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B
Welcome
everybody
to
the
finance
and
planning
committee
meeting
of
the
5th
of
April.
B
B
B
Welcome
to
members
of
the
public
who
are
here
tonight
in
the
gallery
and
I'll
remind
you
that
you
must
be
silent
and
blessed
you're
asked
to
speak.
Excuse
me:
I've
got
a
bit
of
a
cough
disclosure
of
interest
in
accordance
with
Local
Government
Act
of
2020.
B
Confirmation
of
the
minutes
to
the
previous
meeting
with
someone
like
to
move
that
their
correct
record
councilor
Hearn
councilor
at
first
all
those
in
favor
Harry
item
number
one
planning
application
to
the
use
and
development
of
land
for
an
extractive
industrial
or
industry
sand
Quarry
at
1726,
turkey,
devonish,
Road,
devonish,
now
I
believe
we
have
a
couple
of
guest.
B
Okay,
when
that
Autumn
comes
up,
if
you
leave
the
room,
that
will
be
fine.
Okay,
we
have
four
speakers
a
night
on
the
sand
extraction.
First,
one
is
June
Howard
June.
If
you'd
like
to
come
up,
please
to
the
Rostrum.
D
D
D
D
Now
where's
the
water
coming
from
this
internet
we've
got
an
entire
pipeline
once
it's
cool
and
it
doesn't
stay
long
enough
again
with
the
states
coming
from
the
southwest
now
either
one
little
investigation
Spot,
while
we
trust
them
universities
with
us.
The
proposed
respond
to
healthy
some
retention
on
the
downstairs
rules.
The
government
extend
the
south
side
of
our
land,
in
fact
that
it
says
about
us
and
I
think
that's
that's.
D
The
causes
health
issues
and
you
can
cause
permanent
long
run
and
meeting
you
renewable
studies
with
silicones
that
have
become
the
newest
specialists.
The
current
University
sport.
We
need
to
learn
some
bars
and
Australians
will
develop
one
cancer
in
their
lifetime
due
to
exposure
to
still
with
us
that
if
a
person
would
resolve
an
additional
medicine.
B
E
Do
I
have
to
start
from
the
beginning?
No
would
okay,
so
thanks!
Gina
I'll
just
just
ran
over
this,
so
people
can
hear
thanks
for
your
presentation,
I
found
it
very
informative
and
very
thorough,
so
I
we're
just
talking
about
the
one
of
the
points
that
I
picked
up
when
you
were
when
you
were
giving
your
presentation
to
us
is
the
tourism,
the
number
of
people
that
visit
definition.
We
know
that
that's
increasing
all
the
time
very,
very
popular,
and
then
you
mentioned
the
the
traffic
going
to
and
from
the
Quarry.
E
And
just
just
to
follow
up,
please
so
June
would
that
also
impact
on
the
museum
there
that
you've
got
well
just
with
traffic
I
mean
with
if
there's
cars
and
buses
and
traffic
coming
from
I
mean
it
would
if
the
place
would
be
way
way.
Busier
I
would
imagine.
H
For
the
clear
presentation
in
your
presentation,
I
noted
you
had
a
lot
of
questions
like
with
the
EPA
involved
who's
going
to
manage
who's
gonna.
Do
the
rehabilitation
work,
the
questions
like
that
so
having
you
had
any
opportunity
or
any
conversation
or
the
clarity
clarifications
from
the
applicant
regarding
those
things
or
didn't.
You
have
any
opportunity
to
no.
I
Good
presentation
and
you're,
obviously
very
passionate
about
them
I'm
trying
to
get
equips
on
as
far
as
distance
goes
from
the
boundary
from
the
boundary
events
of
the
of
the
new
operation.
How
far
would
your
property
be.
A
J
Being
constable
who
lives
in
Coopers
Road,
yes
and
I
called
a
meeting.
Well,
not
just
me
actually
there's
other
people
here
we
called
a
meeting
as
soon
as
we
got
the
notification
within
four
days.
We
had
a
meeting
in
town
about
40,
odd
people
who
didn't
know
about
it.
So
if
some
didn't
yeah.
K
D
B
Thank
you
councilor
first
and
if
you
can
speak
into
the
microphone,
apparently
people
having
trouble
hearing
you,
maybe
in
the
town,
sorry
Mr
G.
Now
so
first
you
have
a
question.
L
Yes,
thank
you
for
the
presentation
comments.
When
you
put
a
lot
of
work
into
that,
so
I
went
for
a
drive
out
doing
this
yesterday.
Just
have
a
look
around,
and
so
with
relation
to
the
church.
We're
about
to
you.
D
D
B
Okay,
our
next
speaker
is
Conrad
Braun,
who
is
on
coming
in
remotely
I
believe.
B
B
M
Thank
you
chair
good
evening.
My
name
is
Conrad
Brown
and
also
with
a
survive.
Video
is
Ken
Whiteman
of
Whiteman
profit
and
Associates,
with
the
town
planning
consultant
that
prepared
the
planning
application
on
behalf
of
the
permanent
applicant
and
land
owner
Brad
Eleanor,
who
I
understand,
may
be
attending
the
meeting
in
person
tonight.
M
Firstly,
I'd
like
to
thank
the
councils
for
their
attendance
tonight
and
Joel
Ingham,
very
star
assessment
of
the
proposal
and
professional
conduct
throughout
the
planning
application
process.
M
With
respect
to
the
nature
of
the
Quarry.
We
just
wanted
to
highlight
that
the
work
area
is
only
five
hectares
with
the
depth
not
exceeding
five
meters
centrally
located
within
the
site.
It's
300
meters
from
the
nearest
dwelling
based
on
our
measurements.
M
The
proposed
work
area
of
five
hectares
pales
in
comparison
to
a
19
hectare,
sand
Quarry
that
was
approved
at
the
subject
site
by
Council
on
the
5th
of
November
in
2010,
via
a
previous
planning
permit
under
effectively
identical
planning
controls.
So
you
could
realistically
expect
that
a
much
larger
Quarry
could
be
approved
at
the
subject
site.
M
It's
been
submitted
in
some
of
the
objections
that
the
proposed
C
inquiry
is
not
consistent
with
the
purpose
of
the
rural
living
Zone
and
therefore
should
not
be
approved
by
Council.
However,
we
want
to
highlight
that
the
proposed
query
is
a
section
two
use
under
the
rural
living
Zone
and
therefore
must
be
assessed
on
its
merits.
M
Relevantly,
the
decision
guidelines
of
the
rural
living
Zone
require
that
consideration
be
given
to
the
municipal
planning
strategy
and
the
planning
policy
framework.
It
has
highlighted
that
the
proposal
is
consistent
with
Clauses,
1403-1s
and
1701-1s
of
the
planning
policy
framework
which,
respectively,
encourage
exploration
and
extraction
of
natural
resources
and
support
rural
economies
to
grow
and
diversify.
The
Proposal
is
also
consistent
with
clause
1403-1r,
which
supports
the
extraction
of
construction
materials
locally
in
the
Hume
region.
M
Concerns
have
also
been
raised
in
objections
about
potential
off-site
amenity
impacts,
specifically
the
impact
of
noise
and
dust.
Firstly,
we
again
wish
to
highlight
that
the
nearest
dwelling
is
approximately
300
meters
from
the
proposed
work
area,
which
would
realistically
provide
a
buffer
sufficient
to
adequately
mitigate
any
noise
and
or
dust
generated
by
the
proposed
quote.
Despite
this,
the
proposal
includes
commitments
to
strict
measures
to
minimize
off-site
amenity
impacts.
To
specifically
the
operating
hours
are
limited
to
ensure
dwellings
are
not
impacted
at
sensitive
hours.
M
A
40,
000
liter
water
truck
will
be
on
site
at
all
times,
while
the
Quarry
is
operating
to
suppress
dust,
the
the
water
truck
can
refill
on
site
via
a
water
license,
so
there
was
there's
no
concern
around
whether
or
not
the
truck
can
refill
on
site
a
2.5
meter.
High
bun
wall
will
be
constructed
at
the
perimeter
of
the
Quarry,
and
this
will
assessed
in
attenuating
noise
and
containing
dust.
M
Primitive
Landscaping
will
also
screen
the
work
area
from
view
from
the
township
and
at
the
adjoining
dwelling,
concerns
have
been
raised
with
respect
to
sorry,
I,
don't
know.
What's
going
on
with
respect
to
potential
impacts
on
human
health
from
silica.
M
M
Will
not
require
sand
to
be
broken
crushed
around
or
milled
on
site
and
there
is
to
be
no
sandblasting
or
casting.
Therefore,
there'll
be
no
exposure
to
silica
dust
to
resins
or
workers
and
therefore
they
won't
be
subjected
to
any
Associated
Health
impacts.
M
Their
offices
recommendation
includes
restrictive
conditions
that
will
ensure
that
the
emitted
air
is
preserved
to
an
acceptable
level
and
that
the
land
and
the
environment
will
be
rehabilitated
to
council
satisfaction.
The
applicant
acknowledges
the
conditions
in
full
Independence
to
comply
with
them,
while
the
use
operates.
I
just
wanted
to
also
mention
that
whilst
student
was
making
a
submission,
we
had
quite
a
bit
of
trouble
hearing,
most
of
that,
we
just
probably
caught
the
back
end
of
it
but
I
picked
up.
M
There
were
some
concerns
around
vehicle
movements
and
the
intersection
of
dookie
dookie
definition
and
main
road
and
devanish
road
I
believe.
M
Engineering
Report
with
the
application,
which
indicates
that
movements
of
that
intersection
will
only
increase
by
two
percent.
There's
only
going
to
be
two
sites,
two
staff
on
site,
there'll
be
minimal
visitors
and
then
there
will
just
be
I
think
there
was
about
10
truck
movements
per
day.
