree
that
it
was
great
to
have
so
many
people
in
that
community
be
actively
involved
in
this
process.
A
We
will
get
to
pull
this
apart,
a
little
bit
more
in
the
next
couple
of
minute
cycles
and
consider
this
as
we
started
forcing
our
budget
all
over
the
place.