M
So
there's
not
going
to
be
a
significant
increase
in
vehicle
movements
through
that
intersection,
and
a
lot
of
the
movements
will
be
going
in
the
other
direction
and
I'm
not
sure
if
there
was
any
other
questions
that
June
had
specifically
for
us
in
her
in
her
submission
that
we
could
potentially
respond
to
so
I
apologize
for
that.
We
just
as
I
said
a
lot
of
trouble.
Hearing.
B
Thank
you
Conrad.
If
it's
okay,
we'll
have
the
council
to
ask
you
any
questions
that
you
may
be
able
to
answer.
If
you
don't
mind
sure
councilors
do
you
have
any
questions
of
Conrad
Council.
L
Presentation
Conrad
with
regards
to
the
owners:
are
you
aware
of
a
operated
online
before.
M
I
believe
Brad
has
been
significantly
involved
in
Civil,
Works
and
instruct
extraction
in
the
past
and
owns
and
operates
heavy
machinery
businesses,
so
I
believe
this
is
well
and
truly
within
his
area
of
expertise
and
I
brought
Brad
Brad's
in
the
meeting
and
potentially
could
speak
to
that
in
more
detail.
M
But
yeah
it
is
a
it's
in
compared
with
a
you
know,
a
quarry
that
you
might
envisage
where
there's
a
significant
crater
on
the
land,
the
the
Sands
are
only
going
to
be
extracted
to
a
depth
of
five
meters.
So
there's
not
a
significant
amount
of
technical
expertise
that
would
be
required
required.
M
The
sand
is
just
more
or
less
there
to
be
extracted.
It's
my
understanding.
H
You
chair,
you
just
mentioned:
there's
not
technical
expertise
or
greater
deal
of
technical
expertise,
not
required.
That's
that's
a
bit
of
concern
to
me
because
it's
in
the
center
of
the
town
and
300
meters
only
away
from
a
residence
and
concerned
about
the
dust
and
all
the
pollution
happens
and
you're,
saying
technical
expertise
is
not
required
a
bit
confused.
Can
you
elaborate
on
that?
Please,
thank
you
sure.
M
M
The
sand
is
at
more
or
less
surface
level,
so
the
sand
would
just
be
extracted
rather
than
in
operation,
where
you're
drilling
deep
into
the
land,
and
you
require
structures
and
all
sorts
of
Machinery.
This
is
a
much
more
simplified
operation.
A
D
M
F
Just
babe,
that's
one
of
the
points
that
you
make
in
the
earlier
in
the
presentation
being
reader
project
year
2010
and
about
half
the
EPA
institutions
at
the
EPA
restriction
change
in
the
Iraq,
so
that
there
are
more
concerned
about
environmental
issue.
M
Not
I
don't
believe
that
they
have
changed
to
such
an
extent
that
that
would,
you
know,
deter
someone
from
pursuing
approval
for
a
query
of
that
nature.
M
They
have
always
had
standards
Rehabilitation
of
the
land
which
the
the
previous
permit
applicant
would
have
been
bound
by
and
the
recommendation
that
forms
part
of
the
officer's
recommendation
includes
a
condition
that
requires
us
to
submit
a
plan
for
rehabilitation
so
that
that
will
need
to
be
to
counsel
satisfaction
before
the
works
can
commence.
M
E
E
M
Yeah,
so
the
the
truck
will
basically
it's
a
it's
a
it's,
a
really
big
sort
of
mining
style,
truck
that
it's
effectively
a
dump
truck
that
you
would
see
in
a
mining
context,
but
rather
than
having
a
Tipper
on
the
back.
It's
got
a
40
000
liter
water
tank.
So,
whilst
Machinery
is
extracting
the
sand,
the
the
truck
will
be
operating
at
all
time.
K
M
All
times
to
ensure
that
any
dust
that
is
generated
by
the
extraction
will
be
suppressed
and
I
just
did
I
just
wanted
to
go
back
around
to
the
silica
dust
because
you've
mentioned
it.
Then
we've
done
we've
done
some
research
on
that
and
the
silica
dust
is
only
released
from
Sand
when
it's
it's
ground
or
milled
or
you're.
M
Doing
sandblasting,
and
you
know
the
the
relatively
straightforward
process
of
picking
up
the
sand
and
and
removing
it
from
the
land
and
transporting
out
is
not
going
to
cause
the
silica
dust
to
be
released
from
the
sand.
M
It's
not
to
say
that
there
won't
be
a
you
know,
a
very
mild
amount
of
dust
which
would
mostly
be
taken
care
of
by
the
water
truck,
but
the
silica
dust
won't
be
released
from
the
sand
that
that
would
occur
in
an
industrial
process
off-site
by
you
know
the
the
manufacturer
who's
using
the
sand.
Ultimately,.
I
A
couple
of
questions:
why
did
you,
why
did
the
applicants
sort
of
choose
that
site
I
can
knowing
there'd
be
obviously
issues
around
the
site,
wouldn't
have
been
other
sites
that
you
could
mind
staying
there,
that
might
have
been
100,
Acre,
Paddock
or
200
acre
Paddock?
That
wouldn't
add
these
issues.
M
Look
I
can't
speak
to
the
the
precise
motives
of
the
owner
for
purchasing
the
land.
However,
there
is
a
a
former
I
think
it's
called
a
Paleolithic
riverbed
on
the
site,
so
they
only
occur
at
certain
locations
so
sand
the
locations
chosen
based
on
where
the
Sand's
located.
So
whilst
you
know
it
is
in
a
rural
living,
Zone
and
farming
Zone
and
those
you
know,
may
you
know
not
seem
to
be
the
correct
zoning.
M
There
isn't
any
Zone
that
is
specif
specifically
designated
for
sand
extraction,
so
you're,
probably
typically
going
to
see
sand
extraction,
occur
in
a
rural
environment
and
probably
80
or
90
percent
of
rural
land
is
Zone
farming
zone.
So
it
wouldn't
be
unusual
for
sand
extraction
to
occur
in
a
farming
zone
or
a
rural
living
Zone.
I
Thank
you
and
they've
got
a
question.
If
I
can
my
I
notice
there's
a
time
limit
on
the
by
the
applicant
on
when
he
wants
to
mine
the
sand
and
just
looking
at
looking
at
doing
a
bit
of
a
review
on
Sand
the
last
week,
or
so
when
this
came
up,
it
seems
Sands
a
very
short
product
at
the
moment
in
Victoria,
there's
not
much
of
it
about
it's
very
valuable.
I
What's
going
to
happen
at
the
end
of
the
say,
we
passed
this.
What
would
happen
at
the
end
of
the?
If
that
period?
Would
they
go
for
an
extension
or
make
the
plug
make
it
bigger
like?
It
seems
to
be
a
bit
funny
that
they're
only
the
only
one
there
for
a
certain
period
of
time.
M
The
extraction
of
sand
from
this
site-
do
you
mean
so
look
I,
believe
that
it's
it's
obviously
the
amount
of
sand
on
the
land
within
the
parameters
that
we've
set
is
finite.
It's
five
hectares
and
five
meters
of
depth,
and
so
the
reason
that
limit
has
been
adopted
is
because
it's
of
such
small
size
that
it
it
requires
a
work
or
authority
from
Earth
Resources
regulation
under
the
middle
minerals
and
resources
act,
but
it
doesn't
require
a
full.
M
It
doesn't
require
a
full
work
plan
because
it's
it's
seen
as
such
a
modest
scale.
So
you
know
if
they
were
to
pursue
extending
the
the
site,
the
work
area,
the
size
of
the
Quarry.
They
would
have
to
then
go
back
to
Earth,
races,
Earth
Resources
regulation
and
apply
for
a
work
plan
and
they'd
also
have
to
come
back
for
an
amended
Amendment
or
a
new
permit,
which
would
need
to
be
vetted
by
Council.
Obviously,.
I
I've
got
one
more
if
you
don't
mind-
and
this
is
to
finish
rehab
work,
you're,
going
to
turn
them
into
a
lake
a
bit
like
what
David
Mitchell's
done
at
Lilydale
when,
with
the
mining,
the
lime
down
there,
they
made
that
into
a
lake
I
have
reservations.
I
If
you,
if
it's
the
same
pit,
you
know
how
you're
going
to
keep
the
water
level
the
units
you
get
a
clay
liner
or
how
has
that
happened
and
is?
Is
the
money
for
the
rehab
work.
M
So
so
we
understand
is
our
it's
our
understanding
that
there
will
be
some.
Some
amount
of
water
will
obviously
pull
in
the
work
area
once
the
Sand's
been
instructed
extracted,
but
there's
been
a
geotechnical
engineer,
prepare
an
assessment
which
indicates
that
a
lot
of
it
will
will
penetrate
into
the
soil
in
terms
of
The
Rehabilitation
plan.
M
That's
been
requested
of
us
via
a
recommended
condition
and
to
best
inform
how
we
will
resolve
that
we've
appointed
an
environmental
engineer,
so
they'll
prepare
an
assessment
and
determine
exactly
what
the
best
path
forward
is,
whether
that
is
you
know
whether
it
is
a
lake
or
whether
it's
back
filling
it
with
clean
fill
or
certain
types
of
vegetation
that'll
be.
The
engineer
will
determine
that
and
that
will
that
will
need
to
be
supplied
to
council
for
approval
before
the
works
can
commence.
Okay,.
O
Worries,
thank
you,
councilor
King.
Thank
you,
Mr,
chair
good
evening
Conrad.
Thank
you
for
your
time
this
evening,
just
a
quick
one
with
regards
to
the
potential
risk
of
flooding,
given
the
the
nature
of
the
site
and
the
proposed
build
up
of
of
soil
around
the
site.
My
concern
is
for
those
neighboring
properties.
O
M
Yeah
so
there'll
be
there'll,
be
minimal,
fills
stored
on
site
because,
as
I
said,
the
sand
is
not
a
significant
depth
below
the
surface,
and
the
the
Quarry
will
only
be
a
maximum
of
five
meters
deep.
So
we
we
supplied
a
a
drainage
Report
with
the
application
which
determined
that,
because
the
the
Sands
actually
located
at
a
ridge
on
the
site,
once
the
Sand's
extracted
the
water
that
basically
Falls
within
the
work
area,
would
would
be
retained
within
the
work
area.
M
So
their
conclusion
was
that
it
realistically
might
actually
reduce
the
rate
of
flow
of
water
onto
other
properties.
Council's
engineer
has
requested
a
more
detailed
engineering
assessment
that
will
need
to
be
submitted
to
council
satisfaction,
so
that
will
also
be
supplied
before
the
workers
can
commence.
G
A
A
H
Thank
you.
When
you
spoke
about
the
silica
dust,
you
mentioned
the
research
and
you
said
you
did
your
research
and
the
silica
dust
won't
be
in
the
air
when
you
extract
sand
from
their
mind,
and
I
would
like
to
hear
a
bit
about
your
research,
the
methodology,
how
you
did
the
research
and
who
did
the
research,
was
the
person
qualified
to
do
a
research
and
make
such
a
statement
and
was
that
research
submitted
to
the
council,
or
is
that
a
part
of
this
documents?
Thank
you.
M
No,
so
that
the
we
we
haven't
provided
any
information
as
part
of
the
planning
permit
application,
because
that
was
something
that
was
raised
as
a
an
objection
much
later
in
the
process.
M
So
we've
called
the
APA
and
inquired
as
to
whether
you
know
they
had
any
concerns
regarding
silica
dust
emissions
and
the
advice
we
got
from
them
was
that,
basically,
unless
the
sand
is
ground
or
milled
or
processed
on
site,
then
it's
extremely
unlikely
that
the
dust
that
any
silica
dust
would
be
emitted
like
we've.
M
Also,
you
could
just
do
a
simple
Google
search
and
there's
there's
something
on
the
cancer
Council
website
that
I've
seen,
which
was
probably
my,
which
was
my
first
point
at
call,
which
basically
affirms
that
submission
as
well
so
yeah.
It's
it's.
It's
exposed
in
the
process
of
of
cutting
and
grinding,
which
is
why
people
that
work
with
stone
bench
tops
and
and
those
sorts
of
things
they're
exposed
to
it
when
they're
actually
cutting
up
the
materials.
B
Conrad
are
there
any
other
questions,
sorry
to
take
questions
from
the
gallery?
Thank
you
very
much.
Conrad.
B
Thank
you.
Our
next
speaker
is
Brendan
Turley
likes
to
come
up
to
the
roster
and
thanks
Brendan,
you
probably
know
the
drill.
By
now.
You
have
three
minutes.
P
K
Q
And
so
my
experience
from
being
in
heat
skit
is
a
lot
of
the
time
miners
will
come
in
they'll
pay
a
bond
for
the
rehabilitation
of
the
mines
at
the
end
of
the
term
of
the
mining
lease
or
when
the
mine
is
done,
they'll
walk
away
and
the
restoration
usually
exceeds
the
bond
where
the
applicant
or
the
mining
company
will
just
tell
Council,
keep
the
bond
and
they're
done.
Q
Q
How
is
the
bond
calculated,
who
calculates
this
Bond
and
is
there
going
to
be
regular?
Revisions
to
you
know
check
whether
the
bond
is
sufficient
for
restoration
and
I
also
would
like
to
know
whether
the
council
Will
Keep
Us
residents,
informed
as
to
whether
as
to
what
the
bond
is
and
how
it
is
measured
and
what
steps
Council
will
take
to
ensure
that
restoration
will
proceed
with
the
site.
Q
Sorry
also,
there
are
I
notice.
There
are
a
few
Provisions
that
councilors
put
forward
and
I
want
to
know
how
they
will
be
measured
as
to
whether
the
applicant
is
implies
with
them
and
what
happens
when
the
applicant
doesn't
comply
any
further
with
the
conditions,
all
the
conditions,
not
just
restoration,
but
traffic
mud
sand
noise,
the
native
vegetation
that
wall
that
needs
to
be
built,
the
Bund
anything
will
he
be
forced
to
stop
extraction
until
he
complies,
or
will
he
just
be
allowed
to
continue?
Q
Q
B
Would
you
be
happy
to
add
questions
from
the
counselors?
Anyone
have
a
question
for
Brendan
councilor
O'brien
that
microphone
on
please
and
get
close.
E
Hey
I
hope
everyone
can
hear
me.
Thank
you,
Mr,
chair
Brendan,
thank
you
for
your
presentation
and
sounds
like
you've.
Had
a
bit
of
lived
experience
living
in
areas
where
there's
Minds
have
occurred,
but
I'm
just
wondering
if
the
Quarry,
the
sand
Quarry
was
already
up
and
running.
Would
you
have
bought
your
house
in
devanish.
Q
R
I,
probably
won't
need
the
microphone
I've
always
been
told
that
I
speak
loud,
I'm,
Julia
Manuel,
my
husband's
here
tonight
with
me.
George
we
bought
a
property
on
duty,
devonish
Road,
where
opposite
where
the
proposed
mine
is
going.
We
bought
there.
Two
years
ago
we
left
Melbourne
where
a
couple
of
old
nurses-
and
we
left
the
horror
of
covert
behind
us
to
have
some
peace
and
quiet
and
tranquility
and
live
in
a
lovely
community
in
a
farming
community
and
we've
met
many
wonderful
people
in
that
farming,
Community
being
embraced.
R
We
wake
up
every
morning
and
we
listen
to
kookaburras
and
we
listen
to
silence.
We
can
hear
the
wind
blow
through
the
trees
and
we've
got
animals
that
we've
always
dreamed
of.
Having
everyone
knows
in
devanish
that
we've
got
a
baby
donkey
and
to
adult
donkeys
we
have
some
alpacas.
We
have
some
sheep.
We
have
some
chooks
on
the
human
face
of
what's
going
on
here
tonight,
I'm,
not
a
statistician,
I,
don't
know
you
know
all
the
codes
and
conducts
and
everything.
R
But
what
I
do
know
is
that
this
is
going
to
ruin
our
peaceful
life
that
we
chose
in
devonish
two
years
ago.
We
never
would
have
bought
that
farm.
We've
got
26
Acres.
If
we
had
have
known
that
we
were
going
to
be
living
opposite
a
mine
and,
let's
be
you
know,
pretty
succinct
here.
It
is
a
mine
that
they're
about
to
sink
opposite
us.
Just
like
the
previous
gentleman,
we
look
out
over
the
landscape.
It
is
absolutely
beautiful.
R
Yes,
it's
a
farming
community
and
yes,
you
know
there
are
trucks,
go
down
our
road,
but
we
know
that
those
trucks
are
carrying
grain
to
feed
our
community
you're,
going
to
take
away
acreage.
That's
currently
used
for
farming
to
feed
us.
Where
does
this
all
stop?
You
know
where
do
we
stop
taking
from
the
land
and
I'm
sure
that
all
the
farmers
in
the
area
would
feel
the
same
way?
R
I've
listened
to
all
the
explanations
about
you
know.
Potentially
it
won't
make
much
noise.
Potentially,
it
won't
cause
any
health
issues,
but
nobody
can
guarantee
that,
and
you
know
I
can
tell
you
right
now
when
my
donkey
honks
everybody
in
devanish
hears
it.
So
you
cannot
tell
me
that
I
won't
hear
the
noise
from
that
mine
from
7am
in
the
morning
when
I
normally
get
up
and
drink
a
coffee.
On
my
front,
Veranda
I
am
going
to
hear
mining
going
on
in
the
background
now.
R
I
did
also
propose
that
the
meeting
about
the
noise
from
the
beep
beep
beep
and
you
know
I
felt
I-
was
fobbed
off
by
the
gentleman
that
was
talking
to
us
who's
owning
the
the
property
may
I
continue
just
briefly.
Yes,.
R
So
I
was
actually
fogged
off
and
said.
Always,
that's
all.
That's
worrying
you
we'll
just
put
silences
on
them.
Well,
it's
not
just
that
beep
beep
beep,
it's
it'll,
be
constant
truck
noise
and
to
tell
me
that
there's
only
going
to
be
two
people
on
site
come
on
it's
a
mine.
How
do
you
mine
sand
with
two
people
on
site
in
the
middle
of
summer?
R
The
dust
in
devanish
like
it
happens
because
it's
as
dry
and
Barren
and
flat
as
anything
and
I
try
and
keep
the
dust
down
at
my
property
with
a
bit
of
water.
It
doesn't
work,
that's
just
the
nature
of
the
Beast
out
there
and
we
all
accept
that
because
it's
just
plain
dirt
in
our
garden,
but
I,
don't
know.
R
What's
going
to
come
out
of
that
mine
and
potentially
cause
me
issues,
my
animals
issues
and
my
community
issues
not
to
mention
the
grain,
that's
growing
in
the
area
and
I
put
it
to
every
one
of
you
counselors.
If
this
proposal
was
about
to
go
in
your
backyard
or
across
the
road
from
you,
would
you
be
happy
about
it?
Would
you
vote
Yes
to
it,
because
it's
the
right
thing
for
this
gentleman
and
I?
R
E
Thanks
Julie,
a
very
passionate
presentation
to
it,
so
thank
you
I!
Thank
you
for
that.
So
I'm,
just
wondering
Julie,
with
your
nursing
background
and
given
that
you've
just
been
talking
about
the
Dust,
would
you
anticipate
that
people
living
in
that
area
that
may
suffer
some
allergies
now
may
have
an
increase
in
that
illness?
Asthma.
Things
like
that
because
of
the
extra
dust
that
you're
anticipating
is
going
to
be
in
the
environment.
I'm.
R
Today
and
in
10
years
time
we
find
out
it
actually
wasn't
how
many
times
do
we
hear
that
and
I'm
not
convinced
that
what
what
the
the
landowner
has
put
forward
that
they
have
done
due
diligence
in
protecting
all
of
us
from
potential
issues
down
the
track,
because
they
won't
know-
and
this
is
what
happens
with
a
lot
of
health
issues-
you
don't
know
until
the
health
issues
start
to
come
about,
and
hindsight
is
a
wonderful
thing.
R
O
Thank
you,
Julie
I've
got
so
many
questions
about
the
donkeys
but
I'll
catch.
It
focused
on
the
item
Julie.
This
is
probably
just
more
of
a
I
guess,
a
personal
question:
why
did
you
choose
vanilla?
Why
did
you
choose
definition?
What
was
it
that
you
know
you
left
the
Big
Smoke
to
come
up
here?
What
was
the
the
final
decision
to
come
here.
R
R
We
still
have
family
down
in
Melbourne,
so
we
wanted
to
be
close
enough
to
still
it
be
possible
to
drive
down
and
back
in
a
day
if
we
needed
to,
but
we
certainly
wanted
to
live
in
a
a
community
style
environment,
but
we
wanted
that
peace
and
quiet
and
tranquility,
and
we
looked
for
nearly
12
months
for
a
property
and
when
we
saw
this
property
on
the
market
in,
in
definition,
it
had
been
on
the
market
for
about
four
weeks,
which
was
unusual
at
the
time
and
the
estate
agent
said
to
us.
R
The
reason
it
hasn't
sold
is
because
it's
got
a
tiny,
tiny
house
on
it
and
he
was
right.
It's
a
tiny
house,
but
we
wanted
a
tiny
house
because
we
didn't
want
to
live
our
life
indoors
anymore,
because,
as
nurses
we've
predominantly
done
that
we
wanted
to
be
outside
and
no
matter
what
the
weather
is.
We
are
outside
either
gardening
or
in
the
paddock
with
our
animals,
and
you
know
that's
what
brought
us
to
that
that,
like
we
drove
down
that
driveway
and
went
this
is
for
us
and
we
bought
it.
R
Two
days
later
went
to
the
local
pub
spoke
to
the
public.
In
there
he
told
us
what
a
lovely
Community
it
was
as
well,
and
we
go
to
the
pub
every
Thursday
night
now
have
done
since
we've
moved
there
and
I
feel
that
we've
become
part
of
the
community
and
I
wanted
to
put
the
human
face
of,
what's
being
proposed
to
the
to
the
what's
being
proposed
to
this
community.
I
wanted
to
be
that
human
face
for
them
yeah.
Thank
you.
Thank.
S
Thank
you,
chair
I
present
a
planning
application
for
the
use
and
development
of
an
extractive
industry
for
Sanctuary
at
1726
dookie
devenish,
Road
devonish.
The
land
is
located
on
the
south
side
of
Duke
heavenish
Road
and
is
in
regular
in
shape
containing
an
overall
area
of
29.61
hectares.
The
land
is
currently
vacant
and
used
for
agricultural
purposes.
S
S
Operating
hours
are
proposed
to
be
from
Monday
to
Friday,
7
A.M
to
7
p.m,
and
Saturday
7
A.M
to
1
pm.
There
will
be
a
maximum
of
two
staff
on
the
side
at
any
one
time,
and
access
will
be
provided
to
the
site
from
duke
Japanese
Road,
The
Proposal
was
advertised
and
19
objections
were
received.
The
issues
raised
within
the
objections
are
summarized
on
page
13,
14
of
the
report.
S
Further
two
objections
received
the
applicant
has
submitted
advice,
plans
detailing
a
Bund
wall
along
the
northern
eastern
perimeters
of
the
Quarry
and
a
vegetation
screen
along
the
north
and
east
of
the
operations
area.
All
referral
authorities,
including
Earth
Resources,
big
track
and
Heritage
Victoria,
advised
with
no
objection
to
the
proposal
subject
to
conditions
on
balance,
is
considered.
The
same
inquiry
can
operate
from
the
site
subject
to
Provisions
that
will
reduce
the
unreasonable
or
manage
any
unreasonable
and
manatee
impact
or
joining
properties.
Noting
strong
policy
support
for
extractive
sand
industry
extractive
industry
within
State
policy.
S
The
regional
strategy
for
Hume
is
to
support
the
availability
of
construction
materials
locally
and
consider
measures
to
facilitate
and
manage
their
manager
extraction.
The
recommendation
provided
on
pages
18
to
23
of
report
seeks
to
facilitate
the
proposal
and
manage
amenity
impacts
from
the
extraction.
L
Last
year,
2022.,
okay,
and
so
that's
a
fair
while
ago
and
I
know
that
we
take
a
long
time
to
get
to
things
these
days
because
we've
got
so
many
of
them
do.
But
were
there
any
issues
along
the
way.
S
The
the
application
followed
due
process,
so
it
was,
we
requested
further
information.
Once
we
received
that
information,
it
was
advertised.
We
received
objections
once
we
receive
those
objections,
then
we
got
back
to
the
applicant
to
say:
we've
got
these
objections
with
such
with,
with
these
issues
involved.
S
What
what
are
you
prepared
to
do
to
to
ameliorate
some
of
these
issues?
Okay,.
L
Thanks
with
regard
a
follow-up
with
regards
to
the
proximity
of
the
township,
not
just
the
neighbors
I'm,
looking
at
the
map
that
you've
supplied
and
really
you
know
once
you
go
across
the
railway
line,
you're
in
downtown
devonish
and
has
there
ever
been
any
study
done
on
wind
movements
and
so
forth,
like
that,
it
would
be
wonderful
to
be
able
to
know
just
how
far
the
dust
is
going
to
go
from
from
as
far
as
I
can
see
and
I'm
trying
to
do
anything
other
than
ask
question:
has
there
been
any
studies
like
that
done.
P
O
Joel
I
just
know
it.
On
page
13,
the
referrals
went
to
Vic
track
and
it
said
no
objections
subject
to
conditions.
Obviously,
this
property
is
adjacent
to
that.
The
line
like
I'm
just
can
you
elaborate
a
little
bit
on
what
the
two
conditions
means
so
I
have
some
reservations.
Around
What
could
potentially
go
wrong
of
the
track.
Yeah.
S
So
we
extract
conditions
are
on
page
23
of
the
report,
condition
numbers
20
to
22.
E
Thank
you
Mr,
yes,
Joe!
So
just
going
back
to
what
Conrad
said
in
his
presentation-
and
he
mentioned
that
EPA
report
in
2010
13
years
ago
and
then
also
an
application
was
made
I
think
at
the
same
time,
I
may
be
wrong,
but
around
that
time
do
you
know
why
this
project
sat
for
so
long,
13
years
without
anything
happening
and
now
I?
Suddenly,
it's
it's
alive
again.
I.
S
I
think
the
the
previous
ceremony
was
on
the
adjoining
property
to
the
west
of
the
site.
So
not
this
specific,
specific
site,
and
it
was
much
larger
than
this
one.
The
EPA
may
have
been
referred
to
back
then
as
part
of
this
application.
However,
I
have
I,
don't
have
a
recollection
of
what
they
said
back
then
thank.
F
H
Thank
you
chair.
Thank
you.
You
mentioned
the
properties
adjoining
properties
had
sand
mining
permits,
so
does
that
mean
that
there
would
be
a
precedence?
There
will
be
more
assignments
around
in
devonish.
If
we
pass
this
today,
there
will
be
an
opportunity
for
that.
T
Mr,
chair
Joel
Just
concerning
the
bond.
Can
you
tell
us
what
sort
of
holding
you
have
for
the
bond
and
is
there
a
way
to
make
sure
that
the
work's
done
other
than
just
keeping
the
Bond
as
Brendan
mentioned,.
S
There's
a
permit
condition
too
that
the
applicants
have
to
comply
with
so
so
I've
got
an
enforcement
of
the
condition.
But,
however,
the
main
stick
is
the
is
the
rehabilitation
Bond.
H
It's
all
about
the
rehabilitation,
what
sort
of
qualifications,
skills
and
resources
do
we
need
to
monitor
something
like
this
and
have
we
got
that
on
board
at
the
moment,.
A
I
My
question
a
little
bit
but
two
questions.
Was
there
any
the
timing,
but
six
days
a
week
from
seven
till
seven,
was
there
any
any
discussions,
regarded
timing?
He
will
take
as
far
as
timing
as
what
time
of
your
operation
was.
S
That
there
was
there
was
no
discussions
during
the
application.
The
the
only
thing
that
has
happened
there
is
that
we've
decided
that
seven
till
seven
is
too
long
and
within
the
recommendation,
we're
at
right
from
seven
o'clock
till
five
o'clock
during
normal
business
hour
hours.
I
Thank
you
and
John.
My
second
question
is
fairly
serious.
Is
Council
got
the
resources
bearing
in
mind
that
we
don't
get
much
cooperation
out
of
the
EPA
or
12
or
whatever
their
known
changes?
Now
we
get
very
little
cooperation
out
of
those
organizations.
It
seems
to
be.
We've
got
neither
in
very
stringent
conditions
here.
I
The
serious
question
to
you
is:
do
we
have
the
resources
to
manage
this
on
a
day-to-day
basis
when
I
look
at
when
I
look
at
one
here
about
taking
materials
out
onto
the
roads,
which
is
a
serious
thing,
a
diminished,
we
don't
control
it
anywhere
else
on
that,
but
facilities
at
the
moment.
So
here
you're
going
to
control
the
damage.
S
It's
difficult
and
a
lot
of
it
is
complaint
based.
So
if
there
is
one
on
the
road
and
we
hear
about
it,
then
we
go
out
and
we
contact
the
applicant
to
to
fix
it
up.
So.
I
B
S
Yeah
and
that'll
be
up
to
their
specialized
person
to
come
to
us
with
that
plan,
so
that
we
can
review
it
and
then
basically,
which
could
be
filling
of
water
or
it
could
be
back
filling
depends
on
which
way
they
wish
to
go
and
then
from
there
they'll
need
to
cost
that
and
which
is
where
the
rehabilitation
Bond
comes
in.
B
It
says
Council
Davis
stated
earlier:
I
think
I'm
filling
a
sand
pit
full
of
water
might
not
spring
a
leak
or
two
are
there
any
other
questions
of
Joel
councilor
O'brien.
E
Thank
you,
Mr,
chair,
so
just
to
follow
up
on
the
chairs
question
about
the
rehabilitation.
At
what
stage
of
the
process
does
the
applicant
have
to
agree
to
how
it's
going
to
be
rehabilitated,
and
you.
K
E
S
The
the
Rehabilitation
plan
has
to
be
done
prior
to
commencement
of
works,
and
as
part
of
that,
we
will
require
how
they're
going
to
do
it
and
how
they're
going
to
Stage
to
do
it
I.E.
Are
they
going
to
do
it
right
at
the
end,
or
are
they
going
to
do
it
as
they
go
along,
so
that
that'll
all
form
part
of
the
way
just.
E
To
follow
up
just
to
follow
up
then
Joel.
So
are
we
able
to
stipulate
as
a
council
when
that
Rehabilitation
is
done?
It
may
be
preferable
to
do
it
sequentially
during
the
process,
so
that
there's
not
that
big,
open,
gaping
area
and
what
about
costs
and
things
like
that
if
they
say
now
that
they're
getting
their
pay,
this
Bond
but
costs
in
say
five
years
will
be
up
everything's
going
up.
E
S
It's
difficult
because
it's
100
of
the
cost
now
won't
be
the
same
five
years,
but
the
only
way
that
we
could
deal
with
that
is
to
add
a
CPI
Clause
to
to
the
to
the
rehabilitation
bond
which
is
possible.
B
P
I
So
we're
we're
lacking
sand
wines.
We
need
sand
mines.
On
the
other
hand,
I
can
see
I
feel
it's
in
the
wrong
spot
myself,
the
other
it's
certainly
in
the
wrong
spot,
and
the
other
thing
that
concerns
me
about
this
mining
issue
is,
if
we
vote
against
it
tonight,
it'll
go
to
vcat.
If
we
pass
the
night
it'll
we'll
have
issues
on
our
hands
as
far
as
dealing
with
it,
we've
got.
I
We've
got
issues
in
our
hands
with
other
planning
permits
at
the
moment
pending
where,
where
we're
in
control
of
we
we're
the
ones
that
set
the
regulations,
set
all
the
dot
points
and
we're
the
ones
that
got
to
control
all
those
dot
points.
You
know
we
look
at
keeping
the
road
clear,
just
as
one
little
tiny
thing.
I
Well,
that's
really
important
that
the
roadways
kept
clear,
but
you
know
we've
got
dozens
of
building
sites
where
we
don't
monitor
that
the
Dust
and
the
wind
and
everything
else
like
you
get
winds
out
out
in
the
country
areas
and
the
might
blow
for
a
week
in
town.
You
saw
the
sheltered
in
in
our
in
our
townships,
but
I
I,
just
believe
that
you
know
the
Dust.
How
do
you?
How
do
you
define
dust?
I
It's
a
bit
like
a
like
a
like
a
food
like
how
do
you
divine
smell
because
you
go
through
a
different
time?
The
smell
is
different.
You
go
into
a
into
a
quarry
and
then
and
the
dust
is
going
to
be
different
at
different
times
of
the
day.
It
depends
whether
it's
windy
so
there's
so
many
things
in
you
can
go
and
put
down
a
thousand
or
500
different
dot
points
that
you
have
to
be
obliged
by
to
make
controls,
but
we're
a
small
Council.
How
do
we
control
all
these?
I
All
these
dot
points
and
what
departments
have
we
got
to
back
us
up
to
control
them?
They're
all
there
to
give
us
referrals,
but
after
the
referrals
are
gone
they
wouldn't
they
say.
Oh
it's,
a
council's
responsibility,
everything's
a
council
responsibility.
You
know
the
EPA
walk
away
from
us
numerous
times
on
many
things.
I
won't
talk
about
dope.
L
L
On
I'm,
not
sitting
on
the
fence
on
this
one,
this
one's
clearly
an
issue
for
community
and
society,
as
counselor
Davis
said.
Yes,
Australia
does
need
sand,
but
Australia
needs
probably
more
so.
L
The
communities
like
devanish
that
are
filled
with
real
people
that
live
there,
because
it's
devanish
places
like
devanish
have
had
a
lot
of
challenges
put
towards
them
as
many
of
our
small
townships
around
Australia
everywhere
over
the
years,
just
with
different
things,
going
away,
kids
going
away
and
never
being
they
finally
get
a
tell
on
the
bloody
ladder,
and
they
can
see
some
kind
of
Direction
where
things
are
turning
their
way
with
the
the
Arts
Trail.
The
solo
Arts
Trail
is
just
spectacular.
L
We
know
we've
seen
it
in
gurenbach,
we've
seen
it
in
lots
of
small
towns
and
it
it's
brought
a
whole
new
lease
of
life
for
these
communities
and
I
wish
this
sand
mind
applicant
all
the
best
just
with
regards
to
its
location,
the
amenity,
the
of
the
life
of,
although
everybody
that
lives
in
debenish
I,
went
out
there
yesterday
and
had
a
look
around
just
to
get
a
real
feel
for
it,
and
I
can
tell
you
now
that
from
what
I
can
see
on
this
plan,
it
won't
need
to
be
a
big
win
to
blow
it
right
away
from
the
bun.
L
B
Thank
you
councilor
first,
is
there
anyone
speaking
against
the
recommendation
Council
again
right
now,.
H
Yes,
I
speak
against
the
recommendation
now,
as
counselor
as
the
council,
most
responsibilities
to
health
and
well-being
of
our
community,
and
this
applicant's
representative
today
speaking
hasn't
given
me
any
confidence
that
they
take
that
seriously.
H
The
statements
met
today
raised
a
lot
of
questions
and
I,
don't
think
they
were
clarify,
it
feel
and
I
I
didn't
have
a
feeling.
They
took
it
seriously
now
to
mention
the
silica
dust
and
the
silica
dust
won't
be
spreading
and
those
statements
were
made
on
a
so-called
research.
Just
a
Google
Search
and
a
phone
call
to
EPA
I.
Think
that's
not
responsible
enough
and
I
can't
support
this
recommendation
today.
E
Sure,
well,
I,
think
health
and
well-being
of
any
Community
is
uppermost
as
well
really
really
important,
especially
since
we've
all
come
through
covert
and
trying
to
dig
our
way
out
of
it
and
I.
Think.
Given
the
amount
of
community
concern
as
evident
by
the
number
of
people
from
from
devonish
that
are
present
here
tonight
and
the
very
heartfelt
presentations
that
we've
been
given
and
the
information
that
we've
been
given,
I
feel
that
I'm
not
able
to
support
the
application
tonight.
T
Thank
you,
Mr,
chair,
I,
too,
speak
against
this.
T
Not
that
I've
really
struggled
because,
as
councilor
Davis
has
said,
we
we
are
in
desperate
need
of
sand
in
Victoria,
probably
across
Australia,
but
I
do
really
find
this
a
little
bit
too
close
a
comfort
and
I
would
like
to
see
a
quarry
somewhere
else
away
from
our
townships.
My
problem
is
the
town,
I,
I,
love,
devanish,
I,
love
the
community
and
to
think
that
the
dust
can
be
in
there
it's
great
to
have
a
water
truck,
but
it's
not
ever
a
water
truck,
never
eliminates
it
and
I
didn't
hear
wrong.
T
T
So,
yes,
I'm
I'm
against
it.
Unfortunately
thank.
O
You
Mr,
chair,
I,
am
also
voting
against
the
recommendation
proposed
tonight
and
I
do
so.
You
know
I
understand
the
need
for
jobs
in
our
communities
and
the
opportunities
for
job
creation,
particularly
in
our
rural
communities,
would
be
fantastic.
But
for
me
this
comes
down
to
location,
location
and
I'm.
O
Fundamentally,
as
my
fellow
councilors
here
tonight
also
support
our
local
rural
communities,
our
little
hamlets
as
councilor
Davis
likes
to
refer
to
them
and
and
I
guess
what
what
I
want
to
see
is
is
for
them
to
thrive,
to
strive,
but
also
to
survive
and-
and
we
want
to
see
more
people
living
in
our
rural
townships,
not
being
turned
away.
O
It's
been
mentioned
that
the
devonish
community
is
going
from
strength
to
strength,
particularly
with
the
silo
art
and
that's
a
testament
to
the
community
and
to
the
many
people
in
the
community
who
are
working
tirelessly
to
see
that
Town
grow,
so
I
do
have
concerns
around
the
possible
health
risks
that
this
site
would
propose
to
our
to
that
Community,
particularly
around
the
dust
as
Council
going
around
the
outlined
concerns
to
the
increase
in
traffic
and
trucks
that
would
be
going
through
the
township,
but
also
along
those
busy
roads
and
concerns
that
we'll
have
on
the
neighboring
properties
and
as
councilor
mayor
Hearn
mentioned
dust
going
up
on
homes
and
going
into
into
tanks
and
people
drinking
and
consuming
that
or
their
animals.
O
These
are
just.
There
are
a
number
of
concerns
that
this
this
proposal
has
for
me,
so
I
don't
support
it
tonight.
I
do
hope
that
the
applicant
can
consider
alternative
options
and
come
back
to
council
for
discussion,
but
at
this
point
in
time,
I
think
Community.
The
definition
community
in
our
community
have
come
here
tonight
to
demonstrate
their
real
passionate
concerns
around
this,
and
they
have
mindful
support.
B
Thank
you,
councilor
I
also
would
like
to
speak
against
it.
I
think
Sam,
Sam,
mine
or
any
development
in
evidence
would
be
great,
but
not
in
the
town
like
take
it
a
couple
of
K's
out
and
I
think
everyone
would
agree,
it'd
be
a
fantastic
thing,
but,
unfortunately,
being
so
close
to
the
CBD.
It's
probably
it's
most
definitely
is
not
the
right
place
and
I
think
everything's
been
said
already
so
being
the
last
speaker,
I
can't
say
much
more,
but
I
definitely
don't
support
the
recommendation.
B
Council
Davis.
Do
you
like
write
a
reply.
I
Through
the
chair,
I'll
move
this
tonight
and
I
certainly
wasn't
sitting
on
the
fence.
I
I,
look,
it's
all
been
said
and
I
think
there's
too
many
unanswered
questions
and
I.
Look
at
these
people
they're
the
new
people
have
moved
into
into
devonish
and
I.
Think
the
less
summed
it
up
very
well
I,
look
around
the
room.
There's
a
lot
of
people
have
been
there
for
years,
they're
in
diminished
and
I.
Think
I
think
it
was.
You
said
pretty
earlier
on,
would
with
any
of
us
like
a
sand
mine
next
to
our
house.
Obviously
he
answers
is,
is
no
someone's
got
to
go
somewhere,
we
need
them
somewhere.
I
We've
got
to
have
them
and
that's
why
I
asked
the
question.
Would?
Is
it
possible
we
could
go
out
of
town
somewhere,
obviously
there's
more
sand
out
there
can.
Then.
Maybe
the
applicant
may
need
to
look
at
another
site
and
really
bacter
was
whether
I
too
look
at
the
welfare
of
have
diminished
definition,
struggle
for
a
long
time
and
decided
all
out
support
all
those
little
hamlets
along
the
along
the
railway
line
back
to
life.
I
Again,
people
think
that
just
painting
an
ad
on
The
Silo
would
would
win
thousands
of
people
I
challenged.
One
thing
I
reckon
you're,
probably
getting
just
as
much
traffic
up
up
that
demonish
road
to
the
silos
is
what
what's
going
on
the
Tacoma
Road
and
that's
something
that
Council
will
probably
have
to
look
at
looking
at
those
alternative
routes
that
all
those
carabiners
and
people
are
taking
from
this
to
give
them
back
up
to
Saint
James.
I
So
that's
another
another
thing
we
have
to
work
through
in
the
future,
but
I
I
tonight
will
be
voting
against
it.
Thank
you.
A
B
Sorry,
don't
don't
go
yet.
We
need
to
clarify
why
we've
refused
it.
So
the
recommendation
for
the
referral
refusal
will
read
that
Council,
having
caused
notice
of
the
planning
application
number
p005-20
to
be
given
under
Section
52
of
the
planning
environment
Act
of
1987
and
having
given
consider
and
having
considered
all
the
matters
required
under
Section
60
of
the
planning
environment.
B
Act
of
1987
decides
to
refuse
to
Grant
the
permit
under
the
provisions
of
the
vanilla
planning,
experiment,
respect
to
the
land
known
and
described
as
lot
two
plan
of
subdivision
two:
zero:
seven:
two:
four:
three
l,
two
two
three
Cooper
Road
Devon
for
the
use
and
development
of
the
land
for
extractive
industry
sand
Quarry,
in
accordance
with
the
endorsed
plan,
with
the
application
dated
the
15th
of
June
2022
and
the
following
grounds,
The
Proposal
will
have
an
unreasonable
amenity
impact
to
adjoining
properties
with
regard
to
noise
and
dust
emissions
and
traffic
impact
on
the
road
network
network.
B
A
S
Thank
you,
chair
I
present,
a
planning
application
for
a
22
lot
subdivision
and
the
removal
native
engine
vegetation
at
51
hairs,
Lane
benalla,
subject
site
is
on
the
north
side
of
hairs.
Lane
310
meters,
west
of
the
intersection
with
Oliver's
Road
the
site
is
the
site,
is
rectangular
and
shape
containing
a
frontage
to
hairstyle
of
149
meters
and
the
overall
site
area
of
1.5
hectares.
S
The
proposal
has
been
advertised
and
one
objection
has
been
received.
The
objector
asks
for
a
collarbone
fence
along
the
west
boundary
of
the
site
for
privacy,
and
the
applicant
has
agreed
to
this
request.
All
referral
authorities
advice
of
no
objection
to
the
proposal
subject
to
conditions
and
the
proposal
is
considered
to
comply
with
the
requirements.
To
course,
56
of
the
banana
plantings
came
with
regards
to
subdivision
layout.
L
Yes,
thank
you
through
the
chair,
Joel,
just
to
clarify
I.
Think
I've
already
asked
the
question
at
previously,
but
this
clearly
specifies
that
has
Lane
will
be.
This
cannot
go
ahead
and
tell
Hayes.
Lane
has
been
sealed.
L
L
E
Oh,
thank
you
Mr,
chair
and
Joel.
This
application
is
for
22
Lots.
Is
there
a
timeline
that
we're
in
desperate
need
of
housing?
We
all
know
that
in
benalla.
So
is
there
a
timeline
for
this
development
to
start
and
finish
and
and
have
those
22
Lots
ready
to
be
purchased,
and
hopefully,
houses
built.
S
Based
on
the
process,
the
planning
permit,
you
have
two
years
to
start
a
subdivision
and
then
four
years
to
complete
it.
If
you
have
two
years,
no,
you
have
two
years
to
have
the
plan
certified
and
then
from
certification.
You
have
five
years
to
complete
the
works
for
the
subdivision,
so
that
leaves
you
about
seven
years.
You
can
apply
for
extensions
of
time
on
that.
You
generally
give
a
couple
of
extensions
a
time
at
a
time,
so
it
can
extend
out
to
some
time.
B
E
S
K
O
O
Just
a
quick
one,
and
it's
really
silly
question,
but
with
regards
to
hair's
Lane
and
given
that
this
development's
passed
tonight
with
the
neighboring
development
well
underway.
At
what
point
do
we
have
to
look
at
doing
good
parting
and
street
fighting
a
long
hairs
Lane
to
Oliver's
road?
Is
that
something
we
have
to
consider
now,
or
is
that
more
one
that
hasline
eventually
becomes
sealed
overview?
His.
B
H
Joe
thanks
for
the
presentation
in
terms
of
the
Green
Space
parks
and
all
that
you
know,
we
know
that
this
is
quite
isolated
from
that
the
facilities
and
amnities
that
we
have
already
in
the
town.
Are
you
in
a
position
to
give
an
answer
about?
What's
the
plan
for
that
in
the
future
and
how
we're
gonna
look
at
that,
because
this
is
only
just
a
five
percent
deposit
on
it:
we're
going
to
be
a
park
or
something
that
we
can
plan
in
the
future
for
this
area.
S
It's
it's
difficult
to
say,
because
we
don't
have
a
strategy
on
public
open
space,
so
so
we
have
no
direction
in
that
space
to
say:
we've
got
it.
We're
we're
open
space
goes
so
at
the
moment
with
this
lot,
where
we're
taking
in
a
five
percent
public
open
space
contribution,
which
goes
into
a
public
open
space
fund,
which
is
there
for
maintenance
and
the
creation
of
new
parks
in
the
future.
I
Thank
you,
you're.
The
chair,
Joel
I,
just
picked
a
couple
Out
on
Just
for
randomly
number
16
and
number
17.
I
presume
we're
the
where
the
responsible
body
are
we
responsible
person,
yes
being
Devil's
Advocate.
Now,
how
are
we
going
to
control
those
we're
going
to
have
people
on
site?
Are
we
just
going
to
well?
We
expect
those
particular
the
applicants
have
an
engineer
on
site.
That's
prepared
to
sign
off
on
on
some
of
those
provisions.
S
S
And
then,
after
that,
we
inspect
the
site
in
to
make
sure
it's
in
accordance
with
the
plans
and
the
applicant
has
to
provide
us
as
constructed
plans
showing
that
that's
been
filled
to
that
high.
I
Joel
a
question
I
asked
is
with
all
these
Provisions
a
lot
of
these
provisions.
Do
we
rely
rely
on
rely
on
someone
on
complaint
handling,
someone
complaining
about
it
or
or
do
our
staff
actively
go
out
on
these
subdivisions
on
a
regular
basis
and
check
that
they're
actually
working
within
the
conditions.
S
The
with
regards
to
amenity
to
adjoining
properties-
that's
generally
compliant
based.
So
if
we,
if
we
get
someone
from
next
door,
saying
yes,
there's
dust
being
emitted
from
the
proposed
works,
we
will
go
out
there
and
then
we
will
have
to
contact
the
applicant
to
say:
hey.
S
You
needed
a
water
truck
out
there
with
with
regards
to
the
rest
of
the
conditions
with
regards
to
have
they
constructed
it
in
accordance
with
the
plans
or
not
that
is
based
on
they
provided
design
to
us,
and
then
that
design
is
checked
off
by
our
Engineers
to
make
sure
that
it's
in
accordance
with
the
infrastructure
design
manual.
S
They
then
construct
The
Works
in
accordance
with
that
plan,
and
then
they
have
to
provide
us
with
those
constructed
with
an
edge
constructed
designed
to
show
us
that
it
has
been
constructed
in
accordance
with
the
endorse
planes
and
that's
checked
off
by
us.
A
N
Answering
the
question
as
well:
yes,
we
do
have
surveillance
off
for
the
plans
so
at
there
are
whole
points
in
the
subdivision
so
for
they,
if
they're
doing
the
pavement,
you'll
look
at
the
pavement.
If
that
passes,
we
wait
for
the
Laboratory
test
to
come
in
once
the
lab
tests
have
been
provided,
then
we'll
say:
okay
go
ahead.
Do
your
road
pavement
cabin
channel
is
inspected,
the
pits
and
pipes
are
inspected
as
well
as
whole
points.
B
I
think
you
now
I've
received
the
vanilla,
Futures
sustainability
group
newsletter
a
while
ago,
and
you
sort
of
touched
on
a
couple
of
things
and
they've
asked
some
questions
here
and
I
think
it's
probably
pertinent
that
we
try
to
answer
them
tonight.
So
I'll
just
Briefly
summarize
a
couple
of
their
questions.
One
is
what
happens
to
the
open
space
Levy?
Is
it
quarantined
or
does
it
go
into
General
Revenue.
B
So
it
is
quarantined.
Thank
you.
Another
question
was
the
council
should
insist
on
a
minimum
of
10
of
the
subdivision
area
to
be
set
aside
for
open
space.
Is
that
something
that
we
have
authority
to
do?
No.
B
Okay,
another
excuse
me
another.
One
of
the
questions
was
they're
critical
of
the
smaller
lot
sizes
and
larger
buildings
in
subdivisions.
Is
that
something
we
have
control
over
the.
B
Thank
you
that
sort
of
answers
a
couple
of
their
questions,
but
I'm
sure
they've
got
plenty
more.
Are
there
any
other
questions
of
Joel?
If
not,
the
recommendation
is
on
page
34.
once
again
in
many
parts,
I'd
take
it
as
being
read
and
passed
moved
by
councilor
King
seconded
by
Council.
First
I'd
speak
councilor
King.
Thank.
O
Only
to
say
this
is
a
another
exciting
opportunity.
O
Happening
over
this
side
of
town
and
again
as
I've
said
before,
I'll
say
it
again.
It's
great
to
see
that
we
have
developers
confident
in
setting
up
shop
here
in
benalla
and
and
looking
to
develop
and
investing
in
our
community,
so
I
think
it's
fantastic
and
happy
to
support.
L
No
I
think
it's
been
said.
Thank
you.
B
B
N
Thank
you,
Mr
chair
three
Mr
chair
presenter,
the
finance
and
planning
committee,
the
monthly
planning,
building
and
planning
activity
report.
There
were
eight
planning
permits
and
two
Vic
smart
permits
decided
under
delegation.
One
permit
was
lapsed
and
one
was
withdrawn.
There
was
one
notice
of
decision
issued
and
two
matters
are
still
before
the
Victorian
civil
and
administrative
tribunal.
The
first
one
is
awaiting
a
decision
and
the
second
one
is
awaiting
the
formal
hearing
to
take
place.
There
were
15
building
permits
approved
within
the
month
and
as
councilor
Brian
said
that
we
require
subdivisions.
N
The
council
passed
the
extension
of
Senator
Drive
not
so
long
ago.
If
you
look
at
item
number
14
on
page
53,
that's
the
first
house
that
is
under
construction.
Now
that
has
started
Construction
in
Kumar
knowledge,
they've
done
the
frame
for
the
hair.
So
that's
good
news
for
vanilla
as
well
so
and
the
total
cost
of
development
is
still
2.
approximately
2.5
million
dollars.
The
recommendation
is
on
page
56
or
Council.
H
The
exciting
report,
a
lot
of
activity
I
just
wanted
to
ask
a
question
from
the
fifth
page:
53
the
table,
the
value
of
the
buildings.
How
do
you
arrive
at
the
number
is
that
from
the
building
application,
so
I'm
interested
to
know?
How
does
that
number
yeah?
It's
right,
Mr.
N
Chair,
the
private
building
surveys
provide
the
cost
in
the
building
applications.
Also,
the
builders
do
so.
We
take
those
figures
and
put
it
in
our
spreadsheet
or
reporting,
and
that
forms
part
of
reporting
to
the
Victorian
building
authority,
as
well
as
to
the
building
industry
too.
So
we
provide
reports
to
all
parts.
B
B
O
I
Congratulate
the
staff
on
there
on
what's
going
on,
because
we've
got
very,
very
limited
staff
in
this
department.
I,
look
on
page
54
of
the
building
permits,
history
issued
and
I.
Look
I,
look
at
what's
been
issued
by
Council
and
what's
been
issued
by
by
the
private,
and
you
know
those
speakers
used
to
be
very
few
by
counts
in
the
lot
quite
private,
and
it's
just
over
the
last
few
years
it's
turned
around
greatly
and
I.
I
Just
I
just
want
to
hear
our
stuff
I've
got
time
to
to
process
them
all
so
well
done.
B
A
B
2022
2023
quick
response
grants
program
and
the
major
events
funding
now
councilor
generator.
You
have
a
conflict
I.
H
B
A
B
U
Thank
you
very
much.
It's
a
nice
report
is
for
the
2022-2023,
quick
response,
grants
and
major
event
funding
programs.
The
quick
response
grants
are
our
500
grants
that
we
hand
out
each
monster
or
as
I
as
they
come
in
and
the
major
event
funding
program
provides
up
to
two
thousand
dollars
to
events
that
will
be
staged
within
benella
rural
City.
Councilors
may
recall,
we
changed
at
the
beginning.
I
actually
might
have
been
the
end
of
2022.
U
The
way
that
we
administer
these
the
major
event
funding
grants
to
make
them
open
all
year
round
to
try
and
encourage
a
broader
range
of
applicants
as
well.
So
this
is
the
first
group
of
applications
that
we've
received
and
I
think
that
the
councils
probably
recognize
many
of
the
applicants
that
we've
had
within
that
program
as
people
who
have
applied
through
previous
rounds
as
well
I'll
run
through
the
quick
response,
Grant
applications
first
and
then
begin
to
go
through
some
of
the
major
event
funding
grants.
U
The
benella
swimming
club
have
applied
for
500
that
would
go
towards
equipments
like
flippers.
Kick
boards
swim,
Lane,
signage
Etc.
It's
proposed
that
they
receive
500.
U
continue
to
build
on.
What's
really
quite
positive,
Community
momentum
out
there
with
the
Easter
show
and
actually
really
quite
well
attended
Community
meetings
as
well
they're
seeking
500
dollars
to
develop
a
community
website
to
keep
everybody
in
the
loop
about
what's
happening
out
at
mollyola
free,
the
vanilla,
sustainable
Futures
group
have
put
in
an
application
for
the
swan
pool,
environmental
Film
Festival
of
2023.
U
The
festival
is
generally
timed
around
World
environment
day
on
the
5th
of
June
each
year,
Rotary
International,
I'm,
sorry,
they've
applied
for
500
and
we're
proposing
500,
so
I'll
just
say:
that's
for
everybody.
U
I
won't
read
that
each
time
rotary
have
applied
or
support
towards
facilitating
a
training
day
for
the
63
rotary
clubs
across
District
9790,
which
is
always
quite
a
well
attended
event,
which
brings
many
people
into
the
benella
community
and
the
banana
Garden
Club
turned
70
on
the
10th
of
October
2023,
which
is
there's
a
quite
a
few
Milestones
within
these
applications,
which
I
think
is
a
real
credit
to
the
community,
as
well
as
some
of
the
longevity
for
some
of
our
events
and
organizations.
So
they're.
U
Looking
to
celebrate
with
a
guest
speaker
in
a
high
tea
event,
I'll
begin
to
run
through
the
major
event
funding
applications
we've
received,
barring
the
one.
So
we
have
an
application
from
the
Austin
7
club
for
historic
Winton.
So
it's
one
of
Australia's,
longest
running
historic
race
meets
it's
actually
the
46th
time
that
this
particular
event
will
have
occurred,
which
is
another
impressive
milestone.
U
We
also
have
an
application
in
for
Molly
Easter
Molly,
Easter,
Molly,
Eula,
Easter
Sports,
and
it's
the
120th
time
that
this
particular
event
will
have
taken
place,
and
it's
really
positive
I
think
to
see
that
come
back
after
a
couple
years
off
due
to
covert
the
vanilla,
Racing
Club
have
requested
funding
to
assist
in
the
delivery
of
a
kid
Zone
activities
for
the
Gold
Cup
Spring
Carnival,
the
Lions
Club
of
vanilla
are
seeking
two
thousand
dollars
towards
the
antique
and
collectibles
Fair.
U
They
had
700
people
attend
that
last
year.
So
that's
another
well-supported
Community
event
and
the
last
one
we
have
is
from
the
gliding
Club
of
Victoria
for
the
benella
air
show
for
1400
to
go
towards
that
particular
event.
U
I
just
highlight
with
this
one
that
it
was
a
late
application,
so
they're
actually
requesting
funding
retrospectively.
So,
generally
speaking,
within
our
guidelines,
we
don't
do
that.
But
after
some
conversations
with
the
events
coordinator
and
the
changes
within
the
program,
it
was
deemed
to
be
a
worthwhile
thing
to
to
for
Council
to
contribute
towards
this
one.
So
we'd
be
seeking
councilor
approval
to
I
guess
act
outside
what
we
would
generally
do
with
our
guidelines
for
events
funding
for
that
one,
the
recommendation
or,
if
I
miss
one.
C
L
A
quick
one
with
those
quick
response,
big
ones,
yep,
is
one
two
three
four
five
is
that
all
that
we
said
like
did.
Was
everybody
successful
sorry.
U
Yes,
that
was
that
was
everything
that
we've
received,
so
we
generally
try
and
find
through
the
quick
response
program
as
much
as
we
possibly
can
it's
pretty
rare
that
we
turned
something
away:
instances
where
we
might
not
find
something.
Is
it
if
it's
obviously
outside
the
guidelines
and
and
if
it
is,
we
would
have
a
conversation
with
them
and
say:
is
there
something
we
can
do
to
get
you
inside
the
guidelines
or
or
it
might
be,
suggesting
another
Avenue
or
funding,
perhaps
I'm
just
checking
it
throughout.
L
The
under
the
new
regime,
we
may
not
see
ones,
you
knock
back.
Yes,.
U
Yep,
no
look,
I
would
say
usually
I
would
bring
them
forward
anyway
or
let
Council
know
if
we're
decided
to
put
something
away,
I
think
under
the
new
regime,
we're
actually
tracking
really
well
in
terms
of
the
numbers
of
applications
for
quick
response
grants,
so
we're
probably
on
about
par
with
what
we
would
do
for
for
an
entire
Financial
year.
At
this
point,
with
a
with
a
couple
of
months
to
go.
O
When
applicants
submit
or
general
equestrian
application,
when
applicants
submit
their
funding,
requests
or
proposals
do
do
they
have
to
do
or
are
they
required
to
provide
advice
or
information
around
any
state
or
federal
funding
that
they
may
have
received
prior
to
that
application
in
a
12-month
window
or
something
and
if
they
do,
does
that
sort
of
then
get
go
through
the
criteria
process
of
this
yep.
U
So
what
we
would
what
we
have
within
our
application
form
is
we
ask
about
yeah
any
previous
funding
that
you've
specifically
received
from
Council
but
within
the
budget?
Also,
if,
if
we're
asking
about
an
event,
you
know
if
there's
other
contributing
funds
going
towards
it,
so
it
might
be
sponsorship
or
another
Grant
or
or
any
other
kind
of
funding
like
that
yeah.
So
we
do
ask
that
question.
O
Certainly,
I
guess
this
might
be
something
we
can
take
take
on
notice
for
future,
but
I
just
wonder
whether
there's
something
like
that
could
be
factored
into
the
process
tonight
that
we're
sort
of
voting
on,
because
I
just
I'm
conscious.
If
an
organization's
received
100
Grand
from
the
state
government
or
federal
government
or
another
body,
you
know,
would
that
have
right,
not
ramifications.
Would
that
have
a
okay
looking
at
these
differently
sort
of
things,
so
just
wondering
nothing.
We
can
discuss
yep.
U
Look,
we
can
work
that
into
how
we
assess
things.
I
think
we
consider
it
anyway.
U
B
Are
there
any
other
questions
of?
If
not
the
recommendation,
the
amended
recommendation
will
delete
the
vanilla,
migrant
Camp
Association
from
number
two
and
I
think
we
probably
need
to
change
number
three
to
the
gliding
Club
rather
than
the
gliding
Riding
Club.
So
with
that,
with
those
couple
of
changes
with
someone
like
to
move
councilor
King
counselor
Hearn
I
could
speak
councilor.
O
King,
thank
you,
Mr,
chair
only
to
endorse
and
support
all
the
applications
that
are
in
front
of
us
tonight,
they're
all
fantastic
causes
and
events
that
are
being
proposed
and
yeah
very
much
look
forward
to
hearing
about
the
success
from
all
of
them
and
well
done
to
time
and
his
team
in
pulling
them
together.
B
H
And
the
team
and
I
know
from
26th
of
March
was
the
closing
date
for
applications
and
today
is
5th
of
April
and
how
quickly
they
do
is
brought
to
the
council,
and
especially
looking
at
the
process
and
extending
the
deadline
to
allow
a
lot
of
community
organizations
to
get
on
board
with
our
application
process
and
the
community
Grant
process
understanding
how
the
community
organizations
work,
especially
giving
Saturday
and
Sunday,
because
it's
all
driven
by
a
lot
of
volunteers,
a
lot
of
these
organizations
I
think
the
council
was
really
on
the
ball
with
that
and
I
would
like
to
appreciate
that
the
team
and
that
thinking
going
into
it
I
got
a
lot
of
feedback
from
the
community
in
that
regard
as
well,
and
also
look
at
the
U.S
calendar
for
the
Belarus
city
council
for
next
year.
H
Looking
at
these
grants
and
what
we
are
supporting,
it's
pretty
full
and
how
supportive
our
events
coordinator
Sharon
gear,
when
we,
when
any
Community
organization
come
to
the
council.
This
astonishing
is
really
good.
So
it's
very
positive
I'd
like
to
support
this
and
I
wanted
to
say
and
speak.
Those
few
words.
Thank
you.
I
B
U
You,
the
final
major
event:
funding
application
before
council
tonight
is
from
the
benella
migrant
Association
they're,
requesting
two
thousand
dollars
to
go
towards
the
South
Asian
New
Year
celebration.
U
E
So
Tom
thanks,
let's
create
all
these
applications
that
are
coming
through,
and
it's
really
great
that
we're
able
to
support
them,
but
on
this
particular
one
and
just
going
back
to
what
you
mentioned
before
I
understand
that
this
benalla
migrant
Association
has
actually
received
a
grant
of
fifty
thousand
dollars
from
the
state
government
for
this.
E
For
that
this
particular
event
that
they're
planning
in
a
couple
of
weeks,
which
is
great
they're,
lucky
it's
fabulous
but
I'm
just
wondering
what
will
be
the
benefit
to
the
event
if
Council
are
to
provide
an
additional
two
thousand
dollars
to
top
up
to
fifty
two
thousand
dollars
of
the
rate
pays
money.
Another
two
thousand
I'm
just
wondering
if
you
could
be
a
little
bit
of
an
overview
of
that.
Thank
you.
Cool.
U
I
think
it
was
forty
thousand
from
the
multi,
the
Victorian
Multicultural
Association,
when,
when
we
receive
applications
for
major
event,
funding
I
think
it's
reasonably
well
acknowledged
within
Council
that
two
thousand
dollars
isn't
going
to
get
many
events
too
far,
and
so
the
expectation
would
be
that,
if
you're
a
major
event,
you
are
going
to
have
alternate
sources
of
funding.
U
So
it's
from
our
perspective
when
we
go
through
our
guidelines
and
we're
assessing
things,
it's
actually
assuring
to
find
that
any
kind
of
major
event
that's
presented
to
council
has
other
avenues
to
help
fund
it
in
terms
of
why
we
would
fund
it
it's
it's
really
comfortably
with
everything.
That's
in
our
council
plan,
in
terms
of
being
an
inclusive
and
welcoming
Community,
it's
sat
and
scored
really
quite
well
within
our
assessment
process
as
well,
and
so
I
think
that,
from
a
council
perspective,
it's
something
we
provided
I.
U
Think
a
letter
of
support
for
the
event
as
well.
So
I
think
that
yeah
for
from
an
assessment
and
recommendation
point
of
view,
it
was
certainly
something
that
ticked
all
of
the
boxes
and
there
was
no
reason
why
Council
wouldn't
support
it
from
yeah.
An
application
point
of
view.
B
O
Chair
Tom,
just
a
quick
one,
I
know
it's
been
mentioned
in
the
enzyme,
a
couple
of
times
around
the
organ
around
the
the
association
and
was
actually
quoted
being
as
an
organization
and
I
just
wanted
to
confirm.
Is
it
an
organization
or
a
not-for-profit
or
a
charity?
Just
I
understand
now:
policies
and
procedures,
but
yeah
there
is
a
exemption
cause
for
organizations
and
I
just
would
hope
for
the
anyone
to
miss
out.
That's
all
yep.
U
So
they're
listed
as
an
other
Incorporated
identity
and
that
sits
comfortably
within
what
we
have
for
our
guidelines,
so
when
people
submit
they
have
to
put
in
their
incorporation
numbers
Etc
to
and
submit
copies
of
all
of
their
certificates.
So
to
prove
you
know
that
they're
not
for
profit,
Etc.
A
I
Tom,
is
there
any
accountability
once
we
give
the
money
it's,
how
do
we?
How
is
it
drawn
down
and
process
when
we
give
them
to
two
thousand
dollars,
but
but
how
do
we
know
that
it's
a
value
for
money
for
the
right
buyers.
U
Well,
I
guess:
there's
a
couple
of
different
questions
within
that,
so
we
have
a
reasonably
thorough
acquittal
process
that
we
managed
through
smarty
grants.
So
whenever
anyone
receives
funding
from
Council
as
part
of
that
agreement,
we
let
them
know
that
they
need
to
keep
track
of
all
of
their
receipts
and
provide
evidence
that
they've
delivered
the
things
that
they
were
funded
to
do
and
that's
part
of
the
acquittal
process
that
they
need
to
submit
within
12
months
of
the
event
or
before
the
next
funding
period
begins.
U
Just
depending
on
you
know
when,
when
the
event
actually
happens,
value
for
money
is
a
little
bit
subjective,
but
you
know
I,
guess
it's
around,
you
know.
Was
it
a
successful
event
and
other
kind
of
measurables
that
you
might
draw
upon.
B
Are
there
any
other
questions?
If
not,
then
recommendation
is
that
two
thousand
dollars
from
the
2022-2023
major
event
funding
program
be
allocated
to
the
vanilla,
migrant
Association.
P
O
It's
a
great
opportunity
to
bring
people
from
all
over
our
community
together
and
I,
wish
it
well
and
and
I'm
glad
yeah
that
Tom
was
able
to
field
that
question
tonight
for
me.
Thank
you.
Anyone.